01/10/2014 | 25m 40s | Video has closed captioning.
What do low-income women need to succeed? Writer Amanda Hess on why online misogyny is the next civil rights issue. Professor Lynne Segal's book says ageism is the new frontier of feminism. PANELISTS: Democratic Commentator Megan Beyer, Heritage Foundation’s Genevieve Wood, Progressive Commentator Patricia Sosa, Red Alert Politics Editor Francesca Chambers
Aired: 01/10/14
>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, THE NEW FACE OF POVERTY.
CONTRARY" FIRST, THE NEW FACE OF POVERTY.
THEN, WOMEN TARGETED BY FIRST, THE NEW FACE OF POVERTY.
THEN, WOMEN TARGETED BY HORRENDOUS ONLINE ABUSE.
THEN, WOMEN TARGETED BY HORRENDOUS ONLINE ABUSE.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: AGEISM, HORRENDOUS ONLINE ABUSE.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: AGEISM, THE NEXT FRONTIER IN FEMINISM?
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: AGEISM, THE NEXT FRONTIER IN FEMINISM?
HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
THE NEXT FRONTIER IN FEMINISM?
HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, POVERTY.
PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, POVERTY.
ON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE UP FIRST, POVERTY.
ON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE "WAR ON POVERTY," THE WAR RAGES ON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE "WAR ON POVERTY," THE WAR RAGES ON.
"WAR ON POVERTY," THE WAR RAGES ON.
TODAY'S FACE OF POVERTY IS ON.
TODAY'S FACE OF POVERTY IS FEMALE.
TODAY'S FACE OF POVERTY IS FEMALE.
WHILE THE PERCENTAGE OF FEMALE.
WHILE THE PERCENTAGE OF AMERICANS LIVING BENEATH THE WHILE THE PERCENTAGE OF AMERICANS LIVING BENEATH THE POVERTY LINE HAS DECLINED, AMERICANS LIVING BENEATH THE POVERTY LINE HAS DECLINED, NEARLY 70% OF THE 100 MILLION POVERTY LINE HAS DECLINED, NEARLY 70% OF THE 100 MILLION AMERICANS LIVING IN OR ON THE NEARLY 70% OF THE 100 MILLION AMERICANS LIVING IN OR ON THE BRINK OF POVERTY ARE WOMEN AND AMERICANS LIVING IN OR ON THE BRINK OF POVERTY ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
BRINK OF POVERTY ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
SINGLE MOTHERS ARE TWICE AS CHILDREN.
SINGLE MOTHERS ARE TWICE AS LIKELY TO BE POOR AS SINGLE SINGLE MOTHERS ARE TWICE AS LIKELY TO BE POOR AS SINGLE FATHERS AND WOMEN MAKE UP ALMOST LIKELY TO BE POOR AS SINGLE FATHERS AND WOMEN MAKE UP ALMOST TWO-THIRDS OF MINIMUM WAGE FATHERS AND WOMEN MAKE UP ALMOST TWO-THIRDS OF MINIMUM WAGE EARNERS.
TWO-THIRDS OF MINIMUM WAGE EARNERS.
SO, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
EARNERS.
SO, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
A POLL OF LOW-INCOME WOMEN MAY SO, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
A POLL OF LOW-INCOME WOMEN MAY REVEAL SOME ANSWERS.
A POLL OF LOW-INCOME WOMEN MAY REVEAL SOME ANSWERS.
THE SHRIVER REPORT FOUND REVEAL SOME ANSWERS.
THE SHRIVER REPORT FOUND THREE-QUARTERS WOULD HAVE LIKED THE SHRIVER REPORT FOUND THREE-QUARTERS WOULD HAVE LIKED TO PUT A GREATER EMPHASIS ON THREE-QUARTERS WOULD HAVE LIKED TO PUT A GREATER EMPHASIS ON EDUCATION AND CAREERS THAN TO PUT A GREATER EMPHASIS ON EDUCATION AND CAREERS THAN BEFORE.
EDUCATION AND CAREERS THAN BEFORE.
ALMOST 90% OF WOMEN SURVEYED SAY BEFORE.
ALMOST 90% OF WOMEN SURVEYED SAY PAID SICK LEAVE WOULD BE "VERY ALMOST 90% OF WOMEN SURVEYED SAY PAID SICK LEAVE WOULD BE "VERY USEFUL."
PAID SICK LEAVE WOULD BE "VERY USEFUL."
AND WHILE SOME CONSERVATIVES USEFUL."
AND WHILE SOME CONSERVATIVES FAVOR PROMOTING MARRIAGE, THE AND WHILE SOME CONSERVATIVES FAVOR PROMOTING MARRIAGE, THE MAJORITY OF THE LOW-INCOME FAVOR PROMOTING MARRIAGE, THE MAJORITY OF THE LOW-INCOME WOMEN POLLED REGRETTED GETTING MAJORITY OF THE LOW-INCOME WOMEN POLLED REGRETTED GETTING MARRIED WHEN THEY DID.
WOMEN POLLED REGRETTED GETTING MARRIED WHEN THEY DID.
PATRICIA SOSA MARRIED WHEN THEY DID.
PATRICIA SOSA WHAT SHOULD A NEW WAR LOOK LIKE.
PATRICIA SOSA WHAT SHOULD A NEW WAR LOOK LIKE.
>> STOP THE WAR AGAINST POOR WHAT SHOULD A NEW WAR LOOK LIKE.
>> STOP THE WAR AGAINST POOR PEOPLE AS ILLUSTRATED IN IN >> STOP THE WAR AGAINST POOR PEOPLE AS ILLUSTRATED IN IN COMMITMENT.
PEOPLE AS ILLUSTRATED IN IN COMMITMENT.
THINKING OF ENGINES OF ECONOMIC COMMITMENT.
THINKING OF ENGINES OF ECONOMIC GROWTH NOT WORKING WOMEN AS THINKING OF ENGINES OF ECONOMIC GROWTH NOT WORKING WOMEN AS PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT TAKING GROWTH NOT WORKING WOMEN AS PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
>> PROMOTING WORK, PREPARING FAMILIES.
>> PROMOTING WORK, PREPARING PEOPLE FOR WORK AND UPHOLDING >> PROMOTING WORK, PREPARING PEOPLE FOR WORK AND UPHOLDING MARRIAGE ARE NUMBER ONE FIGHT PEOPLE FOR WORK AND UPHOLDING MARRIAGE ARE NUMBER ONE FIGHT AGAINST POVERTY.
MARRIAGE ARE NUMBER ONE FIGHT AGAINST POVERTY.
>> I LIKE SENATOR GILLIBRAND IS AGAINST POVERTY.
>> I LIKE SENATOR GILLIBRAND IS RAISING MINIMUM WAGE, FAMILY AND >> I LIKE SENATOR GILLIBRAND IS RAISING MINIMUM WAGE, FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE.
RAISING MINIMUM WAGE, FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE.
IT'S WALKING THE WALK ON EQUAL MEDICAL LEAVE.
IT'S WALKING THE WALK ON EQUAL PAY.
IT'S WALKING THE WALK ON EQUAL PAY.
EXPANDING PRE-K GIVING PAY.
EXPANDING PRE-K GIVING INCENTIVES FOR CHILD CARE.
EXPANDING PRE-K GIVING INCENTIVES FOR CHILD CARE.
>> WITH UNITED STATES NEEDS IS INCENTIVES FOR CHILD CARE.
>> WITH UNITED STATES NEEDS IS NOT LONG TERM BENEFITS FOR THE >> WITH UNITED STATES NEEDS IS NOT LONG TERM BENEFITS FOR THE UNEMPLOYED, THEY NEED LONG TERM NOT LONG TERM BENEFITS FOR THE UNEMPLOYED, THEY NEED LONG TERM SOLUTIONS FOR THE UNEMPLOYED AND UNEMPLOYED, THEY NEED LONG TERM SOLUTIONS FOR THE UNEMPLOYED AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE SOLUTIONS FOR THE UNEMPLOYED AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE WAR ON POVERTY.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE WAR ON POVERTY.
>> LET'S FIRST GET TO THE WAR ON WAR ON POVERTY.
>> LET'S FIRST GET TO THE WAR ON POVERTY, STARTED IN '64, VERY >> LET'S FIRST GET TO THE WAR ON POVERTY, STARTED IN '64, VERY DIFFERENT COUNTRY, VERY POVERTY, STARTED IN '64, VERY DIFFERENT COUNTRY, VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION.
DIFFERENT COUNTRY, VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION.
WHY IS POVERTY -- WE'VE MADE DIFFERENT SITUATION.
WHY IS POVERTY -- WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS DOWN FROM 19% TO WHY IS POVERTY -- WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS DOWN FROM 19% TO 15%.
SOME PROGRESS DOWN FROM 19% TO 15%.
BUT WHY STILL 15%.
15%.
BUT WHY STILL 15%.
WHAT'S WRONG?
BUT WHY STILL 15%.
WHAT'S WRONG?
>> A FEW FACTS ON THE TABLE, BUT WHAT'S WRONG?
>> A FEW FACTS ON THE TABLE, BUT WE SPENT $20 TRILLION IN THE WAR >> A FEW FACTS ON THE TABLE, BUT WE SPENT $20 TRILLION IN THE WAR ON POVERTY.
WE SPENT $20 TRILLION IN THE WAR ON POVERTY.
WHILE WE'VE MADE A BENT IN SOME ON POVERTY.
WHILE WE'VE MADE A BENT IN SOME SCENARIOS WE HAVE MORE WOMEN WHILE WE'VE MADE A BENT IN SOME SCENARIOS WE HAVE MORE WOMEN TODAY IN POVERTY AND YOUNG SCENARIOS WE HAVE MORE WOMEN TODAY IN POVERTY AND YOUNG CHILDREN.
TODAY IN POVERTY AND YOUNG CHILDREN.
AND REALITY IS, IT'S NOT JUST CHILDREN.
AND REALITY IS, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HANDING OUT THINGS.
AND REALITY IS, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HANDING OUT THINGS.
LBJ HAD A WORTHY GOAL.
ABOUT HANDING OUT THINGS.
LBJ HAD A WORTHY GOAL.
BUT HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT LBJ HAD A WORTHY GOAL.
BUT HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT CREATING CAPACITY FOR BUT HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT CREATING CAPACITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY CREATING CAPACITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GET JOBS.
INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GET JOBS.
IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A TO GET JOBS.
IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A LIFE LONG CYCLE.
IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A LIFE LONG CYCLE.
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE LIFE LONG CYCLE.
UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE BREAK DOWN OF THE FAMILY HA IS UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE BREAK DOWN OF THE FAMILY HA IS NUMBER ONE INDICATOR OF WHETHER BREAK DOWN OF THE FAMILY HA IS NUMBER ONE INDICATOR OF WHETHER SOMETHING IS GOING TO END UP IN NUMBER ONE INDICATOR OF WHETHER SOMETHING IS GOING TO END UP IN POVERTY MORE THAN THEIR SOMETHING IS GOING TO END UP IN POVERTY MORE THAN THEIR EDUCATION LEVEL, MORE THAN WHAT POVERTY MORE THAN THEIR EDUCATION LEVEL, MORE THAN WHAT THEIR FAMILY BACKGROUND WAS.
EDUCATION LEVEL, MORE THAN WHAT THEIR FAMILY BACKGROUND WAS.
WHETHER INTACT FAMILY.
THEIR FAMILY BACKGROUND WAS.
WHETHER INTACT FAMILY.
MARRIAGE RATES TODAY COMPARED TO WHETHER INTACT FAMILY.
MARRIAGE RATES TODAY COMPARED TO WHERE THEY WERE.
MARRIAGE RATES TODAY COMPARED TO WHERE THEY WERE.
CHILDREN BACK IN THE EARLY '60S, WHERE THEY WERE.
CHILDREN BACK IN THE EARLY '60S, 8% WERE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK.
CHILDREN BACK IN THE EARLY '60S, 8% WERE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK.
TODAY OVER 40% OF CHILDREN ARE 8% WERE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK.
TODAY OVER 40% OF CHILDREN ARE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK.
TODAY OVER 40% OF CHILDREN ARE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK.
IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK.
IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IT'S OVER 70%.
IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IT'S OVER 70%.
WE CAN'T BE TOO SURPRISED WE COMMUNITY IT'S OVER 70%.
WE CAN'T BE TOO SURPRISED WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSES.
WE CAN'T BE TOO SURPRISED WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSES.
SPENDING MORE MONEY OR OTHER HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSES.
SPENDING MORE MONEY OR OTHER THINGS GOING ON AT THE BASE SPENDING MORE MONEY OR OTHER THINGS GOING ON AT THE BASE LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO PAY THINGS GOING ON AT THE BASE LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO?
LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO?
>> I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK ATTENTION TO?
>> I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK HOW WOMEN FACTOR IN TO WHAT >> I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK HOW WOMEN FACTOR IN TO WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR ECONOMY.
HOW WOMEN FACTOR IN TO WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR ECONOMY.
WE SAW PAIR TIME SHIFT FROM THE HAPPENED IN OUR ECONOMY.
WE SAW PAIR TIME SHIFT FROM THE SINGLE BREAD WINNER HOUSEHOLD TO WE SAW PAIR TIME SHIFT FROM THE SINGLE BREAD WINNER HOUSEHOLD TO THE DUAL INCOME HOUSEHOLD.
SINGLE BREAD WINNER HOUSEHOLD TO THE DUAL INCOME HOUSEHOLD.
SAW WOMEN LEAVE THE KITCHEN, GO THE DUAL INCOME HOUSEHOLD.
SAW WOMEN LEAVE THE KITCHEN, GO OUT TO THE WORKFORCE AND THE GDP SAW WOMEN LEAVE THE KITCHEN, GO OUT TO THE WORKFORCE AND THE GDP SPIKED.
OUT TO THE WORKFORCE AND THE GDP SPIKED.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE THE SPIKED.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE THE SLAVES WERE FREED.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE THE SLAVES WERE FREED.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
SLAVES WERE FREED.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
OUR SOCIETY AND OUR ECONOMY HAS >> THAT'S TRUE.
OUR SOCIETY AND OUR ECONOMY HAS BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THESE OUR SOCIETY AND OUR ECONOMY HAS BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THESE WOMEN GOING OUT AND WORKING.
BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THESE WOMEN GOING OUT AND WORKING.
AND THE SAD FIGURES THAT ARE WOMEN GOING OUT AND WORKING.
AND THE SAD FIGURES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THIS SHRIVER AND THE SAD FIGURES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THIS SHRIVER REPORT HOW LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE COMING OUT OF THIS SHRIVER REPORT HOW LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE TO SUPPORT THEM THAT THEY DON'T REPORT HOW LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE TO SUPPORT THEM THAT THEY DON'T EVEN GET PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL TO SUPPORT THEM THAT THEY DON'T EVEN GET PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S EVEN GET PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S ENJOYED ALL THIS GREAT GDP RISE LEAVE FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S ENJOYED ALL THIS GREAT GDP RISE AND COMPANIES DON'T GIVE THEM ENJOYED ALL THIS GREAT GDP RISE AND COMPANIES DON'T GIVE THEM PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE.
AND COMPANIES DON'T GIVE THEM PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE.
GIVE THEM A LOT OF CHILD CARE PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE.
GIVE THEM A LOT OF CHILD CARE SUPPORT.
GIVE THEM A LOT OF CHILD CARE SUPPORT.
ALL OF THESE THINGS WE REALLY SUPPORT.
ALL OF THESE THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT AS ALL OF THESE THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO START LOOKING AT AS CONSUMERS DEALING WITH NEED TO START LOOKING AT AS CONSUMERS DEALING WITH COMPANIES, AS WORKERS WORKING CONSUMERS DEALING WITH COMPANIES, AS WORKERS WORKING FOR COMPANIES.
COMPANIES, AS WORKERS WORKING FOR COMPANIES.
AS GOVERNMENT AND AS EMPLOYERS.
FOR COMPANIES.
AS GOVERNMENT AND AS EMPLOYERS.
WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, THIS AS GOVERNMENT AND AS EMPLOYERS.
WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, THIS ECONOMY HAS MAINTAINED A CERTAIN WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, THIS ECONOMY HAS MAINTAINED A CERTAIN QUALITY BASED ON THESE WOMEN WE ECONOMY HAS MAINTAINED A CERTAIN QUALITY BASED ON THESE WOMEN WE NEED TO STEP UP MAKE SURE THAT QUALITY BASED ON THESE WOMEN WE NEED TO STEP UP MAKE SURE THAT THAT -- YOU DON'T KILL THE NEED TO STEP UP MAKE SURE THAT THAT -- YOU DON'T KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE.
THAT -- YOU DON'T KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE.
>> NOT ONLY A DIFFERENT REALITY GOLDEN GOOSE.
>> NOT ONLY A DIFFERENT REALITY IN TERMS OF THE MODERN -- MOTHER >> NOT ONLY A DIFFERENT REALITY IN TERMS OF THE MODERN -- MOTHER AND FATHER WE HAVE A COMPLETELY IN TERMS OF THE MODERN -- MOTHER AND FATHER WE HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ECONOMY.
AND FATHER WE HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ECONOMY.
HIGH PAYING BLUE COLLAR JOBS ARE DIFFERENT ECONOMY.
HIGH PAYING BLUE COLLAR JOBS ARE NOT THERE ANY MORE WE DON'T HAVE HIGH PAYING BLUE COLLAR JOBS ARE NOT THERE ANY MORE WE DON'T HAVE HAVE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT HAS NOT THERE ANY MORE WE DON'T HAVE HAVE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT HAS TRANSFORMED ITSELF TO TRAIN THE HAVE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT HAS TRANSFORMED ITSELF TO TRAIN THE PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE WOMEN TRANSFORMED ITSELF TO TRAIN THE PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE WOMEN TO TAKE THE HIGHER PAYING JOBS.
PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE WOMEN TO TAKE THE HIGHER PAYING JOBS.
IT'S NOT JUST A ONE -- THE TO TAKE THE HIGHER PAYING JOBS.
IT'S NOT JUST A ONE -- THE SINGLE MOTHER, NOT ONE IT'S NOT JUST A ONE -- THE SINGLE MOTHER, NOT ONE DIMENSIONAL AT ALL.
SINGLE MOTHER, NOT ONE DIMENSIONAL AT ALL.
AND THE UNIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE DIMENSIONAL AT ALL.
AND THE UNIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE NOT AS STRONG.
AND THE UNIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE NOT AS STRONG.
THE UNIONS WERE A MAJOR FORCE IN NOT AS STRONG.
THE UNIONS WERE A MAJOR FORCE IN TERMS OF WEALTH DISTRIBUTION THE UNIONS WERE A MAJOR FORCE IN TERMS OF WEALTH DISTRIBUTION THERE'S A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS TERMS OF WEALTH DISTRIBUTION THERE'S A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED THAT ARE PLAYED AGAINST.
THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED THAT ARE PLAYED AGAINST.
>> THERE HAS BEEN TOTAL BE DONE ARE PLAYED AGAINST.
>> THERE HAS BEEN TOTAL BE DONE SINCE THE WAR ON POVERTY TO HELP >> THERE HAS BEEN TOTAL BE DONE SINCE THE WAR ON POVERTY TO HELP THESE WOMEN.
SINCE THE WAR ON POVERTY TO HELP THESE WOMEN.
SINCE THEN THEY INTRODUCED THESE WOMEN.
SINCE THEN THEY INTRODUCED SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, FOOT SINCE THEN THEY INTRODUCED SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, FOOT STAMPS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED.
SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, FOOT STAMPS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED.
WE SPEND $80 BILLION A YEAR ON STAMPS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED.
WE SPEND $80 BILLION A YEAR ON FOOD STAMPS SURELY SOMETHING WE SPEND $80 BILLION A YEAR ON FOOD STAMPS SURELY SOMETHING THEY DID NOT HAVE BACK IN FOOD STAMPS SURELY SOMETHING THEY DID NOT HAVE BACK IN JOHNSON'S DAY.
THEY DID NOT HAVE BACK IN JOHNSON'S DAY.
YOU HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THE JOHNSON'S DAY.
YOU HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THE OTHER FACTORS, WHAT CAN WE DO YOU HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THE OTHER FACTORS, WHAT CAN WE DO BEYOND GOVERNMENT.
OTHER FACTORS, WHAT CAN WE DO BEYOND GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT SPENDING A LOT OF BEYOND GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ALREADY TO HELP THESE GOVERNMENT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ALREADY TO HELP THESE WOMEN.
MONEY ALREADY TO HELP THESE WOMEN.
>> I WANT TO GOAT BACK TO YOUR WOMEN.
>> I WANT TO GOAT BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MARRIAGE.
>> I WANT TO GOAT BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MARRIAGE.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT A POINT ABOUT MARRIAGE.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT A WOMAN -- A TEENAGER OR WOMEN IN I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT A WOMAN -- A TEENAGER OR WOMEN IN HER TO GO GETS PREGNANT WITHOUT WOMAN -- A TEENAGER OR WOMEN IN HER TO GO GETS PREGNANT WITHOUT A HUSBAND DECIDES TO KEEP THE HER TO GO GETS PREGNANT WITHOUT A HUSBAND DECIDES TO KEEP THE CHILD SETTING HERSELF UP FOR A HUSBAND DECIDES TO KEEP THE CHILD SETTING HERSELF UP FOR LIFE OF POVERTY ESPECIALLY IF CHILD SETTING HERSELF UP FOR LIFE OF POVERTY ESPECIALLY IF SHE'S NOT HAD HER EDUCATION.
LIFE OF POVERTY ESPECIALLY IF SHE'S NOT HAD HER EDUCATION.
SHE'S SETTING HER CHILD UP FOR A SHE'S NOT HAD HER EDUCATION.
SHE'S SETTING HER CHILD UP FOR A LIFE OF POVERTY BUT IN MOST SHE'S SETTING HER CHILD UP FOR A LIFE OF POVERTY BUT IN MOST CASES BUT GUESS WHAT, GOVERNMENT LIFE OF POVERTY BUT IN MOST CASES BUT GUESS WHAT, GOVERNMENT AND EVEN CONSERVATIVE THINK CASES BUT GUESS WHAT, GOVERNMENT AND EVEN CONSERVATIVE THINK THANKS CAN'T STAND OUT THERE AND EVEN CONSERVATIVE THINK THANKS CAN'T STAND OUT THERE WITH BEATING A DRUM AND SAYING, THANKS CAN'T STAND OUT THERE WITH BEATING A DRUM AND SAYING, GET MARRIED, GET MARRIED, GET WITH BEATING A DRUM AND SAYING, GET MARRIED, GET MARRIED, GET MARRIED.
GET MARRIED, GET MARRIED, GET MARRIED.
>> BECAUSE THE WOMEN -- THE MARRIED.
>> BECAUSE THE WOMEN -- THE WOMEN AREN'T LISTENING.
>> BECAUSE THE WOMEN -- THE WOMEN AREN'T LISTENING.
WELL THEN WHAT?
WOMEN AREN'T LISTENING.
WELL THEN WHAT?
>> WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH WELL THEN WHAT?
>> WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH WELFARE REFORM SINCE 1996.
>> WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH WELFARE REFORM SINCE 1996.
ONE OF THE THINGS THERE, WELFARE REFORM SINCE 1996.
ONE OF THE THINGS THERE, TEMPORARY FAMILIES KNEW IT WAS, ONE OF THE THINGS THERE, TEMPORARY FAMILIES KNEW IT WAS, YOU HAD WORK REQUIREMENT, IS TEMPORARY FAMILIES KNEW IT WAS, YOU HAD WORK REQUIREMENT, IS THAT WERE PUT IN TO GET BENEFITS YOU HAD WORK REQUIREMENT, IS THAT WERE PUT IN TO GET BENEFITS AND YOU ALSO STOP PENALIZING THAT WERE PUT IN TO GET BENEFITS AND YOU ALSO STOP PENALIZING PEOPLE FOR GETTING MARRIED.
AND YOU ALSO STOP PENALIZING PEOPLE FOR GETTING MARRIED.
WE HAVE 80 WELFARE PROGRAMS PEOPLE FOR GETTING MARRIED.
WE HAVE 80 WELFARE PROGRAMS ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT.
WE HAVE 80 WELFARE PROGRAMS ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT.
FOOD STAMPS IS JUST ONE.
ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT.
FOOD STAMPS IS JUST ONE.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHERS.
FOOD STAMPS IS JUST ONE.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHERS.
THE FACT IS IN SOME OF THESE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHERS.
THE FACT IS IN SOME OF THESE CASES IF PEOPLE GET MARRIED THEY THE FACT IS IN SOME OF THESE CASES IF PEOPLE GET MARRIED THEY LOSE THE BENEFIT.
CASES IF PEOPLE GET MARRIED THEY LOSE THE BENEFIT.
THEY END UP DISCOURAGING -- FROM LOSE THE BENEFIT.
THEY END UP DISCOURAGING -- FROM LIVING TOGETHER AND GETTING THEY END UP DISCOURAGING -- FROM LIVING TOGETHER AND GETTING MARRIED BECAUSE HE LOSES HIS LIVING TOGETHER AND GETTING MARRIED BECAUSE HE LOSES HIS BENEFITS WE NEED TO LOOK AT MARRIED BECAUSE HE LOSES HIS BENEFITS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF THINGS MAKE SURE BENEFITS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF THINGS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PENALIZING PEOPLE THOSE KIND OF THINGS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PENALIZING PEOPLE AND KEEPING -- WE ALSO HAVE TO THAT WE'RE NOT PENALIZING PEOPLE AND KEEPING -- WE ALSO HAVE TO SAY, LOOK, IF PEOPLE COULDN'T BE AND KEEPING -- WE ALSO HAVE TO SAY, LOOK, IF PEOPLE COULDN'T BE UNDER WRITTEN FOR THE LIVES THEY SAY, LOOK, IF PEOPLE COULDN'T BE UNDER WRITTEN FOR THE LIVES THEY SHOES.
UNDER WRITTEN FOR THE LIVES THEY SHOES.
I'M GOING TO HAVE A CHILD I'M 18 SHOES.
I'M GOING TO HAVE A CHILD I'M 18 I DON'T HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION, I'M GOING TO HAVE A CHILD I'M 18 I DON'T HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION, I'M GOING TO STAY HOME AND I DON'T HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION, I'M GOING TO STAY HOME AND GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SEND ME I'M GOING TO STAY HOME AND GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SEND ME FOOD STAMPS AND GIVE ME HOUSING GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SEND ME FOOD STAMPS AND GIVE ME HOUSING WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE IS THAT FOOD STAMPS AND GIVE ME HOUSING WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE IS THAT SENDING TO PEOPLE?
WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE IS THAT SENDING TO PEOPLE?
THAT WE'RE ALLOWING TO MAKE SENDING TO PEOPLE?
THAT WE'RE ALLOWING TO MAKE CHOICES WITHOUT ANY END DATE THAT WE'RE ALLOWING TO MAKE CHOICES WITHOUT ANY END DATE THEN OTHER CHILDREN AROUND THEM CHOICES WITHOUT ANY END DATE THEN OTHER CHILDREN AROUND THEM AND PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY -- THEN OTHER CHILDREN AROUND THEM AND PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY -- >> LAST WORD TRASH TRISH A.
AND PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY -- >> LAST WORD TRASH TRISH A.
>> THOSE PEOPLE THAT REPUBLICANS >> LAST WORD TRASH TRISH A.
>> THOSE PEOPLE THAT REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT IT.
>> THOSE PEOPLE THAT REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT IT.
WHAT WE SEE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT.
WHAT WE SEE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET A WHAT WE SEE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET A JUMP ON FINDING THOSE JOBS AND WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET A JUMP ON FINDING THOSE JOBS AND GOVERNMENT BEEN THERE TO PROTECT JUMP ON FINDING THOSE JOBS AND GOVERNMENT BEEN THERE TO PROTECT THEM FROM ABJECT POVERTY UNTIL GOVERNMENT BEEN THERE TO PROTECT THEM FROM ABJECT POVERTY UNTIL THEY GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THEM FROM ABJECT POVERTY UNTIL THEY GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK THAT IS RESPONSIBILITY THEY GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK THAT IS RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNMENT.
I THINK THAT IS RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNMENT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
OF GOVERNMENT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
>> ALL RIGHT.
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WRITER AMANDA HESS HAS SPARKED A FROM POVERTY TO ONLINE MISOGYNY.
WRITER AMANDA HESS HAS SPARKED A NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WRITER AMANDA HESS HAS SPARKED A NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT TORRENTS OF ONLINE ABUSE FACED NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT TORRENTS OF ONLINE ABUSE FACED BY WOMEN.
TORRENTS OF ONLINE ABUSE FACED BY WOMEN.
IN A COVER STORY FOR PACIFIC BY WOMEN.
IN A COVER STORY FOR PACIFIC STANDARD MAGAZINE, HESS RECOUNTS IN A COVER STORY FOR PACIFIC STANDARD MAGAZINE, HESS RECOUNTS HORRIFIC THREATS SHE'S RECEIVED STANDARD MAGAZINE, HESS RECOUNTS HORRIFIC THREATS SHE'S RECEIVED OVER THE YEARS FROM ANONYMOUS HORRIFIC THREATS SHE'S RECEIVED OVER THE YEARS FROM ANONYMOUS WEB USERS.
OVER THE YEARS FROM ANONYMOUS WEB USERS.
HESS DESCRIBES HERSELF AS A WEB USERS.
HESS DESCRIBES HERSELF AS A WRITER WHO COVERS SEX, HOLLYWOOD HESS DESCRIBES HERSELF AS A WRITER WHO COVERS SEX, HOLLYWOOD AND TECHNOLOGY.
WRITER WHO COVERS SEX, HOLLYWOOD AND TECHNOLOGY.
MANY THREATS INCLUDED RAPE AND AND TECHNOLOGY.
MANY THREATS INCLUDED RAPE AND MURDER.
MANY THREATS INCLUDED RAPE AND MURDER.
>> I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE SHE MURDER.
>> I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE SHE FOUND TWITTER ACCOUNT THAT >> I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE SHE FOUND TWITTER ACCOUNT THAT SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR FOUND TWITTER ACCOUNT THAT SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAKING THREATS SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAKING THREATS TO ME.
THE PURPOSES OF MAKING THREATS TO ME.
AND IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN TWEETS TO ME.
AND IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN TWEETS THAT WERE SAYING THINGS LIKE, AND IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN TWEETS THAT WERE SAYING THINGS LIKE, I'M GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE THAT WERE SAYING THINGS LIKE, I'M GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND RAPE YOU AND REMOVE YOUR I'M GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND RAPE YOU AND REMOVE YOUR HEAD AND SOCIAL VIOLENCE AGAINST AND RAPE YOU AND REMOVE YOUR HEAD AND SOCIAL VIOLENCE AGAINST PEOPLE LIKE ME WAS REALLY HEAD AND SOCIAL VIOLENCE AGAINST PEOPLE LIKE ME WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
PEOPLE LIKE ME WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
DECIDED TO CALL THE POLICE AND IMPORTANT.
DECIDED TO CALL THE POLICE AND HE ASKED ME WHAT TWITTER WAS.
DECIDED TO CALL THE POLICE AND HE ASKED ME WHAT TWITTER WAS.
9 POLICE HAVE BEEN DISMISSING HE ASKED ME WHAT TWITTER WAS.
9 POLICE HAVE BEEN DISMISSING VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN FOR A 9 POLICE HAVE BEEN DISMISSING VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN FOR A LONG TIME AND SO THIS IS JUST VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN FOR A LONG TIME AND SO THIS IS JUST SORT OF THE NEW ARENA WHERE THAT LONG TIME AND SO THIS IS JUST SORT OF THE NEW ARENA WHERE THAT IS PLAYING OUT.
SORT OF THE NEW ARENA WHERE THAT IS PLAYING OUT.
>> HIS SAYS SUCH ABUSE IS THE IS PLAYING OUT.
>> HIS SAYS SUCH ABUSE IS THE NORM, WRITING "NONE OF THIS >> HIS SAYS SUCH ABUSE IS THE NORM, WRITING "NONE OF THIS MAKES ME EXCEPTIONAL.
NORM, WRITING "NONE OF THIS MAKES ME EXCEPTIONAL.
IT JUST MAKES ME A WOMAN WITH AN MAKES ME EXCEPTIONAL.
IT JUST MAKES ME A WOMAN WITH AN INTERNET CONNECTION."
IT JUST MAKES ME A WOMAN WITH AN INTERNET CONNECTION."
>> I SAW A LOT OF SIMILARITIES INTERNET CONNECTION."
>> I SAW A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO OTHER ARENAS THAT HAVE BEEN >> I SAW A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO OTHER ARENAS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH CIVIL RIGHTS TO OTHER ARENAS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH CIVIL RIGHTS LEGISLATION SO ONE OF THEM ADDRESSED THROUGH CIVIL RIGHTS LEGISLATION SO ONE OF THEM SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE LEGISLATION SO ONE OF THEM SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE.
SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE.
I SEE THE SAME THING ON THE WORKPLACE.
I SEE THE SAME THING ON THE INTERNET IT'S JUST THAT THIS NEW I SEE THE SAME THING ON THE INTERNET IT'S JUST THAT THIS NEW REALM WHICH IS NOT A SCHOOL, NOT INTERNET IT'S JUST THAT THIS NEW REALM WHICH IS NOT A SCHOOL, NOT A WORKPLACE, NOT A HOME STILL REALM WHICH IS NOT A SCHOOL, NOT A WORKPLACE, NOT A HOME STILL HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE A WORKPLACE, NOT A HOME STILL HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE LEGAL SYSTEM.
HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE LEGAL SYSTEM.
>> WHILE MOST THREATS ARE NOT LEGAL SYSTEM.
>> WHILE MOST THREATS ARE NOT CARRIED OUT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO >> WHILE MOST THREATS ARE NOT CARRIED OUT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DISCERN WHEN A DERANGED WEB USER CARRIED OUT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DISCERN WHEN A DERANGED WEB USER MIGHT ACT.
DISCERN WHEN A DERANGED WEB USER MIGHT ACT.
SO, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE HERE MIGHT ACT.
SO, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE HERE FRANCESCA CHAMBERS SO, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE HERE FRANCESCA CHAMBERS >> ONLINE THREATS NEED TO BE FRANCESCA CHAMBERS >> ONLINE THREATS NEED TO BE TAKEN JUST AS SERIOUSLY AS >> ONLINE THREATS NEED TO BE TAKEN JUST AS SERIOUSLY AS WRITTEN OR VERBAL THREAT.
TAKEN JUST AS SERIOUSLY AS WRITTEN OR VERBAL THREAT.
IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WRITTEN OR VERBAL THREAT.
IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW IF THESE PEOPLE WERE SERIOUS I IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW IF THESE PEOPLE WERE SERIOUS I THINK WE'D HATE TO SEE ONE OF IF THESE PEOPLE WERE SERIOUS I THINK WE'D HATE TO SEE ONE OF THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE ACTUALLY TURN THINK WE'D HATE TO SEE ONE OF THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE ACTUALLY TURN OUT TO BE VERY SERIOUS THEN HAVE THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE ACTUALLY TURN OUT TO BE VERY SERIOUS THEN HAVE CASE BLOW UP.
OUT TO BE VERY SERIOUS THEN HAVE CASE BLOW UP.
I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CASE BLOW UP.
I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE THEN.
I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE THEN.
THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING I DONE BEFORE THEN.
THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING I DEAL WITH.
THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING I DEAL WITH.
>> DO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES -- DEAL WITH.
>> DO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES -- BECAUSE OF YOUR ONLINE WORK.
>> DO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES -- BECAUSE OF YOUR ONLINE WORK.
>> YES.
BECAUSE OF YOUR ONLINE WORK.
>> YES.
NOT A LOT OF THREATS, BUT I DO >> YES.
NOT A LOT OF THREATS, BUT I DO DEAL WITH BEYOND NETS, THINGS NOT A LOT OF THREATS, BUT I DO DEAL WITH BEYOND NETS, THINGS THAT MAKE ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE DEAL WITH BEYOND NETS, THINGS THAT MAKE ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IT'S NOT JUST ANY WOMAN WITH A THAT MAKE ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IT'S NOT JUST ANY WOMAN WITH A INTERNET CONNECTION IT'S WOMEN IT'S NOT JUST ANY WOMAN WITH A INTERNET CONNECTION IT'S WOMEN WHO WORK IN MEDIA OR INTERNET CONNECTION IT'S WOMEN WHO WORK IN MEDIA OR COMMUNICATIONS OR JUST GENERALLY WHO WORK IN MEDIA OR COMMUNICATIONS OR JUST GENERALLY HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS THAT SOME COMMUNICATIONS OR JUST GENERALLY HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LIKE.
HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LIKE.
AND I THINK AS YOU SEE MORE OF PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LIKE.
AND I THINK AS YOU SEE MORE OF THAT ON THE INTERNET YOU SEE AND I THINK AS YOU SEE MORE OF THAT ON THE INTERNET YOU SEE MORE WOMEN RISING UP LIKE THAT THAT ON THE INTERNET YOU SEE MORE WOMEN RISING UP LIKE THAT THAN THIS IS GOING TO BECOME MORE WOMEN RISING UP LIKE THAT THAN THIS IS GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE OF A PROBLEM.
THAN THIS IS GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE OF A PROBLEM.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE ABOUT MORE AND MORE OF A PROBLEM.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL IS >> YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL IS THAT WE'VE HEARD OF THE THE SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL IS THAT WE'VE HEARD OF THE SHAREHOLDERS, NOW THIS IS USERS THAT WE'VE HEARD OF THE SHAREHOLDERS, NOW THIS IS USERS SPRING THAT WE'RE SEEING TO SHAREHOLDERS, NOW THIS IS USERS SPRING THAT WE'RE SEEING TO COMBAT THIS KIND OF ABUSE.
SPRING THAT WE'RE SEEING TO COMBAT THIS KIND OF ABUSE.
YOU SAW IT LAST YEAR WITH COMBAT THIS KIND OF ABUSE.
YOU SAW IT LAST YEAR WITH FACEBOOK WHERE FACEBOOK HAD THIS YOU SAW IT LAST YEAR WITH FACEBOOK WHERE FACEBOOK HAD THIS RAPE VIDEO AND USERS WANTED THEM FACEBOOK WHERE FACEBOOK HAD THIS RAPE VIDEO AND USERS WANTED THEM TO TAKE IT DOWN THEY ALL QUICKLY RAPE VIDEO AND USERS WANTED THEM TO TAKE IT DOWN THEY ALL QUICKLY FORMED A VERY POWERFUL CAMPAIGN TO TAKE IT DOWN THEY ALL QUICKLY FORMED A VERY POWERFUL CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH #FBRAPE.
FORMED A VERY POWERFUL CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH #FBRAPE.
WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH #FBRAPE.
WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME YOU'RE SEEING THE SAME THING WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME YOU'RE SEEING THE SAME THING WITH TWITTER THERE WAS A CASE IN YOU'RE SEEING THE SAME THING WITH TWITTER THERE WAS A CASE IN THE U.K. WHERE WOMAN GOT DEATH WITH TWITTER THERE WAS A CASE IN THE U.K. WHERE WOMAN GOT DEATH THREATS AND WHEN SHE WENT TO THE U.K. WHERE WOMAN GOT DEATH THREATS AND WHEN SHE WENT TO TWITTER AND TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THREATS AND WHEN SHE WENT TO TWITTER AND TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY DID NOTHING.
TWITTER AND TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY DID NOTHING.
SHE JUST RETWEETED THE ABUSE THEY DID NOTHING.
SHE JUST RETWEETED THE ABUSE WELL, WITHIN ABOUT A WEEK THERE SHE JUST RETWEETED THE ABUSE WELL, WITHIN ABOUT A WEEK THERE WAS A RESPONSE FROM TWITTER, WELL, WITHIN ABOUT A WEEK THERE WAS A RESPONSE FROM TWITTER, SCOTLAND YARDS PICKED UP THREE.
WAS A RESPONSE FROM TWITTER, SCOTLAND YARDS PICKED UP THREE.
I THINK THAT USING THE POWER OF SCOTLAND YARDS PICKED UP THREE.
I THINK THAT USING THE POWER OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA IT SORT THAT I THINK THAT USING THE POWER OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA IT SORT THAT HAVE OLD EXPRESSION THE BEST THE SOCIAL MEDIA IT SORT THAT HAVE OLD EXPRESSION THE BEST RESPONSE TO MORE SPEECH.
HAVE OLD EXPRESSION THE BEST RESPONSE TO MORE SPEECH.
EXPONENTIAL ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
RESPONSE TO MORE SPEECH.
EXPONENTIAL ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
>> I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, EXPONENTIAL ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
>> I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, PEOPLE SAY RUDE THINGS ALL THE >> I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, PEOPLE SAY RUDE THINGS ALL THE TIME.
PEOPLE SAY RUDE THINGS ALL THE TIME.
SOME ARE ACROSS THE LINE BUT ARE TIME.
SOME ARE ACROSS THE LINE BUT ARE YOU GOING AFTER SEVER UNCLE SOME ARE ACROSS THE LINE BUT ARE YOU GOING AFTER SEVER UNCLE PERSON WHO MAKES A DUMB YOU GOING AFTER SEVER UNCLE PERSON WHO MAKES A DUMB STATEMENT.
PERSON WHO MAKES A DUMB STATEMENT.
WHERE DO YOU KIND OF DRAW THE STATEMENT.
WHERE DO YOU KIND OF DRAW THE LINE.
WHERE DO YOU KIND OF DRAW THE LINE.
>> YOU WOULD WANT -- IF THE LINE.
>> YOU WOULD WANT -- IF THE THREATS WERE BEING MADE AGAINST >> YOU WOULD WANT -- IF THE THREATS WERE BEING MADE AGAINST UP, YOU WOULD WANT THAT LINE THREATS WERE BEING MADE AGAINST UP, YOU WOULD WANT THAT LINE DRAWN PRETTY WIDE.
UP, YOU WOULD WANT THAT LINE DRAWN PRETTY WIDE.
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO BE DRAWN PRETTY WIDE.
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER ALL SORTS CAREFUL.
SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER ALL SORTS OF THINGS THREATS.
SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER ALL SORTS OF THINGS THREATS.
BUT LOOK, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF THINGS THREATS.
BUT LOOK, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY SAYING, I HATE BUT LOOK, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY SAYING, I HATE YOU AND I HATE WHAT YOU SAID.
BETWEEN SOMEBODY SAYING, I HATE YOU AND I HATE WHAT YOU SAID.
AND I'M COMING TO KILL YOU AND YOU AND I HATE WHAT YOU SAID.
AND I'M COMING TO KILL YOU AND I'M GOING TO GET YOUR FAMILY.
AND I'M COMING TO KILL YOU AND I'M GOING TO GET YOUR FAMILY.
THOSE ARE DIFFERENT.
I'M GOING TO GET YOUR FAMILY.
THOSE ARE DIFFERENT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY THOSE ARE DIFFERENT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
ALSO INTERESTING WHEN WE LOOK AT CAREFUL.
ALSO INTERESTING WHEN WE LOOK AT CYBERBULLYING SOME OF THE ALSO INTERESTING WHEN WE LOOK AT CYBERBULLYING SOME OF THE DIFFERENT ABUSERS ARE WOMEN.
CYBERBULLYING SOME OF THE DIFFERENT ABUSERS ARE WOMEN.
MORE SO THAN YOUNG MEN EVEN.
DIFFERENT ABUSERS ARE WOMEN.
MORE SO THAN YOUNG MEN EVEN.
WHEN YOU LOOK ONLINE WHETHER MORE SO THAN YOUNG MEN EVEN.
WHEN YOU LOOK ONLINE WHETHER IT'S FACEBOOK OR TWITTER -- WHEN YOU LOOK ONLINE WHETHER IT'S FACEBOOK OR TWITTER -- >> BECAUSE UNIVERSITY OF IT'S FACEBOOK OR TWITTER -- >> BECAUSE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND ACTUALLY DID A STUDY, >> BECAUSE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND ACTUALLY DID A STUDY, CREATED ALL THESE ACCOUNTS AND MARYLAND ACTUALLY DID A STUDY, CREATED ALL THESE ACCOUNTS AND THEY WENT IN TO CHAT ROOMS AND CREATED ALL THESE ACCOUNTS AND THEY WENT IN TO CHAT ROOMS AND THE WOMEN ON AVERAGE OUT OF A THEY WENT IN TO CHAT ROOMS AND THE WOMEN ON AVERAGE OUT OF A HUNDRED OF THESE ABUSES, THE WOMEN ON AVERAGE OUT OF A HUNDRED OF THESE ABUSES, COMMENTS, IF THE HANDLE LOOKED HUNDRED OF THESE ABUSES, COMMENTS, IF THE HANDLE LOOKED LIKE A WOMAN, MEN HAD AVERAGE OF COMMENTS, IF THE HANDLE LOOKED LIKE A WOMAN, MEN HAD AVERAGE OF 3.7 NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
LIKE A WOMAN, MEN HAD AVERAGE OF 3.7 NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE TEENS 3.7 NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE TEENS -- WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE TEENS -- >> WOMEN AGAINST WOMEN NOT IN -- >> WOMEN AGAINST WOMEN NOT IN GENERAL.
>> WOMEN AGAINST WOMEN NOT IN GENERAL.
>> INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS GENERAL.
>> INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS STORY REALLY A GAP WHERE LAW >> INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS STORY REALLY A GAP WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AND WHERE REALITY STORY REALLY A GAP WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AND WHERE REALITY AND PEOPLE EXIST AND WHERE ENFORCEMENT IS AND WHERE REALITY AND PEOPLE EXIST AND WHERE PEOPLE NEED PROTECTION SO THEY AND PEOPLE EXIST AND WHERE PEOPLE NEED PROTECTION SO THEY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE NEED PROTECTION SO THEY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE CYBERWORLD.
DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE CYBERWORLD.
I AGREE WITH FRANCESCA.
CYBERWORLD.
I AGREE WITH FRANCESCA.
IT'S A CULTURE THAT ACCEPTS THAT I AGREE WITH FRANCESCA.
IT'S A CULTURE THAT ACCEPTS THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THERE IT'S A CULTURE THAT ACCEPTS THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE CULTURE ONE KIND OF BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE CULTURE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD BE LAWS WAS SOMETHING IN THE CULTURE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD BE LAWS THAT YOU DO THIS, IT WILL BE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD BE LAWS THAT YOU DO THIS, IT WILL BE CRIMINALIZED.
THAT YOU DO THIS, IT WILL BE CRIMINALIZED.
YOU BET THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT CRIMINALIZED.
YOU BET THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT SEND DEATH THREATS AND RAPE YOU BET THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT SEND DEATH THREATS AND RAPE THREATS.
SEND DEATH THREATS AND RAPE THREATS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXTREME THREATS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXTREME CASES HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXTREME CASES HERE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, I HATE CASES HERE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, I HATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, I HATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
VERY GRAPHIC.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
VERY GRAPHIC.
>> OR YOU'RE STUPID.
VERY GRAPHIC.
>> OR YOU'RE STUPID.
>> DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST >> OR YOU'RE STUPID.
>> DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST HAPPENING WITH ONE PERSON A LOT >> DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST HAPPENING WITH ONE PERSON A LOT OF WOMEN IN COMMUNICATIONS AND HAPPENING WITH ONE PERSON A LOT OF WOMEN IN COMMUNICATIONS AND MEDIA THIS HAPPENS ON DAILY OF WOMEN IN COMMUNICATIONS AND MEDIA THIS HAPPENS ON DAILY BASIS SAYING I WILL KILL YOU.
MEDIA THIS HAPPENS ON DAILY BASIS SAYING I WILL KILL YOU.
I WILL RAPE YOU.
BASIS SAYING I WILL KILL YOU.
I WILL RAPE YOU.
THOSE ARE SERIOUS THREATS THAT I I WILL RAPE YOU.
THOSE ARE SERIOUS THREATS THAT I EXPECT POLICE TO TAKE AS THOSE ARE SERIOUS THREATS THAT I EXPECT POLICE TO TAKE AS SERIOUSLY AS WRITTEN OR PHONE EXPECT POLICE TO TAKE AS SERIOUSLY AS WRITTEN OR PHONE CALL OR -- SERIOUSLY AS WRITTEN OR PHONE CALL OR -- >> ONE OF YOU JUST SAID THAT -- CALL OR -- >> ONE OF YOU JUST SAID THAT -- TALKED ABOUT THE CULTURE OF >> ONE OF YOU JUST SAID THAT -- TALKED ABOUT THE CULTURE OF ABUSE.
TALKED ABOUT THE CULTURE OF ABUSE.
LOOK AT TWITTER STARTING OFF ABUSE.
LOOK AT TWITTER STARTING OFF WITH -- GOING PUBLIC HAVING ALL LOOK AT TWITTER STARTING OFF WITH -- GOING PUBLIC HAVING ALL MALE BOARD.
WITH -- GOING PUBLIC HAVING ALL MALE BOARD.
IS THAT -- ARE THEY MALE BOARD.
IS THAT -- ARE THEY DISCONNECTED?
IS THAT -- ARE THEY DISCONNECTED?
>> YOU ASK A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
DISCONNECTED?
>> YOU ASK A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
>> YOU ASK A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
I THINK IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
I THINK IT IS.
THAT IT WAS MORE WOMEN IN I THINK IT IS.
THAT IT WAS MORE WOMEN IN CONTROL OF THE COMPANIES, FEEL THAT IT WAS MORE WOMEN IN CONTROL OF THE COMPANIES, FEEL DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT HARASSMENT.
CONTROL OF THE COMPANIES, FEEL DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT HARASSMENT.
>> THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE USERS DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT HARASSMENT.
>> THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE USERS SPRINGS, THEY TOOK CARE THAT >> THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE USERS SPRINGS, THEY TOOK CARE THAT HAVE, THEY TOOK CARE OF TWITTER SPRINGS, THEY TOOK CARE THAT HAVE, THEY TOOK CARE OF TWITTER AND FACEBOOK.
HAVE, THEY TOOK CARE OF TWITTER AND FACEBOOK.
ONE THING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT AND FACEBOOK.
ONE THING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS, AS HORRIBLE AS THESE ONE THING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS, AS HORRIBLE AS THESE ABUSIVE STATEMENTS ARE, IT'S THIS, AS HORRIBLE AS THESE ABUSIVE STATEMENTS ARE, IT'S OUTING A LOT OF MISOGYNY, THIS ABUSIVE STATEMENTS ARE, IT'S OUTING A LOT OF MISOGYNY, THIS INNER CULTURE.
OUTING A LOT OF MISOGYNY, THIS INNER CULTURE.
WE HEAR THE NUMBERS EVERY NINE INNER CULTURE.
WE HEAR THE NUMBERS EVERY NINE SECONDS A WOMAN IS ASSAULTED OR WE HEAR THE NUMBERS EVERY NINE SECONDS A WOMAN IS ASSAULTED OR ABUSED IN AMERICA.
SECONDS A WOMAN IS ASSAULTED OR ABUSED IN AMERICA.
YOU FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.
ABUSED IN AMERICA.
YOU FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE THIS COMING YOU FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE THIS COMING ACROSS ON THE INTERNET A LITTLE BUT WHEN YOU SEE THIS COMING ACROSS ON THE INTERNET A LITTLE HARD TO BELIEVE -- ACROSS ON THE INTERNET A LITTLE HARD TO BELIEVE -- >> VERY FRUSTRATING, LEARN ROCK HARD TO BELIEVE -- >> VERY FRUSTRATING, LEARN ROCK I CAN FOUNDATION, WHAT THEY WERE >> VERY FRUSTRATING, LEARN ROCK I CAN FOUNDATION, WHAT THEY WERE REAUTHORIZING THE DOMESTIC I CAN FOUNDATION, WHAT THEY WERE REAUTHORIZING THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACT SAID THAT REAUTHORIZING THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACT SAID THAT HARASSMENT ONLINE WAS NOT EQUAL.
VIOLENCE ACT SAID THAT HARASSMENT ONLINE WAS NOT EQUAL.
BECAUSE LAW ACTUALLY SAYS THAT HARASSMENT ONLINE WAS NOT EQUAL.
BECAUSE LAW ACTUALLY SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT BE HARASSED.
BECAUSE LAW ACTUALLY SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT BE HARASSED.
PROTECTING.
YOU CANNOT BE HARASSED.
PROTECTING.
WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT, PROTECTING.
WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT, WHAT REALITY DO THEY LIVE IN.
WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT, WHAT REALITY DO THEY LIVE IN.
THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE WHAT REALITY DO THEY LIVE IN.
THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE INDUSTRY, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE INDUSTRY, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE WOMEN.
INDUSTRY, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE WOMEN.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TWITTER THE WOMEN.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TWITTER HAD AN ALL MALE BOARD.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TWITTER HAD AN ALL MALE BOARD.
I WOULD BLAME THIS ON ABILITY TO HAD AN ALL MALE BOARD.
I WOULD BLAME THIS ON ABILITY TO CREATE TWITTER HANDLE NOT USE I WOULD BLAME THIS ON ABILITY TO CREATE TWITTER HANDLE NOT USE REAL NAME.
CREATE TWITTER HANDLE NOT USE REAL NAME.
AND SO AS GOOGLE AND YOUTUBE AND REAL NAME.
AND SO AS GOOGLE AND YOUTUBE AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT REQUIRE AND SO AS GOOGLE AND YOUTUBE AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE A NAME -- OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE A NAME -- >> CAN'T THEY ALWAYS GET YOU BY YOU TO HAVE A NAME -- >> CAN'T THEY ALWAYS GET YOU BY THE NUMBER, THE COMPUTER HAS A >> CAN'T THEY ALWAYS GET YOU BY THE NUMBER, THE COMPUTER HAS A -- THE NUMBER, THE COMPUTER HAS A -- >> FBI CAN ALWAYS -- -- >> FBI CAN ALWAYS -- >> IT'S HARDER TO TRACK.
>> FBI CAN ALWAYS -- >> IT'S HARDER TO TRACK.
>> ESPECIALLY USING A PUBLIC -- >> IT'S HARDER TO TRACK.
>> ESPECIALLY USING A PUBLIC -- >> BEHIND THE HEADLINES.
>> ESPECIALLY USING A PUBLIC -- >> BEHIND THE HEADLINES.
AGEISM AS A FEMINIST ISSUE.
>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES.
AGEISM AS A FEMINIST ISSUE.
SOCIAL-FEMINIST AND AUTHOR LYNNE AGEISM AS A FEMINIST ISSUE.
SOCIAL-FEMINIST AND AUTHOR LYNNE SEGAL OFFERS A MORE POSITIVE SOCIAL-FEMINIST AND AUTHOR LYNNE SEGAL OFFERS A MORE POSITIVE OUTLOOK ON GROWING OLD.
SEGAL OFFERS A MORE POSITIVE OUTLOOK ON GROWING OLD.
>> I WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S OUTLOOK ON GROWING OLD.
>> I WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO BE OLD, AND TO THINK >> I WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO BE OLD, AND TO THINK ABOUT BEING OLD, AS A TIME WHEN POSSIBLE TO BE OLD, AND TO THINK ABOUT BEING OLD, AS A TIME WHEN LIFE IS SOMETHING STILL TO BE ABOUT BEING OLD, AS A TIME WHEN LIFE IS SOMETHING STILL TO BE CELEBRATED.
LIFE IS SOMETHING STILL TO BE CELEBRATED.
>> SEGAL TURNS 70 LATER THIS CELEBRATED.
>> SEGAL TURNS 70 LATER THIS YEAR.
>> SEGAL TURNS 70 LATER THIS YEAR.
BUT THIS NATIVE-BORN AUSTRALIAN, YEAR.
BUT THIS NATIVE-BORN AUSTRALIAN, WHO TEACHES COLLEGE PSYCHOLOGY BUT THIS NATIVE-BORN AUSTRALIAN, WHO TEACHES COLLEGE PSYCHOLOGY AND GENDER STUDIES, SAYS SHE'S WHO TEACHES COLLEGE PSYCHOLOGY AND GENDER STUDIES, SAYS SHE'S COME TO ACCEPT AGING.
AND GENDER STUDIES, SAYS SHE'S COME TO ACCEPT AGING.
AND SHE WANTS OTHERS, BOTH YOUNG COME TO ACCEPT AGING.
AND SHE WANTS OTHERS, BOTH YOUNG AND OLD, TO DO THE SAME.
AND SHE WANTS OTHERS, BOTH YOUNG AND OLD, TO DO THE SAME.
HER NEWEST BOOK "OUT OF TIME: AND OLD, TO DO THE SAME.
HER NEWEST BOOK "OUT OF TIME: THE PLEASURES AND THE PERILS OF HER NEWEST BOOK "OUT OF TIME: THE PLEASURES AND THE PERILS OF AGING" ADDRESSES THE PREJUDICES THE PLEASURES AND THE PERILS OF AGING" ADDRESSES THE PREJUDICES AND THE DENIALS THAT IMPEDE THE AGING" ADDRESSES THE PREJUDICES AND THE DENIALS THAT IMPEDE THE "GOLDEN YEARS."
AND THE DENIALS THAT IMPEDE THE "GOLDEN YEARS."
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE NOWADAYS LIKE "GOLDEN YEARS."
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE NOWADAYS LIKE TO CLING TO THE IDEA THAT >> A LOT OF PEOPLE NOWADAYS LIKE TO CLING TO THE IDEA THAT THEY'LL NEVER BE OLD, THAT WE TO CLING TO THE IDEA THAT THEY'LL NEVER BE OLD, THAT WE CAN SIMPLY STAY YOUNG FOREVER, THEY'LL NEVER BE OLD, THAT WE CAN SIMPLY STAY YOUNG FOREVER, BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
CAN SIMPLY STAY YOUNG FOREVER, BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
WHAT I THINK IS THAT IT'S REALLY BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
WHAT I THINK IS THAT IT'S REALLY CRUCIAL TO THINK ABOUT THE LATER WHAT I THINK IS THAT IT'S REALLY CRUCIAL TO THINK ABOUT THE LATER STAGES OF LIFE.
CRUCIAL TO THINK ABOUT THE LATER STAGES OF LIFE.
IN FACT THEY MAY BE CALLED THE STAGES OF LIFE.
IN FACT THEY MAY BE CALLED THE GOLDEN YEARS, BUT THERE'S IN FACT THEY MAY BE CALLED THE GOLDEN YEARS, BUT THERE'S ENORMOUS FEAR AND STIGMA, ALMOST GOLDEN YEARS, BUT THERE'S ENORMOUS FEAR AND STIGMA, ALMOST HORROR, ATTACHED TO THE IDEA OF ENORMOUS FEAR AND STIGMA, ALMOST HORROR, ATTACHED TO THE IDEA OF BEING OLD HORROR, ATTACHED TO THE IDEA OF BEING OLD >> IN THE U.S.
THE NUMBER OF BEING OLD >> IN THE U.S.
THE NUMBER OF ADULTS 65 AND OLDER WILL DOUBLE >> IN THE U.S.
THE NUMBER OF ADULTS 65 AND OLDER WILL DOUBLE DURING THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
ADULTS 65 AND OLDER WILL DOUBLE DURING THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
OLDER WOMEN WILL CONTINUE TO OUT DURING THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
OLDER WOMEN WILL CONTINUE TO OUT NUMBER OLDER MEN.
OLDER WOMEN WILL CONTINUE TO OUT NUMBER OLDER MEN.
AGING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE NUMBER OLDER MEN.
AGING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT IMPACTS WOMEN AGING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT IMPACTS WOMEN DISPROPORTIONATE LOW AND THE THAT IMPACTS WOMEN DISPROPORTIONATE LOW AND THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN REINFORCED DISPROPORTIONATE LOW AND THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN REINFORCED CULTURALLY.
CONCERNS HAVE BEEN REINFORCED CULTURALLY.
>> THE FEARS OF OLD AGE ARE CULTURALLY.
>> THE FEARS OF OLD AGE ARE IMPLANTED IN US FROM VERY EARLY >> THE FEARS OF OLD AGE ARE IMPLANTED IN US FROM VERY EARLY ON, PARTICULARLY GENDERED FEARS IMPLANTED IN US FROM VERY EARLY ON, PARTICULARLY GENDERED FEARS OF WICKED OLD WOMEN, ACTUALLY, ON, PARTICULARLY GENDERED FEARS OF WICKED OLD WOMEN, ACTUALLY, IF YOU THINK OF THE WITCH, THE OF WICKED OLD WOMEN, ACTUALLY, IF YOU THINK OF THE WITCH, THE HARRIDAN, THE MEDUSA, THESE ARE IF YOU THINK OF THE WITCH, THE HARRIDAN, THE MEDUSA, THESE ARE VERY MUCH FEMALE IMAGES, THE HARRIDAN, THE MEDUSA, THESE ARE VERY MUCH FEMALE IMAGES, THE IMAGE OF THE UGLY OLD WOMAN.
VERY MUCH FEMALE IMAGES, THE IMAGE OF THE UGLY OLD WOMAN.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IMAGE OF THE UGLY OLD WOMAN.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOMEN AND ALSO MEN HAVE TO AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOMEN AND ALSO MEN HAVE TO CONTEND WITH.
THAT WOMEN AND ALSO MEN HAVE TO CONTEND WITH.
YOU KNOW, WOMEN CAN START CONTEND WITH.
YOU KNOW, WOMEN CAN START LOOKING IN THE MIRROR FROM QUITE YOU KNOW, WOMEN CAN START LOOKING IN THE MIRROR FROM QUITE A YOUNG AGE AND START THINKING, LOOKING IN THE MIRROR FROM QUITE A YOUNG AGE AND START THINKING, OH DEAR, OH DEAR, I'VE CAUGHT A YOUNG AGE AND START THINKING, OH DEAR, OH DEAR, I'VE CAUGHT THE DISEASE OF OLD AGE.
OH DEAR, OH DEAR, I'VE CAUGHT THE DISEASE OF OLD AGE.
>> AS A LIFELONG FEMINIST SEGAL THE DISEASE OF OLD AGE.
>> AS A LIFELONG FEMINIST SEGAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN AWARE OF GENDER >> AS A LIFELONG FEMINIST SEGAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN AWARE OF GENDER STEREOTYPES.
HAS ALWAYS BEEN AWARE OF GENDER STEREOTYPES.
SHE REJECTED THE IDEA THAT YOUTH STEREOTYPES.
SHE REJECTED THE IDEA THAT YOUTH AND BEAUTY ARE THE ONLY MEANS BY SHE REJECTED THE IDEA THAT YOUTH AND BEAUTY ARE THE ONLY MEANS BY WHICH WOMEN COULD BE RECOGNIZED.
AND BEAUTY ARE THE ONLY MEANS BY WHICH WOMEN COULD BE RECOGNIZED.
SHE FAULTS YOUTHFUL SECOND-WAVE WHICH WOMEN COULD BE RECOGNIZED.
SHE FAULTS YOUTHFUL SECOND-WAVE FEMINISTS, HERSELF INCLUDED, FOR SHE FAULTS YOUTHFUL SECOND-WAVE FEMINISTS, HERSELF INCLUDED, FOR BEING NARCISSISTIC AND FAILING FEMINISTS, HERSELF INCLUDED, FOR BEING NARCISSISTIC AND FAILING TO CONSIDER THE STIGMA OF OLD BEING NARCISSISTIC AND FAILING TO CONSIDER THE STIGMA OF OLD AGE AND THE NEEDS OF OLDER TO CONSIDER THE STIGMA OF OLD AGE AND THE NEEDS OF OLDER WOMEN.
AGE AND THE NEEDS OF OLDER WOMEN.
>> I WAS ON THE FIRST MARCH IN WOMEN.
>> I WAS ON THE FIRST MARCH IN 1971 IN LONDON AND WE SANG >> I WAS ON THE FIRST MARCH IN 1971 IN LONDON AND WE SANG GLEEFULLY 1971 IN LONDON AND WE SANG GLEEFULLY "STAY YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL IF YOU GLEEFULLY "STAY YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL IF YOU WANT TO BE LOVED."
"STAY YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL IF YOU WANT TO BE LOVED."
AND SO FAIRLY EARLY ON WE BEGAN WANT TO BE LOVED."
AND SO FAIRLY EARLY ON WE BEGAN BEING ACCUSED OF OURSELVES BEING AND SO FAIRLY EARLY ON WE BEGAN BEING ACCUSED OF OURSELVES BEING AGEIST.
BEING ACCUSED OF OURSELVES BEING AGEIST.
SO OLDER PEOPLE TOLD US THAT AGEIST.
SO OLDER PEOPLE TOLD US THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL WELCOME IN THE SO OLDER PEOPLE TOLD US THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL WELCOME IN THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT.
THEY DIDN'T FEEL WELCOME IN THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT.
>> SEGAL REGRETS THAT MISTAKE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT.
>> SEGAL REGRETS THAT MISTAKE ALL THE MORE AS SHE SEES MANY >> SEGAL REGRETS THAT MISTAKE ALL THE MORE AS SHE SEES MANY COUNTRY'S AGING POPULATION GROW ALL THE MORE AS SHE SEES MANY COUNTRY'S AGING POPULATION GROW LARGER.
COUNTRY'S AGING POPULATION GROW LARGER.
SHE'S PERPLEXED THAT DESPITE LARGER.
SHE'S PERPLEXED THAT DESPITE LONGER LIFESPANS PEOPLE APPEAR SHE'S PERPLEXED THAT DESPITE LONGER LIFESPANS PEOPLE APPEAR TO BE LESS ACCEPTING OF GROWING LONGER LIFESPANS PEOPLE APPEAR TO BE LESS ACCEPTING OF GROWING OLD.
TO BE LESS ACCEPTING OF GROWING OLD.
>> NOWADAYS WE'RE ALL LIVING OLD.
>> NOWADAYS WE'RE ALL LIVING LONGER AND THERE ARE A LOT OF >> NOWADAYS WE'RE ALL LIVING LONGER AND THERE ARE A LOT OF US, AND THAT HAS MADE MOST LONGER AND THERE ARE A LOT OF US, AND THAT HAS MADE MOST SOCIETIES MORE WORRIED AND US, AND THAT HAS MADE MOST SOCIETIES MORE WORRIED AND FEARFUL ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH SOCIETIES MORE WORRIED AND FEARFUL ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS AGING POPULATION.
FEARFUL ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS AGING POPULATION.
SO IN CHINA, FOR INSTANCE, WE THIS AGING POPULATION.
SO IN CHINA, FOR INSTANCE, WE CERTAINLY HEAR THAT THE ELDERLY SO IN CHINA, FOR INSTANCE, WE CERTAINLY HEAR THAT THE ELDERLY ARE RESPECTED, BUT THAT ISN'T CERTAINLY HEAR THAT THE ELDERLY ARE RESPECTED, BUT THAT ISN'T EXACTLY TRUE BECAUSE ONLY SIX ARE RESPECTED, BUT THAT ISN'T EXACTLY TRUE BECAUSE ONLY SIX MONTHS AGO THEY HAD TO PASS A EXACTLY TRUE BECAUSE ONLY SIX MONTHS AGO THEY HAD TO PASS A LAW SAYING THAT YOUNG PEOPLE MONTHS AGO THEY HAD TO PASS A LAW SAYING THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD BE SENT TO JAIL IF THEY LAW SAYING THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD BE SENT TO JAIL IF THEY DIDN'T LOOK AFTER THEIR ELDERLY WOULD BE SENT TO JAIL IF THEY DIDN'T LOOK AFTER THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS.
DIDN'T LOOK AFTER THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS.
>> WOMEN WHO REACH 65 ARE PARENTS.
>> WOMEN WHO REACH 65 ARE EXPECTED TO LIVE AN AVERAGE OF >> WOMEN WHO REACH 65 ARE EXPECTED TO LIVE AN AVERAGE OF 20 MORE YEARS, SO MAKING THOSE EXPECTED TO LIVE AN AVERAGE OF 20 MORE YEARS, SO MAKING THOSE YEARS COUNT CAN BE VERY 20 MORE YEARS, SO MAKING THOSE YEARS COUNT CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT.
YEARS COUNT CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT.
>> MY VIEWS HAVE NOT CHANGED IMPORTANT.
>> MY VIEWS HAVE NOT CHANGED GREATLY ABOUT THE WORLD, ABOUT >> MY VIEWS HAVE NOT CHANGED GREATLY ABOUT THE WORLD, ABOUT WHAT I'D, LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, GREATLY ABOUT THE WORLD, ABOUT WHAT I'D, LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, UM THE HOPES I HAVE FOR WELL, WHAT I'D, LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, UM THE HOPES I HAVE FOR WELL, FOR GREATER EQUALITY, GREATER UM THE HOPES I HAVE FOR WELL, FOR GREATER EQUALITY, GREATER JUSTICE AND SO ON.
FOR GREATER EQUALITY, GREATER JUSTICE AND SO ON.
WHAT DOES CHANGE IS HOW THE JUSTICE AND SO ON.
WHAT DOES CHANGE IS HOW THE WORLD LOOKS AT US AS FRAIL OR WHAT DOES CHANGE IS HOW THE WORLD LOOKS AT US AS FRAIL OR WEAK OR IRRELEVANT TO ITS WORLD LOOKS AT US AS FRAIL OR WEAK OR IRRELEVANT TO ITS ONGOING PRODUCTIVE FORCES.
WEAK OR IRRELEVANT TO ITS ONGOING PRODUCTIVE FORCES.
BUT OF COURSE THAT'S NOT LIKELY ONGOING PRODUCTIVE FORCES.
BUT OF COURSE THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE HOW YOU SEE YOURSELF.
BUT OF COURSE THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE HOW YOU SEE YOURSELF.
YOU STILL HAVE AN IMAGE OF TO BE HOW YOU SEE YOURSELF.
YOU STILL HAVE AN IMAGE OF YOURSELF, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR YOU STILL HAVE AN IMAGE OF YOURSELF, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE IMAGE THAT YOU'VE ALWAYS YOURSELF, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE IMAGE THAT YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD.
TO THE IMAGE THAT YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD.
>> NOW DID WE GET FROM TRIBAL HAD.
>> NOW DID WE GET FROM TRIBAL SOCIETIES WHERE THE ELDERS ARE >> NOW DID WE GET FROM TRIBAL SOCIETIES WHERE THE ELDERS ARE ALWAYS REVERED TO WHERE WE ARE SOCIETIES WHERE THE ELDERS ARE ALWAYS REVERED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN MODERN SOCIETY WHICH IS ALWAYS REVERED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN MODERN SOCIETY WHICH IS THROW THE OLD PERSON OUT WITH TODAY IN MODERN SOCIETY WHICH IS THROW THE OLD PERSON OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.
THROW THE OLD PERSON OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.
>> I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BATH WATER.
>> I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH US.
>> I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH US.
>> WE STARTED IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH US.
>> WE STARTED IT.
BABY BOOMERS STARTED IT.
>> WE STARTED IT.
BABY BOOMERS STARTED IT.
WE WEREN'T GOING TO TRUST BABY BOOMERS STARTED IT.
WE WEREN'T GOING TO TRUST ANYBODY OVER 30 NOW IT'S COMING WE WEREN'T GOING TO TRUST ANYBODY OVER 30 NOW IT'S COMING HOME.
ANYBODY OVER 30 NOW IT'S COMING HOME.
>> I DON'T ZOO THAT -- A LITTLE HOME.
>> I DON'T ZOO THAT -- A LITTLE JUSTICE TO THIS.
>> I DON'T ZOO THAT -- A LITTLE JUSTICE TO THIS.
THE TRUTH IS, LOOK AT THE OTHER JUSTICE TO THIS.
THE TRUTH IS, LOOK AT THE OTHER WRITERS, GAIL SHEHEE THINK OF THE TRUTH IS, LOOK AT THE OTHER WRITERS, GAIL SHEHEE THINK OF YOURSELF IMAGINE A NEW LIFETIME.
WRITERS, GAIL SHEHEE THINK OF YOURSELF IMAGINE A NEW LIFETIME.
JANE PAULEY WRITING THE BOOK HOW YOURSELF IMAGINE A NEW LIFETIME.
JANE PAULEY WRITING THE BOOK HOW EXCITING IT IS TO BE IN THE JANE PAULEY WRITING THE BOOK HOW EXCITING IT IS TO BE IN THE STAGE WHERE YOU'RE NOT RAISING EXCITING IT IS TO BE IN THE STAGE WHERE YOU'RE NOT RAISING YOUR CHILDREN ANY MORE, YOU CAN STAGE WHERE YOU'RE NOT RAISING YOUR CHILDREN ANY MORE, YOU CAN FIND A MISSION AND WORK ON THAT YOUR CHILDREN ANY MORE, YOU CAN FIND A MISSION AND WORK ON THAT TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE EXCITING FIND A MISSION AND WORK ON THAT TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE EXCITING TIME WHERE YOU'RE UNENCUMBERED.
TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE EXCITING TIME WHERE YOU'RE UNENCUMBERED.
A LITTLE MORE AUTHENTIC.
TIME WHERE YOU'RE UNENCUMBERED.
A LITTLE MORE AUTHENTIC.
THE KICKER IN OUR CAPITAL LIST A LITTLE MORE AUTHENTIC.
THE KICKER IN OUR CAPITAL LIST SOCIETY THERE'S 7 $$71 TRILLION THE KICKER IN OUR CAPITAL LIST SOCIETY THERE'S 7 $$71 TRILLION THAT WILL TRANSFER IN THE NEXT SOCIETY THERE'S 7 $$71 TRILLION THAT WILL TRANSFER IN THE NEXT 40 YEARS AND FAST MAJORITY OF THAT WILL TRANSFER IN THE NEXT 40 YEARS AND FAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING 40 YEARS AND FAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING TO WOMEN THROUGH INHERITANCE, THAT IS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING TO WOMEN THROUGH INHERITANCE, WOMEN TEND TO LIVE LONGER TO WOMEN THROUGH INHERITANCE, WOMEN TEND TO LIVE LONGER THROUGH PARENTS AND HUSBANDS, WOMEN TEND TO LIVE LONGER THROUGH PARENTS AND HUSBANDS, THE AVERAGE AGE OF A WIDOW IS 56 THROUGH PARENTS AND HUSBANDS, THE AVERAGE AGE OF A WIDOW IS 56 YEARS OLD.
THE AVERAGE AGE OF A WIDOW IS 56 YEARS OLD.
THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE YEARS OLD.
THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE ECONOMIC CLOUT, THE MARKET IS THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE ECONOMIC CLOUT, THE MARKET IS STARTING TO RESPOND TO THAT, I ECONOMIC CLOUT, THE MARKET IS STARTING TO RESPOND TO THAT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN STARTING TO RESPOND TO THAT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING TIME.
THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING TIME.
>> I WANT TO BLAME HOLLYWOOD.
EXCITING TIME.
>> I WANT TO BLAME HOLLYWOOD.
[LAUGHTER] >> I WANT TO BLAME HOLLYWOOD.
[LAUGHTER] REALLY, POPULAR CULTURE, SHE HAS [LAUGHTER] REALLY, POPULAR CULTURE, SHE HAS VERY IMPORTANT POINT, YOUR POINT REALLY, POPULAR CULTURE, SHE HAS VERY IMPORTANT POINT, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN BECAUSE MONEY WILL VERY IMPORTANT POINT, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN BECAUSE MONEY WILL BE THERE HOPEFULLY THE MARKET IS WELL TAKEN BECAUSE MONEY WILL BE THERE HOPEFULLY THE MARKET AND HOW CULTURE IS GOING TO BE THERE HOPEFULLY THE MARKET AND HOW CULTURE IS GOING TO DESCRIBE OLDER WOMEN, GOING TO AND HOW CULTURE IS GOING TO DESCRIBE OLDER WOMEN, GOING TO TURN MORE POSITIVE BECAUSE THEY DESCRIBE OLDER WOMEN, GOING TO TURN MORE POSITIVE BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM.
TURN MORE POSITIVE BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM.
YOU LOOK AT THE ACTRESSES, HOW NEED THEM.
YOU LOOK AT THE ACTRESSES, HOW MANY SURVIVE TURNING 50.
YOU LOOK AT THE ACTRESSES, HOW MANY SURVIVE TURNING 50.
>> BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH MANY SURVIVE TURNING 50.
>> BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH PLASTIC SURGERY.
>> BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH PLASTIC SURGERY.
>> BUT IT'S CHALLENGING, I'M PLASTIC SURGERY.
>> BUT IT'S CHALLENGING, I'M GOING THROUGH IT MYSELF THAT >> BUT IT'S CHALLENGING, I'M GOING THROUGH IT MYSELF THAT TRANSITION IN TO MUCH OLDER AND GOING THROUGH IT MYSELF THAT TRANSITION IN TO MUCH OLDER AND IT'S CHALLENGING.
TRANSITION IN TO MUCH OLDER AND IT'S CHALLENGING.
>> NO DOUBT PEOPLE LOVE YOUTH.
IT'S CHALLENGING.
>> NO DOUBT PEOPLE LOVE YOUTH.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN >> NO DOUBT PEOPLE LOVE YOUTH.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN HOLLYWOOD, WHERE YOU SEE IN THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN HOLLYWOOD, WHERE YOU SEE IN MAGAZINES AND THE LIKE.
HOLLYWOOD, WHERE YOU SEE IN MAGAZINES AND THE LIKE.
I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE MAGAZINES AND THE LIKE.
I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE AT PLAY HERE WHETHER IT'S IN I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE AT PLAY HERE WHETHER IT'S IN CHINA, NOT JUST THIS COUNTRY BUT AT PLAY HERE WHETHER IT'S IN CHINA, NOT JUST THIS COUNTRY BUT WE'RE NOT AS CONNECTED AS CHINA, NOT JUST THIS COUNTRY BUT WE'RE NOT AS CONNECTED AS FAMILIES GENERATIONALLY AS WE WE'RE NOT AS CONNECTED AS FAMILIES GENERATIONALLY AS WE USED TO HAVE TO BE.
FAMILIES GENERATIONALLY AS WE USED TO HAVE TO BE.
CHILDREN USED TO HAVE TO TAKE USED TO HAVE TO BE.
CHILDREN USED TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PARENTS, BECAUSE CHILDREN USED TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PARENTS, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF YOURS, CARE OF THEIR PARENTS, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF YOURS, THERE WAS A WHOLE THING THERE.
YOU DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF YOURS, THERE WAS A WHOLE THING THERE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT THERE WAS A WHOLE THING THERE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT THE WAY THAT WE DO TODAY.
UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT THE WAY THAT WE DO TODAY.
IT'S GREAT THAT ELDERLY FOLKS THE WAY THAT WE DO TODAY.
IT'S GREAT THAT ELDERLY FOLKS ARE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT'S GREAT THAT ELDERLY FOLKS ARE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES BUT THERE'S NOT ARE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES BUT THERE'S NOT INTERDEPENDENCY AMONG THEMSELVES BUT THERE'S NOT INTERDEPENDENCY AMONG GENERATIONS, THERE ARE INTERDEPENDENCY AMONG GENERATIONS, THERE ARE DOWNSIDES.
GENERATIONS, THERE ARE DOWNSIDES.
>> DO WE NEED NEW ANTI-AGEISM.
DOWNSIDES.
>> DO WE NEED NEW ANTI-AGEISM.
THE GREY PANTHERS, YOU PROBABLY >> DO WE NEED NEW ANTI-AGEISM.
THE GREY PANTHERS, YOU PROBABLY DON'T REMEMBER, THAT WAS A BIG THE GREY PANTHERS, YOU PROBABLY DON'T REMEMBER, THAT WAS A BIG MOVEMENT AT SOME POINT.
DON'T REMEMBER, THAT WAS A BIG MOVEMENT AT SOME POINT.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE OF MOVEMENT AT SOME POINT.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE OF MY GENERATION DISRESPECT OLDER >> I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE OF MY GENERATION DISRESPECT OLDER PEOPLE OR THINK LESS OF THEM, I MY GENERATION DISRESPECT OLDER PEOPLE OR THINK LESS OF THEM, I TEND TO THINK THAT WE REVERE A PEOPLE OR THINK LESS OF THEM, I TEND TO THINK THAT WE REVERE A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE IN POLITICS TEND TO THINK THAT WE REVERE A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE IN POLITICS AND BUSINESS AND WHAT NOT.
LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE IN POLITICS AND BUSINESS AND WHAT NOT.
YOU DON'T SEE PEOPLE LOOKING AT AND BUSINESS AND WHAT NOT.
YOU DON'T SEE PEOPLE LOOKING AT CANNED LISA RICE SAYING, SHE'S YOU DON'T SEE PEOPLE LOOKING AT CANNED LISA RICE SAYING, SHE'S OLD.
CANNED LISA RICE SAYING, SHE'S OLD.
BUT I DO THINK, I WAS THINKING OLD.
BUT I DO THINK, I WAS THINKING THIS THE WHOLE TIME TALKING BUT I DO THINK, I WAS THINKING THIS THE WHOLE TIME TALKING BEFORE, I FEAR GETTING OLDER THIS THE WHOLE TIME TALKING BEFORE, I FEAR GETTING OLDER MOSTLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BEFORE, I FEAR GETTING OLDER MOSTLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DIE.
MOSTLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DIE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT LOOKS.
DIE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT LOOKS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE WAY I'LL IT'S NOT ABOUT LOOKS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE WAY I'LL BE TREATED.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE WAY I'LL BE TREATED.
I'M MOTIVATED BECAUSE I DON'T BE TREATED.
I'M MOTIVATED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DIE.
I'M MOTIVATED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DIE.
>> YOU TELL ME THAT AFTER YOU WANT TO DIE.
>> YOU TELL ME THAT AFTER YOU GET YOUR FIRST WRINKLE.
>> YOU TELL ME THAT AFTER YOU GET YOUR FIRST WRINKLE.
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