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>>> COMING UP, FRED DE SAM >>> COMING UP, FRED DE SAM LAZARO ON THE SCOURGE OF SEX >>> COMING UP, FRED DE SAM LAZARO ON THE SCOURGE OF SEX TRAFFICKING IN VIETNAM.

LAZARO ON THE SCOURGE OF SEX TRAFFICKING IN VIETNAM.

>> WE WERE TOLD IF WE DIDN'T TRAFFICKING IN VIETNAM.

>> WE WERE TOLD IF WE DIDN'T AGREE TO BE WIVES WE WOULD BE >> WE WERE TOLD IF WE DIDN'T AGREE TO BE WIVES WE WOULD BE SOLD INTO BROTHELS.

AGREE TO BE WIVES WE WOULD BE SOLD INTO BROTHELS.

>> SAUL GONZALES ON TRYING TO SOLD INTO BROTHELS.

>> SAUL GONZALES ON TRYING TO SAVE HISTORIC CHURCH BUILDINGS >> SAUL GONZALES ON TRYING TO SAVE HISTORIC CHURCH BUILDINGS >> WELCOME.

SAVE HISTORIC CHURCH BUILDINGS >> WELCOME.

I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

>> WELCOME.

I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

RELIEF GROUPS THIS WEEK RUSHED I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

RELIEF GROUPS THIS WEEK RUSHED TO DELIVER AID TO IRAQIS FLEEING RELIEF GROUPS THIS WEEK RUSHED TO DELIVER AID TO IRAQIS FLEEING THE SECTARIAN VIOLENCE THAT HAS TO DELIVER AID TO IRAQIS FLEEING THE SECTARIAN VIOLENCE THAT HAS GRIPPED THEIR COUNTRY.

THE SECTARIAN VIOLENCE THAT HAS GRIPPED THEIR COUNTRY.

AN ESTIMATED 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE GRIPPED THEIR COUNTRY.

AN ESTIMATED 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE INCLUDING SOME CHRISTIANS HAVE AN ESTIMATED 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE INCLUDING SOME CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED SO FAR BY THE INCLUDING SOME CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED SO FAR BY THE ISLAMIST SUNNI INSURGENCY.

BEEN DISPLACED SO FAR BY THE ISLAMIST SUNNI INSURGENCY.

UNICEF GAVE THE SITUATION IN ISLAMIST SUNNI INSURGENCY.

UNICEF GAVE THE SITUATION IN IRAQ ITS MOST SEVERE DISASTER UNICEF GAVE THE SITUATION IN IRAQ ITS MOST SEVERE DISASTER GRADE -- LEVEL THREE.

IRAQ ITS MOST SEVERE DISASTER GRADE -- LEVEL THREE.

THE SAME AS THE CRISIS IN SYRIA.

GRADE -- LEVEL THREE.

THE SAME AS THE CRISIS IN SYRIA.

THIS WEEK, PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID THE SAME AS THE CRISIS IN SYRIA.

THIS WEEK, PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID AMERICAN COMBAT TROOPS ARE NOT THIS WEEK, PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID AMERICAN COMBAT TROOPS ARE NOT FIGHTING IN IRAQ AGAIN, BUT THAT AMERICAN COMBAT TROOPS ARE NOT FIGHTING IN IRAQ AGAIN, BUT THAT THE U.S. IS SENDING UP TO 300 FIGHTING IN IRAQ AGAIN, BUT THAT THE U.S. IS SENDING UP TO 300 MILITARY ADVISERS.

THE U.S. IS SENDING UP TO 300 MILITARY ADVISERS.

>> THERE'S NO MILITARY SOLUTION MILITARY ADVISERS.

>> THERE'S NO MILITARY SOLUTION INSIDE OF IRAQ, CERTAINLY NOT >> THERE'S NO MILITARY SOLUTION INSIDE OF IRAQ, CERTAINLY NOT ONE THAT HAS LED BY THE UNITED INSIDE OF IRAQ, CERTAINLY NOT ONE THAT HAS LED BY THE UNITED STATES.

ONE THAT HAS LED BY THE UNITED STATES.

BUT THERE IS AN URGENT NEED FOR STATES.

BUT THERE IS AN URGENT NEED FOR AN INCLUSIVE POLITICAL PROCESS, BUT THERE IS AN URGENT NEED FOR AN INCLUSIVE POLITICAL PROCESS, A MORE CAPABLE IRAQI SECURITY AN INCLUSIVE POLITICAL PROCESS, A MORE CAPABLE IRAQI SECURITY FORCE AND COUNTERTERRORISM A MORE CAPABLE IRAQI SECURITY FORCE AND COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS THAT DENY GROUPS LIKE FORCE AND COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS THAT DENY GROUPS LIKE ISIL A SAFE HAVEN.

EFFORTS THAT DENY GROUPS LIKE ISIL A SAFE HAVEN.

>> THERE'S BEEN A DEADLY STRING ISIL A SAFE HAVEN.

>> THERE'S BEEN A DEADLY STRING OF ATTACKS IN KENYA.

>> THERE'S BEEN A DEADLY STRING OF ATTACKS IN KENYA.

MORE THAN 60 PEOPLE IN SEVERAL OF ATTACKS IN KENYA.

MORE THAN 60 PEOPLE IN SEVERAL COASTAL VILLAGES WERE KILLED BY MORE THAN 60 PEOPLE IN SEVERAL COASTAL VILLAGES WERE KILLED BY GUNMEN WHO WENT DOOR TO DOOR COASTAL VILLAGES WERE KILLED BY GUNMEN WHO WENT DOOR TO DOOR ASKING IF THOSE INSIDE WERE GUNMEN WHO WENT DOOR TO DOOR ASKING IF THOSE INSIDE WERE MUSLIM.

ASKING IF THOSE INSIDE WERE MUSLIM.

THOSE WHO ANSWERED NO WERE SHOT.

MUSLIM.

THOSE WHO ANSWERED NO WERE SHOT.

THE ISLAMIST MILITANT GROUP AL THOSE WHO ANSWERED NO WERE SHOT.

THE ISLAMIST MILITANT GROUP AL SHABAB CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY, THE ISLAMIST MILITANT GROUP AL SHABAB CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THE KENYAN GOVERNMENT SAID SHABAB CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THE KENYAN GOVERNMENT SAID ITS POLITICAL RIVALS ARE TO BUT THE KENYAN GOVERNMENT SAID ITS POLITICAL RIVALS ARE TO BLAME.

ITS POLITICAL RIVALS ARE TO BLAME.

THIS WEEK, THE GOVERNMENT SAID BLAME.

THIS WEEK, THE GOVERNMENT SAID IT KILLED FIVE PEOPLE SUSPECTED THIS WEEK, THE GOVERNMENT SAID IT KILLED FIVE PEOPLE SUSPECTED OF HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THE IT KILLED FIVE PEOPLE SUSPECTED OF HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THE ATTACKS.

OF HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THE ATTACKS.

>>> HERE AT HOME, THE GENERAL ATTACKS.

>>> HERE AT HOME, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE PRESBYTERIAN >>> HERE AT HOME, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH USA GATHERED IN DETROIT ASSEMBLY OF THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH USA GATHERED IN DETROIT TO VOTE ON A SERIES OF HOTLY CHURCH USA GATHERED IN DETROIT TO VOTE ON A SERIES OF HOTLY DEBATED ISSUES.

TO VOTE ON A SERIES OF HOTLY DEBATED ISSUES.

DELEGATES APPROVED A RESOLUTION DEBATED ISSUES.

DELEGATES APPROVED A RESOLUTION ALLOWING PASTORS TO PERFORM DELEGATES APPROVED A RESOLUTION ALLOWING PASTORS TO PERFORM SAME-SEX MARRIAGES IN STATES ALLOWING PASTORS TO PERFORM SAME-SEX MARRIAGES IN STATES WHERE IT'S LEGAL.

SAME-SEX MARRIAGES IN STATES WHERE IT'S LEGAL.

THAT CHANGE GOES INTO EFFECT WHERE IT'S LEGAL.

THAT CHANGE GOES INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

THAT CHANGE GOES INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

DELEGATES ALSO VOTED TO CHANGE IMMEDIATELY.

DELEGATES ALSO VOTED TO CHANGE THE CHURCH'S DEFINITION OF DELEGATES ALSO VOTED TO CHANGE THE CHURCH'S DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE FROM A COVENANT BETWEEN THE CHURCH'S DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE FROM A COVENANT BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN TO A COVENANT MARRIAGE FROM A COVENANT BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN TO A COVENANT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.

A MAN AND A WOMAN TO A COVENANT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.

THAT CHANGE REQUIRES REGIONAL BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.

THAT CHANGE REQUIRES REGIONAL APPROVAL.

THAT CHANGE REQUIRES REGIONAL APPROVAL.

>>> AMERICANS ARE GIVING LESS TO APPROVAL.

>>> AMERICANS ARE GIVING LESS TO CHURCHES AND MORE TO OTHER KINDS >>> AMERICANS ARE GIVING LESS TO CHURCHES AND MORE TO OTHER KINDS OF CAUSES.

CHURCHES AND MORE TO OTHER KINDS OF CAUSES.

ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT FROM OF CAUSES.

ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT FROM GIVING USA AND THE INDIANA ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT FROM GIVING USA AND THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY LILLY FAMILY SCHOOL GIVING USA AND THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY LILLY FAMILY SCHOOL OF PHILANTHROPY.

UNIVERSITY LILLY FAMILY SCHOOL OF PHILANTHROPY.

DONATIONS TO RELIGIOUS GROUPS OF PHILANTHROPY.

DONATIONS TO RELIGIOUS GROUPS FELL 1.6% FROM 2012 TO 2013 DONATIONS TO RELIGIOUS GROUPS FELL 1.6% FROM 2012 TO 2013 DESPITE THE FACT THAT CHARITABLE FELL 1.6% FROM 2012 TO 2013 DESPITE THE FACT THAT CHARITABLE GIVING IS UP OVERALL 3%.

DESPITE THE FACT THAT CHARITABLE GIVING IS UP OVERALL 3%.

AMONG THE GROUPS RECEIVING GIVING IS UP OVERALL 3%.

AMONG THE GROUPS RECEIVING INCREASED GIVING -- EDUCATION, AMONG THE GROUPS RECEIVING INCREASED GIVING -- EDUCATION, THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES AND INCREASED GIVING -- EDUCATION, THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND ANIMAL THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND ANIMAL PROTECTION ORGANIZATIONS.

ENVIRONMENTAL AND ANIMAL PROTECTION ORGANIZATIONS.

>>> THERE WERE THREE EXECUTIONS PROTECTION ORGANIZATIONS.

>>> THERE WERE THREE EXECUTIONS IN THE U.S.

IN THE SPAN OF 24 >>> THERE WERE THREE EXECUTIONS IN THE U.S.

IN THE SPAN OF 24 HOURS THIS WEEK.

IN THE U.S.

IN THE SPAN OF 24 HOURS THIS WEEK.

THEY WERE THE FIRST EXECUTIONS HOURS THIS WEEK.

THEY WERE THE FIRST EXECUTIONS SINCE APRIL WHEN AN OKLAHOMA THEY WERE THE FIRST EXECUTIONS SINCE APRIL WHEN AN OKLAHOMA INMATE DIED OF A HEART ATTACK SINCE APRIL WHEN AN OKLAHOMA INMATE DIED OF A HEART ATTACK AFTER A BOTCHED LETHAL INMATE DIED OF A HEART ATTACK AFTER A BOTCHED LETHAL INJECTION.

AFTER A BOTCHED LETHAL INJECTION.

THIS WEEK'S INJECTIONS WERE INJECTION.

THIS WEEK'S INJECTIONS WERE CARRIED OUT AMID A GROWING THIS WEEK'S INJECTIONS WERE CARRIED OUT AMID A GROWING DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER STATES CARRIED OUT AMID A GROWING DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER STATES SHOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE WHERE DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER STATES SHOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE WHERE THE DRUGS COME FROM.

SHOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE WHERE THE DRUGS COME FROM.

THE EXECUTIONS TOOK PLACE IN THE DRUGS COME FROM.

THE EXECUTIONS TOOK PLACE IN FLORIDA, GEORGIA AND MISSOURI.

THE EXECUTIONS TOOK PLACE IN FLORIDA, GEORGIA AND MISSOURI.

EACH OF WHICH HAS REFUSED TO SAY FLORIDA, GEORGIA AND MISSOURI.

EACH OF WHICH HAS REFUSED TO SAY WHERE IT GOT THE DRUGS.

EACH OF WHICH HAS REFUSED TO SAY WHERE IT GOT THE DRUGS.

>>> THE VATICAN ANNOUNCED THAT WHERE IT GOT THE DRUGS.

>>> THE VATICAN ANNOUNCED THAT POPE FRANCIS IS CANCELING ALL OF >>> THE VATICAN ANNOUNCED THAT POPE FRANCIS IS CANCELING ALL OF HIS WEDNESDAY GENERAL AUDIENCES POPE FRANCIS IS CANCELING ALL OF HIS WEDNESDAY GENERAL AUDIENCES FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.

HIS WEDNESDAY GENERAL AUDIENCES FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.

THE CANCELLATIONS LED SOME TO FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.

THE CANCELLATIONS LED SOME TO SPECULATE THAT THE POPE'S HEALTH THE CANCELLATIONS LED SOME TO SPECULATE THAT THE POPE'S HEALTH IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF HIS SPECULATE THAT THE POPE'S HEALTH IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF HIS GRUELING SCHEDULE.

IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF HIS GRUELING SCHEDULE.

HOWEVER, THE VATICAN RUSHED TO GRUELING SCHEDULE.

HOWEVER, THE VATICAN RUSHED TO DOWNPLAY THE RUMORS SAYING THE HOWEVER, THE VATICAN RUSHED TO DOWNPLAY THE RUMORS SAYING THE POPE IS NOT SICK.

DOWNPLAY THE RUMORS SAYING THE POPE IS NOT SICK.

MEANWHILE, ON FRIDAY, THE POPE POPE IS NOT SICK.

MEANWHILE, ON FRIDAY, THE POPE CAME OUT AGAINST LEGALIZING MEANWHILE, ON FRIDAY, THE POPE CAME OUT AGAINST LEGALIZING RECREATIONAL DRUGS.

CAME OUT AGAINST LEGALIZING RECREATIONAL DRUGS.

>>> FRANCIS WAS VISITED THIS RECREATIONAL DRUGS.

>>> FRANCIS WAS VISITED THIS WEEK BY ARCHBISHOP OF >>> FRANCIS WAS VISITED THIS WEEK BY ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY, JUSTIN WELBY.

WEEK BY ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY, JUSTIN WELBY.

IT WAS THEIR SECOND MEETING.

CANTERBURY, JUSTIN WELBY.

IT WAS THEIR SECOND MEETING.

THEY DISCUSSED THEIR OPPOSITION IT WAS THEIR SECOND MEETING.

THEY DISCUSSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND THEY DISCUSSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO THE TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO THE FIGHT AGAINST SLAVERY IN ALL COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO THE FIGHT AGAINST SLAVERY IN ALL FORMS.

FIGHT AGAINST SLAVERY IN ALL FORMS.

>>> WE HAVE A SPECIAL REPORT NOW FORMS.

>>> WE HAVE A SPECIAL REPORT NOW ON THE CONTINUING TRAGEDY OF SEX >>> WE HAVE A SPECIAL REPORT NOW ON THE CONTINUING TRAGEDY OF SEX TRAFFICKING IN VIETNAM.

ON THE CONTINUING TRAGEDY OF SEX TRAFFICKING IN VIETNAM.

POOR COUNTRY GIRLS TRICKED INTO TRAFFICKING IN VIETNAM.

POOR COUNTRY GIRLS TRICKED INTO GOING ACROSS THE BORDER INTO POOR COUNTRY GIRLS TRICKED INTO GOING ACROSS THE BORDER INTO CHINA WHERE THEY'RE OFFERED A GOING ACROSS THE BORDER INTO CHINA WHERE THEY'RE OFFERED A CHOICE BETWEEN MARRIAGE AND A CHINA WHERE THEY'RE OFFERED A CHOICE BETWEEN MARRIAGE AND A BROTHEL.

CHOICE BETWEEN MARRIAGE AND A BROTHEL.

BUT SOME OF THE GIRLS ESCAPE AND BROTHEL.

BUT SOME OF THE GIRLS ESCAPE AND ONCE THEY RETURN THERE ARE BUT SOME OF THE GIRLS ESCAPE AND ONCE THEY RETURN THERE ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP THEM GET ONCE THEY RETURN THERE ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP THEM GET BACK INTO SCHOOL AND LEARN JOB PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP THEM GET BACK INTO SCHOOL AND LEARN JOB SKILLS.

BACK INTO SCHOOL AND LEARN JOB SKILLS.

FRED DE SAM LAZARO REPORTS FROM SKILLS.

FRED DE SAM LAZARO REPORTS FROM THE VIETNAM/CHINA BORDER.

FRED DE SAM LAZARO REPORTS FROM THE VIETNAM/CHINA BORDER.

>> THE COMMUNIST PARTY FLAG THE VIETNAM/CHINA BORDER.

>> THE COMMUNIST PARTY FLAG STILL FLIES HIGH IN VIETNAM.

>> THE COMMUNIST PARTY FLAG STILL FLIES HIGH IN VIETNAM.

BUT ON THE GROUND, CONSUMERS AND STILL FLIES HIGH IN VIETNAM.

BUT ON THE GROUND, CONSUMERS AND CAPITALISM ARE THRIVING.

BUT ON THE GROUND, CONSUMERS AND CAPITALISM ARE THRIVING.

AT LEAST IN CITIES LIKE HOE CHE CAPITALISM ARE THRIVING.

AT LEAST IN CITIES LIKE HOE CHE MING AND THE CAPITAL, HANOI, AT LEAST IN CITIES LIKE HOE CHE MING AND THE CAPITAL, HANOI, WHICH HAVE GROWN RAPIDLY.

MING AND THE CAPITAL, HANOI, WHICH HAVE GROWN RAPIDLY.

>> YOU SEE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WHICH HAVE GROWN RAPIDLY.

>> YOU SEE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MOBILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY AND >> YOU SEE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MOBILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY AND THE URBAN MIGRATION HAPPENING TO MOBILITY WITHIN THE COUNTRY AND THE URBAN MIGRATION HAPPENING TO A LARGE SCALE.

THE URBAN MIGRATION HAPPENING TO A LARGE SCALE.

>> HOWEVER, FORSTER SAID THE A LARGE SCALE.

>> HOWEVER, FORSTER SAID THE STRONG ECONOMIC GROWTH IS NOT >> HOWEVER, FORSTER SAID THE STRONG ECONOMIC GROWTH IS NOT ENOUGH TO ABSORB MILLIONS OF STRONG ECONOMIC GROWTH IS NOT ENOUGH TO ABSORB MILLIONS OF YOUNG ENTRANTS TO THE JOB MARKET ENOUGH TO ABSORB MILLIONS OF YOUNG ENTRANTS TO THE JOB MARKET IN THIS NATION OF 90 MILLION.

YOUNG ENTRANTS TO THE JOB MARKET IN THIS NATION OF 90 MILLION.

>> WE HAVE CURRENTLY ABOUT IN THIS NATION OF 90 MILLION.

>> WE HAVE CURRENTLY ABOUT 400,000 MIGRANT WORKERS BEING >> WE HAVE CURRENTLY ABOUT 400,000 MIGRANT WORKERS BEING DEPLOYED ABROAD WITH 80,000 400,000 MIGRANT WORKERS BEING DEPLOYED ABROAD WITH 80,000 LEAVING EVERY YEAR.

DEPLOYED ABROAD WITH 80,000 LEAVING EVERY YEAR.

WHENEVER YOU HAVE MIGRATION, LEAVING EVERY YEAR.

WHENEVER YOU HAVE MIGRATION, WHICH IS A POSITIVE DRIVER AND A WHENEVER YOU HAVE MIGRATION, WHICH IS A POSITIVE DRIVER AND A POSITIVE FORCE, THEN YOU HAVE WHICH IS A POSITIVE DRIVER AND A POSITIVE FORCE, THEN YOU HAVE ALSO THE EXPECTATION OF USE POSITIVE FORCE, THEN YOU HAVE ALSO THE EXPECTATION OF USE COMING WITH IT.

ALSO THE EXPECTATION OF USE COMING WITH IT.

AND THAT LEADS TO TRAFFICKING.

COMING WITH IT.

AND THAT LEADS TO TRAFFICKING.

>> THE HEART OF BOTH THE SEX AND AND THAT LEADS TO TRAFFICKING.

>> THE HEART OF BOTH THE SEX AND LABOR TRAFFICKING PROBLEM AND >> THE HEART OF BOTH THE SEX AND LABOR TRAFFICKING PROBLEM AND MUCH OF VIETNAM'S POVERTY LIES LABOR TRAFFICKING PROBLEM AND MUCH OF VIETNAM'S POVERTY LIES IN THE RURAL HINTERLAND.

MUCH OF VIETNAM'S POVERTY LIES IN THE RURAL HINTERLAND.

STILL HOME TO TWO-THIRDS OF THE IN THE RURAL HINTERLAND.

STILL HOME TO TWO-THIRDS OF THE POPULATION.

STILL HOME TO TWO-THIRDS OF THE POPULATION.

THIS IS VIETNAM'S BACK DOOR.

POPULATION.

THIS IS VIETNAM'S BACK DOOR.

THE RUGGED MOUNTAINOUS, REMOTE THIS IS VIETNAM'S BACK DOOR.

THE RUGGED MOUNTAINOUS, REMOTE REGION ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER THE RUGGED MOUNTAINOUS, REMOTE REGION ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER WITH CHINA.

REGION ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER WITH CHINA.

IT'S A POROUS BORDER THROUGH WITH CHINA.

IT'S A POROUS BORDER THROUGH WHICH THOUSANDS OF VIETNAMESE IT'S A POROUS BORDER THROUGH WHICH THOUSANDS OF VIETNAMESE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE WHICH THOUSANDS OF VIETNAMESE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE TRAFFICKED EACH YEAR.

WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE TRAFFICKED EACH YEAR.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES TRAFFICKED EACH YEAR.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN GETTING A HANDLE ON THIS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN GETTING A HANDLE ON THIS COMPLEX PROBLEM.

IN GETTING A HANDLE ON THIS COMPLEX PROBLEM.

CHINA IS A GIANT MAGNET.

COMPLEX PROBLEM.

CHINA IS A GIANT MAGNET.

ITS WAGES ARE HIGHER AND IT'S A CHINA IS A GIANT MAGNET.

ITS WAGES ARE HIGHER AND IT'S A TRANSIT POINT TO OTHER ITS WAGES ARE HIGHER AND IT'S A TRANSIT POINT TO OTHER COUNTRIES.

TRANSIT POINT TO OTHER COUNTRIES.

CHINA'S ALSO AN INVOLUNTARY COUNTRIES.

CHINA'S ALSO AN INVOLUNTARY DESTINATION FOR MANY YOUNG CHINA'S ALSO AN INVOLUNTARY DESTINATION FOR MANY YOUNG VIETNAMESE WOMEN.

DESTINATION FOR MANY YOUNG VIETNAMESE WOMEN.

THE ONE-CHILD POLICY, COMBINED VIETNAMESE WOMEN.

THE ONE-CHILD POLICY, COMBINED WITH A PREFERENCE FOR MALE THE ONE-CHILD POLICY, COMBINED WITH A PREFERENCE FOR MALE CHILDREN HAS CREATED A SHORTAGE WITH A PREFERENCE FOR MALE CHILDREN HAS CREATED A SHORTAGE OF BRIDES.

CHILDREN HAS CREATED A SHORTAGE OF BRIDES.

DIEP VUONG HELPS THE VICTIMS WHO OF BRIDES.

DIEP VUONG HELPS THE VICTIMS WHO HAVE MANAGED TO ESCAPE.

DIEP VUONG HELPS THE VICTIMS WHO HAVE MANAGED TO ESCAPE.

>> WE GIVE THE GIRLS A CHOICE -- HAVE MANAGED TO ESCAPE.

>> WE GIVE THE GIRLS A CHOICE -- DO YOU WANT TO MARRY SOMEBODY OR >> WE GIVE THE GIRLS A CHOICE -- DO YOU WANT TO MARRY SOMEBODY OR DO YOU WANT TO WORK IN THE DO YOU WANT TO MARRY SOMEBODY OR DO YOU WANT TO WORK IN THE BROTHELS?

DO YOU WANT TO WORK IN THE BROTHELS?

AND ONE OF THE GIRLS TOLD US BROTHELS?

AND ONE OF THE GIRLS TOLD US THAT SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY AND ONE OF THE GIRLS TOLD US THAT SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY TOLD US THAT IF WE WORK IN THAT SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY TOLD US THAT IF WE WORK IN BROTHELS WE'LL BE STAYING NEAR TOLD US THAT IF WE WORK IN BROTHELS WE'LL BE STAYING NEAR THE BORDER.

BROTHELS WE'LL BE STAYING NEAR THE BORDER.

AND SO SOME GIRLS, THEY -- YOU THE BORDER.

AND SO SOME GIRLS, THEY -- YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER STAY HERE AND SO SOME GIRLS, THEY -- YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER STAY HERE BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO VIETNAM.

KNOW, I'D RATHER STAY HERE BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO VIETNAM.

AND I MAY BE ABLE TO RUN BACK.

BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO VIETNAM.

AND I MAY BE ABLE TO RUN BACK.

>> VUONG BROUGHT ME TO VISIT AND I MAY BE ABLE TO RUN BACK.

>> VUONG BROUGHT ME TO VISIT 23-YEAR-OLD LAN WHO WAS ABLE TO >> VUONG BROUGHT ME TO VISIT 23-YEAR-OLD LAN WHO WAS ABLE TO RUN BACK.

23-YEAR-OLD LAN WHO WAS ABLE TO RUN BACK.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS RUN BACK.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS TAKEN.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS TAKEN.

WE WERE IN THE CAR FOR A DAY.

TAKEN.

WE WERE IN THE CAR FOR A DAY.

AND WHEN THEY WOULDN'T LET ME WE WERE IN THE CAR FOR A DAY.

AND WHEN THEY WOULDN'T LET ME OUT OF THE CAR THEN I REALIZED I AND WHEN THEY WOULDN'T LET ME OUT OF THE CAR THEN I REALIZED I HAD BEEN TRICKED.

OUT OF THE CAR THEN I REALIZED I HAD BEEN TRICKED.

>> HERS IS A CLASSIC STORY OF HAD BEEN TRICKED.

>> HERS IS A CLASSIC STORY OF HOW TRAFFICKERS PREY ON >> HERS IS A CLASSIC STORY OF HOW TRAFFICKERS PREY ON DESPERATELY POOR PEOPLE.

HOW TRAFFICKERS PREY ON DESPERATELY POOR PEOPLE.

LAN WAS WORKING ON A ROAD DESPERATELY POOR PEOPLE.

LAN WAS WORKING ON A ROAD BUILDING CREW, BACK BREAKING LAN WAS WORKING ON A ROAD BUILDING CREW, BACK BREAKING WORK IN HOT, STIFLING WEATHER.

BUILDING CREW, BACK BREAKING WORK IN HOT, STIFLING WEATHER.

AND IT'S TO HER WORK SITE THAT WORK IN HOT, STIFLING WEATHER.

AND IT'S TO HER WORK SITE THAT THE RECRUITER CAME WITH A BETTER AND IT'S TO HER WORK SITE THAT THE RECRUITER CAME WITH A BETTER OFFER.

THE RECRUITER CAME WITH A BETTER OFFER.

TO HARVEST CINNAMON FOR HIGHER OFFER.

TO HARVEST CINNAMON FOR HIGHER WAGES.

TO HARVEST CINNAMON FOR HIGHER WAGES.

SHE AND TWO OTHERS TOOK THE WAGES.

SHE AND TWO OTHERS TOOK THE BAIT.

SHE AND TWO OTHERS TOOK THE BAIT.

BUT LAN WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO BAIT.

BUT LAN WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO MANAGED TO RETURN TO HER BUT LAN WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO MANAGED TO RETURN TO HER VILLAGE.

MANAGED TO RETURN TO HER VILLAGE.

THE OTHER TWO HAVE NOT BEEN VILLAGE.

THE OTHER TWO HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD FROM SINCE.

THE OTHER TWO HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD FROM SINCE.

LAN SAID SHE WAS HELD IN A HOME HEARD FROM SINCE.

LAN SAID SHE WAS HELD IN A HOME ACROSS THE BORDER IN CHINA LAN SAID SHE WAS HELD IN A HOME ACROSS THE BORDER IN CHINA BEFORE BEING TAKEN TO A PLACE ACROSS THE BORDER IN CHINA BEFORE BEING TAKEN TO A PLACE SHE THOUGHT WAS BEIJING.

BEFORE BEING TAKEN TO A PLACE SHE THOUGHT WAS BEIJING.

WHERE SHE ENCOUNTERED THE SHE THOUGHT WAS BEIJING.

WHERE SHE ENCOUNTERED THE POLICE.

WHERE SHE ENCOUNTERED THE POLICE.

>> WHEN WE GOT TO BEIJING, THERE POLICE.

>> WHEN WE GOT TO BEIJING, THERE WERE A LOT OF POLICEMEN AROUND.

>> WHEN WE GOT TO BEIJING, THERE WERE A LOT OF POLICEMEN AROUND.

SO I RAN TO THEM AND ASKED THEM WERE A LOT OF POLICEMEN AROUND.

SO I RAN TO THEM AND ASKED THEM TO HELP ME.

SO I RAN TO THEM AND ASKED THEM TO HELP ME.

THEY SHOWED ME A COMPUTER SCREEN TO HELP ME.

THEY SHOWED ME A COMPUTER SCREEN AND I WAS ABLE TO CONVEY TO THEM THEY SHOWED ME A COMPUTER SCREEN AND I WAS ABLE TO CONVEY TO THEM I WAS FROM VIETNAM.

AND I WAS ABLE TO CONVEY TO THEM I WAS FROM VIETNAM.

>> BUT AFTER CLARIFYING A FEW I WAS FROM VIETNAM.

>> BUT AFTER CLARIFYING A FEW QUESTIONS, VUONG DETERMINED SHE >> BUT AFTER CLARIFYING A FEW QUESTIONS, VUONG DETERMINED SHE WASN'T DESCRIBING BEIJING, BUT QUESTIONS, VUONG DETERMINED SHE WASN'T DESCRIBING BEIJING, BUT RATHER AN AIRPORT.

WASN'T DESCRIBING BEIJING, BUT RATHER AN AIRPORT.

SHE HAD NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE.

RATHER AN AIRPORT.

SHE HAD NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE.

>> I MEAN, YOU SEE AIRPORT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE.

>> I MEAN, YOU SEE AIRPORT PICTURES ALL THE TIME.

>> I MEAN, YOU SEE AIRPORT PICTURES ALL THE TIME.

MALAYSIAN AIRLINES.

PICTURES ALL THE TIME.

MALAYSIAN AIRLINES.

ALL THAT.

MALAYSIAN AIRLINES.

ALL THAT.

AND THEN YOU -- YOU KNOW, YOU ALL THAT.

AND THEN YOU -- YOU KNOW, YOU COME ACROSS PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY AND THEN YOU -- YOU KNOW, YOU COME ACROSS PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ARE AT THE AIRPORT AND DON'T COME ACROSS PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ARE AT THE AIRPORT AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN AT THE ARE AT THE AIRPORT AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN AT THE AIRPORT.

EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN AT THE AIRPORT.

>> LAN WAS FORTUNATE IN ONE AIRPORT.

>> LAN WAS FORTUNATE IN ONE CRITICAL WAY.

>> LAN WAS FORTUNATE IN ONE CRITICAL WAY.

HER FAMILY WELCOMED HER BACK.

CRITICAL WAY.

HER FAMILY WELCOMED HER BACK.

SHE HAS SINCE MARRIED AND HAS A HER FAMILY WELCOMED HER BACK.

SHE HAS SINCE MARRIED AND HAS A 1-YEAR-OLD SON.

SHE HAS SINCE MARRIED AND HAS A 1-YEAR-OLD SON.

OFTEN, VICTIMS MUST DEAL WITH 1-YEAR-OLD SON.

OFTEN, VICTIMS MUST DEAL WITH STIGMA, SHAME AND REJECTION FROM OFTEN, VICTIMS MUST DEAL WITH STIGMA, SHAME AND REJECTION FROM THEIR FAMILIES.

STIGMA, SHAME AND REJECTION FROM THEIR FAMILIES.

>> MY MOTHER DOESN'T CARE TO SEE THEIR FAMILIES.

>> MY MOTHER DOESN'T CARE TO SEE ME ANYMORE.

>> MY MOTHER DOESN'T CARE TO SEE ME ANYMORE.

IN MY VILLAGE, THERE WERE SOME ME ANYMORE.

IN MY VILLAGE, THERE WERE SOME YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAD RETURNED IN MY VILLAGE, THERE WERE SOME YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAD RETURNED FROM CHINA AND I REMEMBER YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAD RETURNED FROM CHINA AND I REMEMBER LOOKING DOWN ON THEM.

FROM CHINA AND I REMEMBER LOOKING DOWN ON THEM.

THAT'S HOW I THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING DOWN ON THEM.

THAT'S HOW I THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT ME.

THAT'S HOW I THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT ME.

>> WE WERE ASKED TO CONCEAL THE LOOKING AT ME.

>> WE WERE ASKED TO CONCEAL THE IDENTITIES OF THE VICTIMS.

>> WE WERE ASKED TO CONCEAL THE IDENTITIES OF THE VICTIMS.

>> THERE WAS A BOY, HE LIVED IDENTITIES OF THE VICTIMS.

>> THERE WAS A BOY, HE LIVED BELOW US.

>> THERE WAS A BOY, HE LIVED BELOW US.

HE TOLD ME THAT HIS BROTHER HAD BELOW US.

HE TOLD ME THAT HIS BROTHER HAD A BAD ACCIDENT IN CHINA.

HE TOLD ME THAT HIS BROTHER HAD A BAD ACCIDENT IN CHINA.

AND HE ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO A BAD ACCIDENT IN CHINA.

AND HE ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO GO WITH HIM TO TAKE CARE OF HIS AND HE ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO GO WITH HIM TO TAKE CARE OF HIS BROTHER.

GO WITH HIM TO TAKE CARE OF HIS BROTHER.

MY COUSIN TOLD ME HE WAS DUMPED BROTHER.

MY COUSIN TOLD ME HE WAS DUMPED BY HIS GIRLFRIEND AND REALLY MY COUSIN TOLD ME HE WAS DUMPED BY HIS GIRLFRIEND AND REALLY DEPRESSED AND ASKED IF I WOULD BY HIS GIRLFRIEND AND REALLY DEPRESSED AND ASKED IF I WOULD GO AND HANG OUT WITH HIM.

DEPRESSED AND ASKED IF I WOULD GO AND HANG OUT WITH HIM.

>> BUT THEIR FRIENDS LIE TO GO AND HANG OUT WITH HIM.

>> BUT THEIR FRIENDS LIE TO THEM.

>> BUT THEIR FRIENDS LIE TO THEM.

EACH TEENAGER WAS HANDED OVER TO THEM.

EACH TEENAGER WAS HANDED OVER TO SHADOWY TRAFFICKING NETWORKS.

EACH TEENAGER WAS HANDED OVER TO SHADOWY TRAFFICKING NETWORKS.

>> WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE SHADOWY TRAFFICKING NETWORKS.

>> WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE DIDN'T AGREE TO BE WIVES WE >> WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE DIDN'T AGREE TO BE WIVES WE WOULD BE SOLD INTO BROTHELS.

DIDN'T AGREE TO BE WIVES WE WOULD BE SOLD INTO BROTHELS.

>> PHONOG AGREED, BUT HUE DID WOULD BE SOLD INTO BROTHELS.

>> PHONOG AGREED, BUT HUE DID NOT.

>> PHONOG AGREED, BUT HUE DID NOT.

>> THEY WERE WAITING TO FIND A NOT.

>> THEY WERE WAITING TO FIND A CLIENT FOR ME.

>> THEY WERE WAITING TO FIND A CLIENT FOR ME.

LUCKILY THERE WAS A POLICE RAID CLIENT FOR ME.

LUCKILY THERE WAS A POLICE RAID AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE LUCKILY THERE WAS A POLICE RAID AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE PAPERS, THE POLICE TOOK US AWAY.

AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE PAPERS, THE POLICE TOOK US AWAY.

>> EACH TELLS HARROWING ESCAPE PAPERS, THE POLICE TOOK US AWAY.

>> EACH TELLS HARROWING ESCAPE STORIES.

>> EACH TELLS HARROWING ESCAPE STORIES.

HOW CHANCE ENCOUNTERS WITH STORIES.

HOW CHANCE ENCOUNTERS WITH POLICE OFFICIALS AND KIND HOW CHANCE ENCOUNTERS WITH POLICE OFFICIALS AND KIND STRANGERS HELPED GET THEM HOME.

POLICE OFFICIALS AND KIND STRANGERS HELPED GET THEM HOME.

IN MANY CASES, THEY BECOME STRANGERS HELPED GET THEM HOME.

IN MANY CASES, THEY BECOME TRAFFICKERS.

IN MANY CASES, THEY BECOME TRAFFICKERS.

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF MINISTRY TRAFFICKERS.

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF MINISTRY SAID THAT THEY -- OF ALL THE >> THE DEPARTMENT OF MINISTRY SAID THAT THEY -- OF ALL THE PEOPLE THEY ARRESTED AS SAID THAT THEY -- OF ALL THE PEOPLE THEY ARRESTED AS TRAFFICKERS, 60% OF THEM HAD PEOPLE THEY ARRESTED AS TRAFFICKERS, 60% OF THEM HAD BEEN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS TRAFFICKERS, 60% OF THEM HAD BEEN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS THEMSELVES.

BEEN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS THEMSELVES.

>> VUONG DESCRIBED ONE ENCOUNTER THEMSELVES.

>> VUONG DESCRIBED ONE ENCOUNTER WITH A 17-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS >> VUONG DESCRIBED ONE ENCOUNTER WITH A 17-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS SEVERELY BEATEN IN CAPTIVITY AND WITH A 17-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS SEVERELY BEATEN IN CAPTIVITY AND RELEASED ON CONDITION SHE SEVERELY BEATEN IN CAPTIVITY AND RELEASED ON CONDITION SHE RECRUIT MORE YOUNG WOMEN.

RELEASED ON CONDITION SHE RECRUIT MORE YOUNG WOMEN.

WHICH SHE AGREED TO DO.

RECRUIT MORE YOUNG WOMEN.

WHICH SHE AGREED TO DO.

>> AND SHE SAID, WELL, I TOLD WHICH SHE AGREED TO DO.

>> AND SHE SAID, WELL, I TOLD THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL >> AND SHE SAID, WELL, I TOLD THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL WORK AT THIS RESTAURANT AND SO THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL WORK AT THIS RESTAURANT AND SO SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WORK AT THIS RESTAURANT AND SO SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SERVE AS SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SERVE AS PROSTITUTES.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO SERVE AS PROSTITUTES.

>> WHY WOULD SHE FEEL COMPELLED PROSTITUTES.

>> WHY WOULD SHE FEEL COMPELLED TO FEED THIS TRADE THEN IF SHE >> WHY WOULD SHE FEEL COMPELLED TO FEED THIS TRADE THEN IF SHE WAS -- TO FEED THIS TRADE THEN IF SHE WAS -- >> WELL, I THINK THAT -- I DON'T WAS -- >> WELL, I THINK THAT -- I DON'T KNOW.

>> WELL, I THINK THAT -- I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, DO YOU ASK AN ABUSED KNOW.

I MEAN, DO YOU ASK AN ABUSED WOMAN WHO IS ABUSED BY HER I MEAN, DO YOU ASK AN ABUSED WOMAN WHO IS ABUSED BY HER HUSBAND WHY SHE GOES BACK TO HER WOMAN WHO IS ABUSED BY HER HUSBAND WHY SHE GOES BACK TO HER HUSBAND OR WHY DOES SHE LET HER HUSBAND WHY SHE GOES BACK TO HER HUSBAND OR WHY DOES SHE LET HER HUSBAND BEAT UP ON THE CHILDREN HUSBAND OR WHY DOES SHE LET HER HUSBAND BEAT UP ON THE CHILDREN KNOWING WHAT THE HARM SHE HUSBAND BEAT UP ON THE CHILDREN KNOWING WHAT THE HARM SHE SUFFERED IS TERRIBLE ENOUGH?

KNOWING WHAT THE HARM SHE SUFFERED IS TERRIBLE ENOUGH?

>> FOR YOUNG WOMEN UNABLE TO SUFFERED IS TERRIBLE ENOUGH?

>> FOR YOUNG WOMEN UNABLE TO RETURN TO THEIR FAMILIES, >> FOR YOUNG WOMEN UNABLE TO RETURN TO THEIR FAMILIES, VUONG'S GROUP PROVIDES SAFE RETURN TO THEIR FAMILIES, VUONG'S GROUP PROVIDES SAFE HAVEN.

VUONG'S GROUP PROVIDES SAFE HAVEN.

THEY LEARN BASIC LIFE SKILLS HAVEN.

THEY LEARN BASIC LIFE SKILLS LIKE COOKING AND CAN COMPLETE THEY LEARN BASIC LIFE SKILLS LIKE COOKING AND CAN COMPLETE THEIR SCHOOLING.

LIKE COOKING AND CAN COMPLETE THEIR SCHOOLING.

ABOUT 4,000 YOUNG WOMEN HAVE THEIR SCHOOLING.

ABOUT 4,000 YOUNG WOMEN HAVE RECEIVED SCHOLARSHIPS WITH MONEY ABOUT 4,000 YOUNG WOMEN HAVE RECEIVED SCHOLARSHIPS WITH MONEY VUONG RAISES THROUGH PRIVATE RECEIVED SCHOLARSHIPS WITH MONEY VUONG RAISES THROUGH PRIVATE DONATIONS.

VUONG RAISES THROUGH PRIVATE DONATIONS.

THAT ENABLES THEM TO GO TO DONATIONS.

THAT ENABLES THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL AND IF POSSIBLE TRAIN FOR THAT ENABLES THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL AND IF POSSIBLE TRAIN FOR JOB SKILLS.

SCHOOL AND IF POSSIBLE TRAIN FOR JOB SKILLS.

ONE PARTNER IS ANOTHER NONPROFIT JOB SKILLS.

ONE PARTNER IS ANOTHER NONPROFIT CALLED NO ONE TEACH ONE OR KOTO.

ONE PARTNER IS ANOTHER NONPROFIT CALLED NO ONE TEACH ONE OR KOTO.

ITS RESTAURANTS AND CULINARY CALLED NO ONE TEACH ONE OR KOTO.

ITS RESTAURANTS AND CULINARY SCHOOLS IN HOE CHE MING CITY ITS RESTAURANTS AND CULINARY SCHOOLS IN HOE CHE MING CITY CLAIM DISADVANTAGED YOUTH.

SCHOOLS IN HOE CHE MING CITY CLAIM DISADVANTAGED YOUTH.

FOR HER PART, DIEP VUONG WHO CLAIM DISADVANTAGED YOUTH.

FOR HER PART, DIEP VUONG WHO FLED AFTER THE WAR, PLANS TO FOR HER PART, DIEP VUONG WHO FLED AFTER THE WAR, PLANS TO KEEP PUSHING TO STRENGTH THEN FLED AFTER THE WAR, PLANS TO KEEP PUSHING TO STRENGTH THEN COUNTRY'S ANTI-TRAFFICKING LAWS.

KEEP PUSHING TO STRENGTH THEN COUNTRY'S ANTI-TRAFFICKING LAWS.

>> I BECAME BOTH PERSONS WHEN I COUNTRY'S ANTI-TRAFFICKING LAWS.

>> I BECAME BOTH PERSONS WHEN I WAS 16 AND I SPENT THREE DAYS ON >> I BECAME BOTH PERSONS WHEN I WAS 16 AND I SPENT THREE DAYS ON THE SEA.

WAS 16 AND I SPENT THREE DAYS ON THE SEA.

I ARRIVED IN SINGAPORE, THE SEA.

I ARRIVED IN SINGAPORE, REALIZING THAT I'M STATELESS AND I ARRIVED IN SINGAPORE, REALIZING THAT I'M STATELESS AND ALL THE VULNERABILITIES I SAW REALIZING THAT I'M STATELESS AND ALL THE VULNERABILITIES I SAW DURING THOSE TIMES CERTAINLY.

ALL THE VULNERABILITIES I SAW DURING THOSE TIMES CERTAINLY.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT ON DURING THOSE TIMES CERTAINLY.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT ON ANYONE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT ON ANYONE.

BEING A BUDDHIST IN SOME WAYS, ANYONE.

BEING A BUDDHIST IN SOME WAYS, NOT VERY DEVOUT, I FEEL THAT, BEING A BUDDHIST IN SOME WAYS, NOT VERY DEVOUT, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES TO DO NOT VERY DEVOUT, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES TO DO THINGS AND CLEARLY THERE WAS A YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES TO DO THINGS AND CLEARLY THERE WAS A TIME FOR ME TO STUDY.

THINGS AND CLEARLY THERE WAS A TIME FOR ME TO STUDY.

THERE WAS A TIME FOR ME TO TAKE TIME FOR ME TO STUDY.

THERE WAS A TIME FOR ME TO TAKE THE CROSSING OF THE SEA, TO THERE WAS A TIME FOR ME TO TAKE THE CROSSING OF THE SEA, TO UNDERSTAND HOW VULNERABLE PEOPLE THE CROSSING OF THE SEA, TO UNDERSTAND HOW VULNERABLE PEOPLE ARE.

UNDERSTAND HOW VULNERABLE PEOPLE ARE.

PEOPLE COULD BE.

ARE.

PEOPLE COULD BE.

AND SO THERE'S A TIME TO DO PEOPLE COULD BE.

AND SO THERE'S A TIME TO DO SOMETHING, TO JUST DO IT.

AND SO THERE'S A TIME TO DO SOMETHING, TO JUST DO IT.

>> IN 2013, VIETNAM ARRESTED SOMETHING, TO JUST DO IT.

>> IN 2013, VIETNAM ARRESTED NEARLY 700 ALLEGED TRAFFICKERS >> IN 2013, VIETNAM ARRESTED NEARLY 700 ALLEGED TRAFFICKERS AND IDENTIFIED SOME 900 RESCUED NEARLY 700 ALLEGED TRAFFICKERS AND IDENTIFIED SOME 900 RESCUED VICTIMS.

AND IDENTIFIED SOME 900 RESCUED VICTIMS.

MOST EXPERTS AGREE THERE ARE VICTIMS.

MOST EXPERTS AGREE THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES IN BOTH MOST EXPERTS AGREE THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES IN BOTH ANTI-TRAFFICKING LAWS AND THEIR DEFICIENCIES IN BOTH ANTI-TRAFFICKING LAWS AND THEIR ENFORCEMENT.

ANTI-TRAFFICKING LAWS AND THEIR ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT THOSE NUMBERS REPRESENT ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT THOSE NUMBERS REPRESENT A SMALL FRACTION.

AND THAT THOSE NUMBERS REPRESENT A SMALL FRACTION.

VUONG SAYS IT'S PERHAPS HALF OF A SMALL FRACTION.

VUONG SAYS IT'S PERHAPS HALF OF THE TRUE FIGURES.

VUONG SAYS IT'S PERHAPS HALF OF THE TRUE FIGURES.

THIS IS FRED DE SAM LAZARO IN THE TRUE FIGURES.

THIS IS FRED DE SAM LAZARO IN HANOI FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS THIS IS FRED DE SAM LAZARO IN HANOI FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY."

HANOI FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY."

>>> THIS MONTH IN PHILADELPHIA, NEWSWEEKLY."

>>> THIS MONTH IN PHILADELPHIA, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE >>> THIS MONTH IN PHILADELPHIA, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE ANNOUNCED THAT IT'S CLOSING 16 THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE ANNOUNCED THAT IT'S CLOSING 16 MORE PARISH CHURCHES AND MERGING ANNOUNCED THAT IT'S CLOSING 16 MORE PARISH CHURCHES AND MERGING THEM WITH OTHERS.

MORE PARISH CHURCHES AND MERGING THEM WITH OTHERS.

PART OF A FOUR-YEAR DOWNSIZING THEM WITH OTHERS.

PART OF A FOUR-YEAR DOWNSIZING CAMPAIGN.

PART OF A FOUR-YEAR DOWNSIZING CAMPAIGN.

MEANWHILE, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, CAMPAIGN.

MEANWHILE, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, STRUGGLES ARE UNDERWAY TO SAVE MEANWHILE, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, STRUGGLES ARE UNDERWAY TO SAVE HISTORIC CHURCH BUILDINGS AS STRUGGLES ARE UNDERWAY TO SAVE HISTORIC CHURCH BUILDINGS AS CONGREGATIONS AND THEIR HISTORIC CHURCH BUILDINGS AS CONGREGATIONS AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS DWINDLE.

CONGREGATIONS AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS DWINDLE.

THERE'S A NATIONAL NONPROFIT CONTRIBUTIONS DWINDLE.

THERE'S A NATIONAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ALSO BASED IN THERE'S A NATIONAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ALSO BASED IN PHILADELPHIA CALLED PARTNERS FOR ORGANIZATION ALSO BASED IN PHILADELPHIA CALLED PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES THAT'S HELPING PHILADELPHIA CALLED PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES THAT'S HELPING FIND NEW USES FOR OLD AND SACRED PLACES THAT'S HELPING FIND NEW USES FOR OLD AND BELOVED CHURCH BUILDINGS.

FIND NEW USES FOR OLD AND BELOVED CHURCH BUILDINGS.

SAUL GONZALES REPORTS.

BELOVED CHURCH BUILDINGS.

SAUL GONZALES REPORTS.

>> PHILADELPHIA IS A CITY RICH SAUL GONZALES REPORTS.

>> PHILADELPHIA IS A CITY RICH IN LANDMARKS.

>> PHILADELPHIA IS A CITY RICH IN LANDMARKS.

FROM INDEPENDENCE HALL, TO THE IN LANDMARKS.

FROM INDEPENDENCE HALL, TO THE BEN FRANKLIN PARKWAY TO THE FROM INDEPENDENCE HALL, TO THE BEN FRANKLIN PARKWAY TO THE WORKS OF PLAYFUL PUBLIC ART.

BEN FRANKLIN PARKWAY TO THE WORKS OF PLAYFUL PUBLIC ART.

THE CITY OF BROTHERLY LOVE IS WORKS OF PLAYFUL PUBLIC ART.

THE CITY OF BROTHERLY LOVE IS ALSO HOME TO AN EXTRAORDINARY THE CITY OF BROTHERLY LOVE IS ALSO HOME TO AN EXTRAORDINARY VARIETY OF IMPOSING AND HISTORIC ALSO HOME TO AN EXTRAORDINARY VARIETY OF IMPOSING AND HISTORIC HOUSES OF WORSHIP, SCATTERED VARIETY OF IMPOSING AND HISTORIC HOUSES OF WORSHIP, SCATTERED ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

HOUSES OF WORSHIP, SCATTERED ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT MANY OF THESE GRAND ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT MANY OF THESE GRAND BUILDINGS IT IS LONG CLOSED AND BUT MANY OF THESE GRAND BUILDINGS IT IS LONG CLOSED AND DERELICT WITH BROKEN WINDOWS, BUILDINGS IT IS LONG CLOSED AND DERELICT WITH BROKEN WINDOWS, LOCKED DOORS AND FOR SALE SIGNS DERELICT WITH BROKEN WINDOWS, LOCKED DOORS AND FOR SALE SIGNS ON THEM.

LOCKED DOORS AND FOR SALE SIGNS ON THEM.

OTHER CHURCHES BOTH CLOSED AND ON THEM.

OTHER CHURCHES BOTH CLOSED AND OPEN ARE IN SIMPLY TERRIBLE OTHER CHURCHES BOTH CLOSED AND OPEN ARE IN SIMPLY TERRIBLE CONDITION.

OPEN ARE IN SIMPLY TERRIBLE CONDITION.

TAKE THE 19th STREET BAPTIST CONDITION.

TAKE THE 19th STREET BAPTIST CHURCH IN SOUTH PHILADELPHIA.

TAKE THE 19th STREET BAPTIST CHURCH IN SOUTH PHILADELPHIA.

BUILT IN 1874, IT WAS PARTLY CHURCH IN SOUTH PHILADELPHIA.

BUILT IN 1874, IT WAS PARTLY DESIGNED BY FRANK FURNESS, ONE BUILT IN 1874, IT WAS PARTLY DESIGNED BY FRANK FURNESS, ONE OF THE CITY'S MOST CELEBRATED DESIGNED BY FRANK FURNESS, ONE OF THE CITY'S MOST CELEBRATED ARCHITECTS.

OF THE CITY'S MOST CELEBRATED ARCHITECTS.

WILBUR WINBORNE IS 19th STREET'S ARCHITECTS.

WILBUR WINBORNE IS 19th STREET'S PASTOR.

WILBUR WINBORNE IS 19th STREET'S PASTOR.

>> IT'S LIKE A VERSION OF THIS PASTOR.

>> IT'S LIKE A VERSION OF THIS OLD HOUSE.

>> IT'S LIKE A VERSION OF THIS OLD HOUSE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT A HOUSE IN A OLD HOUSE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT A HOUSE IN A STATE OF DETERIORATION AND WE WHEN YOU LOOK AT A HOUSE IN A STATE OF DETERIORATION AND WE NEED PEOPLE AND RESOURCES TO STATE OF DETERIORATION AND WE NEED PEOPLE AND RESOURCES TO COME AND TRY TO -- TRY TO HELP NEED PEOPLE AND RESOURCES TO COME AND TRY TO -- TRY TO HELP AND GET THIS HOUSE OF WORSHIP COME AND TRY TO -- TRY TO HELP AND GET THIS HOUSE OF WORSHIP BACK ON ITS FEET AGAIN.

AND GET THIS HOUSE OF WORSHIP BACK ON ITS FEET AGAIN.

>> THIS OLD HOUSE TIMES 100.

BACK ON ITS FEET AGAIN.

>> THIS OLD HOUSE TIMES 100.

>> TIMES 100.

>> THIS OLD HOUSE TIMES 100.

>> TIMES 100.

THIS OLD HOUSE TIMES 100.

>> TIMES 100.

THIS OLD HOUSE TIMES 100.

>> LOOK INSIDE THE CHURCH AND THIS OLD HOUSE TIMES 100.

>> LOOK INSIDE THE CHURCH AND YOU CAN WHY THE CONGREGATION >> LOOK INSIDE THE CHURCH AND YOU CAN WHY THE CONGREGATION CAN'T HOLD SERVICES AND WHY THE YOU CAN WHY THE CONGREGATION CAN'T HOLD SERVICES AND WHY THE CHURCH NEEDS UPWARDS OF CAN'T HOLD SERVICES AND WHY THE CHURCH NEEDS UPWARDS OF $3 MILLION IN RENOVATION WORK CHURCH NEEDS UPWARDS OF $3 MILLION IN RENOVATION WORK DONE.

$3 MILLION IN RENOVATION WORK DONE.

HOW DID YOUR CHURCH GET IN THE DONE.

HOW DID YOUR CHURCH GET IN THE SHAPE THAT IT'S IN?

HOW DID YOUR CHURCH GET IN THE SHAPE THAT IT'S IN?

>> WELL, YEARS OF NEGLECT.

SHAPE THAT IT'S IN?

>> WELL, YEARS OF NEGLECT.

NOT HAVING THE RESOURCES THAT WE >> WELL, YEARS OF NEGLECT.

NOT HAVING THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE, SO BETWEEN NOT HAVING THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE, SO BETWEEN NEGLECT, LACK OF RESOURCES AND NEEDED TO HAVE, SO BETWEEN NEGLECT, LACK OF RESOURCES AND HELP AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

NEGLECT, LACK OF RESOURCES AND HELP AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

>> ALTHOUGH THIS CHURCH'S HELP AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

>> ALTHOUGH THIS CHURCH'S CONDITION IS EXTREME, RELIGIOUS >> ALTHOUGH THIS CHURCH'S CONDITION IS EXTREME, RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND ARCHITECTURAL CONDITION IS EXTREME, RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND ARCHITECTURAL PRESERVATIONISTS SAY TOO MANY LEADERS AND ARCHITECTURAL PRESERVATIONISTS SAY TOO MANY OTHER CHURCHES IN AMERICA AND PRESERVATIONISTS SAY TOO MANY OTHER CHURCHES IN AMERICA AND OTHER AMERICAN CITIES ARE IN OTHER CHURCHES IN AMERICA AND OTHER AMERICAN CITIES ARE IN SIMILAR SHAPE.

OTHER AMERICAN CITIES ARE IN SIMILAR SHAPE.

>> I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THIS SIMILAR SHAPE.

>> I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS, I WOULD >> I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS, I WOULD SAY.

IS A NATIONAL CRISIS, I WOULD SAY.

IT REALLY IS A NATIONAL CRISIS.

SAY.

IT REALLY IS A NATIONAL CRISIS.

>> BOB JAEGER IS PRESIDENT OF IT REALLY IS A NATIONAL CRISIS.

>> BOB JAEGER IS PRESIDENT OF THE PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES.

>> BOB JAEGER IS PRESIDENT OF THE PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES.

IT'S A PHILADELPHIA-BASED THE PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES.

IT'S A PHILADELPHIA-BASED NATIONAL NONPROFIT, DEDICATED TO IT'S A PHILADELPHIA-BASED NATIONAL NONPROFIT, DEDICATED TO PROTECTING AMERICA'S HISTORIC NATIONAL NONPROFIT, DEDICATED TO PROTECTING AMERICA'S HISTORIC AND ENDANGERED HOUSES OF PROTECTING AMERICA'S HISTORIC AND ENDANGERED HOUSES OF WORSHIP.

AND ENDANGERED HOUSES OF WORSHIP.

>> YOUR UNIQUENESS THERE -- WORSHIP.

>> YOUR UNIQUENESS THERE -- >> CONGREGATIONS HAVE SHRUNK SO >> YOUR UNIQUENESS THERE -- >> CONGREGATIONS HAVE SHRUNK SO MUCH AND BUDGETS HAVE SHRUNK SO >> CONGREGATIONS HAVE SHRUNK SO MUCH AND BUDGETS HAVE SHRUNK SO MUCH IT'S HARD FOR CONGREGATIONS MUCH AND BUDGETS HAVE SHRUNK SO MUCH IT'S HARD FOR CONGREGATIONS TO KEEP UP WITH THE BUILDINGS, MUCH IT'S HARD FOR CONGREGATIONS TO KEEP UP WITH THE BUILDINGS, TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM OR TO TO KEEP UP WITH THE BUILDINGS, TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM OR TO USE THEM WELL.

TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM OR TO USE THEM WELL.

AND UNLESS THEY DO SOMETHING USE THEM WELL.

AND UNLESS THEY DO SOMETHING CREATIVE AND BOLD, MANY OF THEM AND UNLESS THEY DO SOMETHING CREATIVE AND BOLD, MANY OF THEM WILL CLOSE OR MERGE IN THE NEXT CREATIVE AND BOLD, MANY OF THEM WILL CLOSE OR MERGE IN THE NEXT 10 OR 20 YEARS.

WILL CLOSE OR MERGE IN THE NEXT 10 OR 20 YEARS.

>> IN PHILADELPHIA ALONE, WITH 10 OR 20 YEARS.

>> IN PHILADELPHIA ALONE, WITH AN ESTIMATED 800 HOUSES OF >> IN PHILADELPHIA ALONE, WITH AN ESTIMATED 800 HOUSES OF WORSHIP, JAEGER ESTIMATES AN ESTIMATED 800 HOUSES OF WORSHIP, JAEGER ESTIMATES BETWEEN 1 TO 200 CHURCHES ARE AT WORSHIP, JAEGER ESTIMATES BETWEEN 1 TO 200 CHURCHES ARE AT RISK OF CLOSING.

BETWEEN 1 TO 200 CHURCHES ARE AT RISK OF CLOSING.

THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED TO NORTH RISK OF CLOSING.

THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED TO NORTH PHILADELPHIA'S ASCENSION OF OUR THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED TO NORTH PHILADELPHIA'S ASCENSION OF OUR LORD ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

PHILADELPHIA'S ASCENSION OF OUR LORD ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

IT SHUT ITS DOORS PERMANENTLY IN LORD ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

IT SHUT ITS DOORS PERMANENTLY IN 2012 AFTER YEARS OF FINANCIAL IT SHUT ITS DOORS PERMANENTLY IN 2012 AFTER YEARS OF FINANCIAL TROUBLES.

2012 AFTER YEARS OF FINANCIAL TROUBLES.

BUT EVEN AS ITS FORTUNES TROUBLES.

BUT EVEN AS ITS FORTUNES DECLINED, THE CHURCH REMAINED A BUT EVEN AS ITS FORTUNES DECLINED, THE CHURCH REMAINED A CROSSROADS OF COMMUNITY LIFE IN DECLINED, THE CHURCH REMAINED A CROSSROADS OF COMMUNITY LIFE IN THE LARGELY POOR CROSSROADS OF COMMUNITY LIFE IN THE LARGELY POOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND LATINO THE LARGELY POOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND LATINO NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS RESIDENT JEFF AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND LATINO NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS RESIDENT JEFF JOHNSON.

NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS RESIDENT JEFF JOHNSON.

>> I USED TO GO TO THE CHURCH JOHNSON.

>> I USED TO GO TO THE CHURCH WHEN I WAS YOUNG.

>> I USED TO GO TO THE CHURCH WHEN I WAS YOUNG.

IT'S A WASTED SPACE, THEY SHOULD WHEN I WAS YOUNG.

IT'S A WASTED SPACE, THEY SHOULD OPEN IT BACK UP AND DO SOMETHING IT'S A WASTED SPACE, THEY SHOULD OPEN IT BACK UP AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

OPEN IT BACK UP AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

>> BOB JAEGER SAYS EVEN PEOPLE WITH IT.

>> BOB JAEGER SAYS EVEN PEOPLE WHO NEVER STEP INSIDE A HOUSE OF >> BOB JAEGER SAYS EVEN PEOPLE WHO NEVER STEP INSIDE A HOUSE OF WORSHIP SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE WHO NEVER STEP INSIDE A HOUSE OF WORSHIP SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE LOSS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD'S SENSE WORSHIP SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE LOSS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD'S SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHEN A CHURCH, LOSS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD'S SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHEN A CHURCH, SYNAGOGUE OR TEMPLE CLOSES.

OF COMMUNITY WHEN A CHURCH, SYNAGOGUE OR TEMPLE CLOSES.

>> YOU MAY LOVE THE SYNAGOGUE OR TEMPLE CLOSES.

>> YOU MAY LOVE THE ARCHITECTURE.

>> YOU MAY LOVE THE ARCHITECTURE.

YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT IT ARCHITECTURE.

YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT IT HOUSES A CONCERT OR RECITAL YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT IT HOUSES A CONCERT OR RECITAL EVERY MONTH.

HOUSES A CONCERT OR RECITAL EVERY MONTH.

YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT KID EVERY MONTH.

YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT KID GOES TO DAY CARE.

YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT KID GOES TO DAY CARE.

YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT THE GOES TO DAY CARE.

YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT THE HOMELESS ARE SHELTERED THERE IN YOU MAY LOVE THE FACT THAT THE HOMELESS ARE SHELTERED THERE IN THE WINTERTIME.

HOMELESS ARE SHELTERED THERE IN THE WINTERTIME.

SO THERE ARE WAYS -- YOU MAY NOT THE WINTERTIME.

SO THERE ARE WAYS -- YOU MAY NOT BE A MEMBER, BUT YOU CAN SAY, SO THERE ARE WAYS -- YOU MAY NOT BE A MEMBER, BUT YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PLACE THAT BE A MEMBER, BUT YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PLACE THAT MATTERS.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PLACE THAT MATTERS.

>> TO SAVE CHURCHES ON THE MATTERS.

>> TO SAVE CHURCHES ON THE BRINK, STAFFERS OF PARTNERS FOR >> TO SAVE CHURCHES ON THE BRINK, STAFFERS OF PARTNERS FOR SACRED PARTNERS, HELP NEGOTIATE BRINK, STAFFERS OF PARTNERS FOR SACRED PARTNERS, HELP NEGOTIATE DEALS ON BEHALF OF THE HOUSES OF SACRED PARTNERS, HELP NEGOTIATE DEALS ON BEHALF OF THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP SO THEY CAN EARN EXTRA DEALS ON BEHALF OF THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP SO THEY CAN EARN EXTRA INCOME BY INVITING OTHER TENANTS WORSHIP SO THEY CAN EARN EXTRA INCOME BY INVITING OTHER TENANTS TO SHARE THEIR SPACES.

INCOME BY INVITING OTHER TENANTS TO SHARE THEIR SPACES.

RENTING THEM OUT TO SOCIAL TO SHARE THEIR SPACES.

RENTING THEM OUT TO SOCIAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND ART RENTING THEM OUT TO SOCIAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND ART GROUPS FOR INSTANCE THAT'S WHAT SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND ART GROUPS FOR INSTANCE THAT'S WHAT THE PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES GROUPS FOR INSTANCE THAT'S WHAT THE PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES HELPED TO DO FOR PHILADELPHIA'S THE PARTNERS FOR SACRED PLACES HELPED TO DO FOR PHILADELPHIA'S MASSIVE SHILOH BAPTIST CHURCH.

HELPED TO DO FOR PHILADELPHIA'S MASSIVE SHILOH BAPTIST CHURCH.

LIKE SO MANY OTHER HOUSES OF MASSIVE SHILOH BAPTIST CHURCH.

LIKE SO MANY OTHER HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN THIS CITY, IT'S LIKE SO MANY OTHER HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN THIS CITY, IT'S CRUMBLING AND DELAP DATED.

WORSHIP IN THIS CITY, IT'S CRUMBLING AND DELAP DATED.

AND THE CHURCH'S CONGREGATION IS CRUMBLING AND DELAP DATED.

AND THE CHURCH'S CONGREGATION IS NOW SO SMALL, THEY RARELY USE AND THE CHURCH'S CONGREGATION IS NOW SO SMALL, THEY RARELY USE THE MAIN WORSHIP SPACE BECAUSE NOW SO SMALL, THEY RARELY USE THE MAIN WORSHIP SPACE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF HEATING IT.

THE MAIN WORSHIP SPACE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF HEATING IT.

BUT ON THE CHURCH'S SECOND OF THE COST OF HEATING IT.

BUT ON THE CHURCH'S SECOND FLOOR, THERE ARE SIGHTS AND BUT ON THE CHURCH'S SECOND FLOOR, THERE ARE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS OF NEW LIFE.

FLOOR, THERE ARE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS OF NEW LIFE.

TO EARN EXTRA INCOME, THE CHURCH SOUNDS OF NEW LIFE.

TO EARN EXTRA INCOME, THE CHURCH HAS RENTED OUT THIS MASSIVE TO EARN EXTRA INCOME, THE CHURCH HAS RENTED OUT THIS MASSIVE SPACE TO JUNK, AN AVANT-GARDE HAS RENTED OUT THIS MASSIVE SPACE TO JUNK, AN AVANT-GARDE DANCE TROUPE THAT PERFORMS IN SPACE TO JUNK, AN AVANT-GARDE DANCE TROUPE THAT PERFORMS IN THE COUNTRY.

DANCE TROUPE THAT PERFORMS IN THE COUNTRY.

>> JUNK BRINGS IT WHEREVER WE THE COUNTRY.

>> JUNK BRINGS IT WHEREVER WE GO.

>> JUNK BRINGS IT WHEREVER WE GO.

>> THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR BRIAN GO.

>> THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR BRIAN SAUNDERS FELL IN LOVE WITH THE >> THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR BRIAN SAUNDERS FELL IN LOVE WITH THE SPACE, KNOWING IT WOULD BE SAUNDERS FELL IN LOVE WITH THE SPACE, KNOWING IT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR HIS HIGH-FLYING SPACE, KNOWING IT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR HIS HIGH-FLYING PERFORMERS.

PERFECT FOR HIS HIGH-FLYING PERFORMERS.

BUT HE ALSO HAD DOUBTS WHETHER A PERFORMERS.

BUT HE ALSO HAD DOUBTS WHETHER A RISK TAKING THEATER GROUP COULD BUT HE ALSO HAD DOUBTS WHETHER A RISK TAKING THEATER GROUP COULD SHARE A SACRED SPACE WITH A RISK TAKING THEATER GROUP COULD SHARE A SACRED SPACE WITH A CONGREGATION.

SHARE A SACRED SPACE WITH A CONGREGATION.

>> JUNK IS KNOWN FOR PUSHING CONGREGATION.

>> JUNK IS KNOWN FOR PUSHING BOUNDARIES.

>> JUNK IS KNOWN FOR PUSHING BOUNDARIES.

SO THE IDEA OF OUR -- YOU KNOW, BOUNDARIES.

SO THE IDEA OF OUR -- YOU KNOW, HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO FIND COMMON SO THE IDEA OF OUR -- YOU KNOW, HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO FIND COMMON GROUND INSIDE A CHURCH SOUNDED HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO FIND COMMON GROUND INSIDE A CHURCH SOUNDED CHALLENGING.

GROUND INSIDE A CHURCH SOUNDED CHALLENGING.

BUT WHEN WE REALLY SAT DOWN AT CHALLENGING.

BUT WHEN WE REALLY SAT DOWN AT THE TABLE, WE SHARED MORE IN BUT WHEN WE REALLY SAT DOWN AT THE TABLE, WE SHARED MORE IN COMMON THAN WE KNEW.

THE TABLE, WE SHARED MORE IN COMMON THAN WE KNEW.

>> THE CHURCH AND PERFORMERS COMMON THAN WE KNEW.

>> THE CHURCH AND PERFORMERS REALIZED THEY COULD HELP EACH >> THE CHURCH AND PERFORMERS REALIZED THEY COULD HELP EACH OTHER.

REALIZED THEY COULD HELP EACH OTHER.

JUNK NEEDED OFFICES AND A BIG, OTHER.

JUNK NEEDED OFFICES AND A BIG, AFFORDABLE REHEARSAL SPACE RIGHT JUNK NEEDED OFFICES AND A BIG, AFFORDABLE REHEARSAL SPACE RIGHT IN THE CITY.

AFFORDABLE REHEARSAL SPACE RIGHT IN THE CITY.

THE CHURCH NEEDED THE SENSE OF IN THE CITY.

THE CHURCH NEEDED THE SENSE OF LIFE AND EXTRA MONEY JUNK'S THE CHURCH NEEDED THE SENSE OF LIFE AND EXTRA MONEY JUNK'S PRESENCE AND RENT WOULD BRING LIFE AND EXTRA MONEY JUNK'S PRESENCE AND RENT WOULD BRING IN.

PRESENCE AND RENT WOULD BRING IN.

REVEREND EDWARD SPARKMAN IS IN.

REVEREND EDWARD SPARKMAN IS SHILOH'S PASTOR.

REVEREND EDWARD SPARKMAN IS SHILOH'S PASTOR.

>> IT IS BRINGING IN SHILOH'S PASTOR.

>> IT IS BRINGING IN APPROXIMATELY $30,000 OF EXTRA >> IT IS BRINGING IN APPROXIMATELY $30,000 OF EXTRA INCOME A YEAR.

APPROXIMATELY $30,000 OF EXTRA INCOME A YEAR.

A YEAR.

INCOME A YEAR.

A YEAR.

WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE BEFORE WE A YEAR.

WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE BEFORE WE STARTED THIS.

WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE BEFORE WE STARTED THIS.

>> AND THIS $30,000 MATTERS?

STARTED THIS.

>> AND THIS $30,000 MATTERS?

>> OH, YES.

>> AND THIS $30,000 MATTERS?

>> OH, YES.

YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING >> OH, YES.

YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL INCOME.

YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL INCOME.

WE REALIZE THAT NOW.

WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL INCOME.

WE REALIZE THAT NOW.

>> BOB JAEGER THINKS THAT'S AN WE REALIZE THAT NOW.

>> BOB JAEGER THINKS THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT OTHER OLDER >> BOB JAEGER THINKS THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT OTHER OLDER URBAN CHURCHES WITH SHRINKING EXAMPLE OF WHAT OTHER OLDER URBAN CHURCHES WITH SHRINKING CONGREGATIONS COULD AND SHOULD URBAN CHURCHES WITH SHRINKING CONGREGATIONS COULD AND SHOULD BE DOING.

CONGREGATIONS COULD AND SHOULD BE DOING.

>> THEIR BUILDINGS CAN STAY BE DOING.

>> THEIR BUILDINGS CAN STAY ALIVE.

>> THEIR BUILDINGS CAN STAY ALIVE.

THEY CAN BE CARED FOR AND THEY ALIVE.

THEY CAN BE CARED FOR AND THEY CAN BE SHARED IN NEW WAYS.

THEY CAN BE CARED FOR AND THEY CAN BE SHARED IN NEW WAYS.

THEY CAN KIND OF LIVE OUT THEIR CAN BE SHARED IN NEW WAYS.

THEY CAN KIND OF LIVE OUT THEIR PUBLIC PURPOSE IN NEW WAYS THEY CAN KIND OF LIVE OUT THEIR PUBLIC PURPOSE IN NEW WAYS THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

PUBLIC PURPOSE IN NEW WAYS THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

>> BUT IN CITIES WITH REVIVED THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

>> BUT IN CITIES WITH REVIVED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL REAL >> BUT IN CITIES WITH REVIVED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE MARKETS THERE ARE PEOPLE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE MARKETS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SEE OPPORTUNITIES, PROFITS ESTATE MARKETS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SEE OPPORTUNITIES, PROFITS AND CURB APPEAL IN ALL OF THE WHO SEE OPPORTUNITIES, PROFITS AND CURB APPEAL IN ALL OF THE OLD AND ABANDONED CHURCHES.

AND CURB APPEAL IN ALL OF THE OLD AND ABANDONED CHURCHES.

THE KEY THOUGH AS THEY SAY IN OLD AND ABANDONED CHURCHES.

THE KEY THOUGH AS THEY SAY IN REAL ESTATE IS LOCATION, THE KEY THOUGH AS THEY SAY IN REAL ESTATE IS LOCATION, REAL ESTATE IS LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION AND TURNING LOCATION, LOCATION AND TURNING THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP INTO LOCATION, LOCATION AND TURNING THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP INTO PLACES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP INTO PLACES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FAITH.

PLACES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FAITH.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AT WHAT WITH FAITH.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AT WHAT WAS ST. MATTHEW'S BAPTIST CHURCH THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING AT WHAT WAS ST. MATTHEW'S BAPTIST CHURCH IN SOUTH PHILADELPHIA.

WAS ST. MATTHEW'S BAPTIST CHURCH IN SOUTH PHILADELPHIA.

CLOSED IN 2011, IT'S NOW BEING IN SOUTH PHILADELPHIA.

CLOSED IN 2011, IT'S NOW BEING TURNED INTO OVER 30 LUXURY CLOSED IN 2011, IT'S NOW BEING TURNED INTO OVER 30 LUXURY APARTMENT UNITS FOR YOUNG TURNED INTO OVER 30 LUXURY APARTMENT UNITS FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS.

APARTMENT UNITS FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS.

SO WHEN YOU SAW THIS BUILDING, PROFESSIONALS.

SO WHEN YOU SAW THIS BUILDING, WHAT IS IT THAT ATTRACTED YOU TO SO WHEN YOU SAW THIS BUILDING, WHAT IS IT THAT ATTRACTED YOU TO IT IMMEDIATELY?

WHAT IS IT THAT ATTRACTED YOU TO IT IMMEDIATELY?

>> WELL, IMMEDIATELY IT'S THE IT IMMEDIATELY?

>> WELL, IMMEDIATELY IT'S THE EXTERIOR.

>> WELL, IMMEDIATELY IT'S THE EXTERIOR.

THE STONE, THE DETAIL.

EXTERIOR.

THE STONE, THE DETAIL.

THAT ICONIC CLOCK TOWER THAT IS THE STONE, THE DETAIL.

THAT ICONIC CLOCK TOWER THAT IS SO FANTASTIC.

THAT ICONIC CLOCK TOWER THAT IS SO FANTASTIC.

YOU SEE IT FROM EVERYWHERE.

SO FANTASTIC.

YOU SEE IT FROM EVERYWHERE.

THEN ITS SHEER SIZE.

YOU SEE IT FROM EVERYWHERE.

THEN ITS SHEER SIZE.

THIS IS NOT A LITTLE CHAPEL.

THEN ITS SHEER SIZE.

THIS IS NOT A LITTLE CHAPEL.

THIS IS A GIANT BUILDING.

THIS IS NOT A LITTLE CHAPEL.

THIS IS A GIANT BUILDING.

>> THE MAN BEHIND THIS CHURCH THIS IS A GIANT BUILDING.

>> THE MAN BEHIND THIS CHURCH MAKEOVER IS PHILADELPHIA-BASED >> THE MAN BEHIND THIS CHURCH MAKEOVER IS PHILADELPHIA-BASED REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER ALAN MAKEOVER IS PHILADELPHIA-BASED REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER ALAN BARZILAY, WHO IS SPENDING REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER ALAN BARZILAY, WHO IS SPENDING $10 MILLION ON THE PROJECT.

BARZILAY, WHO IS SPENDING $10 MILLION ON THE PROJECT.

>> THIS IS THE VERY TOP OF THE $10 MILLION ON THE PROJECT.

>> THIS IS THE VERY TOP OF THE WORSHIP SPACE.

>> THIS IS THE VERY TOP OF THE WORSHIP SPACE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WORSHIP SPACE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THIS IS THE SECOND STORY OF THE >> ABSOLUTELY.

THIS IS THE SECOND STORY OF THE BILEVEL APARTMENTS AND YOU CAN THIS IS THE SECOND STORY OF THE BILEVEL APARTMENTS AND YOU CAN SEE THE AMAZING ARCH DETAILS OF BILEVEL APARTMENTS AND YOU CAN SEE THE AMAZING ARCH DETAILS OF THE CEILING THAT GOES SEE THE AMAZING ARCH DETAILS OF THE CEILING THAT GOES THROUGHOUT.

THE CEILING THAT GOES THROUGHOUT.

>> BARZILAY IS NOT ALONE IN THROUGHOUT.

>> BARZILAY IS NOT ALONE IN DOING THIS KIND OF WORK.

>> BARZILAY IS NOT ALONE IN DOING THIS KIND OF WORK.

CHURCHES HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO DOING THIS KIND OF WORK.

CHURCHES HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO SWANK SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, CHURCHES HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO SWANK SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, STORES AND COMMERCIAL SPACES.

SWANK SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, STORES AND COMMERCIAL SPACES.

EVEN A BREWERY AND PUB.

STORES AND COMMERCIAL SPACES.

EVEN A BREWERY AND PUB.

IN PHILADELPHIA, BARZILAY THINKS EVEN A BREWERY AND PUB.

IN PHILADELPHIA, BARZILAY THINKS THE PROPERTY POSSIBILITIES ARE IN PHILADELPHIA, BARZILAY THINKS THE PROPERTY POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS BECAUSE OF THE STOCK OF THE PROPERTY POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS BECAUSE OF THE STOCK OF OLD AND ABANDONED HOUSES OF ENDLESS BECAUSE OF THE STOCK OF OLD AND ABANDONED HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN THE CITY.

OLD AND ABANDONED HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN THE CITY.

>> THEY HAVE TO BE OF SCALE.

WORSHIP IN THE CITY.

>> THEY HAVE TO BE OF SCALE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE GOOD >> THEY HAVE TO BE OF SCALE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE GOOD LOCATIONS.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE GOOD LOCATIONS.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY LOCATIONS.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT'S WORKING WITH YOU.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT'S WORKING WITH YOU.

BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY THAT'S WORKING WITH YOU.

BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S A NICHE BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S A NICHE THAT WE ARE SPECIALIZING IN AND CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S A NICHE THAT WE ARE SPECIALIZING IN AND THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY THAT WE ARE SPECIALIZING IN AND THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY CHURCHES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY CHURCHES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY EXAMINING TO REDEVELOP.

CHURCHES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY EXAMINING TO REDEVELOP.

>> BUT SITTING WITH ME IN A EXAMINING TO REDEVELOP.

>> BUT SITTING WITH ME IN A GRAND DOWNTOWN PHILADELPHIA >> BUT SITTING WITH ME IN A GRAND DOWNTOWN PHILADELPHIA CHURCH, BOB JAEGER HAS GRAND DOWNTOWN PHILADELPHIA CHURCH, BOB JAEGER HAS AMBIVALENT FEELINGS ABOUT SOME CHURCH, BOB JAEGER HAS AMBIVALENT FEELINGS ABOUT SOME CHURCH CONVERSIONS.

AMBIVALENT FEELINGS ABOUT SOME CHURCH CONVERSIONS.

>> CONDOMINIUMS TEND TO CUT UP CHURCH CONVERSIONS.

>> CONDOMINIUMS TEND TO CUT UP THE SPACE.

>> CONDOMINIUMS TEND TO CUT UP THE SPACE.

YOU KNOW, YOU PUT UP THE WALLS THE SPACE.

YOU KNOW, YOU PUT UP THE WALLS AND THE GLORY OF THE SPACE LIKE YOU KNOW, YOU PUT UP THE WALLS AND THE GLORY OF THE SPACE LIKE THIS WOULD BE LOST.

AND THE GLORY OF THE SPACE LIKE THIS WOULD BE LOST.

BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY BETTER THIS WOULD BE LOST.

BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY BETTER THAN DEMOLITION.

BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY BETTER THAN DEMOLITION.

>> BACK AT 19th STREET BAPTIST THAN DEMOLITION.

>> BACK AT 19th STREET BAPTIST CHURCH, A SMALL CREW OF >> BACK AT 19th STREET BAPTIST CHURCH, A SMALL CREW OF VOLUNTEERS DOES WHAT IT CAN TO CHURCH, A SMALL CREW OF VOLUNTEERS DOES WHAT IT CAN TO SHORE UP THE BUILDING.

VOLUNTEERS DOES WHAT IT CAN TO SHORE UP THE BUILDING.

USING WHAT FUNDS CAN SHORE UP THE BUILDING.

USING WHAT FUNDS CAN CONGREGATION CAN RAISE.

USING WHAT FUNDS CAN CONGREGATION CAN RAISE.

PASTOR WINBORNE WHO CAME TO THIS CONGREGATION CAN RAISE.

PASTOR WINBORNE WHO CAME TO THIS CHURCH AFTER MUCH OF THE DAMAGE PASTOR WINBORNE WHO CAME TO THIS CHURCH AFTER MUCH OF THE DAMAGE HAD BEEN DONE SAYS HE'D LOVE TO CHURCH AFTER MUCH OF THE DAMAGE HAD BEEN DONE SAYS HE'D LOVE TO SHARE THE CHURCH WITH OTHER HAD BEEN DONE SAYS HE'D LOVE TO SHARE THE CHURCH WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO BRING IN NEEDED SHARE THE CHURCH WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO BRING IN NEEDED INCOME.

ORGANIZATIONS TO BRING IN NEEDED INCOME.

HE ALSO SAYS HE'LL DO EVERYTHING INCOME.

HE ALSO SAYS HE'LL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO MAKE SURE THIS HE ALSO SAYS HE'LL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO MAKE SURE THIS HISTORIC CHURCH REMAINS A IN HIS POWER TO MAKE SURE THIS HISTORIC CHURCH REMAINS A CHURCH.

HISTORIC CHURCH REMAINS A CHURCH.

>> IF A DEVELOPER CAME TO YOU CHURCH.

>> IF A DEVELOPER CAME TO YOU AND SAID, $10 MILLION OR >> IF A DEVELOPER CAME TO YOU AND SAID, $10 MILLION OR $7 MILLION OR $6 MILLION FOR AND SAID, $10 MILLION OR $7 MILLION OR $6 MILLION FOR YOUR CHURCH, BUT I WANT TO TURN $7 MILLION OR $6 MILLION FOR YOUR CHURCH, BUT I WANT TO TURN IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY YOUR CHURCH, BUT I WANT TO TURN IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE TEMPTING.

DIFFERENT, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE TEMPTING.

>> NOT QUITE.

WOULD BE TEMPTING.

>> NOT QUITE.

NOT QUITE.

>> NOT QUITE.

NOT QUITE.

IT'S A HISTORY.

NOT QUITE.

IT'S A HISTORY.

WE WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY.

IT'S A HISTORY.

WE WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY.

CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT.

WE WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY.

CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT.

CAN'T PUT A PRICE.

CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT.

CAN'T PUT A PRICE.

>> FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS CAN'T PUT A PRICE.

>> FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," I'M SAUL GONZALES >> FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," I'M SAUL GONZALES IN PHILADELPHIA.

NEWSWEEKLY," I'M SAUL GONZALES IN PHILADELPHIA.

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