FOUNDATION.
FOUNDATION.
>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE FOUNDATION.
>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, WHY MASS SHOOTINGS ARE A CONTRARY" FIRST, WHY MASS SHOOTINGS ARE A MAN'S ISSUE.
FIRST, WHY MASS SHOOTINGS ARE A MAN'S ISSUE.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: ARIANNA MAN'S ISSUE.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: ARIANNA HUFFINGTON SAYS WE SHOULD LEARN BEHIND THE HEADLINES: ARIANNA HUFFINGTON SAYS WE SHOULD LEARN THE VALUE OF REST AND RECOVERY.
HUFFINGTON SAYS WE SHOULD LEARN THE VALUE OF REST AND RECOVERY.
AND, REMEMBERING DR. MAYA THE VALUE OF REST AND RECOVERY.
AND, REMEMBERING DR. MAYA ANGELOU.
HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY", A HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY", A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY", A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, CHANGING OUR CULTURE PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, CHANGING OUR CULTURE TO PREVENT MASS SHOOTINGS.
UP FIRST, CHANGING OUR CULTURE TO PREVENT MASS SHOOTINGS.
ARE MASS SHOOTINGS AN EPIDEMIC TO PREVENT MASS SHOOTINGS.
ARE MASS SHOOTINGS AN EPIDEMIC OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN?
ARE MASS SHOOTINGS AN EPIDEMIC OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN?
THE KILLING SPREE LAST WEEK IN OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN?
THE KILLING SPREE LAST WEEK IN CALIFORNIA BY A 22 YEAR OLD THE KILLING SPREE LAST WEEK IN CALIFORNIA BY A 22 YEAR OLD STUDENT WHOSE NAME WE WON'T CALIFORNIA BY A 22 YEAR OLD STUDENT WHOSE NAME WE WON'T MENTION AND FACE WE WON'T SHOW STUDENT WHOSE NAME WE WON'T MENTION AND FACE WE WON'T SHOW HAS SPARKED A FLURRY OF ONLINE MENTION AND FACE WE WON'T SHOW HAS SPARKED A FLURRY OF ONLINE DEBATE OVER THE DAILY SEXIST HAS SPARKED A FLURRY OF ONLINE DEBATE OVER THE DAILY SEXIST TREATMENT OF WOMEN.
DEBATE OVER THE DAILY SEXIST TREATMENT OF WOMEN.
WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?
TREATMENT OF WOMEN.
WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?
AS OUR WAY OF PREVENTING COPYCAT WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?
AS OUR WAY OF PREVENTING COPYCAT ACTS.
AS OUR WAY OF PREVENTING COPYCAT ACTS.
THE KILLER WROTE THE FOLLOWING: ACTS.
THE KILLER WROTE THE FOLLOWING: "MY HATRED AND RAGE TOWARD ALL THE KILLER WROTE THE FOLLOWING: "MY HATRED AND RAGE TOWARD ALL WOMEN FESTERED INSIDE ME LIKE A "MY HATRED AND RAGE TOWARD ALL WOMEN FESTERED INSIDE ME LIKE A PLAGUE ?
WOMEN DEEMED ME WOMEN FESTERED INSIDE ME LIKE A PLAGUE ?
WOMEN DEEMED ME UNWORTHY OF HAVING THEM, AND SO PLAGUE ?
WOMEN DEEMED ME UNWORTHY OF HAVING THEM, AND SO THEY DEPRIVED ME OF AN ENJOYABLE UNWORTHY OF HAVING THEM, AND SO THEY DEPRIVED ME OF AN ENJOYABLE YOUTH, WHILE GIVING THEIR LOVE THEY DEPRIVED ME OF AN ENJOYABLE YOUTH, WHILE GIVING THEIR LOVE AND SEX TO OTHER BOYS."
YOUTH, WHILE GIVING THEIR LOVE AND SEX TO OTHER BOYS."
MANY MEN RESPONDED ONLINE WITH AND SEX TO OTHER BOYS."
MANY MEN RESPONDED ONLINE WITH THE #NOTALLMEN.
MANY MEN RESPONDED ONLINE WITH THE #NOTALLMEN.
THE TERM WAS INVENTED TO DEFEND THE #NOTALLMEN.
THE TERM WAS INVENTED TO DEFEND NONVIOLENT MEN, WHICH IS OF THE TERM WAS INVENTED TO DEFEND NONVIOLENT MEN, WHICH IS OF COURSE MOST MEN.
NONVIOLENT MEN, WHICH IS OF COURSE MOST MEN.
FRUSTRATION WITH THE HASHTAG AND COURSE MOST MEN.
FRUSTRATION WITH THE HASHTAG AND AN APPARENT FAILURE TO FRUSTRATION WITH THE HASHTAG AND AN APPARENT FAILURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ROLE MISOGYNY AN APPARENT FAILURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ROLE MISOGYNY PLAYED IN THE RECENT SHOOTINGS ACKNOWLEDGE THE ROLE MISOGYNY PLAYED IN THE RECENT SHOOTINGS LED TO ANOTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLAYED IN THE RECENT SHOOTINGS LED TO ANOTHER SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN, #YESALLWOMEN.
LED TO ANOTHER SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN, #YESALLWOMEN.
THE TERM WAS CREATED TO SHIFT CAMPAIGN, #YESALLWOMEN.
THE TERM WAS CREATED TO SHIFT FOCUS AWAY FROM WHAT MEN DON'T THE TERM WAS CREATED TO SHIFT FOCUS AWAY FROM WHAT MEN DON'T DO TO WHAT WOMEN MUST FEAR ON A FOCUS AWAY FROM WHAT MEN DON'T DO TO WHAT WOMEN MUST FEAR ON A DAILY BASIS.
DO TO WHAT WOMEN MUST FEAR ON A DAILY BASIS.
AUTHOR, FILM MAKER JACKSON KATZ DAILY BASIS.
AUTHOR, FILM MAKER JACKSON KATZ SOS IT'S GENDERED VIOLENCE AUTHOR, FILM MAKER JACKSON KATZ SOS IT'S GENDERED VIOLENCE SHOULD BE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY IN SOS IT'S GENDERED VIOLENCE SHOULD BE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL.
SHOULD BE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL.
>> ALMOST EVERY CASE THE MUCH GREATER DETAIL.
>> ALMOST EVERY CASE THE CONVERSATION TALKS ABOUT IN >> ALMOST EVERY CASE THE CONVERSATION TALKS ABOUT IN TERMS OF MOTIVEE PLAN TERRY, GUN CONVERSATION TALKS ABOUT IN TERMS OF MOTIVEE PLAN TERRY, GUN AVAILABILITY AND MENTAL ILLNESS.
TERMS OF MOTIVEE PLAN TERRY, GUN AVAILABILITY AND MENTAL ILLNESS.
I THINK A NATIONAL CONVERSATION AVAILABILITY AND MENTAL ILLNESS.
I THINK A NATIONAL CONVERSATION A MUCH MORE HONEST NATIONAL I THINK A NATIONAL CONVERSATION A MUCH MORE HONEST NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT CULTURAL A MUCH MORE HONEST NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT CULTURAL NARRATIVES ABOUT MANHOOD, HOW WE CONVERSATION ABOUT CULTURAL NARRATIVES ABOUT MANHOOD, HOW WE SOCIALIZE BOYING, WHAT IS THE NARRATIVES ABOUT MANHOOD, HOW WE SOCIALIZE BOYING, WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN VIOLENCE SOCIALIZE BOYING, WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN VIOLENCE AND MASCULINITY AND RECLAIM RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN VIOLENCE AND MASCULINITY AND RECLAIM SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN AND MASCULINITY AND RECLAIM SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM HIM.
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM HIM.
IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF SCHOOL FROM HIM.
IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS HE MEN ARE RESPONDING IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS HE MEN ARE RESPONDING TO HAVING BEEN BULLIED, FEELINGS SHOOTINGS HE MEN ARE RESPONDING TO HAVING BEEN BULLIED, FEELINGS OF LOSS OR GRIEF OR ANXIETY TO HAVING BEEN BULLIED, FEELINGS OF LOSS OR GRIEF OR ANXIETY ABOUT NOT MEASURING UP AS MEN OF LOSS OR GRIEF OR ANXIETY ABOUT NOT MEASURING UP AS MEN AND USE VIOLENCE AS MEANS OF ABOUT NOT MEASURING UP AS MEN AND USE VIOLENCE AS MEANS OF CHANGING THE NARRATIVE THAT AND USE VIOLENCE AS MEANS OF CHANGING THE NARRATIVE THAT PLACES THEM BACK AT THE CENTER CHANGING THE NARRATIVE THAT PLACES THEM BACK AT THE CENTER OF THE NARRATIVE AS MANLY MEN PLACES THEM BACK AT THE CENTER OF THE NARRATIVE AS MANLY MEN WHO ARE TAKING ACTS CONTROL OF OF THE NARRATIVE AS MANLY MEN WHO ARE TAKING ACTS CONTROL OF THEIR LIVES.
WHO ARE TAKING ACTS CONTROL OF THEIR LIVES.
UNLESS WE HAVE A CONVERSATION THEIR LIVES.
UNLESS WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE CULTURE NARRATIVES UNLESS WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE CULTURE NARRATIVES THAT ARE PERVASIVE JUST HAVE ABOUT THESE CULTURE NARRATIVES THAT ARE PERVASIVE JUST HAVE SHOOTING AFTER SHOOTING IN A THAT ARE PERVASIVE JUST HAVE SHOOTING AFTER SHOOTING IN A CULTURE THAT IS AWASH IN GUNS SHOOTING AFTER SHOOTING IN A CULTURE THAT IS AWASH IN GUNS AND MEN WHO ARE INSECURE AND CULTURE THAT IS AWASH IN GUNS AND MEN WHO ARE INSECURE AND FEELING POWERLESSNESS.
AND MEN WHO ARE INSECURE AND FEELING POWERLESSNESS.
>> HIGHWAY CAN WOMEN PLAY A ROLE FEELING POWERLESSNESS.
>> HIGHWAY CAN WOMEN PLAY A ROLE IN MOVING THE CONVERSATION >> HIGHWAY CAN WOMEN PLAY A ROLE IN MOVING THE CONVERSATION FORWARD?
IN MOVING THE CONVERSATION FORWARD?
>> IT'S BEEN WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN FORWARD?
>> IT'S BEEN WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LEADING >> IT'S BEEN WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LEADING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CULTURAL TALKING ABOUT LEADING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CULTURAL IDEOLOGIES OF MANHOOD.
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CULTURAL IDEOLOGIES OF MANHOOD.
MEMBER HAVE BEEN RESISTANT TO IDEOLOGIES OF MANHOOD.
MEMBER HAVE BEEN RESISTANT TO THAT CONVERSATION BUT WE NEED MEMBER HAVE BEEN RESISTANT TO THAT CONVERSATION BUT WE NEED MORE MEN TO JOIN THEM HAVE THE THAT CONVERSATION BUT WE NEED MORE MEN TO JOIN THEM HAVE THE INTEGRITY AND HONESTY AND SELF MORE MEN TO JOIN THEM HAVE THE INTEGRITY AND HONESTY AND SELF CONFIDENCE TO SAY, YOU KNOW INTEGRITY AND HONESTY AND SELF CONFIDENCE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AS A MAN PLAY A ROLE IN CONFIDENCE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AS A MAN PLAY A ROLE IN THIS CULTURE I'M GOING TO HAVE WHAT, I AS A MAN PLAY A ROLE IN THIS CULTURE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE HONEST AND SELF CRITICAL THIS CULTURE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE HONEST AND SELF CRITICAL AND FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN MAY TO BE HONEST AND SELF CRITICAL AND FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN MAY MORE CONSTRUCTIVE ROLE IN AND FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN MAY MORE CONSTRUCTIVE ROLE IN ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES.
MORE CONSTRUCTIVE ROLE IN ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES.
THE CONVERSATION UP UNTIL NOW ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES.
THE CONVERSATION UP UNTIL NOW HASN'T GOTTEN IS VERY FAR.
THE CONVERSATION UP UNTIL NOW HASN'T GOTTEN IS VERY FAR.
HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT MUCH AND HASN'T GOTTEN IS VERY FAR.
HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT MUCH AND MISSING PIECE LIKE I SAID NOT HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT MUCH AND MISSING PIECE LIKE I SAID NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED TO MISSING PIECE LIKE I SAID NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED TO DO BUT THE MISSING PIECE HAS THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED TO DO BUT THE MISSING PIECE HAS BEEN MUCH MORE ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT DO BUT THE MISSING PIECE HAS BEEN MUCH MORE ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT ON THE PART OF MEN.
BEEN MUCH MORE ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT ON THE PART OF MEN.
>> DONNA BRAZILE, WELCOME BACK ON THE PART OF MEN.
>> DONNA BRAZILE, WELCOME BACK WE MISSED YOU.
>> DONNA BRAZILE, WELCOME BACK WE MISSED YOU.
WILL TALKING ABOUT MASSING WE MISSED YOU.
WILL TALKING ABOUT MASSING KILLINGS BUT WHITE MEN HE TALKS WILL TALKING ABOUT MASSING KILLINGS BUT WHITE MEN HE TALKS ABOUT THAT NOT IN THE CLIP THAT KILLINGS BUT WHITE MEN HE TALKS ABOUT THAT NOT IN THE CLIP THAT WE USED BUT WILL THAT -- SHOULD ABOUT THAT NOT IN THE CLIP THAT WE USED BUT WILL THAT -- SHOULD THAT BE PART OF THE WE USED BUT WILL THAT -- SHOULD THAT BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION, WILL IT HELP OR THAT BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION, WILL IT HELP OR HURT?
CONVERSATION, WILL IT HELP OR HURT?
>> I THINK SO.
HURT?
>> I THINK SO.
98% OF MASS SHOOTERS ARE WHITE >> I THINK SO.
98% OF MASS SHOOTERS ARE WHITE MALES.
98% OF MASS SHOOTERS ARE WHITE MALES.
AND WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THEM AS MALES.
AND WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THEM AS INDIVIDUALS AND ISOLATED CASE AND WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THEM AS INDIVIDUALS AND ISOLATED CASE AND PERHAPS WHATEVER MENTAL INDIVIDUALS AND ISOLATED CASE AND PERHAPS WHATEVER MENTAL STATE HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN, WE AND PERHAPS WHATEVER MENTAL STATE HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN, WE DON'T LOOK AT THE WHOLE BIGGER STATE HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN, WE DON'T LOOK AT THE WHOLE BIGGER PICTURE, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT DON'T LOOK AT THE WHOLE BIGGER PICTURE, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE TALK ABOUT SEXUAL REJECTION PICTURE, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE TALK ABOUT SEXUAL REJECTION THAT OFTEN LEADS MEN TO WANT TO WE TALK ABOUT SEXUAL REJECTION THAT OFTEN LEADS MEN TO WANT TO GO AFTER THE PERSON, THE THAT OFTEN LEADS MEN TO WANT TO GO AFTER THE PERSON, THE VIOLENCE.
GO AFTER THE PERSON, THE VIOLENCE.
IT'S OFTEN DIRECTED AT WOMEN.
VIOLENCE.
IT'S OFTEN DIRECTED AT WOMEN.
>> I THINK THIS IS AN IT'S OFTEN DIRECTED AT WOMEN.
>> I THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING LINE OF INQUIRY BUT >> I THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING LINE OF INQUIRY BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO INTERESTING LINE OF INQUIRY BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO EXTRAPOLATE TOO MUCH FROM ANY OF WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO EXTRAPOLATE TOO MUCH FROM ANY OF THESE HORRIFYING INCIDENTS TO EXTRAPOLATE TOO MUCH FROM ANY OF THESE HORRIFYING INCIDENTS TO THE LARGER SOCIETY.
THESE HORRIFYING INCIDENTS TO THE LARGER SOCIETY.
I HATE TO THINK THAT WE'VE THE LARGER SOCIETY.
I HATE TO THINK THAT WE'VE CREATED CULTURE WHERE WE'RE I HATE TO THINK THAT WE'VE CREATED CULTURE WHERE WE'RE PITTING MEN AGAINST WOMEN.
CREATED CULTURE WHERE WE'RE PITTING MEN AGAINST WOMEN.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT STEREOTYPES PITTING MEN AGAINST WOMEN.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT STEREOTYPES BOX EVERYBODY IN.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT STEREOTYPES BOX EVERYBODY IN.
WHETHER YOU ARE A MAN OR A WOMAN BOX EVERYBODY IN.
WHETHER YOU ARE A MAN OR A WOMAN OR MINORITY OF ANY SORT, ONE OF WHETHER YOU ARE A MAN OR A WOMAN OR MINORITY OF ANY SORT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU END UP OR MINORITY OF ANY SORT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU END UP SEEING IS THAT STEREOTYPES DO THE THINGS THAT YOU END UP SEEING IS THAT STEREOTYPES DO LIMIT YOUR CHOICES.
SEEING IS THAT STEREOTYPES DO LIMIT YOUR CHOICES.
AND WHEN PEOPLE SORT OF FEEL LIMIT YOUR CHOICES.
AND WHEN PEOPLE SORT OF FEEL BOXED IN BY THEM, ONE OF THE AND WHEN PEOPLE SORT OF FEEL BOXED IN BY THEM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IS RAGE BOXED IN BY THEM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IS RAGE AGAINST SORT OF THE MACHINE, TO THINGS THAT HAPPENS IS RAGE AGAINST SORT OF THE MACHINE, TO SPEAK.
AGAINST SORT OF THE MACHINE, TO SPEAK.
>> MORE SO THAN GENDER I HOPE IT SPEAK.
>> MORE SO THAN GENDER I HOPE IT AGAIN STARTS CONVERSATION ON >> MORE SO THAN GENDER I HOPE IT AGAIN STARTS CONVERSATION ON BULLYING IN SCHOOLS.
AGAIN STARTS CONVERSATION ON BULLYING IN SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ONE OF BULLYING IN SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ONE OF THE COMMON FACTORS THAT THEY BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE ONE OF THE COMMON FACTORS THAT THEY WERE BULLIED.
THE COMMON FACTORS THAT THEY WERE BULLIED.
NOT JUST REJECTED BY WOMEN OR WERE BULLIED.
NOT JUST REJECTED BY WOMEN OR REJECTED BY PEOPLE, THEIR PEERS NOT JUST REJECTED BY WOMEN OR REJECTED BY PEOPLE, THEIR PEERS THEY WERE BULLIED IN SCHOOLS.
REJECTED BY PEOPLE, THEIR PEERS THEY WERE BULLIED IN SCHOOLS.
I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THEY WERE BULLIED IN SCHOOLS.
I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION TO BE HAVING.
I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION TO BE HAVING.
>> I THINK, WANT TO GET BACK TO DISCUSSION TO BE HAVING.
>> I THINK, WANT TO GET BACK TO JACKSON KATZ HE'S FORMIDABLE >> I THINK, WANT TO GET BACK TO JACKSON KATZ HE'S FORMIDABLE FIGURE IN BRINGING MEN IN TO THE JACKSON KATZ HE'S FORMIDABLE FIGURE IN BRINGING MEN IN TO THE CONVERSATION AND I THINK FIGURE IN BRINGING MEN IN TO THE CONVERSATION AND I THINK PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE CONVERSATION AND I THINK PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE FINAL CHAPTER IN FEMINISM IS PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE FINAL CHAPTER IN FEMINISM IS GETTING MEN INVOLVED.
FINAL CHAPTER IN FEMINISM IS GETTING MEN INVOLVED.
AND GETTING -- GETTING MEN DOING GETTING MEN INVOLVED.
AND GETTING -- GETTING MEN DOING HALF THE HOUSE COMPARE.
AND GETTING -- GETTING MEN DOING HALF THE HOUSE COMPARE.
WORKING WITH THEIR WOMEN, SEEING HALF THE HOUSE COMPARE.
WORKING WITH THEIR WOMEN, SEEING THEIR OWN WOMEN AS EQUAL AND WORKING WITH THEIR WOMEN, SEEING THEIR OWN WOMEN AS EQUAL AND THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO LEAD TO THEIR OWN WOMEN AS EQUAL AND THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO LEAD TO SOCIAL JUSTICE IN THE GENDER THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO LEAD TO SOCIAL JUSTICE IN THE GENDER JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY.
SOCIAL JUSTICE IN THE GENDER JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY.
BUT DON'T WE ALSO, DONNA, JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY.
BUT DON'T WE ALSO, DONNA, RISK -- IF WE START LASHING OUT BUT DON'T WE ALSO, DONNA, RISK -- IF WE START LASHING OUT AT WHITE MEN FOR BEING RISK -- IF WE START LASHING OUT AT WHITE MEN FOR BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE KILLINGS AT WHITE MEN FOR BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE KILLINGS THAT'S GOT TO BE -- THAT'S GOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE KILLINGS THAT'S GOT TO BE -- THAT'S GOT TO HAVE TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES THAT'S GOT TO BE -- THAT'S GOT TO HAVE TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES ONE WOULD THINK.
TO HAVE TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES ONE WOULD THINK.
>> 33 PEOPLE DIE EVERY DAY IN ONE WOULD THINK.
>> 33 PEOPLE DIE EVERY DAY IN THIS COUNTRY, WE SEE INCIDENTS >> 33 PEOPLE DIE EVERY DAY IN THIS COUNTRY, WE SEE INCIDENTS OF BLACK ON -- THIS COUNTRY, WE SEE INCIDENTS OF BLACK ON -- >> BY GUN VIOLENCE.
OF BLACK ON -- >> BY GUN VIOLENCE.
>> BLACK ON BLACK GUN VIOLENCE.
>> BY GUN VIOLENCE.
>> BLACK ON BLACK GUN VIOLENCE.
BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T TALK >> BLACK ON BLACK GUN VIOLENCE.
BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE LARGER BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE LARGER SOCIETAL ISSUES WE'LL NOT GET TO ABOUT SOME OF THESE LARGER SOCIETAL ISSUES WE'LL NOT GET TO THE HEART OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN SOCIETAL ISSUES WE'LL NOT GET TO THE HEART OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR CULTURE RIGHT NOW.
THE HEART OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR CULTURE RIGHT NOW.
PEOPLE FEELING ISOLATED, OUR CULTURE RIGHT NOW.
PEOPLE FEELING ISOLATED, ALIENATED NOT FEELING THAT THEY PEOPLE FEELING ISOLATED, ALIENATED NOT FEELING THAT THEY BELONG, BEING BULLIED.
ALIENATED NOT FEELING THAT THEY BELONG, BEING BULLIED.
IF WE DON'T TRY TO DIRECT SOME BELONG, BEING BULLIED.
IF WE DON'T TRY TO DIRECT SOME OF THESE SYSTEMIC FACTORS I IF WE DON'T TRY TO DIRECT SOME OF THESE SYSTEMIC FACTORS I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET TO THE OF THESE SYSTEMIC FACTORS I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT IS CAUSING OUR DON'T THINK WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT IS CAUSING OUR KIDS AND OTHERS TO GO OUT THERE BOTTOM OF WHAT IS CAUSING OUR KIDS AND OTHERS TO GO OUT THERE AND SEEK REVEHICLE BECAUSE THEY KIDS AND OTHERS TO GO OUT THERE AND SEEK REVEHICLE BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN AND SEEK REVEHICLE BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY SOMEONE.
FEEL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY SOMEONE.
>> OF COURSE ONE OF THE THINGS TARGETED BY SOMEONE.
>> OF COURSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, I THINK >> OF COURSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE MEN THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE MEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION BUT I THIS IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE MEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS DRIVEN MEN TO MAYBE NOT FEEL THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS DRIVEN MEN TO MAYBE NOT FEEL PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS DRIVEN MEN TO MAYBE NOT FEEL PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS MODERN FEMINISM.
PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS MODERN FEMINISM.
WE'VE CREATED A WORLD WHICH WE MODERN FEMINISM.
WE'VE CREATED A WORLD WHICH WE EXPECT WOMEN AND MEN TO BE THE WE'VE CREATED A WORLD WHICH WE EXPECT WOMEN AND MEN TO BE THE SAME.
EXPECT WOMEN AND MEN TO BE THE SAME.
IN SOME REGARD I WOULDN'T WANT SAME.
IN SOME REGARD I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO SO FAR TO SAY THAT'S THE IN SOME REGARD I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO SO FAR TO SAY THAT'S THE REASON FOR ANY OF THIS, OF TO GO SO FAR TO SAY THAT'S THE REASON FOR ANY OF THIS, OF COURSE NOT.
REASON FOR ANY OF THIS, OF COURSE NOT.
BUT WE COMPLICATED GENDER COURSE NOT.
BUT WE COMPLICATED GENDER RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT IT MEANS BUT WE COMPLICATED GENDER RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE WOMAN VERSUS A MAN.
RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE WOMAN VERSUS A MAN.
THAT MAY REQUIRE DEEPER TO BE WOMAN VERSUS A MAN.
THAT MAY REQUIRE DEEPER CONVERSATION.
THAT MAY REQUIRE DEEPER CONVERSATION.
>> IT R YOU KNOW I ALSO THINK CONVERSATION.
>> IT R YOU KNOW I ALSO THINK WHEN YOU LOOK WHAT JACKSON KATZ >> IT R YOU KNOW I ALSO THINK WHEN YOU LOOK WHAT JACKSON KATZ IS TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN WHEN YOU LOOK WHAT JACKSON KATZ IS TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF MASCULINITY, IT IS TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF MASCULINITY, IT IS NOT SORT OF LIMITED TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF MASCULINITY, IT IS NOT SORT OF LIMITED TO OUR CURRENT SORT OF IMAGES OF IT, IS NOT SORT OF LIMITED TO OUR CURRENT SORT OF IMAGES OF IT, WHICH IS EITHER SORT OF CURRENT SORT OF IMAGES OF IT, WHICH IS EITHER SORT OF VIGILANTE JUSTICE AS BOOING A WHICH IS EITHER SORT OF VIGILANTE JUSTICE AS BOOING A NOTION OF COURAGE OR SORT OF VIGILANTE JUSTICE AS BOOING A NOTION OF COURAGE OR SORT OF ADOLESCENT INCOMPETENCE.
NOTION OF COURAGE OR SORT OF ADOLESCENT INCOMPETENCE.
WHERE A MAN CAN'T FIND THE COLD ADOLESCENT INCOMPETENCE.
WHERE A MAN CAN'T FIND THE COLD MEDICINE AND HE SORT OF SHAMED WHERE A MAN CAN'T FIND THE COLD MEDICINE AND HE SORT OF SHAMED BY THE WOMAN IN THE COMMERCIAL.
MEDICINE AND HE SORT OF SHAMED BY THE WOMAN IN THE COMMERCIAL.
IT IS STUNNING TO ME THE BY THE WOMAN IN THE COMMERCIAL.
IT IS STUNNING TO ME THE CULTURAL PRESENTATION OF BOTH IT IS STUNNING TO ME THE CULTURAL PRESENTATION OF BOTH MEN AND WOMEN.
CULTURAL PRESENTATION OF BOTH MEN AND WOMEN.
I DO THINK AS WOMEN WE HAVE DONE MEN AND WOMEN.
I DO THINK AS WOMEN WE HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB TO DISCUSS HOW I DO THINK AS WOMEN WE HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE PORTRAYED.
AN AMAZING JOB TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE PORTRAYED.
I DO THINK MEN TO A CONCERN WE'RE PORTRAYED.
I DO THINK MEN TO A CONCERN DEGREE HAVE IGNORED IT OR LEFT I DO THINK MEN TO A CONCERN DEGREE HAVE IGNORED IT OR LEFT IT OUT OF THE BOOK.
DEGREE HAVE IGNORED IT OR LEFT IT OUT OF THE BOOK.
>> YOU CAN SAY THAT, AND YOU CAN IT OUT OF THE BOOK.
>> YOU CAN SAY THAT, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY SAY THAT ON A MASS >> YOU CAN SAY THAT, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY SAY THAT ON A MASS SCALE, I CAN'T THINK OF LAST CERTAINLY SAY THAT ON A MASS SCALE, I CAN'T THINK OF LAST NAME RIGHT NOW THERE WAS JOHN SCALE, I CAN'T THINK OF LAST NAME RIGHT NOW THERE WAS JOHN WITH THE -- OUT IN CALIFORNIA, NAME RIGHT NOW THERE WAS JOHN WITH THE -- OUT IN CALIFORNIA, 20 YEARS AGO -- WITH THE -- OUT IN CALIFORNIA, 20 YEARS AGO -- >> ROBERT BLYTHE LET'S GO OUT 20 YEARS AGO -- >> ROBERT BLYTHE LET'S GO OUT AND CAMP TOGETHER AND DO >> ROBERT BLYTHE LET'S GO OUT AND CAMP TOGETHER AND DO CAMPFIRES AND BANG ON BONGO AND CAMP TOGETHER AND DO CAMPFIRES AND BANG ON BONGO DRUMS OR WHATEVER THEY WERE CAMPFIRES AND BANG ON BONGO DRUMS OR WHATEVER THEY WERE DOING OUT IN THE DRUMS.
DRUMS OR WHATEVER THEY WERE DOING OUT IN THE DRUMS.
THERE HAVE BEEN MORE RECENTLY DOING OUT IN THE DRUMS.
THERE HAVE BEEN MORE RECENTLY THINGS LIKE MEN CAN STOP RAPE THERE HAVE BEEN MORE RECENTLY THINGS LIKE MEN CAN STOP RAPE WHICH IS NOW -- WHICH WE PORTRAY THINGS LIKE MEN CAN STOP RAPE WHICH IS NOW -- WHICH WE PORTRAY 20 YEARS AGO ON THIS SHOW NOW -- WHICH IS NOW -- WHICH WE PORTRAY 20 YEARS AGO ON THIS SHOW NOW -- THEN LOCAL ORGANIZATION NOW 20 YEARS AGO ON THIS SHOW NOW -- THEN LOCAL ORGANIZATION NOW NATIONAL GETTING MEN TOGETHER, THEN LOCAL ORGANIZATION NOW NATIONAL GETTING MEN TOGETHER, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THERE HAS NATIONAL GETTING MEN TOGETHER, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO CONVERSATION ABOUT MEN YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO CONVERSATION ABOUT MEN DURING THIS LAST WAVE OF BEEN NO CONVERSATION ABOUT MEN DURING THIS LAST WAVE OF FEMINISM.
DURING THIS LAST WAVE OF FEMINISM.
:HAS CERTAINLY FOCUSED MORE ON FEMINISM.
:HAS CERTAINLY FOCUSED MORE ON WOMEN BUT NOT LEFT MEN OUT.
:HAS CERTAINLY FOCUSED MORE ON WOMEN BUT NOT LEFT MEN OUT.
>> IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT THE WOMEN BUT NOT LEFT MEN OUT.
>> IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TAKING THE >> IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TAKING THE LEAD ON, THAT YOU MENTIONED RAPE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TAKING THE LEAD ON, THAT YOU MENTIONED RAPE SPECIFICALLY, THE WHITE HOUSE LEAD ON, THAT YOU MENTIONED RAPE SPECIFICALLY, THE WHITE HOUSE RECENTLY HAD SEVERAL EVENTS FAR SPECIFICALLY, THE WHITE HOUSE RECENTLY HAD SEVERAL EVENTS FAR VICE PRESIDENT JILL BIDEN SPOKE RECENTLY HAD SEVERAL EVENTS FAR VICE PRESIDENT JILL BIDEN SPOKE OUT.
VICE PRESIDENT JILL BIDEN SPOKE OUT.
HE LED OFF THAT CONVERSATION BY OUT.
HE LED OFF THAT CONVERSATION BY SAYING, WHERE I COME FROM IF YOU HE LED OFF THAT CONVERSATION BY SAYING, WHERE I COME FROM IF YOU TOUCHED A WOMAN WE'D BEAT THE SAYING, WHERE I COME FROM IF YOU TOUCHED A WOMAN WE'D BEAT THE CRUD OUT OF I.
TOUCHED A WOMAN WE'D BEAT THE CRUD OUT OF I.
EVEN THEN THE WHITE HOUSE COMING CRUD OUT OF I.
EVEN THEN THE WHITE HOUSE COMING OUT THERE USING VIOLENCE AS THE EVEN THEN THE WHITE HOUSE COMING OUT THERE USING VIOLENCE AS THE ANSWER TO SOMETHING TERRIBLE OUT THERE USING VIOLENCE AS THE ANSWER TO SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAPPENING.
ANSWER TO SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAPPENING.
EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE MAY BE HAPPENING.
EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE MAY BE NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THEY EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE MAY BE NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THEY PORTRAY MEN ENSOCIETY.
NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THEY PORTRAY MEN ENSOCIETY.
>> CAM PIS SEXUAL ASSAULT IS PORTRAY MEN ENSOCIETY.
>> CAM PIS SEXUAL ASSAULT IS EPIDEMIC PROPORTION.
>> CAM PIS SEXUAL ASSAULT IS EPIDEMIC PROPORTION.
>> THE COVER OF "TIME" MAGAZINE EPIDEMIC PROPORTION.
>> THE COVER OF "TIME" MAGAZINE COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS RAPE ON >> THE COVER OF "TIME" MAGAZINE COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS RAPE ON WHAT LOOKED LIKE A COLLEGE COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS RAPE ON WHAT LOOKED LIKE A COLLEGE SPORTS EMBLEM.
WHAT LOOKED LIKE A COLLEGE SPORTS EMBLEM.
>> MISOGYNY KILLS.
SPORTS EMBLEM.
>> MISOGYNY KILLS.
THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT >> MISOGYNY KILLS.
THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT AGAIN PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT AGAIN PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THESE TOPICS.
AGAIN PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THESE TOPICS.
HAVE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN HAVE A WITH THESE TOPICS.
HAVE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN HAVE A DIALOGUE AND COMMUNICATE WE'RE HAVE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN HAVE A DIALOGUE AND COMMUNICATE WE'RE ONCE AGAIN WAIT FOR NEXT QUOTE, DIALOGUE AND COMMUNICATE WE'RE ONCE AGAIN WAIT FOR NEXT QUOTE, UNQUOTE, RAMPAGE OR MASS ONCE AGAIN WAIT FOR NEXT QUOTE, UNQUOTE, RAMPAGE OR MASS SHOOTING GO BACK TO THE USUAL UNQUOTE, RAMPAGE OR MASS SHOOTING GO BACK TO THE USUAL CONVERSATION.
SHOOTING GO BACK TO THE USUAL CONVERSATION.
>> I REALLY DO THINK WE NEED TO CONVERSATION.
>> I REALLY DO THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO EXTRAPOLATE >> I REALLY DO THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO EXTRAPOLATE TOO MUCH FROM AN INCIDENT LIKE BE CAREFUL NOT TO EXTRAPOLATE TOO MUCH FROM AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS.
TOO MUCH FROM AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS.
THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN OF SOCIAL THIS.
THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN OF SOCIAL MOVEMENT, YES ALL WOMEN, I FOUND THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN OF SOCIAL MOVEMENT, YES ALL WOMEN, I FOUND THIS RATHER REPULSIVE.
MOVEMENT, YES ALL WOMEN, I FOUND THIS RATHER REPULSIVE.
WE WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS THIS RATHER REPULSIVE.
WE WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS IDEA THAT DISCRIMINATION IS WE WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS IDEA THAT DISCRIMINATION IS RAMPANT, THAT VIOLENCE AGAINST IDEA THAT DISCRIMINATION IS RAMPANT, THAT VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS RAMPANT.
RAMPANT, THAT VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS RAMPANT.
THAT AMERICA IS INHERENTLY WOMEN IS RAMPANT.
THAT AMERICA IS INHERENTLY UNFAIR AND SEXIST TOWARDS WOMEN THAT AMERICA IS INHERENTLY UNFAIR AND SEXIST TOWARDS WOMEN THAT GOING OUT FOR A JOG OR UNFAIR AND SEXIST TOWARDS WOMEN THAT GOING OUT FOR A JOG OR GOING ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IS THAT GOING OUT FOR A JOG OR GOING ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IS INHERENT DANGEROUS.
GOING ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IS INHERENT DANGEROUS.
THIS IS VERY DISTURBING INHERENT DANGEROUS.
THIS IS VERY DISTURBING NARRATIVE THAT WE SHOULD BE THIS IS VERY DISTURBING NARRATIVE THAT WE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO BE REIGNING IN.
NARRATIVE THAT WE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO BE REIGNING IN.
WANT TO HAVE HONEST CONVERSATION CAUTIOUS TO BE REIGNING IN.
WANT TO HAVE HONEST CONVERSATION WE NEED TO RATCHET BACK.
WANT TO HAVE HONEST CONVERSATION WE NEED TO RATCHET BACK.
>> THESE WOMEN AS VICTIM.
WE NEED TO RATCHET BACK.
>> THESE WOMEN AS VICTIM.
>> HOW ABOUT HELP.
>> THESE WOMEN AS VICTIM.
>> HOW ABOUT HELP.
>> EXACTLY.
>> HOW ABOUT HELP.
>> EXACTLY.
DO WE WANT TO HELP WOMEN MAKE >> EXACTLY.
DO WE WANT TO HELP WOMEN MAKE BETTER CHOICES, DO WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO HELP WOMEN MAKE BETTER CHOICES, DO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MEN ARE MAKING BETTER CHOICES, DO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MEN ARE MAKING BETTER CHOICES THAT'S HAVE A MAKE SURE THAT MEN ARE MAKING BETTER CHOICES THAT'S HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION NOT MAKE THIS BETTER CHOICES THAT'S HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION NOT MAKE THIS JUST ABOUT SOCIAL MOVEMENT.
REAL CONVERSATION NOT MAKE THIS JUST ABOUT SOCIAL MOVEMENT.
>> GIVE ME MORE -- JUST ABOUT SOCIAL MOVEMENT.
>> GIVE ME MORE -- >> TALK ABOUT WOMEN AND VIOLENCE >> GIVE ME MORE -- >> TALK ABOUT WOMEN AND VIOLENCE ON CAMPUSES THESE NUMBERS HAVE >> TALK ABOUT WOMEN AND VIOLENCE ON CAMPUSES THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN GROSSLY OVERSTATED TO START ON CAMPUSES THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN GROSSLY OVERSTATED TO START WITH.
BEEN GROSSLY OVERSTATED TO START WITH.
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT HOW DO WE WITH.
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WOMEN ARE SAFER WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WOMEN ARE SAFER ON CAMPUSES, ARE THEY MAKING MAKE SURE THAT WOMEN ARE SAFER ON CAMPUSES, ARE THEY MAKING GOOD CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES.
ON CAMPUSES, ARE THEY MAKING GOOD CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES.
THAT'S NOT TO EXCUSE ANY KIND OF GOOD CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES.
THAT'S NOT TO EXCUSE ANY KIND OF ASSAULT THAT SOMEONE DOES TO A THAT'S NOT TO EXCUSE ANY KIND OF ASSAULT THAT SOMEONE DOES TO A BECOME BUT ARE THEY MAKING GOOD ASSAULT THAT SOMEONE DOES TO A BECOME BUT ARE THEY MAKING GOOD CHOICES, ARE THEY DRINKING TOO BECOME BUT ARE THEY MAKING GOOD CHOICES, ARE THEY DRINKING TOO MUCH, PUTTING THEMSELVES IN CHOICES, ARE THEY DRINKING TOO MUCH, PUTTING THEMSELVES IN SITUATIONS THAT MAYBE SHOW MUCH, PUTTING THEMSELVES IN SITUATIONS THAT MAYBE SHOW SHOULDN'T PUT THEMSELVES.
SITUATIONS THAT MAYBE SHOW SHOULDN'T PUT THEMSELVES.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOMEN HAVE SHOULDN'T PUT THEMSELVES.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOMEN HAVE CONTROL OVER AND FEEL EMPOWERED THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOMEN HAVE CONTROL OVER AND FEEL EMPOWERED BY.
CONTROL OVER AND FEEL EMPOWERED BY.
>> BUT YOU RAISED THIS ISSUE OF BY.
>> BUT YOU RAISED THIS ISSUE OF POWER.
>> BUT YOU RAISED THIS ISSUE OF POWER.
I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY POWER.
I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS ENDS UP BECOMING ABOUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS ENDS UP BECOMING ABOUT POWER.
THIS ENDS UP BECOMING ABOUT POWER.
THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS POWER.
THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS ABOUT POWER.
THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS ABOUT POWER.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT POWER.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT YOUNG AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT YOUNG WOMEN OFTEN DON'T FEEL THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT YOUNG WOMEN OFTEN DON'T FEEL EMPOWERED.
WOMEN OFTEN DON'T FEEL EMPOWERED.
IT IS NOT SURPRISING TO ME THAT EMPOWERED.
IT IS NOT SURPRISING TO ME THAT THEN IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS IT IS NOT SURPRISING TO ME THAT THEN IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS THERE'S NOT ALWAYS, IF YOU WILLA THEN IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS THERE'S NOT ALWAYS, IF YOU WILLA GOOD CHOICE TO MAKE.
THERE'S NOT ALWAYS, IF YOU WILLA GOOD CHOICE TO MAKE.
BUT THE IDEA THAT THAT WOMAN IS GOOD CHOICE TO MAKE.
BUT THE IDEA THAT THAT WOMAN IS THEN IS A PROBLEM NOT BUT THE IDEA THAT THAT WOMAN IS THEN IS A PROBLEM NOT APPROPRIATE.
THEN IS A PROBLEM NOT APPROPRIATE.
>> I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A APPROPRIATE.
>> I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION WE'RE GOING TO DO IT >> I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION WE'RE GOING TO DO IT TODAY, BUT HOW DO YOU GET TO MEN SOLUTION WE'RE GOING TO DO IT TODAY, BUT HOW DO YOU GET TO MEN LIKE THIS GUY, IS IT EVEN TODAY, BUT HOW DO YOU GET TO MEN LIKE THIS GUY, IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO GET ANY OF THESE LIKE THIS GUY, IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO GET ANY OF THESE SHOOTERS BEFOREHAND TO TALK TO POSSIBLE TO GET ANY OF THESE SHOOTERS BEFOREHAND TO TALK TO THEM MORE ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS, SHOOTERS BEFOREHAND TO TALK TO THEM MORE ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS, I GUESS AS MEN AS JACKSON XATZ THEM MORE ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS, I GUESS AS MEN AS JACKSON XATZ WOULD HAVE US DO, WOULD THAT I GUESS AS MEN AS JACKSON XATZ WOULD HAVE US DO, WOULD THAT HELP, WOULD THAT PREVENT THESE WOULD HAVE US DO, WOULD THAT HELP, WOULD THAT PREVENT THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS IS IT GIVEN HELP, WOULD THAT PREVENT THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS IS IT GIVEN THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS AND THE KIND OF SITUATIONS IS IT GIVEN THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS AND THE PREVALENCE QUITE FRANKLY OF THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS AND THE PREVALENCE QUITE FRANKLY OF MENTAL ILLNESS THAT TURNS IN TO PREVALENCE QUITE FRANKLY OF MENTAL ILLNESS THAT TURNS IN TO VIOLENCE BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO MENTAL ILLNESS THAT TURNS IN TO VIOLENCE BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO MUCH MORE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT VIOLENCE BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO MUCH MORE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT DOESN'T BECOME VIOLENCE.
MUCH MORE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT DOESN'T BECOME VIOLENCE.
BUT THE ABILITY OF MENTALLY ILL DOESN'T BECOME VIOLENCE.
BUT THE ABILITY OF MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE TO ACT ON VIOLENT URGES BUT THE ABILITY OF MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE TO ACT ON VIOLENT URGES SEEMS TO BE -- AND HARM OTHER PEOPLE TO ACT ON VIOLENT URGES SEEMS TO BE -- AND HARM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS, SEEMS TO SEEMS TO BE -- AND HARM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS, SEEMS TO BE GREATER THAN AT ANY TIME IN PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS, SEEMS TO BE GREATER THAN AT ANY TIME IN OUR HISTORY.
BE GREATER THAN AT ANY TIME IN OUR HISTORY.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THIS.
OUR HISTORY.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THIS.
MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE ARMED IN >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THIS.
MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE ARMED IN THIS SOCIETY ARE MENTALLY ILL MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE ARMED IN THIS SOCIETY ARE MENTALLY ILL AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE THIS SOCIETY ARE MENTALLY ILL AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE OFTEN PREYED UPON AND HURT.
AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE OFTEN PREYED UPON AND HURT.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS OFTEN PREYED UPON AND HURT.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE A WELL.
I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION WHERE IT'S I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION WHERE IT'S NOT JUST WOMEN TALKING ABOUT, BROADER CONVERSATION WHERE IT'S NOT JUST WOMEN TALKING ABOUT, HERE ARE ALL THE STEPS WE NEED NOT JUST WOMEN TALKING ABOUT, HERE ARE ALL THE STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE.
HERE ARE ALL THE STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE.
MEN NEED TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS TO TAKE.
MEN NEED TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS CONVERSATION AND IT'S IMPORTANT MEN NEED TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS CONVERSATION AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT MEN WE AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT CONVERSATION AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT MEN WE AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A MAN.
THAT MEN WE AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A MAN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE TOUGH AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A MAN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE TOUGH AND CARRY AROUND A BIG STICK AND BE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE TOUGH AND CARRY AROUND A BIG STICK AND BE VIOLENT TO BE A MAN IN SOCIETY.
CARRY AROUND A BIG STICK AND BE VIOLENT TO BE A MAN IN SOCIETY.
I REMEMBER WHEN I HAD EIGHT VIOLENT TO BE A MAN IN SOCIETY.
I REMEMBER WHEN I HAD EIGHT BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND MY I REMEMBER WHEN I HAD EIGHT BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND MY PARENTS, MY MOTHER AND FATHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND MY PARENTS, MY MOTHER AND FATHER NOT ONLY TREAT US ALL THE SAME PARENTS, MY MOTHER AND FATHER NOT ONLY TREAT US ALL THE SAME BUT THEY GAVE YOU WILL US ALL NOT ONLY TREAT US ALL THE SAME BUT THEY GAVE YOU WILL US ALL THE SAME ADVICE IN HOW WE BUT THEY GAVE YOU WILL US ALL THE SAME ADVICE IN HOW WE PRESENTED OURSELVES.
THE SAME ADVICE IN HOW WE PRESENTED OURSELVES.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PRESENTED OURSELVES.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CONVERSATION.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CONVERSATION.
WE PUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE RUG CONVERSATION.
WE PUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE RUG THEN SUSPECT ONE DAY IF SOMEBODY WE PUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE RUG THEN SUSPECT ONE DAY IF SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING BAD, WE ARE NO THEN SUSPECT ONE DAY IF SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING BAD, WE ARE NO LONGER TEACHING OUR KIDS HOW TO DOES SOMETHING BAD, WE ARE NO LONGER TEACHING OUR KIDS HOW TO BE GOOD PEOPLE.
LONGER TEACHING OUR KIDS HOW TO BE GOOD PEOPLE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
BE GOOD PEOPLE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE OUT OF TIME ON THIS ONE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE OUT OF TIME ON THIS ONE.
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ARIANNA HUFFINGTON BUILT A MEDIA EMPIRE, BUT SHE SAYS IF SHE ARIANNA HUFFINGTON BUILT A MEDIA EMPIRE, BUT SHE SAYS IF SHE HADN'T STRESSED SO MUCH, SHE EMPIRE, BUT SHE SAYS IF SHE HADN'T STRESSED SO MUCH, SHE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER.
HADN'T STRESSED SO MUCH, SHE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER.
IN HER NEW BOOK, "THRIVE" SHE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER.
IN HER NEW BOOK, "THRIVE" SHE SUGGESTS WE SHOULD ALL EXAMINE IN HER NEW BOOK, "THRIVE" SHE SUGGESTS WE SHOULD ALL EXAMINE HOW WE DEFINE SUCCESS.
SUGGESTS WE SHOULD ALL EXAMINE HOW WE DEFINE SUCCESS.
ARIANNA HUFFINGTON SAYS HER HOW WE DEFINE SUCCESS.
ARIANNA HUFFINGTON SAYS HER EPIPHANY WAS A RUDE AWAKENING - ARIANNA HUFFINGTON SAYS HER EPIPHANY WAS A RUDE AWAKENING - LITERALLY.
EPIPHANY WAS A RUDE AWAKENING - LITERALLY.
>> SEVEN YEARS AGO I COLLAPSED LITERALLY.
>> SEVEN YEARS AGO I COLLAPSED FROM BURN OUT, >> SEVEN YEARS AGO I COLLAPSED FROM BURN OUT, SLEEP DEPRIVATION, EXHAUSTION, FROM BURN OUT, SLEEP DEPRIVATION, EXHAUSTION, AND ON THE WAY DOWN I HIT MY SLEEP DEPRIVATION, EXHAUSTION, AND ON THE WAY DOWN I HIT MY HEAD ON MY DESK, BROKE MY AND ON THE WAY DOWN I HIT MY HEAD ON MY DESK, BROKE MY CHEEKBONE, GOT FOUR STITCHES ON HEAD ON MY DESK, BROKE MY CHEEKBONE, GOT FOUR STITCHES ON MY RIGHT EYE, AND IT STARTED ME CHEEKBONE, GOT FOUR STITCHES ON MY RIGHT EYE, AND IT STARTED ME AS I CAME TO IN MY OWN POOL OF MY RIGHT EYE, AND IT STARTED ME AS I CAME TO IN MY OWN POOL OF BLOOD, TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS AS I CAME TO IN MY OWN POOL OF BLOOD, TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE STOP ASKING AFTER WE BLOOD, TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE STOP ASKING AFTER WE LEAVE COLLEGE UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WE STOP ASKING AFTER WE LEAVE COLLEGE UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE "WHAT IS A GOOD LIFE?
LEAVE COLLEGE UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE "WHAT IS A GOOD LIFE?
WHAT IS SUCCESS?"
LIKE "WHAT IS A GOOD LIFE?
WHAT IS SUCCESS?"
>> HER BOOK, "THRIVE", ATTEMPTS WHAT IS SUCCESS?"
>> HER BOOK, "THRIVE", ATTEMPTS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
>> HER BOOK, "THRIVE", ATTEMPTS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
THE FOUNDER OF THE "HUFFINGTON TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
THE FOUNDER OF THE "HUFFINGTON POST" EXAMINED HOW SOCIETY THE FOUNDER OF THE "HUFFINGTON POST" EXAMINED HOW SOCIETY DEFINES SUCCESS.
POST" EXAMINED HOW SOCIETY DEFINES SUCCESS.
>> IT'S REALLY JUST TWO METRICS DEFINES SUCCESS.
>> IT'S REALLY JUST TWO METRICS THAT WE DEFINE SUCCESS BY - >> IT'S REALLY JUST TWO METRICS THAT WE DEFINE SUCCESS BY - MONEY AND POWER - THIS IS LIKE THAT WE DEFINE SUCCESS BY - MONEY AND POWER - THIS IS LIKE TRYING TO SIT ON A TWO-LEGGED MONEY AND POWER - THIS IS LIKE TRYING TO SIT ON A TWO-LEGGED STOOL.
TRYING TO SIT ON A TWO-LEGGED STOOL.
SOONER OR LATER YOU FALL OFF.
STOOL.
SOONER OR LATER YOU FALL OFF.
THAT IS WHY I CAME UP WITH THIS SOONER OR LATER YOU FALL OFF.
THAT IS WHY I CAME UP WITH THIS THIRD METRIC OF SUCCESS - THAT THAT IS WHY I CAME UP WITH THIS THIRD METRIC OF SUCCESS - THAT INCLUDES WELL BEING, WISDOM, THIRD METRIC OF SUCCESS - THAT INCLUDES WELL BEING, WISDOM, WONDER, AND GIVING.
INCLUDES WELL BEING, WISDOM, WONDER, AND GIVING.
>> NOW, THE "HUFFINGTON POST" WONDER, AND GIVING.
>> NOW, THE "HUFFINGTON POST" DEDICATES A LARGE SECTION TO >> NOW, THE "HUFFINGTON POST" DEDICATES A LARGE SECTION TO "THE THIRD METRIC."
DEDICATES A LARGE SECTION TO "THE THIRD METRIC."
BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE SITE THAT "THE THIRD METRIC."
BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE SITE THAT CHANGED.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE SITE THAT CHANGED.
THE HEADQUARTERS HAVE TOO.
CHANGED.
THE HEADQUARTERS HAVE TOO.
>> WOULD R WE MOVED TO NEW THE HEADQUARTERS HAVE TOO.
>> WOULD R WE MOVED TO NEW OFFICES WE HAVE >> WOULD R WE MOVED TO NEW OFFICES WE HAVE DEDICATED NAP ROOMS, YOGA ROOMS, OFFICES WE HAVE DEDICATED NAP ROOMS, YOGA ROOMS, MEDITATION ROOMS, IN NEW YORK WE DEDICATED NAP ROOMS, YOGA ROOMS, MEDITATION ROOMS, IN NEW YORK WE HAVE TWO DEDICATED NAP ROOMS, MEDITATION ROOMS, IN NEW YORK WE HAVE TWO DEDICATED NAP ROOMS, MEDITATION, YOGA, AND BREATHING HAVE TWO DEDICATED NAP ROOMS, MEDITATION, YOGA, AND BREATHING CLASSES, HEALTHY SNACKS MEDITATION, YOGA, AND BREATHING CLASSES, HEALTHY SNACKS EVERYWHERE, AND AN EMAIL POLICY CLASSES, HEALTHY SNACKS EVERYWHERE, AND AN EMAIL POLICY WHICH MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WHEN EVERYWHERE, AND AN EMAIL POLICY WHICH MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WHEN YOU'RE OFF WORK YOU'RE NOT WHICH MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WHEN YOU'RE OFF WORK YOU'RE NOT EXPECTED TO BE ON EMAIL.
YOU'RE OFF WORK YOU'RE NOT EXPECTED TO BE ON EMAIL.
>> YET SHE SAYS, THIS ADDED REST EXPECTED TO BE ON EMAIL.
>> YET SHE SAYS, THIS ADDED REST WON'T RESULT IN REDUCED >> YET SHE SAYS, THIS ADDED REST WON'T RESULT IN REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY.
WON'T RESULT IN REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY.
>> I'M NOT ADVOCATING AT ANY PRODUCTIVITY.
>> I'M NOT ADVOCATING AT ANY POINT IN THE BOOK NOT WORKING >> I'M NOT ADVOCATING AT ANY POINT IN THE BOOK NOT WORKING HARD, OR NOT HAVING BIG DREAMS, POINT IN THE BOOK NOT WORKING HARD, OR NOT HAVING BIG DREAMS, OR NOT ACCOMPLISHING, I'M JUST HARD, OR NOT HAVING BIG DREAMS, OR NOT ACCOMPLISHING, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S ANOTHER WAY, OR NOT ACCOMPLISHING, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S ANOTHER WAY, THERE'S ANOTHER PATH FORWARD, SAYING THERE'S ANOTHER WAY, THERE'S ANOTHER PATH FORWARD, AND IT'S A MUCH WISER WAY.
THERE'S ANOTHER PATH FORWARD, AND IT'S A MUCH WISER WAY.
>> IN FACT, SHE INSISTS, LEADERS AND IT'S A MUCH WISER WAY.
>> IN FACT, SHE INSISTS, LEADERS WILL DO A BETTER JOB IF THEY ARE >> IN FACT, SHE INSISTS, LEADERS WILL DO A BETTER JOB IF THEY ARE LESS TIRED.
WILL DO A BETTER JOB IF THEY ARE LESS TIRED.
>> PRESIDENT CLINTON HIMSELF LESS TIRED.
>> PRESIDENT CLINTON HIMSELF SAYS "THE MOST IMPORTANT >> PRESIDENT CLINTON HIMSELF SAYS "THE MOST IMPORTANT MISTAKES I MADE, I MADE WHEN I SAYS "THE MOST IMPORTANT MISTAKES I MADE, I MADE WHEN I WAS TIRED."
MISTAKES I MADE, I MADE WHEN I WAS TIRED."
STEVE JOBS SAID HIS BEST IDEAS WAS TIRED."
STEVE JOBS SAID HIS BEST IDEAS CAME AFTER ZEN MEDICATION, BILL STEVE JOBS SAID HIS BEST IDEAS CAME AFTER ZEN MEDICATION, BILL GATES, WHO FAMOUSLY TOOK THINK CAME AFTER ZEN MEDICATION, BILL GATES, WHO FAMOUSLY TOOK THINK WEEKS, AWAY FROM EVERYTHING AND GATES, WHO FAMOUSLY TOOK THINK WEEKS, AWAY FROM EVERYTHING AND ALL HIS DEVICES, OUT IN A CABIN.
WEEKS, AWAY FROM EVERYTHING AND ALL HIS DEVICES, OUT IN A CABIN.
ONE OF THE STEPS I RECOMMEND IS ALL HIS DEVICES, OUT IN A CABIN.
ONE OF THE STEPS I RECOMMEND IS LEARNING TO DISCONNECT FROM OUR ONE OF THE STEPS I RECOMMEND IS LEARNING TO DISCONNECT FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY.
LEARNING TO DISCONNECT FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY.
NOT CHARGING OUR SMARTPHONES BY TECHNOLOGY.
NOT CHARGING OUR SMARTPHONES BY OUR BED, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN NOT CHARGING OUR SMARTPHONES BY OUR BED, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN BEING TEMPTED TO LOOK AT OUR OUR BED, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN BEING TEMPTED TO LOOK AT OUR DATA WHEN WE WAKE UP.
BEING TEMPTED TO LOOK AT OUR DATA WHEN WE WAKE UP.
>> HUFFINGTON CITES RESEARCH DATA WHEN WE WAKE UP.
>> HUFFINGTON CITES RESEARCH SUPPORTING THE NEED FOR PERSONAL >> HUFFINGTON CITES RESEARCH SUPPORTING THE NEED FOR PERSONAL RENEWAL BUT SHE ALSO USES HER SUPPORTING THE NEED FOR PERSONAL RENEWAL BUT SHE ALSO USES HER OWN EXPERIENCES TO MAKE HER RENEWAL BUT SHE ALSO USES HER OWN EXPERIENCES TO MAKE HER POINT.
OWN EXPERIENCES TO MAKE HER POINT.
>> I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WOULD POINT.
>> I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE I >> I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED EVERYTHING WITH KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED EVERYTHING WITH LESS WORRY, LESS ANXIETY, LESS HAVE ACHIEVED EVERYTHING WITH LESS WORRY, LESS ANXIETY, LESS DAMAGE TO MY HEALTH AND MY LESS WORRY, LESS ANXIETY, LESS DAMAGE TO MY HEALTH AND MY RELATIONSHIPS.
DAMAGE TO MY HEALTH AND MY RELATIONSHIPS.
THE BIGGEST GROWTH OF THE RELATIONSHIPS.
THE BIGGEST GROWTH OF THE "HUFFINGTON POST" HAS HAPPENED THE BIGGEST GROWTH OF THE "HUFFINGTON POST" HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS WHERE "HUFFINGTON POST" HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS WHERE I HAVE BEEN GETTING MORE SLEEP OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS WHERE I HAVE BEEN GETTING MORE SLEEP AND MEDITATING.
I HAVE BEEN GETTING MORE SLEEP AND MEDITATING.
AND DOING OTHER THINGS I AND MEDITATING.
AND DOING OTHER THINGS I PRACTICE.
AND DOING OTHER THINGS I PRACTICE.
>> THIS ADVICE WOULD EVEN ARE PRACTICE.
>> THIS ADVICE WOULD EVEN ARE MORE IMPORTANT FOR WOMEN.
>> THIS ADVICE WOULD EVEN ARE MORE IMPORTANT FOR WOMEN.
>> WOMEN INTERNALIZE STRESS MORE IMPORTANT FOR WOMEN.
>> WOMEN INTERNALIZE STRESS DIFFERENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE >> WOMEN INTERNALIZE STRESS DIFFERENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE DATA, AND AS A RESULT WE PAY A DIFFERENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE DATA, AND AS A RESULT WE PAY A HIGHER PRICE FOR STRESS.
DATA, AND AS A RESULT WE PAY A HIGHER PRICE FOR STRESS.
WOMEN IN STRESSFUL JOBS WHICH HIGHER PRICE FOR STRESS.
WOMEN IN STRESSFUL JOBS WHICH INCLUDES YOURS AND MINE, HAVE A WOMEN IN STRESSFUL JOBS WHICH INCLUDES YOURS AND MINE, HAVE A 40% GREATER RISK OF HEART INCLUDES YOURS AND MINE, HAVE A 40% GREATER RISK OF HEART DISEASE AND A 60% GREATER RISK 40% GREATER RISK OF HEART DISEASE AND A 60% GREATER RISK OF DIABETES.
DISEASE AND A 60% GREATER RISK OF DIABETES.
>> IN HER BOOK, SHE WRITES STEPS OF DIABETES.
>> IN HER BOOK, SHE WRITES STEPS ONE CAN TAKE TO "THRIVE".
>> IN HER BOOK, SHE WRITES STEPS ONE CAN TAKE TO "THRIVE".
BUT SHE SAYS IT'S DIFFICULT TO ONE CAN TAKE TO "THRIVE".
BUT SHE SAYS IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO SO BECAUSE WE ARE "ADDICTED" BUT SHE SAYS IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO SO BECAUSE WE ARE "ADDICTED" TO OUR OLD WAYS.
DO SO BECAUSE WE ARE "ADDICTED" TO OUR OLD WAYS.
>> I'M BY NO MEANS DOING THIS TO OUR OLD WAYS.
>> I'M BY NO MEANS DOING THIS PERFECTLY, BUT WHEN WE BECOME >> I'M BY NO MEANS DOING THIS PERFECTLY, BUT WHEN WE BECOME AWARE OF HOW WE'RE FEELING AND PERFECTLY, BUT WHEN WE BECOME AWARE OF HOW WE'RE FEELING AND HOW WE'RE DOING THEN IT'S MUCH AWARE OF HOW WE'RE FEELING AND HOW WE'RE DOING THEN IT'S MUCH EASIER TO COURSE CORRECT.
HOW WE'RE DOING THEN IT'S MUCH EASIER TO COURSE CORRECT.
WHAT WE NEED IS MORE ROLE MODELS EASIER TO COURSE CORRECT.
WHAT WE NEED IS MORE ROLE MODELS WHO DO SUCCESS DIFFERENTLY SO WE WHAT WE NEED IS MORE ROLE MODELS WHO DO SUCCESS DIFFERENTLY SO WE DON'T REMAIN UNDER THE WHO DO SUCCESS DIFFERENTLY SO WE DON'T REMAIN UNDER THE COLLECTIVE DELUSION IS THAT THE DON'T REMAIN UNDER THE COLLECTIVE DELUSION IS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO BE A LEADER IS TO COLLECTIVE DELUSION IS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO BE A LEADER IS TO >> YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.
ONLY WAY TO BE A LEADER IS TO >> YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.
>> SHE MAKES SOME REALLY GOOD >> YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.
>> SHE MAKES SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS IN THE BOOK THAT EVEN IF >> SHE MAKES SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS IN THE BOOK THAT EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FREE POINTS IN THE BOOK THAT EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FREE TIME, YOU WORK AT A JOB THAT'S YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FREE TIME, YOU WORK AT A JOB THAT'S 24-7 JUST TAKING A COUPLE OF TIME, YOU WORK AT A JOB THAT'S 24-7 JUST TAKING A COUPLE OF MINUTES EVERY COUPLE HOURS AND 24-7 JUST TAKING A COUPLE OF MINUTES EVERY COUPLE HOURS AND TO CENTER YOURSELF AND FOCUSING, MINUTES EVERY COUPLE HOURS AND TO CENTER YOURSELF AND FOCUSING, JUST TAKING COUPLE OF MINUTES OF TO CENTER YOURSELF AND FOCUSING, JUST TAKING COUPLE OF MINUTES OF ME TIME WILL MAKE YOU A MUCH JUST TAKING COUPLE OF MINUTES OF ME TIME WILL MAKE YOU A MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE PERSON.
ME TIME WILL MAKE YOU A MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE PERSON.
I'VE BEEN READING THE BOOK.
MORE PRODUCTIVE PERSON.
I'VE BEEN READING THE BOOK.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN READING THE BOOK.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU I'VE BEEN TAKING ALREADY ADVICE, I'VE BEEN I HAVE TO TELL YOU I'VE BEEN TAKING ALREADY ADVICE, I'VE BEEN A LOT MORE PRODUCTIVE AT MY JOB.
TAKING ALREADY ADVICE, I'VE BEEN A LOT MORE PRODUCTIVE AT MY JOB.
>> I'VE BEEN TAKING MY OWN A LOT MORE PRODUCTIVE AT MY JOB.
>> I'VE BEEN TAKING MY OWN ADVICE FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS >> I'VE BEEN TAKING MY OWN ADVICE FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY I JUST -- I CALL ADVICE FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY I JUST -- I CALL EIGHT DONNA DAY.
ESSENTIALLY I JUST -- I CALL EIGHT DONNA DAY.
BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE A DOD I EIGHT DONNA DAY.
BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE A DOD I LEARNED ONLY WAY THE GET OVER IT BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE A DOD I LEARNED ONLY WAY THE GET OVER IT WAS TO HAVE A DONNA DAY THAT'S LEARNED ONLY WAY THE GET OVER IT WAS TO HAVE A DONNA DAY THAT'S DAY WHERE I AM TOTALLY AT PEACE WAS TO HAVE A DONNA DAY THAT'S DAY WHERE I AM TOTALLY AT PEACE WITH MYSELF.
DAY WHERE I AM TOTALLY AT PEACE WITH MYSELF.
NONE OF MY GADGETS ARE ON, I PUT WITH MYSELF.
NONE OF MY GADGETS ARE ON, I PUT ON NICE MUSIC I GO OUT IN MY NONE OF MY GADGETS ARE ON, I PUT ON NICE MUSIC I GO OUT IN MY GARDEN.
ON NICE MUSIC I GO OUT IN MY GARDEN.
I JUST LET IT ALL JUST MELT GARDEN.
I JUST LET IT ALL JUST MELT AWAY.
I JUST LET IT ALL JUST MELT AWAY.
>> LET ME ASK YOU WERE YOU ABLE AWAY.
>> LET ME ASK YOU WERE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT WHEN YOU MANAGED A >> LET ME ASK YOU WERE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT WHEN YOU MANAGED A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN?
TO DO THAT WHEN YOU MANAGED A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN?
>> NO.
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN?
>> NO.
LET ME JUST SAY ONE OF THE >> NO.
LET ME JUST SAY ONE OF THE HARDSHIPS OF MY LIFE EVERY FEW LET ME JUST SAY ONE OF THE HARDSHIPS OF MY LIFE EVERY FEW YEARS SINCE MY TEENS, I TOOK OFF HARDSHIPS OF MY LIFE EVERY FEW YEARS SINCE MY TEENS, I TOOK OFF MY LIFE TO WORK FOR SOMEONE YEARS SINCE MY TEENS, I TOOK OFF MY LIFE TO WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
MY LIFE TO WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
I DEVOTED MY ENTIRE LIFE TO ELSE.
I DEVOTED MY ENTIRE LIFE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS OR THOSE I DEVOTED MY ENTIRE LIFE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS OR THOSE CAMPAIGNS.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS OR THOSE CAMPAIGNS.
THAT IS WHY AS I'VE GOTTEN OLDER CAMPAIGNS.
THAT IS WHY AS I'VE GOTTEN OLDER I RECOGNIZE THAT I HAVE TO THAT IS WHY AS I'VE GOTTEN OLDER I RECOGNIZE THAT I HAVE TO RESTORE MY OWN SOUL BEFORE I CAN I RECOGNIZE THAT I HAVE TO RESTORE MY OWN SOUL BEFORE I CAN SAVE OTHER SOULS.
RESTORE MY OWN SOUL BEFORE I CAN SAVE OTHER SOULS.
>> THIS BROUGHT ME BACK TO MY SAVE OTHER SOULS.
>> THIS BROUGHT ME BACK TO MY FIRST BOSS HERE IN WASHINGTON >> THIS BROUGHT ME BACK TO MY FIRST BOSS HERE IN WASHINGTON AMBASSADOR KIRKPATRICK.
YOU CAN FIRST BOSS HERE IN WASHINGTON AMBASSADOR KIRKPATRICK.
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT JUST NOT AMBASSADOR KIRKPATRICK.
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT JUST NOT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
DO ANYTHING YOU WANT JUST NOT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
THOSE VERY SIMPLE THINGS THAT WE ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
THOSE VERY SIMPLE THINGS THAT WE FORGET WE HAVE TO GO BACK SAY, THOSE VERY SIMPLE THINGS THAT WE FORGET WE HAVE TO GO BACK SAY, WE CAN DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT FORGET WE HAVE TO GO BACK SAY, WE CAN DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, I WOULD LOVE TO BE VIDEO WE CAN DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, I WOULD LOVE TO BE VIDEO GAME UNTEARING AT A HOSPITAL THINGS, I WOULD LOVE TO BE VIDEO GAME UNTEARING AT A HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW DOING MORE FOR GAME UNTEARING AT A HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW DOING MORE FOR COMMUNITY AND CHARITY THAT I RIGHT NOW DOING MORE FOR COMMUNITY AND CHARITY THAT I HAVE THREE LITTLE KIDS, I'M COMMUNITY AND CHARITY THAT I HAVE THREE LITTLE KIDS, I'M INVOLVED WITH THEIR SCHOOL, I HAVE THREE LITTLE KIDS, I'M INVOLVED WITH THEIR SCHOOL, I HAVE JOB.
INVOLVED WITH THEIR SCHOOL, I HAVE JOB.
IT'S LARD HARD TO DO AS MUCH AS HAVE JOB.
IT'S LARD HARD TO DO AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO DO ALL AT THE SAME IT'S LARD HARD TO DO AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO DO ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
WE WANT TO DO ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
>> LET ME JUST BRING IN TIME.
>> LET ME JUST BRING IN SOMETHING THAT I HEARD FROM A >> LET ME JUST BRING IN SOMETHING THAT I HEARD FROM A THEOLOGIAN WHICH I THOUGHT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HEARD FROM A THEOLOGIAN WHICH I THOUGHT WAS FASCINATING SUNDAY IS THEOLOGIAN WHICH I THOUGHT WAS FASCINATING SUNDAY IS CONSIDERED A DAY OF ROAST.
FASCINATING SUNDAY IS CONSIDERED A DAY OF ROAST.
KNOTS JUST BECAUSE WE ARE CONSIDERED A DAY OF ROAST.
KNOTS JUST BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO REST AND UNWIND OR KNOTS JUST BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO REST AND UNWIND OR COMMIT OURSELVES TO GOD.
SUPPOSED TO REST AND UNWIND OR COMMIT OURSELVES TO GOD.
BUT IT IS ACTUALLY A DAY OF REST COMMIT OURSELVES TO GOD.
BUT IT IS ACTUALLY A DAY OF REST BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO REMIND BUT IT IS ACTUALLY A DAY OF REST BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO REMIND US WITH A SENSE OF HUMILITY THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO REMIND US WITH A SENSE OF HUMILITY THAT THE WORLD MOVES ON WITHOUT US.
US WITH A SENSE OF HUMILITY THAT THE WORLD MOVES ON WITHOUT US.
AND I THINK PART OF NEEDING TO THE WORLD MOVES ON WITHOUT US.
AND I THINK PART OF NEEDING TO GET AWAY FROM OUR GADGETS AND AND I THINK PART OF NEEDING TO GET AWAY FROM OUR GADGETS AND GET AWAY FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY IS GET AWAY FROM OUR GADGETS AND GET AWAY FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY ABOUT REMINDING OURSELVES GET AWAY FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY ABOUT REMINDING OURSELVES THAT WE ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS REALLY ABOUT REMINDING OURSELVES THAT WE ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WE LIKE TO CONSTANTLY BELIEVE WE THAT WE ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WE LIKE TO CONSTANTLY BELIEVE WE ARE.
WE LIKE TO CONSTANTLY BELIEVE WE ARE.
>> QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S WHY I ARE.
>> QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S WHY I ENJOY FOREIGN TRAVEL.
>> QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S WHY I ENJOY FOREIGN TRAVEL.
BECAUSE IF YOU EVER WANT TO MAKE ENJOY FOREIGN TRAVEL.
BECAUSE IF YOU EVER WANT TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL LIKE YOU DO NOT BECAUSE IF YOU EVER WANT TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL LIKE YOU DO NOT MATTER IN THIS WORLD, YOU GO TO YOURSELF FEEL LIKE YOU DO NOT MATTER IN THIS WORLD, YOU GO TO INDIA, YOU GO TO CALCUTTA OR ONE MATTER IN THIS WORLD, YOU GO TO INDIA, YOU GO TO CALCUTTA OR ONE OF THE CITIES WITH WHOLE LOT OF INDIA, YOU GO TO CALCUTTA OR ONE OF THE CITIES WITH WHOLE LOT OF POVERTY YOU SEE HOW BAD THAT OF THE CITIES WITH WHOLE LOT OF POVERTY YOU SEE HOW BAD THAT POVERTY IS HOW LITTLE YOU CAN POVERTY YOU SEE HOW BAD THAT POVERTY IS HOW LITTLE YOU CAN HELP, THERE ARE FORCES GRANDER POVERTY IS HOW LITTLE YOU CAN HELP, THERE ARE FORCES GRANDER THAN YOURSELF TO SOLVE THIS HELP, THERE ARE FORCES GRANDER THAN YOURSELF TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
THAN YOURSELF TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
IF THAT DOESN'T PUT ANYBODY IN PROBLEM.
IF THAT DOESN'T PUT ANYBODY IN THEIR PLACE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF THAT DOESN'T PUT ANYBODY IN THEIR PLACE I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES.
THEIR PLACE I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT DOES.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT POVERTY I GREW UP IN POVERTY >> YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT POVERTY I GREW UP IN POVERTY IT'S GOING BACK TO MY POVERTY I GREW UP IN POVERTY IT'S GOING BACK TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I GO BACK I IT'S GOING BACK TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I GO BACK I GET THIS SENSE THAT THERE IS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I GO BACK I GET THIS SENSE THAT THERE IS MORE TO BE DONE.
GET THIS SENSE THAT THERE IS MORE TO BE DONE.
WE WANT TO PAY IT FORWARD THAT'S MORE TO BE DONE.
WE WANT TO PAY IT FORWARD THAT'S ANOTHER POINT THAT ARIANNA TRIED WE WANT TO PAY IT FORWARD THAT'S ANOTHER POINT THAT ARIANNA TRIED TO MAKE IN HER BOOK THAT WE TRY ANOTHER POINT THAT ARIANNA TRIED TO MAKE IN HER BOOK THAT WE TRY TO LEAVE THE WORLD A MUCH BETTER TO MAKE IN HER BOOK THAT WE TRY TO LEAVE THE WORLD A MUCH BETTER PLACE.
TO LEAVE THE WORLD A MUCH BETTER PLACE.
>> SOMETHING THAT REALLY HIT PLACE.
>> SOMETHING THAT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME IN THE BOOK ON THAT >> SOMETHING THAT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME IN THE BOOK ON THAT SUBJECT WAS SHE SAID, IN YOUR HOME FOR ME IN THE BOOK ON THAT SUBJECT WAS SHE SAID, IN YOUR OBITUARY WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE SUBJECT WAS SHE SAID, IN YOUR OBITUARY WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE REMEMBERED FOR.
OBITUARY WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE REMEMBERED FOR.
HAVE, SHE HAD 600 FRIENDS ON REMEMBERED FOR.
HAVE, SHE HAD 600 FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK AND SHE ANSWERED HER HAVE, SHE HAD 600 FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK AND SHE ANSWERED HER E-MAILS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
FACEBOOK AND SHE ANSWERED HER E-MAILS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
AND THAT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME E-MAILS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
AND THAT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME AS A WORKING WOMAN WHO WORKS IN AND THAT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME AS A WORKING WOMAN WHO WORKS IN MEDIA AND POLITICS IS THAT WE AS A WORKING WOMAN WHO WORKS IN MEDIA AND POLITICS IS THAT WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME WORRYING MEDIA AND POLITICS IS THAT WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME WORRYING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT NOT SPEND SO MUCH TIME WORRYING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT NOT ENOUGH TIME WORRYING ABOUT OUR ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT NOT ENOUGH TIME WORRYING ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, CHARITY, POVERTY.
ENOUGH TIME WORRYING ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, CHARITY, POVERTY.
>> PART OF THE PROBLEM I THINK CHILDREN, CHARITY, POVERTY.
>> PART OF THE PROBLEM I THINK HAS BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT >> PART OF THE PROBLEM I THINK HAS BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT WOMEN AND WORK HAS REALLY HAS BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT WOMEN AND WORK HAS REALLY CENTERED ON WOMEN MAKING -- WOMEN AND WORK HAS REALLY CENTERED ON WOMEN MAKING -- BECOMING THE NEUROSURGEON, NOT CENTERED ON WOMEN MAKING -- BECOMING THE NEUROSURGEON, NOT WOMEN CREATING SOME KIND OF BECOMING THE NEUROSURGEON, NOT WOMEN CREATING SOME KIND OF TAPESTRY OF WORK AND LIFE AND WOMEN CREATING SOME KIND OF TAPESTRY OF WORK AND LIFE AND HOME, THAT SUITS THEM AND THEIR TAPESTRY OF WORK AND LIFE AND HOME, THAT SUITS THEM AND THEIR NEEDS I THINK WHEN WE DO THAT WE HOME, THAT SUITS THEM AND THEIR NEEDS I THINK WHEN WE DO THAT WE THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT WHEN NEEDS I THINK WHEN WE DO THAT WE THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT WHEN I'M 90 YEARS OLD WHAT AIM GOING THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT WHEN I'M 90 YEARS OLD WHAT AIM GOING TO CARE ABOUT, PUTS A LOT THAT I'M 90 YEARS OLD WHAT AIM GOING TO CARE ABOUT, PUTS A LOT THAT HAVE IN PERSPECTIVE.
TO CARE ABOUT, PUTS A LOT THAT HAVE IN PERSPECTIVE.
>> TO PUT IT MORE IN TO HAVE IN PERSPECTIVE.
>> TO PUT IT MORE IN TO PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT WE'D >> TO PUT IT MORE IN TO PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT WE'D LIKE TO CELEBRATE THE LIFE OF A PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT WE'D LIKE TO CELEBRATE THE LIFE OF A MAJESTIC WOMAN WE LOST THIS LIKE TO CELEBRATE THE LIFE OF A MAJESTIC WOMAN WE LOST THIS WEEK.
MAJESTIC WOMAN WE LOST THIS WEEK.
POET AND ACTIVIST DR. MAYA WEEK.
POET AND ACTIVIST DR. MAYA ANGELOU DIED THIS WEEK, AFTER A POET AND ACTIVIST DR. MAYA ANGELOU DIED THIS WEEK, AFTER A LIFETIME OF CREATIVE ACHIEVEMENT ANGELOU DIED THIS WEEK, AFTER A LIFETIME OF CREATIVE ACHIEVEMENT AND ADVANCEMENT FOR LIFETIME OF CREATIVE ACHIEVEMENT AND ADVANCEMENT FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND ALL WOMEN.
AND ADVANCEMENT FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND ALL WOMEN.
IN 2010, SHE TALKED TO US ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND ALL WOMEN.
IN 2010, SHE TALKED TO US ABOUT REMEMBERING THE CIVIL RIGHTS IN 2010, SHE TALKED TO US ABOUT REMEMBERING THE CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS WHO CAME BEFORE HER.
REMEMBERING THE CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS WHO CAME BEFORE HER.
TODAY, WE REMEMBER HER LEADERS WHO CAME BEFORE HER.
TODAY, WE REMEMBER HER CONTRIBUTIONS.
TODAY, WE REMEMBER HER CONTRIBUTIONS.
>> WE NEED MORE WOMEN IN EVERY CONTRIBUTIONS.
>> WE NEED MORE WOMEN IN EVERY AREA OF AMERICAN LIFE.
>> WE NEED MORE WOMEN IN EVERY AREA OF AMERICAN LIFE.
BUT WE HAVE TO CONFESS AND ADMIT AREA OF AMERICAN LIFE.
BUT WE HAVE TO CONFESS AND ADMIT THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN WE BUT WE HAVE TO CONFESS AND ADMIT THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN WE DID.
THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN WE DID.
YOU SEE, OTHERWISE YOUNG PEOPLE DID.
YOU SEE, OTHERWISE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL SAY "YOU MEAN TO SAY YOU'VE YOU SEE, OTHERWISE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL SAY "YOU MEAN TO SAY YOU'VE BEEN WORKING THIS LONG AND WILL SAY "YOU MEAN TO SAY YOU'VE BEEN WORKING THIS LONG AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED?"
BEEN WORKING THIS LONG AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED?"
AND THEN THEY GIVE UP.
NOTHING HAS HAPPENED?"
AND THEN THEY GIVE UP.
I THINK IT'S DANGEROUS TO NOT AND THEN THEY GIVE UP.
I THINK IT'S DANGEROUS TO NOT RECOGNIZE PROGRESS, IT'S I THINK IT'S DANGEROUS TO NOT RECOGNIZE PROGRESS, IT'S DANGEROUS.
RECOGNIZE PROGRESS, IT'S DANGEROUS.
IT SAYS TO THOSE WHO WENT BEFORE DANGEROUS.
IT SAYS TO THOSE WHO WENT BEFORE US, WHO PAID FOR US ALREADY, IT SAYS TO THOSE WHO WENT BEFORE US, WHO PAID FOR US ALREADY, WE'RE SAYING, IN EFFECT, "IT US, WHO PAID FOR US ALREADY, WE'RE SAYING, IN EFFECT, "IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE'RE SAYING, IN EFFECT, "IT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE NOT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT."
YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT."
NO, I THINK EVERY AGE HAS ITS SUFFICIENT."
NO, I THINK EVERY AGE HAS ITS OWN CHARGE TO KEEP.
NO, I THINK EVERY AGE HAS ITS OWN CHARGE TO KEEP.
>> I KNEW ALREADY WALL, DONNA, OWN CHARGE TO KEEP.
>> I KNEW ALREADY WALL, DONNA, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> I KNEW ALREADY WALL, DONNA, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
HOW SHOULD SHE BE REMEMBERED AS WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
HOW SHOULD SHE BE REMEMBERED AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED?
HOW SHOULD SHE BE REMEMBERED AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED?
>> AS A PHENOMENAL WOMAN.
FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED?
>> AS A PHENOMENAL WOMAN.
ONCE SAID THAT WE ALL HAVE >> AS A PHENOMENAL WOMAN.
ONCE SAID THAT WE ALL HAVE UNTOLD STORIES THAT SHOULD BE ONCE SAID THAT WE ALL HAVE UNTOLD STORIES THAT SHOULD BE TOLD.
UNTOLD STORIES THAT SHOULD BE TOLD.
A WOMAN WHO EMPOWERED OTHERS TO TOLD.
A WOMAN WHO EMPOWERED OTHERS TO ACT AND TO BE THEMSELVES.
A WOMAN WHO EMPOWERED OTHERS TO ACT AND TO BE THEMSELVES.
SHE WAS A REMARKABLE WOMAN.
ACT AND TO BE THEMSELVES.
SHE WAS A REMARKABLE WOMAN.
I KNOW THERE'S A WONDERFUL PLACE SHE WAS A REMARKABLE WOMAN.
I KNOW THERE'S A WONDERFUL PLACE WHEREVER SHE IS RIGHT NOW WHERE I KNOW THERE'S A WONDERFUL PLACE WHEREVER SHE IS RIGHT NOW WHERE SHE IS JUST DOING STORYTELLING WHEREVER SHE IS RIGHT NOW WHERE SHE IS JUST DOING STORYTELLING AND REUNITED WITH MARTIN LUTHER SHE IS JUST DOING STORYTELLING AND REUNITED WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING AND CORETTA, MALL COUPLE X, AND REUNITED WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING AND CORETTA, MALL COUPLE X, ROSA PARKS, JAMES BALDWIN.
KING AND CORETTA, MALL COUPLE X, ROSA PARKS, JAMES BALDWIN.
I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE STORIES ROSA PARKS, JAMES BALDWIN.
I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE STORIES THEY ARE NOW TALKING BECAUSE I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE STORIES THEY ARE NOW TALKING BECAUSE MAYA IS UP THERE MAKING THEM ALL THEY ARE NOW TALKING BECAUSE MAYA IS UP THERE MAKING THEM ALL LAUGH.
MAYA IS UP THERE MAKING THEM ALL LAUGH.
>> ABILITY I THINK THAT SHE HAD LAUGH.
>> ABILITY I THINK THAT SHE HAD TO MAKE A LIVING DOING >> ABILITY I THINK THAT SHE HAD TO MAKE A LIVING DOING EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE LOVE TO TO MAKE A LIVING DOING EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE LOVE TO DO, DANCING, SINGING, ACTING, EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE LOVE TO DO, DANCING, SINGING, ACTING, WRITING, TEACHING, SHE WAS ABLE DO, DANCING, SINGING, ACTING, WRITING, TEACHING, SHE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT NOT JUST MAKE A WRITING, TEACHING, SHE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT NOT JUST MAKE A LIVING BUT MAKE SUCH A HUMONGOUS TO DO THAT NOT JUST MAKE A LIVING BUT MAKE SUCH A HUMONGOUS IMPACT.
LIVING BUT MAKE SUCH A HUMONGOUS IMPACT.
ARE THERE ANY LESSONS THERE FOR IMPACT.
ARE THERE ANY LESSONS THERE FOR PEOPLE COMING UP NOW?
ARE THERE ANY LESSONS THERE FOR PEOPLE COMING UP NOW?
>> YOU KNOW, SHE DIDN'T CARE PEOPLE COMING UP NOW?
>> YOU KNOW, SHE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S TITLES OR THEIR >> YOU KNOW, SHE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S TITLES OR THEIR WEALTH BUT SHE ENJOYED BRINGING ABOUT PEOPLE'S TITLES OR THEIR WEALTH BUT SHE ENJOYED BRINGING OUT THE GIFT THAT THEY HAD, THAT WEALTH BUT SHE ENJOYED BRINGING OUT THE GIFT THAT THEY HAD, THAT JOY.
OUT THE GIFT THAT THEY HAD, THAT JOY.
THAT MADE HER HAPPY.
JOY.
THAT MADE HER HAPPY.
JUST SEEING OTHER PEOPLE LAUGH.
THAT MADE HER HAPPY.
JUST SEEING OTHER PEOPLE LAUGH.
I THINK IF SHE WAS STILL HERE JUST SEEING OTHER PEOPLE LAUGH.
I THINK IF SHE WAS STILL HERE TODAY TALKING TO US IN THAT I THINK IF SHE WAS STILL HERE TODAY TALKING TO US IN THAT REMARKABLE SOUTHERN VOICE OF TODAY TALKING TO US IN THAT REMARKABLE SOUTHERN VOICE OF HER'S SHE WOULD SAY GO ON, BE REMARKABLE SOUTHERN VOICE OF HER'S SHE WOULD SAY GO ON, BE WHO YOU ARE.
HER'S SHE WOULD SAY GO ON, BE WHO YOU ARE.
THEN JUST APPLAUD YOU.
WHO YOU ARE.
THEN JUST APPLAUD YOU.
>> WE APPLAUD YOU, TOO FOR THE THEN JUST APPLAUD YOU.
>> WE APPLAUD YOU, TOO FOR THE WRECK NECKS.
>> WE APPLAUD YOU, TOO FOR THE WRECK NECKS.
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