Pope Francis Middle East Trip; Religious Freedom

>>> COMING UP -- POPE FRANCIS IN >>> COMING UP -- POPE FRANCIS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

>>> COMING UP -- POPE FRANCIS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

KIM LAWTON TALKS TO RELIGIOUS THE MIDDLE EAST.

KIM LAWTON TALKS TO RELIGIOUS LEADERS ABOUT THEIR HOPES FOR KIM LAWTON TALKS TO RELIGIOUS LEADERS ABOUT THEIR HOPES FOR HIS TRIP.

LEADERS ABOUT THEIR HOPES FOR HIS TRIP.

>> HE IS ENCOURAGING ALL THOSE HIS TRIP.

>> HE IS ENCOURAGING ALL THOSE SUFFERING IN THIS REGION, THAT >> HE IS ENCOURAGING ALL THOSE SUFFERING IN THIS REGION, THAT YES, THE HOPE IS THERE AND PEACE SUFFERING IN THIS REGION, THAT YES, THE HOPE IS THERE AND PEACE IS POSSIBLE.

YES, THE HOPE IS THERE AND PEACE IS POSSIBLE.

>>> ALSO, A LUCKY SEVERSON IS POSSIBLE.

>>> ALSO, A LUCKY SEVERSON REPORT ON A NEW LAW IN >>> ALSO, A LUCKY SEVERSON REPORT ON A NEW LAW IN MISSISSIPPI.

REPORT ON A NEW LAW IN MISSISSIPPI.

ITS BACKERS SAY THEY WANT TO MISSISSIPPI.

ITS BACKERS SAY THEY WANT TO AND GROUP RETIREMENT PRODUCTS.

ITS BACKERS SAY THEY WANT TO AND GROUP RETIREMENT PRODUCTS.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOUR RETIREMENT AND GROUP RETIREMENT PRODUCTS.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY.

>>> WELCOME.

COMPANY.

>>> WELCOME.

I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

>>> WELCOME.

I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

THIS IS THE WEEKEND OF POPE IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

THIS IS THE WEEKEND OF POPE FRANCIS'S HIGHLY-ANTICIPATED THIS IS THE WEEKEND OF POPE FRANCIS'S HIGHLY-ANTICIPATED VISIT TO THE MIDDLE EAST, WHERE FRANCIS'S HIGHLY-ANTICIPATED VISIT TO THE MIDDLE EAST, WHERE HE IS SPENDING TIME IN JORDAN, VISIT TO THE MIDDLE EAST, WHERE HE IS SPENDING TIME IN JORDAN, ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIAN WEST HE IS SPENDING TIME IN JORDAN, ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIAN WEST BANK.

ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIAN WEST BANK.

THE POPE HAS SAID THIS THREE-DAY BANK.

THE POPE HAS SAID THIS THREE-DAY TRIP IS "STRICTLY RELIGIOUS," THE POPE HAS SAID THIS THREE-DAY TRIP IS "STRICTLY RELIGIOUS," BUT POLITICAL SENSITIVITIES TRIP IS "STRICTLY RELIGIOUS," BUT POLITICAL SENSITIVITIES ABOUND AS FRANCIS TRIES TO BUT POLITICAL SENSITIVITIES ABOUND AS FRANCIS TRIES TO NAVIGATE BETWEEN PALESTINIAN AND ABOUND AS FRANCIS TRIES TO NAVIGATE BETWEEN PALESTINIAN AND ISRAELI CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY IN NAVIGATE BETWEEN PALESTINIAN AND ISRAELI CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY IN THE WAKE OF FAILED PEACE TALKS.

ISRAELI CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY IN THE WAKE OF FAILED PEACE TALKS.

WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THE POPE'S THE WAKE OF FAILED PEACE TALKS.

WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THE POPE'S TRIP IN A FEW MOMENTS.

WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THE POPE'S TRIP IN A FEW MOMENTS.

>>> A U.N. PANEL HAS CRITICIZED TRIP IN A FEW MOMENTS.

>>> A U.N. PANEL HAS CRITICIZED THE VATICAN FOR ITS FAILURE TO >>> A U.N. PANEL HAS CRITICIZED THE VATICAN FOR ITS FAILURE TO RESPOND ADEQUATELY TO THE CLERGY THE VATICAN FOR ITS FAILURE TO RESPOND ADEQUATELY TO THE CLERGY SEX ABUSE CRISIS.

RESPOND ADEQUATELY TO THE CLERGY SEX ABUSE CRISIS.

THE REPORT FROM THE UNITED SEX ABUSE CRISIS.

THE REPORT FROM THE UNITED NATIONS COMMITTEE AGAINST THE REPORT FROM THE UNITED NATIONS COMMITTEE AGAINST TORTURE CATALOGUES A NUMBER OF NATIONS COMMITTEE AGAINST TORTURE CATALOGUES A NUMBER OF MISSTEPS, SUCH AS NOT REQUIRING TORTURE CATALOGUES A NUMBER OF MISSTEPS, SUCH AS NOT REQUIRING THAT ABUSE BE REPORTED TO THE MISSTEPS, SUCH AS NOT REQUIRING THAT ABUSE BE REPORTED TO THE POLICE, AND NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH THAT ABUSE BE REPORTED TO THE POLICE, AND NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH COMPENSATION TO VICTIMS.

POLICE, AND NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH COMPENSATION TO VICTIMS.

HOWEVER, THE PANEL ALSO COMPENSATION TO VICTIMS.

HOWEVER, THE PANEL ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THE VATICAN'S HOWEVER, THE PANEL ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THE VATICAN'S RECENT INITIATIVES TO COMBAT SEX ACKNOWLEDGED THE VATICAN'S RECENT INITIATIVES TO COMBAT SEX ABUSE, SUCH AS THE CREATION OF A RECENT INITIATIVES TO COMBAT SEX ABUSE, SUCH AS THE CREATION OF A PAPAL COMMISSION ON PROTECTING ABUSE, SUCH AS THE CREATION OF A PAPAL COMMISSION ON PROTECTING CHILDREN.

PAPAL COMMISSION ON PROTECTING CHILDREN.

>>> PRAYERS AND PROTESTS CHILDREN.

>>> PRAYERS AND PROTESTS CONTINUED ON BEHALF OF THE >>> PRAYERS AND PROTESTS CONTINUED ON BEHALF OF THE NEARLY 300 NIGERIAN GIRLS CONTINUED ON BEHALF OF THE NEARLY 300 NIGERIAN GIRLS KIDNAPPED LAST MONTH BY THE BOKO NEARLY 300 NIGERIAN GIRLS KIDNAPPED LAST MONTH BY THE BOKO HARAM TERRORIST GROUP.

KIDNAPPED LAST MONTH BY THE BOKO HARAM TERRORIST GROUP.

FRUSTRATION HAS MOUNTED OVER THE HARAM TERRORIST GROUP.

FRUSTRATION HAS MOUNTED OVER THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE, FRUSTRATION HAS MOUNTED OVER THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE, WHICH PROTESTERS SAY HAS BEEN NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE, WHICH PROTESTERS SAY HAS BEEN TOO LITTLE AND TOO LATE.

WHICH PROTESTERS SAY HAS BEEN TOO LITTLE AND TOO LATE.

ON CAPITOL HILL, A 15-YEAR-OLD TOO LITTLE AND TOO LATE.

ON CAPITOL HILL, A 15-YEAR-OLD SURVIVOR OF A SEPARATE BOKO ON CAPITOL HILL, A 15-YEAR-OLD SURVIVOR OF A SEPARATE BOKO HARAM ATTACK TESTIFIED ABOUT HOW SURVIVOR OF A SEPARATE BOKO HARAM ATTACK TESTIFIED ABOUT HOW THE ISLAMISTS KILLED HER FATHER HARAM ATTACK TESTIFIED ABOUT HOW THE ISLAMISTS KILLED HER FATHER FOR REFUSING TO DENY HIS THE ISLAMISTS KILLED HER FATHER FOR REFUSING TO DENY HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH.

FOR REFUSING TO DENY HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH.

>>> INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE ALSO CHRISTIAN FAITH.

>>> INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE ALSO CONTINUES TO GROW IN THE CASE OF >>> INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE ALSO CONTINUES TO GROW IN THE CASE OF A PREGNANT WOMAN IN SUDAN WHO CONTINUES TO GROW IN THE CASE OF A PREGNANT WOMAN IN SUDAN WHO FACES EXECUTION FOR REFUSING TO A PREGNANT WOMAN IN SUDAN WHO FACES EXECUTION FOR REFUSING TO RENOUNCE HER CHRISTIAN FAITH.

FACES EXECUTION FOR REFUSING TO RENOUNCE HER CHRISTIAN FAITH.

LAST WEEK A SUDANESE COURT RENOUNCE HER CHRISTIAN FAITH.

LAST WEEK A SUDANESE COURT CONVICTED MERIAM IBRAHIM OF LAST WEEK A SUDANESE COURT CONVICTED MERIAM IBRAHIM OF APOSTASY AND RULED THAT HER CONVICTED MERIAM IBRAHIM OF APOSTASY AND RULED THAT HER MARRIAGE TO A CHRISTIAN MAN WAS APOSTASY AND RULED THAT HER MARRIAGE TO A CHRISTIAN MAN WAS INVALID UNDER ISLAMIC LAW.

MARRIAGE TO A CHRISTIAN MAN WAS INVALID UNDER ISLAMIC LAW.

HER HUSBAND SAYS HE FEARS FOR INVALID UNDER ISLAMIC LAW.

HER HUSBAND SAYS HE FEARS FOR -- HER HUSBAND SAYS HE'S DEEPLY HER HUSBAND SAYS HE FEARS FOR -- HER HUSBAND SAYS HE'S DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT HIS WIFE AND -- HER HUSBAND SAYS HE'S DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT HIS WIFE AND UNBORN SON.

CONCERNED ABOUT HIS WIFE AND UNBORN SON.

THIS WEEK, HUMAN RIGHTS UNBORN SON.

THIS WEEK, HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS THIS WEEK, HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS CALLED FOR HER RELEASE.

GROUPS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS CALLED FOR HER RELEASE.

ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW CALLED FOR HER RELEASE.

ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW SAID THE DEATH SENTENCE WAS A ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW SAID THE DEATH SENTENCE WAS A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY.

SAID THE DEATH SENTENCE WAS A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY.

>>> THERE WERE PRAYERS AROUND DISGRACE TO HUMANITY.

>>> THERE WERE PRAYERS AROUND THE WORLD FOR VICTIMS OF HEAVY >>> THERE WERE PRAYERS AROUND THE WORLD FOR VICTIMS OF HEAVY FLOODS IN THE BALKANS, THE WORST THE WORLD FOR VICTIMS OF HEAVY FLOODS IN THE BALKANS, THE WORST THERE IN MORE THAN A CENTURY.

FLOODS IN THE BALKANS, THE WORST THERE IN MORE THAN A CENTURY.

THE FLOODS HAVE TAKEN LIVES IN THERE IN MORE THAN A CENTURY.

THE FLOODS HAVE TAKEN LIVES IN SERBIA, BOSNIA, AND CROATIA, AND THE FLOODS HAVE TAKEN LIVES IN SERBIA, BOSNIA, AND CROATIA, AND FORCED TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE TO SERBIA, BOSNIA, AND CROATIA, AND FORCED TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE TO FLEE THEIR HOMES.

FORCED TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE TO FLEE THEIR HOMES.

FAITH GROUPS INCLUDING CATHOLIC FLEE THEIR HOMES.

FAITH GROUPS INCLUDING CATHOLIC RELIEF SERVICES ARE RAISING FAITH GROUPS INCLUDING CATHOLIC RELIEF SERVICES ARE RAISING MONEY FOR THE RELIEF EFFORT.

RELIEF SERVICES ARE RAISING MONEY FOR THE RELIEF EFFORT.

ENTIRE CITIES ARE SAID TO BE MONEY FOR THE RELIEF EFFORT.

ENTIRE CITIES ARE SAID TO BE WITHOUT DRINKING WATER AND ENTIRE CITIES ARE SAID TO BE WITHOUT DRINKING WATER AND ELECTRICITY, AND THERE ARE WITHOUT DRINKING WATER AND ELECTRICITY, AND THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DANGER POSED ELECTRICITY, AND THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DANGER POSED BY SHIFTING LANDMINES LEFT OVER CONCERNS ABOUT THE DANGER POSED BY SHIFTING LANDMINES LEFT OVER FROM THE BOSNIAN WAR.

BY SHIFTING LANDMINES LEFT OVER FROM THE BOSNIAN WAR.

>>> NOW, OUR SPECIAL REPORT ON FROM THE BOSNIAN WAR.

>>> NOW, OUR SPECIAL REPORT ON THE POPE'S MIDDLE EAST TRIP.

>>> NOW, OUR SPECIAL REPORT ON THE POPE'S MIDDLE EAST TRIP.

AMID ALL THE POLITICAL AND THE POPE'S MIDDLE EAST TRIP.

AMID ALL THE POLITICAL AND DIPLOMATIC CHALLENGES AMID ALL THE POLITICAL AND DIPLOMATIC CHALLENGES SURROUNDING THE VISIT, KIM DIPLOMATIC CHALLENGES SURROUNDING THE VISIT, KIM LAWTON SPOKE WITH A DIVERSE SURROUNDING THE VISIT, KIM LAWTON SPOKE WITH A DIVERSE ARRAY OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS ABOUT LAWTON SPOKE WITH A DIVERSE ARRAY OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS ABOUT THEIR HOPES FOR WHAT FRANCIS MAY ARRAY OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS ABOUT THEIR HOPES FOR WHAT FRANCIS MAY ACCOMPLISH.

THEIR HOPES FOR WHAT FRANCIS MAY ACCOMPLISH.

>> Reporter: THE SUPER-STAR ACCOMPLISH.

>> Reporter: THE SUPER-STAR STATUS OF POPE FRANCIS HAS >> Reporter: THE SUPER-STAR STATUS OF POPE FRANCIS HAS CAPTURED THE IMAGINATIONS OF STATUS OF POPE FRANCIS HAS CAPTURED THE IMAGINATIONS OF CATHOLICS AND NON-CATHOLICS CAPTURED THE IMAGINATIONS OF CATHOLICS AND NON-CATHOLICS ALIKE.

CATHOLICS AND NON-CATHOLICS ALIKE.

AND THAT HAS RAISED EXPECTATIONS ALIKE.

AND THAT HAS RAISED EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WHAT COULD RESULT FROM HIS AND THAT HAS RAISED EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WHAT COULD RESULT FROM HIS HOLY LAND VISIT.

ABOUT WHAT COULD RESULT FROM HIS HOLY LAND VISIT.

>> SINCE HE'S ASCENDED TO THE HOLY LAND VISIT.

>> SINCE HE'S ASCENDED TO THE PAPACY, HE HAS ACQUIRED AN >> SINCE HE'S ASCENDED TO THE PAPACY, HE HAS ACQUIRED AN ATTRACTION, A POPULARITY THAT IS PAPACY, HE HAS ACQUIRED AN ATTRACTION, A POPULARITY THAT IS QUITE AMAZING.

ATTRACTION, A POPULARITY THAT IS QUITE AMAZING.

I MEAN, HIS POPULARITY REALLY QUITE AMAZING.

I MEAN, HIS POPULARITY REALLY GIVES HIM AN EMPOWERMENT THAT I I MEAN, HIS POPULARITY REALLY GIVES HIM AN EMPOWERMENT THAT I HOPE HE USES.

GIVES HIM AN EMPOWERMENT THAT I HOPE HE USES.

>> WHEN HE BRINGS AN ISSUE TO HOPE HE USES.

>> WHEN HE BRINGS AN ISSUE TO LIGHT, A LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR >> WHEN HE BRINGS AN ISSUE TO LIGHT, A LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT IT.

LIGHT, A LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT IT.

AND NOT JUST IN THE MIDDLE EAST, ABOUT IT.

AND NOT JUST IN THE MIDDLE EAST, NOT JUST IN THE VATICAN, BUT ALL AND NOT JUST IN THE MIDDLE EAST, NOT JUST IN THE VATICAN, BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD, PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST IN THE VATICAN, BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD, PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND PEOPLE ARE OVER THE WORLD, PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING.

WATCHING AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING.

>> Reporter: THE MAIN PURPOSE OF LISTENING.

>> Reporter: THE MAIN PURPOSE OF FRANCIS' TRIP IS A SERIES OF >> Reporter: THE MAIN PURPOSE OF FRANCIS' TRIP IS A SERIES OF MEETINGS WITH ECUMENICAL FRANCIS' TRIP IS A SERIES OF MEETINGS WITH ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW, SPIRITUAL MEETINGS WITH ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW, SPIRITUAL LEADER OF THE WORLD'S EASTERN PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW, SPIRITUAL LEADER OF THE WORLD'S EASTERN ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS.

LEADER OF THE WORLD'S EASTERN ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS.

THE TWO ARE COMMEMORATING THE ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS.

THE TWO ARE COMMEMORATING THE 50th ANNIVERSARY OF THE HISTORIC THE TWO ARE COMMEMORATING THE 50th ANNIVERSARY OF THE HISTORIC MEETING IN JERUSALEM OF THEIR 50th ANNIVERSARY OF THE HISTORIC MEETING IN JERUSALEM OF THEIR PREDECESSORS POPE PAUL VI AND MEETING IN JERUSALEM OF THEIR PREDECESSORS POPE PAUL VI AND PATRIARCH ATHENAGORAS.

PREDECESSORS POPE PAUL VI AND PATRIARCH ATHENAGORAS.

THAT ENDED NEARLY A MILLENNIUM PATRIARCH ATHENAGORAS.

THAT ENDED NEARLY A MILLENNIUM OF ESTRANGEMENT BETWEEN THOSE THAT ENDED NEARLY A MILLENNIUM OF ESTRANGEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO BRANCHES OF CHRISTIANITY.

OF ESTRANGEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO BRANCHES OF CHRISTIANITY.

>> IN 1054, THE PATRIARCH TWO BRANCHES OF CHRISTIANITY.

>> IN 1054, THE PATRIARCH EXCOMMUNICATED THE PAPAL >> IN 1054, THE PATRIARCH EXCOMMUNICATED THE PAPAL REPRESENTATIVE, AND THE PAPAL EXCOMMUNICATED THE PAPAL REPRESENTATIVE, AND THE PAPAL REPRESENTATIVE EXCOMMUNICATED REPRESENTATIVE, AND THE PAPAL REPRESENTATIVE EXCOMMUNICATED THE ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH AT THAT REPRESENTATIVE EXCOMMUNICATED THE ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH AT THAT TIME.

THE ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH AT THAT TIME.

THEN THERE WAS THE 1204 CRUSADE TIME.

THEN THERE WAS THE 1204 CRUSADE IN WHICH THE WEST PILLAGED AND THEN THERE WAS THE 1204 CRUSADE IN WHICH THE WEST PILLAGED AND SACKED CONSTANTINOPLE, CREATING IN WHICH THE WEST PILLAGED AND SACKED CONSTANTINOPLE, CREATING A GREATER SEPARATION.

SACKED CONSTANTINOPLE, CREATING A GREATER SEPARATION.

THERE WERE TIMES TRYING TO GET A GREATER SEPARATION.

THERE WERE TIMES TRYING TO GET TOGETHER JUST BEFORE THE FALL OF THERE WERE TIMES TRYING TO GET TOGETHER JUST BEFORE THE FALL OF CONSTANTINOPLE IN 1453, BUT TOGETHER JUST BEFORE THE FALL OF CONSTANTINOPLE IN 1453, BUT THERE WAS NO DIALOGUE FROM THAT CONSTANTINOPLE IN 1453, BUT THERE WAS NO DIALOGUE FROM THAT TIME ON.

THERE WAS NO DIALOGUE FROM THAT TIME ON.

>> Reporter: FATHER ALEXANDER TIME ON.

>> Reporter: FATHER ALEXANDER KARLOUTSOS IS A KEY LEADER IN >> Reporter: FATHER ALEXANDER KARLOUTSOS IS A KEY LEADER IN THE GREEK ORTHODOX ARCHDIOCESE KARLOUTSOS IS A KEY LEADER IN THE GREEK ORTHODOX ARCHDIOCESE OF AMERICA.

THE GREEK ORTHODOX ARCHDIOCESE OF AMERICA.

HE SAYS SINCE THE 1964 MEETING, OF AMERICA.

HE SAYS SINCE THE 1964 MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT HE SAYS SINCE THE 1964 MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT ADVANCES IN ORTHODOX-CATHOLIC THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT ADVANCES IN ORTHODOX-CATHOLIC DIALOGUE AND THE SHARING OF SOME ADVANCES IN ORTHODOX-CATHOLIC DIALOGUE AND THE SHARING OF SOME SACRAMENTS.

DIALOGUE AND THE SHARING OF SOME SACRAMENTS.

BUT SOME IMPORTANT THEOLOGICAL SACRAMENTS.

BUT SOME IMPORTANT THEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES REMAIN, ESPECIALLY BUT SOME IMPORTANT THEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES REMAIN, ESPECIALLY OVER THE ROLE OF THE POPE.

DIFFERENCES REMAIN, ESPECIALLY OVER THE ROLE OF THE POPE.

>> IF IT IS THE FIRST AMONG OVER THE ROLE OF THE POPE.

>> IF IT IS THE FIRST AMONG EQUALS, THE CHIEF OF THE >> IF IT IS THE FIRST AMONG EQUALS, THE CHIEF OF THE APOSTLES, THEN THE ORTHODOX EQUALS, THE CHIEF OF THE APOSTLES, THEN THE ORTHODOX CHURCH READILY RECOGNIZES THAT.

APOSTLES, THEN THE ORTHODOX CHURCH READILY RECOGNIZES THAT.

IF IT'S AN AUTHORITARIAN, "I CHURCH READILY RECOGNIZES THAT.

IF IT'S AN AUTHORITARIAN, "I HAVE THE ROLE OF TRUTH AND NO IF IT'S AN AUTHORITARIAN, "I HAVE THE ROLE OF TRUTH AND NO ONE ELSE," THEN THAT'S SERIOUSLY HAVE THE ROLE OF TRUTH AND NO ONE ELSE," THEN THAT'S SERIOUSLY A PROBLEM THAT THE ORTHODOX ONE ELSE," THEN THAT'S SERIOUSLY A PROBLEM THAT THE ORTHODOX WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME A PROBLEM THAT THE ORTHODOX WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME ACCEPTING.

WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME ACCEPTING.

>> Reporter: STILL, KARLOUTSOS ACCEPTING.

>> Reporter: STILL, KARLOUTSOS BELIEVES THE JOINT APPEARANCES >> Reporter: STILL, KARLOUTSOS BELIEVES THE JOINT APPEARANCES OF THE LEADERS PROVIDE A BELIEVES THE JOINT APPEARANCES OF THE LEADERS PROVIDE A PROFOUND WITNESS FOR CHRISTIAN OF THE LEADERS PROVIDE A PROFOUND WITNESS FOR CHRISTIAN UNITY.

PROFOUND WITNESS FOR CHRISTIAN UNITY.

>> WHEN THEY'RE PRAYING UNITY.

>> WHEN THEY'RE PRAYING TOGETHER, IT CAN SHOW THAT >> WHEN THEY'RE PRAYING TOGETHER, IT CAN SHOW THAT PEOPLE, IN SPITE OF THE TOGETHER, IT CAN SHOW THAT PEOPLE, IN SPITE OF THE DIFFERENCES OR DOGMATIC PEOPLE, IN SPITE OF THE DIFFERENCES OR DOGMATIC SYMBOLISMS, THEY CAN TALK TO DIFFERENCES OR DOGMATIC SYMBOLISMS, THEY CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER IN LOVE, PRAY TO THE SYMBOLISMS, THEY CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER IN LOVE, PRAY TO THE ONE FATHER, REACH OUT TO THE EACH OTHER IN LOVE, PRAY TO THE ONE FATHER, REACH OUT TO THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ONE FATHER, REACH OUT TO THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE WORLD IN RECONCILIATION.

BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE WORLD IN RECONCILIATION.

>> Reporter: FATHER NABIL HADDAD WORLD IN RECONCILIATION.

>> Reporter: FATHER NABIL HADDAD OF THE MELKITE CATHOLIC CHURCH >> Reporter: FATHER NABIL HADDAD OF THE MELKITE CATHOLIC CHURCH HELPED PLAN THE JORDAN LEG OF OF THE MELKITE CATHOLIC CHURCH HELPED PLAN THE JORDAN LEG OF THE POPE'S TRIP.

HELPED PLAN THE JORDAN LEG OF THE POPE'S TRIP.

>> WE PRAY THAT HIS EMBRACE WITH THE POPE'S TRIP.

>> WE PRAY THAT HIS EMBRACE WITH HIS BROTHERS WILL GIVE THE >> WE PRAY THAT HIS EMBRACE WITH HIS BROTHERS WILL GIVE THE MESSAGE TO ALL CHRISTIANS, NOT HIS BROTHERS WILL GIVE THE MESSAGE TO ALL CHRISTIANS, NOT TO THE ORTHODOX AND THE MESSAGE TO ALL CHRISTIANS, NOT TO THE ORTHODOX AND THE CATHOLICS, BUT TO ALL TO THE ORTHODOX AND THE CATHOLICS, BUT TO ALL CHRISTIANS, THAT WE FOLLOW ONE CATHOLICS, BUT TO ALL CHRISTIANS, THAT WE FOLLOW ONE LORD, ONE GOD, ONE JESUS.

CHRISTIANS, THAT WE FOLLOW ONE LORD, ONE GOD, ONE JESUS.

>> Reporter: HADDAD SAYS THE LORD, ONE GOD, ONE JESUS.

>> Reporter: HADDAD SAYS THE VISIT WILL BRING ENCOURAGEMENT >> Reporter: HADDAD SAYS THE VISIT WILL BRING ENCOURAGEMENT TO CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT THE VISIT WILL BRING ENCOURAGEMENT TO CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST.

TO CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST.

IN RECENT YEARS, CHRISTIANS HAVE MIDDLE EAST.

IN RECENT YEARS, CHRISTIANS HAVE BECOME A DRAMATICALLY SMALLER IN RECENT YEARS, CHRISTIANS HAVE BECOME A DRAMATICALLY SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION, BECOME A DRAMATICALLY SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION, AND IN MANY PARTS OF THE REGION, PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION, AND IN MANY PARTS OF THE REGION, THEY HAVE FACED INCREASED AND IN MANY PARTS OF THE REGION, THEY HAVE FACED INCREASED PERSECUTION.

THEY HAVE FACED INCREASED PERSECUTION.

>> HOW CAN WE IMAGINE A MIDDLE PERSECUTION.

>> HOW CAN WE IMAGINE A MIDDLE EAST WITHOUT CHRISTIANS?

>> HOW CAN WE IMAGINE A MIDDLE EAST WITHOUT CHRISTIANS?

>> Reporter: REVEREND MITRI EAST WITHOUT CHRISTIANS?

>> Reporter: REVEREND MITRI RAHEB IS PASTOR OF CHRISTMAS >> Reporter: REVEREND MITRI RAHEB IS PASTOR OF CHRISTMAS LUTHERAN CHURCH IN BETHLEHEM AND RAHEB IS PASTOR OF CHRISTMAS LUTHERAN CHURCH IN BETHLEHEM AND AUTHOR OF THE BOOK FAITH IN THE LUTHERAN CHURCH IN BETHLEHEM AND AUTHOR OF THE BOOK FAITH IN THE FACE OF EMPIRE, THE BIBLE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK FAITH IN THE FACE OF EMPIRE, THE BIBLE THROUGH PALESTINIAN EYES.

FACE OF EMPIRE, THE BIBLE THROUGH PALESTINIAN EYES.

HE BELIEVES A PAPAL VISIT THROUGH PALESTINIAN EYES.

HE BELIEVES A PAPAL VISIT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A HE BELIEVES A PAPAL VISIT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A STRONG DEMONSTRATION OF THE PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A STRONG DEMONSTRATION OF THE CHRISTIAN PRESENCE THERE.

STRONG DEMONSTRATION OF THE CHRISTIAN PRESENCE THERE.

>> USUALLY YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE CHRISTIAN PRESENCE THERE.

>> USUALLY YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE CHRISTIANS EACH IN THEIR OWN >> USUALLY YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE CHRISTIANS EACH IN THEIR OWN LITTLE CHURCH, YOU KNOW LIKE CHRISTIANS EACH IN THEIR OWN LITTLE CHURCH, YOU KNOW LIKE SMALL FLOCKS THAT ARE LOST HERE LITTLE CHURCH, YOU KNOW LIKE SMALL FLOCKS THAT ARE LOST HERE AND THERE.

SMALL FLOCKS THAT ARE LOST HERE AND THERE.

AND USUALLY WHEN HE COMES AND AND THERE.

AND USUALLY WHEN HE COMES AND EVERYONE COMES TOGETHER, YOU AND USUALLY WHEN HE COMES AND EVERYONE COMES TOGETHER, YOU FEEL THAT THERE IS STILL A EVERYONE COMES TOGETHER, YOU FEEL THAT THERE IS STILL A CHRISTIAN PRESENCE IN THAT FEEL THAT THERE IS STILL A CHRISTIAN PRESENCE IN THAT COUNTRY.

CHRISTIAN PRESENCE IN THAT COUNTRY.

THIS GIVES PEOPLE JUST COUNTRY.

THIS GIVES PEOPLE JUST PSYCHOLOGICALLY THE FEELING THAT THIS GIVES PEOPLE JUST PSYCHOLOGICALLY THE FEELING THAT YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE.

PSYCHOLOGICALLY THE FEELING THAT YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE.

>> Reporter: IT'S A MESSAGE HE YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE.

>> Reporter: IT'S A MESSAGE HE HOPES IS TRANSMITTED BEYOND THE >> Reporter: IT'S A MESSAGE HE HOPES IS TRANSMITTED BEYOND THE MIDDLE EAST.

HOPES IS TRANSMITTED BEYOND THE MIDDLE EAST.

>> MANY STILL DON'T KNOW THAT WE MIDDLE EAST.

>> MANY STILL DON'T KNOW THAT WE EXIST.

>> MANY STILL DON'T KNOW THAT WE EXIST.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TEASE PEOPLE EXIST.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TEASE PEOPLE BY SAYING JESUS WAS YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TEASE PEOPLE BY SAYING JESUS WAS NOT BORN IN BETHLEHEM, BY SAYING JESUS WAS NOT BORN IN BETHLEHEM, PENNSYLVANIA.

NOT BORN IN BETHLEHEM, PENNSYLVANIA.

HE WAS BORN IN BETHLEHEM, PENNSYLVANIA.

HE WAS BORN IN BETHLEHEM, PALESTINE AND SO THERE HAS BEEN HE WAS BORN IN BETHLEHEM, PALESTINE AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A CHRISTIAN PRESENCE IN THAT PALESTINE AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A CHRISTIAN PRESENCE IN THAT COUNTRY FOR THE LAST 2000 YEARS.

A CHRISTIAN PRESENCE IN THAT COUNTRY FOR THE LAST 2000 YEARS.

>> Reporter: ALTHOUGH FRANCIS COUNTRY FOR THE LAST 2000 YEARS.

>> Reporter: ALTHOUGH FRANCIS HAS HOSTED INTERFAITH MEETINGS >> Reporter: ALTHOUGH FRANCIS HAS HOSTED INTERFAITH MEETINGS AT THE VATICAN, MANY WERE HAS HOSTED INTERFAITH MEETINGS AT THE VATICAN, MANY WERE DISAPPOINTED THAT NO OFFICIAL AT THE VATICAN, MANY WERE DISAPPOINTED THAT NO OFFICIAL INTERRELIGIOUS GATHERINGS WERE DISAPPOINTED THAT NO OFFICIAL INTERRELIGIOUS GATHERINGS WERE PLANNED FOR THIS TRIP.

INTERRELIGIOUS GATHERINGS WERE PLANNED FOR THIS TRIP.

BUT THE POPE IS TRAVELING WITH A PLANNED FOR THIS TRIP.

BUT THE POPE IS TRAVELING WITH A RABBI AND A MUSLIM LEADER HE BUT THE POPE IS TRAVELING WITH A RABBI AND A MUSLIM LEADER HE KNEW IN ARGENTINA -- A SIGNAL, RABBI AND A MUSLIM LEADER HE KNEW IN ARGENTINA -- A SIGNAL, SOME SAY, OF HIS STRONG KNEW IN ARGENTINA -- A SIGNAL, SOME SAY, OF HIS STRONG INTERFAITH COMMITMENT.

SOME SAY, OF HIS STRONG INTERFAITH COMMITMENT.

>> HE'S HAD RELATIONSHIPS INTERFAITH COMMITMENT.

>> HE'S HAD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITIES, >> HE'S HAD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITIES, MUSLIM COMMUNITIES, FOR QUITE WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITIES, MUSLIM COMMUNITIES, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

MUSLIM COMMUNITIES, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

EVEN BEFORE HE GOT TO THE SOME TIME.

EVEN BEFORE HE GOT TO THE VATICAN, AND SO I THINK HIS EVEN BEFORE HE GOT TO THE VATICAN, AND SO I THINK HIS RELATIONS AND HIS OUTREACH AND VATICAN, AND SO I THINK HIS RELATIONS AND HIS OUTREACH AND JUST HIS DEMEANOR HAS BEEN ALL RELATIONS AND HIS OUTREACH AND JUST HIS DEMEANOR HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT ENGAGEMENT.

JUST HIS DEMEANOR HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT ENGAGEMENT.

AND IT'S SET A VERY POSITIVE ABOUT ENGAGEMENT.

AND IT'S SET A VERY POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND ENVIRONMENT.

AND IT'S SET A VERY POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND ENVIRONMENT.

>> Reporter: FRANCIS IS MEETING ATTITUDE AND ENVIRONMENT.

>> Reporter: FRANCIS IS MEETING SEPARATELY WITH NON-CHRISTIAN >> Reporter: FRANCIS IS MEETING SEPARATELY WITH NON-CHRISTIAN LEADERS, INCLUDING THE GRAND SEPARATELY WITH NON-CHRISTIAN LEADERS, INCLUDING THE GRAND MUFTI OF JERUSALEM.

LEADERS, INCLUDING THE GRAND MUFTI OF JERUSALEM.

HARIS TARIN OF THE MUSLIM PUBLIC MUFTI OF JERUSALEM.

HARIS TARIN OF THE MUSLIM PUBLIC AFFAIRS COUNCIL BELIEVES THIS HARIS TARIN OF THE MUSLIM PUBLIC AFFAIRS COUNCIL BELIEVES THIS WILL ENHANCE MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN AFFAIRS COUNCIL BELIEVES THIS WILL ENHANCE MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN RELATIONS.

WILL ENHANCE MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN RELATIONS.

>> THERE IS A FALSE SENSE, A LOT RELATIONS.

>> THERE IS A FALSE SENSE, A LOT OF TIMES, IN MUSLIM-MAJORITY >> THERE IS A FALSE SENSE, A LOT OF TIMES, IN MUSLIM-MAJORITY COUNTRIES, THAT THERE'S SOMEHOW OF TIMES, IN MUSLIM-MAJORITY COUNTRIES, THAT THERE'S SOMEHOW A WAR BETWEEN THE WEST AND ISLAM COUNTRIES, THAT THERE'S SOMEHOW A WAR BETWEEN THE WEST AND ISLAM OR MUSLIMS.

A WAR BETWEEN THE WEST AND ISLAM OR MUSLIMS.

THERE'S THIS VERY FALSE OR MUSLIMS.

THERE'S THIS VERY FALSE FRAMEWORK THAT'S PUT OUT THERE.

THERE'S THIS VERY FALSE FRAMEWORK THAT'S PUT OUT THERE.

AND A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE IN FRAMEWORK THAT'S PUT OUT THERE.

AND A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD FEEL THAT AND A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD FEEL THAT THE WEST, CHRISTIANITY THAT PART OF THE WORLD FEEL THAT THE WEST, CHRISTIANITY REPRESENTS THE WEST.

THE WEST, CHRISTIANITY REPRESENTS THE WEST.

AND SO THE SYMBOL OF THE POPE REPRESENTS THE WEST.

AND SO THE SYMBOL OF THE POPE GOING INTO THE DOME OF THE ROCK, AND SO THE SYMBOL OF THE POPE GOING INTO THE DOME OF THE ROCK, ENGAGING WITH THE GRAND MUFTI, GOING INTO THE DOME OF THE ROCK, ENGAGING WITH THE GRAND MUFTI, AND MEETING MUSLIMS, WILL GO A ENGAGING WITH THE GRAND MUFTI, AND MEETING MUSLIMS, WILL GO A LONG WAY IN SHATTERING THOSE AND MEETING MUSLIMS, WILL GO A LONG WAY IN SHATTERING THOSE STEREOTYPES.

LONG WAY IN SHATTERING THOSE STEREOTYPES.

>> Reporter: FOR THE JEWISH STEREOTYPES.

>> Reporter: FOR THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, THE POPE'S VISIT >> Reporter: FOR THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, THE POPE'S VISIT REPRESENTS AN AFFIRMATION OF THE COMMUNITY, THE POPE'S VISIT REPRESENTS AN AFFIRMATION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND A REJECTION REPRESENTS AN AFFIRMATION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND A REJECTION OF THE HISTORIC TENSIONS BETWEEN STATE OF ISRAEL AND A REJECTION OF THE HISTORIC TENSIONS BETWEEN CHRISTIANS AND JEWS.

OF THE HISTORIC TENSIONS BETWEEN CHRISTIANS AND JEWS.

RABBI DAVID ROSEN IS CHRISTIANS AND JEWS.

RABBI DAVID ROSEN IS INTERNATIONAL DIRECTOR OF RABBI DAVID ROSEN IS INTERNATIONAL DIRECTOR OF INTERRELIGIOUS AFFAIRS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DIRECTOR OF INTERRELIGIOUS AFFAIRS FOR THE AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE.

INTERRELIGIOUS AFFAIRS FOR THE AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE.

HE'S BASED IN JERUSALEM.

AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE.

HE'S BASED IN JERUSALEM.

>> EVEN THOUGH OF COURSE, POPE HE'S BASED IN JERUSALEM.

>> EVEN THOUGH OF COURSE, POPE FRANCIS HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT >> EVEN THOUGH OF COURSE, POPE FRANCIS HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TRADITIONS FRANCIS HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TRADITIONS THAT ARE IN THAT LAND, HIS VERY OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TRADITIONS THAT ARE IN THAT LAND, HIS VERY ENCOUNTER AND EMBRACE WITH THAT ARE IN THAT LAND, HIS VERY ENCOUNTER AND EMBRACE WITH JEWISH RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL ENCOUNTER AND EMBRACE WITH JEWISH RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL LEADERSHIP WILL BE INDEED A JEWISH RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL LEADERSHIP WILL BE INDEED A STATEMENT OF THIS AMAZINGLY LEADERSHIP WILL BE INDEED A STATEMENT OF THIS AMAZINGLY TRANSFORMED BLESSED RELATIONSHIP STATEMENT OF THIS AMAZINGLY TRANSFORMED BLESSED RELATIONSHIP IN OUR TIMES.

TRANSFORMED BLESSED RELATIONSHIP IN OUR TIMES.

>> Reporter: WHILE MANY JEWS IN OUR TIMES.

>> Reporter: WHILE MANY JEWS LOVED JOHN PAUL THE SECOND, >> Reporter: WHILE MANY JEWS LOVED JOHN PAUL THE SECOND, ROSEN SAYS FRANCIS HAS EVEN LOVED JOHN PAUL THE SECOND, ROSEN SAYS FRANCIS HAS EVEN CLOSER FRIENDSHIPS IN THE JEWISH ROSEN SAYS FRANCIS HAS EVEN CLOSER FRIENDSHIPS IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.

CLOSER FRIENDSHIPS IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.

>> THERE'S NEVER EVER BEEN A COMMUNITY.

>> THERE'S NEVER EVER BEEN A POPE WHO HAS HAD FRIENDSHIPS >> THERE'S NEVER EVER BEEN A POPE WHO HAS HAD FRIENDSHIPS LIKE THIS AS AN ADULT, BECAUSE POPE WHO HAS HAD FRIENDSHIPS LIKE THIS AS AN ADULT, BECAUSE JOHN PAUL II OF COURSE HAD A LIKE THIS AS AN ADULT, BECAUSE JOHN PAUL II OF COURSE HAD A VERY SPECIAL CHILDHOOD IN TERMS JOHN PAUL II OF COURSE HAD A VERY SPECIAL CHILDHOOD IN TERMS OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN VERY SPECIAL CHILDHOOD IN TERMS OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN CRACOVIA IN POLAND, BUT THIS IS OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN CRACOVIA IN POLAND, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST POPE WHO'S HAD SUCH CRACOVIA IN POLAND, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST POPE WHO'S HAD SUCH ADULT FRIENDSHIPS, SUCH THE FIRST POPE WHO'S HAD SUCH ADULT FRIENDSHIPS, SUCH FAMILIARITY WITH THE JEWISH ADULT FRIENDSHIPS, SUCH FAMILIARITY WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND IS KNOWN TO BE FAMILIARITY WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND IS KNOWN TO BE SUCH A GOOD FRIEND, THEREFORE, COMMUNITY AND IS KNOWN TO BE SUCH A GOOD FRIEND, THEREFORE, OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

SUCH A GOOD FRIEND, THEREFORE, OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

>> Reporter: WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

>> Reporter: WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ISRAELIS >> Reporter: WITH THE BREAKDOWN OF NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS, MANY ARE OF NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS, MANY ARE HOPING THE POPE WILL USE HIS AND PALESTINIANS, MANY ARE HOPING THE POPE WILL USE HIS MORAL INFLUENCE TO REIGNITE THE HOPING THE POPE WILL USE HIS MORAL INFLUENCE TO REIGNITE THE PEACE PROCESS.

MORAL INFLUENCE TO REIGNITE THE PEACE PROCESS.

>> I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HAVE MORE PEACE PROCESS.

>> I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HAVE MORE A PROPHETIC VOICE.

>> I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HAVE MORE A PROPHETIC VOICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POPE A PROPHETIC VOICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POPE PUSHING, SAYING, IT IS ENOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POPE PUSHING, SAYING, IT IS ENOUGH THAT THE HOLY LAND HAVE BEEN PUSHING, SAYING, IT IS ENOUGH THAT THE HOLY LAND HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH WARS FOR THE LAST THAT THE HOLY LAND HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH WARS FOR THE LAST 3,000 YEARS AND IT'S HIGH TIME, GOING THROUGH WARS FOR THE LAST 3,000 YEARS AND IT'S HIGH TIME, IT'S HIGH TIME, IT'S LONG 3,000 YEARS AND IT'S HIGH TIME, IT'S HIGH TIME, IT'S LONG OVERDUE THAT PEACE WILL BE A IT'S HIGH TIME, IT'S LONG OVERDUE THAT PEACE WILL BE A REALITY.

OVERDUE THAT PEACE WILL BE A REALITY.

>> I THINK THE FIRST THING HE REALITY.

>> I THINK THE FIRST THING HE CAN DO IS FOCUS ON THE IDEA THAT >> I THINK THE FIRST THING HE CAN DO IS FOCUS ON THE IDEA THAT EVERYBODY'S NARRATIVE AND EVERY CAN DO IS FOCUS ON THE IDEA THAT EVERYBODY'S NARRATIVE AND EVERY HUMAN BEING IS WORTH SO MUCH IN EVERYBODY'S NARRATIVE AND EVERY HUMAN BEING IS WORTH SO MUCH IN THE EYES OF GOD, AND I THINK HUMAN BEING IS WORTH SO MUCH IN THE EYES OF GOD, AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THING -- MESSAGE THE EYES OF GOD, AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THING -- MESSAGE THAT HE CAN SEND, THAT THAT'S THE ONE THING -- MESSAGE THAT HE CAN SEND, THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR STATE, OR THAT HE CAN SEND, THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR STATE, OR REGARDLESS OF YOUR FAITH, YOU REGARDLESS OF YOUR STATE, OR REGARDLESS OF YOUR FAITH, YOU HAVE ESSENCE OF DIGNITY AS A REGARDLESS OF YOUR FAITH, YOU HAVE ESSENCE OF DIGNITY AS A HUMAN BEING.

HAVE ESSENCE OF DIGNITY AS A HUMAN BEING.

>> ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT HUMAN BEING.

>> ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS HE CAN DO IS TO HELP US >> ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS HE CAN DO IS TO HELP US BREAK THE ZERO-SUM MENTALITY, THINGS HE CAN DO IS TO HELP US BREAK THE ZERO-SUM MENTALITY, THE ASSUMPTION THAT IF IT'S GOOD BREAK THE ZERO-SUM MENTALITY, THE ASSUMPTION THAT IF IT'S GOOD FOR ME AS AN ISRAELI, IT MUST BE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IF IT'S GOOD FOR ME AS AN ISRAELI, IT MUST BE BAD FOR THE PALESTINIAN, IF FOR ME AS AN ISRAELI, IT MUST BE BAD FOR THE PALESTINIAN, IF SOMETHING'S GOOD FOR THE BAD FOR THE PALESTINIAN, IF SOMETHING'S GOOD FOR THE PALESTINIAN, IT MUST BE BAD FOR SOMETHING'S GOOD FOR THE PALESTINIAN, IT MUST BE BAD FOR ME AS AN ISRAELI.

PALESTINIAN, IT MUST BE BAD FOR ME AS AN ISRAELI.

WE NEED TO LEARN A WIN/WIN ME AS AN ISRAELI.

WE NEED TO LEARN A WIN/WIN APPROACH, THAT WHAT'S GOOD FOR WE NEED TO LEARN A WIN/WIN APPROACH, THAT WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE OTHER CAN AND SHOULD BE GOOD APPROACH, THAT WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE OTHER CAN AND SHOULD BE GOOD FOR ME AND VICE VERSA.

THE OTHER CAN AND SHOULD BE GOOD FOR ME AND VICE VERSA.

AND PART OF THAT MEANS SHOWING FOR ME AND VICE VERSA.

AND PART OF THAT MEANS SHOWING CARE AND LOVE FOR EACH OTHER.

AND PART OF THAT MEANS SHOWING CARE AND LOVE FOR EACH OTHER.

>> Reporter: RELIGIOUS LEADERS CARE AND LOVE FOR EACH OTHER.

>> Reporter: RELIGIOUS LEADERS ADMIT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE >> Reporter: RELIGIOUS LEADERS ADMIT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH, AND IN THE THORNY CONTEXT ADMIT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGH, AND IN THE THORNY CONTEXT OF THE MIDDLE EAST, EVEN THE HIGH, AND IN THE THORNY CONTEXT OF THE MIDDLE EAST, EVEN THE MOST MODEST OF HOPES CAN BE OF THE MIDDLE EAST, EVEN THE MOST MODEST OF HOPES CAN BE EASILY DASHED.

MOST MODEST OF HOPES CAN BE EASILY DASHED.

STILL, MANY SAY THEY ARE EASILY DASHED.

STILL, MANY SAY THEY ARE OPTIMISTIC THAT IF ANYONE CAN STILL, MANY SAY THEY ARE OPTIMISTIC THAT IF ANYONE CAN ACHIEVE THE UNEXPECTED, IT MAY OPTIMISTIC THAT IF ANYONE CAN ACHIEVE THE UNEXPECTED, IT MAY WELL BE POPE FRANCIS.

ACHIEVE THE UNEXPECTED, IT MAY WELL BE POPE FRANCIS.

>> I THINK HIS HOLINESS IS WELL BE POPE FRANCIS.

>> I THINK HIS HOLINESS IS BRINGING US HOPE AND HE IS >> I THINK HIS HOLINESS IS BRINGING US HOPE AND HE IS ENCOURAGING ALL THOSE SUFFERING BRINGING US HOPE AND HE IS ENCOURAGING ALL THOSE SUFFERING IN THIS REGION, THAT YES, THE ENCOURAGING ALL THOSE SUFFERING IN THIS REGION, THAT YES, THE HOPE IS THERE AND PEACE IS IN THIS REGION, THAT YES, THE HOPE IS THERE AND PEACE IS POSSIBLE.

HOPE IS THERE AND PEACE IS POSSIBLE.

>> Reporter: I'M KIM LAWTON POSSIBLE.

>> Reporter: I'M KIM LAWTON REPORTING.

>> Reporter: I'M KIM LAWTON REPORTING.

>>> IN OTHER NEWS, AMID SOME REPORTING.

>>> IN OTHER NEWS, AMID SOME CONTROVERSY, THE 9/11 MEMORIAL >>> IN OTHER NEWS, AMID SOME CONTROVERSY, THE 9/11 MEMORIAL MUSEUM OPENED TO THE PUBLIC THIS CONTROVERSY, THE 9/11 MEMORIAL MUSEUM OPENED TO THE PUBLIC THIS WEEK IN NEW YORK.

MUSEUM OPENED TO THE PUBLIC THIS WEEK IN NEW YORK.

THAT SPACE, DEEP UNDERGROUND, IS WEEK IN NEW YORK.

THAT SPACE, DEEP UNDERGROUND, IS CONSIDERED SACRED BY MANY THAT SPACE, DEEP UNDERGROUND, IS CONSIDERED SACRED BY MANY VISITORS, SOME OF WHOM CONSIDERED SACRED BY MANY VISITORS, SOME OF WHOM COMPLAINED THAT IT IS NO PLACE VISITORS, SOME OF WHOM COMPLAINED THAT IT IS NO PLACE FOR A GIFT SHOP.

COMPLAINED THAT IT IS NO PLACE FOR A GIFT SHOP.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD FOR A GIFT SHOP.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE MONEY >> I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE MEMORIAL.

IDEA FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE MEMORIAL.

IT'S A TRIBUTE TO THE PEOPLE WHO OFF THE MEMORIAL.

IT'S A TRIBUTE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED HERE.

IT'S A TRIBUTE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED HERE.

>> IF IT'S TO SUPPORT THE WERE KILLED HERE.

>> IF IT'S TO SUPPORT THE MUSEUM, I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT.

>> IF IT'S TO SUPPORT THE MUSEUM, I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT.

ANYTHING TO KEEP THE MEMORY MUSEUM, I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT.

ANYTHING TO KEEP THE MEMORY ALIVE OF EVERYONE WHO LOST THEIR ANYTHING TO KEEP THE MEMORY ALIVE OF EVERYONE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES.

ALIVE OF EVERYONE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES.

>>> MORE EVIDENCE THIS WEEK THAT LIVES.

>>> MORE EVIDENCE THIS WEEK THAT MANY AMERICANS EXAGGERATE THEIR >>> MORE EVIDENCE THIS WEEK THAT MANY AMERICANS EXAGGERATE THEIR CHURCH ATTENDANCE.

MANY AMERICANS EXAGGERATE THEIR CHURCH ATTENDANCE.

IN A NEW STUDY CALLED "I KNOW CHURCH ATTENDANCE.

IN A NEW STUDY CALLED "I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUNDAY," THE IN A NEW STUDY CALLED "I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUNDAY," THE PUBLIC RELIGION RESEARCH WHAT YOU DID LAST SUNDAY," THE PUBLIC RELIGION RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOUND THAT PEOPLE WERE PUBLIC RELIGION RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOUND THAT PEOPLE WERE MORE LIKELY TO INSTITUTE FOUND THAT PEOPLE WERE MORE LIKELY TO ADMIT THEY SELDOM OR NEVER MORE LIKELY TO ADMIT THEY SELDOM OR NEVER ATTEND A RELIGIOUS SERVICE IN AN ADMIT THEY SELDOM OR NEVER ATTEND A RELIGIOUS SERVICE IN AN ANONYMOUS INTERNET SURVEY THAN ATTEND A RELIGIOUS SERVICE IN AN ANONYMOUS INTERNET SURVEY THAN THEY WERE IN A TELEPHONE POLL.

ANONYMOUS INTERNET SURVEY THAN THEY WERE IN A TELEPHONE POLL.

THE GREATEST EXAGGERATORS?

THEY WERE IN A TELEPHONE POLL.

THE GREATEST EXAGGERATORS?

WHITE MAINLINE PROTESTANTS, THE GREATEST EXAGGERATORS?

WHITE MAINLINE PROTESTANTS, CATHOLICS, AND THE RELIGIOUSLY WHITE MAINLINE PROTESTANTS, CATHOLICS, AND THE RELIGIOUSLY UNAFFILIATED.

CATHOLICS, AND THE RELIGIOUSLY UNAFFILIATED.

>>> AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR GAY UNAFFILIATED.

>>> AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR GAY MARRIAGE IS AT AN ALL-TIME >>> AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR GAY MARRIAGE IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH, 55% ACCORDING TO A MARRIAGE IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH, 55% ACCORDING TO A NEW GALLUP POLL.

HIGH, 55% ACCORDING TO A NEW GALLUP POLL.

THE POLL CONFIRMS THE GROWING NEW GALLUP POLL.

THE POLL CONFIRMS THE GROWING ACCEPTANCE OF GAY MARRIAGE IS THE POLL CONFIRMS THE GROWING ACCEPTANCE OF GAY MARRIAGE IS PARTICULARLY STRONG AMONG THOSE ACCEPTANCE OF GAY MARRIAGE IS PARTICULARLY STRONG AMONG THOSE 18 THROUGH 29.

PARTICULARLY STRONG AMONG THOSE 18 THROUGH 29.

THE NEWS CAME AS BANS ON 18 THROUGH 29.

THE NEWS CAME AS BANS ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WERE STRUCK THE NEWS CAME AS BANS ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WERE STRUCK DOWN IN TWO MORE STATES.

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WERE STRUCK DOWN IN TWO MORE STATES.

FEDERAL JUDGES OVERTURNED BANS DOWN IN TWO MORE STATES.

FEDERAL JUDGES OVERTURNED BANS IN OREGON AND PENNSYLVANIA, FEDERAL JUDGES OVERTURNED BANS IN OREGON AND PENNSYLVANIA, PROMPTING A RUSH OF SAME-SEX IN OREGON AND PENNSYLVANIA, PROMPTING A RUSH OF SAME-SEX WEDDINGS IN THOSE STATES.

PROMPTING A RUSH OF SAME-SEX WEDDINGS IN THOSE STATES.

>>> SEVERAL RECENT COURT CASES WEDDINGS IN THOSE STATES.

>>> SEVERAL RECENT COURT CASES HAVE RAISED THE QUESTION OF >>> SEVERAL RECENT COURT CASES HAVE RAISED THE QUESTION OF WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR FAMILY HAVE RAISED THE QUESTION OF WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR FAMILY CAN REFUSE ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR FAMILY CAN REFUSE ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS TO DO BUSINESS WITH SOMEONE CAN REFUSE ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS TO DO BUSINESS WITH SOMEONE BECAUSE OF HIS OR HER LIFESTYLE, TO DO BUSINESS WITH SOMEONE BECAUSE OF HIS OR HER LIFESTYLE, GAYS OR LESBIANS, FOR INSTANCE.

BECAUSE OF HIS OR HER LIFESTYLE, GAYS OR LESBIANS, FOR INSTANCE.

NOW, THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI GAYS OR LESBIANS, FOR INSTANCE.

NOW, THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI HAS PASSED A LAW CALLED THE NOW, THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI HAS PASSED A LAW CALLED THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION HAS PASSED A LAW CALLED THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.

ITS BACKERS SAY IT IS NECESSARY ACT.

ITS BACKERS SAY IT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PRACTICE OF ITS BACKERS SAY IT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PRACTICE OF RELIGION FROM POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THE PRACTICE OF RELIGION FROM POSSIBLE ENCROACHMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT.

RELIGION FROM POSSIBLE ENCROACHMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT.

BUT, AS LUCKY SEVERSON REPORTS, ENCROACHMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT.

BUT, AS LUCKY SEVERSON REPORTS, SOME MINORITIES FEAR IT COULD BE BUT, AS LUCKY SEVERSON REPORTS, SOME MINORITIES FEAR IT COULD BE USED TO JUSTIFY DISCRIMINATION.

SOME MINORITIES FEAR IT COULD BE USED TO JUSTIFY DISCRIMINATION.

♪ USED TO JUSTIFY DISCRIMINATION.

♪ >> Reporter: AT THE LIBERTY ♪ >> Reporter: AT THE LIBERTY BAPTIST CHURCH IN WAYNESBORO, >> Reporter: AT THE LIBERTY BAPTIST CHURCH IN WAYNESBORO, MISSISSIPPI, PHILLIP GANDY HAS BAPTIST CHURCH IN WAYNESBORO, MISSISSIPPI, PHILLIP GANDY HAS BEEN PASTOR FOR 24 YEARS.

MISSISSIPPI, PHILLIP GANDY HAS BEEN PASTOR FOR 24 YEARS.

HE SAYS GOD AND HIS CONGREGATION BEEN PASTOR FOR 24 YEARS.

HE SAYS GOD AND HIS CONGREGATION WANTED HIM TO RUN FOR THE STATE HE SAYS GOD AND HIS CONGREGATION WANTED HIM TO RUN FOR THE STATE SENATE BECAUSE -- WANTED HIM TO RUN FOR THE STATE SENATE BECAUSE -- >> THERE ARE SOME REAL SENATE BECAUSE -- >> THERE ARE SOME REAL ENCROACHMENTS ON RELIGIOUS >> THERE ARE SOME REAL ENCROACHMENTS ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN AMERICA.

ENCROACHMENTS ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN AMERICA.

SINCE, SAY, THE '60s WE BEGAN TO FREEDOM IN AMERICA.

SINCE, SAY, THE '60s WE BEGAN TO SEE A FEELING BY PEOPLE OF SINCE, SAY, THE '60s WE BEGAN TO SEE A FEELING BY PEOPLE OF FAITH, PRIMARILY CHRISTIANS, SEE A FEELING BY PEOPLE OF FAITH, PRIMARILY CHRISTIANS, THAT THERE IS A -- MAYBE A FAITH, PRIMARILY CHRISTIANS, THAT THERE IS A -- MAYBE A HOSTILITY THAT HAS DEVELOPED THAT THERE IS A -- MAYBE A HOSTILITY THAT HAS DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS TOWARD HOSTILITY THAT HAS DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS TOWARD CHRISTIANITY.

OVER THE YEARS TOWARD CHRISTIANITY.

>> Reporter: SO MISSISSIPPI CHRISTIANITY.

>> Reporter: SO MISSISSIPPI STATE SENATOR GANDY, WITH STRONG >> Reporter: SO MISSISSIPPI STATE SENATOR GANDY, WITH STRONG SUPPORT FROM HIS CONGREGATION, STATE SENATOR GANDY, WITH STRONG SUPPORT FROM HIS CONGREGATION, SPONSORED AND PUSHED THROUGH A SUPPORT FROM HIS CONGREGATION, SPONSORED AND PUSHED THROUGH A LAW CALLED THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM SPONSORED AND PUSHED THROUGH A LAW CALLED THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS LAW CALLED THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS RFRA.

RESTORATION ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS RFRA.

IT'S SIMILAR IN PURPOSE TO A RFRA.

IT'S SIMILAR IN PURPOSE TO A CONTROVERSIAL BILL THAT WAS IT'S SIMILAR IN PURPOSE TO A CONTROVERSIAL BILL THAT WAS REJECTED BY ARIZONA'S GOVERNOR.

CONTROVERSIAL BILL THAT WAS REJECTED BY ARIZONA'S GOVERNOR.

DAVID MASCI IS SENIOR RESEARCHER REJECTED BY ARIZONA'S GOVERNOR.

DAVID MASCI IS SENIOR RESEARCHER AT THE PEW CENTER'S PROJECT ON DAVID MASCI IS SENIOR RESEARCHER AT THE PEW CENTER'S PROJECT ON RELIGION AND PUBLIC LIFE.

AT THE PEW CENTER'S PROJECT ON RELIGION AND PUBLIC LIFE.

>> WHAT RFRA DOES ESSENTIALLY IS RELIGION AND PUBLIC LIFE.

>> WHAT RFRA DOES ESSENTIALLY IS MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE >> WHAT RFRA DOES ESSENTIALLY IS MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE GOVERNMENT, OR MAKE IT VERY HARD MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE GOVERNMENT, OR MAKE IT VERY HARD FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO PREVAIL GOVERNMENT, OR MAKE IT VERY HARD FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO PREVAIL WHEN THE GOVERNMENT -- WHEN A FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO PREVAIL WHEN THE GOVERNMENT -- WHEN A GOVERNMENT STATUTE RUNS UP WHEN THE GOVERNMENT -- WHEN A GOVERNMENT STATUTE RUNS UP AGAINST RELIGIOUS PRACTICE.

GOVERNMENT STATUTE RUNS UP AGAINST RELIGIOUS PRACTICE.

>> Reporter: SENATOR GANDY SAYS AGAINST RELIGIOUS PRACTICE.

>> Reporter: SENATOR GANDY SAYS THE KIND OF PROTECTION HE >> Reporter: SENATOR GANDY SAYS THE KIND OF PROTECTION HE ENVISIONS FOR INSTANCE WOULD BE THE KIND OF PROTECTION HE ENVISIONS FOR INSTANCE WOULD BE WHEN ZONING REGULATIONS PREVENT ENVISIONS FOR INSTANCE WOULD BE WHEN ZONING REGULATIONS PREVENT THE CHURCH FROM BUILDING IN A WHEN ZONING REGULATIONS PREVENT THE CHURCH FROM BUILDING IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE CHURCH FROM BUILDING IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT CRITICS ARGUE IT IS A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT CRITICS ARGUE IT IS A PROTECTION THAT SIMPLY IS NOT BUT CRITICS ARGUE IT IS A PROTECTION THAT SIMPLY IS NOT NEEDED.

PROTECTION THAT SIMPLY IS NOT NEEDED.

A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A NEEDED.

A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM.

A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM.

JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS HEADS THE PROBLEM.

JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS HEADS THE MISSISSIPPI ACLU.

JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS HEADS THE MISSISSIPPI ACLU.

>> THE PROPONENTS OF THE BILL MISSISSIPPI ACLU.

>> THE PROPONENTS OF THE BILL SAID THAT THEY WERE RESTORING >> THE PROPONENTS OF THE BILL SAID THAT THEY WERE RESTORING CHRISTIAN VALUES AND PROTECTING SAID THAT THEY WERE RESTORING CHRISTIAN VALUES AND PROTECTING CHRISTIANITY.

CHRISTIAN VALUES AND PROTECTING CHRISTIANITY.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DON'T CHRISTIANITY.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY RESTORED BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY RESTORED ANYTHING.

THINK THAT THEY RESTORED ANYTHING.

IN FACT, I THINK THAT THEY ANYTHING.

IN FACT, I THINK THAT THEY REGRESSED THE STATE OF IN FACT, I THINK THAT THEY REGRESSED THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI.

REGRESSED THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI.

>> THE LAW WAS DESIGNED TO MISSISSIPPI.

>> THE LAW WAS DESIGNED TO PROTECT PEOPLE OF FAITH FROM >> THE LAW WAS DESIGNED TO PROTECT PEOPLE OF FAITH FROM HAVING THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS PROTECT PEOPLE OF FAITH FROM HAVING THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS VIOLATED.

HAVING THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS VIOLATED.

>> Reporter: THE SENATOR OFFERED VIOLATED.

>> Reporter: THE SENATOR OFFERED A HYPOTHETICAL.

>> Reporter: THE SENATOR OFFERED A HYPOTHETICAL.

>> LET'S JUST SUPPOSE THAT A LAW A HYPOTHETICAL.

>> LET'S JUST SUPPOSE THAT A LAW WAS PASSED THAT SAID THAT YOU >> LET'S JUST SUPPOSE THAT A LAW WAS PASSED THAT SAID THAT YOU HAD TO DRIVE TO JACKSON, WAS PASSED THAT SAID THAT YOU HAD TO DRIVE TO JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, TO GET YOUR HAD TO DRIVE TO JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, TO GET YOUR LICENSE, AND THE ONLY DAY THAT MISSISSIPPI, TO GET YOUR LICENSE, AND THE ONLY DAY THAT YOU COULD GET YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE, AND THE ONLY DAY THAT YOU COULD GET YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE WOULD BE ON SUNDAY.

YOU COULD GET YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE WOULD BE ON SUNDAY.

THAT WOULD BE A LAW THAT WOULD LICENSE WOULD BE ON SUNDAY.

THAT WOULD BE A LAW THAT WOULD UNNECESSARILY BURDEN PEOPLE OF THAT WOULD BE A LAW THAT WOULD UNNECESSARILY BURDEN PEOPLE OF FAITH.

UNNECESSARILY BURDEN PEOPLE OF FAITH.

>> Reporter: SENATOR GANDY SAYS FAITH.

>> Reporter: SENATOR GANDY SAYS THE SUBJECT OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE >> Reporter: SENATOR GANDY SAYS THE SUBJECT OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE NEVER ENTERED THE DEBATE.

THE SUBJECT OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE NEVER ENTERED THE DEBATE.

HE SAYS CHURCH LEADERS FROM NEVER ENTERED THE DEBATE.

HE SAYS CHURCH LEADERS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY SUPPORTED THE HE SAYS CHURCH LEADERS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY SUPPORTED THE BILL.

AROUND THE COUNTRY SUPPORTED THE BILL.

BUT THERE WERE QUITE A NUMBER BILL.

BUT THERE WERE QUITE A NUMBER WHO DID NOT.

BUT THERE WERE QUITE A NUMBER WHO DID NOT.

>> I WONDER IF IT'S NOT A WHO DID NOT.

>> I WONDER IF IT'S NOT A LOW-LEVEL FORM OF HYSTERIA >> I WONDER IF IT'S NOT A LOW-LEVEL FORM OF HYSTERIA THAT'S SWEEPING SECTIONS OF THE LOW-LEVEL FORM OF HYSTERIA THAT'S SWEEPING SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY.

THAT'S SWEEPING SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY.

>> Reporter: JIM WINKLER HEADS COUNTRY.

>> Reporter: JIM WINKLER HEADS THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF >> Reporter: JIM WINKLER HEADS THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF CHURCHES, COMPRISING ABOUT THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF CHURCHES, COMPRISING ABOUT 100,000 LOCAL CHURCHES WITH CHURCHES, COMPRISING ABOUT 100,000 LOCAL CHURCHES WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION MEMBERS, 100,000 LOCAL CHURCHES WITH ABOUT 40 MILLION MEMBERS, ALTHOUGH NOT ALL AGREE ON ABOUT 40 MILLION MEMBERS, ALTHOUGH NOT ALL AGREE ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE OR ON OTHER ALTHOUGH NOT ALL AGREE ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE OR ON OTHER ISSUES.

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE OR ON OTHER ISSUES.

>> I GUESS I KIND OF VIEW IT AS ISSUES.

>> I GUESS I KIND OF VIEW IT AS A REARGUARD ACTION BY THOSE WHO >> I GUESS I KIND OF VIEW IT AS A REARGUARD ACTION BY THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED BY CHANGES TAKING A REARGUARD ACTION BY THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED BY CHANGES TAKING PLACE IN SOCIETY, BY THE GROWING ARE CONCERNED BY CHANGES TAKING PLACE IN SOCIETY, BY THE GROWING NUMBER OF LAWS THAT PROTECT LGBT PLACE IN SOCIETY, BY THE GROWING NUMBER OF LAWS THAT PROTECT LGBT PEOPLE, THOSE WHO HAVE SAME-SEX NUMBER OF LAWS THAT PROTECT LGBT PEOPLE, THOSE WHO HAVE SAME-SEX MARRIAGES.

PEOPLE, THOSE WHO HAVE SAME-SEX MARRIAGES.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS MARRIAGES.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS REACTIONARY TOWARD ANY >> I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS REACTIONARY TOWARD ANY PARTICULAR THING THAT'S REACTIONARY TOWARD ANY PARTICULAR THING THAT'S HAPPENING IN SOCIETY.

PARTICULAR THING THAT'S HAPPENING IN SOCIETY.

I THINK IT'S JUST A DESIRE THAT HAPPENING IN SOCIETY.

I THINK IT'S JUST A DESIRE THAT PEOPLE OF FAITH HAVE SO THAT WE I THINK IT'S JUST A DESIRE THAT PEOPLE OF FAITH HAVE SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PRACTICE OUR PEOPLE OF FAITH HAVE SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PRACTICE OUR FAITH WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO PRACTICE OUR FAITH WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT IMPOSING UPON US BURDENS THAT FAITH WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT IMPOSING UPON US BURDENS THAT WOULD LIMIT THAT.

IMPOSING UPON US BURDENS THAT WOULD LIMIT THAT.

>> Reporter: THE STATE'S CHAMBER WOULD LIMIT THAT.

>> Reporter: THE STATE'S CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SUPPORTED SENATE >> Reporter: THE STATE'S CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SUPPORTED SENATE BILL 2681, BUT AT LEAST OF COMMERCE SUPPORTED SENATE BILL 2681, BUT AT LEAST 150 JACKSON BUSINESSES DECIDEDLY BILL 2681, BUT AT LEAST 150 JACKSON BUSINESSES DECIDEDLY DON'T.

150 JACKSON BUSINESSES DECIDEDLY DON'T.

THEY HAVE SIGNED UP TO DISPLAY A DON'T.

THEY HAVE SIGNED UP TO DISPLAY A WINDOW STICKER THAT SAYS "IF THEY HAVE SIGNED UP TO DISPLAY A WINDOW STICKER THAT SAYS "IF YOU'RE BUYING, WE'RE SELLING."

WINDOW STICKER THAT SAYS "IF YOU'RE BUYING, WE'RE SELLING."

IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T CARE YOU'RE BUYING, WE'RE SELLING."

IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR LIFE STYLE.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR LIFE STYLE.

HAIR SALON OWNER EDDIE OUTLAW IS ABOUT YOUR LIFE STYLE.

HAIR SALON OWNER EDDIE OUTLAW IS ONE THE BUSINESS LEADERS BEHIND HAIR SALON OWNER EDDIE OUTLAW IS ONE THE BUSINESS LEADERS BEHIND "IF YOU'RE BUYING, WE'RE ONE THE BUSINESS LEADERS BEHIND "IF YOU'RE BUYING, WE'RE SELLING."

"IF YOU'RE BUYING, WE'RE SELLING."

>> WAS SORT OF A WAY TO LET THE SELLING."

>> WAS SORT OF A WAY TO LET THE REST OF THE NATION KNOW THAT >> WAS SORT OF A WAY TO LET THE REST OF THE NATION KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROGRESSIVES HERE THAT REST OF THE NATION KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROGRESSIVES HERE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, THERE ARE PROGRESSIVES HERE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, THAT WE FOUGHT AGAINST IT, WE ARE OPPOSED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, THAT WE FOUGHT AGAINST IT, WE DID SOME DAMAGE, BUT WE DIDN'T THAT WE FOUGHT AGAINST IT, WE DID SOME DAMAGE, BUT WE DIDN'T STOP IT.

DID SOME DAMAGE, BUT WE DIDN'T STOP IT.

>> MISSISSIPPIANS ARE ACCEPTING STOP IT.

>> MISSISSIPPIANS ARE ACCEPTING OF SAME-SEX PARTNERS.

>> MISSISSIPPIANS ARE ACCEPTING OF SAME-SEX PARTNERS.

THEY MAY NOT BE ACCEPTING OF OF SAME-SEX PARTNERS.

THEY MAY NOT BE ACCEPTING OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, BUT THEY'RE THEY MAY NOT BE ACCEPTING OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, BUT THEY'RE ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE'S EXPRESSION SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, BUT THEY'RE ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE'S EXPRESSION OF THEIR OWN SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE'S EXPRESSION OF THEIR OWN SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

>> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI'S OF THEIR OWN SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

>> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI'S CONSTITUTION BANS SAME-SEX >> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI'S CONSTITUTION BANS SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, SO MANY ARGUE THAT A CONSTITUTION BANS SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, SO MANY ARGUE THAT A STATE RFRA WASN'T NEEDED IN THE MARRIAGE, SO MANY ARGUE THAT A STATE RFRA WASN'T NEEDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

STATE RFRA WASN'T NEEDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS WITH THE FIRST PLACE.

JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS WITH THE ACLU SAYS THERE WAS NO OUTCRY JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS WITH THE ACLU SAYS THERE WAS NO OUTCRY FOR A NEW LAW, EXCEPT FROM SOME ACLU SAYS THERE WAS NO OUTCRY FOR A NEW LAW, EXCEPT FROM SOME OF THE LEGISLATORS THEMSELVES.

FOR A NEW LAW, EXCEPT FROM SOME OF THE LEGISLATORS THEMSELVES.

>> ALL I KEPT HEARING WAS THEY OF THE LEGISLATORS THEMSELVES.

>> ALL I KEPT HEARING WAS THEY WANTED TO PROMOTE CHRISTIAN >> ALL I KEPT HEARING WAS THEY WANTED TO PROMOTE CHRISTIAN VALUES.

WANTED TO PROMOTE CHRISTIAN VALUES.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS VALUES.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS WHERE WE ARE CONCERNED AS THE AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS WHERE WE ARE CONCERNED AS THE ACLU BECAUSE NOT ONE -- NO ONE WHERE WE ARE CONCERNED AS THE ACLU BECAUSE NOT ONE -- NO ONE RELIGION SHOULD BE PROMOTED ACLU BECAUSE NOT ONE -- NO ONE RELIGION SHOULD BE PROMOTED AHEAD OF OTHER RELIGIONS.

RELIGION SHOULD BE PROMOTED AHEAD OF OTHER RELIGIONS.

EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO AHEAD OF OTHER RELIGIONS.

EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE OR NOT TO BELIEVE.

EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE OR NOT TO BELIEVE.

>> Reporter: IN 1993, PRESIDENT BELIEVE OR NOT TO BELIEVE.

>> Reporter: IN 1993, PRESIDENT CLINTON SIGNED INTO LAW A >> Reporter: IN 1993, PRESIDENT CLINTON SIGNED INTO LAW A FEDERAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM CLINTON SIGNED INTO LAW A FEDERAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.

FEDERAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.

A FEW YEARS LATER, THE SUPREME RESTORATION ACT.

A FEW YEARS LATER, THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT LAW ONLY APPLIED A FEW YEARS LATER, THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT LAW ONLY APPLIED TO FEDERAL STATUTES, AND SEVERAL COURT SAID THAT LAW ONLY APPLIED TO FEDERAL STATUTES, AND SEVERAL STATES QUICKLY PASSED THEIR OWN TO FEDERAL STATUTES, AND SEVERAL STATES QUICKLY PASSED THEIR OWN LAWS.

STATES QUICKLY PASSED THEIR OWN LAWS.

IT'S SUCH LAWS THAT WERE THE LAWS.

IT'S SUCH LAWS THAT WERE THE BASIS FOR THE PROPOSED IT'S SUCH LAWS THAT WERE THE BASIS FOR THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION THE ARIZONA GOVERNOR BASIS FOR THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION THE ARIZONA GOVERNOR RECENTLY VETOED, AND THE ONE LEGISLATION THE ARIZONA GOVERNOR RECENTLY VETOED, AND THE ONE SENATOR GANDY INTRODUCED.

RECENTLY VETOED, AND THE ONE SENATOR GANDY INTRODUCED.

>> THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION THAT SENATOR GANDY INTRODUCED.

>> THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION THAT WAS PROPOSED WAS TERRIBLE.

>> THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION THAT WAS PROPOSED WAS TERRIBLE.

IT BASICALLY WAS A LICENSE TO WAS PROPOSED WAS TERRIBLE.

IT BASICALLY WAS A LICENSE TO DISCRIMINATE, JUST FLAT OUT.

IT BASICALLY WAS A LICENSE TO DISCRIMINATE, JUST FLAT OUT.

I WILL TELL YOU, THROUGH THE DISCRIMINATE, JUST FLAT OUT.

I WILL TELL YOU, THROUGH THE PUBLIC OUTCRY AND PEOPLE COMING I WILL TELL YOU, THROUGH THE PUBLIC OUTCRY AND PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER AND STANDING TOGETHER, PUBLIC OUTCRY AND PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER AND STANDING TOGETHER, THE LEGISLATION WENT THROUGH TOGETHER AND STANDING TOGETHER, THE LEGISLATION WENT THROUGH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS.

THE LEGISLATION WENT THROUGH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY THROUGH SOME SEVERAL AMENDMENTS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY THROUGH SOME POLITICAL MANEUVERING IT WAS BUT UNFORTUNATELY THROUGH SOME POLITICAL MANEUVERING IT WAS KEPT ALIVE.

POLITICAL MANEUVERING IT WAS KEPT ALIVE.

>> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI NOW KEPT ALIVE.

>> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI NOW BECOMES THE 19th STATE TO ENACT >> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI NOW BECOMES THE 19th STATE TO ENACT ITS OWN RELIGION FREEDOM LAW.

BECOMES THE 19th STATE TO ENACT ITS OWN RELIGION FREEDOM LAW.

SEVERAL OTHER STATES ARE ITS OWN RELIGION FREEDOM LAW.

SEVERAL OTHER STATES ARE CONSIDERING SIMILAR LEGISLATION.

SEVERAL OTHER STATES ARE CONSIDERING SIMILAR LEGISLATION.

>> THERE'S STILL VERY GREAT CONSIDERING SIMILAR LEGISLATION.

>> THERE'S STILL VERY GREAT SUPPORT FOR IT, AT LEAST FROM >> THERE'S STILL VERY GREAT SUPPORT FOR IT, AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE SEE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS SUPPORT FOR IT, AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE SEE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

WHAT WE SEE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

AND, NOT SURPRISINGLY, MOST OF IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

AND, NOT SURPRISINGLY, MOST OF THE STATES THAT HAVE PASSED RFRA AND, NOT SURPRISINGLY, MOST OF THE STATES THAT HAVE PASSED RFRA LAWS ARE IN THE MIDWEST AND IN THE STATES THAT HAVE PASSED RFRA LAWS ARE IN THE MIDWEST AND IN THE SOUTH, PLACES THAT TEND TO LAWS ARE IN THE MIDWEST AND IN THE SOUTH, PLACES THAT TEND TO BE MORE SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE.

THE SOUTH, PLACES THAT TEND TO BE MORE SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE.

♪ BE MORE SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE.

♪ >> Reporter: THE ISSUE HERE, ♪ >> Reporter: THE ISSUE HERE, WHICH MAY BE AS BIG OR EVEN >> Reporter: THE ISSUE HERE, WHICH MAY BE AS BIG OR EVEN BIGGER THAN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS WHICH MAY BE AS BIG OR EVEN BIGGER THAN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS THE FEAR OF ENCROACHING BIGGER THAN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS THE FEAR OF ENCROACHING GOVERNMENT, UNDERSCORED BY A TEA THE FEAR OF ENCROACHING GOVERNMENT, UNDERSCORED BY A TEA PARTY BUS CARAVAN THAT SHOWED UP GOVERNMENT, UNDERSCORED BY A TEA PARTY BUS CARAVAN THAT SHOWED UP AT THE CAPITOL WHILE WE WERE PARTY BUS CARAVAN THAT SHOWED UP AT THE CAPITOL WHILE WE WERE THERE.

AT THE CAPITOL WHILE WE WERE THERE.

>> WE'RE STARTING TO UNITE.

THERE.

>> WE'RE STARTING TO UNITE.

THEY HAVE GIVEN US SO MANY >> WE'RE STARTING TO UNITE.

THEY HAVE GIVEN US SO MANY REASONS TO NOT LIKE THEM.

THEY HAVE GIVEN US SO MANY REASONS TO NOT LIKE THEM.

>> IS IT AIMED AT GOVERNMENT?

REASONS TO NOT LIKE THEM.

>> IS IT AIMED AT GOVERNMENT?

>> IT'S AIMING AT KEEPING >> IS IT AIMED AT GOVERNMENT?

>> IT'S AIMING AT KEEPING GOVERNMENT IN ITS PLACE.

>> IT'S AIMING AT KEEPING GOVERNMENT IN ITS PLACE.

>> Reporter: THERE'S A MISTRUST GOVERNMENT IN ITS PLACE.

>> Reporter: THERE'S A MISTRUST OF GOVERNMENT?

>> Reporter: THERE'S A MISTRUST OF GOVERNMENT?

>> I THINK SO.

OF GOVERNMENT?

>> I THINK SO.

>> I DON'T HAVE A DOUBT THAT IN >> I THINK SO.

>> I DON'T HAVE A DOUBT THAT IN SOME CONGREGATIONS, MAYBE MANY >> I DON'T HAVE A DOUBT THAT IN SOME CONGREGATIONS, MAYBE MANY CONGREGATIONS, THAT IDEOLOGY SOME CONGREGATIONS, MAYBE MANY CONGREGATIONS, THAT IDEOLOGY GETS PROMOTED.

CONGREGATIONS, THAT IDEOLOGY GETS PROMOTED.

IT'S INTERESTING TO ME JUST GETS PROMOTED.

IT'S INTERESTING TO ME JUST AS -- NOT ONLY AS A CHRISTIAN IT'S INTERESTING TO ME JUST AS -- NOT ONLY AS A CHRISTIAN BUT AS A CITIZEN HOW STRONGLY AS -- NOT ONLY AS A CHRISTIAN BUT AS A CITIZEN HOW STRONGLY THIS ANTI-GOVERNMENT ATTITUDE BUT AS A CITIZEN HOW STRONGLY THIS ANTI-GOVERNMENT ATTITUDE HAS GROWN UP OVER THE YEARS.

THIS ANTI-GOVERNMENT ATTITUDE HAS GROWN UP OVER THE YEARS.

>> Reporter: THE ACLU'S JENNIFER HAS GROWN UP OVER THE YEARS.

>> Reporter: THE ACLU'S JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS ALSO WORRIES ABOUT >> Reporter: THE ACLU'S JENNIFER RILEY COLLINS ALSO WORRIES ABOUT GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT BUT FROM RILEY COLLINS ALSO WORRIES ABOUT GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT BUT FROM THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.

GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT BUT FROM THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.

>> I'M ALSO A CHRISTIAN.

THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.

>> I'M ALSO A CHRISTIAN.

I PRAY TO GOD, I READ THE BIBLE >> I'M ALSO A CHRISTIAN.

I PRAY TO GOD, I READ THE BIBLE ON A DAILY BASIS.

I PRAY TO GOD, I READ THE BIBLE ON A DAILY BASIS.

I, HOWEVER, DO NOT THINK THAT MY ON A DAILY BASIS.

I, HOWEVER, DO NOT THINK THAT MY RELIGION SHOULD TRUMP ANYBODY I, HOWEVER, DO NOT THINK THAT MY RELIGION SHOULD TRUMP ANYBODY ELSE'S RELIGION.

RELIGION SHOULD TRUMP ANYBODY ELSE'S RELIGION.

AND NO GOVERNMENT SHOULD EVER BE ELSE'S RELIGION.

AND NO GOVERNMENT SHOULD EVER BE ABLE TO PROMOTE ONE RELIGION AND NO GOVERNMENT SHOULD EVER BE ABLE TO PROMOTE ONE RELIGION ABOVE ANOTHER.

ABLE TO PROMOTE ONE RELIGION ABOVE ANOTHER.

>> SENATOR AND PASTOR GANDHI ABOVE ANOTHER.

>> SENATOR AND PASTOR GANDHI REMAINS PROUD OF HIS >> SENATOR AND PASTOR GANDHI REMAINS PROUD OF HIS LEGISLATION.

REMAINS PROUD OF HIS LEGISLATION.

HE SEES IT AS A LEGITIMATE LEGISLATION.

HE SEES IT AS A LEGITIMATE PRACTICE OF HIS FAITH.

HE SEES IT AS A LEGITIMATE PRACTICE OF HIS FAITH.

>> THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENT IN PRACTICE OF HIS FAITH.

>> THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENT IN AMERICA THAT WANT TO ALLOW >> THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENT IN AMERICA THAT WANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE OF FAITH TO PRACTICE AMERICA THAT WANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE OF FAITH TO PRACTICE THEIR FAITH WITHIN THEIR CHURCH PEOPLE OF FAITH TO PRACTICE THEIR FAITH WITHIN THEIR CHURCH HOUSES, BUT NOT CARRY THAT FAITH THEIR FAITH WITHIN THEIR CHURCH HOUSES, BUT NOT CARRY THAT FAITH INTO THEIR REAL LIFE.

HOUSES, BUT NOT CARRY THAT FAITH INTO THEIR REAL LIFE.

WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT AS A INTO THEIR REAL LIFE.

WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT AS A CHRISTIAN.

WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT AS A CHRISTIAN.

AS A CHRISTIAN, MY FAITH CHRISTIAN.

AS A CHRISTIAN, MY FAITH IDENTIFIES WHO I AM, AND IT AS A CHRISTIAN, MY FAITH IDENTIFIES WHO I AM, AND IT IDENTIFIES WHAT I DO.

IDENTIFIES WHO I AM, AND IT IDENTIFIES WHAT I DO.

>> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI'S NEW IDENTIFIES WHAT I DO.

>> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI'S NEW LAW KICKS IN THE FIRST OF JULY.

>> Reporter: MISSISSIPPI'S NEW LAW KICKS IN THE FIRST OF JULY.

FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS" LAW KICKS IN THE FIRST OF JULY.

FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS" NEWSWEEKLY THIS IS LUCKY FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS" NEWSWEEKLY THIS IS LUCKY SEVERSON IN JACKSON, NEWSWEEKLY THIS IS LUCKY SEVERSON IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.

SEVERSON IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.

>>> CIVIL RIGHTS LEGEND VINCENT MISSISSIPPI.

>>> CIVIL RIGHTS LEGEND VINCENT HARDING DIED THIS WEEK.

>>> CIVIL RIGHTS LEGEND VINCENT HARDING DIED THIS WEEK.

HE WAS 82.

HARDING DIED THIS WEEK.

HE WAS 82.

HARDING WAS A RELIGION SCHOLAR, HE WAS 82.

HARDING WAS A RELIGION SCHOLAR, ACTIVIST AND OCCASIONAL HARDING WAS A RELIGION SCHOLAR, ACTIVIST AND OCCASIONAL SPEECHWRITER FOR MARTIN LUTHER ACTIVIST AND OCCASIONAL SPEECHWRITER FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR., AND HE PLAYED A SPEECHWRITER FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR., AND HE PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS KING JR., AND HE PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

PIVOTAL ROLE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

A LONG-TIME PROFESSOR AT ILIFF MOVEMENT.

A LONG-TIME PROFESSOR AT ILIFF SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY IN DENVER, A LONG-TIME PROFESSOR AT ILIFF SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY IN DENVER, HARDING WAS A POPULAR SPEAKER SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY IN DENVER, HARDING WAS A POPULAR SPEAKER AND AUTHOR.

HARDING WAS A POPULAR SPEAKER AND AUTHOR.

WE SPOKE WITH HIM LAST YEAR AND AUTHOR.

WE SPOKE WITH HIM LAST YEAR ABOUT THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF WE SPOKE WITH HIM LAST YEAR ABOUT THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

ABOUT THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

>> THAT ANNIVERSARY THAT WE THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

>> THAT ANNIVERSARY THAT WE CELEBRATE IS NOT THE ANNIVERSARY >> THAT ANNIVERSARY THAT WE CELEBRATE IS NOT THE ANNIVERSARY OF A SPEECH, BUT THE ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATE IS NOT THE ANNIVERSARY OF A SPEECH, BUT THE ANNIVERSARY OF A VERY IMPORTANT POINT IN OF A SPEECH, BUT THE ANNIVERSARY OF A VERY IMPORTANT POINT IN HISTORY WHEN BLACK PEOPLE WERE OF A VERY IMPORTANT POINT IN HISTORY WHEN BLACK PEOPLE WERE LEADING A MOVEMENT TO EXPAND HISTORY WHEN BLACK PEOPLE WERE LEADING A MOVEMENT TO EXPAND DEMOCRACY, TO DEEPEN DEMOCRACY LEADING A MOVEMENT TO EXPAND DEMOCRACY, TO DEEPEN DEMOCRACY AND TO MAKE DEMOCRACY MORE DEMOCRACY, TO DEEPEN DEMOCRACY AND TO MAKE DEMOCRACY MORE FAITHFUL TO ITS OWN SAYINGS.

AND TO MAKE DEMOCRACY MORE FAITHFUL TO ITS OWN SAYINGS.

>>> FINALLY, ON OUR CALENDAR FAITHFUL TO ITS OWN SAYINGS.

>>> FINALLY, ON OUR CALENDAR THIS WEEK, MUSLIMS OBSERVE >>> FINALLY, ON OUR CALENDAR THIS WEEK, MUSLIMS OBSERVE LAILAT AL MIRAJ, THE DAY THEY THIS WEEK, MUSLIMS OBSERVE LAILAT AL MIRAJ, THE DAY THEY BELIEVE THE PROPHET MOHAMMED LAILAT AL MIRAJ, THE DAY THEY BELIEVE THE PROPHET MOHAMMED TRAVELED FROM MECCA TO BELIEVE THE PROPHET MOHAMMED TRAVELED FROM MECCA TO JERUSALEM, AND THEN ASCENDED TRAVELED FROM MECCA TO JERUSALEM, AND THEN ASCENDED FROM HARAM AL-SHARIF, THE TEMPLE JERUSALEM, AND THEN ASCENDED FROM HARAM AL-SHARIF, THE TEMPLE MOUNT, TO HEAVEN WHERE HE FROM HARAM AL-SHARIF, THE TEMPLE MOUNT, TO HEAVEN WHERE HE RECEIVED THE COMMAND FROM ALLAH MOUNT, TO HEAVEN WHERE HE RECEIVED THE COMMAND FROM ALLAH THAT MUSLIMS PRAY FIVE TIMES A RECEIVED THE COMMAND FROM ALLAH THAT MUSLIMS PRAY FIVE TIMES A DAY.

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