>> THE HOUSE IN UPROAR TONIGHT, AS ITS SPEAKER LOSES A FIGHT AS ITS SPEAKER LOSES A FIGHT WITHIN HIS OWN CAUCUS.
WITHIN HIS OWN CAUCUS.
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ON PARADE.
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ON PARADE.
AND THE ISIS INTERVENTION AND THE ISIS INTERVENTION DILEMMA.
DILEMMA.
ALL TONIGHT, ON "WASHINGTON ALL TONIGHT, ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
WEEK."
ON CAPITOL HILL, THE CLOCK TICKS ON CAPITOL HILL, THE CLOCK TICKS DOWN AT THE DEPARTMENT OF DOWN AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
HOMELAND SECURITY.
>> THERE ARE CONCRETE, DRAMATIC >> THERE ARE CONCRETE, DRAMATIC CONSEQUENCES FOR THE HOMELAND CONSEQUENCES FOR THE HOMELAND SECURITY OF THIS NATION IF WE SECURITY OF THIS NATION IF WE ALLOW THE FUNDING OF THE ALLOW THE FUNDING OF THE DEPARTMENT TO LAPSE.
DEPARTMENT TO LAPSE.
GWEN: BUT CONGRESS, DIVIDED OVER GWEN: BUT CONGRESS, DIVIDED OVER DEBATES ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND DEBATES ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND EXECUTIVE POWER, CAN'T AGREE ON EXECUTIVE POWER, CAN'T AGREE ON HOW TO GET IT DONE.
HOW TO GET IT DONE.
>> YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE, BY >> YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE, BY NATURE AND BY DESIGN, IS A HELL NATURE AND BY DESIGN, IS A HELL OF A LOT MORE RAMBUNCTIOUS PLACE OF A LOT MORE RAMBUNCTIOUS PLACE THAN THE SENATE, MUCH MORE.
THAN THE SENATE, MUCH MORE.
GWEN: THE IS DILEMMA DEEPENS.
GWEN: THE IS DILEMMA DEEPENS.
>> THIS R. >> THIS R. GWEN: CREATING INSTABILITY FROM GWEN: CREATING INSTABILITY FROM IRAQ TO NIGERIA, AND NERVOUSNESS IRAQ TO NIGERIA, AND NERVOUSNESS IN AMERICA.
IN AMERICA.
>> I HAVE HOMEGROWN VIOLENT >> I HAVE HOMEGROWN VIOLENT EXTREMIST INVESTIGATIONS IN EXTREMIST INVESTIGATIONS IN EVERY SI S EVERY SI S GWEN: AS THE WORLD DEBATES WHAT GWEN: AS THE WORLD DEBATES WHAT TO DO NEXT.
TO DO NEXT.
AND REPUBLICAN AND REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFULS PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFULS DEBATE EXISTENTIAL AND DEBATE EXISTENTIAL AND POLITICAL THREATS.
POLITICAL THREATS.
>> I WANT A COMMANDER IN CHIEF >> I WANT A COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHO WILL DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR WHO WILL DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO ENSURE THAT THE THREAT POWER TO ENSURE THAT THE THREAT FROM RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS FROM RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS DOES NOT WASH UP ON AMERICAN DOES NOT WASH UP ON AMERICAN SOIL.
SOIL.
WE COULD HAVE HAD HILLARY HERE, WE COULD HAVE HAD HILLARY HERE, BUT WE COULDN'T FIND A FOREIGN BUT WE COULDN'T FIND A FOREIGN NATION TO FOOT THE BILL.
NATION TO FOOT THE BILL.
EDITOR OF TIME MAGAZINE.
EDITOR OF TIME MAGAZINE.
DAN BALZ, CHIEF DAN BALZ, CHIEF CORRESPONDENT FOR THE CORRESPONDENT FOR THE WASHINGTON POST.
WASHINGTON POST.
JUANA SUMMERS, JUANA SUMMERS, CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER FOR NPR.
FOR NPR.
AND JOHN HARWOOD, CHIEF AND JOHN HARWOOD, CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT FOR CNBC.
FOR CNBC.
>> AWARD WNING REPORNG AND >> AWARD WNING REPORNG AND ANALYSIS COVERING HISTORY AS IT ANALYSIS COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITOL, LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITOL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK" WITH THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK" WITH GWEN IFILL.
>> ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER WAS ON THE BOEHNER WAS ON THE RECEIVING END OF A RECEIVING END OF A HEARTY SLAPDOWN LATE HEARTY SLAPDOWN LATE THIS AFTERNOON AS 52 THIS AFTERNOON AS 52 REPUBLICANS JOINED THE REPUBLICANS JOINED THE VAST MAJORITY OF VAST MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS TO REJECT A DEMOCRATS TO REJECT A STOPGAP PLAN TO FUND THE STOPGAP PLAN TO FUND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY BEFORE A SECURITY BEFORE A REPUBLICANS WANTED TO FORCE REPUBLICANS WANTED TO FORCE DEMOCRATS TO BACK DOWN ON G.O.P.
DEMOCRATS TO BACK DOWN ON G.O.P.
IMMIGRATION REFORM PROVISIONS IMMIGRATION REFORM PROVISIONS ATTACHED TO THE BILL.
ATTACHED TO THE BILL.
BEFORE TODAY'S VOTE, BOEHNER BEFORE TODAY'S VOTE, BOEHNER SAID SENATE DEMOCRATS WERE TO SAID SENATE DEMOCRATS WERE TO BLAME.
BLAME.
>> I JUST THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUS >> I JUST THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUS THAT SENATE DEMOCRATS ARE USING THAT SENATE DEMOCRATS ARE USING HOMELAND SECURITY FUNDING FOR HOMELAND SECURITY FUNDING FOR BLACKMAIL TO PROTECT THE ACTIONS BLACKMAIL TO PROTECT THE ACTIONS OF THE PRESIDENT, WHERE THE OF THE PRESIDENT, WHERE THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF SAID HE DIDN'T PRESIDENT HIMSELF SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.
GWEN: BUT IN THE END, THE GWEN: BUT IN THE END, THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY COULD NOT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY COULD NOT MUSTER THE VOTES FOR BOEHNER'S MUSTER THE VOTES FOR BOEHNER'S COMPROMISE -- A THREE-WEEK COMPROMISE -- A THREE-WEEK EXTENSION.
EXTENSION.
PERHAPS THAT'S BECAUSE PERHAPS THAT'S BECAUSE THE THREATENED SHUTDOWN THE THREATENED SHUTDOWN WOULD REALLY NOT SHUT WOULD REALLY NOT SHUT ANYTHING DOWN.
ANYTHING DOWN.
JOHN HARWOOD SPOKE JOHN HARWOOD SPOKE EARLIER TODAY WITH EARLIER TODAY WITH REPUBLICAN SENATOR ORRIN REPUBLICAN SENATOR ORRIN H. H. >> SOME OF THE EXECUTIVES WILL >> SOME OF THE EXECUTIVES WILL HAVE TO WORK AND GET PAID LATER.
HAVE TO WORK AND GET PAID LATER.
BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY SELF-FUNDED.
SELF-FUNDED.
SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A BIG FUSS ABOUT THAT REALLY BIG FUSS ABOUT THAT REALLY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET, DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET, DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE SELF-FUNDING MECHANISM OF D.H.S.
SELF-FUNDING MECHANISM OF D.H.S.
OR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND OR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
SECURITY.
GWEN: BUT OPTICS MATTER, AND IT GWEN: BUT OPTICS MATTER, AND IT MAY NOT MATTER IF HATCH IS MAY NOT MATTER IF HATCH IS RIGHT.
RIGHT.
JOHN.
JOHN.
POLITICAL THAN ONUCH MORE LIKE POLITICAL THAN ONUCH MORE LIKE AMERICAN SECURITY.
AMERICAN SECURITY.
REPUBLICANS ARE NOT GOING TO BE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT GOING TO BE DEMOCRATS.ME THIS ON DEMOCRATS.ME THIS ON THEY OFFICIALLY MADE THIS THE THEY OFFICIALLY MADE THIS THE STRATEGY WHEN THEY WERE FUNDING STRATEGY WHEN THEY WERE FUNDING THE GOVERNMENT LAST FALL OR THE GOVERNMENT LAST FALL OR ELECTION.LAST ELECTION.LAST THEY FUNDED THE ENTIRE REST OF THEY FUNDED THE ENTIRE REST OF THE GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 EXCEPT FOR THE SEPTEMBER 30 EXCEPT FOR THE HOMELAND SECURITY.
HOMELAND SECURITY.
GWEN: THERE WOULD NOT BE A GWEN: THERE WOULD NOT BE A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.
ENTIRE GOVERNMENT.
ENTIRE GOVERNMENT.
ECK POLIC ECK POLICE ITALY FOR ECK POLIC ECK POLICE ITALY FOR PURPOSE.
PURPOSE.
IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO THE NORMAL THINGS YOU WHEN A THE NORMAL THINGS YOU WHEN A IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS AND PUGH RESEARCH TOOK A POLL AND PUGH RESEARCH TOOK A POLL AND SAID IS EITHER PARTY TOO AND SAID IS EITHER PARTY TOO EXTREME.
EXTREME.
REPUBLICANSAID P REPUBLICANSAID P ARE TOOENCE TEAM AND 36% SAID RY ARE TOOENCE TEAM AND 36% SAID RY TO 2016.
TO 2016.
ENS TAKE THIS APART.
ENS TAKE THIS APART.
BIGGESTBLICANS HAVE THE BIGGESTBLICANS HAVE THE MARRIAGITY MARGIN IN 7 -- MARRIAGITY MARGIN IN 7 -- MAJORITY MARGIN IN 70 YEARS.
MAJORITY MARGIN IN 70 YEARS.
TODAY, 52 PEOPLE VOTED AGAINST TODAY, 52 PEOPLE VOTED AGAINST THIS.
THIS.
WHAT HAPPENED?
WHAT HAPPENED?
HOW DID IT FALL APART?
HOW DID IT FALL APART?
>> AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THEY >> AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THEY SEPARATED THE DEPARTMENT OF SEPARATED THE DEPARTMENT OF WANTING SECURITY AND WANTING SECURITY AND THAT FUNDED TO EXPIRE NOW AFTER THAT FUNDED TO EXPIRE NOW AFTER THEY HAVE EXPANDED CONTROL OF THEY HAVE EXPANDED CONTROL OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND CONTROL OF THE CONTROL OF THE SENATE AND STILL COULDN'T GET SENATE AND STILL COULDN'T GET THERE.
THERE.
THE FIRST PROBLEM WITH WHAT THE FIRST PROBLEM WITH WHAT TODAY WAS MATH.
TODAY WAS MATH.
JOHN BOEHNER AND THE TEAM JOHN BOEHNER AND THE TEAM UNDERESTIMATED JUST HOW STRONGLY UNDERESTIMATED JUST HOW STRONGLY SOME CONSERVATIVES FELT.
SOME CONSERVATIVES FELT.
I THINE I THINE POTENTIALLY HELP POTENTIALLY HELP THEM OUT ON THIS ONE EVEN IF THEM OUT ON THIS ONE EVEN IF THEY HAD MORE DEFECTIONS THAN THEY HAD MORE DEFECTIONS THAN ESTIMATED BUT THAT DIDN'T ESTIMATED BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
HAPPEN.
HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP WAS HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP WAS OUTRIGHT WHIPPING AGAINST THE OUTRIGHT WHIPPING AGAINST THE PELL PRESSURING MEMBERS TO KIND PELL PRESSURING MEMBERS TO KIND OF HOLD BACK AND HOLD THEIR FIRE OF HOLD BACK AND HOLD THEIR FIRE GIVE IN AND JOIN WITH GIVE IN AND JOIN WITH THEM.
THEM.
A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM DEMOCRATS ON THE SPENDING FROM DEMOCRATS ON THE SPENDING PAST.IN THE PAST.IN THE TYPICALLY ON THE BRINK OF THE TYPICALLY ON THE BRINK OF THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AND GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AND DEMOCRATS COME AND HELP DEMOCRATS COME AND HELP OUT IN THE 11TH HOUR OUT IN THE 11TH HOUR BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED IS WHY WE ARE 1 IS WHY WE ARE 1 WE ARE NOW.
WE ARE NOW.
GWEN: THE SENATE PASSED A CLEAN GWEN: THE SENATE PASSED A CLEAN BILLEY CALL IMMIGRATION BILLEY CALL IMMIGRATION WITH STUFF IN IT.
WITH STUFF IN IT.
WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CAUCUSES.
CAUCUSES.
>> MITCH MCCONNELL HAS BUNCH OF >> MITCH MCCONNELL HAS BUNCH OF MEMBERS IN STATES THAT AREN'T IS MEMBERS IN STATES THAT AREN'T IS FORERVATIVE WHO ARE UP FORERVATIVE WHO ARE UP REELECTION IN 2016 TO DON'T WANT REELECTION IN 2016 TO DON'T WANT CALLED OUT AS RESPONSIBLE CALLED OUT AS RESPONSIBLE SHUTDOWN DOWN LIKE THIS.
SHUTDOWN DOWN LIKE THIS.
OTHER IS THE HOUSE IS MORE OTHER IS THE HOUSE IS MORE SENATE ANDTHAN THE SENATE ANDTHAN THE JOHN BOEHNER HAS CAUCUS THAT IS JOHN BOEHNER HAS CAUCUS THAT IS ON FIRE FOR WHAT IT CONSIDERS ON FIRE FOR WHAT IT CONSIDERS CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES AND HE CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES AND HE CAN'T CONTROL THEM.
CAN'T CONTROL THEM.
AEN: WHICH COWED HAVEN'T BEEN AEN: WHICH COWED HAVEN'T BEEN SURPRISE, THOUGH?
SURPRISE, THOUGH?
>> AS MUCH AS THIS IS ALARMING >> AS MUCH AS THIS IS ALARMING GIVE THAN WE HAVE JUST WHAT IS GIVE THAN WE HAVE JUST WHAT IS IT NOW LESS THAN FOUR HOURS IT NOW LESS THAN FOUR HOURS UNTIL THE DEPARTMENT RUNS OUT UNTIL THE DEPARTMENT RUNS OUT GWEN: EAST COAST TIME.
GWEN: EAST COAST TIME.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
SURPRISE.H WARRAN ISN'T A HUGE SURPRISE.H WARRAN ISN'T A HUGE YOU CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT THE YOU CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE IN THE CAUCUS AND HEARING PEOPLE IN THE CAUCUS AND HEARING NOT THEY ARE SAYING THIS IS NOT THEY ARE SAYING THIS IS GOING DOWN A GOOD ROAD.
GOING DOWN A GOOD ROAD.
HE NVER ACTUALLY CAME OUT AND HE NVER ACTUALLY CAME OUT AND FLAN ABOUT SUPPORTING THE FLAN ABOUT SUPPORTING THE SENATE MARRIAGIT MAJORITY LEADEL SENATE MARRIAGIT MAJORITY LEADEL SAID.
SAID.
HE SAID REPEATEDLY THE HOUSE HAS HE SAID REPEATEDLY THE HOUSE HAS DONE ITS JOB AND TIME FORTUNATE DONE ITS JOB AND TIME FORTUNATE DO ITS JOB.
DO ITS JOB.
INTERESTING WATCHING THE INTERESTING WATCHING THE BODY LANGUAGE AND WHAT IS BODY LANGUAGE AND WHAT IS LEADERS THISY OUR LEADERS THISY OUR SNEAK AT THE HEART OF THE FIGHT SNEAK AT THE HEART OF THE FIGHT IS A -- AT THE HEART OF THE IS A -- AT THE HEART OF THE FIGHT IS A DISPUTE ABOUT THE FIGHT IS A DISPUTE ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES PRESIDENT'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES WHICH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEK WHICH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEK VS. BEEN MOVED INTO THE COURTS VS. BEEN MOVED INTO THE COURTS AND THE COURTS ARE GOING TO AND THE COURTS ARE GOING TO DECIDE THE FUTURE OFT.
DECIDE THE FUTURE OFT.
THAT GAVE BOTH HOUSES OF THAT GAVE BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS AND BOTH PARTIES AN OUT CONGRESS AND BOTH PARTIES AN OUT THE WAY I ALWAYS IMAGINE AND THE WAY I ALWAYS IMAGINE AND THEY COULD SAY WELL THE COURTS THEY COULD SAY WELL THE COURTS DECIDE SOTH SO PERHAPS WE DECIDE SOTH SO PERHAPS WE CAN MOVE TON OTHER THINGS.
CAN MOVE TON OTHER THINGS.
WAS THAT NOT SEEN AS A POSSIBLE WAS THAT NOT SEEN AS A POSSIBLE EXIT?
EXIT?
>> IT WAS BY SOME.
>> IT WAS BY SOME.
WAS AN OUT SAID THAT WAS AN OUT SAID THAT FOR REPUBLICANS AND THEY SHOULD FOR REPUBLICANS AND THEY SHOULD THEIR JOB.RTS DO THEIR JOB.RTS DO MEMBERS OFHAM BECK TH BEGGED MEMBERS OFHAM BECK TH BEGGED THE PARTY TO TAKE THE LIFELINE THE PARTY TO TAKE THE LIFELINE FROM THE COURTS.
FROM THE COURTS.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHOSE VIEW OF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHOSE VIEW OF AND THEIR VIEW AND THEIR VIEW OF HOW HE IS USING HIS POWER AS OF HOW HE IS USING HIS POWER AS DOSIDENT THEY THINK IF THEY DOSIDENT THEY THINK IF THEY ANYTHING SEEMS T SEEMS SEEMS TON ANYTHING SEEMS T SEEMS SEEMS TON POWER AS THE PRESIDENTS POWER AS THE PRESIDENTS PURSUING IT MAKES THEM A PURSUING IT MAKES THEM A RENEGADE TO THE CAUSE.
RENEGADE TO THE CAUSE.
GOING TO TOLERATE GOING TO TOLERATE IT.
IT.
>> WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT >> WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT THE SPEAKER THAT WE ALREADY KNEW THE SPEAKER THAT WE ALREADY KNEW DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT?
DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT?
AND SECONDLY GOING FORWARD AND SECONDLY GOING FORWARD LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FIGHTS LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FIGHTS LATER IN THE ARE WE LATER IN THE ARE WE HEADED?
HEADED?
>> IT IS NOT A PARTICULARLY GOOD >> IT IS NOT A PARTICULARLY GOOD ROAD AND I THINK IN YOU ARE A ROAD AND I THINK IN YOU ARE A MEMBER OF JOHN BOEHNER'S MEMBER OF JOHN BOEHNER'S LEADERSHIP TEAM OR THE SPEAKER LEADERSHIP TEAM OR THE SPEAKER YOURSELF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY.
YOURSELF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY.
ANOTHER CASE OF BOEHNER BEING ANOTHER CASE OF BOEHNER BEING TESTED.
TESTED.
THEY HAVE THE NEW REPUBLICAN THEY HAVE THE NEW REPUBLICAN THE MANDATE WHERE THE MANDATE WHERE THEY SAID THEY WILL GOVERN AND THEY SAID THEY WILL GOVERN AND STOP HAVING THE SPATS AND HERE STOP HAVING THE SPATS AND HERE HAVING ANOTHER HAVING ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT REPUBLICANS DISCUSSION ABOUT REPUBLICANS PAINTING THEMSELVES PAINTING THEMSELVES CORNER.
CORNER.
>> DON'T SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY ON >> DON'T SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY ON TAX REFORM.NSWER.
TAX REFORM.NSWER.
TIME WE GET TO THE TIME WE GET TO THE WEST COAST HERE THIS MAY BE WEST COAST HERE THIS MAY BE RESOLVED.
RESOLVED.
IS A PATH FORWARD TO IS A PATH FORWARD TO RESHOVEL OR ANYTHING, A PLAN C?
RESHOVEL OR ANYTHING, A PLAN C?
WHEN I'T SOUND LIKE ONE WHEN I'T SOUND LIKE ONE LEFT THE HILL AN HOUR OR SOGO LEFT THE HILL AN HOUR OR SOGO THE MOST LIKELY OPTION OF THOSE THE MOST LIKELY OPTION OF THOSE ON THE PLATE IS THAT HOUSE ON THE PLATE IS THAT HOUSE LEADERSHIP WILL START ASKING LEADERSHIP WILL START ASKING CONTINUINGUT A 7-DAY CONTINUINGUT A 7-DAY RESOLUTION.
RESOLUTION.
SO GIVE THEM ONE MORE WEEK TO SO GIVE THEM ONE MORE WEEK TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT.
FIGURE IT ALL OUT.
SAID OF MEMBERS STILL HAVE SAID OF MEMBERS STILL HAVE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE APPETITE FOR THAT.
APPETITE FOR THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON WE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON TOTHING THAT IS NOT GOING TOTHING THAT IS NOT GOING DEAL WITH THE ACTIONS ON DEAL WITH THE ACTIONS ON IMMIGRATION WHICH IS AT THE IMMIGRATION WHICH IS AT THE CORE.
CORE.
ACTION ISEXECUTIVE ACTION ISEXECUTIVE PART OF WHAT IS DRIVING THIS.
PART OF WHAT IS DRIVING THIS.
>> AT SOME POINT, JOHN BOEHNER >> AT SOME POINT, JOHN BOEHNER COULD WHAT HE DID IN COULD WHAT HE DID IN THE FISCAL CLIFF SHOWDOWN WHEN THE FISCAL CLIFF SHOWDOWN WHEN HIS ALTERNATIVE WAS SMACKED DOWN HIS ALTERNATIVE WAS SMACKED DOWN HIS OWN CAUCUS AND THAT IS TO HIS OWN CAUCUS AND THAT IS TO PUT EVEN FLOOR A PLAN THAT THE PUT EVEN FLOOR A PLAN THAT THE MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS DON'T MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS DON'T SUPPORT AND VIOLATE THE SO SUPPORT AND VIOLATE THE SO LET ITHASTERT RULE AND LET ITHASTERT RULE AND BASS SOME REPUBLICANS AND WHOLE BASS SOME REPUBLICANS AND WHOLE LOT OF DEMOCRATS.
LOT OF DEMOCRATS.
WORK.OUT THAT COULD WORK.OUT THAT COULD OF SOME FLIC FLICK TERMS OF HOLG OF SOME FLIC FLICK TERMS OF HOLG SPEAKERSHIP.
SPEAKERSHIP.
>> CAN I ASK YOU A POLITICAL >> CAN I ASK YOU A POLITICAL QUESTION.
QUESTION.
AS WE LOOK FORWARD 2016, I KNOW AS WE LOOK FORWARD 2016, I KNOW THE ASSUMPTION IS THE ASSUMPTION IS THIS IS SUCH MESS THAT THE THIS IS SUCH MESS THAT THE FOR HURT FORILL GET LUTER FOR HURT FORILL GET LUTER IT.
IT.
BACK ATLL BE RIGHT BACK ATLL BE RIGHT WHAT HAPPENED AND THEY LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AND THEY LOOK AT WHAT HAPPEN IN THE ELECTION AND WHAT HAPPEN IN THE ELECTION AND DIDN'T HURT US AS ALL.
DIDN'T HURT US AS ALL.
DO THEY COME INTO THE FIGHT WITH DO THEY COME INTO THE FIGHT WITH OF THEHAT DIFFERENT VIEW OF THEHAT DIFFERENT VIEW POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES THAN THE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES THAN THE WISDOM SUGGS?
WISDOM SUGGS?
>> THEY DO.
>> THEY DO.
ELECTION INTIAL ELECTION INTIAL 2016 IS NOT CONDUCTED JUST IN 2016 IS NOT CONDUCTED JUST IN ANDNSAS AND LOUISIANA ANDNSAS AND LOUISIANA MISSISSIPPI AND REDS WHERE MISSISSIPPI AND REDS WHERE PLACE.ATE ELECTIONS TOOK PLACE.ATE ELECTIONS TOOK REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT TO TAKE REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MANY RISKS TO THAT 2016 THAT TOO MANY RISKS TO THAT 2016 THAT WILL BE LIKE 2014.
WILL BE LIKE 2014.
GWEN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GWEN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TALK ABOUT 2016.
TALK ABOUT 2016.
JUST OUTSIDE WASHINGTON, TRAIL JUST OUTSIDE WASHINGTON, TRAIL OF SENATORS, PRESENT AND FORMER, OF SENATORS, PRESENT AND FORMER, GOVERNORS PRESENT AND FORMER, GOVERNORS PRESENT AND FORMER, AND A BUSINESS EXECUTIVE OR TWO, AND A BUSINESS EXECUTIVE OR TWO, HAVE BEEN PUNCHING THEIR TICKETS HAVE BEEN PUNCHING THEIR TICKETS AT THE CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL AT THE CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE CONFERENCE, ONE ACTION COMMITTEE CONFERENCE, ONE OF THE MUST-VISIT STOPS ON THE OF THE MUST-VISIT STOPS ON THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY TRAIL.
REPUBLICAN PRIMARY TRAIL.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THERE WAS A LOT OF CHEERING, A LITTLE CHEERING, A LITTLE BOOING, AND A COUPLE OF BOOING, AND A COUPLE OF CLEAR TARGETS -- CLEAR TARGETS -- PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HILLARY CLINTON.
HILLARY CLINTON.
>> PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS >> PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS DISQUALIFIED HIMSELF.
DISQUALIFIED HIMSELF.
HE'S SHOWN HIMSELF INCAPABLE OF HE'S SHOWN HIMSELF INCAPABLE OF BEING OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
BEING OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
>> I BELIEVE HILLARY CLINTON'S >> I BELIEVE HILLARY CLINTON'S ABDICATION OF RESPONSIBILITY, ABDICATION OF RESPONSIBILITY, HER REFUSAL TO PROVIDE AN HER REFUSAL TO PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE DEFENSE FOR BENGHAZI, ADEQUATE DEFENSE FOR BENGHAZI, HER DERELICTION OF DUTY SHOULD HER DERELICTION OF DUTY SHOULD FOREVER PRECLUDE HER FROM HIGHER FOREVER PRECLUDE HER FROM HIGHER OFFICE.
OFFICE.
>> HILLARY CLINTON EMBODIES THE >> HILLARY CLINTON EMBODIES THE CORRUPTION OF WASHINGTON.
CORRUPTION OF WASHINGTON.
WE NEED TO TAKE THE POWER OUT OF WE NEED TO TAKE THE POWER OUT OF WASHINGTON AND BRING IT BACK TO WASHINGTON AND BRING IT BACK TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
GWEN: ALSO, CHRIS CHRISTIE WAS GWEN: ALSO, CHRIS CHRISTIE WAS ASKED WHY HE WAS TRAILING IN THE ASKED WHY HE WAS TRAILING IN THE POLLS, AND MARCO RUBIO AND RICK POLLS, AND MARCO RUBIO AND RICK AND ON IT GOES.
ON IMMIGRATION.
AND ON IT GOES.
ON IMMIGRATION.
A LOT OF FOLKS RUNNING FOR A LOT OF FOLKS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT.
TAKE, DAN?R TAKE, DAN?R >> SO MANY SPEECHES AND >> SO MANY SPEECHES AND ACTIVISTS AND A LOT OF STORY ACTIVISTS AND A LOT OF STORY CONFLICTING.
CONFLICTING.
I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SEVERAL.
I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SEVERAL.
SHOW, AS THESE COMMENTS SHOW, AS THESE COMMENTS FOREIGN POLICY IS NOW THE MAIN FOREIGN POLICY IS NOW THE MAIN ATTACK LINE BY REPUBLICANS ATTACK LINE BY REPUBLICANS RUN FOR PRESIDENT RUN FOR PRESIDENT AGAINST THIS ADMINISTRATION.
AGAINST THIS ADMINISTRATION.
FOR TWO REASONS.
FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, THERE IS LESS CONSENSUS ON ONE, THERE IS LESS CONSENSUS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ABOUT ECONOMIC ISSUES.
ECONOMIC ISSUES.
THERE IS A REAL DEBATE IN THE THERE IS A REAL DEBATE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ABOUT NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY ABOUT NEW POLICIES HAND THEPOLICIES AND WO POLICIES HAND THEPOLICIES AND WO BE.
BE.
SECOND REASON IS THAT SECOND REASON IS THAT ATTACKS ON FOREIGN POLICY MAKE ATTACKS ON FOREIGN POLICY MAKE EASIER TO LOOP IN HILL LALY HIY EASIER TO LOOP IN HILL LALY HIY CLINTON TO THE CRITICISM.
CLINTON TO THE CRITICISM.
THE ISSUE WITH THE PRESIDENT NOT THE ISSUE WITH THE PRESIDENT NOT WILLING TO CALL ISIS WILLING TO CALL ISIS RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM HAS IN RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM HAS IN FLAMED THE CONSERVATIVE BASE OF FLAMED THE CONSERVATIVE BASE OF PARTY AND IT OPES UP A LINE PARTY AND IT OPES UP A LINE OF ATTACK THAT ALL OF THE OF ATTACK THAT ALL OF THE CANDIDATES ARE COMFORTABLE CANDIDATES ARE COMFORTABLE MAKING.
MAKING.
THE ARGUMENT BEING IF YOU CAN'T THE ARGUMENT BEING IF YOU CAN'T NONTIFY THE ENEMY THERE IS NONTIFY THE ENEMY THERE IS WAY YOU CAN DEFEAT THE ENEMY.
WAY YOU CAN DEFEAT THE ENEMY.
VIEWRESIDENT HAS DIFFERENT VIEWRESIDENT HAS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS BUT NONETHELESS IT ABOUT THIS BUT NONETHELESS IT THERES.
THERES.
PARTISAN SPLITHE PARTISAN SPLITHE WITH REGARD TO THE RELATIONS WITH REGARD TO THE RELATIONS ISRAEL.
STATE OF ISRAEL.
STATE OF PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU WILL BE PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU WILL BE INVITATIONEEK AT THE INVITATIONEEK AT THE OF THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.
OF THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.
THE DEMOCRATS AND PRESIDENT ARE THE DEMOCRATS AND PRESIDENT ARE UPSET ABOUT THIS.
UPSET ABOUT THIS.
RICE SAID THIS IS A RICE SAID THIS IS A DESTRUCTIVE ACT.
DESTRUCTIVE ACT.
TO THE TOGETHER HAVE GIVEN THE TO THE TOGETHER HAVE GIVEN THE REPUBLICANS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPUBLICANS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY.
TALK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY.
IS ONE.
IS ONE.
I THINK A SECOND IS THAT WHEN I THINK A SECOND IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FIELD YOU CAN'T YOU LOOK AT THIS FIELD YOU CAN'T BUT SAY TO YOURSELF, THIS BUT SAY TO YOURSELF, THIS IS A MUCH STRONGER POTENTIAL IS A MUCH STRONGER POTENTIAL FIELD OF FIELD OF REPUBLICANS HAD RUNNING IN 2012 REPUBLICANS HAD RUNNING IN 2012 AND YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE A AND YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE A FORMEROF GOVERNORS AND FORMEROF GOVERNORS AND GOVERNORS ALL WITH RECORDS AND A GOVERNORS ALL WITH RECORDS AND A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AT LEAST LOT OF EXPERIENCE AT LEAST DOMESTICALLY.
DOMESTICALLY.
HAVE A NUMBER OF FIRST TERM HAVE A NUMBER OF FIRST TERM SENATORS.
SENATORS.
PUT ASIDE THE QUESTION OF THE PUT ASIDE THE QUESTION OF THE EXPERIENCE.
EXPERIENCE.
NONETHELESS, SOME VERY NONETHELESS, SOME VERY BRIGHT LIGHTS WHO ARE ALSO IN BRIGHT LIGHTS WHO ARE ALSO IN THIS.
THIS.
AN IDELOGICAL AN IDELOGICAL GENERATIONAL FIGHT GENERATIONAL FIGHT AND THE THIRD IS IT IS JUST A AND THE THIRD IS IT IS JUST A REMIND OF HOW WIDE OPEN THIS REMIND OF HOW WIDE OPEN THIS RACE IS.
RACE IS.
EMPHASIS ON FOREIGN EMPHASIS ON FOREIGN TOICY DID YOU GET ANY CLUES TOICY DID YOU GET ANY CLUES HOW SALABLE RAND PAUL'S VIEWS HOW SALABLE RAND PAUL'S VIEWS WHICH ARE DIFFERENT THAN THOSE WHICH ARE DIFFERENT THAN THOSE RIVALS FOR THE NOMINATION RIVALS FOR THE NOMINATION ARE GOING TO DO?
ARE GOING TO DO?
>> A TOUGHER AUDIENCE.
>> A TOUGHER AUDIENCE.
IT IS YOUNGER AND MORE IT IS YOUNGER AND MORE LIBERTARIAN AND A RAND PAUL LIBERTARIAN AND A RAND PAUL AUDIENCE.
AUDIENCE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THAT -- IN THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THAT -- IN MOREBALLROOM WHO ARE MOREBALLROOM WHO ARE INCLINED TO BE RECEPTIVE HIM.
INCLINED TO BE RECEPTIVE HIM.
CHEERLY GOING TO BE A LINE OF CHEERLY GOING TO BE A LINE OF IS THE ONE AREA IS THE ONE AREA YOU N SEE ON THE FOREIGN YOU N SEE ON THE FOREIGN POLICY DISCUSSION IN WHICH THERE POLICY DISCUSSION IN WHICH THERE BEGINNINGDIFFERENCE BEGINNINGDIFFERENCE TO EMERGE.
TO EMERGE.
>> I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT JEB >> I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT JEB BUSH.
BUSH.
SELL THERE?
SELL THERE?
JEB IN THELIVE JEB IN THELIVE LION'S ZEN.
LION'S ZEN.
THE CONSERVATIVES ARE TO PUT IT THE CONSERVATIVES ARE TO PUT IT MILDLY SKEPTICAL OF JEB BUSH.
MILDLY SKEPTICAL OF JEB BUSH.
>> HE SEEMED KIND OF ENERGIZED.
>> HE SEEMED KIND OF ENERGIZED.
>> HE WAS.
>> HE WAS.
THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME THEY CHANGED THE FORMAT.
THEY CHANGED THE FORMAT.
USED TO BE YOU JUST CAME IN AND USED TO BE YOU JUST CAME IN AND GAVE A SPEECH AND TRIED TO THROW GAVE A SPEECH AND TRIED TO THROW AND GET TO THE CROWD AND GET TO THE CROWD APPLAUSE LINES.
APPLAUSE LINES.
IS ALL IS ALL PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES COULD PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES COULD A SPEECH BUT THEY ALSO HAD A SPEECH BUT THEY ALSO HAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THEY HAD THE OPTION OF ONLY THEY HAD THE OPTION OF ONLY QUESTIONS AND JEB BUSH QUESTIONS AND JEB BUSH DECIDED TO DO THAT.
DECIDED TO DO THAT.
SO HE WAS INTERVIEWED FOR 20 SO HE WAS INTERVIEWED FOR 20 MINUTES BY SEAN HANNITY.
MINUTES BY SEAN HANNITY.
HE WAS ENGAGING.
HE WAS ENGAGING.
I THOUGHT HE DID PRETTY WELL I THOUGHT HE DID PRETTY WELL IN AUDIENCE.
IN AUDIENCE.
SOME BOOING WHEN HE ARRIVEDE SOME BOOING WHEN HE ARRIVEDE LOT OF APPLAUSE.
LOT OF APPLAUSE.
THEY KIND OF PACKED THE ROOM THEY KIND OF PACKED THE ROOM WITH SUPPORTERS.
WITH SUPPORTERS.
>> THE FORMAT SEEMED TO SUIT >> THE FORMAT SEEMED TO SUIT HIM.
HIM.
>> HE IS MORE COMFORTABLE IN >> HE IS MORE COMFORTABLE IN THAT.
THAT.
LOW ED THE BAR IN A SENSE ON THE LOW ED THE BAR IN A SENSE ON THE METER.E METER.E CO-SHOW OFF HIS KNOWLEDGE OF CO-SHOW OFF HIS KNOWLEDGE OF THINGS.
THINGS.
HE GOT TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT HE GOT TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMON CORE AGED GREA AND IMMIG.
COMMON CORE AGED GREA AND IMMIG.
GROUND.
GROUND.
ABLE TO POINT OUT ON EDUCATION ABLE TO POINT OUT ON EDUCATION THE CONSERVATIVE THINGS HE HAS THE CONSERVATIVE THINGS HE HAS SUPPORTING SUPPORTING COMMON CORE.
COMMON CORE.
DID HE PRETTY WELL.
DID HE PRETTY WELL.
>> SOUNDS LIKE THEY FOUND THE >> SOUNDS LIKE THEY FOUND THE POLY OR ECONOMICSGT FOREIGN POLY OR ECONOMICSGT FOREIGN IT IS A FORMER SECRETARY OF IT IS A FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE.
STATE.
>> THEY THINK SHE MIGHT BE THE >> THEY THINK SHE MIGHT BE THE NOMINEE.
NOMINEE.
LOOMED VOTERW SHE LOOMED VOTERW SHE THIS OR DID SHE NOT?
THIS OR DID SHE NOT?
>> SHE LOOMS LARGE OVER EVERY >> SHE LOOMS LARGE OVER EVERY GATHERING AT THIS GATHERING AT THIS POINT BU.
POINT BU.
DOING HER DOING HER PREPARATION.
PREPARATION.
SHE WAS IN SILICON VALLEY THIS SHE WAS IN SILICON VALLEY THIS WEEK.
WEEK.
MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT MUCH REGARD TO THEM.
MUCH REGARD TO THEM.
>> NO OBSTACLES TO HER MOVING >> NO OBSTACLES TO HER MOVING THE MOMENT.
THE MOMENT.
>> THERE ARE MANY.
>> THERE ARE MANY.
>> AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THEM >> AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THEM IN THE WEBCAST.
IN THE WEBCAST.
MOVE ON.
MOVE ON.
GWEN: ONE OF THE GOALS OF ALL GWEN: ONE OF THE GOALS OF ALL THOSE WOULD-BE CANDIDATES WAS TO THOSE WOULD-BE CANDIDATES WAS TO PROVE THEY CAN HANDLE FOREIGN PROVE THEY CAN HANDLE FOREIGN POLICY.
POLICY.
AND PERHAPS ONE OF THE AND PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT MOST DIFFICULT CHALLENGES THEY FACE CHALLENGES THEY FACE WILL BE THIS -- WILL BE THIS -- HOW TO FACE DOWN A FOE HOW TO FACE DOWN A FOE THAT DERIVES ITS THAT DERIVES ITS STRENGTH FROM THE STRENGTH FROM THE ABILITY TO PROVOKE, ABILITY TO PROVOKE, WHETHER THROUGH WHETHER THROUGH ABDUCTION OR EXECUTION, ABDUCTION OR EXECUTION, OR SUDDEN, BLOODY OR SUDDEN, BLOODY CARNAGE?
CARNAGE?
THE OPTIONS ARE LIMITED.
THE OPTIONS ARE LIMITED.
BOOTS ON THE GROUND?
BOOTS ON THE GROUND?
BOMBS FROM THE AIR?
BOMBS FROM THE AIR?
NEGOTIATION AROUND THE NEGOTIATION AROUND THE EDGES?
EDGES?
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS RAISED ON THE COVER OF RAISED ON THE COVER OF THIS WEEK'S TIME THIS WEEK'S TIME MAGAZINE.
MAGAZINE.
DID YOU ALL COME UP WITH ANY DID YOU ALL COME UP WITH ANY ANSWERS, MICHAEL?
ANSWERS, MICHAEL?
NO BOOTS YET.
NO BOOTS YET.
MORE ABE AI AIR STRIKES AND MANE MORE ABE AI AIR STRIKES AND MANE COME.
COME.
THOSE WILL BE THE QUESTIONS AS THOSE WILL BE THE QUESTIONS AS THE U.S.
PREPARE PREPARES TO LAE THE U.S.
PREPARE PREPARES TO LAE THE SECOND BIGGEST CITY IN THE SECOND BIGGEST CITY IN IRAQ.
IRAQ.
COMING IN APRIL AND MAY.
COMING IN APRIL AND MAY.
MOSUL.N MOSUL.N >> 25,000 TROUPES.
>> 25,000 TROUPES.
NO AMERICANS EXCEPT AT THE NO AMERICANS EXCEPT AT THE OR 3,000.AYBE 2,000 OR 3,000.AYBE 2,000 KURDS ANDOALITION OF KURDS ANDOALITION OF ANDIAN LINKED SHEA MILITIAS ANDIAN LINKED SHEA MILITIAS THE U.S.
FORCES AT EDGES GUIDING THE U.S.
FORCES AT EDGES GUIDING LEADING AND IN THE AIR.
LEADING AND IN THE AIR.
WEEK WHEN THE U.S. WEEK WHEN THE U.S. HAS BECOME INCREDIBLY HAS BECOME INCREDIBLY TRANSPARENT AND TALKED ABOUT HOW TRANSPARENT AND TALKED ABOUT HOW TO DOMESTICALLY IT AND TO DOMESTICALLY IT AND WHO WILL BE THERE -- WHO WILL DO WHO WILL BE THERE -- WHO WILL DO HOWND WHO WILL BE THERE AND HOWND WHO WILL BE THERE AND LONG IT WILL TAKE AND HOW BLOODY LONG IT WILL TAKE AND HOW BLOODY IT WILL BE.
IT WILL BE.
IN THE THIRD IRAQI WAR.
IN THE THIRD IRAQI WAR.
FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS WE FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS WE ISIS, 2500ING ISIS, 2500ING DIFFERENT TARGETS AHE BATTLE DIFFERENT TARGETS AHE BATTLE GREAT.E ARE DOING GREAT.E ARE DOING KILLED SEVERAL BRIGADES WORTH KILLED SEVERAL BRIGADES WORTH INTO AHED THEM INTO AHED THEM RELATIVELY MANAGEABLE AREA BUT RELATIVELY MANAGEABLE AREA BUT PROPAGANDA FRONT AND PROPAGANDA FRONT AND VIRTUAL SPACE WE ARE NOT DOING VIRTUAL SPACE WE ARE NOT DOING GREAT.
GREAT.
THEY ARE KIDNAPPING AND THEY ARE KIDNAPPING AND EXECUTING PEOPLE ON A REGULAR EXECUTING PEOPLE ON A REGULAR SOMETIMES DAILY BASIS.
SOMETIMES DAILY BASIS.
GOES ACROSS THE INTERNET ON GOES ACROSS THE INTERNET ON VIDEOS AND OTHER FORMS AND VIDEOS AND OTHER FORMS AND SCARES PEOPLE EVERYWHERE AND SCARES PEOPLE EVERYWHERE AND RECRUITS TO THE RECRUITS TO THE REGION.
REGION.
AND THIS AS WE SAW THIS WEEK IN AND THIS AS WE SAW THIS WEEK IN THE UNITED STATES EVEN THERE THE UNITED STATES EVEN THERE IN FLORIDA ANDTH IN FLORIDA ANDTH NEW YORK AS PEOPLE FROM THIS NEW YORK AS PEOPLE FROM THIS COUNTRY THOUGH THEY HAD COME COUNTRY THOUGH THEY HAD COME PREPARE TO GOCES PREPARE TO GOCES AND THAT IS HAPPENING ELSEWHERE.
AND THAT IS HAPPENING ELSEWHERE.
THIS WILL ALL COME THIS WILL ALL COME DOWN A BAT UNTIL MOSUL AND HOPE DOWN A BAT UNTIL MOSUL AND HOPE THEY CAN WIN TWO BATS THERE, THEY CAN WIN TWO BATS THERE, MILITARY AND P.R.
MILITARY AND P.R.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE.
>> WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT ON ALL >> WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT ON ALL THIS?
THIS?
QUESTION.Y GOOD QUESTION.Y GOOD HE HAS UP UNTIL NOW BEEN HE HAS UP UNTIL NOW BEEN ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ABOUT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ABOUT TROOPS.AL U.S. TROOPS.AL U.S. ABOUT 3,000, 3500 IN IRAQ.
ABOUT 3,000, 3500 IN IRAQ.
HE SAID THERE WILL BE NO MORE IN HE SAID THERE WILL BE NO MORE IN OR ANY OTHER.
OR ANY OTHER.
IT WILL PROBABLY GO UP SOME.
IT WILL PROBABLY GO UP SOME.
THEY MAY NOT BE YOU NOMEN IN THEY MAY NOT BE YOU NOMEN IN UNIFORM AS WE KNOW THEM UNIFORM AS WE KNOW THEM PROBABLYNALLY BUT PROBABLYNALLY BUT INCREASE OF SOME.
INCREASE OF SOME.
IT WILL DEPEND ENTIRELY ON IT WILL DEPEND ENTIRELY ON WHETHER THE PENTAGON PUSHES FOR WHETHER THE PENTAGON PUSHES FOR THEM OR HE ASKS THEM FOR A PLAN THEM OR HE ASKS THEM FOR A PLAN IN ADDITION TO THE ONE THEY IN ADDITION TO THE ONE THEY HAVE.
HAVE.
DO THATHEY DECIDE TO DO THATHEY DECIDE TO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT HEVILLE TO WEIGH.
HEVILLE TO WEIGH.
AT THE MOMENT THEY HAVE BEEN AT THE MOMENT THEY HAVE BEEN MORE OF A TRAP FOR MORE OF A TRAP FOR THE U.S.
THE U.S.
DEEPER AND THENY DEEPER AND THENY THREAT MANAGEABLE AS THEY HAVE THREAT MANAGEABLE AS THEY HAVE CURRENTLY CREATED THE ORDER OF CURRENTLY CREATED THE ORDER OF BATTLE.
BATTLE.
OF A NEW IDEA OF A NEW IDEA AUTHORIZATION OF MILITARY FORCE AUTHORIZATION OF MILITARY FORCE FROM CONGRESS WHICH WE HAVE BEEN FROM CONGRESS WHICH WE HAVE BEEN COUPLE ABOUT IN THE LAST COUPLE ABOUT IN THE LAST OF WEEKS, IS THAT RELEVANT TO OF WEEKS, IS THAT RELEVANT TO THE FIGHT?
THE FIGHT?
WINDOW DRESSING OFF TO WINDOW DRESSING OFF TO THE SIDE?
THE SIDE?
DOES IT MATTER FOR THIS DOES IT MATTER FOR THIS OFFENSIVE?
OFFENSIVE?
>> I TEND TO THINK IT IS THE >> I TEND TO THINK IT IS THE SECOND.
SECOND.
IF THE PRESIDENT CAN GET THIS IF THE PRESIDENT CAN GET THIS CONGRESS TO AGREE TIE HIS SHOES CONGRESS TO AGREE TIE HIS SHOES FOR THELD BE A WIN FOR THELD BE A WIN PRESIDENT MUCH LESS IN THE NAME PRESIDENT MUCH LESS IN THE NAME OF A MILITARY, AN AUTHORIZATION OF A MILITARY, AN AUTHORIZATION OF MILITARY FORCE.
OF MILITARY FORCE.
GUESSING THAT THE CONGRESS GUESSING THAT THE CONGRESS WILL HAVE THE SAME KIND OF WILL HAVE THE SAME KIND OF DIVIDES ABOUT THE LIMITS AND DIVIDES ABOUT THE LIMITS AND ABOUTS THAT THEY HAVE ABOUTS THAT THEY HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AND THAT THEY WILL ABOUT EARLIER AND THAT THEY WILL NOT GET THAT.
NOT GET THAT.
THOUGH, YOU KNOW THERE IS A THOUGH, YOU KNOW THERE IS A FOR THIS FIGHT IN THE FOR THIS FIGHT IN THE CONGRESS.
CONGRESS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET AN AUTHORIZATION.
ACTUALLY GET AN AUTHORIZATION.
I I I DON'T THINK HE FEELS HE NEEDS I DON'T THINK HE FEELS HE NEEDS IT.
IT.
WAITING FOR THE WAITING FOR THE REGION TO HER NATIONS TO REGION TO HER NATIONS TO STIP FIRST?
STIP FIRST?
>> ISIS MADE MISTAKES AND THEY >> ISIS MADE MISTAKES AND THEY 21EED PEOPLE FROM JORDAN AND 21EED PEOPLE FROM JORDAN AND EGYPTIAN COPTICS.
EGYPTIAN COPTICS.
THAT LED THEM TO BOTH GET THAT LED THEM TO BOTH GET INVOLVED.
INVOLVED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE TO GO NOW, BUT WE HAVE TO GO NOW, BUT AS ALWAYS, THE AS ALWAYS, THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES CONVERSATION CONTINUES ONLINE.
ONLINE.
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'S 'S NET F.C.C.
'S 'S NET NEUTRALITY DECISION.
NEUTRALITY DECISION.
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RBG."
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