>> FIXING FERGUSON, PARSING ANDACARE, ANDACARE, ISRAEL VERSUS OBAMA.
ISRAEL VERSUS OBAMA.
>> OUR INVESTIGATION S OF FERGUE >> OUR INVESTIGATION S OF FERGUE FORCE FREQUENTLY FORCE FREQUENTLY THAN DEFUSE.
THAN DEFUSE.
SEARING SEARING FERGUSON, MISSOURI.
FERGUSON, MISSOURI.
AND COULD FOUR WORDS BE FATAL AND COULD FOUR WORDS BE FATAL SIGNATUREENT OBAMA'S SIGNATUREENT OBAMA'S LEGISLATIVE ACHIEVEMENT?
LEGISLATIVE ACHIEVEMENT?
ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER ADDRESSES CONGRESS, CHALLENGING ADDRESSES CONGRESS, CHALLENGING DIPLOMATICTRATION'S DIPLOMATICTRATION'S OUTREACH TO IRAN.
OUTREACH TO IRAN.
>> THIS DEAL IS SO BAD, IT >> THIS DEAL IS SO BAD, IT TO THE BLOCK IRAN'S PATH TO THE BLOCK IRAN'S PATH BOMB, IT PAVES IRAN'S PATH TO BOMB, IT PAVES IRAN'S PATH TO BOMB.
BOMB.
>> AND THE PRESIDENT FIRES BACK.
>> AND THE PRESIDENT FIRES BACK.
IS NO ALTERNATIVE OFFERED IS NO ALTERNATIVE OFFERED DEAL IN WHICH CASE IRAN WILL DEAL IN WHICH CASE IRAN WILL PURSUING ITS NUCLEAR PURSUING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
PROGRAM.
>> AND CLINTON-MAIL-DOT-COM, >> AND CLINTON-MAIL-DOT-COM, HILLARY CLINTON UNDER FIRE FOR HILLARY CLINTON UNDER FIRE FOR ANDG TO ANDG TO HOW COMMON IS IT?
HOW COMMON IS IT?
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CORRESPONDT FOR "POTICO."
>>WARD-WINNI REPORTINGND >>WARD-WINNI REPORTINGND ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS IT ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITOL, LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITOL, WITHIS "WASHINGTON WEEK" WITHIS "WASHINGTON WEEK" GWEN IFILL.
ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, SITTING IN FOR GWEN WASHINGTON, SITTING IN FOR GWEN WEEK, PETE WILLIAMS WEEK, PETE WILLIAMS OF NBC NEWS.
OF NBC NEWS.
PETE: GOOD EVENING.
PETE: GOOD EVENING.
IMAGINE BEING ARRESTED AT IMAGINE BEING ARRESTED AT GUNPOINT BECAUSE YOUR CAR GUNPOINT BECAUSE YOUR CAR WINDOWS WERE TINTED TOO DARK.
WINDOWS WERE TINTED TOO DARK.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT THIS WEEK THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT THIS WEEK SAID THAT KIND OF POLICE CONDUCT SAID THAT KIND OF POLICE CONDUCT IS ROUTINE IN FERGUSON, IS ROUTINE IN FERGUSON, MISSOURI.
MISSOURI.
SIX MONTHS AFTER THE SHOOTING OF SIX MONTHS AFTER THE SHOOTING OF MICHAEL BROWN THAT IGNITED MICHAEL BROWN THAT IGNITED NATIONWIDE, ATTORNEY NATIONWIDE, ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER SAID THE GENERAL ERIC HOLDER SAID THE POLICE IN FERGUSON TREAT THE POLICE IN FERGUSON TREAT THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY AFRICAN PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY AFRICAN NOT AS CONSTITUENTS NOT AS CONSTITUENTS TO BE PROTECTED, BUT AS SOURCES TO BE PROTECTED, BUT AS SOURCES COFFERS.FOR THE TOWN COFFERS.FOR THE TOWN >> OUR FINDINGS INDICATED THAT >> OUR FINDINGS INDICATED THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF FORCE, ALMOST 90%, IS DIRECTED FORCE, ALMOST 90%, IS DIRECTED AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS.
AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS.
FACT, OUR VIEW OF THE FACT, OUR VIEW OF THE EVIDENCE FOUND NO, NO EVIDENCE FOUND NO, NO ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION FOR THE ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION FOR THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON AMERICAN RESIDENTS OTHER AMERICAN RESIDENTS OTHER THAN IMPLICIT AND EXPLICIT THAN IMPLICIT AND EXPLICIT BIAS.
BIAS.
OU'VE SEEN DOZENS OU'VE SEEN DOZENS REPORTS.KINDS OF REPORTS.KINDS OF HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT?
HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT?
DEPARTMENT JUSTICE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE SAID OFFICER WILSON ACTED SAID OFFICER WILSON ACTED LEGALLY IN SHOOTING MICHAEL LEGALLY IN SHOOTING MICHAEL BROWN.
BROWN.
THEY SAID IT WAS REASONABLE FOR THEY SAID IT WAS REASONABLE FOR THAT HE WAS IN THAT HE WAS IN JEOPARDY AND FIRING HIS GUN WAS JEOPARDY AND FIRING HIS GUN WAS LEGAL.
LEGAL.
THING, THEY LAID THING, THEY LAID OUT THE SPECIFICS OF THEIR OUT THE SPECIFICS OF THEIR INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION.
YEARS OF COVERING LAW YEARS OF COVERING LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT WAS RATHER ENFORCEMENT, IT WAS RATHER STUNNING.
STUNNING.
THEY BASICALLY SAID THE AFRICAN THEY BASICALLY SAID THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY IN FERGUSON COMMUNITY IN FERGUSON HAD BEEN UNDER SIEGE.
HAD BEEN UNDER SIEGE.
JOAN: IT'S INTERESTING, THAT JOAN: IT'S INTERESTING, THAT REPORT ALSO SHOWED SOME SHOCKING REPORT ALSO SHOWED SOME SHOCKING OFFICIALSM POLICE OFFICIALSM POLICE TOWARDS THE OBAMAS AND OTHERS.
TOWARDS THE OBAMAS AND OTHERS.
THE ABOUT THOSE AND THE ABOUT THOSE AND REACTIONS.
REACTIONS.
THERE: SHOCKING WOULD BE THERE: SHOCKING WOULD BE WORD I WOULD USE.
WORD I WOULD USE.
ONE EMAIL REFERRED TO THE ONE EMAIL REFERRED TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND ANOTHER AND ANOTHER SUGGESTED HE WOULD HAVE A SHORT SUGGESTED HE WOULD HAVE A SHORT TERM IN OFFICE BECAUSE WHAT TERM IN OFFICE BECAUSE WHAT BLACK MAN HOLDS A JOB LONGER BLACK MAN HOLDS A JOB LONGER THAN FOUR YEARS.
THAN FOUR YEARS.
THESE WERE PEOPLE WORKING IN THESE WERE PEOPLE WORKING IN GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S WHY MANY GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S WHY MANY WERE DISTURBED AND ECHOES BACK WERE DISTURBED AND ECHOES BACK AMERICANSNY AFRICAN AMERICANSNY AFRICAN SAID IN THAT CITY OVER THE SAID IN THAT CITY OVER THE SUMMER WHICH IS THAT THEY FELT SUMMER WHICH IS THAT THEY FELT SUBJECT OFHE SUBJECT OFHE SYSTEMATIC ABUSE BY THE POLICE SYSTEMATIC ABUSE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
DEPARTMENT.
OF THOSE EMPLOYEES OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WERE FIRED, DIDN'T THEY?
WERE FIRED, DIDN'T THEY?
FIRED AND TWOS FIRED AND TWOS RESIGNED.
RESIGNED.
>> >> REPORTER: UNDER SIEGE, WHAT DID REPORTER: UNDER SIEGE, WHAT DID MEAN FOR THE BLACK MEAN FOR THE BLACK RESIDENTS OF FERGUSON AND HOW RESIDENTS OF FERGUSON AND HOW ON?
HAD THIS BEEN GOING ON?
HAD THIS BEEN GOING PIERRE: YEARS IS HOW LONG IT WAS PIERRE: YEARS IS HOW LONG IT WAS GOING ON.
GOING ON.
ABOUT ANOKE YESTERDAY ABOUT ANOKE YESTERDAY EXAMPLE WHERE A BLACK MAN HAD EXAMPLE WHERE A BLACK MAN HAD BEEN PLAYING BASKETBALL, WAS BEEN PLAYING BASKETBALL, WAS CAR AND THEIS CAR AND THEIS POLICE OFFICER FOR SOME REASON POLICE OFFICER FOR SOME REASON WAS SUSPICIOUS OF HIM.
WAS SUSPICIOUS OF HIM.
AND BASICALLY ACCUSED THE BLACK AND BASICALLY ACCUSED THE BLACK MAN WITH NO EVIDENCE OF BEING A MAN WITH NO EVIDENCE OF BEING A PEDOPHILE.
PEDOPHILE.
THEN PROCEEDED TO MAKE THE MAN THEN PROCEEDED TO MAKE THE MAN GET OUT OF THE CAR AT GUNPOINT.
GET OUT OF THE CAR AT GUNPOINT.
REPORTER: WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
REPORTER: WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
THIS IS JUST A REPORT THAT THIS IS JUST A REPORT THAT RELEASED.
RELEASED.
HE'S GOING TO LEAVE OFFICE HE'S GOING TO LEAVE OFFICE WITHIN A FEW WEEKS NOW.
WITHIN A FEW WEEKS NOW.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T EN FILE SUIT AGAINST THE CITY.
EN FILE SUIT AGAINST THE CITY.
IS THIS CITY INTERESTED IN IS THIS CITY INTERESTED IN BE A PROTRACTED FIGHT?
>> HERE'S THE PROCESS.
>> HERE'S THE PROCESS.
THE JUSTICE THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS SNOSHTING -- DEPARTMENT IS SNOSHTING -- OFFICIALS.
WITH CITY OFFICIALS.
WITH CITY THE CITY HAS INDICATED A THE CITY HAS INDICATED A WILLINGNESS TO ADDRESS SOME OF WILLINGNESS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS.
THE ALLEGATIONS.
COMPLY, THEOT COMPLY, THEOT JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKELY JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKELY FILE SUIT AND WE HEARD THE FILE SUIT AND WE HEARD THE THEYNEY GENERAL SAY IF THEYNEY GENERAL SAY IF DON'T COMPLY, EVERYTHING'S ON DON'T COMPLY, EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE.
THE TABLE.
PETE: HE WAS ASKED, MIGHT YOU PETE: HE WAS ASKED, MIGHT YOU DISMANTLE THE POLICE DISMANTLE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HE SAID, WELL, WE DEPARTMENT AND HE SAID, WELL, WE COULD.
COULD.
OBVIOUSLY, THE JUSTICE OBVIOUSLY, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T DO THAT ITSELF, DEPARTMENT CAN'T DO THAT ITSELF, RIGHT?
RIGHT?
THEY'D HAVE TO GO TO COURT?
THEY'D HAVE TO GO TO COURT?
PIERRE: THEY'D SEEK A CONSENT PIERRE: THEY'D SEEK A CONSENT DECREE.
DECREE.
THE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT THE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT COMPLY, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT COMPLY, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT THISAY TO A JUDGE, THISAY TO A JUDGE, DEPARTMENT CANNOT OPERATE, WE DEPARTMENT CANNOT OPERATE, WE NEED ANOTHER FORM OF ENFORCEMENT NEED ANOTHER FORM OF ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY.
PETE.
PETE.
WANT IT'S UP TO FERGUSON TO WANT IT'S UP TO FERGUSON TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE THE JUSTICERE THOMAS -- THE JUSTICERE THOMAS -- PIERRE: EXACTLY, THE BALL IS IN PIERRE: EXACTLY, THE BALL IS IN THEIR HANDS.
THEIR HANDS.
YOU SAW A WILLINGNESS FROM THE YOU SAW A WILLINGNESS FROM THE IN ANNOUNCING THE IN ANNOUNCING THE EMPLOYEES WERE REMOVED OR WERE EMPLOYEES WERE REMOVED OR WERE NO LONGER WITH THE DEPARTMENT NO LONGER WITH THE DEPARTMENT MADE IT CLEAR THAT INTOLERABLE.
MADE IT CLEAR THAT INTOLERABLE.
THE POLICEABOUT THE POLICEABOUT CHIEF?
CHIEF?
PIERRE: NO WORD ON WHETHER HE'S PIERRE: NO WORD ON WHETHER HE'S GOING TO RESIGN.
GOING TO RESIGN.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE NO PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE POLICE CHIEF.
POLICE CHIEF.
COURT WASU.S.
SUPREME COURT WASU.S.
SUPREME STRUGGLING OVER A SIMPLE STRUGGLING OVER A SIMPLE QUESTION, WHO GETS A FEDERAL QUESTION, WHO GETS A FEDERAL COST OFTHAT CUTS THE COST OFTHAT CUTS THE HRNGS HEALTH INSURANCE BY AN HRNGS HEALTH INSURANCE BY AN AVERAGE OF 70%.
AVERAGE OF 70%.
OBAMACARE PROPONENTS SAY A OBAMACARE PROPONENTS SAY A PHRASE IN THE LAW MEANS IT'S PHRASE IN THE LAW MEANS IT'S ONLY FOR THOSE IN THE 16 STATES ONLY FOR THOSE IN THE 16 STATES THAT HAVE SET UP EXCHANGES.
THAT HAVE SET UP EXCHANGES.
HAS TO DECIDE WHAT THE HAS TO DECIDE WHAT THE LAW MEANS AND JOAN, DID YOU GET LAW MEANS AND JOAN, DID YOU GET A READ ON WHAT THAT RULING MIGHT A READ ON WHAT THAT RULING MIGHT BE?
BE?
JOAN: PETE, I THINK IT'S A CLOSE JOAN: PETE, I THINK IT'S A CLOSE CALL BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE CALL BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE EMERGE.ARIOS THAT COULD EMERGE.ARIOS THAT COULD I CAUTION EVERYBODY THAT A LOT I CAUTION EVERYBODY THAT A LOT CAN HAPPEN BEHIND THE SCENES CAN HAPPEN BEHIND THE SCENES AND JUNE WHEN WE SEE AND JUNE WHEN WE SEE A RULING.
A RULING.
PETE: ALTHOUGH YOUR PREDICTIONS PETE: ALTHOUGH YOUR PREDICTIONS BEEN VERY GOOD.
BEEN VERY GOOD.
JOAN: I KNOW BUT I COULD BE JOAN: I KNOW BUT I COULD BE WRONG NOW.
WRONG NOW.
I THINK THE GOVERNMENT WINS I THINK THE GOVERNMENT WINS THIS.E OF THIS.E OF THIS IS THE MAIN SCENARIO I PUT THIS IS THE MAIN SCENARIO I PUT CENTRISTIS THAT CENTRISTIS THAT CONSERVATIVE ANTHONY KENNEDY IS CONSERVATIVE ANTHONY KENNEDY IS ABOUT, IF THE ABOUT, IF THE CHALLENGES WERE TO PREVAIL, THIS CHALLENGES WERE TO PREVAIL, THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL COERCION OF THE STATES BECAUSE COERCION OF THE STATES BECAUSE STATES WOULD BE FORCED TO SET UP STATES WOULD BE FORCED TO SET UP EXCHANGES FOR PEOPLE TO GET EXCHANGES FOR PEOPLE TO GET SUBSIDIES SO THAT WAS A CONCERN SUBSIDIES SO THAT WAS A CONCERN HE HAD EVEN THOUGH LAST TIME HE HAD EVEN THOUGH LAST TIME HE RULED AGAINST THE HE RULED AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT BUT I THINK HE COULD GOVERNMENT BUT I THINK HE COULD JUSTICE JUSTICE ROBERTS WOULD BE INCLINED THAT ROBERTS WOULD BE INCLINED THAT BUT THE OTHER POSSIBLE BUT THE OTHER POSSIBLE SCENARIO THAT WOULD BE AGAINST SCENARIO THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT BUT NOT A THE GOVERNMENT BUT NOT A COMPLETE DISASTER FOR WHAT THE COMPLETE DISASTER FOR WHAT THE NEEDS HERE AND THAT NEEDS HERE AND THAT WOULD BE A 5-4 RULING ON BEHALF WOULD BE A 5-4 RULING ON BEHALF CHALLENGERS, BUT, CHALLENGERS, BUT, ACCORDING TO SOMETHING THAT ACCORDING TO SOMETHING THAT WOULDMENTIONED, THEY WOULDMENTIONED, THEY POSTPONE THE EFFECT OF THE POSTPONE THE EFFECT OF THE DECISION FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
DECISION FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
IS ISSUED WHEN THE IS ISSUED WHEN THE JUSTICES RULE AND JUSTICE ALITO JUSTICES RULE AND JUSTICE ALITO RAISED THE POSSIBILITY THAT IF RAISED THE POSSIBILITY THAT IF THE GOVERNMENT WERE TO LOSE THE GOVERNMENT WERE TO LOSE HERE, THE COURT WOULDN'T ISSUE HERE, THE COURT WOULDN'T ISSUE FULL YEAR SOFOR A FULL YEAR SOFOR A THAT THE GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL THAT THE GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATES COULD WORK GOVERNMENT AND STATES COULD WORK OUT AN ALTERNATIVE.
OUT AN ALTERNATIVE.
IS 7.5 MILLIONK IS 7.5 MILLIONK PEOPLE WHO NOW DEPEND ON PEOPLE WHO NOW DEPEND ON A MAJORITY OF THE A MAJORITY OF THE STATES WOULD NOT GET THE STATES WOULD NOT GET THE SUBSIDIES IF THE CHALLENGERS SUBSIDIES IF THE CHALLENGERS PREVAIL.
PREVAIL.
>> YOU'RE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE >> YOU'RE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE THAT KENNEDY AND THE CHIEF THAT KENNEDY AND THE CHIEF JUSTICE COULD GO FOR THE JUSTICE COULD GO FOR THE POSITION, WHICH WOULD POSITION, WHICH WOULD BE 6-3?
BE 6-3?
JOAN: THAT'S TRUE, DOYLE.
JOAN: THAT'S TRUE, DOYLE.
IS HOW WE SPEND OUR TIME IS HOW WE SPEND OUR TIME GAMING THIS OUT.
GAMING THIS OUT.
ALL THEY NEED IS FIVE.
ALL THEY NEED IS FIVE.
AND IF ANTHONY KENNEDY WERE TO AND IF ANTHONY KENNEDY WERE TO VOTE WITH THE FOUR LIBERAL VOTE WITH THE FOUR LIBERAL WHO CERTAINLY SHOWED WHO CERTAINLY SHOWED THEIR HAND ON WEDNESDAY, THAT THEIR HAND ON WEDNESDAY, THAT THEY WOULD FAVOR THE OBAMA THEY WOULD FAVOR THE OBAMA POSITION, CHIEF POSITION, CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS WOULDN'T HAVE TO JUSTICE ROBERTS WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THAT WAY AND HE'S THE ONE WHO GO THAT WAY AND HE'S THE ONE WHO FLIPPED LAST TIME AND FALLOUT, F FLIPPED LAST TIME AND FALLOUT, F PERSONAL, JUDICIAL AND LEGAL PERSONAL, JUDICIAL AND LEGAL FALLOUT FROM HIS FALLOUT FROM HIS PEOPLE SAYING YOU WERE A PEOPLE SAYING YOU WERE A TRAITOR.
TRAITOR.
NOW, I KENNEDY WHO NOW, I KENNEDY WHO SEEMED MOST INCLINED TO BUY THIS SEEMED MOST INCLINED TO BUY THIS IDEA THAT IT WOULD REALLY BE IDEA THAT IT WOULD REALLY BE STATES IF THE STATES IF THE GOVERNMENT PREVAILED BUT AGAIN, GOVERNMENT PREVAILED BUT AGAIN, DID VOTE AGAINST THE DID VOTE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT THE FIRST TIME.
GOVERNMENT THE FIRST TIME.
PIERRE: THE CHIEF JUSTICE PLAYED PIERRE: THE CHIEF JUSTICE PLAYED SUCH A CRITICAL ROLE LAST TIME.
SUCH A CRITICAL ROLE LAST TIME.
HAND THIS TIME?
HAND THIS TIME?
JOAN: NO.
JOAN: NO.
HE WAS SO GUARDED.
HE WAS SO GUARDED.
HE KEPT HIS CARDS CLOSE TO THE HE KEPT HIS CARDS CLOSE TO THE VEST.
VEST.
ASKED TWO OR THREE THINGS AND ASKED TWO OR THREE THINGS AND NEITHER INDICATED MUCH EXCEPT AT NEITHER INDICATED MUCH EXCEPT AT AE VERY END HE RAISED AE VERY END HE RAISED POSSIBILITY THAT WOULD SUGGEST POSSIBILITY THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT HE COULD OPEN TO RULING FOR THAT HE COULD OPEN TO RULING FOR THE GOVERNMENT BUT IN A WAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT BUT IN A WAY THAT WOULD LET THE NEXT WOULD LET THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION REINTERPRET THIS ADMINISTRATION REINTERPRET THIS WAY.AW A DIFFERENT WAY.AW A DIFFERENT >> HOW DID THE LAWYERS DO THIS >> HOW DID THE LAWYERS DO THIS TIME?
TIME?
YOU HAD A REMATCH OF SORTS?
YOU HAD A REMATCH OF SORTS?
HAD DON VARILY AND MICHAEL HAD DON VARILY AND MICHAEL CARVIN.
CARVIN.
VARILY GOT SOME CRITICISM FOR A VARILY GOT SOME CRITICISM FOR A PAUSE IN HIS ARGUMENT.
PAUSE IN HIS ARGUMENT.
THISTHERE ANY DIFFICULTIES THISTHERE ANY DIFFICULTIES TIME?
TIME?
SOLICITORVARILY, OUR SOLICITORVARILY, OUR GENERAL, WAS MUCH SMOOTHER, GENERAL, WAS MUCH SMOOTHER, JOSH, AND WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO JOSH, AND WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO HANDLE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS HANDLE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS PRETTY EASILY.
PRETTY EASILY.
THE CONSERVATIVES ARE ALWAYS THE THE CONSERVATIVES ARE ALWAYS THE ONES ON THE BENCH ONES ON THE BENCH DURING THESE THINGS AND HE WAS DURING THESE THINGS AND HE WAS QUESTIONSJOIN THEIR QUESTIONSJOIN THEIR MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST TIME MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST TIME AROUND AND MICHAEL CARVIN, FOR AROUND AND MICHAEL CARVIN, FOR TO OVERHEATED., HE DOES TEND TO OVERHEATED., HE DOES TEND HE HAS A VERY STRONG HE HAS A VERY STRONG IMPATIENTY, CAN BE IMPATIENTY, CAN BE AND AT ONE POINT JUSTICE SORD AND AT ONE POINT JUSTICE SORD A BREATH.
TAKE A BREATH.
TAKE >> PETE: WE GET THE ANSWER?
>> PETE: WE GET THE ANSWER?
JOAN: THEY VOTED ON FRIDAY, JOAN: THEY VOTED ON FRIDAY, TODAY.
TODAY.
SO THEY KNOW WHICH WAY THEY'RE SO THEY KNOW WHICH WAY THEY'RE INCLINED BUT AS JUSTICE KENNEDY INCLINED BUT AS JUSTICE KENNEDY GOT TO SEE IFTHEY GOT TO SEE IFTHEY IT WRITES.
IT WRITES.
PETE: THERE COULD BE CHANGING IN PETE: THERE COULD BE CHANGING IN RIGHT?
RIGHT?
IT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED LAST IT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED LAST NIGHT.
NIGHT.
WE'L KNOW IN JUNE.
WE'L KNOW IN JUNE.
WE LEARNED THIS WEEK THAT WHEN WE LEARNED THIS WEEK THAT WHEN WAS SECRETARY OF WAS SECRETARY OF STATE, SHE DID USE EMAIL ON THE STATE, SHE DID USE EMAIL ON THE JOB, JUST NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S.
JOB, JUST NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S.
HER OWN PRIVATE EMAIL HER OWN PRIVATE EMAIL ACCOUNT RUN THROUGH APPARENTLY ACCOUNT RUN THROUGH APPARENTLY SERVER AND DIDR SERVER AND DIDR SHE DO ANYTHING WRONG, JOSH?
SHE DO ANYTHING WRONG, JOSH?
JOSH: IT'S A TRICKY QUESTION.
JOSH: IT'S A TRICKY QUESTION.
THE FEDERAL RECORDS ACT AND THE FEDERAL RECORDS ACT AND THES IN PLACE ACROSS THES IN PLACE ACROSS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CREATE THIS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CREATE THIS PRESUMPTION THAT YOU HAVE TO PRESUMPTION THAT YOU HAVE TO SAVE RECORDS THAT ARE IMPORTANT SAVE RECORDS THAT ARE IMPORTANT ON YOUR PERSONAL ON YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER OR GOVERNMENT COMPUTER COMPUTER OR GOVERNMENT COMPUTER FORM.PAPER FORM.PAPER THE GOVERNMENT'S BEEN SLOW TO THE GOVERNMENT'S BEEN SLOW TO UPDATE THESE RULES AND LAWS FOR UPDATE THESE RULES AND LAWS FOR THE MODERN ERA.
THE MODERN ERA.
JUST LAST FALL THAT JUST LAST FALL THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA SIGNED A LAW PRESIDENT OBAMA SIGNED A LAW THAT ACTUALLY SAID YOU HAVE TO, THAT ACTUALLY SAID YOU HAVE TO, MOVE A PERSONAL MOVE A PERSONAL EMAIL INTO AN OFFICIAL ACCOUNT EMAIL INTO AN OFFICIAL ACCOUNT WITHIN 20 DAYS SO THE QUESTION WITHIN 20 DAYS SO THE QUESTION BEFORE, THAT COULD YOU DO BEFORE, THAT COULD YOU DO ANYTHING, WAS AN ANYTHING, WAS AN ANYTHING-GOES ENVIRONMENT?
ANYTHING-GOES ENVIRONMENT?
A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN SCOURING A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN SCOURING THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S REGULATIONS OVER THE LAST TWO REGULATIONS OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS AND FOUND A PHRASE SAYING DAYS AND FOUND A PHRASE SAYING THAT NORMAL DAY-TO-DAY THAT NORMAL DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED OPERATIONS HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED AN AUTHORIZED SYSTEM, THE AN AUTHORIZED SYSTEM, THE STATE DEPARTMENT SAYING THAT'S STATE DEPARTMENT SAYING THAT'S ONLY FOR SENSITIVE BUT ONLY FOR SENSITIVE BUT INFORMATION, MAYBE INFORMATION, MAYBE NOT ALL INFORMATION.
NOT ALL INFORMATION.
SO THERE'S A CONTINUING SO THERE'S A CONTINUING WRESTLING MATCH OVER
