>>> COMING UP -- A REPORT OVER >>> COMING UP -- A REPORT OVER THE DEBATE OVER SOLITARY >>> COMING UP -- A REPORT OVER THE DEBATE OVER SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
THE DEBATE OVER SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
IS IT WRONG, NECESSARY OR CONFINEMENT.
IS IT WRONG, NECESSARY OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.
IS IT WRONG, NECESSARY OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.
THE OSCAR-WINNING MOVIE SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.
THE OSCAR-WINNING MOVIE "PHILOMENA" BASED ON AN THE OSCAR-WINNING MOVIE "PHILOMENA" BASED ON AN IRISH-CATHOLIC WOMAN'S SEARCH IRISH-CATHOLIC WOMAN'S SEARCH >>> WELCOME.
>>> WELCOME.
I'M KIM LAWSON SITTING IN FOR >>> WELCOME.
I'M KIM LAWSON SITTING IN FOR BOB ABERNETHY.
I'M KIM LAWSON SITTING IN FOR BOB ABERNETHY.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
BOB ABERNETHY.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
DEBATES 0 OVER GAY RIGHTS THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
DEBATES 0 OVER GAY RIGHTS DOMINATED HEADLINES THIS WEEK.
DEBATES 0 OVER GAY RIGHTS DOMINATED HEADLINES THIS WEEK.
AFTER STRONG PRESSURE FROM ALL DOMINATED HEADLINES THIS WEEK.
AFTER STRONG PRESSURE FROM ALL SIDES GOVERNOR JAN BREWER VETOED AFTER STRONG PRESSURE FROM ALL SIDES GOVERNOR JAN BREWER VETOED A CONTROVERSIAL BILL THAT WOULD SIDES GOVERNOR JAN BREWER VETOED A CONTROVERSIAL BILL THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN BUSINESS OWNERS THE A CONTROVERSIAL BILL THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN BUSINESS OWNERS THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE BASED ON HAVE GIVEN BUSINESS OWNERS THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE BASED ON RELIGIOUS GROUNZ.
RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE BASED ON RELIGIOUS GROUNZ.
ACTIVISTS FOR GAY RIGHTS SAID RELIGIOUS GROUNZ.
ACTIVISTS FOR GAY RIGHTS SAID THE BILL DISCRIMINATED.
ACTIVISTS FOR GAY RIGHTS SAID THE BILL DISCRIMINATED.
THE STATE'S CATHOLIC BISHOPS AND THE BILL DISCRIMINATED.
THE STATE'S CATHOLIC BISHOPS AND MANY EVANGELICAL GROUPS URGED THE STATE'S CATHOLIC BISHOPS AND MANY EVANGELICAL GROUPS URGED BREWER TO SIGN THE BILL.
MANY EVANGELICAL GROUPS URGED BREWER TO SIGN THE BILL.
IN TEXAS A FEDERAL JUDGE STRUCK BREWER TO SIGN THE BILL.
IN TEXAS A FEDERAL JUDGE STRUCK DOWN THE STATE BAN ON SAME SEX IN TEXAS A FEDERAL JUDGE STRUCK DOWN THE STATE BAN ON SAME SEX MARRIAGE ALTHOUGH THE RULING DOWN THE STATE BAN ON SAME SEX MARRIAGE ALTHOUGH THE RULING WON'T TAKE EFFECT PENDING AN MARRIAGE ALTHOUGH THE RULING WON'T TAKE EFFECT PENDING AN APPEAL.
WON'T TAKE EFFECT PENDING AN APPEAL.
THE TEXAS RULING FOLLOWS A APPEAL.
THE TEXAS RULING FOLLOWS A SERIES OF SIMILAR DECISIONS IN THE TEXAS RULING FOLLOWS A SERIES OF SIMILAR DECISIONS IN OTHER STATES INCLUDING OKLAHOMA, SERIES OF SIMILAR DECISIONS IN OTHER STATES INCLUDING OKLAHOMA, UTAH AND VIRGINIA.
OTHER STATES INCLUDING OKLAHOMA, UTAH AND VIRGINIA.
AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR SAME SEX UTAH AND VIRGINIA.
AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST DECADE ACCORDING TO MARRIAGE HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST DECADE ACCORDING TO A NEW SURVEY OUT THIS WEEK.
IN THE LAST DECADE ACCORDING TO A NEW SURVEY OUT THIS WEEK.
THE REPORT FROM PUBLIC RELIGION A NEW SURVEY OUT THIS WEEK.
THE REPORT FROM PUBLIC RELIGION RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOUND OVERALL THE REPORT FROM PUBLIC RELIGION RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOUND OVERALL APPROVAL OF SAME SEX MARRIAGE RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOUND OVERALL APPROVAL OF SAME SEX MARRIAGE HAS JUMPED 21% SINCE 2003 WITH APPROVAL OF SAME SEX MARRIAGE HAS JUMPED 21% SINCE 2003 WITH 53% OF AMERICANS NOW FAVORING HAS JUMPED 21% SINCE 2003 WITH 53% OF AMERICANS NOW FAVORING IT.
53% OF AMERICANS NOW FAVORING IT.
SUPPORT WITHIN RELIGIOUS GROUPS IT.
SUPPORT WITHIN RELIGIOUS GROUPS IS ALSO RISING.
SUPPORT WITHIN RELIGIOUS GROUPS IS ALSO RISING.
WHITE EVANGELICALS ARE THE MOST IS ALSO RISING.
WHITE EVANGELICALS ARE THE MOST POSED TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE BUT WHITE EVANGELICALS ARE THE MOST POSED TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE BUT EVEN SO THE NUMBER OF THEM WHO POSED TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE BUT EVEN SO THE NUMBER OF THEM WHO SAY IT'S AGAINST THEIR RELIGIOUS EVEN SO THE NUMBER OF THEM WHO SAY IT'S AGAINST THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DROPPED FROM 84% TO 78%.
SAY IT'S AGAINST THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DROPPED FROM 84% TO 78%.
AND THERE'S A BIG GENERATION BELIEFS DROPPED FROM 84% TO 78%.
AND THERE'S A BIG GENERATION GAP.
AND THERE'S A BIG GENERATION GAP.
THE NUMBER OF WHITE EVANGELICALS GAP.
THE NUMBER OF WHITE EVANGELICALS BETWEEN 18 AND 33 WHO OPPOSE GAY THE NUMBER OF WHITE EVANGELICALS BETWEEN 18 AND 33 WHO OPPOSE GAY MARRIAGE IS 54%.
BETWEEN 18 AND 33 WHO OPPOSE GAY MARRIAGE IS 54%.
RELIGIOUS LEADERS CONTINUE TO MARRIAGE IS 54%.
RELIGIOUS LEADERS CONTINUE TO APPEAL FOR PRAYERS ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS CONTINUE TO APPEAL FOR PRAYERS ABOUT THE CRISIS IN UKRAINE.
APPEAL FOR PRAYERS ABOUT THE CRISIS IN UKRAINE.
A PROMINENT ARCHBISHOP IN THE CRISIS IN UKRAINE.
A PROMINENT ARCHBISHOP IN THE UKRANIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH A PROMINENT ARCHBISHOP IN THE UKRANIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TRAVELED TO ROME THIS WEEK UKRANIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TRAVELED TO ROME THIS WEEK SEEKING SOLIDARITY FROM THE TRAVELED TO ROME THIS WEEK SEEKING SOLIDARITY FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
SEEKING SOLIDARITY FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
MANY UKRANIAN CATHOLIC AND/OR CATHOLIC CHURCH.
MANY UKRANIAN CATHOLIC AND/OR THOUGH DOCKS CLERGY SUPPORTED MANY UKRANIAN CATHOLIC AND/OR THOUGH DOCKS CLERGY SUPPORTED THE PROTESTERS.
THOUGH DOCKS CLERGY SUPPORTED THE PROTESTERS.
THE MAN APPOINTED ACTING THE PROTESTERS.
THE MAN APPOINTED ACTING PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE LAST SUNDAY THE MAN APPOINTED ACTING PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE LAST SUNDAY IS A BAPTIST PASTOR.
PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE LAST SUNDAY IS A BAPTIST PASTOR.
PROTESTANTS MAKE UP JUST 2% OF IS A BAPTIST PASTOR.
PROTESTANTS MAKE UP JUST 2% OF THE POPULATION THERE.
PROTESTANTS MAKE UP JUST 2% OF THE POPULATION THERE.
>>> THE UNITED NATIONS HAS AGAIN THE POPULATION THERE.
>>> THE UNITED NATIONS HAS AGAIN THIS WEEK CONDEMNED THE ONGOING >>> THE UNITED NATIONS HAS AGAIN THIS WEEK CONDEMNED THE ONGOING HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN SYRIA.
THIS WEEK CONDEMNED THE ONGOING HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN SYRIA.
AT A SPECIAL BRIEFING THE U.N. HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN SYRIA.
AT A SPECIAL BRIEFING THE U.N. HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR REFUGEES AT A SPECIAL BRIEFING THE U.N. HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR REFUGEES SAID FIVE YEARS AGO SYRIA WAS HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR REFUGEES SAID FIVE YEARS AGO SYRIA WAS THE WORLD'S SECOND LARGEST SAID FIVE YEARS AGO SYRIA WAS THE WORLD'S SECOND LARGEST REFUGEE HOSTING COUNTRY.
THE WORLD'S SECOND LARGEST REFUGEE HOSTING COUNTRY.
BUT TODAY SYRIANS ARE POISED TO REFUGEE HOSTING COUNTRY.
BUT TODAY SYRIANS ARE POISED TO REPLACE AFGHANS AS THE WORLD'S BUT TODAY SYRIANS ARE POISED TO REPLACE AFGHANS AS THE WORLD'S BIGGEST REFUGEE GROUP.
REPLACE AFGHANS AS THE WORLD'S BIGGEST REFUGEE GROUP.
HE WARNED IF CURRENT TRENDS BIGGEST REFUGEE GROUP.
HE WARNED IF CURRENT TRENDS CONTINUE THE NUMBER OF SYRIAN HE WARNED IF CURRENT TRENDS CONTINUE THE NUMBER OF SYRIAN REFUGEES MAY BE 4 MILLION BY THE CONTINUE THE NUMBER OF SYRIAN REFUGEES MAY BE 4 MILLION BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
REFUGEES MAY BE 4 MILLION BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
MEANWHILE THE INTERNATIONAL END OF THE YEAR.
MEANWHILE THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY CALLED ON SYRIA TO MEANWHILE THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY CALLED ON SYRIA TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW SECURITY COMMUNITY CALLED ON SYRIA TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION DEMANDING COMPLY WITH THE NEW SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION DEMANDING OPEN ACCESS TO AID.
COUNCIL RESOLUTION DEMANDING OPEN ACCESS TO AID.
MANY AREAS INSIDE SYRIA HAVE OPEN ACCESS TO AID.
MANY AREAS INSIDE SYRIA HAVE BEEN CUT OFF BY THE FIGHTING.
MANY AREAS INSIDE SYRIA HAVE BEEN CUT OFF BY THE FIGHTING.
THIS WEEK DRAMATIC PICTURES WERE BEEN CUT OFF BY THE FIGHTING.
THIS WEEK DRAMATIC PICTURES WERE RELEASED OF THOUSANDS GATHERING THIS WEEK DRAMATIC PICTURES WERE RELEASED OF THOUSANDS GATHERING TO RECEIVE FOOD FROM A U.N.
RELEASED OF THOUSANDS GATHERING TO RECEIVE FOOD FROM A U.N.
DELIVERY AT A REFUGEE CAMP IN TO RECEIVE FOOD FROM A U.N.
DELIVERY AT A REFUGEE CAMP IN DAMASCUS.
DELIVERY AT A REFUGEE CAMP IN DAMASCUS.
AID OFFICIALS SAID THE SCALE OF DAMASCUS.
AID OFFICIALS SAID THE SCALE OF SUFFERING WAS DEVASTATING.
AID OFFICIALS SAID THE SCALE OF SUFFERING WAS DEVASTATING.
>>> FOR BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN SUFFERING WAS DEVASTATING.
>>> FOR BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN CHRISTIANS THIS COMING WEEK >>> FOR BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN CHRISTIANS THIS COMING WEEK MARKS THE START OF LENT.
CHRISTIANS THIS COMING WEEK MARKS THE START OF LENT.
THE SEASON OF FASTING AND MARKS THE START OF LENT.
THE SEASON OF FASTING AND PENTINENCE THAT LEADS TO EAST THE SEASON OF FASTING AND PENTINENCE THAT LEADS TO EAST ENGINEER.
PENTINENCE THAT LEADS TO EAST ENGINEER.
THE POPE URGED CHRISTIANS TO ENGINEER.
THE POPE URGED CHRISTIANS TO CONFRONT POVERTY.
THE POPE URGED CHRISTIANS TO CONFRONT POVERTY.
IT WAS ANOTHER BUSY WEEK FOR THE CONFRONT POVERTY.
IT WAS ANOTHER BUSY WEEK FOR THE POPE.
IT WAS ANOTHER BUSY WEEK FOR THE POPE.
ON MONDAY FRANCIS MADE SWEEPING POPE.
ON MONDAY FRANCIS MADE SWEEPING CHANGES TO THE VATICAN'S ON MONDAY FRANCIS MADE SWEEPING CHANGES TO THE VATICAN'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
CHANGES TO THE VATICAN'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
AS PART OF THE REFORM HE CREATED FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
AS PART OF THE REFORM HE CREATED A NEW WATCHDOG OFFICE THE AS PART OF THE REFORM HE CREATED A NEW WATCHDOG OFFICE THE SECRETARY FOR THE ECONOMY.
A NEW WATCHDOG OFFICE THE SECRETARY FOR THE ECONOMY.
FRIDAY MARKED A ONE YEAR SECRETARY FOR THE ECONOMY.
FRIDAY MARKED A ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF POPE BENEDICT XVI FRIDAY MARKED A ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF POPE BENEDICT XVI STEPPING DOWN.
ANNIVERSARY OF POPE BENEDICT XVI STEPPING DOWN.
AT THE TIME HE SAID HE WOULD STEPPING DOWN.
AT THE TIME HE SAID HE WOULD STAY LARGELY QUOTE HIDDEN FROM AT THE TIME HE SAID HE WOULD STAY LARGELY QUOTE HIDDEN FROM THE WORLD.
STAY LARGELY QUOTE HIDDEN FROM THE WORLD.
BENEDICT LIVES AT THE VATICAN THE WORLD.
BENEDICT LIVES AT THE VATICAN BUT LAST WEEKEND HE MADE HIS BENEDICT LIVES AT THE VATICAN BUT LAST WEEKEND HE MADE HIS FIRST APPEARANCE AT A PUBLIC BUT LAST WEEKEND HE MADE HIS FIRST APPEARANCE AT A PUBLIC LITURGY.
FIRST APPEARANCE AT A PUBLIC LITURGY.
HE SAID FRANCIS INVITED HIM TO LITURGY.
HE SAID FRANCIS INVITED HIM TO THE CEREMONY WHERE NEW CARDINALS HE SAID FRANCIS INVITED HIM TO THE CEREMONY WHERE NEW CARDINALS WOULD RECEIVE THEIR RED HATS.
THE CEREMONY WHERE NEW CARDINALS WOULD RECEIVE THEIR RED HATS.
>>> IN WASHINGTON MUSLIM WOULD RECEIVE THEIR RED HATS.
>>> IN WASHINGTON MUSLIM ACTIVIST GROUPS RALLIED IN FRONT >>> IN WASHINGTON MUSLIM ACTIVIST GROUPS RALLIED IN FRONT OF THE EMBASSY OF MYANMAR ACTIVIST GROUPS RALLIED IN FRONT OF THE EMBASSY OF MYANMAR CALLING FOR AN END OF THE OF THE EMBASSY OF MYANMAR CALLING FOR AN END OF THE PERSECUTION OF THE MINORITY.
CALLING FOR AN END OF THE PERSECUTION OF THE MINORITY.
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE MOSTLY PERSECUTION OF THE MINORITY.
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE MOSTLY MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE MOSTLY MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN MYANMAR'S SECTARIAN VIOLENCE.
MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN MYANMAR'S SECTARIAN VIOLENCE.
>>> THE FOOD AND DRUG MYANMAR'S SECTARIAN VIOLENCE.
>>> THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION THIS WEEK DEBATED >>> THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION THIS WEEK DEBATED WHETHER TO GREEN LIGHT TESTING ADMINISTRATION THIS WEEK DEBATED WHETHER TO GREEN LIGHT TESTING OF CONTROVERSIAL NEW TECHNOLOGY WHETHER TO GREEN LIGHT TESTING OF CONTROVERSIAL NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD USE THE DNA OF THREE OF CONTROVERSIAL NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD USE THE DNA OF THREE PARENTS TO CREATE A HUMAN THAT WOULD USE THE DNA OF THREE PARENTS TO CREATE A HUMAN EMBRYO.
PARENTS TO CREATE A HUMAN EMBRYO.
SCIENTISTS SAY THAT COULD HELP EMBRYO.
SCIENTISTS SAY THAT COULD HELP PREVENT INHERITED DISEASEs.
SCIENTISTS SAY THAT COULD HELP PREVENT INHERITED DISEASEs.
HOWEVER ETHICAL CONCERNS THAT IT PREVENT INHERITED DISEASEs.
HOWEVER ETHICAL CONCERNS THAT IT COULD LEAD TO DESIGNER BABIES.
HOWEVER ETHICAL CONCERNS THAT IT COULD LEAD TO DESIGNER BABIES.
THE TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN COULD LEAD TO DESIGNER BABIES.
THE TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY TESTED IN MONKEYS.
THE TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY TESTED IN MONKEYS.
THE QUESTION IS NOW WHETHER IT SUCCESSFULLY TESTED IN MONKEYS.
THE QUESTION IS NOW WHETHER IT WOULD BE SAFE AND ETHICAL TO USE THE QUESTION IS NOW WHETHER IT WOULD BE SAFE AND ETHICAL TO USE IT IN HUMANS AS WELL.
WOULD BE SAFE AND ETHICAL TO USE IT IN HUMANS AS WELL.
>>> THE NATIONAL DEBATE OVER IT IN HUMANS AS WELL.
>>> THE NATIONAL DEBATE OVER WHETHER SOME PRISONERS SHOULD BE >>> THE NATIONAL DEBATE OVER WHETHER SOME PRISONERS SHOULD BE LOCKED UP BY THEMSELVES HEATED WHETHER SOME PRISONERS SHOULD BE LOCKED UP BY THEMSELVES HEATED UP THIS WEEK.
LOCKED UP BY THEMSELVES HEATED UP THIS WEEK.
A SENATE SUBCOMMITTEE HELD A UP THIS WEEK.
A SENATE SUBCOMMITTEE HELD A HEARING ON THE PRACTICE AND NEW A SENATE SUBCOMMITTEE HELD A HEARING ON THE PRACTICE AND NEW YORK BECAME THE LARGEST STATE TO HEARING ON THE PRACTICE AND NEW YORK BECAME THE LARGEST STATE TO CURB THE USE OF IS SOLITARY YORK BECAME THE LARGEST STATE TO CURB THE USE OF IS SOLITARY CONFINEMENT PARTICULARLY FOR CURB THE USE OF IS SOLITARY CONFINEMENT PARTICULARLY FOR MINORS, DISABLED INDIVIDUALS AND CONFINEMENT PARTICULARLY FOR MINORS, DISABLED INDIVIDUALS AND PREGNANT WOMEN.
MINORS, DISABLED INDIVIDUALS AND PREGNANT WOMEN.
MEANWHILE A GROWING FAITH-BASED PREGNANT WOMEN.
MEANWHILE A GROWING FAITH-BASED GROUP IS MOBILIZING AGAINST MEANWHILE A GROWING FAITH-BASED GROUP IS MOBILIZING AGAINST SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
GROUP IS MOBILIZING AGAINST SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
AT AN EVENT ON CAPITOL HILL, SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
AT AN EVENT ON CAPITOL HILL, RELIGIOUS LEADERS JOINED FORMER AT AN EVENT ON CAPITOL HILL, RELIGIOUS LEADERS JOINED FORMER PRISONERS TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST RELIGIOUS LEADERS JOINED FORMER PRISONERS TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE PRACTICE.
PRISONERS TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE PRACTICE.
MANY CALLED INHUMANE AND SAID IT THE PRACTICE.
MANY CALLED INHUMANE AND SAID IT VIOLATES THE TEACHING OF THEIR MANY CALLED INHUMANE AND SAID IT VIOLATES THE TEACHING OF THEIR FAITH.
VIOLATES THE TEACHING OF THEIR FAITH.
>>> LUCKY SEVERSON TOOK A LOOK FAITH.
>>> LUCKY SEVERSON TOOK A LOOK AT THE DEBATE OVER SOLITARY >>> LUCKY SEVERSON TOOK A LOOK AT THE DEBATE OVER SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
AT THE DEBATE OVER SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
IS IT WRONG S-IT NECESSARY OR CONFINEMENT.
IS IT WRONG S-IT NECESSARY OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN?
IS IT WRONG S-IT NECESSARY OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN?
>> Reporter: ON ANY GIVEN DAY SOMETHING IN BETWEEN?
>> Reporter: ON ANY GIVEN DAY IT'S ESTIMATED THERE'S 80,000 >> Reporter: ON ANY GIVEN DAY IT'S ESTIMATED THERE'S 80,000 AMERICANS LOCKED IN A SMALL CELL IT'S ESTIMATED THERE'S 80,000 AMERICANS LOCKED IN A SMALL CELL FOR 23 HOURS OR MORE PER DAY.
AMERICANS LOCKED IN A SMALL CELL FOR 23 HOURS OR MORE PER DAY.
IT'S KNOWN AS SOLITARY FOR 23 HOURS OR MORE PER DAY.
IT'S KNOWN AS SOLITARY CONFINEMENT, SOMETIMES CALLED IT'S KNOWN AS SOLITARY CONFINEMENT, SOMETIMES CALLED SEGREGATION, RESTRICTED HOUSING CONFINEMENT, SOMETIMES CALLED SEGREGATION, RESTRICTED HOUSING OR ONE OF THE INMATES, FLAT TIME SEGREGATION, RESTRICTED HOUSING OR ONE OF THE INMATES, FLAT TIME OR THE HOLE.
OR ONE OF THE INMATES, FLAT TIME OR THE HOLE.
>> IMAGINE YOURSELF LOCKED IN A OR THE HOLE.
>> IMAGINE YOURSELF LOCKED IN A CLOSET.
>> IMAGINE YOURSELF LOCKED IN A CLOSET.
>> Reporter: HEATHER IS WITH THE CLOSET.
>> Reporter: HEATHER IS WITH THE JUSTICE BASED FELLOWSHIP WHICH >> Reporter: HEATHER IS WITH THE JUSTICE BASED FELLOWSHIP WHICH IS PART OF THE PRISON FELLOWSHIP JUSTICE BASED FELLOWSHIP WHICH IS PART OF THE PRISON FELLOWSHIP MINISTRIES.
IS PART OF THE PRISON FELLOWSHIP MINISTRIES.
IT TAKES THE POSITION AS DO MINISTRIES.
IT TAKES THE POSITION AS DO SEVERAL OTHER RELIGIOUS IT TAKES THE POSITION AS DO SEVERAL OTHER RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT SOLITARY SEVERAL OTHER RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT SOLITARY CONFINEMENT IS AN UNCHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS THAT SOLITARY CONFINEMENT IS AN UNCHRISTIAN PRACTICE.
CONFINEMENT IS AN UNCHRISTIAN PRACTICE.
RESEARCHERS FOUND IT DOES MORE PRACTICE.
RESEARCHERS FOUND IT DOES MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
RESEARCHERS FOUND IT DOES MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
>> MANY PEOPLE THEY WORKED WITH HARM THAN GOOD.
>> MANY PEOPLE THEY WORKED WITH WHO WERE HELD IN SOLITARY >> MANY PEOPLE THEY WORKED WITH WHO WERE HELD IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT EXPERIENCED WHO WERE HELD IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT EXPERIENCED PARANOIA, HALLUCINATIONS, CONFINEMENT EXPERIENCED PARANOIA, HALLUCINATIONS, DEPRESSION, SOME REACTED PARANOIA, HALLUCINATIONS, DEPRESSION, SOME REACTED EVENTUALLY WITH VIOLENCE, DEPRESSION, SOME REACTED EVENTUALLY WITH VIOLENCE, UNCONTROLLABLE ANGER.
EVENTUALLY WITH VIOLENCE, UNCONTROLLABLE ANGER.
>> Reporter: BOBBY KNOWS WHAT IT UNCONTROLLABLE ANGER.
>> Reporter: BOBBY KNOWS WHAT IT WAS LIKE.
>> Reporter: BOBBY KNOWS WHAT IT WAS LIKE.
HE WAS IN SOLITARY FOR OVER FIVE WAS LIKE.
HE WAS IN SOLITARY FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
HE WAS IN SOLITARY FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
>> IT WAS A HORROR SHOW.
YEARS.
>> IT WAS A HORROR SHOW.
YOU GO INSANE IN THERE.
>> IT WAS A HORROR SHOW.
YOU GO INSANE IN THERE.
YOU GO CRAZY.
YOU GO INSANE IN THERE.
YOU GO CRAZY.
YOU HEAR GUYS SAYING YEAH, WHAT, YOU GO CRAZY.
YOU HEAR GUYS SAYING YEAH, WHAT, WHAT.
YOU HEAR GUYS SAYING YEAH, WHAT, WHAT.
THE VENTILATOR CALLED HIS NAME.
WHAT.
THE VENTILATOR CALLED HIS NAME.
THE THING THAT REALLY SCARED ME THE VENTILATOR CALLED HIS NAME.
THE THING THAT REALLY SCARED ME IN THERE IS I WAS WATCHING MY THE THING THAT REALLY SCARED ME IN THERE IS I WAS WATCHING MY HUMANITY AND COMPASSION SLIPPING IN THERE IS I WAS WATCHING MY HUMANITY AND COMPASSION SLIPPING OUT OF MY GRASP.
HUMANITY AND COMPASSION SLIPPING OUT OF MY GRASP.
>> Reporter: JOHN IS CHAIRMAN OF OUT OF MY GRASP.
>> Reporter: JOHN IS CHAIRMAN OF THE WASHINGTON, D.C. CORRECTIONS >> Reporter: JOHN IS CHAIRMAN OF THE WASHINGTON, D.C. CORRECTIONS OFFICER UNION.
THE WASHINGTON, D.C. CORRECTIONS OFFICER UNION.
HE THINKS AS DO MANY PRISON OFFICER UNION.
HE THINKS AS DO MANY PRISON GUARDS NATIONWIDE THAT SOLITARY HE THINKS AS DO MANY PRISON GUARDS NATIONWIDE THAT SOLITARY IS GETTING A BAD RAP.
GUARDS NATIONWIDE THAT SOLITARY IS GETTING A BAD RAP.
IT'S NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE IS GETTING A BAD RAP.
IT'S NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF PRISONERS AND GUARDS IT'S NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF PRISONERS AND GUARDS WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
SAFETY OF PRISONERS AND GUARDS WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
>> I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN RUN A WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
>> I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN RUN A PRISON SYSTEM AT ALL WITHOUT, >> I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN RUN A PRISON SYSTEM AT ALL WITHOUT, WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF PRISON SYSTEM AT ALL WITHOUT, WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF SEGREGATION.
WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF SEGREGATION.
I DON'T PREFER TO USE THE TERM SEGREGATION.
I DON'T PREFER TO USE THE TERM SOLITARY.
I DON'T PREFER TO USE THE TERM SOLITARY.
I THINK THAT JUST HAS TOO MANY SOLITARY.
I THINK THAT JUST HAS TOO MANY NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS.
I THINK THAT JUST HAS TOO MANY NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS.
>> Reporter: SOLITARY HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS.
>> Reporter: SOLITARY HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION WITH BOBBY.
>> Reporter: SOLITARY HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION WITH BOBBY.
HE WAS SENT TO PRISON FOR 40 NEGATIVE CONNOTATION WITH BOBBY.
HE WAS SENT TO PRISON FOR 40 YEARS AFTER AN ARMED ROBBERY.
HE WAS SENT TO PRISON FOR 40 YEARS AFTER AN ARMED ROBBERY.
HE ENDED UP IN SOLITARY FOR YEARS AFTER AN ARMED ROBBERY.
HE ENDED UP IN SOLITARY FOR TRYING TO ESCAPE.
HE ENDED UP IN SOLITARY FOR TRYING TO ESCAPE.
>> FIVE YEARS AND ONE MONTH FOR TRYING TO ESCAPE.
>> FIVE YEARS AND ONE MONTH FOR ESCAPING.
>> FIVE YEARS AND ONE MONTH FOR ESCAPING.
NOBODY GOT HURT.
ESCAPING.
NOBODY GOT HURT.
I EMBARRASSED THE DEPARTMENT OF NOBODY GOT HURT.
I EMBARRASSED THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
I EMBARRASSED THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
>> Reporter: WHEN HE GOT OUT OF CORRECTIONS.
>> Reporter: WHEN HE GOT OUT OF PRISON HE VOLUNTEERED TO WORK >> Reporter: WHEN HE GOT OUT OF PRISON HE VOLUNTEERED TO WORK WITH THE QUAKER PROGRAM FOCUSING PRISON HE VOLUNTEERED TO WORK WITH THE QUAKER PROGRAM FOCUSING ON PRISONER'S RIGHTS.
WITH THE QUAKER PROGRAM FOCUSING ON PRISONER'S RIGHTS.
IRONICALLY IT WAS THE QUAKERS ON PRISONER'S RIGHTS.
IRONICALLY IT WAS THE QUAKERS INTRODUCING SOLITARY CONFINEMENT IRONICALLY IT WAS THE QUAKERS INTRODUCING SOLITARY CONFINEMENT WITH THE IDEA TO GIVE THE GUILTY INTRODUCING SOLITARY CONFINEMENT WITH THE IDEA TO GIVE THE GUILTY SOME TIME BY THEMSELVES TO FEEL WITH THE IDEA TO GIVE THE GUILTY SOME TIME BY THEMSELVES TO FEEL GUILTY ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS.
SOME TIME BY THEMSELVES TO FEEL GUILTY ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS.
NOW THEY ARE WORKING TO ABOLISH GUILTY ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS.
NOW THEY ARE WORKING TO ABOLISH SOLITARY.
NOW THEY ARE WORKING TO ABOLISH SOLITARY.
HIS CONVERSION OCCURRED IN 2007.
SOLITARY.
HIS CONVERSION OCCURRED IN 2007.
>> IT WAS A REAL BAD YEAR.
HIS CONVERSION OCCURRED IN 2007.
>> IT WAS A REAL BAD YEAR.
WORST YEAR THAT I EVER HAD SINCE >> IT WAS A REAL BAD YEAR.
WORST YEAR THAT I EVER HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN IN CORRECT CHANCE WORST YEAR THAT I EVER HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN IN CORRECT CHANCE WHICH IS 32 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN IN CORRECT CHANCE WHICH IS 32 YEARS.
>> Reporter: THE MISSISSIPPI WHICH IS 32 YEARS.
>> Reporter: THE MISSISSIPPI DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HAD A >> Reporter: THE MISSISSIPPI DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HAD A SERIOUS PROBLEM AT THE SEAT'S DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HAD A SERIOUS PROBLEM AT THE SEAT'S SUPERMAX PRISON AN OUTBREAK OF SERIOUS PROBLEM AT THE SEAT'S SUPERMAX PRISON AN OUTBREAK OF INMATE STABBINGS, KILLINGS, SUPERMAX PRISON AN OUTBREAK OF INMATE STABBINGS, KILLINGS, SUICIDE.
INMATE STABBINGS, KILLINGS, SUICIDE.
BUT INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE SUICIDE.
BUT INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE PRISON ON TOTAL LOCK DOWN THE BUT INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE PRISON ON TOTAL LOCK DOWN THE CORRECTIONS COMMISSIONER TOOK A PRISON ON TOTAL LOCK DOWN THE CORRECTIONS COMMISSIONER TOOK A GIANT LEAP.
CORRECTIONS COMMISSIONER TOOK A GIANT LEAP.
>> THIS WAS A MAJOR DECISION.
GIANT LEAP.
>> THIS WAS A MAJOR DECISION.
I MEAN TO TAKE INDIVIDUALS THAT >> THIS WAS A MAJOR DECISION.
I MEAN TO TAKE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD BEEN LOCKED UP FOR YEARS AND I MEAN TO TAKE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD BEEN LOCKED UP FOR YEARS AND TAKE THEM FROM A SINGLE CELL AND HAD BEEN LOCKED UP FOR YEARS AND TAKE THEM FROM A SINGLE CELL AND PUT THEM IN THE GENERAL TAKE THEM FROM A SINGLE CELL AND PUT THEM IN THE GENERAL POPULATION UNIT IT WAS A MAJOR PUT THEM IN THE GENERAL POPULATION UNIT IT WAS A MAJOR DECISION.
POPULATION UNIT IT WAS A MAJOR DECISION.
>> Reporter: AND NOT ONE THAT DECISION.
>> Reporter: AND NOT ONE THAT WAS POLITICALLY POPULAR IN AN >> Reporter: AND NOT ONE THAT WAS POLITICALLY POPULAR IN AN ELECTION YEAR IN A STATE THAT WAS POLITICALLY POPULAR IN AN ELECTION YEAR IN A STATE THAT PRIZE ITSELF AS BEING TOUGH ON ELECTION YEAR IN A STATE THAT PRIZE ITSELF AS BEING TOUGH ON CRIMINALS.
PRIZE ITSELF AS BEING TOUGH ON CRIMINALS.
THE COMMISSIONER REMOVED 700 TO CRIMINALS.
THE COMMISSIONER REMOVED 700 TO THE GENERAL POPULATION AND THE COMMISSIONER REMOVED 700 TO THE GENERAL POPULATION AND VIOLENCE WENT DOWN 40%.
THE GENERAL POPULATION AND VIOLENCE WENT DOWN 40%.
>> I HAVE WATCHED INMATES PLACED VIOLENCE WENT DOWN 40%.
>> I HAVE WATCHED INMATES PLACED IN A SINGLE CELL AND OVER A >> I HAVE WATCHED INMATES PLACED IN A SINGLE CELL AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME I WATCHED THE IN A SINGLE CELL AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME I WATCHED THE MENTAL CAPACITY CHANGE SEVERELY.
PERIOD OF TIME I WATCHED THE MENTAL CAPACITY CHANGE SEVERELY.
I THINK THAT IF YOU TREAT THEM MENTAL CAPACITY CHANGE SEVERELY.
I THINK THAT IF YOU TREAT THEM LIKE ANIMALS THAT'S EXACTLY THE I THINK THAT IF YOU TREAT THEM LIKE ANIMALS THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY THEY BEHAVE.
LIKE ANIMALS THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY THEY BEHAVE.
>> THE HATE, ANGER AND RAGE WAS WAY THEY BEHAVE.
>> THE HATE, ANGER AND RAGE WAS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL.
>> THE HATE, ANGER AND RAGE WAS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL.
CUTTING GUYS HEADS DOWN IN MY TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL.
CUTTING GUYS HEADS DOWN IN MY MIND AND ROLLING THEM DOWN THE CUTTING GUYS HEADS DOWN IN MY MIND AND ROLLING THEM DOWN THE CORRIDOR WAS RELIEVING TO ME.
MIND AND ROLLING THEM DOWN THE CORRIDOR WAS RELIEVING TO ME.
>> Reporter: MANY CORRECTIONS CORRIDOR WAS RELIEVING TO ME.
>> Reporter: MANY CORRECTIONS OFFICERS SAY THAT'S PRECISELY >> Reporter: MANY CORRECTIONS OFFICERS SAY THAT'S PRECISELY WHY YOU NEED TO HAVE SOLITARY TO OFFICERS SAY THAT'S PRECISELY WHY YOU NEED TO HAVE SOLITARY TO HOUSE THE BAD GUYS, THE WHY YOU NEED TO HAVE SOLITARY TO HOUSE THE BAD GUYS, THE ASSAULTERS, THE RAPISTS, THE HOUSE THE BAD GUYS, THE ASSAULTERS, THE RAPISTS, THE CRAZIES.
ASSAULTERS, THE RAPISTS, THE CRAZIES.
>> YOU WORK IN SOLITARY NO CRAZIES.
>> YOU WORK IN SOLITARY NO MATTER WHERE IT THE CHANCES OF >> YOU WORK IN SOLITARY NO MATTER WHERE IT THE CHANCES OF YOU BEING ASSAULTED GO THROUGH MATTER WHERE IT THE CHANCES OF YOU BEING ASSAULTED GO THROUGH THE ROOF.
YOU BEING ASSAULTED GO THROUGH THE ROOF.
CHANCES OF HAVING BODILY FLUIDS THE ROOF.
CHANCES OF HAVING BODILY FLUIDS THROWN ON YOU.
CHANCES OF HAVING BODILY FLUIDS THROWN ON YOU.
YOU'RE IN THERE IN A VERY THROWN ON YOU.
YOU'RE IN THERE IN A VERY VOLATILE SITUATION.
YOU'RE IN THERE IN A VERY VOLATILE SITUATION.
>> THE TOP REASONS FOR PLACING VOLATILE SITUATION.
>> THE TOP REASONS FOR PLACING SOMEONE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE >> THE TOP REASONS FOR PLACING SOMEONE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE RECORDS OF THE DISCIPLINARY SOMEONE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE RECORDS OF THE DISCIPLINARY INFRACTION OF WHY THE PERSON RECORDS OF THE DISCIPLINARY INFRACTION OF WHY THE PERSON WENT THERE IS NOT BECAUSE OF INFRACTION OF WHY THE PERSON WENT THERE IS NOT BECAUSE OF SIGNIFICANT SAFETY RISKS BUT ARE WENT THERE IS NOT BECAUSE OF SIGNIFICANT SAFETY RISKS BUT ARE ACTUALLY REFUSING AN ORDER.
SIGNIFICANT SAFETY RISKS BUT ARE ACTUALLY REFUSING AN ORDER.
BEING IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE ACTUALLY REFUSING AN ORDER.
BEING IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.
BEING IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.
JUST MINOR RULE VIOLATIONS.
WRONG TIME.
JUST MINOR RULE VIOLATIONS.
BEING A NUISANCE.
JUST MINOR RULE VIOLATIONS.
BEING A NUISANCE.
>> Reporter: WHAT ALL SIDES BEING A NUISANCE.
>> Reporter: WHAT ALL SIDES AGREE ON THERE ARE FEW TOO MANY >> Reporter: WHAT ALL SIDES AGREE ON THERE ARE FEW TOO MANY PEOPLE IN PRISON WHO ARE AGREE ON THERE ARE FEW TOO MANY PEOPLE IN PRISON WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL AND NEED HELP AND PEOPLE IN PRISON WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL AND NEED HELP AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE IN MENTALLY ILL AND NEED HELP AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE IN SOLITARY.
THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE IN SOLITARY.
>> I GUARANTEE YOU THE SOLITARY.
>> I GUARANTEE YOU THE DISTRICT'S JAIL IS THE LARGEST >> I GUARANTEE YOU THE DISTRICT'S JAIL IS THE LARGEST MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER IN THE DISTRICT'S JAIL IS THE LARGEST MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
>> Reporter: FOR THOSE IN DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
>> Reporter: FOR THOSE IN SOLITARY THE QUESTION IS ARE >> Reporter: FOR THOSE IN SOLITARY THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY PUT THERE BECAUSE MENTALLY SOLITARY THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY PUT THERE BECAUSE MENTALLY ILL OR DOES SOLITARY CAUSE THEY PUT THERE BECAUSE MENTALLY ILL OR DOES SOLITARY CAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS.
ILL OR DOES SOLITARY CAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS.
>> IN TODAY'S WORLD WE GET SO MENTAL ILLNESS.
>> IN TODAY'S WORLD WE GET SO MANY MENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE >> IN TODAY'S WORLD WE GET SO MANY MENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THE DOOR MANY MENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THE DOOR SOMETIMES THEY ARE OUT IN WALKING THROUGH THE DOOR SOMETIMES THEY ARE OUT IN GENERAL POP LAUGS AND ACTING OUT SOMETIMES THEY ARE OUT IN GENERAL POP LAUGS AND ACTING OUT AND CAUSING PROBLEMS.
GENERAL POP LAUGS AND ACTING OUT AND CAUSING PROBLEMS.
>> THEY ARE LOCKING PEOPLE UP AND CAUSING PROBLEMS.
>> THEY ARE LOCKING PEOPLE UP IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT TO >> THEY ARE LOCKING PEOPLE UP IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT TO PREVENT THIS BEHAVIORER AND IT IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT TO PREVENT THIS BEHAVIORER AND IT MAY INSTIGATE BECAUSE OF THE PREVENT THIS BEHAVIORER AND IT MAY INSTIGATE BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT ON THEIR MENTAL HEALTH.
MAY INSTIGATE BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT ON THEIR MENTAL HEALTH.
EVEN MORE VIOLENT BEHAVIOR.
IMPACT ON THEIR MENTAL HEALTH.
EVEN MORE VIOLENT BEHAVIOR.
>> Reporter: ANTI-SOLITARY EVEN MORE VIOLENT BEHAVIOR.
>> Reporter: ANTI-SOLITARY ACTIVISTS SAY IT'S NOT >> Reporter: ANTI-SOLITARY ACTIVISTS SAY IT'S NOT DOWNCOMMON FOR A PRISON TO ACTIVISTS SAY IT'S NOT DOWNCOMMON FOR A PRISON TO RELEASE A PERSON FROM SOLITARY DOWNCOMMON FOR A PRISON TO RELEASE A PERSON FROM SOLITARY TO THE COMMUNITY.
RELEASE A PERSON FROM SOLITARY TO THE COMMUNITY.
A STUDY IN WASHINGTON STATE SHOW TO THE COMMUNITY.
A STUDY IN WASHINGTON STATE SHOW THOSE INMATES ARE MORE LIKELY TO A STUDY IN WASHINGTON STATE SHOW THOSE INMATES ARE MORE LIKELY TO COMMIT MORE CRIMES.
THOSE INMATES ARE MORE LIKELY TO COMMIT MORE CRIMES.
>> THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT COMMIT MORE CRIMES.
>> THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT SOLITARY CONFINEMENT EQUALS >> THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT SOLITARY CONFINEMENT EQUALS SAFETY.
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT EQUALS SAFETY.
I WOULD ARGUE SOLITARY SAFETY.
I WOULD ARGUE SOLITARY CONFINEMENT EQUAL AS THREAT TO I WOULD ARGUE SOLITARY CONFINEMENT EQUAL AS THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
CONFINEMENT EQUAL AS THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> 97% OF THE PEOPLE IN PRISON PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> 97% OF THE PEOPLE IN PRISON TODAY ARE COMING TO THE STREET.
>> 97% OF THE PEOPLE IN PRISON TODAY ARE COMING TO THE STREET.
THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU TODAY ARE COMING TO THE STREET.
THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU WANT THEM BACK IN THE STREET?
THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU WANT THEM BACK IN THE STREET?
BETTER OR WORSE THAN WHEN THEY WANT THEM BACK IN THE STREET?
BETTER OR WORSE THAN WHEN THEY WENT IN?
BETTER OR WORSE THAN WHEN THEY WENT IN?
THEY ARE COMING OUT WORSE.
WENT IN?
THEY ARE COMING OUT WORSE.
>> Reporter: WHAT'S DRIVING THE THEY ARE COMING OUT WORSE.
>> Reporter: WHAT'S DRIVING THE EFFORT TO SERIOUSLY CUTBACK ON >> Reporter: WHAT'S DRIVING THE EFFORT TO SERIOUSLY CUTBACK ON SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AS MUCH AS EFFORT TO SERIOUSLY CUTBACK ON SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE IS MONEY.
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE IS MONEY.
>> IN THIS DAY IT COST AS LITTLE ANYTHING ELSE IS MONEY.
>> IN THIS DAY IT COST AS LITTLE BIT OVER TWICE, ABOUT $102 A DAY >> IN THIS DAY IT COST AS LITTLE BIT OVER TWICE, ABOUT $102 A DAY AND A REGULAR INMATE IS ABOUT BIT OVER TWICE, ABOUT $102 A DAY AND A REGULAR INMATE IS ABOUT $41.51 A DAY.
AND A REGULAR INMATE IS ABOUT $41.51 A DAY.
EVERYTHING FOR THE MOST PART IS $41.51 A DAY.
EVERYTHING FOR THE MOST PART IS ROOM SERVICE.
EVERYTHING FOR THE MOST PART IS ROOM SERVICE.
YOU BRING HIS MEAL TO HIM.
ROOM SERVICE.
YOU BRING HIS MEAL TO HIM.
BRING HIS MEDICATION TO HIM.
YOU BRING HIS MEAL TO HIM.
BRING HIS MEDICATION TO HIM.
>> Reporter: WE REQUESTED AN BRING HIS MEDICATION TO HIM.
>> Reporter: WE REQUESTED AN INTERVIEW WITH OFFICIALS AT THE >> Reporter: WE REQUESTED AN INTERVIEW WITH OFFICIALS AT THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS WHICH INTERVIEW WITH OFFICIALS AT THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS WHICH HOUSES OVER 12,000 INMATES IN FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS WHICH HOUSES OVER 12,000 INMATES IN SOLITARY.
HOUSES OVER 12,000 INMATES IN SOLITARY.
THEY DECLINED THE INTERVIEW BUT SOLITARY.
THEY DECLINED THE INTERVIEW BUT THEY HAVE STATED THEIR POSITION THEY DECLINED THE INTERVIEW BUT THEY HAVE STATED THEIR POSITION PUBLICLY IN A SENATE HEARING IN THEY HAVE STATED THEIR POSITION PUBLICLY IN A SENATE HEARING IN 2012.
PUBLICLY IN A SENATE HEARING IN 2012.
THEN BUREAU OF DIRECTOR SAID THE 2012.
THEN BUREAU OF DIRECTOR SAID THE USE OF RESTRICTED HOUSING OR THEN BUREAU OF DIRECTOR SAID THE USE OF RESTRICTED HOUSING OR SOLITARY REMAINS A CRITICAL USE OF RESTRICTED HOUSING OR SOLITARY REMAINS A CRITICAL MANAGEMENT TOOL.
SOLITARY REMAINS A CRITICAL MANAGEMENT TOOL.
FEW ARGUE THAT SOLITARY SHOULD MANAGEMENT TOOL.
FEW ARGUE THAT SOLITARY SHOULD BE ABOLISHED ALL TOGETHER.
FEW ARGUE THAT SOLITARY SHOULD BE ABOLISHED ALL TOGETHER.
MISSISSIPPI COMMISSIONER STILL BE ABOLISHED ALL TOGETHER.
MISSISSIPPI COMMISSIONER STILL HAS ABOUT 300 INMATES IN SFWRAGS MISSISSIPPI COMMISSIONER STILL HAS ABOUT 300 INMATES IN SFWRAGS OUT OF OVER 22,000 IN STATE HAS ABOUT 300 INMATES IN SFWRAGS OUT OF OVER 22,000 IN STATE PRISONS.
OUT OF OVER 22,000 IN STATE PRISONS.
HE RECOMMENDS THAT INMATES IN PRISONS.
HE RECOMMENDS THAT INMATES IN SOLITARY BE REVIEWED EVERY SEVEN HE RECOMMENDS THAT INMATES IN SOLITARY BE REVIEWED EVERY SEVEN DAYS BY AN IMPARTIAL COMMITTEE.
SOLITARY BE REVIEWED EVERY SEVEN DAYS BY AN IMPARTIAL COMMITTEE.
THE MAN WHO SPENT MORE THAN FIVE DAYS BY AN IMPARTIAL COMMITTEE.
THE MAN WHO SPENT MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OF HIS LIFE IN SOLITARY THE MAN WHO SPENT MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OF HIS LIFE IN SOLITARY AGREES.
YEARS OF HIS LIFE IN SOLITARY AGREES.
>> WHEN YOU GOT AN INDIVIDUAL AGREES.
>> WHEN YOU GOT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUT >> WHEN YOU GOT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUT OF CONTROL, WHERE DO YOU PUT THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUT OF CONTROL, WHERE DO YOU PUT HIM?
OF CONTROL, WHERE DO YOU PUT HIM?
YOU HAVE TO PUT HIM IN A HIM?
YOU HAVE TO PUT HIM IN A SEGREGATION UNIT.
YOU HAVE TO PUT HIM IN A SEGREGATION UNIT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO SEGREGATION UNIT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO KEEP HIM THERE FOR YEARS AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO KEEP HIM THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
KEEP HIM THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
DON'T PUT HIM IN THERE AND CLOSE YEARS AND YEARS.
DON'T PUT HIM IN THERE AND CLOSE THE DOOR.
DON'T PUT HIM IN THERE AND CLOSE THE DOOR.
>> Reporter: WHEN THE THE DOOR.
>> Reporter: WHEN THE MISSISSIPPI COMMISSIONER SHUT >> Reporter: WHEN THE MISSISSIPPI COMMISSIONER SHUT THE UNIT IT SAVED THE STATE $6 MISSISSIPPI COMMISSIONER SHUT THE UNIT IT SAVED THE STATE $6 MILLION ANNUALLY THAT'S ONE THE UNIT IT SAVED THE STATE $6 MILLION ANNUALLY THAT'S ONE REASON WHY THE COMMISSIONER WHO MILLION ANNUALLY THAT'S ONE REASON WHY THE COMMISSIONER WHO IS NOW PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN REASON WHY THE COMMISSIONER WHO IS NOW PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN CORRECTIONAL ASSOCIATION HAS IS NOW PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN CORRECTIONAL ASSOCIATION HAS BECOME A PIED PIPER AGAINST CORRECTIONAL ASSOCIATION HAS BECOME A PIED PIPER AGAINST SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
BECOME A PIED PIPER AGAINST SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
>> WE HAVE TO STOP TALKING ABOUT SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
>> WE HAVE TO STOP TALKING ABOUT TOUGH ON CRIME AND GET SMART ON >> WE HAVE TO STOP TALKING ABOUT TOUGH ON CRIME AND GET SMART ON CRIME AND SO YOU AND I OUR TAX TOUGH ON CRIME AND GET SMART ON CRIME AND SO YOU AND I OUR TAX DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT THE WAY CRIME AND SO YOU AND I OUR TAX DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE SPENT.
DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE SPENT.
>> REPORTER: FOR "RELIGION & IT'S MEANT TO BE SPENT.
>> REPORTER: FOR "RELIGION & ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY" I'M IN >> REPORTER: FOR "RELIGION & ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY" I'M IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY" I'M IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
>>> IN OTHER NEWS THE FOUNDING JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
>>> IN OTHER NEWS THE FOUNDING PASTOR OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST >>> IN OTHER NEWS THE FOUNDING PASTOR OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST PENTECOSTAL CHURCH HAS BEEN PASTOR OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST PENTECOSTAL CHURCH HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF EMBEZZLEMENT AND PENTECOSTAL CHURCH HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF EMBEZZLEMENT AND SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN CONVICTED OF EMBEZZLEMENT AND SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN PRISON.
SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN PRISON.
THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD CHURCH IN PRISON.
THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD CHURCH IN SOUTH KOREA HAS MORE THAN 1 THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD CHURCH IN SOUTH KOREA HAS MORE THAN 1 MILLION MEMBERS.
SOUTH KOREA HAS MORE THAN 1 MILLION MEMBERS.
THE FOUNDER WAS CONVICTED OF MILLION MEMBERS.
THE FOUNDER WAS CONVICTED OF EMBEZZLING $12 MILLION OF CHURCH THE FOUNDER WAS CONVICTED OF EMBEZZLING $12 MILLION OF CHURCH FUNDS.
EMBEZZLING $12 MILLION OF CHURCH FUNDS.
HIS SENTENCE WAS SUSPENDED.
FUNDS.
HIS SENTENCE WAS SUSPENDED.
>>> AT THIS YEAR'S ACADEMY HIS SENTENCE WAS SUSPENDED.
>>> AT THIS YEAR'S ACADEMY AWARDS THE MOVIE "PHILOMENA" IS >>> AT THIS YEAR'S ACADEMY AWARDS THE MOVIE "PHILOMENA" IS UP FOR FOUR OSCARS INCLUDING AWARDS THE MOVIE "PHILOMENA" IS UP FOR FOUR OSCARS INCLUDING BEST PICTURE.
UP FOR FOUR OSCARS INCLUDING BEST PICTURE.
IT'S BASE DON'T TRUE STORY OF A BEST PICTURE.
IT'S BASE DON'T TRUE STORY OF A CATHOLIC TEENAGER IN IRELAND WHO IT'S BASE DON'T TRUE STORY OF A CATHOLIC TEENAGER IN IRELAND WHO BECAME PREGNANT OUTSIDE OF CATHOLIC TEENAGER IN IRELAND WHO BECAME PREGNANT OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE IN THE 1950s AND WAS BECAME PREGNANT OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE IN THE 1950s AND WAS FORCED BY NUNS TO GIVE UP HER MARRIAGE IN THE 1950s AND WAS FORCED BY NUNS TO GIVE UP HER SON FOR ADOPTION.
FORCED BY NUNS TO GIVE UP HER SON FOR ADOPTION.
IT DEPICTS HER SEARCH FOR HIM SON FOR ADOPTION.
IT DEPICTS HER SEARCH FOR HIM DECADES LATER HELPED BY A IT DEPICTS HER SEARCH FOR HIM DECADES LATER HELPED BY A BRITISH JOURNALIST.
DECADES LATER HELPED BY A BRITISH JOURNALIST.
I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN BRITISH JOURNALIST.
I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THE INSPIRATION FOR THE I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THE INSPIRATION FOR THE FILM.
WITH THE INSPIRATION FOR THE FILM.
SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVEN'T FILM.
SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET WE DO SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET WE DO GIVEAWAY A COUPLE OF KEY PLOT SEEN THE MOVIE YET WE DO GIVEAWAY A COUPLE OF KEY PLOT POINTS.
GIVEAWAY A COUPLE OF KEY PLOT POINTS.
THE MOVIE STARRING JUDY DENCH AS POINTS.
THE MOVIE STARRING JUDY DENCH AS THE TITLED CHARACTER HAS THE MOVIE STARRING JUDY DENCH AS THE TITLED CHARACTER HAS FICTIONALIZED SOME AREAS.
THE TITLED CHARACTER HAS FICTIONALIZED SOME AREAS.
BUT NOW IT PUTS A SPOTLIGHT ON FICTIONALIZED SOME AREAS.
BUT NOW IT PUTS A SPOTLIGHT ON THOUSANDS OF CATHOLIC UNWED BUT NOW IT PUTS A SPOTLIGHT ON THOUSANDS OF CATHOLIC UNWED MOTHERS IN IRELAND THAT CARRY THOUSANDS OF CATHOLIC UNWED MOTHERS IN IRELAND THAT CARRY GUILT AND SHAME HALF A CENTURY MOTHERS IN IRELAND THAT CARRY GUILT AND SHAME HALF A CENTURY LATER.
GUILT AND SHAME HALF A CENTURY LATER.
>> YOU GOT TO REMEMBER IN 1952, LATER.
>> YOU GOT TO REMEMBER IN 1952, VERY EARLY '50s, IRELAND WAS >> YOU GOT TO REMEMBER IN 1952, VERY EARLY '50s, IRELAND WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEN.
VERY EARLY '50s, IRELAND WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEN.
YOU KNOW TO NOW, NOWADAYS.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEN.
YOU KNOW TO NOW, NOWADAYS.
I ENDED UP BECOMING PREGNANT.
YOU KNOW TO NOW, NOWADAYS.
I ENDED UP BECOMING PREGNANT.
IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS THE MOST I ENDED UP BECOMING PREGNANT.
IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS THE MOST AWFUL THING TO BE PREGNANT OUT IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS THE MOST AWFUL THING TO BE PREGNANT OUT OF WEDLOCK.
AWFUL THING TO BE PREGNANT OUT OF WEDLOCK.
>> SHE WAS EDUCATED BY NUNS AND OF WEDLOCK.
>> SHE WAS EDUCATED BY NUNS AND WAS IGNORANT WHEN SHE GOT >> SHE WAS EDUCATED BY NUNS AND WAS IGNORANT WHEN SHE GOT PREGNANT.
WAS IGNORANT WHEN SHE GOT PREGNANT.
HER FAMILY DISOWNED HER AND SHE PREGNANT.
HER FAMILY DISOWNED HER AND SHE WAS SENT TO A CONVENT HOME FOR HER FAMILY DISOWNED HER AND SHE WAS SENT TO A CONVENT HOME FOR MOTHERS AND BABIES.
WAS SENT TO A CONVENT HOME FOR MOTHERS AND BABIES.
>> IN MY RELIGION THEN IT WAS A MOTHERS AND BABIES.
>> IN MY RELIGION THEN IT WAS A VERY SERIOUS MORTAL SIN.
>> IN MY RELIGION THEN IT WAS A VERY SERIOUS MORTAL SIN.
FAMILIES WERE SHAMED AS WELL.
VERY SERIOUS MORTAL SIN.
FAMILIES WERE SHAMED AS WELL.
>> SHE STAYED AT THE ABBEY FOR FAMILIES WERE SHAMED AS WELL.
>> SHE STAYED AT THE ABBEY FOR 3 1/2 YEARS.
>> SHE STAYED AT THE ABBEY FOR 3 1/2 YEARS.
SHE SAYS SOME OF THE NUNS WERE 3 1/2 YEARS.
SHE SAYS SOME OF THE NUNS WERE HARSH BUT OTHERS WERE KIND, SHE SAYS SOME OF THE NUNS WERE HARSH BUT OTHERS WERE KIND, INCLUDING THE ONE WHO ALERTED HARSH BUT OTHERS WERE KIND, INCLUDING THE ONE WHO ALERTED HER JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS THAT INCLUDING THE ONE WHO ALERTED HER JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS THAT ANTHONY WAS BEING TAKEN AWAY.
HER JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS THAT ANTHONY WAS BEING TAKEN AWAY.
>> I RAN UP THE STAIRS WITH HER ANTHONY WAS BEING TAKEN AWAY.
>> I RAN UP THE STAIRS WITH HER AND LOOKED TOUT WINDOW WITH HER >> I RAN UP THE STAIRS WITH HER AND LOOKED TOUT WINDOW WITH HER AND THERE HE IS GOING OFF IN THE AND LOOKED TOUT WINDOW WITH HER AND THERE HE IS GOING OFF IN THE CAR AND ALL I COULD SEE IN THE AND THERE HE IS GOING OFF IN THE CAR AND ALL I COULD SEE IN THE BACK OF THE WINDOW WAS HIS FACE.
CAR AND ALL I COULD SEE IN THE BACK OF THE WINDOW WAS HIS FACE.
THAT'S MY ONE MEMORY THAT I BACK OF THE WINDOW WAS HIS FACE.
THAT'S MY ONE MEMORY THAT I NEVER EVER, NEVER EVER WILL THAT'S MY ONE MEMORY THAT I NEVER EVER, NEVER EVER WILL FORGET.
NEVER EVER, NEVER EVER WILL FORGET.
>> THEY TOLD HER HE WAS GOING TO FORGET.
>> THEY TOLD HER HE WAS GOING TO A GOOD CATHOLIC HOME IN AMERICA >> THEY TOLD HER HE WAS GOING TO A GOOD CATHOLIC HOME IN AMERICA BUT SHE WAS DEVASTATED.
A GOOD CATHOLIC HOME IN AMERICA BUT SHE WAS DEVASTATED.
>> BY LITTLE LOVELY BOY WAS BUT SHE WAS DEVASTATED.
>> BY LITTLE LOVELY BOY WAS GONE.
>> BY LITTLE LOVELY BOY WAS GONE.
I WAS SO UPSET, ANGRY, CRYING GONE.
I WAS SO UPSET, ANGRY, CRYING ALL OVER CHRISTMAS I COULDN'T I WAS SO UPSET, ANGRY, CRYING ALL OVER CHRISTMAS I COULDN'T STOP, COULDN'T EAT.
ALL OVER CHRISTMAS I COULDN'T STOP, COULDN'T EAT.
THE NUNS, THEY GOT FED UP WITH STOP, COULDN'T EAT.
THE NUNS, THEY GOT FED UP WITH ME, I THINK.
THE NUNS, THEY GOT FED UP WITH ME, I THINK.
SAYING I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL HE ME, I THINK.
SAYING I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL HE WENT TO A GOOD HOME.
SAYING I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL HE WENT TO A GOOD HOME.
>> AFTER SHE LEFT THE ABBEY SHE WENT TO A GOOD HOME.
>> AFTER SHE LEFT THE ABBEY SHE WENT ON THE BECOME A PSYCHIATRIC >> AFTER SHE LEFT THE ABBEY SHE WENT ON THE BECOME A PSYCHIATRIC NURSE.
WENT ON THE BECOME A PSYCHIATRIC NURSE.
GOT HEARD HAD A DAUGHTER JANE NURSE.
GOT HEARD HAD A DAUGHTER JANE AND ANOTHER SON.
GOT HEARD HAD A DAUGHTER JANE AND ANOTHER SON.
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO SHE TOLD AND ANOTHER SON.
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO SHE TOLD JANE ABOUT ANTHONY.
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO SHE TOLD JANE ABOUT ANTHONY.
>> I SAID DO YOU WANT ME TO FIND JANE ABOUT ANTHONY.
>> I SAID DO YOU WANT ME TO FIND HIM?
>> I SAID DO YOU WANT ME TO FIND HIM?
AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU WENT HIM?
AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU WENT NO, AGAIN THE SAME, THE SHAME.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU WENT NO, AGAIN THE SAME, THE SHAME.
IT HAD BEEN SUCH A SECRET.
NO, AGAIN THE SAME, THE SHAME.
IT HAD BEEN SUCH A SECRET.
THEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN.
IT HAD BEEN SUCH A SECRET.
THEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN.
>> SHE UNCOVERED SOME DETAILS THEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN.
>> SHE UNCOVERED SOME DETAILS BUT SAID THEY WERE STONEWALLED >> SHE UNCOVERED SOME DETAILS BUT SAID THEY WERE STONEWALLED BY NUNS AT THE ABBEY WHO REFUSED BUT SAID THEY WERE STONEWALLED BY NUNS AT THE ABBEY WHO REFUSED TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION.
BY NUNS AT THE ABBEY WHO REFUSED TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION.
EVENTUALLY THEY CONNECTED WITH A TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION.
EVENTUALLY THEY CONNECTED WITH A JOURNALIST WHO HELPED FIND MORE EVENTUALLY THEY CONNECTED WITH A JOURNALIST WHO HELPED FIND MORE ANSWERS.
JOURNALIST WHO HELPED FIND MORE ANSWERS.
>> NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.
ANSWERS.
>> NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.
I WONDER WHETHER ANTHONY WAS IN >> NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.
I WONDER WHETHER ANTHONY WAS IN TROUBLE OR IN PRISON.
I WONDER WHETHER ANTHONY WAS IN TROUBLE OR IN PRISON.
I DIDN'T KNOW.
TROUBLE OR IN PRISON.
I DIDN'T KNOW.
I COULD ALWAYS HOPE HE WAS HAPPY I DIDN'T KNOW.
I COULD ALWAYS HOPE HE WAS HAPPY SOMEWHERE.
I COULD ALWAYS HOPE HE WAS HAPPY SOMEWHERE.
>> THEY LEARNED ANTHONY WHOSE SOMEWHERE.
>> THEY LEARNED ANTHONY WHOSE ADOPTED NAME WAS MICHAEL HESS >> THEY LEARNED ANTHONY WHOSE ADOPTED NAME WAS MICHAEL HESS HAD BECOME A HIGH POWERED LAWYER ADOPTED NAME WAS MICHAEL HESS HAD BECOME A HIGH POWERED LAWYER IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND SADLY HAD BECOME A HIGH POWERED LAWYER IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND SADLY THEY DISCOVERED THAT HE HAD DIED IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND SADLY THEY DISCOVERED THAT HE HAD DIED OF AIDS IN 1995 AND THAT HE HAD THEY DISCOVERED THAT HE HAD DIED OF AIDS IN 1995 AND THAT HE HAD BEEN TRYING TO FIND "PHILOMENA" OF AIDS IN 1995 AND THAT HE HAD BEEN TRYING TO FIND "PHILOMENA" HAS WELL.
BEEN TRYING TO FIND "PHILOMENA" HAS WELL.
>> LOSING HIM THE SECOND TIME HAS WELL.
>> LOSING HIM THE SECOND TIME AGAIN, THAT WAS THE SECOND TIME >> LOSING HIM THE SECOND TIME AGAIN, THAT WAS THE SECOND TIME I LOST HIM.
AGAIN, THAT WAS THE SECOND TIME I LOST HIM.
LEE SAYS AFTER THE YEARS ANTHONY I LOST HIM.
LEE SAYS AFTER THE YEARS ANTHONY WAS TAKEN SHE DID HARBOR SOME LEE SAYS AFTER THE YEARS ANTHONY WAS TAKEN SHE DID HARBOR SOME ANGER AND BITTERNESS WHICH WAS TAKEN SHE DID HARBOR SOME ANGER AND BITTERNESS WHICH CHALLENGED HER RELIGIOUS BELIEF ANGER AND BITTERNESS WHICH CHALLENGED HER RELIGIOUS BELIEF BUT SAYS SHE ULTIMATELY HUNG ON CHALLENGED HER RELIGIOUS BELIEF BUT SAYS SHE ULTIMATELY HUNG ON THE HER FAITH.
BUT SAYS SHE ULTIMATELY HUNG ON THE HER FAITH.
>> I WAS BROUGHT UP WITH NUNS THE HER FAITH.
>> I WAS BROUGHT UP WITH NUNS ALL MY LIFE SO I BELIEVED >> I WAS BROUGHT UP WITH NUNS ALL MY LIFE SO I BELIEVED EVERYTHING WE WERE TOLD.
ALL MY LIFE SO I BELIEVED EVERYTHING WE WERE TOLD.
THAT WAS IT.
EVERYTHING WE WERE TOLD.
THAT WAS IT.
I DID LOSE A LITTLE BIT AFTER I THAT WAS IT.
I DID LOSE A LITTLE BIT AFTER I LEFT WHEN I LOST ANTHONY.
I DID LOSE A LITTLE BIT AFTER I LEFT WHEN I LOST ANTHONY.
HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME.
LEFT WHEN I LOST ANTHONY.
HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME.
BUT, I MEAN THEY WERE DOING WHAT HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME.
BUT, I MEAN THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.
BUT, I MEAN THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.
>> YOU HAD MAINTAINED YOUR THEY THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.
>> YOU HAD MAINTAINED YOUR FAITH?
>> YOU HAD MAINTAINED YOUR FAITH?
>> I HAVE.
FAITH?
>> I HAVE.
VERY MUCH SO.
>> I HAVE.
VERY MUCH SO.
I STILL BELIEVE AND STILL RETAIN VERY MUCH SO.
I STILL BELIEVE AND STILL RETAIN LOT OF MY FAITH.
I STILL BELIEVE AND STILL RETAIN LOT OF MY FAITH.
>> SHE SAYS HER WORK AT THE LOT OF MY FAITH.
>> SHE SAYS HER WORK AT THE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL HELPED HER >> SHE SAYS HER WORK AT THE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL HELPED HER OVERCOME HER BITTERNESS.
PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL HELPED HER OVERCOME HER BITTERNESS.
>> I SAW SO MUCH PAIN AND HURT OVERCOME HER BITTERNESS.
>> I SAW SO MUCH PAIN AND HURT CAUSED THROUGH ANGER IN THE >> I SAW SO MUCH PAIN AND HURT CAUSED THROUGH ANGER IN THE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
CAUSED THROUGH ANGER IN THE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS SOME THAT PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS SOME THAT WERE SO TRAGIC AND SO SAD THAT I IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS SOME THAT WERE SO TRAGIC AND SO SAD THAT I GRADUALLY PUT MY OWN ANGER WERE SO TRAGIC AND SO SAD THAT I GRADUALLY PUT MY OWN ANGER BEHIND ME AND GRADUALLY THOUGHT GRADUALLY PUT MY OWN ANGER BEHIND ME AND GRADUALLY THOUGHT THERE'S NO GOOD TO KEEP THIS UP.
BEHIND ME AND GRADUALLY THOUGHT THERE'S NO GOOD TO KEEP THIS UP.
IT HAPPENED 60, 70 YEARS AGO.
THERE'S NO GOOD TO KEEP THIS UP.
IT HAPPENED 60, 70 YEARS AGO.
SO YOU CAN'T GO -- I COULDN'T GO IT HAPPENED 60, 70 YEARS AGO.
SO YOU CAN'T GO -- I COULDN'T GO THROUGH LIFE BEING ANGRY.
SO YOU CAN'T GO -- I COULDN'T GO THROUGH LIFE BEING ANGRY.
>> BUT FOR JANE IT'S MORE THROUGH LIFE BEING ANGRY.
>> BUT FOR JANE IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GLOET.
>> BUT FOR JANE IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GLOET.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE NOT USE MY DIFFICULT TO GLOET.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE NOT USE MY REAL NAME.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE NOT USE MY REAL NAME.
CALL ME NANCY.
REAL NAME.
CALL ME NANCY.
I ALWAYS LOVED THAT NAME.
CALL ME NANCY.
I ALWAYS LOVED THAT NAME.
NANCY.
I ALWAYS LOVED THAT NAME.
NANCY.
I HAVE A NIECE CALLED NANCY.
NANCY.
I HAVE A NIECE CALLED NANCY.
MAYBE THEY THINK IT'S HER.
I HAVE A NIECE CALLED NANCY.
MAYBE THEY THINK IT'S HER.
>> LEE SAID SHE WAS RELUCTANT TO MAYBE THEY THINK IT'S HER.
>> LEE SAID SHE WAS RELUCTANT TO GO PUBLIC WITH HER STORY.
>> LEE SAID SHE WAS RELUCTANT TO GO PUBLIC WITH HER STORY.
>> IT'S A SHAME OF IT ALL.
GO PUBLIC WITH HER STORY.
>> IT'S A SHAME OF IT ALL.
IT WAS TERRIBLE.
>> IT'S A SHAME OF IT ALL.
IT WAS TERRIBLE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS IT WAS TERRIBLE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS LIKE IN THOSE FACE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS LIKE IN THOSE FACE.
ANYWAY I SAID NO, PERHAPS MAYBE LIKE IN THOSE FACE.
ANYWAY I SAID NO, PERHAPS MAYBE IF I COME UP WITH MY STORY MAYBE ANYWAY I SAID NO, PERHAPS MAYBE IF I COME UP WITH MY STORY MAYBE WE'LL HELP OTHER WOMEN THAT WERE IF I COME UP WITH MY STORY MAYBE WE'LL HELP OTHER WOMEN THAT WERE LIKE ME, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE WE'LL HELP OTHER WOMEN THAT WERE LIKE ME, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE GET THE COURAGE TO COME OUT AND LIKE ME, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE GET THE COURAGE TO COME OUT AND TRY AND FIND THEIR CHILDREN AS GET THE COURAGE TO COME OUT AND TRY AND FIND THEIR CHILDREN AS WELL.
TRY AND FIND THEIR CHILDREN AS WELL.
>> SOME CRITICS HAVE OBJECTED TO WELL.
>> SOME CRITICS HAVE OBJECTED TO THE WAY NUNS IN THE FILM WERE >> SOME CRITICS HAVE OBJECTED TO THE WAY NUNS IN THE FILM WERE PORTRAYED ESPECIALLY IN HOW THEY THE WAY NUNS IN THE FILM WERE PORTRAYED ESPECIALLY IN HOW THEY REFUSED TO RELEASE INFORMATION PORTRAYED ESPECIALLY IN HOW THEY REFUSED TO RELEASE INFORMATION TO EITHER "PHILOMENA" OR REFUSED TO RELEASE INFORMATION TO EITHER "PHILOMENA" OR ANTHONY.
TO EITHER "PHILOMENA" OR ANTHONY.
BUT LEE SAID THE STORY IS NOT ANTHONY.
BUT LEE SAID THE STORY IS NOT MEANT TO BE AN ATTACK ON THE BUT LEE SAID THE STORY IS NOT MEANT TO BE AN ATTACK ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
MEANT TO BE AN ATTACK ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
>> THE NUNS TOOK YOU IN AND TOOK CATHOLIC CHURCH.
>> THE NUNS TOOK YOU IN AND TOOK CARE OF YOU.
>> THE NUNS TOOK YOU IN AND TOOK CARE OF YOU.
THEY WERE -- THEY MAY HAVE BEEN CARE OF YOU.
THEY WERE -- THEY MAY HAVE BEEN THE SOLUTION AT THAT TIME BUT THEY WERE -- THEY MAY HAVE BEEN THE SOLUTION AT THAT TIME BUT THE CHURCH ITSELF WAS ALSO PART THE SOLUTION AT THAT TIME BUT THE CHURCH ITSELF WAS ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM.
THE CHURCH ITSELF WAS ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM.
BUT IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE OF THE PROBLEM.
BUT IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE AN ANTI-CATHOLIC FILM.
BUT IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE AN ANTI-CATHOLIC FILM.
I DON'T THINK IT IS.
AN ANTI-CATHOLIC FILM.
I DON'T THINK IT IS.
THE WAY JUDY PLAYS YOUR I DON'T THINK IT IS.
THE WAY JUDY PLAYS YOUR CHARACTER THROUGHOUT FILM IT THE WAY JUDY PLAYS YOUR CHARACTER THROUGHOUT FILM IT SHOWS YOU RETAINED YOUR FAITH CHARACTER THROUGHOUT FILM IT SHOWS YOU RETAINED YOUR FAITH ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.
SHOWS YOU RETAINED YOUR FAITH ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.
>> ON FEBRUARY 5th, THE REAL ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.
>> ON FEBRUARY 5th, THE REAL LIFE STORY WAS BROUGHT TO THE >> ON FEBRUARY 5th, THE REAL LIFE STORY WAS BROUGHT TO THE VATICAN WHERE THEY HAD A CHANCE LIFE STORY WAS BROUGHT TO THE VATICAN WHERE THEY HAD A CHANCE TO MEET POPE FRANCIS.
VATICAN WHERE THEY HAD A CHANCE TO MEET POPE FRANCIS.
>> I FEEL SO FORGIVEN ALL THEM TO MEET POPE FRANCIS.
>> I FEEL SO FORGIVEN ALL THEM YEARS AGO.
>> I FEEL SO FORGIVEN ALL THEM YEARS AGO.
IT WAS AWFUL TO HAVE A BABY OUT YEARS AGO.
IT WAS AWFUL TO HAVE A BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK.
IT WAS AWFUL TO HAVE A BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK.
MADE ME FEEL SO GOOD INSIDE.
OF WEDLOCK.
MADE ME FEEL SO GOOD INSIDE.
>> THEY HAVE NOW TEAMED UP WITH MADE ME FEEL SO GOOD INSIDE.
>> THEY HAVE NOW TEAMED UP WITH THE ADOPTION RIGHTS ALLIANCE TO >> THEY HAVE NOW TEAMED UP WITH THE ADOPTION RIGHTS ALLIANCE TO LAUNCH THE "PHILOMENA" PROJECT THE ADOPTION RIGHTS ALLIANCE TO LAUNCH THE "PHILOMENA" PROJECT WHICH URGES CHURCHES IN THE LAUNCH THE "PHILOMENA" PROJECT WHICH URGES CHURCHES IN THE IRISH GOVERNMENT TO OPEN UP WHICH URGES CHURCHES IN THE IRISH GOVERNMENT TO OPEN UP ADOPTION RECORDS WHICH ARE STILL IRISH GOVERNMENT TO OPEN UP ADOPTION RECORDS WHICH ARE STILL BY LAW CLOSED.
ADOPTION RECORDS WHICH ARE STILL BY LAW CLOSED.
>> ULTIMATELY WE HOPE THAT IT BY LAW CLOSED.
>> ULTIMATELY WE HOPE THAT IT MIGHT HELP CHANGE THE >> ULTIMATELY WE HOPE THAT IT MIGHT HELP CHANGE THE LEGISLATION IN IRELAND BECAUSE MIGHT HELP CHANGE THE LEGISLATION IN IRELAND BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ANY LEGISLATION IN IRELAND BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ANY INFORMATION.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ANY INFORMATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE AN AUTOMATIC INFORMATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE IF YOU'RE ADOPTED.
RIGHT TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE IF YOU'RE ADOPTED.
>> ALTHOUGH HER OWN STORY YOU'RE ADOPTED.
>> ALTHOUGH HER OWN STORY DIDN'T HAVE THE HAPPEN ENDING >> ALTHOUGH HER OWN STORY DIDN'T HAVE THE HAPPEN ENDING SHE HOPED FOR SHE SAYS SHE TAKES DIDN'T HAVE THE HAPPEN ENDING SHE HOPED FOR SHE SAYS SHE TAKES COMFORT IN KNOWING ANTHONY ASKED SHE HOPED FOR SHE SAYS SHE TAKES COMFORT IN KNOWING ANTHONY ASKED TO BE BURIED BY THE ABBEY WHERE COMFORT IN KNOWING ANTHONY ASKED TO BE BURIED BY THE ABBEY WHERE HE WAS BORN IN HOPES ONE DAY HIS TO BE BURIED BY THE ABBEY WHERE HE WAS BORN IN HOPES ONE DAY HIS MOTHER WOULD FIND HIM.
HE WAS BORN IN HOPES ONE DAY HIS MOTHER WOULD FIND HIM.
>> I KNOW A SAD WAY TO FIND MOTHER WOULD FIND HIM.
>> I KNOW A SAD WAY TO FIND HIM, HE DIED.
>> I KNOW A SAD WAY TO FIND HIM, HE DIED.
BUT KNOWING THAT HE DID SO HIM, HE DIED.
BUT KNOWING THAT HE DID SO SPRATTLY -- DESPERATELY TRIED TO BUT KNOWING THAT HE DID SO SPRATTLY -- DESPERATELY TRIED TO FIND ME.
SPRATTLY -- DESPERATELY TRIED TO FIND ME.
I KNOW HE'S WATCHING OVER ME.
FIND ME.
I KNOW HE'S WATCHING OVER ME.
>>> ON OUR CALENDAR SATURDAY IS I KNOW HE'S WATCHING OVER ME.
>>> ON OUR CALENDAR SATURDAY IS A TIBETAN NEW YEAR.
>>> ON OUR CALENDAR SATURDAY IS A TIBETAN NEW YEAR.
ON SUNDAY THE 19 DAY FAST WHEN A TIBETAN NEW YEAR.
ON SUNDAY THE 19 DAY FAST WHEN THEY ABSTAIN FROM FOOD AND ON SUNDAY THE 19 DAY FAST WHEN THEY ABSTAIN FROM FOOD AND WATER.
THEY ABSTAIN FROM FOOD AND WATER.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER EASTERN WATER.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER EASTERN AND WESTERN CHRISTIANS BEGIN THE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER EASTERN AND WESTERN CHRISTIANS BEGIN THE OBSERVANCE OF LENT IN THE AND WESTERN CHRISTIANS BEGIN THE OBSERVANCE OF LENT IN THE EASTERN TRADITION GREAT LENT OBSERVANCE OF LENT IN THE EASTERN TRADITION GREAT LENT BEGINS WITH CLEAN MONDAY.
EASTERN TRADITION GREAT LENT BEGINS WITH CLEAN MONDAY.
FOR WESTERN CHRISTIANS LENT BEGINS WITH CLEAN MONDAY.
FOR WESTERN CHRISTIANS LENT BEGINS ON WEDNESDAY, ASH FOR WESTERN CHRISTIANS LENT BEGINS ON WEDNESDAY, ASH WEDNESDAY WHEN THEY BEGINS ON WEDNESDAY, ASH WEDNESDAY WHEN THEY TRADITIONALLY RECEIVE A MARK OF WEDNESDAY WHEN THEY TRADITIONALLY RECEIVE A MARK OF ASHES AS A SIGN OF PENTINENCE TRADITIONALLY RECEIVE A MARK OF ASHES AS A SIGN OF PENTINENCE AND HUMAN MORTALITY.
ASHES AS A SIGN OF PENTINENCE AND HUMAN MORTALITY.
IN AMERICA IT'S A GROWING AND HUMAN MORTALITY.
IN AMERICA IT'S A GROWING TRADITION OF TAKE TOOK THE IN AMERICA IT'S A GROWING TRADITION OF TAKE TOOK THE STREET.
TRADITION OF TAKE TOOK THE STREET.
WE FOLLOWED ALONG LAST YEAR AS STREET.
WE FOLLOWED ALONG LAST YEAR AS WASHINGTON, D.C. EPISCOPAL WE FOLLOWED ALONG LAST YEAR AS WASHINGTON, D.C. EPISCOPAL LEADERS DISTRIBUTED ASHES AT K WASHINGTON, D.C. EPISCOPAL LEADERS DISTRIBUTED ASHES AT K STREET.
LEADERS DISTRIBUTED ASHES AT K STREET.
>> ASHES ON ASH WEDNESDAY TO STREET.
>> ASHES ON ASH WEDNESDAY TO COMMUTERS AND NEIGHBORS HERE IN >> ASHES ON ASH WEDNESDAY TO COMMUTERS AND NEIGHBORS HERE IN FOGGY BOTTOM AND STUDENTS AT COMMUTERS AND NEIGHBORS HERE IN FOGGY BOTTOM AND STUDENTS AT GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY TO FOGGY BOTTOM AND STUDENTS AT GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY TO REMIND THEM THAT IT'S THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY TO REMIND THEM THAT IT'S THE BEGINNING OF LENT AND A VERY REMIND THEM THAT IT'S THE BEGINNING OF LENT AND A VERY HOLY DAY AND SPECIAL DAY.
BEGINNING OF LENT AND A VERY HOLY DAY AND SPECIAL DAY.
REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE DUST AND HOLY DAY AND SPECIAL DAY.
REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE DUST AND TO DUST YOU RETURN.
REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE DUST AND TO DUST YOU RETURN.
YOU ARE LOVED BY GOD.
TO DUST YOU RETURN.
YOU ARE LOVED BY GOD.
IT'S A REMINDER OF OUR MORTALITY YOU ARE LOVED BY GOD.
IT'S A REMINDER OF OUR MORTALITY AND INVITATION TO OBSERVE LENT IT'S A REMINDER OF OUR MORTALITY AND INVITATION TO OBSERVE LENT BOTH INDIVIDUALLY AND IN AND INVITATION TO OBSERVE LENT BOTH INDIVIDUALLY AND IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH.
BOTH INDIVIDUALLY AND IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH.
WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF GRATITUDE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH.
WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF GRATITUDE FROM PEOPLE.
WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF GRATITUDE FROM PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT STRUCK ME.
FROM PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT STRUCK ME.
A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAD TEARS IN THAT'S WHAT STRUCK ME.
A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAD TEARS IN THEIR EYES THAT THEY RECEIVED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAD TEARS IN THEIR EYES THAT THEY RECEIVED THE ASHES AND A BLESSING.
THEIR EYES THAT THEY RECEIVED THE ASHES AND A BLESSING.
AND JUST HERE TO MAKE A WITNESS THE ASHES AND A BLESSING.
AND JUST HERE TO MAKE A WITNESS TO LOVE OF GOD AND CHRIST.
AND JUST HERE TO MAKE A WITNESS TO LOVE OF GOD AND CHRIST.
>>> IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO TO LOVE OF GOD AND CHRIST.
>>> IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE SOMBERNESS OF LENT MANY >>> IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE SOMBERNESS OF LENT MANY PLACES AROUND THE WORLD HOLD THE SOMBERNESS OF LENT MANY PLACES AROUND THE WORLD HOLD FESTIVE PARTIES OFTEN WITH PLACES AROUND THE WORLD HOLD FESTIVE PARTIES OFTEN WITH COSTUMES.
FESTIVE PARTIES OFTEN WITH COSTUMES.
IN ITALY THIS WEEK ONE SMALL BOY COSTUMES.
IN ITALY THIS WEEK ONE SMALL BOY WORE HIS COSTUME TO St. PETER IN ITALY THIS WEEK ONE SMALL BOY WORE HIS COSTUME TO St. PETER SQUARE TO A GENERAL AUDIENCE WORE HIS COSTUME TO St. PETER SQUARE TO A GENERAL AUDIENCE WITH POPE FRANCIS.
SQUARE TO A GENERAL AUDIENCE WITH POPE FRANCIS.
THE POPE SEEMED AMUSED IN WITH POPE FRANCIS.
THE POPE SEEMED AMUSED IN MEETING MINI ME.
THE POPE SEEMED AMUSED IN MEETING MINI ME.
THE LITTLE BOY NOT SO MUCH.
MEETING MINI ME.
THE LITTLE BOY NOT SO MUCH.
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR NOW.
THE LITTLE BOY NOT SO MUCH.
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR NOW.
I'M KIM LAWSON.
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR NOW.
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