Look Ahead 2014

01/03/2014 | 25m 47s | Video has closed captioning.

From watching what Pope Francis will do as he finishes his first year to major court cases on religious liberty to immigration reform, it’s our annual look ahead to the top religion and ethics stories we expect to be covering in 2014.

Aired: 01/03/14

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>>> COMING UP, OUR ANNUAL LOOK >>> COMING UP, OUR ANNUAL LOOK AHEAD AT THE STORIES WE EXPECT >>> COMING UP, OUR ANNUAL LOOK AHEAD AT THE STORIES WE EXPECT TO BE THE TOP RELIGION AND AHEAD AT THE STORIES WE EXPECT TO BE THE TOP RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS OF 2014.

TO BE THE TOP RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS OF 2014.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOUR RETIREMENT ETHICS NEWS OF 2014.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY.

>>> WELCOME, I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US, >>> WELCOME, I'M BOB ABERNETHY.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US, FOR OUR ANNUAL LOOK AHEAD AT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US, FOR OUR ANNUAL LOOK AHEAD AT WHAT THE TOP "RELIGION AND FOR OUR ANNUAL LOOK AHEAD AT WHAT THE TOP "RELIGION AND ETHICS" STORIES OF THE NEW YEAR WHAT THE TOP "RELIGION AND ETHICS" STORIES OF THE NEW YEAR MIGHT BE.

ETHICS" STORIES OF THE NEW YEAR MIGHT BE.

E.J.

DIONNE IS HERE.

MIGHT BE.

E.J.

DIONNE IS HERE.

HE IS A SENIOR FELLOW AT THE E.J.

DIONNE IS HERE.

HE IS A SENIOR FELLOW AT THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION IN HE IS A SENIOR FELLOW AT THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION IN WASHINGTON, A COLUMNIST FOR "THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION IN WASHINGTON, A COLUMNIST FOR "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND A PROFESSOR WASHINGTON, A COLUMNIST FOR "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND A PROFESSOR AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY.

WASHINGTON POST" AND A PROFESSOR AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY.

KEVIN ECKSTROM IS THE AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY.

KEVIN ECKSTROM IS THE EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF RELIGION NEWS KEVIN ECKSTROM IS THE EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF RELIGION NEWS SERVICE.

EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF RELIGION NEWS SERVICE.

AND KIM LAWTON IS MANAGING SERVICE.

AND KIM LAWTON IS MANAGING EDITOR OF THIS PROGRAM.

AS PREPARATION FOR OUR EDITOR OF THIS PROGRAM.

AS PREPARATION FOR OUR DISCUSSION, WE SPOKE WITH A AS PREPARATION FOR OUR DISCUSSION, WE SPOKE WITH A GREAT VARIETY OF YOUNG LEADERS DISCUSSION, WE SPOKE WITH A GREAT VARIETY OF YOUNG LEADERS ABOUT THE THINGS THEY EXPECT AND GREAT VARIETY OF YOUNG LEADERS ABOUT THE THINGS THEY EXPECT AND WANT TO HAPPEN IN 2014.

ABOUT THE THINGS THEY EXPECT AND WANT TO HAPPEN IN 2014.

>> I THINK THAT THE MOST WANT TO HAPPEN IN 2014.

>> I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT RELIGIOUS AND ETHICAL >> I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT RELIGIOUS AND ETHICAL QUESTIONS OF 2014 ARE GOING TO IMPORTANT RELIGIOUS AND ETHICAL QUESTIONS OF 2014 ARE GOING TO BE US TRYING TO PULL APART WHAT QUESTIONS OF 2014 ARE GOING TO BE US TRYING TO PULL APART WHAT CHURCH AND STATE MEANS, HOW DO BE US TRYING TO PULL APART WHAT CHURCH AND STATE MEANS, HOW DO WE NEGOTIATE DIFFERENT SETS OF CHURCH AND STATE MEANS, HOW DO WE NEGOTIATE DIFFERENT SETS OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM?

WE NEGOTIATE DIFFERENT SETS OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM?

>> HOW WILL WE BE TREATING THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM?

>> HOW WILL WE BE TREATING THE UNBORN IN AMERICA, PARTICULARLY >> HOW WILL WE BE TREATING THE UNBORN IN AMERICA, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO GOVERNMENT LAW UNBORN IN AMERICA, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO GOVERNMENT LAW THAT IS COERCING PEOPLE INTO WITH RESPECT TO GOVERNMENT LAW THAT IS COERCING PEOPLE INTO DISRESPECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE THAT IS COERCING PEOPLE INTO DISRESPECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE UNBORN?

DISRESPECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE UNBORN?

SO WE SEE THIS IN A RELIGIOUS UNBORN?

SO WE SEE THIS IN A RELIGIOUS LIBERTY CONTEXT WITH THE HHS SO WE SEE THIS IN A RELIGIOUS LIBERTY CONTEXT WITH THE HHS MANDATE CASES THAT ARE GOING TO LIBERTY CONTEXT WITH THE HHS MANDATE CASES THAT ARE GOING TO GO BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

MANDATE CASES THAT ARE GOING TO GO BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

>> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT GO BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

>> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES ARE REALLY GOING TO BE >> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES ARE REALLY GOING TO BE SURROUNDING QUESTIONS OF OUR ISSUES ARE REALLY GOING TO BE SURROUNDING QUESTIONS OF OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS SURROUNDING QUESTIONS OF OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

QUESTIONS OF PUBLIC ACCESS, OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

QUESTIONS OF PUBLIC ACCESS, PARTICULARLY AS, HISTORICALLY, QUESTIONS OF PUBLIC ACCESS, PARTICULARLY AS, HISTORICALLY, MINORITY COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD A PARTICULARLY AS, HISTORICALLY, MINORITY COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE IN TERMS OF MINORITY COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE IN TERMS OF HAVING EQUAL AND EQUITABLE LOT OF TROUBLE IN TERMS OF HAVING EQUAL AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE AND TO HAVING EQUAL AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE AND TO EDUCATION -- THINGS THAT REALLY ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE AND TO EDUCATION -- THINGS THAT REALLY AFFECT OUR COMMUNITIES.

EDUCATION -- THINGS THAT REALLY AFFECT OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ETHICAL AFFECT OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ETHICAL ISSUE, THE BROAD UMBRELLA, WOULD >> THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ETHICAL ISSUE, THE BROAD UMBRELLA, WOULD BE DISCRIMINATION.

ISSUE, THE BROAD UMBRELLA, WOULD BE DISCRIMINATION.

SIKH AMERICANS ARE SUBJECTED TO, BE DISCRIMINATION.

SIKH AMERICANS ARE SUBJECTED TO, AND TARGETED IN, DISCRIMINATION SIKH AMERICANS ARE SUBJECTED TO, AND TARGETED IN, DISCRIMINATION ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND TARGETED IN, DISCRIMINATION ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND THERE ARE MANY WAYS IN WHICH ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND THERE ARE MANY WAYS IN WHICH THIS EMERGES.

CURRENTLY SIKH AMERICANS ARE NOT THIS EMERGES.

CURRENTLY SIKH AMERICANS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SERVE WITH THEIR CURRENTLY SIKH AMERICANS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SERVE WITH THEIR TURBANS AND BEARDS IN THE ARMED ALLOWED TO SERVE WITH THEIR TURBANS AND BEARDS IN THE ARMED FORCES.

TURBANS AND BEARDS IN THE ARMED FORCES.

SO THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE THAT FORCES.

SO THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE'RE HOPING TO ADDRESS.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GET THE WE'RE HOPING TO ADDRESS.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GET THE MOST PRESS FROM OUR COMMUNITY >> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GET THE MOST PRESS FROM OUR COMMUNITY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXTREMISTS, MOST PRESS FROM OUR COMMUNITY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXTREMISTS, WHO DON'T ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXTREMISTS, WHO DON'T ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS.

WHO DON'T ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS.

SO I THINK AS A YOUNG PERSON, AS MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS.

SO I THINK AS A YOUNG PERSON, AS SOMEONE WHO'S GROWING UP IN THE SO I THINK AS A YOUNG PERSON, AS SOMEONE WHO'S GROWING UP IN THE UNITED STATES, IT'S OUR JOB TO SOMEONE WHO'S GROWING UP IN THE UNITED STATES, IT'S OUR JOB TO KIND OF STAND UP TO THESE PEOPLE UNITED STATES, IT'S OUR JOB TO KIND OF STAND UP TO THESE PEOPLE AND TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEM TO KIND OF STAND UP TO THESE PEOPLE AND TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEM TO THE MEDIA, OR THINGS THAT WE AND TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEM TO THE MEDIA, OR THINGS THAT WE WRITE TO SHOW THAT WHAT ISLAM THE MEDIA, OR THINGS THAT WE WRITE TO SHOW THAT WHAT ISLAM REALLY IS ABOUT IS NOT VIOLENCE.

WRITE TO SHOW THAT WHAT ISLAM REALLY IS ABOUT IS NOT VIOLENCE.

IT'S ABOUT PEACE AND REALLY IS ABOUT IS NOT VIOLENCE.

IT'S ABOUT PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT UNDERSTANDING.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION, THERE'S A LOT OF >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS.

IMMIGRATION, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS.

FIRST, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE REASONS.

FIRST, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED, THIS IS FIRST, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED, THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHOM WE WORSHIP PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED, THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHOM WE WORSHIP WITH ON SUNDAYS AND WHO ARE OUR ABOUT PEOPLE WHOM WE WORSHIP WITH ON SUNDAYS AND WHO ARE OUR NEIGHBORS AND WHO REALLY ARE OUR WITH ON SUNDAYS AND WHO ARE OUR NEIGHBORS AND WHO REALLY ARE OUR FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS AND WHO REALLY ARE OUR FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT SECONDLY, IT'S ALSO FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT SECONDLY, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR EVANGELICALS BUT SECONDLY, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR EVANGELICALS BECAUSE THERE'S A SCRIPTURAL IMPORTANT FOR EVANGELICALS BECAUSE THERE'S A SCRIPTURAL MANDATE THAT AS CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THERE'S A SCRIPTURAL MANDATE THAT AS CHRISTIANS, WE'RE CALLED TO WELCOME THE MANDATE THAT AS CHRISTIANS, WE'RE CALLED TO WELCOME THE STRANGER AMONG US.

WE'RE CALLED TO WELCOME THE STRANGER AMONG US.

>> YOUNGER JEWS ARE ACTUALLY STRANGER AMONG US.

>> YOUNGER JEWS ARE ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY THAN OLDER JEWS TO >> YOUNGER JEWS ARE ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY THAN OLDER JEWS TO GIVE TO JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS MORE LIKELY THAN OLDER JEWS TO GIVE TO JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS WORKING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD GIVE TO JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS WORKING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AND TO WORKING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AND TO INTERNATIONAL AID.

AND COMMUNITY AND TO INTERNATIONAL AID.

AND THAT RAISES A KEY QUESTION INTERNATIONAL AID.

AND THAT RAISES A KEY QUESTION THAT I THINK WE'LL BE AND THAT RAISES A KEY QUESTION THAT I THINK WE'LL BE CONFRONTING -- YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT THAT I THINK WE'LL BE CONFRONTING -- YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT JUST JEWS -- IN 2014.

CONFRONTING -- YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT JUST JEWS -- IN 2014.

WHICH IS, WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH JUST JEWS -- IN 2014.

WHICH IS, WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH NEED AT HOME, HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY WHICH IS, WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH NEED AT HOME, HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY GIVING CHARITABLE GIFTS AROUND NEED AT HOME, HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY GIVING CHARITABLE GIFTS AROUND THE WORLD?

GIVING CHARITABLE GIFTS AROUND THE WORLD?

AND WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH NEED THE WORLD?

AND WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH NEED AROUND THE WORLD, HOW CAN WE NOT AND WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH NEED AROUND THE WORLD, HOW CAN WE NOT JUSTIFY GIVING THOSE GIFTS AWAY?

AROUND THE WORLD, HOW CAN WE NOT JUSTIFY GIVING THOSE GIFTS AWAY?

>> HINDUS ARE GOING TO BE JUSTIFY GIVING THOSE GIFTS AWAY?

>> HINDUS ARE GOING TO BE INCREASINGLY LOOKING AT THEIR >> HINDUS ARE GOING TO BE INCREASINGLY LOOKING AT THEIR RELIGIOUS, SCRIPTURAL BACKGROUND INCREASINGLY LOOKING AT THEIR RELIGIOUS, SCRIPTURAL BACKGROUND IN ORDER TO ADDRESS A GROWING RELIGIOUS, SCRIPTURAL BACKGROUND IN ORDER TO ADDRESS A GROWING ISSUE FOR ALL OF SOCIETY AND IN ORDER TO ADDRESS A GROWING ISSUE FOR ALL OF SOCIETY AND THAT IS CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW ISSUE FOR ALL OF SOCIETY AND THAT IS CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW WE AS HUMANITY TREAT OUR THAT IS CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW WE AS HUMANITY TREAT OUR ENVIRONMENT.

WE AS HUMANITY TREAT OUR ENVIRONMENT.

>> 92% OF REFORM JEWS SUPPORT ENVIRONMENT.

>> 92% OF REFORM JEWS SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY, AND 20% OF >> 92% OF REFORM JEWS SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY, AND 20% OF ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY, AND 20% OF ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY, WHICH IS A VERY ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY, WHICH IS A VERY SURPRISING NUMBER.

HOMOSEXUALITY, WHICH IS A VERY SURPRISING NUMBER.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE NOT SURPRISING NUMBER.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANY THEOLOGICAL ACTION, I BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANY THEOLOGICAL ACTION, I THINK, COMING FROM THOSE SPHERES SEEING ANY THEOLOGICAL ACTION, I THINK, COMING FROM THOSE SPHERES TO TRY TO ARTICULATE WHY THIS IS THINK, COMING FROM THOSE SPHERES TO TRY TO ARTICULATE WHY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

TO TRY TO ARTICULATE WHY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

IT WOULD BE A VERY HELPFUL AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

IT WOULD BE A VERY HELPFUL THING, IT WOULD BE A VERY IT WOULD BE A VERY HELPFUL THING, IT WOULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR THE JEWISH THING, IT WOULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR THE JEWISH WORLD TO ARTICULATE WHY GAY IMPORTANT THING FOR THE JEWISH WORLD TO ARTICULATE WHY GAY RIGHTS IS CONSISTENT WITH A WORLD TO ARTICULATE WHY GAY RIGHTS IS CONSISTENT WITH A RELIGIOUS MESSAGE.

RIGHTS IS CONSISTENT WITH A RELIGIOUS MESSAGE.

>> HOW ARE WE GUARANTEEING OR RELIGIOUS MESSAGE.

>> HOW ARE WE GUARANTEEING OR FURTHERING, ADVANCING THE GOAL >> HOW ARE WE GUARANTEEING OR FURTHERING, ADVANCING THE GOAL OF HAVING A MARRIED MOM AND DAD FURTHERING, ADVANCING THE GOAL OF HAVING A MARRIED MOM AND DAD FOR EVERY CHILD.

OF HAVING A MARRIED MOM AND DAD FOR EVERY CHILD.

SO THE QUESTION OF MARRIAGE FOR EVERY CHILD.

SO THE QUESTION OF MARRIAGE DEFINITION, MARRIAGE SO THE QUESTION OF MARRIAGE DEFINITION, MARRIAGE REDEFINITION, BUT JUST MORE DEFINITION, MARRIAGE REDEFINITION, BUT JUST MORE BROADLY, OF A MARRIAGE CULTURE.

REDEFINITION, BUT JUST MORE BROADLY, OF A MARRIAGE CULTURE.

ARE AMERICANS FOSTERING THE TYPE BROADLY, OF A MARRIAGE CULTURE.

ARE AMERICANS FOSTERING THE TYPE OF CULTURE IN WHICH EVERY CHILD ARE AMERICANS FOSTERING THE TYPE OF CULTURE IN WHICH EVERY CHILD IS VIEWED AS A GIFT OF GOD, HAS OF CULTURE IN WHICH EVERY CHILD IS VIEWED AS A GIFT OF GOD, HAS A RIGHT TO LIFE, BUT ALSO HAS A IS VIEWED AS A GIFT OF GOD, HAS A RIGHT TO LIFE, BUT ALSO HAS A RIGHT TO LIFE INSIDE OF A A RIGHT TO LIFE, BUT ALSO HAS A RIGHT TO LIFE INSIDE OF A MARITAL FAMILY, INSIDE OF A RIGHT TO LIFE INSIDE OF A MARITAL FAMILY, INSIDE OF A FAMILY THAT CONNECTS THAT CHILD MARITAL FAMILY, INSIDE OF A FAMILY THAT CONNECTS THAT CHILD WITH HIS OR HER MOM AND DAD?

FAMILY THAT CONNECTS THAT CHILD WITH HIS OR HER MOM AND DAD?

>> I THINK GUN CONTROL IS A BIG WITH HIS OR HER MOM AND DAD?

>> I THINK GUN CONTROL IS A BIG ISSUE AND HOW TO DO VIOLENCE >> I THINK GUN CONTROL IS A BIG ISSUE AND HOW TO DO VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND WHETHER IT'S ISSUE AND HOW TO DO VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND WHETHER IT'S VIOLENCE THAT HAPPENS BASED -- PREVENTION AND WHETHER IT'S VIOLENCE THAT HAPPENS BASED -- THAT'S RANDOM, OR VIOLENCE VIOLENCE THAT HAPPENS BASED -- THAT'S RANDOM, OR VIOLENCE THAT'S TARGETED BASED ON ANY THAT'S RANDOM, OR VIOLENCE THAT'S TARGETED BASED ON ANY PARTICULAR REASON.

THAT'S TARGETED BASED ON ANY PARTICULAR REASON.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN PARTICULAR REASON.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE?

ABOUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE?

THERE ISN'T MAYBE ONE SOLUTION, ISSUE?

THERE ISN'T MAYBE ONE SOLUTION, BUT HOW DO WE GET TOGETHER THERE ISN'T MAYBE ONE SOLUTION, BUT HOW DO WE GET TOGETHER ACROSS DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BUT HOW DO WE GET TOGETHER ACROSS DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS AND PEOPLE WITHOUT ACROSS DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS AND PEOPLE WITHOUT RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS TO SOLVE TRADITIONS AND PEOPLE WITHOUT RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS TO SOLVE THE VIOLENCE THAT SEEMS TO BE RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS TO SOLVE THE VIOLENCE THAT SEEMS TO BE HITTING OUR COUNTRY AGAIN AND THE VIOLENCE THAT SEEMS TO BE HITTING OUR COUNTRY AGAIN AND AGAIN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

HITTING OUR COUNTRY AGAIN AND AGAIN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

>> IS IT SAFE TO BE YOUNG AND AGAIN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

>> IS IT SAFE TO BE YOUNG AND BLACK ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY?

IS IT SAFE TO ASK YOUR NEIGHBOR BLACK ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY?

IS IT SAFE TO ASK YOUR NEIGHBOR FOR HELP OUT OF FEAR THEY MIGHT IS IT SAFE TO ASK YOUR NEIGHBOR FOR HELP OUT OF FEAR THEY MIGHT SHOOT YOU?

FOR HELP OUT OF FEAR THEY MIGHT SHOOT YOU?

>> SO I THINK LIFE'S GOING TO BE SHOOT YOU?

>> SO I THINK LIFE'S GOING TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF A LOT OF OUR >> SO I THINK LIFE'S GOING TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF A LOT OF OUR MINDS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT ON THE FOREFRONT OF A LOT OF OUR MINDS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MEANS FROM BEGINNING TO END AND MINDS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MEANS FROM BEGINNING TO END AND HOW WE TREAT LIFE AND VALUE IT.

MEANS FROM BEGINNING TO END AND HOW WE TREAT LIFE AND VALUE IT.

>> FOR YOUNG CATHOLICS IN HOW WE TREAT LIFE AND VALUE IT.

>> FOR YOUNG CATHOLICS IN AMERICA, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF >> FOR YOUNG CATHOLICS IN AMERICA, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF POLARIZATION BETWEEN AMERICA, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF POLARIZATION BETWEEN CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS AND A POLARIZATION BETWEEN CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS AND A SORT OF A BATTLE AND A NO-MAN'S CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS AND A SORT OF A BATTLE AND A NO-MAN'S LAND IN BETWEEN THEM ABOUT WHAT SORT OF A BATTLE AND A NO-MAN'S LAND IN BETWEEN THEM ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE CATHOLIC IN LAND IN BETWEEN THEM ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE CATHOLIC IN AMERICA?

DOES IT MEAN TO BE CATHOLIC IN AMERICA?

WHAT ARE THE KEY ISSUES FOR US?

AMERICA?

WHAT ARE THE KEY ISSUES FOR US?

BUT WITH POPE FRANCIS, WE'RE WHAT ARE THE KEY ISSUES FOR US?

BUT WITH POPE FRANCIS, WE'RE SEEING SOMETHING NEW.

WE'RE SEEING LOTS OF SEEING SOMETHING NEW.

WE'RE SEEING LOTS OF CONVERSATION ABOUT DIALOG AND WE'RE SEEING LOTS OF CONVERSATION ABOUT DIALOG AND EMPATHY.

CONVERSATION ABOUT DIALOG AND EMPATHY.

>> SO KEVIN, WELCOME TO YOU ALL, EMPATHY.

>> SO KEVIN, WELCOME TO YOU ALL, AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AHEAD WITH >> SO KEVIN, WELCOME TO YOU ALL, AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AHEAD WITH POPE FRANCIS?

AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AHEAD WITH POPE FRANCIS?

>> WELL, IF 2014 IS ANYTHING POPE FRANCIS?

>> WELL, IF 2014 IS ANYTHING LIKE 2013 WAS WE'RE GOING TO >> WELL, IF 2014 IS ANYTHING LIKE 2013 WAS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RENAME IT THE POPE LIKE 2013 WAS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RENAME IT THE POPE FRANCIS NEWS SERVICE BECAUSE HE HAVE TO RENAME IT THE POPE FRANCIS NEWS SERVICE BECAUSE HE KEEPS US SO BUSY.

FRANCIS NEWS SERVICE BECAUSE HE KEEPS US SO BUSY.

YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING WE CAN KEEPS US SO BUSY.

YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING WE CAN SAY FOR SURE IS TO EXPECT THE YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING WE CAN SAY FOR SURE IS TO EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED FROM THIS POPE.

SAY FOR SURE IS TO EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED FROM THIS POPE.

HE'S GOING TO KEEP EVERYONE ON UNEXPECTED FROM THIS POPE.

HE'S GOING TO KEEP EVERYONE ON THEIR TOES, BUT I THINK THREE HE'S GOING TO KEEP EVERYONE ON THEIR TOES, BUT I THINK THREE THINGS THAT ARE WORTH WATCHING.

THEIR TOES, BUT I THINK THREE THINGS THAT ARE WORTH WATCHING.

ONE IS IN FEBRUARY HE'LL BE THINGS THAT ARE WORTH WATCHING.

ONE IS IN FEBRUARY HE'LL BE NAMING A BUNCH OF NEW CARDINALS.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE NAMING A BUNCH OF NEW CARDINALS.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO GETS A RED HAT OUT OF THAT.

NUMBER TWO HE'S GOING TO MAKE WHO GETS A RED HAT OUT OF THAT.

NUMBER TWO HE'S GOING TO MAKE FORMAL SAINTS OUT OF JOHN PAUL NUMBER TWO HE'S GOING TO MAKE FORMAL SAINTS OUT OF JOHN PAUL II AND POPE JOHN XXIII AND IT FORMAL SAINTS OUT OF JOHN PAUL II AND POPE JOHN XXIII AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE II AND POPE JOHN XXIII AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE SIMILARITIES DRAWN BETWEEN HIM WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE SIMILARITIES DRAWN BETWEEN HIM AND, ESPECIALLY, JOHN XXIII.

SIMILARITIES DRAWN BETWEEN HIM AND, ESPECIALLY, JOHN XXIII.

BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT AND, ESPECIALLY, JOHN XXIII.

BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS IN OCTOBER HE'S CALLING BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS IN OCTOBER HE'S CALLING A BUNCH OF BISHOPS TOGETHER TO THING IS IN OCTOBER HE'S CALLING A BUNCH OF BISHOPS TOGETHER TO ROME TO DISCUSS ISSUES RELATING A BUNCH OF BISHOPS TOGETHER TO ROME TO DISCUSS ISSUES RELATING TO THE FAMILY, BUT THAT'S BROAD ROME TO DISCUSS ISSUES RELATING TO THE FAMILY, BUT THAT'S BROAD ENOUGH TO INCLUDE ISSUES OF TO THE FAMILY, BUT THAT'S BROAD ENOUGH TO INCLUDE ISSUES OF ABORTION AND MARRIAGE AND ENOUGH TO INCLUDE ISSUES OF ABORTION AND MARRIAGE AND CONTRACEPTION AND, AS A SIGN OF ABORTION AND MARRIAGE AND CONTRACEPTION AND, AS A SIGN OF HOW REMARKABLE THIS PAPACY IS CONTRACEPTION AND, AS A SIGN OF HOW REMARKABLE THIS PAPACY IS TURNING OUT TO BE, HE'S ACTUALLY HOW REMARKABLE THIS PAPACY IS TURNING OUT TO BE, HE'S ACTUALLY ASKED CATHOLICS AROUND THE WORLD TURNING OUT TO BE, HE'S ACTUALLY ASKED CATHOLICS AROUND THE WORLD WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS.

ASKED CATHOLICS AROUND THE WORLD WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS.

WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT CHURCH WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS.

WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT CHURCH TEACHING?

DO THEY PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT?

TEACHING?

DO THEY PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT?

DO THEY CARE ABOUT IT?

DO THEY PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT?

DO THEY CARE ABOUT IT?

AND SO THE FACT THE BISHOPS ARE DO THEY CARE ABOUT IT?

AND SO THE FACT THE BISHOPS ARE GOING TO BE COMING TOGETHER WITH AND SO THE FACT THE BISHOPS ARE GOING TO BE COMING TOGETHER WITH AT LEAST SOME KIND OF INPUT FROM GOING TO BE COMING TOGETHER WITH AT LEAST SOME KIND OF INPUT FROM THE LAITY I THINK WILL BE AT LEAST SOME KIND OF INPUT FROM THE LAITY I THINK WILL BE FASCINATING.

THE LAITY I THINK WILL BE FASCINATING.

>> KIM, DO YOU SEE ANYTHING FASCINATING.

>> KIM, DO YOU SEE ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING IN >> KIM, DO YOU SEE ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING IN THE WAY OF CHANGE ABOUT, FOR COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING IN THE WAY OF CHANGE ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, DIVORCED AND REMARRIED THE WAY OF CHANGE ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, DIVORCED AND REMARRIED CATHOLICS?

INSTANCE, DIVORCED AND REMARRIED CATHOLICS?

>> WELL, THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT CATHOLICS?

>> WELL, THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MIGHT BE SOME >> WELL, THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MIGHT BE SOME AT LEAST FRANK DISCUSSIONS, IF IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MIGHT BE SOME AT LEAST FRANK DISCUSSIONS, IF NOT CHANGES ON WHETHER CATHOLICS AT LEAST FRANK DISCUSSIONS, IF NOT CHANGES ON WHETHER CATHOLICS WHO'VE BEEN DIVORCED AND THEN NOT CHANGES ON WHETHER CATHOLICS WHO'VE BEEN DIVORCED AND THEN REMARRIED MAY TAKE COMMUNION.

WHO'VE BEEN DIVORCED AND THEN REMARRIED MAY TAKE COMMUNION.

CURRENTLY THEY CANNOT.

REMARRIED MAY TAKE COMMUNION.

CURRENTLY THEY CANNOT.

BUT I THINK THAT IS THE BIG CURRENTLY THEY CANNOT.

BUT I THINK THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION.

WE'VE SEEN A CHANGE IN STYLE, A QUESTION.

WE'VE SEEN A CHANGE IN STYLE, A CHANGE IN TONE, BUT WILL THAT WE'VE SEEN A CHANGE IN STYLE, A CHANGE IN TONE, BUT WILL THAT TRANSLATE INTO CHANGES IN CHURCH CHANGE IN TONE, BUT WILL THAT TRANSLATE INTO CHANGES IN CHURCH TEACHINGS AND TO CHANGES IN HOW TRANSLATE INTO CHANGES IN CHURCH TEACHINGS AND TO CHANGES IN HOW CATHOLICS APPROACH THINGS, TEACHINGS AND TO CHANGES IN HOW CATHOLICS APPROACH THINGS, POLICIES, AND THAT WILL BE CATHOLICS APPROACH THINGS, POLICIES, AND THAT WILL BE INTERESTING.

POLICIES, AND THAT WILL BE INTERESTING.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE POPE INTERESTING.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE POPE FRANCIS IS GOING TO HAVE MAYBE I THINK THAT'S WHERE POPE FRANCIS IS GOING TO HAVE MAYBE SOME CHALLENGES BECAUSE THERE FRANCIS IS GOING TO HAVE MAYBE SOME CHALLENGES BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF EXPECTATIONS FROM A SOME CHALLENGES BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF EXPECTATIONS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, "THIS ARE A LOT OF EXPECTATIONS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, "THIS IS MY POPE.

LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, "THIS IS MY POPE.

HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT."

IS MY POPE.

HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT."

AND, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT."

AND, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, EXPECTATIONS MAY BE HIGH, BUT HE AND, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, EXPECTATIONS MAY BE HIGH, BUT HE MAY NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO EXPECTATIONS MAY BE HIGH, BUT HE MAY NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO TEACHINGS OR POLICIES AND THEN MAY NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO TEACHINGS OR POLICIES AND THEN THE QUESTION IS WILL THAT BE TEACHINGS OR POLICIES AND THEN THE QUESTION IS WILL THAT BE ENOUGH OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF THE QUESTION IS WILL THAT BE ENOUGH OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF CHANGE?

ENOUGH OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF CHANGE?

>> BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, CHANGE?

>> BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, KEVIN WAS RIGHT TO >> BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, KEVIN WAS RIGHT TO MENTION NAMING THE CARDINALS.

FOR EXAMPLE, KEVIN WAS RIGHT TO MENTION NAMING THE CARDINALS.

THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ELECT MENTION NAMING THE CARDINALS.

THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ELECT THE NEXT POPE.

AND I THINK SO MUCH OF THE THE NEXT POPE.

AND I THINK SO MUCH OF THE QUESTION ABOUT POPE FRANCIS IS AND I THINK SO MUCH OF THE QUESTION ABOUT POPE FRANCIS IS WHAT KIND OF CHANGE WILL HE MAKE QUESTION ABOUT POPE FRANCIS IS WHAT KIND OF CHANGE WILL HE MAKE IN THE CHURCH THAT WILL BE WHAT KIND OF CHANGE WILL HE MAKE IN THE CHURCH THAT WILL BE DURABLE OVER TIME?

IN THE CHURCH THAT WILL BE DURABLE OVER TIME?

IF YOU THINK OF JOHN THE 23 HE DURABLE OVER TIME?

IF YOU THINK OF JOHN THE 23 HE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY POPE.

ONE OF THE REASONS WE LOOK BACK WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY POPE.

ONE OF THE REASONS WE LOOK BACK UPON HIM AS AN EXTRAORDINARY ONE OF THE REASONS WE LOOK BACK UPON HIM AS AN EXTRAORDINARY POPE IS HE CALLED THE SECOND UPON HIM AS AN EXTRAORDINARY POPE IS HE CALLED THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL.

POPE IS HE CALLED THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL.

THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL VATICAN COUNCIL.

THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL INSTITUTIONALIZED A SERIES OF THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL INSTITUTIONALIZED A SERIES OF CHANGES IN THE CHURCH.

INSTITUTIONALIZED A SERIES OF CHANGES IN THE CHURCH.

AND I THINK THE CHALLENGE TO CHANGES IN THE CHURCH.

AND I THINK THE CHALLENGE TO FRANCIS IS THAT IF HE WANTS A AND I THINK THE CHALLENGE TO FRANCIS IS THAT IF HE WANTS A PAPACY THAT TRANSFORMS THE FRANCIS IS THAT IF HE WANTS A PAPACY THAT TRANSFORMS THE CHURCH IN WHICH WAYS WILL HE PAPACY THAT TRANSFORMS THE CHURCH IN WHICH WAYS WILL HE CHOOSE TO INSTITUTIONALIZE THOSE CHURCH IN WHICH WAYS WILL HE CHOOSE TO INSTITUTIONALIZE THOSE CHANGES.

CHOOSE TO INSTITUTIONALIZE THOSE CHANGES.

BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT CHANGES.

BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE CAN EXPECT IS MORE PREACHING BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE CAN EXPECT IS MORE PREACHING AND MORE CLARIFICATION ON WE CAN EXPECT IS MORE PREACHING AND MORE CLARIFICATION ON EXACTLY WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY THE AND MORE CLARIFICATION ON EXACTLY WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY THE CHURCHES COMMITMENT TO SOCIAL EXACTLY WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY THE CHURCHES COMMITMENT TO SOCIAL JUSTICE AND THE POOR BECAUSE I CHURCHES COMMITMENT TO SOCIAL JUSTICE AND THE POOR BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL REMAIN A CENTRAL JUSTICE AND THE POOR BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL REMAIN A CENTRAL PART OF HIS PAPACY AND I THINK THINK THAT WILL REMAIN A CENTRAL PART OF HIS PAPACY AND I THINK BOTH IN HIS ACTIONS AND IN HIS PART OF HIS PAPACY AND I THINK BOTH IN HIS ACTIONS AND IN HIS WORDS HE'S GOING TO GIVE US EVEN BOTH IN HIS ACTIONS AND IN HIS WORDS HE'S GOING TO GIVE US EVEN MORE CLARITY ABOUT WHAT THAT WORDS HE'S GOING TO GIVE US EVEN MORE CLARITY ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE CHURCH ON A MORE CLARITY ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE CHURCH ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

MEANS FOR THE CHURCH ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

>> AND HOW THE U.S. BISHOPS, FOR DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

>> AND HOW THE U.S. BISHOPS, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN IN EVERY >> AND HOW THE U.S. BISHOPS, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN IN EVERY CONTEXT, BUT HERE IN THE U.S., EXAMPLE, I MEAN IN EVERY CONTEXT, BUT HERE IN THE U.S., HOW THE U.S. CHURCH ADOPTS AND CONTEXT, BUT HERE IN THE U.S., HOW THE U.S. CHURCH ADOPTS AND IMPLEMENTS SOME OF THE THINGS HOW THE U.S. CHURCH ADOPTS AND IMPLEMENTS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

IMPLEMENTS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN I THINK THAT'S GOING TO THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP WHEN YOU'RE TALKING I MEAN I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES HAVING TO DO WITH BE COMING UP WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES HAVING TO DO WITH THE POOR, IMMIGRATION, SOME OF ABOUT ISSUES HAVING TO DO WITH THE POOR, IMMIGRATION, SOME OF THESE OTHER POLICY ISSUES.

THE POOR, IMMIGRATION, SOME OF THESE OTHER POLICY ISSUES.

WILL WE SEE THE U.S. BISHOPS THESE OTHER POLICY ISSUES.

WILL WE SEE THE U.S. BISHOPS FOCUSING MORE ON THOSE AND LESS WILL WE SEE THE U.S. BISHOPS FOCUSING MORE ON THOSE AND LESS ON SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL FOCUSING MORE ON THOSE AND LESS ON SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL ISSUES LIKE ABORTION, GAY ON SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL ISSUES LIKE ABORTION, GAY MARRIAGE?

ISSUES LIKE ABORTION, GAY MARRIAGE?

>> AND I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY MARRIAGE?

>> AND I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY BEGUN TO SEE IN THE AMERICAN >> AND I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY BEGUN TO SEE IN THE AMERICAN CHURCH A SHIFT, AND IT'S NOT A BEGUN TO SEE IN THE AMERICAN CHURCH A SHIFT, AND IT'S NOT A NEW SHIFT.

CHURCH A SHIFT, AND IT'S NOT A NEW SHIFT.

THE AMERICAN CHURCH USED TO TALK NEW SHIFT.

THE AMERICAN CHURCH USED TO TALK A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THESE ISSUES THE AMERICAN CHURCH USED TO TALK A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THESE ISSUES BACK IN THE MID-1980S WHEN THEY A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THESE ISSUES BACK IN THE MID-1980S WHEN THEY PUT OUT VERY STRONG STATEMENTS BACK IN THE MID-1980S WHEN THEY PUT OUT VERY STRONG STATEMENTS ON WAR AND ON ECONOMIC JUSTICE PUT OUT VERY STRONG STATEMENTS ON WAR AND ON ECONOMIC JUSTICE AND I THINK YOU'RE SEEING A MOVE ON WAR AND ON ECONOMIC JUSTICE AND I THINK YOU'RE SEEING A MOVE BACK TOWARD THAT EMPHASIS AND I THINK YOU'RE SEEING A MOVE BACK TOWARD THAT EMPHASIS ALREADY, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.

BACK TOWARD THAT EMPHASIS ALREADY, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A TEST ALREADY, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A TEST OF HOW MUCH THAT'S ACCELERATED I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A TEST OF HOW MUCH THAT'S ACCELERATED IN THE COMING YEAR.

OF HOW MUCH THAT'S ACCELERATED IN THE COMING YEAR.

>> THERE'S TALK OF A PAPAL TRIP IN THE COMING YEAR.

>> THERE'S TALK OF A PAPAL TRIP TO WHERE, THE MIDDLE EAST?

>> WE EXPECT THE POPE TO GO TO TO WHERE, THE MIDDLE EAST?

>> WE EXPECT THE POPE TO GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST -- JORDAN, >> WE EXPECT THE POPE TO GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST -- JORDAN, ISRAEL, PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES.

THE MIDDLE EAST -- JORDAN, ISRAEL, PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES.

I'LL BE WATCHING TO SEE WILL HE ISRAEL, PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES.

I'LL BE WATCHING TO SEE WILL HE USE THIS POPULARITY, THIS GREAT, I'LL BE WATCHING TO SEE WILL HE USE THIS POPULARITY, THIS GREAT, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL THAT HE HAS USE THIS POPULARITY, THIS GREAT, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL THAT HE HAS TO REALLY THROW HIS MORAL YOU KNOW, APPROVAL THAT HE HAS TO REALLY THROW HIS MORAL AUTHORITY BEHIND SOME OF THOSE TO REALLY THROW HIS MORAL AUTHORITY BEHIND SOME OF THOSE TOUGH ISSUES LIKE PEACE IN THE AUTHORITY BEHIND SOME OF THOSE TOUGH ISSUES LIKE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

TOUGH ISSUES LIKE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF SYRIA, MIDDLE EAST.

DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF SYRIA, THE SYRIAN REFUGEE CRISIS WHICH DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF SYRIA, THE SYRIAN REFUGEE CRISIS WHICH IS SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL.

THE SYRIAN REFUGEE CRISIS WHICH IS SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL.

AND TO WHAT EXTENT WILL HE USE IS SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL.

AND TO WHAT EXTENT WILL HE USE THAT POPULARITY TO REALLY, YOU AND TO WHAT EXTENT WILL HE USE THAT POPULARITY TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THAT POPULARITY TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE TOUGH ISSUES AROUND THE WORLD?

KNOW, LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE TOUGH ISSUES AROUND THE WORLD?

>> NOW ARE WE EXPECTING TOO MUCH TOUGH ISSUES AROUND THE WORLD?

>> NOW ARE WE EXPECTING TOO MUCH FROM HIM?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT.

FROM HIM?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT.

I MEAN, HE'S DELIVERED SO FAR, >> WELL, I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT.

I MEAN, HE'S DELIVERED SO FAR, YOU KNOW, AND YES HE CAN'T BE I MEAN, HE'S DELIVERED SO FAR, YOU KNOW, AND YES HE CAN'T BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE AND YET YOU KNOW, AND YES HE CAN'T BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE AND YET IT'S REMARKABLE THE DEGREE TO ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE AND YET IT'S REMARKABLE THE DEGREE TO WHICH HE HAS PULLED THAT OFF SO IT'S REMARKABLE THE DEGREE TO WHICH HE HAS PULLED THAT OFF SO FAR.

WHICH HE HAS PULLED THAT OFF SO FAR.

AND YES THERE ARE SOME FAR.

AND YES THERE ARE SOME TRADITIONALISTS WHO HAVE DOUBTS AND YES THERE ARE SOME TRADITIONALISTS WHO HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT THE DIRECTION HE IS TRADITIONALISTS WHO HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT THE DIRECTION HE IS TAKING, BUT EVEN AMONG THE ABOUT THE DIRECTION HE IS TAKING, BUT EVEN AMONG THE TRADITIONALISTS, THEY REALIZE TAKING, BUT EVEN AMONG THE TRADITIONALISTS, THEY REALIZE THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TRADITIONALISTS, THEY REALIZE THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CATHOLIC AND THE THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CATHOLIC AND THE CHRISTIAN MESSAGE IN A WAY THEY TO THE CATHOLIC AND THE CHRISTIAN MESSAGE IN A WAY THEY WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO IT CHRISTIAN MESSAGE IN A WAY THEY WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO IT BEFORE FRANCIS BECAME POPE.

WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO IT BEFORE FRANCIS BECAME POPE.

>> AND I THINK OUTSIDE THE BEFORE FRANCIS BECAME POPE.

>> AND I THINK OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS WELL AS >> AND I THINK OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS WELL AS WITHIN IT.

CATHOLIC CHURCH AS WELL AS WITHIN IT.

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

WITHIN IT.

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

IN FACT, IN SOME WAYS I THINK >> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

IN FACT, IN SOME WAYS I THINK TWO OF HIS PARTICULAR AUDIENCES IN FACT, IN SOME WAYS I THINK TWO OF HIS PARTICULAR AUDIENCES ARE NON-CATHOLICS AND TWO OF HIS PARTICULAR AUDIENCES ARE NON-CATHOLICS AND EX-CATHOLICS.

ARE NON-CATHOLICS AND EX-CATHOLICS.

I THINK ALL OF US HAVE RUN INTO EX-CATHOLICS.

I THINK ALL OF US HAVE RUN INTO PEOPLE, WHO DRIFTED AWAY FROM I THINK ALL OF US HAVE RUN INTO PEOPLE, WHO DRIFTED AWAY FROM THE CHURCH, WHO SUDDENLY HAVE PEOPLE, WHO DRIFTED AWAY FROM THE CHURCH, WHO SUDDENLY HAVE POPE FRANCIS THERE, AND THEY'RE THE CHURCH, WHO SUDDENLY HAVE POPE FRANCIS THERE, AND THEY'RE TAKING A SECOND LOOK NOW.

POPE FRANCIS THERE, AND THEY'RE TAKING A SECOND LOOK NOW.

>> AND KEVIN, THERE ARE SOME TAKING A SECOND LOOK NOW.

>> AND KEVIN, THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT SUPREME COURT >> AND KEVIN, THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT SUPREME COURT DECISIONS THAT WE EXPECT IN IMPORTANT SUPREME COURT DECISIONS THAT WE EXPECT IN 2014.

DECISIONS THAT WE EXPECT IN 2014.

LET'S GET INTO THAT.

2014.

LET'S GET INTO THAT.

>> YEAH, SO THERE'S TWO.

LET'S GET INTO THAT.

>> YEAH, SO THERE'S TWO.

ONE IS A CASE THAT WAS ACTUALLY >> YEAH, SO THERE'S TWO.

ONE IS A CASE THAT WAS ACTUALLY ARGUED LAST YEAR IN 2013 THAT ONE IS A CASE THAT WAS ACTUALLY ARGUED LAST YEAR IN 2013 THAT WILL BE DECIDED IN 2014, GREECE ARGUED LAST YEAR IN 2013 THAT WILL BE DECIDED IN 2014, GREECE VERSUS GALLOWAY, WHICH IS WILL BE DECIDED IN 2014, GREECE VERSUS GALLOWAY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A QUESTION OF HOW VERSUS GALLOWAY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A QUESTION OF HOW RELIGIOUS, OR HOW SECTARIAN, BASICALLY A QUESTION OF HOW RELIGIOUS, OR HOW SECTARIAN, PRAYERS CAN BE AT CIVIC EVENTS.

RELIGIOUS, OR HOW SECTARIAN, PRAYERS CAN BE AT CIVIC EVENTS.

IT'S INVOLVING A TOWN IN UPSTATE PRAYERS CAN BE AT CIVIC EVENTS.

IT'S INVOLVING A TOWN IN UPSTATE IN NEW YORK WHERE THE PEOPLE IT'S INVOLVING A TOWN IN UPSTATE IN NEW YORK WHERE THE PEOPLE SAID THE PRAYERS WERE TOO IN NEW YORK WHERE THE PEOPLE SAID THE PRAYERS WERE TOO CHRISTIAN.

SAID THE PRAYERS WERE TOO CHRISTIAN.

THE COURT IS GOING TO BE ASKED CHRISTIAN.

THE COURT IS GOING TO BE ASKED TO DECIDE WHERE IS THAT LINE THE COURT IS GOING TO BE ASKED TO DECIDE WHERE IS THAT LINE BETWEEN TOO CHRISTIAN, OR TOO TO DECIDE WHERE IS THAT LINE BETWEEN TOO CHRISTIAN, OR TOO JEWISH, OR TOO WHATEVER.

BETWEEN TOO CHRISTIAN, OR TOO JEWISH, OR TOO WHATEVER.

SHOULD THERE EVEN BE A LINE ON JEWISH, OR TOO WHATEVER.

SHOULD THERE EVEN BE A LINE ON QUESTIONS ON THAT?

THE OTHER IMPORTANT, HUGE CASE QUESTIONS ON THAT?

THE OTHER IMPORTANT, HUGE CASE IS A CHALLENGE TO OBAMACARE, THE THE OTHER IMPORTANT, HUGE CASE IS A CHALLENGE TO OBAMACARE, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, ABOUT IS A CHALLENGE TO OBAMACARE, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, ABOUT PARTICULARLY THE PROVISION THAT AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, ABOUT PARTICULARLY THE PROVISION THAT SAYS EMPLOYERS HAVE TO PROVIDE PARTICULARLY THE PROVISION THAT SAYS EMPLOYERS HAVE TO PROVIDE CONTRACEPTION COVERAGE AT NO SAYS EMPLOYERS HAVE TO PROVIDE CONTRACEPTION COVERAGE AT NO COST TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.

CONTRACEPTION COVERAGE AT NO COST TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.

THERE'S A CHALLENGE BROUGHT BY COST TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.

THERE'S A CHALLENGE BROUGHT BY AN EVANGELICAL-OWNED COMPANY THERE'S A CHALLENGE BROUGHT BY AN EVANGELICAL-OWNED COMPANY THAT SAYS, "WE DON'T OBJECT TO AN EVANGELICAL-OWNED COMPANY THAT SAYS, "WE DON'T OBJECT TO ALL FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL, BUT THAT SAYS, "WE DON'T OBJECT TO ALL FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT WE DO OBJECT ALL FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT WE DO OBJECT TO, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE FORCED THERE ARE SOME THAT WE DO OBJECT TO, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO PROVIDE THOSE IN OUR TO, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO PROVIDE THOSE IN OUR COMPANY."

TO PROVIDE THOSE IN OUR COMPANY."

AND ULTIMATELY THE SUPREME COMPANY."

AND ULTIMATELY THE SUPREME COURT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE.

>> SO IT'S NOT JUST CATHOLIC COURT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE.

>> SO IT'S NOT JUST CATHOLIC INSTITUTIONS AND UNIVERSITIES >> SO IT'S NOT JUST CATHOLIC INSTITUTIONS AND UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED, BUT NOW INSTITUTIONS AND UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED, BUT NOW BUSINESSES TOO.

THAT ARE INVOLVED, BUT NOW BUSINESSES TOO.

>> RIGHT.

BUSINESSES TOO.

>> RIGHT.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER CASES >> RIGHT.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT AND ONE OF THE OTHER CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT INCLUDES A MENNONITE BUSINESS BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT INCLUDES A MENNONITE BUSINESS WHO ALSO LOOKS AT SOME FORMS OF INCLUDES A MENNONITE BUSINESS WHO ALSO LOOKS AT SOME FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL AS ABORTION.

WHO ALSO LOOKS AT SOME FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL AS ABORTION.

AND THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER BIRTH CONTROL AS ABORTION.

AND THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER CASES STILL BUBBLING UP IN THE AND THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER CASES STILL BUBBLING UP IN THE PIPELINE AS WELL, FROM CASES STILL BUBBLING UP IN THE PIPELINE AS WELL, FROM FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS LIKE PIPELINE AS WELL, FROM FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS LIKE HOSPITALS, UNIVERSITIES, FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS LIKE HOSPITALS, UNIVERSITIES, CATHOLICS, EVANGELICALS.

HOSPITALS, UNIVERSITIES, CATHOLICS, EVANGELICALS.

AND AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS WHO CATHOLICS, EVANGELICALS.

AND AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS WHO DEFINES WHAT IS A RELIGIOUS AND AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS WHO DEFINES WHAT IS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION THAT IS DESERVING OF DEFINES WHAT IS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION THAT IS DESERVING OF GOVERNMENT EXCEPTIONS OR INSTITUTION THAT IS DESERVING OF GOVERNMENT EXCEPTIONS OR BENEFITS.

GOVERNMENT EXCEPTIONS OR BENEFITS.

THOSE ARE TRICKY, TRICKY BENEFITS.

THOSE ARE TRICKY, TRICKY QUESTIONS IN A COUNTRY THAT'S THOSE ARE TRICKY, TRICKY QUESTIONS IN A COUNTRY THAT'S INCREASINGLY PLURALISTIC, JUST QUESTIONS IN A COUNTRY THAT'S INCREASINGLY PLURALISTIC, JUST LIKE THE PRAYER CASE.

INCREASINGLY PLURALISTIC, JUST LIKE THE PRAYER CASE.

IN A COUNTRY THAT'S INCREASINGLY LIKE THE PRAYER CASE.

IN A COUNTRY THAT'S INCREASINGLY DIVERSE, HOW DOES RELIGION GET IN A COUNTRY THAT'S INCREASINGLY DIVERSE, HOW DOES RELIGION GET EXERCISED IN AMERICA?

DIVERSE, HOW DOES RELIGION GET EXERCISED IN AMERICA?

>> THE ONE INVOLVING BUSINESS IS EXERCISED IN AMERICA?

>> THE ONE INVOLVING BUSINESS IS REALLY A NOVEL KIND OF CASE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE ARGUMENT REALLY A NOVEL KIND OF CASE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE ARGUMENT ABOUT WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN AND IN OTHER WORDS, THE ARGUMENT ABOUT WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH RELIGIOUS ABOUT WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS IS ONE WE'VE BEEN CAN'T DO WITH RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS IS ONE WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THIS INSTITUTIONS IS ONE WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THIS ASSERTION OF A RIGHT TO COVER HAVING FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THIS ASSERTION OF A RIGHT TO COVER THIS AND NOT THAT IN AN ASSERTION OF A RIGHT TO COVER THIS AND NOT THAT IN AN INSURANCE PLAN BY A COMPANY.

THIS AND NOT THAT IN AN INSURANCE PLAN BY A COMPANY.

>> THE FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, INSURANCE PLAN BY A COMPANY.

>> THE FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, YEAH.

>> WHERE AFTER ALL IT IS A YEAH.

>> WHERE AFTER ALL IT IS A CORPORATION.

IN MANY CASES WE'RE TALKING CORPORATION.

IN MANY CASES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CORPORATIONS, SO IT'S NOT IN MANY CASES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CORPORATIONS, SO IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON BUT THE ABOUT CORPORATIONS, SO IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON BUT THE CORPORATION ITSELF THAT'S ASKING THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON BUT THE CORPORATION ITSELF THAT'S ASKING FOR THIS RIGHT.

CORPORATION ITSELF THAT'S ASKING FOR THIS RIGHT.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A FOR THIS RIGHT.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMPLICATED, AND I THINK SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMPLICATED, AND I THINK WHATEVER THE OUTCOME, A VERY COMPLICATED, AND I THINK WHATEVER THE OUTCOME, A VERY CONTROVERSIAL DECISION.

WHATEVER THE OUTCOME, A VERY CONTROVERSIAL DECISION.

>> BUT IS THE OTHER CASE, THE CONTROVERSIAL DECISION.

>> BUT IS THE OTHER CASE, THE GREECE NEW YORK CASE, ARE PEOPLE >> BUT IS THE OTHER CASE, THE GREECE NEW YORK CASE, ARE PEOPLE SAYING THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD GREECE NEW YORK CASE, ARE PEOPLE SAYING THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE A ROLE IN DECIDING WHAT SAYING THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE A ROLE IN DECIDING WHAT KIND OF PRAYER THERE SHOULD BE HAVE A ROLE IN DECIDING WHAT KIND OF PRAYER THERE SHOULD BE BEFORE A MEETING OF A TOWN KIND OF PRAYER THERE SHOULD BE BEFORE A MEETING OF A TOWN COUNCIL?

BEFORE A MEETING OF A TOWN COUNCIL?

>> WELL, THAT IS THE QUESTION, COUNCIL?

>> WELL, THAT IS THE QUESTION, AND EVEN SOME OF THE FOLKS >> WELL, THAT IS THE QUESTION, AND EVEN SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO -- AND EVEN SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO -- >> IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S WHO -- >> IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS?

>> IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS?

>> RIGHT.

BUSINESS?

>> RIGHT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY THERE >> RIGHT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY THERE SHOULD BE PERHAPS LESS RELIGION A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY THERE SHOULD BE PERHAPS LESS RELIGION IN PUBLIC LIFE, THEY DON'T WANT SHOULD BE PERHAPS LESS RELIGION IN PUBLIC LIFE, THEY DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT DECIDING WHAT IN PUBLIC LIFE, THEY DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT DECIDING WHAT RELIGION SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE.

THE GOVERNMENT DECIDING WHAT RELIGION SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE.

SO I THINK WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE RELIGION SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE.

SO I THINK WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THE COURT TO DO SO I THINK WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THE COURT TO DO IS NOT NECESSARILY DRAW A RULE ARE LOOKING FOR THE COURT TO DO IS NOT NECESSARILY DRAW A RULE SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN SAY, IS NOT NECESSARILY DRAW A RULE SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN'T SAY, BUT SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN'T SAY, BUT MAYBE SOME MORE STANDARDS OR THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN'T SAY, BUT MAYBE SOME MORE STANDARDS OR GUIDELINES -- THIS KIND OF THING MAYBE SOME MORE STANDARDS OR GUIDELINES -- THIS KIND OF THING WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, THIS KIND GUIDELINES -- THIS KIND OF THING WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, THIS KIND OF THING WOULD NOT, BUT LEAVE WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, THIS KIND OF THING WOULD NOT, BUT LEAVE THE ACTUAL PRAYERS UP TO THE OF THING WOULD NOT, BUT LEAVE THE ACTUAL PRAYERS UP TO THE CLERGY.

THE ACTUAL PRAYERS UP TO THE CLERGY.

>> WE HAVE CHAPLAINS IN THE CLERGY.

>> WE HAVE CHAPLAINS IN THE CONGRESS WHO OPEN WITH PRAYER, >> WE HAVE CHAPLAINS IN THE CONGRESS WHO OPEN WITH PRAYER, SO THIS IS A KIND OF DEBATE WE CONGRESS WHO OPEN WITH PRAYER, SO THIS IS A KIND OF DEBATE WE KEEP HAVING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO THIS IS A KIND OF DEBATE WE KEEP HAVING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

ARE WE SIMPLY GOING TO SAY WE'RE KEEP HAVING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

ARE WE SIMPLY GOING TO SAY WE'RE GETTING RID OF THAT, WHICH WOULD ARE WE SIMPLY GOING TO SAY WE'RE GETTING RID OF THAT, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY QUITE A RADICAL GETTING RID OF THAT, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY QUITE A RADICAL CHANGE.

BE REALLY QUITE A RADICAL CHANGE.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING CHANGE.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IF YOU BUT THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF ABOUT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF ONE FAITH AND A SMALL MINORITY HAVE AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF ONE FAITH AND A SMALL MINORITY OF ANOTHER FAITH, YOU CAN ONE FAITH AND A SMALL MINORITY OF ANOTHER FAITH, YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT SMALL MINORITY CAN OF ANOTHER FAITH, YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT SMALL MINORITY CAN FEEL OPPRESSED BY A PRAYER IMAGINE THAT SMALL MINORITY CAN FEEL OPPRESSED BY A PRAYER REPRESENTATIVE ONLY OF THE BROAD FEEL OPPRESSED BY A PRAYER REPRESENTATIVE ONLY OF THE BROAD MAJORITY.

REPRESENTATIVE ONLY OF THE BROAD MAJORITY.

NORMALLY PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS MAJORITY.

NORMALLY PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS HAVE SOLVED THIS QUESTION IN A NORMALLY PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS HAVE SOLVED THIS QUESTION IN A PLURALISTIC WAY BY INVITING HAVE SOLVED THIS QUESTION IN A PLURALISTIC WAY BY INVITING DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PLURALISTIC WAY BY INVITING DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT TRADITIONS TO GIVE PRAYERS.

DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT TRADITIONS TO GIVE PRAYERS.

BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TRADITIONS TO GIVE PRAYERS.

BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE.

I THINK THIS COURT IS UNLIKELY VERY INTERESTING TO SEE.

I THINK THIS COURT IS UNLIKELY TO SAY, "NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE I THINK THIS COURT IS UNLIKELY TO SAY, "NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC PRAYER."

TO SAY, "NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC PRAYER."

IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING HOW PUBLIC PRAYER."

IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING HOW MUCH LEEWAY IT AFFORDS.

>> WHAT DO YOU ALL EXPECT TO SEE MUCH LEEWAY IT AFFORDS.

>> WHAT DO YOU ALL EXPECT TO SEE WITH RESPECT TO THE AFFORDABLE >> WHAT DO YOU ALL EXPECT TO SEE WITH RESPECT TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IN THIS NEW YEAR?

WITH RESPECT TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IN THIS NEW YEAR?

IS IT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL?

CARE ACT IN THIS NEW YEAR?

IS IT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL?

IS IT GOING TO FAIL SOME MORE?

IS IT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL?

IS IT GOING TO FAIL SOME MORE?

WHAT DO YOU SEE AHEAD, IS IT GOING TO FAIL SOME MORE?

WHAT DO YOU SEE AHEAD, ESPECIALLY SINCE 2014 IS AN WHAT DO YOU SEE AHEAD, ESPECIALLY SINCE 2014 IS AN ELECTION YEAR?

ESPECIALLY SINCE 2014 IS AN ELECTION YEAR?

>> WELL, I'M FAIRLY OUT THERE ELECTION YEAR?

>> WELL, I'M FAIRLY OUT THERE WANTING IT TO WORK, SO I SHOULD >> WELL, I'M FAIRLY OUT THERE WANTING IT TO WORK, SO I SHOULD JUST SAY THAT UP FRONT.

WANTING IT TO WORK, SO I SHOULD JUST SAY THAT UP FRONT.

AND I THINK THE TEST IS, WILL IT JUST SAY THAT UP FRONT.

AND I THINK THE TEST IS, WILL IT ENROLL A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE IN AND I THINK THE TEST IS, WILL IT ENROLL A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE IN HEALTH INSURANCE?

ENROLL A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE IN HEALTH INSURANCE?

WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THAT HEALTH INSURANCE?

WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK, AND I THINK THE WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK, AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES.

LAST WEEK, AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES.

AND THE QUESTION IS WILL THAT ANSWER IS YES.

AND THE QUESTION IS WILL THAT MATTER MOST, OR WILL SOME AND THE QUESTION IS WILL THAT MATTER MOST, OR WILL SOME PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITH MATTER MOST, OR WILL SOME PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITH THEIR OWN INSURANCE -- SOME OF PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITH THEIR OWN INSURANCE -- SOME OF IT ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE THEIR OWN INSURANCE -- SOME OF IT ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, SOME NOT -- IT ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, SOME NOT -- ALL GET BLAMED ON THE AFFORDABLE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, SOME NOT -- ALL GET BLAMED ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT?

ALL GET BLAMED ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT?

BUT I THINK THE TEST WILL BE IN CARE ACT?

BUT I THINK THE TEST WILL BE IN THE NUMBERS.

AND THAT IF IT INSURES A LOT OF THE NUMBERS.

AND THAT IF IT INSURES A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE, I THINK PERHAPS NOT AND THAT IF IT INSURES A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE, I THINK PERHAPS NOT THE STRONG OPPONENTS OF IT, BUT NEW PEOPLE, I THINK PERHAPS NOT THE STRONG OPPONENTS OF IT, BUT I THINK MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD THE STRONG OPPONENTS OF IT, BUT I THINK MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE I THINK MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE KICK-OFF, BUT ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE KICK-OFF, BUT ARE NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST THE IDEA OF KICK-OFF, BUT ARE NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST THE IDEA OF EXPANDING HEALTH INSURANCE.

NECESSARILY AGAINST THE IDEA OF EXPANDING HEALTH INSURANCE.

THOSE PEOPLE, I THINK THEIR EXPANDING HEALTH INSURANCE.

THOSE PEOPLE, I THINK THEIR JUDGMENT WILL HANG ENTIRELY ON THOSE PEOPLE, I THINK THEIR JUDGMENT WILL HANG ENTIRELY ON HOW WELL IS IT DOING AT JUDGMENT WILL HANG ENTIRELY ON HOW WELL IS IT DOING AT DELIVERING ON ITS PROMISE.

HOW WELL IS IT DOING AT DELIVERING ON ITS PROMISE.

>> AND I THINK E.J.

'S RIGHT THAT DELIVERING ON ITS PROMISE.

>> AND I THINK E.J.

'S RIGHT THAT IT SORT OF DEPENDS ON HOW IT >> AND I THINK E.J.

'S RIGHT THAT IT SORT OF DEPENDS ON HOW IT GOES EARLY ON, AND THE POLITICAL IT SORT OF DEPENDS ON HOW IT GOES EARLY ON, AND THE POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS IN AN ELECTION GOES EARLY ON, AND THE POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS IN AN ELECTION YEAR, A MID-TERM ELECTION YEAR, IMPLICATIONS IN AN ELECTION YEAR, A MID-TERM ELECTION YEAR, ARE ALSO DEPENDENT ON THAT.

YEAR, A MID-TERM ELECTION YEAR, ARE ALSO DEPENDENT ON THAT.

THE REPUBLICANS REALLY MADE THAT ARE ALSO DEPENDENT ON THAT.

THE REPUBLICANS REALLY MADE THAT A BIG ISSUE LAST YEAR IN THE THE REPUBLICANS REALLY MADE THAT A BIG ISSUE LAST YEAR IN THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, AND THEN A BIG ISSUE LAST YEAR IN THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, AND THEN THERE WAS BACKLASH FOR THAT.

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, AND THEN THERE WAS BACKLASH FOR THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS OR THERE WAS BACKLASH FOR THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS OR WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE IT'S ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS OR WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE YOU, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE A WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE YOU, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE A BIG ISSUE IN THE ELECTION.

YOU, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE A BIG ISSUE IN THE ELECTION.

IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH, I BIG ISSUE IN THE ELECTION.

IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH, I THINK ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH, I THINK ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, SOME OF THESE SPLITS THAT WE'RE THINK ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, SOME OF THESE SPLITS THAT WE'RE SEEING BETWEEN THE SOCIAL SOME OF THESE SPLITS THAT WE'RE SEEING BETWEEN THE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES, THE ECONOMIC SEEING BETWEEN THE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES, THE ECONOMIC CONSERVATIVES, AND THOSE WHO CONSERVATIVES, THE ECONOMIC CONSERVATIVES, AND THOSE WHO MAYBE WANT THE PARTY TO GO IN A CONSERVATIVES, AND THOSE WHO MAYBE WANT THE PARTY TO GO IN A LESS HARDLINE DIRECTION.

MAYBE WANT THE PARTY TO GO IN A LESS HARDLINE DIRECTION.

AND HOW THAT GETS WORKED OUT LESS HARDLINE DIRECTION.

AND HOW THAT GETS WORKED OUT WILL CERTAINLY BE SETTING THE AND HOW THAT GETS WORKED OUT WILL CERTAINLY BE SETTING THE STAGE FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL WILL CERTAINLY BE SETTING THE STAGE FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AS WELL.

STAGE FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AS WELL.

>> IS THERE ANY REASON TO HOPE ELECTION AS WELL.

>> IS THERE ANY REASON TO HOPE THAT CONGRESS IS GOING TO GET >> IS THERE ANY REASON TO HOPE THAT CONGRESS IS GOING TO GET ITSELF TOGETHER AND BE ANYMORE THAT CONGRESS IS GOING TO GET ITSELF TOGETHER AND BE ANYMORE ABLE TO ACT ON SOME OF THESE ITSELF TOGETHER AND BE ANYMORE ABLE TO ACT ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT ABLE TO ACT ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY?

ISSUES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY?

IMMIGRATION, GUN VIOLENCE, TO THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY?

IMMIGRATION, GUN VIOLENCE, MAYBE?

>> JUST TO SAY NO, AND BE DONE MAYBE?

>> JUST TO SAY NO, AND BE DONE WITH IT.

HOPE IN THIS CASE IS HARD TO WITH IT.

HOPE IN THIS CASE IS HARD TO COME BY.

I THINK AND I'LL PROBABLY TALK A COME BY.

I THINK AND I'LL PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THIS TOWARD THE END I THINK AND I'LL PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THIS TOWARD THE END OF THE SHOW -- THAT IMMIGRATION LITTLE ABOUT THIS TOWARD THE END OF THE SHOW -- THAT IMMIGRATION IS AN ISSUE THAT WON'T GO AWAY.

OF THE SHOW -- THAT IMMIGRATION IS AN ISSUE THAT WON'T GO AWAY.

IT'S GOING TO STAY WITH US, IS AN ISSUE THAT WON'T GO AWAY.

IT'S GOING TO STAY WITH US, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT'S GOING TO STAY WITH US, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LATINO COMMUNITY, PARTLY PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LATINO COMMUNITY, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE RELIGIOUS THE LATINO COMMUNITY, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS ENGAGEMENT IN IT, BECAUSE OF THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS ENGAGEMENT IN IT, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESS INSTITUTIONS ENGAGEMENT IN IT, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT IN IT.

PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT IN IT.

AND WHILE YOU'VE HAD MORE COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT IN IT.

AND WHILE YOU'VE HAD MORE RESISTANCE ON THE REPUBLICAN AND WHILE YOU'VE HAD MORE RESISTANCE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, I THINK THESE GROUPS, RESISTANCE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, I THINK THESE GROUPS, PARTICULARLY THE RELIGIOUS SIDE, I THINK THESE GROUPS, PARTICULARLY THE RELIGIOUS GROUPS HAVE AN OPENING TO PARTICULARLY THE RELIGIOUS GROUPS HAVE AN OPENING TO CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS GROUPS HAVE AN OPENING TO CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS THAT OTHER GROUPS ADVOCATING CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS THAT OTHER GROUPS ADVOCATING IMMIGRATION REFORM WON'T HAVE THAT OTHER GROUPS ADVOCATING IMMIGRATION REFORM WON'T HAVE AND OBVIOUSLY A GROWING LATINO IMMIGRATION REFORM WON'T HAVE AND OBVIOUSLY A GROWING LATINO COMMUNITY, WHICH IS VERY AND OBVIOUSLY A GROWING LATINO COMMUNITY, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BOTH THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BOTH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND A VARIETY OF IMPORTANT TO BOTH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND A VARIETY OF PROTESTANT TRADITIONS, CHURCH AND A VARIETY OF PROTESTANT TRADITIONS, PARTICULARLY EVANGELICALS.

PROTESTANT TRADITIONS, PARTICULARLY EVANGELICALS.

>> AND I THINK THE CLOSER WE GET PARTICULARLY EVANGELICALS.

>> AND I THINK THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, THE >> AND I THINK THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, THE HARDER IT'S GOING TO BE TO GET TO THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, THE HARDER IT'S GOING TO BE TO GET ANYTHING DONE.

HARDER IT'S GOING TO BE TO GET ANYTHING DONE.

AND THE OTHER I THINK DATE WE ANYTHING DONE.

AND THE OTHER I THINK DATE WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT AND THE OTHER I THINK DATE WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT SORT OF MID-SUMMER TARGET WHEN A NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT SORT OF MID-SUMMER TARGET WHEN A LOT OF THESE PRIMARIES HAPPEN.

SORT OF MID-SUMMER TARGET WHEN A LOT OF THESE PRIMARIES HAPPEN.

A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE GETTING LOT OF THESE PRIMARIES HAPPEN.

A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE GETTING EITHER A DIRECT THREAT OR THE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE GETTING EITHER A DIRECT THREAT OR THE THREAT OF A THREAT OF A PRIMARY EITHER A DIRECT THREAT OR THE THREAT OF A THREAT OF A PRIMARY CHALLENGE FROM A MORE THREAT OF A THREAT OF A PRIMARY CHALLENGE FROM A MORE CONSERVATIVE PERSON.

CHALLENGE FROM A MORE CONSERVATIVE PERSON.

AND IF THEY ARE VOTING IN FAVOR CONSERVATIVE PERSON.

AND IF THEY ARE VOTING IN FAVOR OF IMMIGRATION REFORM, THAT'S AND IF THEY ARE VOTING IN FAVOR OF IMMIGRATION REFORM, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK WELL FOR THEM.

OF IMMIGRATION REFORM, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK WELL FOR THEM.

SO MAYBE AFTER WE GET PAST NOT GOING TO WORK WELL FOR THEM.

SO MAYBE AFTER WE GET PAST PRIMARY SEASON, THERE MIGHT BE SO MAYBE AFTER WE GET PAST PRIMARY SEASON, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE DONE, PRIMARY SEASON, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE DONE, BUT I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC.

SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE DONE, BUT I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC.

>> YEAH.

BUT I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC.

>> YEAH.

>> AND EVEN ON GUN VIOLENCE, I >> YEAH.

>> AND EVEN ON GUN VIOLENCE, I THINK THAT ISSUE -- YOU KNOW, >> AND EVEN ON GUN VIOLENCE, I THINK THAT ISSUE -- YOU KNOW, 2013 STARTED OFF WITH PEOPLE THINK THAT ISSUE -- YOU KNOW, 2013 STARTED OFF WITH PEOPLE STILL REELING AFTER THE NEWTOWN 2013 STARTED OFF WITH PEOPLE STILL REELING AFTER THE NEWTOWN TRAGEDY AND SOME OF THE OTHER STILL REELING AFTER THE NEWTOWN TRAGEDY AND SOME OF THE OTHER BIG SHOOTINGS, BUT THEN ALL LAST TRAGEDY AND SOME OF THE OTHER BIG SHOOTINGS, BUT THEN ALL LAST YEAR THERE WERE MOBILIZATIONS, BIG SHOOTINGS, BUT THEN ALL LAST YEAR THERE WERE MOBILIZATIONS, BUT NOTHING ACTUALLY GOT THROUGH YEAR THERE WERE MOBILIZATIONS, BUT NOTHING ACTUALLY GOT THROUGH AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL.

BUT NOTHING ACTUALLY GOT THROUGH AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL.

BUT YOU DID SEE A BIG AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL.

BUT YOU DID SEE A BIG FAITH-BASED MOBILIZATION ON THAT BUT YOU DID SEE A BIG FAITH-BASED MOBILIZATION ON THAT ISSUE.

FAITH-BASED MOBILIZATION ON THAT ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, LOTS OF RELIGIOUS ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, LOTS OF RELIGIOUS GROUPS VERY CONCERNED, PHRASING YOU KNOW, LOTS OF RELIGIOUS GROUPS VERY CONCERNED, PHRASING IT AS A MORAL ISSUE, SOME CALLED GROUPS VERY CONCERNED, PHRASING IT AS A MORAL ISSUE, SOME CALLED IT A PROLIFE ISSUE TO DO IT AS A MORAL ISSUE, SOME CALLED IT A PROLIFE ISSUE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

IT A PROLIFE ISSUE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

MANY OF THOSE GROUPS ARE STILL SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

MANY OF THOSE GROUPS ARE STILL PUSHING, JUST LIKE WITH MANY OF THOSE GROUPS ARE STILL PUSHING, JUST LIKE WITH IMMIGRATION, THEY'RE STILL PUSHING, JUST LIKE WITH IMMIGRATION, THEY'RE STILL PUSHING, THEY'RE STILL PUTTING IMMIGRATION, THEY'RE STILL PUSHING, THEY'RE STILL PUTTING PRESSURE AT THE CONGRESSIONAL PUSHING, THEY'RE STILL PUTTING PRESSURE AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL.

PRESSURE AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF AT THE LEVEL.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF AT THE STATE LEVEL, AT THE GRASSROOTS BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF AT THE STATE LEVEL, AT THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL, AND PEOPLE NOT JUST STATE LEVEL, AT THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL, AND PEOPLE NOT JUST COMING WITH LEGISLATIVE ANSWERS LEVEL, AND PEOPLE NOT JUST COMING WITH LEGISLATIVE ANSWERS TO VIOLENCE, BUT LOOKING AT COMING WITH LEGISLATIVE ANSWERS TO VIOLENCE, BUT LOOKING AT OTHER SORT OF NONLEGISLATIVE TO VIOLENCE, BUT LOOKING AT OTHER SORT OF NONLEGISLATIVE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

OTHER SORT OF NONLEGISLATIVE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

LOOKING AT HOW WE TREAT MENTAL THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

LOOKING AT HOW WE TREAT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND FAMILIES, LOOKING AT HOW WE TREAT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND FAMILIES, STRENGTHENING FAMILIES AND YOUNG HEALTH ISSUES, AND FAMILIES, STRENGTHENING FAMILIES AND YOUNG PEOPLE, REACHING OUT TO THEM.

STRENGTHENING FAMILIES AND YOUNG PEOPLE, REACHING OUT TO THEM.

AND THE FAITH COMMUNITY I'VE PEOPLE, REACHING OUT TO THEM.

AND THE FAITH COMMUNITY I'VE SEEN REALLY INVOLVED IN THOSE AND THE FAITH COMMUNITY I'VE SEEN REALLY INVOLVED IN THOSE THINGS.

SEEN REALLY INVOLVED IN THOSE THINGS.

>> ON THE GUNS, YOU DIDN'T SEE THINGS.

>> ON THE GUNS, YOU DIDN'T SEE ACTION ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

YOU SAW A LOT OF ACTION AT THE ACTION ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

YOU SAW A LOT OF ACTION AT THE STATE LEVEL ON BOTH SIDES.

>> RIGHT.

STATE LEVEL ON BOTH SIDES.

>> RIGHT.

>> YOU KNOW, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

>> RIGHT.

>> YOU KNOW, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S CLEARLY >> YOU KNOW, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S CLEARLY THE CASE AND AT THE NATIONAL AND I THINK THAT IT'S CLEARLY THE CASE AND AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, IT'S BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO THE CASE AND AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, IT'S BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO GET GUN LEGISLATION.

LEVEL, IT'S BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO GET GUN LEGISLATION.

BUT THE GUN LOBBY HAS BEEN AT GET GUN LEGISLATION.

BUT THE GUN LOBBY HAS BEEN AT THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

WHEREAS I THINK THE NEW THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

WHEREAS I THINK THE NEW MOBILIZATION ON THE OTHER SIDE WHEREAS I THINK THE NEW MOBILIZATION ON THE OTHER SIDE REALLY ONLY KICKED IN AFTER MOBILIZATION ON THE OTHER SIDE REALLY ONLY KICKED IN AFTER NEWTOWN, I MEAN, THERE WERE REALLY ONLY KICKED IN AFTER NEWTOWN, I MEAN, THERE WERE GROUPS OUT THERE DOING WORK, NEWTOWN, I MEAN, THERE WERE GROUPS OUT THERE DOING WORK, WORKING HARD, BUT I THINK THERE GROUPS OUT THERE DOING WORK, WORKING HARD, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A MUCH BROADER ATTEMPT MADE WORKING HARD, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A MUCH BROADER ATTEMPT MADE AFTER NEWTOWN, SO THAT WHILE IN WAS A MUCH BROADER ATTEMPT MADE AFTER NEWTOWN, SO THAT WHILE IN THE SHORT TERM, IT'S HARD TO SEE AFTER NEWTOWN, SO THAT WHILE IN THE SHORT TERM, IT'S HARD TO SEE FEDERAL ACTION, I THINK THAT THE SHORT TERM, IT'S HARD TO SEE FEDERAL ACTION, I THINK THAT THESE GROUPS ARE GOING TO STAY FEDERAL ACTION, I THINK THAT THESE GROUPS ARE GOING TO STAY AT IT AND TRY TO CHANGE THE THESE GROUPS ARE GOING TO STAY AT IT AND TRY TO CHANGE THE POLITICAL EQUATION IN AT IT AND TRY TO CHANGE THE POLITICAL EQUATION IN WASHINGTON.

POLITICAL EQUATION IN WASHINGTON.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

WASHINGTON.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

>> IN THE COMING YEAR, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

>> IN THE COMING YEAR, I THINK THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS TO BE >> IN THE COMING YEAR, I THINK THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS TO BE WATCHING FOR.

THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS TO BE WATCHING FOR.

I'M ESPECIALLY GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR.

I'M ESPECIALLY GOING TO BE WATCHING SOME OF THESE ISSUES I'M ESPECIALLY GOING TO BE WATCHING SOME OF THESE ISSUES ABOUT HUMANITARIAN THINGS GOING WATCHING SOME OF THESE ISSUES ABOUT HUMANITARIAN THINGS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD.

ABOUT HUMANITARIAN THINGS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD.

LAST YEAR WE HAD BIG, YOU KNOW, ON AROUND THE WORLD.

LAST YEAR WE HAD BIG, YOU KNOW, THE TYPHOON IN THE PHILIPPINES, LAST YEAR WE HAD BIG, YOU KNOW, THE TYPHOON IN THE PHILIPPINES, AND THE HUGE HUMANITARIAN THE TYPHOON IN THE PHILIPPINES, AND THE HUGE HUMANITARIAN PROBLEM THERE.

AND THE HUGE HUMANITARIAN PROBLEM THERE.

SYRIAN REFUGEES ALL OVER THE PROBLEM THERE.

SYRIAN REFUGEES ALL OVER THE PLACE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A SYRIAN REFUGEES ALL OVER THE PLACE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE WHILE AGO, BUT JUST WHAT PLACE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE WHILE AGO, BUT JUST WHAT IS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY LITTLE WHILE AGO, BUT JUST WHAT IS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY GOING TO DO?

IS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY GOING TO DO?

AND THERE ARE ALREADY GOING TO DO?

AND THERE ARE ALREADY INDICATIONS THAT THE DONATIONS AND THERE ARE ALREADY INDICATIONS THAT THE DONATIONS AREN'T KEEPING PACE WITH THE INDICATIONS THAT THE DONATIONS AREN'T KEEPING PACE WITH THE NEEDS AT ALL, AND SO, THESE ARE AREN'T KEEPING PACE WITH THE NEEDS AT ALL, AND SO, THESE ARE TERRIBLE SITUATIONS, WHAT IS OUR NEEDS AT ALL, AND SO, THESE ARE TERRIBLE SITUATIONS, WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY ADDRESS THAT?

TERRIBLE SITUATIONS, WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY ADDRESS THAT?

DO WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY?

RESPONSIBILITY ADDRESS THAT?

DO WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY?

IS IT THE FAITH COMMUNITY?

DO WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY?

IS IT THE FAITH COMMUNITY?

IS IT THE WORLD COMMUNITY?

IS IT THE FAITH COMMUNITY?

IS IT THE WORLD COMMUNITY?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE ROOT CAUSES IS IT THE WORLD COMMUNITY?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE ROOT CAUSES FOR EXAMPLE IN SYRIA, THE AND WHAT ABOUT THE ROOT CAUSES FOR EXAMPLE IN SYRIA, THE ONGOING CONFLICT, AND WHAT'S FOR EXAMPLE IN SYRIA, THE ONGOING CONFLICT, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE?

ONGOING CONFLICT, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE?

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO GOING TO HAPPEN THERE?

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO WATCH.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR ACTION ON WATCH.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR ACTION ON IMMIGRATION AND THE RELIGIOUS >> I'M LOOKING FOR ACTION ON IMMIGRATION AND THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY'S LARGE ROLE IN THAT.

IMMIGRATION AND THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY'S LARGE ROLE IN THAT.

I'M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING COMMUNITY'S LARGE ROLE IN THAT.

I'M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING KEVIN'S POPE FRANCIS NEWS I'M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING KEVIN'S POPE FRANCIS NEWS SERVICE THAT HE SUGGESTED AT THE KEVIN'S POPE FRANCIS NEWS SERVICE THAT HE SUGGESTED AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE I THINK THERE SERVICE THAT HE SUGGESTED AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS SO MUCH THAT IS GOING TO BEGINNING BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS SO MUCH THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.

IS SO MUCH THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING HAPPEN THERE.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT SPIN OFF THAT HAS ON AND IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT SPIN OFF THAT HAS ON SOCIAL JUSTICE ACTION BOTH TO SEE WHAT SPIN OFF THAT HAS ON SOCIAL JUSTICE ACTION BOTH WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, HOW SOCIAL JUSTICE ACTION BOTH WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, HOW MUCH THAT, THERE'S AN WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, HOW MUCH THAT, THERE'S AN INTERACTION WITH OTHER RELIGIOUS MUCH THAT, THERE'S AN INTERACTION WITH OTHER RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS ON THAT.

INTERACTION WITH OTHER RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS ON THAT.

>> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE TRADITIONS ON THAT.

>> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR, KEVIN?

>> THERE'S TWO INTERESTING COURT WATCHING FOR, KEVIN?

>> THERE'S TWO INTERESTING COURT CASES.

ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED CASES.

ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED AND ONE THAT'S STILL IN PROCESS, ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED AND ONE THAT'S STILL IN PROCESS, BUT THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN AND ONE THAT'S STILL IN PROCESS, BUT THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED, A COURT HAS RULED THAT BUT THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED, A COURT HAS RULED THAT CLERGY SHOULD NOT GET A TAX DECIDED, A COURT HAS RULED THAT CLERGY SHOULD NOT GET A TAX BREAK ON THEIR HOUSING EXPENSES.

CLERGY SHOULD NOT GET A TAX BREAK ON THEIR HOUSING EXPENSES.

AND ANOTHER COURT IS CONSIDERING BREAK ON THEIR HOUSING EXPENSES.

AND ANOTHER COURT IS CONSIDERING A CASE THAT RELIGIOUS GROUPS AND ANOTHER COURT IS CONSIDERING A CASE THAT RELIGIOUS GROUPS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME FINANCIAL A CASE THAT RELIGIOUS GROUPS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE RULES AS EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE RULES AS EVERYBODY ELSE.

DISCLOSURE RULES AS EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO, THE RED CROSS HAS TO TELL ELSE.

SO, THE RED CROSS HAS TO TELL YOU WHO THEIR TOP DONORS ARE AND SO, THE RED CROSS HAS TO TELL YOU WHO THEIR TOP DONORS ARE AND HOW THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY, BUT YOU WHO THEIR TOP DONORS ARE AND HOW THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY, BUT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH DOESN'T.

HOW THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY, BUT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH DOESN'T.

AND SO, BOTH OF THESE CASES FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH DOESN'T.

AND SO, BOTH OF THESE CASES TOGETHER RAISE REALLY I THINK AND SO, BOTH OF THESE CASES TOGETHER RAISE REALLY I THINK INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT TOGETHER RAISE REALLY I THINK INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT RELIGION'S ROLE INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT RELIGION'S ROLE IN SOCIETY AND HOW GOVERNMENT QUESTIONS ABOUT RELIGION'S ROLE IN SOCIETY AND HOW GOVERNMENT TREATS RELIGION BECAUSE RIGHT IN SOCIETY AND HOW GOVERNMENT TREATS RELIGION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW RELIGION IS TREATED TREATS RELIGION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW RELIGION IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER GROUPS.

NOW RELIGION IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER GROUPS.

AND SHOULD IT BE THAT WAY IS DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER GROUPS.

AND SHOULD IT BE THAT WAY IS BASICALLY WHAT THESE TWO CASES AND SHOULD IT BE THAT WAY IS BASICALLY WHAT THESE TWO CASES ARE ASKING.

BASICALLY WHAT THESE TWO CASES ARE ASKING.

AND I'LL BE FASCINATED TO SEE ARE ASKING.

AND I'LL BE FASCINATED TO SEE HOW THEY PAN OUT.

>> AND IF SOMEBODY SAID NO, HOW THEY PAN OUT.

>> AND IF SOMEBODY SAID NO, RELIGION SHOULD BE TREATED JUST >> AND IF SOMEBODY SAID NO, RELIGION SHOULD BE TREATED JUST THE WAY EVERYTHING ELSE IS.

RELIGION SHOULD BE TREATED JUST THE WAY EVERYTHING ELSE IS.

WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?

THE WAY EVERYTHING ELSE IS.

WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> WELL, THAT WOULD BASICALLY WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> WELL, THAT WOULD BASICALLY MEAN THAT CLERGY WOULD HAVE TO >> WELL, THAT WOULD BASICALLY MEAN THAT CLERGY WOULD HAVE TO PAY A LOT MORE IN TAXES BECAUSE MEAN THAT CLERGY WOULD HAVE TO PAY A LOT MORE IN TAXES BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T DEDUCT -- YOU PAY A LOT MORE IN TAXES BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T DEDUCT -- YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DEDUCT TENS OF THEY COULDN'T DEDUCT -- YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DEDUCT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF THEIR KNOW, THEY CAN DEDUCT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF THEIR SALARY AND NOT PAY TAXES ON THEM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF THEIR SALARY AND NOT PAY TAXES ON THEM BECAUSE THEY SAY IT GOES TOWARD SALARY AND NOT PAY TAXES ON THEM BECAUSE THEY SAY IT GOES TOWARD THEIR HOUSING.

BECAUSE THEY SAY IT GOES TOWARD THEIR HOUSING.

>> KIM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO THEIR HOUSING.

>> KIM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO WATCH FOR IN THIS NEW YEAR?

>> WELL, LAST YEAR WE HAD A LOT WATCH FOR IN THIS NEW YEAR?

>> WELL, LAST YEAR WE HAD A LOT OF RELIGIOUS ENTREES INTO POP >> WELL, LAST YEAR WE HAD A LOT OF RELIGIOUS ENTREES INTO POP CULTURE, WHICH WE DIDN'T TALK OF RELIGIOUS ENTREES INTO POP CULTURE, WHICH WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT BUT I FOUND REALLY CULTURE, WHICH WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT BUT I FOUND REALLY INTERESTING.

ABOUT BUT I FOUND REALLY INTERESTING.

CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN MUSIC.

INTERESTING.

CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN MUSIC.

NUNS WERE AT THE TOP OF THE CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN MUSIC.

NUNS WERE AT THE TOP OF THE CLASSICAL CHART.

WE HAD BOOKS ABOUT HEAVEN.

CLASSICAL CHART.

WE HAD BOOKS ABOUT HEAVEN.

WE HAD BOOKS ABOUT RICK WARREN'S WE HAD BOOKS ABOUT HEAVEN.

WE HAD BOOKS ABOUT RICK WARREN'S DIET.

I GOING TO BE WATCHING TO SEE DIET.

I GOING TO BE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT RELIGIOUS INFLUENCES THERE I GOING TO BE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT RELIGIOUS INFLUENCES THERE IS IN POP CULTURE THIS YEAR.

WHAT RELIGIOUS INFLUENCES THERE IS IN POP CULTURE THIS YEAR.

>> KIM, OUR TIME IS UP.

IS IN POP CULTURE THIS YEAR.

>> KIM, OUR TIME IS UP.

I'M SORRY TO SAY.

>> KIM, OUR TIME IS UP.

I'M SORRY TO SAY.

KIM LAWTON OF "RELIGION & ETHICS I'M SORRY TO SAY.

KIM LAWTON OF "RELIGION & ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," KEVIN ECKSTROM OF KIM LAWTON OF "RELIGION & ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY," KEVIN ECKSTROM OF RELIGION NEWS SERVICE AND E.J.

NEWSWEEKLY," KEVIN ECKSTROM OF RELIGION NEWS SERVICE AND E.J.

DIONNE OF THE BROOKINGS RELIGION NEWS SERVICE AND E.J.

DIONNE OF THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION, "THE WASHINGTON DIONNE OF THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION, "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY.

INSTITUTION, "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY.

THANKS TO YOU ALL.

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