Bloodless Surgery; Poet Christian Wiman; Shavuot
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> COMING UP, BETTY ROLLIN ♪ >>> COMING UP, BETTY ROLLIN REPORTS ON DOCTORS PERFORMING >>> COMING UP, BETTY ROLLIN REPORTS ON DOCTORS PERFORMING BLOODLESS SURGERY ON JEHOVAH'S REPORTS ON DOCTORS PERFORMING BLOODLESS SURGERY ON JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WHOSE RELIGION FORBIDS BLOODLESS SURGERY ON JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WHOSE RELIGION FORBIDS BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
MANY SAY WITNESSES WHOSE RELIGION FORBIDS BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
MANY SAY THAT IS GOOD MEDICINE.
BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
MANY SAY THAT IS GOOD MEDICINE.
>>> ALSO JUDY VALENTI LOOKS AT THAT IS GOOD MEDICINE.
>>> ALSO JUDY VALENTI LOOKS AT THE SPIRITUAL JOURNEY OF >>> ALSO JUDY VALENTI LOOKS AT THE SPIRITUAL JOURNEY OF CHRISTIAN WIMAN, A POET, THE SPIRITUAL JOURNEY OF CHRISTIAN WIMAN, A POET, TEACHER, HUSBAND, AND FATHER WHO CHRISTIAN WIMAN, A POET, TEACHER, HUSBAND, AND FATHER WHO HAS INCURABLE CANCER.
TEACHER, HUSBAND, AND FATHER WHO HAS INCURABLE CANCER.
>> I HAVE CURSED MIGHTILY AND HAS INCURABLE CANCER.
>> I HAVE CURSED MIGHTILY AND HAVE BEEN FURIOUS, HAVE CURSED >> I HAVE CURSED MIGHTILY AND HAVE BEEN FURIOUS, HAVE CURSED GOD JUST LIKE ANY OLD TESTAMENT HAVE BEEN FURIOUS, HAVE CURSED GOD JUST LIKE ANY OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET.
GOD JUST LIKE ANY OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET.
>>> AND THE JEWISH HOLIDAY OF PROPHET.
>>> AND THE JEWISH HOLIDAY OF SHAVUOT, CELEBRATING THE HARVEST >>> AND THE JEWISH HOLIDAY OF SHAVUOT, CELEBRATING THE HARVEST AND THE TORAH, AND SHAVUOT, CELEBRATING THE HARVEST AND THE TORAH, AND PROCLAIMING -- AND THE TORAH, AND PROCLAIMING -- >> THAT YOU SHOULD BE REALLY, PROCLAIMING -- >> THAT YOU SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLRE YOUR RETIREMENT >> THAT YOU SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLRE YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY.
WELCOME.
WELCOME.
I'M BOB ABERNETHY.
WELCOME.
I'M BOB ABERNETHY.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
I'M BOB ABERNETHY.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
THIS WEEKEND, POPE FRANCIS IS IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
THIS WEEKEND, POPE FRANCIS IS CONTINUING THE PUSH FOR PEACE HE THIS WEEKEND, POPE FRANCIS IS CONTINUING THE PUSH FOR PEACE HE BEGAN DURING HIS RECENT VISIT TO CONTINUING THE PUSH FOR PEACE HE BEGAN DURING HIS RECENT VISIT TO THE MIDDLE EAST, AS HE HOSTS BEGAN DURING HIS RECENT VISIT TO THE MIDDLE EAST, AS HE HOSTS PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY PRESIDENT THE MIDDLE EAST, AS HE HOSTS PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY PRESIDENT MAHMOUD ABBAS AND ISRAELI PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY PRESIDENT MAHMOUD ABBAS AND ISRAELI PRESIDENT SHIMON PERES FOR A MAHMOUD ABBAS AND ISRAELI PRESIDENT SHIMON PERES FOR A SPECIAL VATICAN PRAYER MEETING.
PRESIDENT SHIMON PERES FOR A SPECIAL VATICAN PRAYER MEETING.
FRANCIS SAYS HE BELIEVES PRAYER SPECIAL VATICAN PRAYER MEETING.
FRANCIS SAYS HE BELIEVES PRAYER IS A KEY ELEMENT IN THE PEACE FRANCIS SAYS HE BELIEVES PRAYER IS A KEY ELEMENT IN THE PEACE PROCESS.
EARLIER IN THE WEEK, HE IS A KEY ELEMENT IN THE PEACE PROCESS.
EARLIER IN THE WEEK, HE RENEWED CALLS FOR PEACE IN SYRIA PROCESS.
EARLIER IN THE WEEK, HE RENEWED CALLS FOR PEACE IN SYRIA AND CRITICIZED WHAT HE CALLED A RENEWED CALLS FOR PEACE IN SYRIA AND CRITICIZED WHAT HE CALLED A "GLOBALIZATION OF INDIFFERENCE" AND CRITICIZED WHAT HE CALLED A "GLOBALIZATION OF INDIFFERENCE" WHICH HAS NUMBED PEOPLE TO THE "GLOBALIZATION OF INDIFFERENCE" WHICH HAS NUMBED PEOPLE TO THE ONGOING VIOLENCE AND WHICH HAS NUMBED PEOPLE TO THE ONGOING VIOLENCE AND HUMANITARIAN DEVASTATION CAUSED ONGOING VIOLENCE AND HUMANITARIAN DEVASTATION CAUSED BY THAT CONFLICT.
HUMANITARIAN DEVASTATION CAUSED BY THAT CONFLICT.
>>> MEANWHILE, FRANCIS RAISED BY THAT CONFLICT.
>>> MEANWHILE, FRANCIS RAISED EYEBROWS WITH SOME COMMENTS >>> MEANWHILE, FRANCIS RAISED EYEBROWS WITH SOME COMMENTS ABOUT FAMILIES.
EYEBROWS WITH SOME COMMENTS ABOUT FAMILIES.
HE BLAMED A "CULTURE OF ABOUT FAMILIES.
HE BLAMED A "CULTURE OF WELL-BEING AND COMFORT" FOR HE BLAMED A "CULTURE OF WELL-BEING AND COMFORT" FOR CONVINCING SOME MARRIED PEOPLE WELL-BEING AND COMFORT" FOR CONVINCING SOME MARRIED PEOPLE NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN.
HE CONVINCING SOME MARRIED PEOPLE NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN.
HE LAMENTED THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN.
HE LAMENTED THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S EASIER "TO HAVE A PUPPY OR LAMENTED THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S EASIER "TO HAVE A PUPPY OR TWO CATS" RATHER THAN CHILDREN.
IT'S EASIER "TO HAVE A PUPPY OR TWO CATS" RATHER THAN CHILDREN.
INSTEAD, FRANCIS SAID, TWO CATS" RATHER THAN CHILDREN.
INSTEAD, FRANCIS SAID, "FRUITFULNESS" SHOULD BE A INSTEAD, FRANCIS SAID, "FRUITFULNESS" SHOULD BE A PILLAR OF CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE.
"FRUITFULNESS" SHOULD BE A PILLAR OF CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE.
>>> PRAYERS AND REMEMBRANCES PILLAR OF CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE.
>>> PRAYERS AND REMEMBRANCES WERE HELD AROUND THE WORLD THIS >>> PRAYERS AND REMEMBRANCES WERE HELD AROUND THE WORLD THIS WEEK TO MARK THE 70TH WERE HELD AROUND THE WORLD THIS WEEK TO MARK THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY IN WORLD WEEK TO MARK THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY IN WORLD WAR II.
ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY IN WORLD WAR II.
ON JUNE 6, 1944, ALLIED FORCES WAR II.
ON JUNE 6, 1944, ALLIED FORCES INVADED THE FRENCH COAST OF ON JUNE 6, 1944, ALLIED FORCES INVADED THE FRENCH COAST OF NORMANDY, AN EVENT THAT INVADED THE FRENCH COAST OF NORMANDY, AN EVENT THAT ULTIMATELY LED TO THE DEFEAT OF NORMANDY, AN EVENT THAT ULTIMATELY LED TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY.
ULTIMATELY LED TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY.
THOUSANDS OF ALLIED TROOPS DIED NAZI GERMANY.
THOUSANDS OF ALLIED TROOPS DIED IN WHAT WAS THE LARGEST SEABORNE THOUSANDS OF ALLIED TROOPS DIED IN WHAT WAS THE LARGEST SEABORNE INVASION IN HISTORY.
IN WHAT WAS THE LARGEST SEABORNE INVASION IN HISTORY.
>>> INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE IS INVASION IN HISTORY.
>>> INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE IS MOUNTING ON THE U.S. GOVERNMENT >>> INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE IS MOUNTING ON THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TO INTERVENE IN THE CASE OF MOUNTING ON THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TO INTERVENE IN THE CASE OF MERIAM IBRAHIM, A SUDANESE TO INTERVENE IN THE CASE OF MERIAM IBRAHIM, A SUDANESE CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO WAS MERIAM IBRAHIM, A SUDANESE CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO WAS SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR REFUSING CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO WAS SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR REFUSING TO RENOUNCE HER FAITH.
SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR REFUSING TO RENOUNCE HER FAITH.
IBRAHIM WAS ALSO SENTENCED TO TO RENOUNCE HER FAITH.
IBRAHIM WAS ALSO SENTENCED TO 100 LASHES FOR HER MARRIAGE TO A IBRAHIM WAS ALSO SENTENCED TO 100 LASHES FOR HER MARRIAGE TO A CHRISTIAN MAN, A U.S. CITIZEN.
100 LASHES FOR HER MARRIAGE TO A CHRISTIAN MAN, A U.S. CITIZEN.
THE SUDANESE COURT CONSIDERS CHRISTIAN MAN, A U.S. CITIZEN.
THE SUDANESE COURT CONSIDERS THEIR MARRIAGE TO BE INVALID THE SUDANESE COURT CONSIDERS THEIR MARRIAGE TO BE INVALID UNDER ISLAMIC LAW.
THEIR MARRIAGE TO BE INVALID UNDER ISLAMIC LAW.
LAST WEEK IBRAHIM GAVE BIRTH IN UNDER ISLAMIC LAW.
LAST WEEK IBRAHIM GAVE BIRTH IN PRISON TO A DAUGHTER.
LAST WEEK IBRAHIM GAVE BIRTH IN PRISON TO A DAUGHTER.
THE COUPLE ALSO HAS A TODDLER PRISON TO A DAUGHTER.
THE COUPLE ALSO HAS A TODDLER SON, WHO IS IN PRISON WITH HIS THE COUPLE ALSO HAS A TODDLER SON, WHO IS IN PRISON WITH HIS MOTHER.
SON, WHO IS IN PRISON WITH HIS MOTHER.
>>> ANOTHER SIGN OF DECLINING MOTHER.
>>> ANOTHER SIGN OF DECLINING ATTENDANCE AT MANY CHURCHES, >>> ANOTHER SIGN OF DECLINING ATTENDANCE AT MANY CHURCHES, PROTESTANT AND CATHOLIC.
ATTENDANCE AT MANY CHURCHES, PROTESTANT AND CATHOLIC.
THE CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE OF PROTESTANT AND CATHOLIC.
THE CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE OF PHILADELPHIA LAST WEEK ANNOUNCED THE CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE OF PHILADELPHIA LAST WEEK ANNOUNCED IT IS CLOSING AND MERGING 16 OF PHILADELPHIA LAST WEEK ANNOUNCED IT IS CLOSING AND MERGING 16 OF ITS 235 PARISHES.
IT IS CLOSING AND MERGING 16 OF ITS 235 PARISHES.
WEEKLY CHURCH ATTENDANCE IN THE ITS 235 PARISHES.
WEEKLY CHURCH ATTENDANCE IN THE ARCHDIOCESE HAS DROPPED BY MORE WEEKLY CHURCH ATTENDANCE IN THE ARCHDIOCESE HAS DROPPED BY MORE THAN A QUARTER OVER THE LAST ARCHDIOCESE HAS DROPPED BY MORE THAN A QUARTER OVER THE LAST DECADE.
THAN A QUARTER OVER THE LAST DECADE.
>>> PRESIDENT OBAMA UNVEILED A DECADE.
>>> PRESIDENT OBAMA UNVEILED A NEW PLAN THIS WEEK TO CUT CARBON >>> PRESIDENT OBAMA UNVEILED A NEW PLAN THIS WEEK TO CUT CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM POWER NEW PLAN THIS WEEK TO CUT CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM POWER PLANTS BY 30% OVER THE NEXT DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM POWER PLANTS BY 30% OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS.
PLANTS BY 30% OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS.
>>> SEVERAL RELIGIOUS GROUPS, 15 YEARS.
>>> SEVERAL RELIGIOUS GROUPS, INCLUDING THE RELIGIOUS ACTION >>> SEVERAL RELIGIOUS GROUPS, INCLUDING THE RELIGIOUS ACTION CENTER OF REFORM JUDAISM, INCLUDING THE RELIGIOUS ACTION CENTER OF REFORM JUDAISM, WELCOMED THE NEW CARBON CENTER OF REFORM JUDAISM, WELCOMED THE NEW CARBON POLLUTION STANDARDS.
WELCOMED THE NEW CARBON POLLUTION STANDARDS.
THEY CALLED THEM AN IMPORTANT POLLUTION STANDARDS.
THEY CALLED THEM AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD CURBING CLIMATE THEY CALLED THEM AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD CURBING CLIMATE CHANGE AND PROTECTING PUBLIC STEP TOWARD CURBING CLIMATE CHANGE AND PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH.
CHANGE AND PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH.
>>> EXISTING POWER PLANTS ARE HEALTH.
>>> EXISTING POWER PLANTS ARE THE LARGEST SINGLE SOURCE OF THE >>> EXISTING POWER PLANTS ARE THE LARGEST SINGLE SOURCE OF THE NATION'S CARBON DIOXIDE THE LARGEST SINGLE SOURCE OF THE NATION'S CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS.
NATION'S CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS.
>>> ONE OF THE GREAT DILEMMAS EMISSIONS.
>>> ONE OF THE GREAT DILEMMAS FOR SOME RELIGIOUS PEOPLE CAN >>> ONE OF THE GREAT DILEMMAS FOR SOME RELIGIOUS PEOPLE CAN OCCUR WHEN DOCTRINE SEEMS TO FOR SOME RELIGIOUS PEOPLE CAN OCCUR WHEN DOCTRINE SEEMS TO PREVENT CARE -- FOR INSTANCE, OCCUR WHEN DOCTRINE SEEMS TO PREVENT CARE -- FOR INSTANCE, WHEN A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS REFUSES PREVENT CARE -- FOR INSTANCE, WHEN A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS REFUSES SURGERY BECAUSE HIS OR HER WHEN A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS REFUSES SURGERY BECAUSE HIS OR HER BELIEFS PROHIBIT BLOOD SURGERY BECAUSE HIS OR HER BELIEFS PROHIBIT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
BELIEFS PROHIBIT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
BUT THERE MAY BE A WAY THROUGH TRANSFUSIONS.
BUT THERE MAY BE A WAY THROUGH THAT PROBLEM.
BUT THERE MAY BE A WAY THROUGH THAT PROBLEM.
BETTY ROLLIN REPORTS ON A THAT PROBLEM.
BETTY ROLLIN REPORTS ON A SURGEON AND A HOSPITAL OPERATING BETTY ROLLIN REPORTS ON A SURGEON AND A HOSPITAL OPERATING WITHOUT THE NEED FOR SURGEON AND A HOSPITAL OPERATING WITHOUT THE NEED FOR TRANSFUSIONS.
WITHOUT THE NEED FOR TRANSFUSIONS.
THE TECHNIQUE IS CALLED TRANSFUSIONS.
THE TECHNIQUE IS CALLED BLOODLESS SURGERY, AND DOCTORS THE TECHNIQUE IS CALLED BLOODLESS SURGERY, AND DOCTORS PERFORMING IT SAY IT IS SIMPLY BLOODLESS SURGERY, AND DOCTORS PERFORMING IT SAY IT IS SIMPLY GOOD MEDICINE.
PERFORMING IT SAY IT IS SIMPLY GOOD MEDICINE.
>> Reporter: THE KINGDOM HALL OF GOOD MEDICINE.
>> Reporter: THE KINGDOM HALL OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN CUMMING, >> Reporter: THE KINGDOM HALL OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN CUMMING, GEORGIA, JUSTINE AND GARY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN CUMMING, GEORGIA, JUSTINE AND GARY LACLAIR ARE AMONG THE GEORGIA, JUSTINE AND GARY LACLAIR ARE AMONG THE CONGREGANTS.
LACLAIR ARE AMONG THE CONGREGANTS.
AND THEY ARE AMONG THE CONGREGANTS.
AND THEY ARE AMONG THE 1.2 MILLION JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND THEY ARE AMONG THE 1.2 MILLION JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN THE UNITED STATES.
1.2 MILLION JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE ORGANIZATION OF JEHOVAH'S IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE ORGANIZATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WAS BEGUN IN THE LATE THE ORGANIZATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WAS BEGUN IN THE LATE 19th CENTURY BY A SMALL GROUP OF WITNESSES WAS BEGUN IN THE LATE 19th CENTURY BY A SMALL GROUP OF BIBLE STUDENTS IN PENNSYLVANIA.
19th CENTURY BY A SMALL GROUP OF BIBLE STUDENTS IN PENNSYLVANIA.
>> WE BELIEVE FROM THE BIBLE BIBLE STUDENTS IN PENNSYLVANIA.
>> WE BELIEVE FROM THE BIBLE THAT GOD HAS A NAME AND IT IS >> WE BELIEVE FROM THE BIBLE THAT GOD HAS A NAME AND IT IS JEHOVAH, AND THAT HIS SON, JESUS THAT GOD HAS A NAME AND IT IS JEHOVAH, AND THAT HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST IS SEPARATE.
JEHOVAH, AND THAT HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST IS SEPARATE.
HIS KINGDOM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED CHRIST IS SEPARATE.
HIS KINGDOM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN HEAVEN AND INSTEAD OF HIS KINGDOM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN HEAVEN AND INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY GOING TO HEAVEN WHEN IN HEAVEN AND INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY GOING TO HEAVEN WHEN THEY DIE THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE EVERYBODY GOING TO HEAVEN WHEN THEY DIE THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE A RESURRECTION HERE ON THE EARTH THEY DIE THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE A RESURRECTION HERE ON THE EARTH AND ALL OF OUR LOVED ONES WILL A RESURRECTION HERE ON THE EARTH AND ALL OF OUR LOVED ONES WILL COME BACK AND WE'LL ENJOY AND ALL OF OUR LOVED ONES WILL COME BACK AND WE'LL ENJOY PERFECT LIFE FOREVER RIGHT HERE COME BACK AND WE'LL ENJOY PERFECT LIFE FOREVER RIGHT HERE ON EARTH.
PERFECT LIFE FOREVER RIGHT HERE ON EARTH.
WHERE A LOT OF RELIGIONS MAY ON EARTH.
WHERE A LOT OF RELIGIONS MAY TEACH THINGS SUCH AS HELL FIRE, WHERE A LOT OF RELIGIONS MAY TEACH THINGS SUCH AS HELL FIRE, IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL, AND TEACH THINGS SUCH AS HELL FIRE, IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL, AND TRINITY, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL, AND TRINITY, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DON'T BELIEVE THOSE TEACHINGS.
TRINITY, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DON'T BELIEVE THOSE TEACHINGS.
WE TAKE THE BIBLE VERY LITERALLY DON'T BELIEVE THOSE TEACHINGS.
WE TAKE THE BIBLE VERY LITERALLY AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE FOR WHAT WE TAKE THE BIBLE VERY LITERALLY AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE FOR WHAT IT IS.
AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE FOR WHAT IT IS.
WE LOOK FOR THE TRUTH IN THE IT IS.
WE LOOK FOR THE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE.
WE LOOK FOR THE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE.
>> Reporter: ONE OF THE "TRUTHS" BIBLE.
>> Reporter: ONE OF THE "TRUTHS" WITNESSES BELIEVE IN HAS TO DO >> Reporter: ONE OF THE "TRUTHS" WITNESSES BELIEVE IN HAS TO DO WITH BLOOD.
WITNESSES BELIEVE IN HAS TO DO WITH BLOOD.
>> IN GENESIS AND AGAIN WITH BLOOD.
>> IN GENESIS AND AGAIN LEVITICUS, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC >> IN GENESIS AND AGAIN LEVITICUS, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC SCRIPTURES THAT STATE THAT THE LEVITICUS, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC SCRIPTURES THAT STATE THAT THE BLOOD IS SACRED AND THAT LIFE IS SCRIPTURES THAT STATE THAT THE BLOOD IS SACRED AND THAT LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD AND THAT BELONGS TO BLOOD IS SACRED AND THAT LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD AND THAT BELONGS TO GOD.
IN THE BLOOD AND THAT BELONGS TO GOD.
SO WE WANT TO RESPECT THAT AND GOD.
SO WE WANT TO RESPECT THAT AND BE OBEDIENT TO THAT.
SO WE WANT TO RESPECT THAT AND BE OBEDIENT TO THAT.
SO THAT MEANS JEHOVAH'S BE OBEDIENT TO THAT.
SO THAT MEANS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DO NOT ACCEPT BLOOD SO THAT MEANS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DO NOT ACCEPT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
WITNESSES DO NOT ACCEPT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
>> Reporter: THEY BELIEVE TO DO TRANSFUSIONS.
>> Reporter: THEY BELIEVE TO DO SO WOULD BE A SIN, A SIN SERIOUS >> Reporter: THEY BELIEVE TO DO SO WOULD BE A SIN, A SIN SERIOUS ENOUGH THAT MANY CHURCH MEMBERS SO WOULD BE A SIN, A SIN SERIOUS ENOUGH THAT MANY CHURCH MEMBERS WOULD RATHER DIE THAN RECEIVE ENOUGH THAT MANY CHURCH MEMBERS WOULD RATHER DIE THAN RECEIVE BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
WOULD RATHER DIE THAN RECEIVE BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN VERY MUCH ON BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN VERY MUCH ON THE LACLAIRS' MINDS BECAUSE THE THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN VERY MUCH ON THE LACLAIRS' MINDS BECAUSE THE 43-YEAR-OLD JUSTINE WAS ABOUT TO THE LACLAIRS' MINDS BECAUSE THE 43-YEAR-OLD JUSTINE WAS ABOUT TO HAVE SURGERY.
43-YEAR-OLD JUSTINE WAS ABOUT TO HAVE SURGERY.
SHE HAD A TUMOR IN HER SKULL HAVE SURGERY.
SHE HAD A TUMOR IN HER SKULL WHICH HAD TO BE REMOVED.
SHE HAD A TUMOR IN HER SKULL WHICH HAD TO BE REMOVED.
FOR THIS TYPE OF SURGERY MOST WHICH HAD TO BE REMOVED.
FOR THIS TYPE OF SURGERY MOST HOSPITALS MIGHT HAVE REQUIRED A FOR THIS TYPE OF SURGERY MOST HOSPITALS MIGHT HAVE REQUIRED A BLOOD TRANSFUSION, WHICH WAS HOSPITALS MIGHT HAVE REQUIRED A BLOOD TRANSFUSION, WHICH WAS UNACCEPTABLE TO JUSTINE AND TO BLOOD TRANSFUSION, WHICH WAS UNACCEPTABLE TO JUSTINE AND TO HER HUSBAND GARY AS WELL.
UNACCEPTABLE TO JUSTINE AND TO HER HUSBAND GARY AS WELL.
>> IT'S HER DECISION OBVIOUSLY, HER HUSBAND GARY AS WELL.
>> IT'S HER DECISION OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER IF >> IT'S HER DECISION OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER IF SHE HAD SUPPORT AND THAT'S BUT IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER IF SHE HAD SUPPORT AND THAT'S REALLY MY RESPONSIBILITY AND I'M SHE HAD SUPPORT AND THAT'S REALLY MY RESPONSIBILITY AND I'M TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
REALLY MY RESPONSIBILITY AND I'M TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
>> Reporter: THE LACLAIRS FOUND TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
>> Reporter: THE LACLAIRS FOUND A SOLUTION TO THEIR PROBLEM IN >> Reporter: THE LACLAIRS FOUND A SOLUTION TO THEIR PROBLEM IN ENGLEWOOD, NEW JERSEY.
A SOLUTION TO THEIR PROBLEM IN ENGLEWOOD, NEW JERSEY.
NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO THE ENGLEWOOD, NEW JERSEY.
NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO THE ENGLEWOOD HOSPITAL BEGAN A NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO THE ENGLEWOOD HOSPITAL BEGAN A BLOODLESS SURGERY PROGRAM.
ENGLEWOOD HOSPITAL BEGAN A BLOODLESS SURGERY PROGRAM.
THE POLICY GREW OUT OF THE NEED BLOODLESS SURGERY PROGRAM.
THE POLICY GREW OUT OF THE NEED OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, AND NOW THE POLICY GREW OUT OF THE NEED OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, AND NOW IT HAS BECOME THE HOSPITAL'S OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, AND NOW IT HAS BECOME THE HOSPITAL'S PREFERRED METHOD OF SURGERY FOR IT HAS BECOME THE HOSPITAL'S PREFERRED METHOD OF SURGERY FOR ALL PATIENTS.
PREFERRED METHOD OF SURGERY FOR ALL PATIENTS.
>> DO YOU SEE THIS THING HERE?
ALL PATIENTS.
>> DO YOU SEE THIS THING HERE?
>> YES.
>> DO YOU SEE THIS THING HERE?
>> YES.
>> THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE >> YES.
>> THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
>> THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
THIS IS A TUMOR OF SOME KIND.
HERE.
THIS IS A TUMOR OF SOME KIND.
>> Reporter: DR. STEINBERGER, THIS IS A TUMOR OF SOME KIND.
>> Reporter: DR. STEINBERGER, WHO PERFORMED JUSTINE'S SURGERY, >> Reporter: DR. STEINBERGER, WHO PERFORMED JUSTINE'S SURGERY, HAS BECOME A FIRM BELIEVER IN WHO PERFORMED JUSTINE'S SURGERY, HAS BECOME A FIRM BELIEVER IN ENGLEWOOD'S AVOIDANCE OF BLOOD HAS BECOME A FIRM BELIEVER IN ENGLEWOOD'S AVOIDANCE OF BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
ENGLEWOOD'S AVOIDANCE OF BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
FOR HIM IT'S JUST GOOD MEDICINE.
TRANSFUSIONS.
FOR HIM IT'S JUST GOOD MEDICINE.
>> THE SCIENCE SEEMED VERY REAL.
FOR HIM IT'S JUST GOOD MEDICINE.
>> THE SCIENCE SEEMED VERY REAL.
THE LITERATURE SEEMED TO SUPPORT >> THE SCIENCE SEEMED VERY REAL.
THE LITERATURE SEEMED TO SUPPORT IT AND ONCE WE STARTED DOING THE THE LITERATURE SEEMED TO SUPPORT IT AND ONCE WE STARTED DOING THE OPERATIONS, THE RESULTS WERE IT AND ONCE WE STARTED DOING THE OPERATIONS, THE RESULTS WERE GREAT.
OPERATIONS, THE RESULTS WERE GREAT.
THE RISKS OF GIVING BLOOD IN GREAT.
THE RISKS OF GIVING BLOOD IN MANY CASES OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS THE RISKS OF GIVING BLOOD IN MANY CASES OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS OF GIVING BLOOD.
MANY CASES OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS OF GIVING BLOOD.
THERE ARE RISKS OF INFECTIONS, OF GIVING BLOOD.
THERE ARE RISKS OF INFECTIONS, THERE ARE RISKS OF LOWERING THE THERE ARE RISKS OF INFECTIONS, THERE ARE RISKS OF LOWERING THE IMMUNE RESPONSE OF THE PATIENT, THERE ARE RISKS OF LOWERING THE IMMUNE RESPONSE OF THE PATIENT, THERE ARE RISKS OF GIVING THE IMMUNE RESPONSE OF THE PATIENT, THERE ARE RISKS OF GIVING THE WRONG KIND OF BLOOD, ERRORS CAN THERE ARE RISKS OF GIVING THE WRONG KIND OF BLOOD, ERRORS CAN OCCUR AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO WRONG KIND OF BLOOD, ERRORS CAN OCCUR AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO AVOID GETTING A BLOOD OCCUR AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO AVOID GETTING A BLOOD TRANSFUSION, ONE IS BETTER OFF AVOID GETTING A BLOOD TRANSFUSION, ONE IS BETTER OFF IN GENERAL IF THEY CAN AVOID IT.
TRANSFUSION, ONE IS BETTER OFF IN GENERAL IF THEY CAN AVOID IT.
>> Reporter: IN ANY SENSE, DO IN GENERAL IF THEY CAN AVOID IT.
>> Reporter: IN ANY SENSE, DO YOU FEEL THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES >> Reporter: IN ANY SENSE, DO YOU FEEL THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE DONE MEDICINE A SERVICE?
YOU FEEL THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE DONE MEDICINE A SERVICE?
>> DEFINITELY.
HAVE DONE MEDICINE A SERVICE?
>> DEFINITELY.
THEY DEFINITELY HAVE DONE >> DEFINITELY.
THEY DEFINITELY HAVE DONE MEDICINE A SERVICE.
THEY DEFINITELY HAVE DONE MEDICINE A SERVICE.
>> Reporter: THE KEY TO MEDICINE A SERVICE.
>> Reporter: THE KEY TO SUCCESSFUL BLOODLESS SURGERY IS >> Reporter: THE KEY TO SUCCESSFUL BLOODLESS SURGERY IS PREPARATION.
SUCCESSFUL BLOODLESS SURGERY IS PREPARATION.
SHERRI OZAWA DIRECTS THE PREPARATION.
SHERRI OZAWA DIRECTS THE HOSPITAL'S BLOODLESS SURGERY SHERRI OZAWA DIRECTS THE HOSPITAL'S BLOODLESS SURGERY PROGRAM.
HOSPITAL'S BLOODLESS SURGERY PROGRAM.
>> MANY, MANY PATIENTS, PROGRAM.
>> MANY, MANY PATIENTS, ESTIMATES ARE AS MANY 40 OR 50% >> MANY, MANY PATIENTS, ESTIMATES ARE AS MANY 40 OR 50% OF PATIENTS COME TO SURGERY ESTIMATES ARE AS MANY 40 OR 50% OF PATIENTS COME TO SURGERY ANEMIC.
OF PATIENTS COME TO SURGERY ANEMIC.
THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BLOOD ANEMIC.
THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BLOOD CELLS.
THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BLOOD CELLS.
VERY SIMPLY, DEALING WITH THAT CELLS.
VERY SIMPLY, DEALING WITH THAT AHEAD OF TIME, HELPING TO BUILD VERY SIMPLY, DEALING WITH THAT AHEAD OF TIME, HELPING TO BUILD THOSE PATIENTS' BLOOD UP AHEAD OF TIME, HELPING TO BUILD THOSE PATIENTS' BLOOD UP ELIMINATES EVEN THE QUESTION OF THOSE PATIENTS' BLOOD UP ELIMINATES EVEN THE QUESTION OF TRANSFUSION FOR MANY PATIENTS.
ELIMINATES EVEN THE QUESTION OF TRANSFUSION FOR MANY PATIENTS.
WE COULD PERFORM EVEN SERIOUS TRANSFUSION FOR MANY PATIENTS.
WE COULD PERFORM EVEN SERIOUS SURGERIES AND EVEN LIFE WE COULD PERFORM EVEN SERIOUS SURGERIES AND EVEN LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS SURGERIES AND EVEN LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS BLOODLESSLY WITH MUCH GREATER THREATENING SITUATIONS BLOODLESSLY WITH MUCH GREATER SUCCESS THAN OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BLOODLESSLY WITH MUCH GREATER SUCCESS THAN OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED, EVEN THAN WE SUCCESS THAN OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED, EVEN THAN WE EXPECTED INITIALLY.
HAVE EXPECTED, EVEN THAN WE EXPECTED INITIALLY.
>> Reporter: AND, THERE IS THE EXPECTED INITIALLY.
>> Reporter: AND, THERE IS THE COST OF BLOOD.
>> Reporter: AND, THERE IS THE COST OF BLOOD.
>> IT'S IMMENSELY EXPENSIVE AND COST OF BLOOD.
>> IT'S IMMENSELY EXPENSIVE AND IF IT'S DONE FOR NO GOOD REASON >> IT'S IMMENSELY EXPENSIVE AND IF IT'S DONE FOR NO GOOD REASON THAT IS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF IF IT'S DONE FOR NO GOOD REASON THAT IS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF WASTE IN THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
THAT IS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF WASTE IN THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
IT COSTS ABOUT $1,100 TO GIVE WASTE IN THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
IT COSTS ABOUT $1,100 TO GIVE ONE UNIT OF BLOOD.
IT COSTS ABOUT $1,100 TO GIVE ONE UNIT OF BLOOD.
NOT TO BUY IT, TO TRANSFUSE ONE ONE UNIT OF BLOOD.
NOT TO BUY IT, TO TRANSFUSE ONE UNIT OF BLOOD.
NOT TO BUY IT, TO TRANSFUSE ONE UNIT OF BLOOD.
>> Reporter: WHEN ENGLEWOOD'S UNIT OF BLOOD.
>> Reporter: WHEN ENGLEWOOD'S PROGRAM BEGAN IN 1994 THERE WERE >> Reporter: WHEN ENGLEWOOD'S PROGRAM BEGAN IN 1994 THERE WERE FEWER THAN TEN HOSPITALS PROGRAM BEGAN IN 1994 THERE WERE FEWER THAN TEN HOSPITALS OFFERING PROGRAMS FOR SURGERY FEWER THAN TEN HOSPITALS OFFERING PROGRAMS FOR SURGERY WITHOUT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
OFFERING PROGRAMS FOR SURGERY WITHOUT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT 150 AND WITHOUT BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS.
TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT 150 AND MANY MORE ARE IN DEVELOPMENT.
TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT 150 AND MANY MORE ARE IN DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS MORE TO SUCCESSFUL MANY MORE ARE IN DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS MORE TO SUCCESSFUL BLOODLESS SURGERY THAN THERE IS MORE TO SUCCESSFUL BLOODLESS SURGERY THAN PREPARATION.
BLOODLESS SURGERY THAN PREPARATION.
AT ENGLEWOOD THEY PRACTICE PREPARATION.
AT ENGLEWOOD THEY PRACTICE PRECISION SURGERY WITH MINIMAL AT ENGLEWOOD THEY PRACTICE PRECISION SURGERY WITH MINIMAL BLOOD LOSS, AND IF A PATIENT PRECISION SURGERY WITH MINIMAL BLOOD LOSS, AND IF A PATIENT LOSES BLOOD AND HAS AGREED BLOOD LOSS, AND IF A PATIENT LOSES BLOOD AND HAS AGREED BEFORE HAND, THE SURGEON USES A LOSES BLOOD AND HAS AGREED BEFORE HAND, THE SURGEON USES A TECHNOLOGY THAT RECYCLES THE BEFORE HAND, THE SURGEON USES A TECHNOLOGY THAT RECYCLES THE PATIENT'S OWN BLOOD.
TECHNOLOGY THAT RECYCLES THE PATIENT'S OWN BLOOD.
STILL THERE IS A RESISTANCE PATIENT'S OWN BLOOD.
STILL THERE IS A RESISTANCE AMONG SURGEONS TO BLOODLESS STILL THERE IS A RESISTANCE AMONG SURGEONS TO BLOODLESS SURGERY.
AMONG SURGEONS TO BLOODLESS SURGERY.
BOTH DR. STEINBERGER AND SHERRI SURGERY.
BOTH DR. STEINBERGER AND SHERRI OZAWA SIMPLY BLAME TRADITION AND BOTH DR. STEINBERGER AND SHERRI OZAWA SIMPLY BLAME TRADITION AND HABIT.
OZAWA SIMPLY BLAME TRADITION AND HABIT.
>> THE RESISTANCE IS PRIMARILY HABIT.
>> THE RESISTANCE IS PRIMARILY BEHAVIORALLY BASED.
>> THE RESISTANCE IS PRIMARILY BEHAVIORALLY BASED.
PHYSICIANS GET ABOUT BETWEEN BEHAVIORALLY BASED.
PHYSICIANS GET ABOUT BETWEEN THREE TO SIX HOURS OF TRAINING PHYSICIANS GET ABOUT BETWEEN THREE TO SIX HOURS OF TRAINING IN TRANSFUSION SCIENCE IN THREE TO SIX HOURS OF TRAINING IN TRANSFUSION SCIENCE IN MEDICAL SCHOOL.
IN TRANSFUSION SCIENCE IN MEDICAL SCHOOL.
THEY DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT MEDICAL SCHOOL.
THEY DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT.
THEY DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT.
SO MOST OF BLOODLESS MEDICINE OR ABOUT IT.
SO MOST OF BLOODLESS MEDICINE OR TRANSFUSION-FREE SURGERY REALLY SO MOST OF BLOODLESS MEDICINE OR TRANSFUSION-FREE SURGERY REALLY IS EDUCATION FOR CLINICIANS IN TRANSFUSION-FREE SURGERY REALLY IS EDUCATION FOR CLINICIANS IN HOW TO HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS IS EDUCATION FOR CLINICIANS IN HOW TO HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS WITHOUT BLOOD.
HOW TO HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS WITHOUT BLOOD.
>> Reporter: LATELY DOCTORS FROM WITHOUT BLOOD.
>> Reporter: LATELY DOCTORS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE TAKEN AN >> Reporter: LATELY DOCTORS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE TAKEN AN INTEREST IN BLOODLESS SURGERY, OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE TAKEN AN INTEREST IN BLOODLESS SURGERY, PARTICULARLY IN AFRICA.
INTEREST IN BLOODLESS SURGERY, PARTICULARLY IN AFRICA.
>> THEY ARE LEARNING THE PARTICULARLY IN AFRICA.
>> THEY ARE LEARNING THE TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVE LEARNED >> THEY ARE LEARNING THE TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM TAKING CARE OF THIS TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM TAKING CARE OF THIS SPECIFIC POPULATION TO USE IN FROM TAKING CARE OF THIS SPECIFIC POPULATION TO USE IN THEIR COUNTRIES WHERE EITHER THE SPECIFIC POPULATION TO USE IN THEIR COUNTRIES WHERE EITHER THE BLOOD SUPPLY IS UNSAFE OR THEIR COUNTRIES WHERE EITHER THE BLOOD SUPPLY IS UNSAFE OR UNAVAILABLE.
BLOOD SUPPLY IS UNSAFE OR UNAVAILABLE.
>> Reporter: JUSTINE'S SURGERY UNAVAILABLE.
>> Reporter: JUSTINE'S SURGERY WAS SUCCESSFULLY PERFORMED.
>> Reporter: JUSTINE'S SURGERY WAS SUCCESSFULLY PERFORMED.
SHE WENT HOME TO GEORGIA TWO WAS SUCCESSFULLY PERFORMED.
SHE WENT HOME TO GEORGIA TWO DAYS LATER.
SHE WENT HOME TO GEORGIA TWO DAYS LATER.
>> EVERYTHING WENT VERY WELL, NO DAYS LATER.
>> EVERYTHING WENT VERY WELL, NO PROBLEMS.
>> EVERYTHING WENT VERY WELL, NO PROBLEMS.
SHE'S WAKING UP FROM ANESTHESIA.
PROBLEMS.
SHE'S WAKING UP FROM ANESTHESIA.
THERE WAS HARDLY ANY BLOOD LOSS.
SHE'S WAKING UP FROM ANESTHESIA.
THERE WAS HARDLY ANY BLOOD LOSS.
DEPENDING ON HOW SHE FEELS THERE WAS HARDLY ANY BLOOD LOSS.
DEPENDING ON HOW SHE FEELS TOMORROW SHE CAN LEAVE WHEN SHE DEPENDING ON HOW SHE FEELS TOMORROW SHE CAN LEAVE WHEN SHE FEELS READY TO GO.
TOMORROW SHE CAN LEAVE WHEN SHE FEELS READY TO GO.
>> YOU DID A WONDERFUL THING.
FEELS READY TO GO.
>> YOU DID A WONDERFUL THING.
>> WELL, LET'S SEE HOW SHE DOES.
>> YOU DID A WONDERFUL THING.
>> WELL, LET'S SEE HOW SHE DOES.
>> Reporter: FOR "RELIGION AND >> WELL, LET'S SEE HOW SHE DOES.
>> Reporter: FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," I'M BETTY >> Reporter: FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," I'M BETTY ROLLIN IN ENGLEWOOD, NEW JERSEY.
>>> WE HAVE A JUDY VALENTE >>> WE HAVE A JUDY VALENTE PROFILE TODAY OF POET CHRISTIAN >>> WE HAVE A JUDY VALENTE PROFILE TODAY OF POET CHRISTIAN WIMAN, THE FORMER EDITOR OF PROFILE TODAY OF POET CHRISTIAN WIMAN, THE FORMER EDITOR OF "POETRY" MAGAZINE, THIS YEAR WIMAN, THE FORMER EDITOR OF "POETRY" MAGAZINE, THIS YEAR TEACHING AT THE YALE DIVINITY "POETRY" MAGAZINE, THIS YEAR TEACHING AT THE YALE DIVINITY SCHOOL AND YALE'S INSTITUTE OF TEACHING AT THE YALE DIVINITY SCHOOL AND YALE'S INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC.
SCHOOL AND YALE'S INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC.
WIMAN SAID POETRY AND ALL THE SACRED MUSIC.
WIMAN SAID POETRY AND ALL THE ARTS ARE ESSENTIAL TO WIMAN SAID POETRY AND ALL THE ARTS ARE ESSENTIAL TO EXPERIENCING WHAT HE CALLS ARTS ARE ESSENTIAL TO EXPERIENCING WHAT HE CALLS "GLIMMERINGS" OF THE PRESENCE OF EXPERIENCING WHAT HE CALLS "GLIMMERINGS" OF THE PRESENCE OF GOD.
"GLIMMERINGS" OF THE PRESENCE OF GOD.
MEANWHILE, HE LIVES WITH THE GOD.
MEANWHILE, HE LIVES WITH THE IMPLICATIONS OF HIS INCURABLE MEANWHILE, HE LIVES WITH THE IMPLICATIONS OF HIS INCURABLE CANCER.
IMPLICATIONS OF HIS INCURABLE CANCER.
♪ CANCER.
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Reporter: POET CHRISTIAN ♪ >> Reporter: POET CHRISTIAN WIMAN IS IN A PLACE WHERE HE >> Reporter: POET CHRISTIAN WIMAN IS IN A PLACE WHERE HE SAYS HIS SPIRIT IS AT HOME -- WIMAN IS IN A PLACE WHERE HE SAYS HIS SPIRIT IS AT HOME -- THE CHAPEL AT THE YALE DIVINITY SAYS HIS SPIRIT IS AT HOME -- THE CHAPEL AT THE YALE DIVINITY SCHOOL.
THE CHAPEL AT THE YALE DIVINITY SCHOOL.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH GENUINE JOY SCHOOL.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH GENUINE JOY AND INTENSITY IN THOSE SERVICES.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH GENUINE JOY AND INTENSITY IN THOSE SERVICES.
YOU THINK OF YOUNG PEOPLE AS AND INTENSITY IN THOSE SERVICES.
YOU THINK OF YOUNG PEOPLE AS BEING IRONIC AND DEJECTED AND YOU THINK OF YOUNG PEOPLE AS BEING IRONIC AND DEJECTED AND YOU KNOW, DISPASSIONATE OR BEING IRONIC AND DEJECTED AND YOU KNOW, DISPASSIONATE OR DISSOLUTE MAYBE.
YOU KNOW, DISPASSIONATE OR DISSOLUTE MAYBE.
AND HERE ARE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE DISSOLUTE MAYBE.
AND HERE ARE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THEIR TWENTIES THAT ARE AND HERE ARE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THEIR TWENTIES THAT ARE FILLED WITH JOY, THEY'RE SINGING IN THEIR TWENTIES THAT ARE FILLED WITH JOY, THEY'RE SINGING OUT, IT IS TRULY INSPIRING.
FILLED WITH JOY, THEY'RE SINGING OUT, IT IS TRULY INSPIRING.
>> Reporter: WIMAN IS HERE TO OUT, IT IS TRULY INSPIRING.
>> Reporter: WIMAN IS HERE TO OFFER A MESSAGE TO ASPIRING >> Reporter: WIMAN IS HERE TO OFFER A MESSAGE TO ASPIRING MINISTERS AND CHURCH MUSICIANS, OFFER A MESSAGE TO ASPIRING MINISTERS AND CHURCH MUSICIANS, THAT POETRY IS NOT ONLY A MEANS MINISTERS AND CHURCH MUSICIANS, THAT POETRY IS NOT ONLY A MEANS OF REACHING OUT TO GOD, BUT ONE THAT POETRY IS NOT ONLY A MEANS OF REACHING OUT TO GOD, BUT ONE OF THE WAYS THROUGH WHICH GOD OF REACHING OUT TO GOD, BUT ONE OF THE WAYS THROUGH WHICH GOD REACHES OUT TO US.
OF THE WAYS THROUGH WHICH GOD REACHES OUT TO US.
>> THIS IS TRUE IN A PROFOUND REACHES OUT TO US.
>> THIS IS TRUE IN A PROFOUND SENSE, IN THE WAY THAT ART >> THIS IS TRUE IN A PROFOUND SENSE, IN THE WAY THAT ART RADICALLY EXPANDS OR EXTENDS OUR SENSE, IN THE WAY THAT ART RADICALLY EXPANDS OR EXTENDS OUR NOTION OF GOD.
RADICALLY EXPANDS OR EXTENDS OUR NOTION OF GOD.
WE'VE ALL HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF NOTION OF GOD.
WE'VE ALL HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF COMING ACROSS A WORK OF ART THAT WE'VE ALL HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF COMING ACROSS A WORK OF ART THAT SUDDENLY BLOWS YOUR MIND AND COMING ACROSS A WORK OF ART THAT SUDDENLY BLOWS YOUR MIND AND MAKES YOU THINK OF EVERYTHING SUDDENLY BLOWS YOUR MIND AND MAKES YOU THINK OF EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY, THINK OF THE WORLD MAKES YOU THINK OF EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY, THINK OF THE WORLD DIFFERENTLY, THINK OF GOD DIFFERENTLY, THINK OF THE WORLD DIFFERENTLY, THINK OF GOD DIFFERENTLY.
DIFFERENTLY, THINK OF GOD DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S ACTUALLY AN ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S ACTUALLY AN ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF ANY IT'S ACTUALLY AN ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF ANY AUTHENTIC AND UNIFIED RELIGIOUS ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF ANY AUTHENTIC AND UNIFIED RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE, I THINK.
AUTHENTIC AND UNIFIED RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE, I THINK.
>> Reporter: WIMAN'S ARRIVAL AT EXPERIENCE, I THINK.
>> Reporter: WIMAN'S ARRIVAL AT YALE'S INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC >> Reporter: WIMAN'S ARRIVAL AT YALE'S INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC AS A SENIOR LECTURER IN RELIGION YALE'S INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC AS A SENIOR LECTURER IN RELIGION AND LITERATURE COMES AT THE END AS A SENIOR LECTURER IN RELIGION AND LITERATURE COMES AT THE END OF A LONG PERSONAL PILGRIMAGE.
AND LITERATURE COMES AT THE END OF A LONG PERSONAL PILGRIMAGE.
ONE THAT INCLUDED YEARS OF OF A LONG PERSONAL PILGRIMAGE.
ONE THAT INCLUDED YEARS OF SPIRITUAL UNREST AND WANDERING, ONE THAT INCLUDED YEARS OF SPIRITUAL UNREST AND WANDERING, AND LED ULTIMATELY TO AN SPIRITUAL UNREST AND WANDERING, AND LED ULTIMATELY TO AN ENCOUNTER WITH WHAT HE CALLS AND LED ULTIMATELY TO AN ENCOUNTER WITH WHAT HE CALLS "THE GOD OF JOB, THE GOD OF ENCOUNTER WITH WHAT HE CALLS "THE GOD OF JOB, THE GOD OF ANNIHILATION."
"THE GOD OF JOB, THE GOD OF ANNIHILATION."
IT IS A JOURNEY THAT BEGAN HERE, ANNIHILATION."
IT IS A JOURNEY THAT BEGAN HERE, AMID THE ARID PLAINS AND LONG IT IS A JOURNEY THAT BEGAN HERE, AMID THE ARID PLAINS AND LONG HORIZONS OF WEST TEXAS.
AMID THE ARID PLAINS AND LONG HORIZONS OF WEST TEXAS.
>> I WAS RAISED IN AN ATMOSPHERE HORIZONS OF WEST TEXAS.
>> I WAS RAISED IN AN ATMOSPHERE THAT WAS REALLY COMPLETELY >> I WAS RAISED IN AN ATMOSPHERE THAT WAS REALLY COMPLETELY SATURATED WITH RELIGION.
THAT WAS REALLY COMPLETELY SATURATED WITH RELIGION.
IT WAS SOUTHERN BAPTIST, SATURATED WITH RELIGION.
IT WAS SOUTHERN BAPTIST, FUNDAMENTALIST BAPTIST.
IT WAS SOUTHERN BAPTIST, FUNDAMENTALIST BAPTIST.
THE BIBLE WAS INERRANT, AS WE FUNDAMENTALIST BAPTIST.
THE BIBLE WAS INERRANT, AS WE SAID.
THE BIBLE WAS INERRANT, AS WE SAID.
AND I NEVER REALLY MET A PERSON SAID.
AND I NEVER REALLY MET A PERSON WHO WASN'T A BELIEVER UNTIL I AND I NEVER REALLY MET A PERSON WHO WASN'T A BELIEVER UNTIL I LEFT THAT PLACE.
WHO WASN'T A BELIEVER UNTIL I LEFT THAT PLACE.
>> Reporter: WIMAN LEFT TEXAS TO LEFT THAT PLACE.
>> Reporter: WIMAN LEFT TEXAS TO TRAVEL THE WORLD, ASPIRING TO BE >> Reporter: WIMAN LEFT TEXAS TO TRAVEL THE WORLD, ASPIRING TO BE A POET.
TRAVEL THE WORLD, ASPIRING TO BE A POET.
HE ALSO LEFT BEHIND HIS BAPTIST A POET.
HE ALSO LEFT BEHIND HIS BAPTIST UPBRINGING BUT NOT WHAT HE CALLS HE ALSO LEFT BEHIND HIS BAPTIST UPBRINGING BUT NOT WHAT HE CALLS AN INSISTENT, "CLANDESTINE" UPBRINGING BUT NOT WHAT HE CALLS AN INSISTENT, "CLANDESTINE" RELIGIOUS YEARNING.
AN INSISTENT, "CLANDESTINE" RELIGIOUS YEARNING.
>> Reporter: I WOULDN'T HAVE RELIGIOUS YEARNING.
>> Reporter: I WOULDN'T HAVE CALLED MYSELF A CHRISTIAN FOR >> Reporter: I WOULDN'T HAVE CALLED MYSELF A CHRISTIAN FOR YEARS AND YEARS, BUT CLEARLY IT CALLED MYSELF A CHRISTIAN FOR YEARS AND YEARS, BUT CLEARLY IT WAS A PASSION.
YEARS AND YEARS, BUT CLEARLY IT WAS A PASSION.
IT WASN'T EXACTLY DORMANT.
WAS A PASSION.
IT WASN'T EXACTLY DORMANT.
HE WOULD GO ON TO PUBLISH TWO IT WASN'T EXACTLY DORMANT.
HE WOULD GO ON TO PUBLISH TWO COLLECTIONS OF POETRY AND WIN A HE WOULD GO ON TO PUBLISH TWO COLLECTIONS OF POETRY AND WIN A MAJOR AWARD FOR YOUNGER POETS.
COLLECTIONS OF POETRY AND WIN A MAJOR AWARD FOR YOUNGER POETS.
AT AGE 36, HE WAS NAMED EDITOR MAJOR AWARD FOR YOUNGER POETS.
AT AGE 36, HE WAS NAMED EDITOR OF THE PRESTIGIOUS "POETRY" AT AGE 36, HE WAS NAMED EDITOR OF THE PRESTIGIOUS "POETRY" MAGAZINE IN CHICAGO, JUST AFTER OF THE PRESTIGIOUS "POETRY" MAGAZINE IN CHICAGO, JUST AFTER THE MAGAZINE WAS AWARDED A MAGAZINE IN CHICAGO, JUST AFTER THE MAGAZINE WAS AWARDED A $150 MILLION BEQUEST BY THE MAGAZINE WAS AWARDED A $150 MILLION BEQUEST BY PHARMACEUTICAL HEIRESS RUTH $150 MILLION BEQUEST BY PHARMACEUTICAL HEIRESS RUTH LILLY.
PHARMACEUTICAL HEIRESS RUTH LILLY.
HE FELL IN LOVE AND MARRIED.
LILLY.
HE FELL IN LOVE AND MARRIED.
>> FALLING IN LOVE WITH MY WIFE, HE FELL IN LOVE AND MARRIED.
>> FALLING IN LOVE WITH MY WIFE, MEETING MY WIFE REALLY SHOOK MY >> FALLING IN LOVE WITH MY WIFE, MEETING MY WIFE REALLY SHOOK MY WORLD UP IN WAYS I COULDN'T HAVE MEETING MY WIFE REALLY SHOOK MY WORLD UP IN WAYS I COULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED.
WORLD UP IN WAYS I COULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED.
I HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO WRITE FOR PREDICTED.
I HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO WRITE FOR A LONG TIME AND I BEGAN TO WRITE I HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO WRITE FOR A LONG TIME AND I BEGAN TO WRITE AFTER THAT.
A LONG TIME AND I BEGAN TO WRITE AFTER THAT.
SHE AND I BEGAN TO SAY PRAYERS AFTER THAT.
SHE AND I BEGAN TO SAY PRAYERS AFTER WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE SHE AND I BEGAN TO SAY PRAYERS AFTER WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE ALSO BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT GOING AFTER WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE ALSO BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT GOING TO CHURCH.
ALSO BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT GOING TO CHURCH.
WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY MAKE IT IN TO CHURCH.
WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY MAKE IT IN THE DOOR, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY MAKE IT IN THE DOOR, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
THE DOOR, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: THEN, AT THE AGE OF IT.
>> Reporter: THEN, AT THE AGE OF 39, JUST ONE YEAR INTO HIS >> Reporter: THEN, AT THE AGE OF 39, JUST ONE YEAR INTO HIS MARRIAGE, WIMAN WAS DIAGNOSED 39, JUST ONE YEAR INTO HIS MARRIAGE, WIMAN WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A RARE AND INCURABLE BLOOD MARRIAGE, WIMAN WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A RARE AND INCURABLE BLOOD CANCER.
WITH A RARE AND INCURABLE BLOOD CANCER.
>> I HAVE CURSED MIGHTILY AND I CANCER.
>> I HAVE CURSED MIGHTILY AND I HAVE BEEN FURIOUS AND HAVE >> I HAVE CURSED MIGHTILY AND I HAVE BEEN FURIOUS AND HAVE CURSED GOD JUST LIKE ANY OLD HAVE BEEN FURIOUS AND HAVE CURSED GOD JUST LIKE ANY OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET.
CURSED GOD JUST LIKE ANY OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET.
IT DIDN'T EVER DESTROY ME, IT TESTAMENT PROPHET.
IT DIDN'T EVER DESTROY ME, IT DIDN'T EVER MAKE ME BITTER IT DIDN'T EVER DESTROY ME, IT DIDN'T EVER MAKE ME BITTER TOWARD THE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE.
DIDN'T EVER MAKE ME BITTER TOWARD THE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE.
BUT GOSH, IT'S BEEN HARD.
TOWARD THE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE.
BUT GOSH, IT'S BEEN HARD.
I WOULD SAY THE ILLNESS MADE ME BUT GOSH, IT'S BEEN HARD.
I WOULD SAY THE ILLNESS MADE ME NEED TO FORMALIZE FAITH, NEED TO I WOULD SAY THE ILLNESS MADE ME NEED TO FORMALIZE FAITH, NEED TO FIND SOME FORM FOR IT.
NEED TO FORMALIZE FAITH, NEED TO FIND SOME FORM FOR IT.
IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT I FIND SOME FORM FOR IT.
IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO BE IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO BE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO BE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO HELP US.
SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO HELP US.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
GOING TO HELP US.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
IT WAS MORE SIMPLY A SENSE OF I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
IT WAS MORE SIMPLY A SENSE OF SOLIDARITY AND SUFFERING AND A IT WAS MORE SIMPLY A SENSE OF SOLIDARITY AND SUFFERING AND A SENSE OF SOLIDARITY AND WORSHIP.
SOLIDARITY AND SUFFERING AND A SENSE OF SOLIDARITY AND WORSHIP.
I HAVE A HARD TIME CONCEIVING OF SENSE OF SOLIDARITY AND WORSHIP.
I HAVE A HARD TIME CONCEIVING OF A GOD WHO IS COMPLETELY REMOVED I HAVE A HARD TIME CONCEIVING OF A GOD WHO IS COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM SUFFERING.
A GOD WHO IS COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM SUFFERING.
ONCE I UNDERSTAND THE NOTION OF FROM SUFFERING.
ONCE I UNDERSTAND THE NOTION OF CHRIST PARTICIPATING IN ONCE I UNDERSTAND THE NOTION OF CHRIST PARTICIPATING IN SUFFERING, THEN IT MAKES MORE CHRIST PARTICIPATING IN SUFFERING, THEN IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.
SUFFERING, THEN IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.
>> Reporter: WHILE WIMAN FOUND SENSE TO ME.
>> Reporter: WHILE WIMAN FOUND COMFORT IN WORSHIPING WITH >> Reporter: WHILE WIMAN FOUND COMFORT IN WORSHIPING WITH OTHERS, HE FOUND THE WAYS COMFORT IN WORSHIPING WITH OTHERS, HE FOUND THE WAYS CHURCHES TALK ABOUT GOD, FAITH, OTHERS, HE FOUND THE WAYS CHURCHES TALK ABOUT GOD, FAITH, SUFFERING AND DEATH TO BE CHURCHES TALK ABOUT GOD, FAITH, SUFFERING AND DEATH TO BE WOEFULLY INADEQUATE.
SUFFERING AND DEATH TO BE WOEFULLY INADEQUATE.
CHRISTIAN WIMAN SAYS PEOPLE WOEFULLY INADEQUATE.
CHRISTIAN WIMAN SAYS PEOPLE TODAY ARE SEEKING A NEW LANGUAGE CHRISTIAN WIMAN SAYS PEOPLE TODAY ARE SEEKING A NEW LANGUAGE FOR SPEAKING ABOUT GOD.
TODAY ARE SEEKING A NEW LANGUAGE FOR SPEAKING ABOUT GOD.
IT IS A LANGUAGE THAT GOES FOR SPEAKING ABOUT GOD.
IT IS A LANGUAGE THAT GOES BEYOND WORDS, CONCEPTS OR EVEN IT IS A LANGUAGE THAT GOES BEYOND WORDS, CONCEPTS OR EVEN DOCTRINE, THAT TAPS INTO A BEYOND WORDS, CONCEPTS OR EVEN DOCTRINE, THAT TAPS INTO A GENUINE EXPERIENCE OF THE DOCTRINE, THAT TAPS INTO A GENUINE EXPERIENCE OF THE DIVINE, WHAT HE CALLS "GLIMMERS GENUINE EXPERIENCE OF THE DIVINE, WHAT HE CALLS "GLIMMERS OF GOD."
DIVINE, WHAT HE CALLS "GLIMMERS OF GOD."
>> IF YOU ASK ME, DO I GET OF GOD."
>> IF YOU ASK ME, DO I GET GLIMPSES OF GOD, YES, I GET >> IF YOU ASK ME, DO I GET GLIMPSES OF GOD, YES, I GET THESE GLIMMERINGS OF INTUITIONS, GLIMPSES OF GOD, YES, I GET THESE GLIMMERINGS OF INTUITIONS, STRONGER THAN THAT REALLY, WHERE THESE GLIMMERINGS OF INTUITIONS, STRONGER THAN THAT REALLY, WHERE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD SEEMS TO ME STRONGER THAN THAT REALLY, WHERE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD SEEMS TO ME ABSOLUTE.
THE EXISTENCE OF GOD SEEMS TO ME ABSOLUTE.
WE ALL GO THROUGH OUR LIVES AND ABSOLUTE.
WE ALL GO THROUGH OUR LIVES AND THEN SUDDENLY WE'LL HAVE A WE ALL GO THROUGH OUR LIVES AND THEN SUDDENLY WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT WHEN WE THINK, I HAVE THEN SUDDENLY WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT WHEN WE THINK, I HAVE FAITH RIGHT NOW IN SOMETHING.
MOMENT WHEN WE THINK, I HAVE FAITH RIGHT NOW IN SOMETHING.
I FIND THAT I'VE HAD THESE FAITH RIGHT NOW IN SOMETHING.
I FIND THAT I'VE HAD THESE MOMENTS IN MY LIFE WHEN I HAVE I FIND THAT I'VE HAD THESE MOMENTS IN MY LIFE WHEN I HAVE BEEN OVERCOME BY WHAT I ONLY MOMENTS IN MY LIFE WHEN I HAVE BEEN OVERCOME BY WHAT I ONLY KNOW TO CALL GOD.
BEEN OVERCOME BY WHAT I ONLY KNOW TO CALL GOD.
THINK OF THE ATOMS INSIDE THE KNOW TO CALL GOD.
THINK OF THE ATOMS INSIDE THE STONE.
THINK OF THE ATOMS INSIDE THE STONE.
THINK OF THE MAN WHO SITS ALONE STONE.
THINK OF THE MAN WHO SITS ALONE TRYING TO WILL HIMSELF INTO THE THINK OF THE MAN WHO SITS ALONE TRYING TO WILL HIMSELF INTO THE STILLNESS WHERE GOD GOES TRYING TO WILL HIMSELF INTO THE STILLNESS WHERE GOD GOES BELONGING.
STILLNESS WHERE GOD GOES BELONGING.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE ARTISTS BELONGING.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE ARTISTS THAT I KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE ARTISTS THAT I KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULDN'T CALL THEMSELVES THAT I KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULDN'T CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS, SOME WOULD, BUT THEY WOULDN'T CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS, SOME WOULD, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FIGHTING TO CHRISTIANS, SOME WOULD, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FIGHTING TO REMAKE SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE TO ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FIGHTING TO REMAKE SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE TO CONNECT US WITH THE INEFFABLE, REMAKE SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE TO CONNECT US WITH THE INEFFABLE, WITH THE DIVINE.
CONNECT US WITH THE INEFFABLE, WITH THE DIVINE.
IF WE THINK THAT METAPHOR IS HOW WITH THE DIVINE.
IF WE THINK THAT METAPHOR IS HOW WE TALK OF GOD, AND THAT SEEMS IF WE THINK THAT METAPHOR IS HOW WE TALK OF GOD, AND THAT SEEMS TO ME VERY HARD TO DISPUTE THAT WE TALK OF GOD, AND THAT SEEMS TO ME VERY HARD TO DISPUTE THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY OF TALKING TO ME VERY HARD TO DISPUTE THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY OF TALKING TO GOD, TALKING ABOUT GOD, OTHER THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY OF TALKING TO GOD, TALKING ABOUT GOD, OTHER THAN METAPHORICALLY, THEN IT TO GOD, TALKING ABOUT GOD, OTHER THAN METAPHORICALLY, THEN IT WOULD FOLLOW THAT THE PLACE THAN METAPHORICALLY, THEN IT WOULD FOLLOW THAT THE PLACE WHERE METAPHOR IS MOST WOULD FOLLOW THAT THE PLACE WHERE METAPHOR IS MOST POWERFULLY USED, MOST WHERE METAPHOR IS MOST POWERFULLY USED, MOST COMPRESSED, MOST CONCISE, MOST POWERFULLY USED, MOST COMPRESSED, MOST CONCISE, MOST EXPLOSIVE IN POETRY WOULD BE COMPRESSED, MOST CONCISE, MOST EXPLOSIVE IN POETRY WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD GO TO FIND EXPLOSIVE IN POETRY WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD GO TO FIND RELIGIOUS ENLIGHTENMENT.
WHERE WE WOULD GO TO FIND RELIGIOUS ENLIGHTENMENT.
>> Reporter: HE CITES AS AN RELIGIOUS ENLIGHTENMENT.
>> Reporter: HE CITES AS AN EXAMPLE A POEM THAT HE TEACHES >> Reporter: HE CITES AS AN EXAMPLE A POEM THAT HE TEACHES IN HIS CLASS BY THE POLISH POET EXAMPLE A POEM THAT HE TEACHES IN HIS CLASS BY THE POLISH POET ANNA KAMIENSKA.
IN HIS CLASS BY THE POLISH POET ANNA KAMIENSKA.
>> LORD LET ME SUFFER MUCH AND ANNA KAMIENSKA.
>> LORD LET ME SUFFER MUCH AND THEN DIE LET ME WALK THROUGH >> LORD LET ME SUFFER MUCH AND THEN DIE LET ME WALK THROUGH SILENCE AND LEAVE NOTHING THEN DIE LET ME WALK THROUGH SILENCE AND LEAVE NOTHING BEHIND, NOT EVEN FEAR MAKE THE SILENCE AND LEAVE NOTHING BEHIND, NOT EVEN FEAR MAKE THE WORLD CONTINUE LET THE OCEAN BEHIND, NOT EVEN FEAR MAKE THE WORLD CONTINUE LET THE OCEAN KISS THE SAND JUST AS BEFORE LET WORLD CONTINUE LET THE OCEAN KISS THE SAND JUST AS BEFORE LET THE GRASS STAY GREEN SO THAT KISS THE SAND JUST AS BEFORE LET THE GRASS STAY GREEN SO THAT FROGS CAN HIDE IN IT SO THAT THE GRASS STAY GREEN SO THAT FROGS CAN HIDE IN IT SO THAT SOMEONE CAN BURY HIS FACE IN IT FROGS CAN HIDE IN IT SO THAT SOMEONE CAN BURY HIS FACE IN IT AND SOB OUT HIS LOVE MAKE THE SOMEONE CAN BURY HIS FACE IN IT AND SOB OUT HIS LOVE MAKE THE DAY RISE BRIGHTLY AS IF THERE AND SOB OUT HIS LOVE MAKE THE DAY RISE BRIGHTLY AS IF THERE WERE NO MORE PAIN AND LET MY DAY RISE BRIGHTLY AS IF THERE WERE NO MORE PAIN AND LET MY POEM STAND CLEAR AS A WINDOWPANE WERE NO MORE PAIN AND LET MY POEM STAND CLEAR AS A WINDOWPANE BUMPED BY A BUMBLEBEE'S HEAD POEM STAND CLEAR AS A WINDOWPANE BUMPED BY A BUMBLEBEE'S HEAD IT'S A HARD POEM TO PRAY, "LORD, BUMPED BY A BUMBLEBEE'S HEAD IT'S A HARD POEM TO PRAY, "LORD, LET ME SUFFER, LET ME DIE, LORD, IT'S A HARD POEM TO PRAY, "LORD, LET ME SUFFER, LET ME DIE, LORD, LET NOTHING BE CHANGED AFTER MY LET ME SUFFER, LET ME DIE, LORD, LET NOTHING BE CHANGED AFTER MY DEATH."
LET NOTHING BE CHANGED AFTER MY DEATH."
>> Reporter: WIMAN IS NOW 46, DEATH."
>> Reporter: WIMAN IS NOW 46, AND THE FATHER OF TWIN >> Reporter: WIMAN IS NOW 46, AND THE FATHER OF TWIN DAUGHTERS.
AND THE FATHER OF TWIN DAUGHTERS.
HIS DOCTORS TELL HIM HIS CANCER DAUGHTERS.
HIS DOCTORS TELL HIM HIS CANCER IS "UNDER CONTROL."
HIS DOCTORS TELL HIM HIS CANCER IS "UNDER CONTROL."
BUT HIS PROGNOSIS IS HIGHLY IS "UNDER CONTROL."
BUT HIS PROGNOSIS IS HIGHLY UNCERTAIN.
BUT HIS PROGNOSIS IS HIGHLY UNCERTAIN.
HE HAS ENDURED PAINFUL MARROW UNCERTAIN.
HE HAS ENDURED PAINFUL MARROW TRANSPLANTS AND IN THE COURSE OF HE HAS ENDURED PAINFUL MARROW TRANSPLANTS AND IN THE COURSE OF MANY LONG HOSPITALIZATIONS, TRANSPLANTS AND IN THE COURSE OF MANY LONG HOSPITALIZATIONS, CONFRONTED DEATH.
MANY LONG HOSPITALIZATIONS, CONFRONTED DEATH.
>> I FIND THAT I DON'T FEAR CONFRONTED DEATH.
>> I FIND THAT I DON'T FEAR DEATH, NOW FOR MYSELF.
>> I FIND THAT I DON'T FEAR DEATH, NOW FOR MYSELF.
IT'S JUST A GREAT TRAGEDY TO DEATH, NOW FOR MYSELF.
IT'S JUST A GREAT TRAGEDY TO THINK OF MY FAMILY.
IT'S JUST A GREAT TRAGEDY TO THINK OF MY FAMILY.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT DEATH IS THINK OF MY FAMILY.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT DEATH IS HERE TO TEACH US SOMETHING AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT DEATH IS HERE TO TEACH US SOMETHING AND THAT WE ARE MEANT NOT TO FILL UP HERE TO TEACH US SOMETHING AND THAT WE ARE MEANT NOT TO FILL UP THE CONTENT OF THE AFTERLIFE, THAT WE ARE MEANT NOT TO FILL UP THE CONTENT OF THE AFTERLIFE, AND THAT WE HAVE TO MOSTLY BE THE CONTENT OF THE AFTERLIFE, AND THAT WE HAVE TO MOSTLY BE SILENT ABOUT IT.
AND THAT WE HAVE TO MOSTLY BE SILENT ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: A POEM HE OFTEN SILENT ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: A POEM HE OFTEN READS IN PUBLIC CAME TO HIM >> Reporter: A POEM HE OFTEN READS IN PUBLIC CAME TO HIM AFTER A THREE-YEAR DRY SPELL IN READS IN PUBLIC CAME TO HIM AFTER A THREE-YEAR DRY SPELL IN HIS POETRY WRITING.
AFTER A THREE-YEAR DRY SPELL IN HIS POETRY WRITING.
HE WROTE IT IN ONE OF THE HIS POETRY WRITING.
HE WROTE IT IN ONE OF THE DARKEST PERIODS OF HIS ILLNESS.
HE WROTE IT IN ONE OF THE DARKEST PERIODS OF HIS ILLNESS.
IT IS A PSALM-LIKE PORTRAYAL OF DARKEST PERIODS OF HIS ILLNESS.
IT IS A PSALM-LIKE PORTRAYAL OF A GOD WHO APPEARS IN STONE, IT IS A PSALM-LIKE PORTRAYAL OF A GOD WHO APPEARS IN STONE, ATOM, SHADOW AND ALL CREATION, A GOD WHO APPEARS IN STONE, ATOM, SHADOW AND ALL CREATION, OR AS THE POET SAYS, "IN EVERY ATOM, SHADOW AND ALL CREATION, OR AS THE POET SAYS, "IN EVERY RIVEN THING."
OR AS THE POET SAYS, "IN EVERY RIVEN THING."
>> GOD GOES BELONGING TO EVERY RIVEN THING."
>> GOD GOES BELONGING TO EVERY RIVEN THING.
>> GOD GOES BELONGING TO EVERY RIVEN THING.
HE'S MADE THE THINGS THAT BRING RIVEN THING.
HE'S MADE THE THINGS THAT BRING HIM NEAR, MADE THE MIND THAT HE'S MADE THE THINGS THAT BRING HIM NEAR, MADE THE MIND THAT MAKES HIM GO.
HIM NEAR, MADE THE MIND THAT MAKES HIM GO.
A PART OF WHAT MAN KNOWS, APART MAKES HIM GO.
A PART OF WHAT MAN KNOWS, APART FROM WHAT MAN KNOWS, GOD GOES A PART OF WHAT MAN KNOWS, APART FROM WHAT MAN KNOWS, GOD GOES BELONGING TO EVERY RIVEN THING FROM WHAT MAN KNOWS, GOD GOES BELONGING TO EVERY RIVEN THING HE'S MADE.
BELONGING TO EVERY RIVEN THING HE'S MADE.
>> Reporter: FOR "RELIGION AND HE'S MADE.
>> Reporter: FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," I'M JUDY >> Reporter: FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," I'M JUDY VALENTE AT YALE UNIVERSITY'S ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," I'M JUDY VALENTE AT YALE UNIVERSITY'S INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC.
VALENTE AT YALE UNIVERSITY'S INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC.
>>> ON OUR CALENDAR THIS WEEK -- INSTITUTE OF SACRED MUSIC.
>>> ON OUR CALENDAR THIS WEEK -- SUNDAY IS PENTECOST, WHEN >>> ON OUR CALENDAR THIS WEEK -- SUNDAY IS PENTECOST, WHEN CHRISTIANS CELEBRATE GOD'S GIFT SUNDAY IS PENTECOST, WHEN CHRISTIANS CELEBRATE GOD'S GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THE CHRISTIANS CELEBRATE GOD'S GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THE CHURCH.
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THE CHURCH.
ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT, CHURCH.
ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT, THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME TO JESUS' ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT, THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME TO JESUS' FOLLOWERS IN THE FORM OF TONGUES THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME TO JESUS' FOLLOWERS IN THE FORM OF TONGUES OF FIRE.
FOLLOWERS IN THE FORM OF TONGUES OF FIRE.
PENTECOST IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE OF FIRE.
PENTECOST IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE BIRTHDAY OF THE CHURCH.
PENTECOST IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE BIRTHDAY OF THE CHURCH.
AND LAST WEEK JEWS CELEBRATED BIRTHDAY OF THE CHURCH.
AND LAST WEEK JEWS CELEBRATED THE FESTIVAL OF SHAVUOT, AND LAST WEEK JEWS CELEBRATED THE FESTIVAL OF SHAVUOT, HONORING GOD'S GIFT OF THE TORAH THE FESTIVAL OF SHAVUOT, HONORING GOD'S GIFT OF THE TORAH TO MOSES.
HONORING GOD'S GIFT OF THE TORAH TO MOSES.
WE VISITED THE SIXTH AND I TO MOSES.
WE VISITED THE SIXTH AND I HISTORIC SYNAGOGUE IN WE VISITED THE SIXTH AND I HISTORIC SYNAGOGUE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND TALKED WITH HISTORIC SYNAGOGUE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND TALKED WITH RABBI SHIRA STUTMAN.
WASHINGTON, D.C. AND TALKED WITH RABBI SHIRA STUTMAN.
>> THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IS RABBI SHIRA STUTMAN.
>> THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MORE >> THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT HOLIDAYS IN THE JEWISH ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT HOLIDAYS IN THE JEWISH TRADITION, AND IT BASICALLY HAS IMPORTANT HOLIDAYS IN THE JEWISH TRADITION, AND IT BASICALLY HAS TWO REASONS FOR BEING.
TRADITION, AND IT BASICALLY HAS TWO REASONS FOR BEING.
THE ORIGINAL REASON COMES OUT OF TWO REASONS FOR BEING.
THE ORIGINAL REASON COMES OUT OF THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE BEING AN THE ORIGINAL REASON COMES OUT OF THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE BEING AN AGRICULTURAL PEOPLE A FEW THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE BEING AN AGRICULTURAL PEOPLE A FEW THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN THE LAND AGRICULTURAL PEOPLE A FEW THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN THE LAND THAT WE NOW CALL ISRAEL.
THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN THE LAND THAT WE NOW CALL ISRAEL.
THE ISRAELITES WOULD BRING THE THAT WE NOW CALL ISRAEL.
THE ISRAELITES WOULD BRING THE BIKKURIM, THE FIRST FRUITS, THE THE ISRAELITES WOULD BRING THE BIKKURIM, THE FIRST FRUITS, THE FIRST OFFERINGS, OF THEIR BIKKURIM, THE FIRST FRUITS, THE FIRST OFFERINGS, OF THEIR HARVEST UP TO THE TEMPLE AS AN FIRST OFFERINGS, OF THEIR HARVEST UP TO THE TEMPLE AS AN OFFERING TO GOD, AS A WAY OF HARVEST UP TO THE TEMPLE AS AN OFFERING TO GOD, AS A WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU AND IN HOPES OF OFFERING TO GOD, AS A WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU AND IN HOPES OF A GOOD HARVEST.
SAYING THANK YOU AND IN HOPES OF A GOOD HARVEST.
AFTER THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED A GOOD HARVEST.
AFTER THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED IN ABOUT 70 CE, THE RABBIS AFTER THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED IN ABOUT 70 CE, THE RABBIS NEEDED TO ENLARGE THE IN ABOUT 70 CE, THE RABBIS NEEDED TO ENLARGE THE UNDERSTANDING OF SHAVUOT BECAUSE NEEDED TO ENLARGE THE UNDERSTANDING OF SHAVUOT BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAD A TEMPLE TO UNDERSTANDING OF SHAVUOT BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAD A TEMPLE TO WHICH PEOPLE COULD BRING THEIR WE NO LONGER HAD A TEMPLE TO WHICH PEOPLE COULD BRING THEIR OFFERINGS.
WHICH PEOPLE COULD BRING THEIR OFFERINGS.
SO THEY BROUGHT FORWARD THIS OFFERINGS.
SO THEY BROUGHT FORWARD THIS UNDERSTANDING OF SHAVUOT AS SO THEY BROUGHT FORWARD THIS UNDERSTANDING OF SHAVUOT AS BEING THE ANNIVERSARY OF UNDERSTANDING OF SHAVUOT AS BEING THE ANNIVERSARY OF REVELATION -- THE ANNIVERSARY OF BEING THE ANNIVERSARY OF REVELATION -- THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE MOMENT THAT GOD GAVE THE REVELATION -- THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE MOMENT THAT GOD GAVE THE TORAH, OUR BIBLE OR A PART OF THE MOMENT THAT GOD GAVE THE TORAH, OUR BIBLE OR A PART OF THE HEBREW BIBLE, TO THE TORAH, OUR BIBLE OR A PART OF THE HEBREW BIBLE, TO THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE ON MOUNT SINAI, THE HEBREW BIBLE, TO THE ISRAELITE PEOPLE ON MOUNT SINAI, BASICALLY TURNING THEM FROM THIS ISRAELITE PEOPLE ON MOUNT SINAI, BASICALLY TURNING THEM FROM THIS RAG-TAG GROUP OF SLAVES WHO HAD BASICALLY TURNING THEM FROM THIS RAG-TAG GROUP OF SLAVES WHO HAD JUST WEEKS AGO COME OUT OF EGYPT RAG-TAG GROUP OF SLAVES WHO HAD JUST WEEKS AGO COME OUT OF EGYPT INTO A PEOPLE COMPLETE WITH ITS JUST WEEKS AGO COME OUT OF EGYPT INTO A PEOPLE COMPLETE WITH ITS OWN SET OF TEXTS AND WAYS OF INTO A PEOPLE COMPLETE WITH ITS OWN SET OF TEXTS AND WAYS OF BEING IN THE WORLD.
OWN SET OF TEXTS AND WAYS OF BEING IN THE WORLD.
SHAVUOT, ACTUALLY, PROBABLY MORE BEING IN THE WORLD.
SHAVUOT, ACTUALLY, PROBABLY MORE THAN ANY OTHER HOLIDAY ON THE SHAVUOT, ACTUALLY, PROBABLY MORE THAN ANY OTHER HOLIDAY ON THE JEWISH CALENDAR, IS VERY THAN ANY OTHER HOLIDAY ON THE JEWISH CALENDAR, IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR AMERICAN JEWS IN JEWISH CALENDAR, IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR AMERICAN JEWS IN THE 21ST CENTURY TO WRAP THEIR DIFFICULT FOR AMERICAN JEWS IN THE 21ST CENTURY TO WRAP THEIR HANDS AROUND, AND ONE OF THE THE 21ST CENTURY TO WRAP THEIR HANDS AROUND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT HANDS AROUND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF THE SAME HOME-BASED REASONS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF THE SAME HOME-BASED RITUALS THAT WE HAVE, FOR A LOT OF THE SAME HOME-BASED RITUALS THAT WE HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE PASSOVER RITUALS THAT WE HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE PASSOVER SEDER OR LIGHTING THE HANUKKAH INSTANCE, WITH THE PASSOVER SEDER OR LIGHTING THE HANUKKAH MENORAH.
SEDER OR LIGHTING THE HANUKKAH MENORAH.
YOU ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE MENORAH.
YOU ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TRYING TO ENGAGE JEWISH YOU ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TRYING TO ENGAGE JEWISH PEOPLE AND JEWISH FAMILIES IN PEOPLE TRYING TO ENGAGE JEWISH PEOPLE AND JEWISH FAMILIES IN THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IN UNUSUAL PEOPLE AND JEWISH FAMILIES IN THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IN UNUSUAL WAYS, AND THAT IS WHAT SIXTH AND THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IN UNUSUAL WAYS, AND THAT IS WHAT SIXTH AND I IS DOING TONIGHT -- PEOPLE WAYS, AND THAT IS WHAT SIXTH AND I IS DOING TONIGHT -- PEOPLE USING TRADITIONAL JEWISH TEXTS I IS DOING TONIGHT -- PEOPLE USING TRADITIONAL JEWISH TEXTS TO HAVE CONTEMPORARY USING TRADITIONAL JEWISH TEXTS TO HAVE CONTEMPORARY CONVERSATIONS.
TO HAVE CONTEMPORARY CONVERSATIONS.
WHAT -- HOW DOES MY LIFE HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
WHAT -- HOW DOES MY LIFE HAVE MEANING?
WHAT -- HOW DOES MY LIFE HAVE MEANING?
WHAT ARE THE TEN-JEWISH MEANING?
WHAT ARE THE TEN-JEWISH COMMANDMENTS OF SPORTS?
WHAT ARE THE TEN-JEWISH COMMANDMENTS OF SPORTS?
HOW DO WE TAKE THIS TRADITION COMMANDMENTS OF SPORTS?
HOW DO WE TAKE THIS TRADITION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR HOW DO WE TAKE THIS TRADITION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND MAKE IT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND MAKE IT RELEVANT TO US TODAY?
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND MAKE IT RELEVANT TO US TODAY?
IT IS TRADITIONAL TO READ THE RELEVANT TO US TODAY?
IT IS TRADITIONAL TO READ THE BOOK OF RUTH, BECAUSE IT IS A IT IS TRADITIONAL TO READ THE BOOK OF RUTH, BECAUSE IT IS A BOOK ABOUT THE BARLEY HARVEST.
BOOK OF RUTH, BECAUSE IT IS A BOOK ABOUT THE BARLEY HARVEST.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN BOOK ABOUT THE BARLEY HARVEST.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN A SOCIETY WHERE THERE ARE HAVES IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN A SOCIETY WHERE THERE ARE HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS, AND HOW WE CAN A SOCIETY WHERE THERE ARE HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS, AND HOW WE CAN ACT AS PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE, OR AND HAVE-NOTS, AND HOW WE CAN ACT AS PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE, OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LESS, AND ENGAGE ACT AS PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE, OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LESS, AND ENGAGE EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LESS, AND ENGAGE EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MORE EQUITY AND SOCIAL EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MORE EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE IN THE WORLD.
THERE'S MORE EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE IN THE WORLD.
SOME OF THE OTHER TRADITIONS JUSTICE IN THE WORLD.
SOME OF THE OTHER TRADITIONS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE TONIGHT SOME OF THE OTHER TRADITIONS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE TONIGHT ARE THE MAKING OF CHEESECAKE AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE TONIGHT ARE THE MAKING OF CHEESECAKE AND CHALLAH, BECAUSE ON SHAVUOT THE ARE THE MAKING OF CHEESECAKE AND CHALLAH, BECAUSE ON SHAVUOT THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE CHALLAH, BECAUSE ON SHAVUOT THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EAT DAIRY FOODS, UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EAT DAIRY FOODS, BECAUSE ON THE DAY THAT THE SUPPOSED TO EAT DAIRY FOODS, BECAUSE ON THE DAY THAT THE ISRAELITES RECEIVED THE TORAH BECAUSE ON THE DAY THAT THE ISRAELITES RECEIVED THE TORAH THEY ALSO ATE DAIRY FOODS.
ISRAELITES RECEIVED THE TORAH THEY ALSO ATE DAIRY FOODS.
THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF LAWS THAT THEY ALSO ATE DAIRY FOODS.
THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF LAWS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO SHAVUOT.
THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF LAWS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO SHAVUOT.
BUT ONE OF THE LAWS THAT'S ARE SPECIFIC TO SHAVUOT.
BUT ONE OF THE LAWS THAT'S SPECIFIC TO SHAVUOT IS THE BUT ONE OF THE LAWS THAT'S SPECIFIC TO SHAVUOT IS THE VEHAYITA ACH SAMEACH THAT YOU SPECIFIC TO SHAVUOT IS THE VEHAYITA ACH SAMEACH THAT YOU SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY VEHAYITA ACH SAMEACH THAT YOU SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HAPPY, AND ON THE SHAVUOT SHOULD BE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HAPPY, AND ON THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IT IS A TIME OF HAPPY, AND ON THE SHAVUOT HOLIDAY IT IS A TIME OF REJOICING, REJOICING IN THE HOLIDAY IT IS A TIME OF REJOICING, REJOICING IN THE HARVEST, REJOICING IN THIS GIFT REJOICING, REJOICING IN THE HARVEST, REJOICING IN THIS GIFT OF TORAH THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US, HARVEST, REJOICING IN THIS GIFT OF TORAH THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US, AND REJOICING IN THE ABILITY TO OF TORAH THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US, AND REJOICING IN THE ABILITY TO LEARN FROM TORAH IN EACH AND AND REJOICING IN THE ABILITY TO LEARN FROM TORAH IN EACH AND EVERY GENERATION.
LEARN FROM TORAH IN EACH AND EVERY GENERATION.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING US EVERY GENERATION.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING US DO HERE TONIGHT -- STAY UP ALL >> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING US DO HERE TONIGHT -- STAY UP ALL NIGHT AND STUDY JEWISH TEXT.
DO HERE TONIGHT -- STAY UP ALL NIGHT AND STUDY JEWISH TEXT.
>>> FINALLY, THE GALLUP POLL HAS NIGHT AND STUDY JEWISH TEXT.
>>> FINALLY, THE GALLUP POLL HAS REPORTED ITS ANNUAL FINDINGS ON >>> FINALLY, THE GALLUP POLL HAS REPORTED ITS ANNUAL FINDINGS ON WHAT BEHAVIORS AMERICANS FIND REPORTED ITS ANNUAL FINDINGS ON WHAT BEHAVIORS AMERICANS FIND MORALLY ACCEPTABLE, OR NOT.
WHAT BEHAVIORS AMERICANS FIND MORALLY ACCEPTABLE, OR NOT.
DIVORCE IS TOLERATED BY 69% OF MORALLY ACCEPTABLE, OR NOT.
DIVORCE IS TOLERATED BY 69% OF US.
DIVORCE IS TOLERATED BY 69% OF US.
SEX BETWEEN UNMARRIED ADULTS BY US.
SEX BETWEEN UNMARRIED ADULTS BY 66% AND GAY AND LESBIAN SEX BETWEEN UNMARRIED ADULTS BY 66% AND GAY AND LESBIAN RELATIONS, 58% BIRTH CONTROL IS 66% AND GAY AND LESBIAN RELATIONS, 58% BIRTH CONTROL IS ACCEPTED BY 90%.
RELATIONS, 58% BIRTH CONTROL IS ACCEPTED BY 90%.
EXTRA MARITAL AFFAIRS, JUST 7%.
ACCEPTED BY 90%.
EXTRA MARITAL AFFAIRS, JUST 7%.
>>> THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR NOW.
EXTRA MARITAL AFFAIRS, JUST 7%.
>>> THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR NOW.
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