GWEN: HOW WASHINGTON LEARNED TO JUST GET ALONG AND WHETHER IT CAN LAST.
JUST GET ALONG AND WHETHER IT CAN LAST.
THAT'S TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON CAN LAST.
THAT'S TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
THAT'S TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
>> FOR FAR TOO LONG HERE IN WEEK."
>> FOR FAR TOO LONG HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., COMPROMISE >> FOR FAR TOO LONG HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., COMPROMISE HAS BEEN CONSIDERED A DIRTY WASHINGTON, D.C., COMPROMISE HAS BEEN CONSIDERED A DIRTY WORD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES HAS BEEN CONSIDERED A DIRTY WORD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE FEDERAL BUDGET.
WORD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE FEDERAL BUDGET.
>> WE KNEW THAT IF WE FORCED TO THE FEDERAL BUDGET.
>> WE KNEW THAT IF WE FORCED EACH OTHER TO COMPROMISE AT >> WE KNEW THAT IF WE FORCED EACH OTHER TO COMPROMISE AT ORE PRAL -- PRINCIPLE, WED GET EACH OTHER TO COMPROMISE AT ORE PRAL -- PRINCIPLE, WED GET NOWHERE.
ORE PRAL -- PRINCIPLE, WED GET NOWHERE.
GWEN: HURRAY, A DEAL IS CUT.
NOWHERE.
GWEN: HURRAY, A DEAL IS CUT.
BUT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL GWEN: HURRAY, A DEAL IS CUT.
BUT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL ANGRY AT THE TEA PARTYERS WHO BUT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL ANGRY AT THE TEA PARTYERS WHO ENGINEERED THE FIRST SHUTDOWN.
ANGRY AT THE TEA PARTYERS WHO ENGINEERED THE FIRST SHUTDOWN.
>> THE DAY BEFORE THE ENGINEERED THE FIRST SHUTDOWN.
>> THE DAY BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT OPENED ONE OF THE >> THE DAY BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT OPENED ONE OF THE PEOPLE FROM ONE OF THESE GROUPS GOVERNMENT OPENED ONE OF THE PEOPLE FROM ONE OF THESE GROUPS STOOD UP AND SAID WELL, WE PEOPLE FROM ONE OF THESE GROUPS STOOD UP AND SAID WELL, WE NEVER REALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD STOOD UP AND SAID WELL, WE NEVER REALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK.
NEVER REALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!
WORK.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!
GWEN: AND IN THE SENATE ARE YOU KIDDING ME!
GWEN: AND IN THE SENATE LAWMAKERS ARE PULLING GWEN: AND IN THE SENATE LAWMAKERS ARE PULLING ALL-NIGHTERS, FIGHTING OVER LAWMAKERS ARE PULLING ALL-NIGHTERS, FIGHTING OVER WHITE HOUSE NOMINEES.
ALL-NIGHTERS, FIGHTING OVER WHITE HOUSE NOMINEES.
DOES TS MEHIAN THE WHITE HOUSE WHITE HOUSE NOMINEES.
DOES TS MEHIAN THE WHITE HOUSE IS OUT OF THE WOODS ON DOMESTIC DOES TS MEHIAN THE WHITE HOUSE IS OUT OF THE WOODS ON DOMESTIC POLICY?
IS OUT OF THE WOODS ON DOMESTIC POLICY?
POLLS SAY NO, BUT FOREIGN POLICY?
POLLS SAY NO, BUT FOREIGN POLICY COULD END UP BEING POLLS SAY NO, BUT FOREIGN POLICY COULD END UP BEING BARACK OBAMA'S ENDURING GACYLE.
POLICY COULD END UP BEING BARACK OBAMA'S ENDURING GACYLE.
AT LEAST JOHN KERRY HOMES SO BARACK OBAMA'S ENDURING GACYLE.
AT LEAST JOHN KERRY HOMES SO >> THE UNITED STATES IS AT LEAST JOHN KERRY HOMES SO >> THE UNITED STATES IS STRONGER UNDER THIS FIRST >> THE UNITED STATES IS STRONGER UNDER THIS FIRST AGREEMENT THAN BEFORE.
STRONGER UNDER THIS FIRST AGREEMENT THAN BEFORE.
GWEN: COVERING THE EK,WE MOLLY AGREEMENT THAN BEFORE.
GWEN: COVERING THE EK,WE MOLLY BELL OF JEANNE GWEN: COVERING THE EK,WE MOLLY BELL OF JEANNE CUMMINGS OF BLOOMBERG NEWS, BELL OF JEANNE CUMMINGS OF BLOOMBERG NEWS, JOHN HARWOOD OF CNBC AND "THE CUMMINGS OF BLOOMBERG NEWS, JOHN HARWOOD OF CNBC AND "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND DOYLE JOHN HARWOOD OF CNBC AND "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND DOYLE MCMANUS OF THE "LOS ANGELES NEW YORK TIMES" AND DOYLE MCMANUS OF THE "LOS ANGELES TIMES."
MCMANUS OF THE "LOS ANGELES TIMES."
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND TIMES."
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS >> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, IT HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN IFILL."
ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, NOT YET, GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, NOT YET, BUT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, NOT YET, BUT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS FOUND SOMETHING TO BUT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS FOUND SOMETHING TO AGREE ABOUT THIS WEEK.
IN CONGRESS FOUND SOMETHING TO AGREE ABOUT THIS WEEK.
NOT HEALTH CARE, NOTHING AGREE ABOUT THIS WEEK.
NOT HEALTH CARE, NOTHING SWEEPING ON TAXES AND SPENDING, NOT HEALTH CARE, NOTHING SWEEPING ON TAXES AND SPENDING, CERTAINLY NOT IMMIGRATION, BUT SWEEPING ON TAXES AND SPENDING, CERTAINLY NOT IMMIGRATION, BUT THEY DID AGREE THAT SHUTTING CERTAINLY NOT IMMIGRATION, BUT THEY DID AGREE THAT SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN, THEY DID AGREE THAT SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AGREE ON DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AGREE ON ANYTHING WOULD BE A BAD IDEAFUL BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AGREE ON ANYTHING WOULD BE A BAD IDEAFUL >> WE DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING WE ANYTHING WOULD BE A BAD IDEAFUL >> WE DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING WE WANTED.
>> WE DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING WE WANTED.
NEITHER DID THEY.
WANTED.
NEITHER DID THEY.
THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO DO.
NEITHER DID THEY.
THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO DO.
WE'D SAY, OK, I CAN'T GET THIS THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO DO.
WE'D SAY, OK, I CAN'T GET THIS BUT MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WE'D SAY, OK, I CAN'T GET THIS BUT MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
BUT MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
>> I THINK IT'S A SLIGHTLY AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
>> I THINK IT'S A SLIGHTLY PARTISAN THING TO SAY.
>> I THINK IT'S A SLIGHTLY PARTISAN THING TO SAY.
TO REALLY DO WHAT WE THINK PARTISAN THING TO SAY.
TO REALLY DO WHAT WE THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE WE'RE GOING TO TO REALLY DO WHAT WE THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WIN SOME ELECTIONS.
NEEDS TO BE DONE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WIN SOME ELECTIONS.
IN THE MEANTIME LET'S TRY AND HAVE TO WIN SOME ELECTIONS.
IN THE MEANTIME LET'S TRY AND MAKE THIS DIVIDED GOVERNMENT IN THE MEANTIME LET'S TRY AND MAKE THIS DIVIDED GOVERNMENT WORK.
MAKE THIS DIVIDED GOVERNMENT WORK.
GWEN: BUT THE OUTLINES OF THE WORK.
GWEN: BUT THE OUTLINES OF THE DEBATE FORESHADOWED FIGHTS TO GWEN: BUT THE OUTLINES OF THE DEBATE FORESHADOWED FIGHTS TO COME, PERHAPS IN THE SENATE.
DEBATE FORESHADOWED FIGHTS TO COME, PERHAPS IN THE SENATE.
>> I WILL STAND BEFORE THIS COME, PERHAPS IN THE SENATE.
>> I WILL STAND BEFORE THIS BODY TONIGHT AND SAY THEY >> I WILL STAND BEFORE THIS BODY TONIGHT AND SAY THEY CANNOT VOTE AND WILL NOT VOTE BODY TONIGHT AND SAY THEY CANNOT VOTE AND WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS BUDGET.
CANNOT VOTE AND WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS BUDGET.
GWEN: HE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR THIS BUDGET.
GWEN: HE TALKED ABOUT THIS BUDGET.
GWEN: HE TALKED ABOUT THIS BUDGET.
FIRST OFF, MOLLY, WHAT WAS IN BUDGET.
FIRST OFF, MOLLY, WHAT WAS IN THIS BUDGETS?
FIRST OFF, MOLLY, WHAT WAS IN THIS BUDGETS?
WHAT DID THE HOUSE ACCOMPLISH THIS BUDGETS?
WHAT DID THE HOUSE ACCOMPLISH AND NOT ACCOMPLISH?
WHAT DID THE HOUSE ACCOMPLISH AND NOT ACCOMPLISH?
>> IN A WAY THIS IS A SMALL AND NOT ACCOMPLISH?
>> IN A WAY THIS IS A SMALL DEAL.
>> IN A WAY THIS IS A SMALL DEAL.
IT FUND THE GOVERNMENT FOR ONLY DEAL.
IT FUND THE GOVERNMENT FOR ONLY A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR.
IT FUND THE GOVERNMENT FOR ONLY A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR.
SETS SPENDING LEVELS A LITTLE A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR.
SETS SPENDING LEVELS A LITTLE BIT ABOVE A TRILLION DOLLARS.
SETS SPENDING LEVELS A LITTLE BIT ABOVE A TRILLION DOLLARS.
RESTORELES SOME OF THE DREADED BIT ABOVE A TRILLION DOLLARS.
RESTORELES SOME OF THE DREADED SEQUESTRATION CUTS AND SPEEND RESTORELES SOME OF THE DREADED SEQUESTRATION CUTS AND SPEEND -- SPENDING AND DISCRETIONARY SEQUESTRATION CUTS AND SPEEND -- SPENDING AND DISCRETIONARY SPENDING.
-- SPENDING AND DISCRETIONARY SPENDING.
IT DOES NOT EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT SPENDING.
IT DOES NOT EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT BELVES, WHICH DEMOCRATS REALLY IT DOES NOT EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT BELVES, WHICH DEMOCRATS REALLY WANT AND WOULD SINCE IT SETS BELVES, WHICH DEMOCRATS REALLY WANT AND WOULD SINCE IT SETS SPENDING HIGHER THAN WANT AND WOULD SINCE IT SETS SPENDING HIGHER THAN SEQUESTRATION, IT DOESN'T CUT SPENDING HIGHER THAN SEQUESTRATION, IT DOESN'T CUT AS MUCH SPENDING AS REPUBLICANS SEQUESTRATION, IT DOESN'T CUT AS MUCH SPENDING AS REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE AND DOESN'T DO ANY AS MUCH SPENDING AS REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE AND DOESN'T DO ANY LONG-TERM CHANGES TO THINGS WOULD LIKE AND DOESN'T DO ANY LONG-TERM CHANGES TO THINGS LIKE ENTITLEMENT OR TAX REFORM.
LONG-TERM CHANGES TO THINGS LIKE ENTITLEMENT OR TAX REFORM.
GWEN: SO A REFRESHER FOR THOSE LIKE ENTITLEMENT OR TAX REFORM.
GWEN: SO A REFRESHER FOR THOSE OF US WHO LAST PAID ATTENTION GWEN: SO A REFRESHER FOR THOSE OF US WHO LAST PAID ATTENTION WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN OF US WHO LAST PAID ATTENTION WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN AND WE COULDN'T AGREE ON A WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN AND WE COULDN'T AGREE ON A BUDGET.
AND WE COULDN'T AGREE ON A BUDGET.
WHY WASN'T THE TEA PARTY ABLE BUDGET.
WHY WASN'T THE TEA PARTY ABLE TO STOP IT THIS TIME?
WHY WASN'T THE TEA PARTY ABLE TO STOP IT THIS TIME?
>> SOMEWHERE AROUND AN 8% TO STOP IT THIS TIME?
>> SOMEWHERE AROUND AN 8% POPULARITY RATING.
>> SOMEWHERE AROUND AN 8% POPULARITY RATING.
THAT'S HOW LOW THE REPUBLICANS POPULARITY RATING.
THAT'S HOW LOW THE REPUBLICANS WENT.
THAT'S HOW LOW THE REPUBLICANS WENT.
JOHN BOEHNER GAVE THEM THEIR WENT.
JOHN BOEHNER GAVE THEM THEIR MOMENT AND THEY SAW WHAT BECAME JOHN BOEHNER GAVE THEM THEIR MOMENT AND THEY SAW WHAT BECAME OF AND IT THAT WAS A VERY MOMENT AND THEY SAW WHAT BECAME OF AND IT THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT LESSON FOR THE HOUSE OF AND IT THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT LESSON FOR THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
IMPORTANT LESSON FOR THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
MANY OF THEM WALKED OUT OF THAT REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
MANY OF THEM WALKED OUT OF THAT SAYING NEVER AGAIN OR AT LEAST MANY OF THEM WALKED OUT OF THAT SAYING NEVER AGAIN OR AT LEAST NOT IN AN ELECTION YEAR AND SO SAYING NEVER AGAIN OR AT LEAST NOT IN AN ELECTION YEAR AND SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS GAR NOT IN AN ELECTION YEAR AND SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS GAR BEGIN IS TO PUSH EVERYTHING THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS GAR BEGIN IS TO PUSH EVERYTHING PAST NEXT YEAR'S MID TERM BEGIN IS TO PUSH EVERYTHING PAST NEXT YEAR'S MID TERM ELECTIONS SO THAT THE PAST NEXT YEAR'S MID TERM ELECTIONS SO THAT THE REPUBLICANS CAN NOW FOCUS ON ELECTIONS SO THAT THE REPUBLICANS CAN NOW FOCUS ON JUST, IN THEIR MINDS, JUST REPUBLICANS CAN NOW FOCUS ON JUST, IN THEIR MINDS, JUST ATTACKING HEALTH CARE BECAUSE JUST, IN THEIR MINDS, JUST ATTACKING HEALTH CARE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE ATTACKING HEALTH CARE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE THAT WILL WORK FOR THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE THAT WILL WORK FOR THEM.
AN ISSUE THAT WILL WORK FOR THEM.
GWEN: A VICTORY FOR PATTY THEM.
GWEN: A VICTORY FOR PATTY MURRAY, FOR PAUL RYAN OR JOHN GWEN: A VICTORY FOR PATTY MURRAY, FOR PAUL RYAN OR JOHN BOEHNER HIMSELF?
MURRAY, FOR PAUL RYAN OR JOHN BOEHNER HIMSELF?
>> I DON'T THINK IT WAS A BOEHNER HIMSELF?
>> I DON'T THINK IT WAS A VICTORY NECESSARILY FOR >> I DON'T THINK IT WAS A VICTORY NECESSARILY FOR BOEHNER.
VICTORY NECESSARILY FOR BOEHNER.
ANY BIPARTISAN TEAL -- DEAL HAS BOEHNER.
ANY BIPARTISAN TEAL -- DEAL HAS ELUDED HIM FOR YEARS.
ANY BIPARTISAN TEAL -- DEAL HAS ELUDED HIM FOR YEARS.
RYAN GOT A DEAL BUT IT'S A ELUDED HIM FOR YEARS.
RYAN GOT A DEAL BUT IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD FOR RYAN.
RYAN GOT A DEAL BUT IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD FOR RYAN.
INSIDE THE HOUSE, HIS STOCK DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD FOR RYAN.
INSIDE THE HOUSE, HIS STOCK WENT UP.
INSIDE THE HOUSE, HIS STOCK WENT UP.
IN IOWA, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.
WENT UP.
IN IOWA, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.
SO IT DEPEND ON WHAT HIS IN IOWA, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.
SO IT DEPEND ON WHAT HIS AMBITIONS ARE.
SO IT DEPEND ON WHAT HIS AMBITIONS ARE.
GWEN: MOLLY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
AMBITIONS ARE.
GWEN: MOLLY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THINK BOEHNER IS QUITE GWEN: MOLLY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THINK BOEHNER IS QUITE STRENGTHENED BY THIS DEAL.
>> I THINK BOEHNER IS QUITE STRENGTHENED BY THIS DEAL.
THAT CLIP E-- YOU SHOWED WHERE STRENGTHENED BY THIS DEAL.
THAT CLIP E-- YOU SHOWED WHERE BOEHNER REALLY WENT OFF ON THAT CLIP E-- YOU SHOWED WHERE BOEHNER REALLY WENT OFF ON THESE OUTSIDE GROUPS WHO A LOT BOEHNER REALLY WENT OFF ON THESE OUTSIDE GROUPS WHO A LOT OF REPUBLICANS, EVEN THESE OUTSIDE GROUPS WHO A LOT OF REPUBLICANS, EVEN CONSERVATIVES IN THE HOUSE FEEL OF REPUBLICANS, EVEN CONSERVATIVES IN THE HOUSE FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN PLAYING THEM CONSERVATIVES IN THE HOUSE FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN PLAYING THEM LIKE PAWNS IN A GAME.
LIKE THEY'VE BEEN PLAYING THEM LIKE PAWNS IN A GAME.
THAT THAT HE HAS GROUPS COMMAND LIKE PAWNS IN A GAME.
THAT THAT HE HAS GROUPS COMMAND THEM TO VOTE IN A CERTAIN WAY THAT THAT HE HAS GROUPS COMMAND THEM TO VOTE IN A CERTAIN WAY AND THROW UP THEIR HANDS WHEN THEM TO VOTE IN A CERTAIN WAY AND THROW UP THEIR HANDS WHEN IT DOESN'T WORK OUT AND THE AND THROW UP THEIR HANDS WHEN IT DOESN'T WORK OUT AND THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN.
IT DOESN'T WORK OUT AND THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN.
THIS WAS BOEHNER WRESTING BACK GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN.
THIS WAS BOEHNER WRESTING BACK CONTROL SAYING YOU ARE NOT THIS WAS BOEHNER WRESTING BACK CONTROL SAYING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE BOSS OF ME OR CONTROL SAYING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE BOSS OF ME OR OF US.
GOING TO BE THE BOSS OF ME OR OF US.
WE'RE THE LAWMAKERS HERE.
OF US.
WE'RE THE LAWMAKERS HERE.
WE ARE RUNNING THE HOUSE OF WE'RE THE LAWMAKERS HERE.
WE ARE RUNNING THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND IT WE ARE RUNNING THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND IT HAPPENED.
REPRESENTATIVES AND IT HAPPENED.
HE GOT ALMOST 3/4 OF THE HOUSE HAPPENED.
HE GOT ALMOST 3/4 OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAW CULLS.
HE GOT ALMOST 3/4 OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAW CULLS.
NOW, THE TEA PARTY MAY HAVE THE REPUBLICAN CAW CULLS.
NOW, THE TEA PARTY MAY HAVE THE LAST LATCH IF THEY CAN MAKE NOW, THE TEA PARTY MAY HAVE THE LAST LATCH IF THEY CAN MAKE GOOD ON THEIR THREAT AND THROW LAST LATCH IF THEY CAN MAKE GOOD ON THEIR THREAT AND THROW A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE OUT IN GOOD ON THEIR THREAT AND THROW A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE OUT IN PRIMARIES.
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE OUT IN PRIMARIES.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD WITH PRIMARIES.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD WITH 169 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD WITH 169 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
>> WE'RE USED TO SEEING THE 169 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
>> WE'RE USED TO SEEING THE SENATE ACCOMPLISH THINGS LIKE >> WE'RE USED TO SEEING THE SENATE ACCOMPLISH THINGS LIKE ON IMMIGRATION THEN IT GETS SENATE ACCOMPLISH THINGS LIKE ON IMMIGRATION THEN IT GETS STOPPED IN THE HOUSE BY ON IMMIGRATION THEN IT GETS STOPPED IN THE HOUSE BY IDEOLOGY.
STOPPED IN THE HOUSE BY IDEOLOGY.
HERE YOU HAVE MORE THAN 300 IDEOLOGY.
HERE YOU HAVE MORE THAN 300 VOTES FOR THIS DEAL IN THE HERE YOU HAVE MORE THAN 300 VOTES FOR THIS DEAL IN THE HOUSE, INCLUDING A LARGE VOTES FOR THIS DEAL IN THE HOUSE, INCLUDING A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE, INCLUDING A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AND YET PEOPLE LIKE MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AND YET PEOPLE LIKE ROCKER WICKER WHEN -- IN THAT CAUCUS AND YET PEOPLE LIKE ROCKER WICKER WHEN -- IN THAT CLIP WE JUST SAW -- THERE HAS ROCKER WICKER WHEN -- IN THAT CLIP WE JUST SAW -- THERE HAS BEEN SOME NERVOUSNESS ABOUT CLIP WE JUST SAW -- THERE HAS BEEN SOME NERVOUSNESS ABOUT YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BEEN SOME NERVOUSNESS ABOUT YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET IT IN THE SENATE BUT NOT YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET IT IN THE SENATE BUT NOT FOR SURE.
GET IT IN THE SENATE BUT NOT FOR SURE.
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
FOR SURE.
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
>> MOLLY TOUCHED ON IT AND IT'S WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
>> MOLLY TOUCHED ON IT AND IT'S THE PRIMARIES.
>> MOLLY TOUCHED ON IT AND IT'S THE PRIMARIES.
THE SENATORS ARE FAR MORE THE PRIMARIES.
THE SENATORS ARE FAR MORE VULNERABLE TO LOSING THEIR THE SENATORS ARE FAR MORE VULNERABLE TO LOSING THEIR SEATS WHEN THEY GET PRIMARIES VULNERABLE TO LOSING THEIR SEATS WHEN THEY GET PRIMARIES BY THE TEA PARTY.
SEATS WHEN THEY GET PRIMARIES BY THE TEA PARTY.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, SEVEN OF THE BY THE TEA PARTY.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, SEVEN OF THE 12 REPUBLICAN SENATORS WHO ARE AS OF RIGHT NOW, SEVEN OF THE 12 REPUBLICAN SENATORS WHO ARE SEEKING RE-ELECTION HAVE TEA 12 REPUBLICAN SENATORS WHO ARE SEEKING RE-ELECTION HAVE TEA PARTY PRIMARY CHALLENGES.
SEEKING RE-ELECTION HAVE TEA PARTY PRIMARY CHALLENGES.
INCLUDING THE MINORITY LEADER, PARTY PRIMARY CHALLENGES.
INCLUDING THE MINORITY LEADER, MITCH MCCONNELL.
INCLUDING THE MINORITY LEADER, MITCH MCCONNELL.
SO FOR THEM, THE THREAT FOR TEA MITCH MCCONNELL.
SO FOR THEM, THE THREAT FOR TEA PARTY GROUPS TO PUT MONEY INTO SO FOR THEM, THE THREAT FOR TEA PARTY GROUPS TO PUT MONEY INTO THEIR RACES AND TO COME AFTER PARTY GROUPS TO PUT MONEY INTO THEIR RACES AND TO COME AFTER THEM IS MUCH MORE VIVID THAN IT THEIR RACES AND TO COME AFTER THEM IS MUCH MORE VIVID THAN IT IS NECESSARILY FOR THE HOUSE THEM IS MUCH MORE VIVID THAN IT IS NECESSARILY FOR THE HOUSE MEMBERS.
IS NECESSARILY FOR THE HOUSE MEMBERS.
IF YOU LOOK AT TEXAS WHERE MEMBERS.
IF YOU LOOK AT TEXAS WHERE SENATOR CORNYN IS FACING STEVE IF YOU LOOK AT TEXAS WHERE SENATOR CORNYN IS FACING STEVE STOCKMAN, A HOUSE MEMBER WHO'S SENATOR CORNYN IS FACING STEVE STOCKMAN, A HOUSE MEMBER WHO'S VERY MUCH A TEA PARTY PERSON.
STOCKMAN, A HOUSE MEMBER WHO'S VERY MUCH A TEA PARTY PERSON.
MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT CORNYN IS VERY MUCH A TEA PARTY PERSON.
MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT CORNYN IS VERY WELL ESTABLISHED, A MEMBER MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT CORNYN IS VERY WELL ESTABLISHED, A MEMBER OF THE LEADERSHIP BUT IT WAS IN VERY WELL ESTABLISHED, A MEMBER OF THE LEADERSHIP BUT IT WAS IN TEXAS THAT TED CRUZ TOOK OUT OF THE LEADERSHIP BUT IT WAS IN TEXAS THAT TED CRUZ TOOK OUT THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE SO TEXAS THAT TED CRUZ TOOK OUT THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE SO STRANGE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE SO STRANGE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
SO THERE IS PALPABLE NERVE -- STRANGE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
SO THERE IS PALPABLE NERVE -- NERVOUSNESS AND IT WILL BEING SO THERE IS PALPABLE NERVE -- NERVOUSNESS AND IT WILL BEING IN TO -- INTERESTING TO SEE HOW NERVOUSNESS AND IT WILL BEING IN TO -- INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE CHALLENGED IN TO -- INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE CHALLENGED SENATORS ACTUALLY VOTE NO IN MANY OF THOSE CHALLENGED SENATORS ACTUALLY VOTE NO IN ORDER TO AVOID STIRRING UP MORE SENATORS ACTUALLY VOTE NO IN ORDER TO AVOID STIRRING UP MORE TROUBLE.
ORDER TO AVOID STIRRING UP MORE TROUBLE.
>> I WOULD SAY THERE'S ANOTHER TROUBLE.
>> I WOULD SAY THERE'S ANOTHER SUBPLOT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN >> I WOULD SAY THERE'S ANOTHER SUBPLOT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN 24-HOUR SESSION THANKS TO HARRY SUBPLOT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN 24-HOUR SESSION THANKS TO HARRY REID.
24-HOUR SESSION THANKS TO HARRY REID.
MUCH TOPPED HOWEVER REID.
MUCH TOPPED HOWEVER BIPARTISAN COMMENTARY THERE WAS MUCH TOPPED HOWEVER BIPARTISAN COMMENTARY THERE WAS IN THE SENATE.
BIPARTISAN COMMENTARY THERE WAS IN THE SENATE.
>> HOW MUCH WAS THERE?
IN THE SENATE.
>> HOW MUCH WAS THERE?
[LAUGHTER] >> HOW MUCH WAS THERE?
[LAUGHTER] GWEN: WE CALLED THE NUCLEAR [LAUGHTER] GWEN: WE CALLED THE NUCLEAR OPTION AND NOW IT'S KIND OF -- GWEN: WE CALLED THE NUCLEAR OPTION AND NOW IT'S KIND OF -- >> MAJORITY RULES.
OPTION AND NOW IT'S KIND OF -- >> MAJORITY RULES.
GWEN: MAJORITY RULES AND THESE >> MAJORITY RULES.
GWEN: MAJORITY RULES AND THESE JUDGES AND ADMINISTRATION GWEN: MAJORITY RULES AND THESE JUDGES AND ADMINISTRATION APPOINTEES ARE BEING APPOINTED JUDGES AND ADMINISTRATION APPOINTEES ARE BEING APPOINTED PRETTY ROUTINELY.
APPOINTEES ARE BEING APPOINTED PRETTY ROUTINELY.
>> WHAT HAPPENED ON THE PRETTY ROUTINELY.
>> WHAT HAPPENED ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE ON THE HOUSE?
>> WHAT HAPPENED ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE ON THE HOUSE?
THERE WAS A THREAT THERE THAT A DEMOCRATIC SIDE ON THE HOUSE?
THERE WAS A THREAT THERE THAT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WHO HATED THIS THERE WAS A THREAT THERE THAT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WHO HATED THIS BILL AS MUCH AS A LOT OF THE LOT OF DEMOCRATS WHO HATED THIS BILL AS MUCH AS A LOT OF THE REPUBLICANS WERE GOING TO TAKE BILL AS MUCH AS A LOT OF THE REPUBLICANS WERE GOING TO TAKE A REPUBLICANS WERE GOING TO TAKE A >> THE PHRASE NANCY PELOSI A >> THE PHRASE NANCY PELOSI USED, SHE TOLD HER CAUCUS TO >> THE PHRASE NANCY PELOSI USED, SHE TOLD HER CAUCUS TO EMBRACE THE SUCK.
USED, SHE TOLD HER CAUCUS TO EMBRACE THE SUCK.
>> CAN WE SAY THAT ON TV?
EMBRACE THE SUCK.
>> CAN WE SAY THAT ON TV?
>> NANCY PELOSI WOULD NOT >> CAN WE SAY THAT ON TV?
>> NANCY PELOSI WOULD NOT REPEAT IT IN A TELEVISION >> NANCY PELOSI WOULD NOT REPEAT IT IN A TELEVISION INTERVIEW.
REPEAT IT IN A TELEVISION INTERVIEW.
SHE'S HAD HER FACE IN A FEW INTERVIEW.
SHE'S HAD HER FACE IN A FEW COMMERCIALS OVER THE YEARS.
SHE'S HAD HER FACE IN A FEW COMMERCIALS OVER THE YEARS.
DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THRILL AND COMMERCIALS OVER THE YEARS.
DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THRILL AND WOULD I THINK THAT IS A SIGN DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THRILL AND WOULD I THINK THAT IS A SIGN THAT BOTH SIGNS GOT ABOUT AS WOULD I THINK THAT IS A SIGN THAT BOTH SIGNS GOT ABOUT AS MUCH AS THEY COULD OUT OF THIS THAT BOTH SIGNS GOT ABOUT AS MUCH AS THEY COULD OUT OF THIS BILL.
MUCH AS THEY COULD OUT OF THIS BILL.
IT'S MOSTLY THE FAILURE TO BILL.
IT'S MOSTLY THE FAILURE TO EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE IT'S MOSTLY THE FAILURE TO EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE THE DEMOCRATS ARE MAD ABOUT AND EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE THE DEMOCRATS ARE MAD ABOUT AND THEY SAY THEY'LL STILL FIGHT ON THE DEMOCRATS ARE MAD ABOUT AND THEY SAY THEY'LL STILL FIGHT ON THAT IN JANUARY.
THEY SAY THEY'LL STILL FIGHT ON THAT IN JANUARY.
>> THAT'S THE THING, THE THAT IN JANUARY.
>> THAT'S THE THING, THE DEMOCRATS TAKE THAT ISSUE INTO >> THAT'S THE THING, THE DEMOCRATS TAKE THAT ISSUE INTO THE CAMPAIGN YEAR AND THAT'S DEMOCRATS TAKE THAT ISSUE INTO THE CAMPAIGN YEAR AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD ISSUE FOR THE CAMPAIGN YEAR AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD ISSUE FOR THEM TO TAKE INTO A POLITICAL NOT NECESSARILY A BAD ISSUE FOR THEM TO TAKE INTO A POLITICAL SEASON IN WHICH THE LAST CYCLE, THEM TO TAKE INTO A POLITICAL SEASON IN WHICH THE LAST CYCLE, WHAT WAS THE MESSAGE?
SEASON IN WHICH THE LAST CYCLE, WHAT WAS THE MESSAGE?
THAT HEY ONLY CARE ABOUT RICH WHAT WAS THE MESSAGE?
THAT HEY ONLY CARE ABOUT RICH PEOPLE SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS CAN THAT HEY ONLY CARE ABOUT RICH PEOPLE SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS CAN TAKE THAT INTO THE 2014 MID PEOPLE SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS CAN TAKE THAT INTO THE 2014 MID TERMS.
TAKE THAT INTO THE 2014 MID TERMS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASK.
TERMS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASK.
IF YOU GET THAT INTO JANUARY, A >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASK.
IF YOU GET THAT INTO JANUARY, A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR IF YOU GET THAT INTO JANUARY, A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT.
MILLION PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT.
DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE ENOUGH UNEMPLOYMENT.
DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE ENOUGH LEVERAGE AT THIS POINT TO -- AT DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE ENOUGH LEVERAGE AT THIS POINT TO -- AT THAT POINT TO MAKE A FIGHT ON LEVERAGE AT THIS POINT TO -- AT THAT POINT TO MAKE A FIGHT ON IT?
THAT POINT TO MAKE A FIGHT ON IT?
>> THEY CAN'T WIN IT.
IT?
>> THEY CAN'T WIN IT.
THE DEMOCRATS ALSO, LIKE THE >> THEY CAN'T WIN IT.
THE DEMOCRATS ALSO, LIKE THE REPUBLICANS, HAVE GOT TO FOCUS THE DEMOCRATS ALSO, LIKE THE REPUBLICANS, HAVE GOT TO FOCUS NOW ON HEALTH CARE.
REPUBLICANS, HAVE GOT TO FOCUS NOW ON HEALTH CARE.
THEY BELIEVE, SOME, SENATOR NOW ON HEALTH CARE.
THEY BELIEVE, SOME, SENATOR REID IN PARTICULAR THAT THEY THEY BELIEVE, SOME, SENATOR REID IN PARTICULAR THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT AN ASSET IF THEY REID IN PARTICULAR THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT AN ASSET IF THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK AND IF THEY CAN MAKE IT AN ASSET IF THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK AND IF THEY CAN GET THEIR MESSAGING RIGHT CAN MAKE IT WORK AND IF THEY CAN GET THEIR MESSAGING RIGHT AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE HOPING CAN GET THEIR MESSAGING RIGHT AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE HOPING FOR THE THIRD STRAIGHT CYCLE AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE HOPING FOR THE THIRD STRAIGHT CYCLE THAT THIS BECOMES THEIR ISSUE, FOR THE THIRD STRAIGHT CYCLE THAT THIS BECOMES THEIR ISSUE, THEIR ACE IN THE HOLE.
THAT THIS BECOMES THEIR ISSUE, THEIR ACE IN THE HOLE.
GWEN: ISN'T THERE ALSO ANOTHER THEIR ACE IN THE HOLE.
GWEN: ISN'T THERE ALSO ANOTHER THING LOOMING?
GWEN: ISN'T THERE ALSO ANOTHER THING LOOMING?
THAT'S THAT DEBT CEILING FIGHT.
THING LOOMING?
THAT'S THAT DEBT CEILING FIGHT.
IT'S NOT OVER.
THAT'S THAT DEBT CEILING FIGHT.
IT'S NOT OVER.
THEY SETTLED THIS SMALL PROBLEM IT'S NOT OVER.
THEY SETTLED THIS SMALL PROBLEM WITH A SMALL DEAL BUT THERE'S THEY SETTLED THIS SMALL PROBLEM WITH A SMALL DEAL BUT THERE'S KIND OF A BIGGER ISSUE, ROCK, WITH A SMALL DEAL BUT THERE'S KIND OF A BIGGER ISSUE, ROCK, BOLDER AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.
KIND OF A BIGGER ISSUE, ROCK, BOLDER AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
BOLDER AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
THE DEBT CEILING WILL BE HIT IN >> THAT'S RIGHT.
THE DEBT CEILING WILL BE HIT IN LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH THE DEBT CEILING WILL BE HIT IN LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH WILL HAVE TO BE LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH WILL HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT TO WILL HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.
SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.
REPUBLICANS HAVE HISTORICALLY RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.
REPUBLICANS HAVE HISTORICALLY USED IT FOR LEVERAGE.
REPUBLICANS HAVE HISTORICALLY USED IT FOR LEVERAGE.
THE ADMINISTRATION AND HARRY USED IT FOR LEVERAGE.
THE ADMINISTRATION AND HARRY REID'S LINE IS THERE IS NO THE ADMINISTRATION AND HARRY REID'S LINE IS THERE IS NO NEGOTIATING AROUND THE FULL REID'S LINE IS THERE IS NO NEGOTIATING AROUND THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED NEGOTIATING AROUND THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES.
FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES.
WE'LL SEE IF REPUBLICANS FEEL STATES.
WE'LL SEE IF REPUBLICANS FEEL ABOUT THE CHANCE OF DEFAULT THE WE'LL SEE IF REPUBLICANS FEEL ABOUT THE CHANCE OF DEFAULT THE WAY THEY DO ABOUT THE CHANCE OF ABOUT THE CHANCE OF DEFAULT THE WAY THEY DO ABOUT THE CHANCE OF SHUTDOWN.
WAY THEY DO ABOUT THE CHANCE OF SHUTDOWN.
>> A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF SHUTDOWN.
>> A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED THIS DEAL >> A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED THIS DEAL THAN REPUBLICANS.
DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED THIS DEAL THAN REPUBLICANS.
IS IT FAIR TO LOOK AT JOHN THAN REPUBLICANS.
IS IT FAIR TO LOOK AT JOHN BOEHNER AND NANCY PELOSI AND IS IT FAIR TO LOOK AT JOHN BOEHNER AND NANCY PELOSI AND SAY ONE LEADER HAS CONTROL OVER BOEHNER AND NANCY PELOSI AND SAY ONE LEADER HAS CONTROL OVER HIS CAUCUS AND CAN DELIVER THE SAY ONE LEADER HAS CONTROL OVER HIS CAUCUS AND CAN DELIVER THE VOTES AND ONE IS STRUGGLING TO HIS CAUCUS AND CAN DELIVER THE VOTES AND ONE IS STRUGGLING TO DO THAT?
VOTES AND ONE IS STRUGGLING TO DO THAT?
>> THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR DO THAT?
>> THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR YEARS.
>> THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR YEARS.
GWEN: EXCEPT HE DELIVERED THE YEARS.
GWEN: EXCEPT HE DELIVERED THE VOTES THIS TIME.
GWEN: EXCEPT HE DELIVERED THE VOTES THIS TIME.
>> HE DID BUT NOT IN AS HIGH A VOTES THIS TIME.
>> HE DID BUT NOT IN AS HIGH A PROPORTION AS PELOSI DID.
>> HE DID BUT NOT IN AS HIGH A PROPORTION AS PELOSI DID.
>> PELOSI IS A VERY GOOD LEADER PROPORTION AS PELOSI DID.
>> PELOSI IS A VERY GOOD LEADER OF HER CAUCUS, NO QUESTION >> PELOSI IS A VERY GOOD LEADER OF HER CAUCUS, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
OF HER CAUCUS, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
BUT GETTING BACK TO THE DEBT ABOUT IT.
BUT GETTING BACK TO THE DEBT CEILING, IF THAT FIGHT COMES BUT GETTING BACK TO THE DEBT CEILING, IF THAT FIGHT COMES AND WE SEE THE SAME KIND OF CEILING, IF THAT FIGHT COMES AND WE SEE THE SAME KIND OF BRINKSMANSHIP OVER A NATIONAL AND WE SEE THE SAME KIND OF BRINKSMANSHIP OVER A NATIONAL DEFAULT, THAT IS THE RUPTURE BRINKSMANSHIP OVER A NATIONAL DEFAULT, THAT IS THE RUPTURE THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN THE DEFAULT, THAT IS THE RUPTURE THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND REPUBLICANS AND SO THAT'S WHAT BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND REPUBLICANS AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAS SENT THE U.S. CHAMBER INTO REPUBLICANS AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAS SENT THE U.S. CHAMBER INTO THESE PRIMARIES TO TRY TO HAS SENT THE U.S. CHAMBER INTO THESE PRIMARIES TO TRY TO SQUARE UP AGAINST THE TEA THESE PRIMARIES TO TRY TO SQUARE UP AGAINST THE TEA PARTY.
SQUARE UP AGAINST THE TEA PARTY.
THE CHAMBER AND THE BUSINESS PARTY.
THE CHAMBER AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY DIDN'T GET IN BECAUSE THE CHAMBER AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY DIDN'T GET IN BECAUSE OF THE SHUTDOWN, ALTHOUGH THAT COMMUNITY DIDN'T GET IN BECAUSE OF THE SHUTDOWN, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS IRRITATING AND THEY DIDN'T OF THE SHUTDOWN, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS IRRITATING AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT.
WAS IRRITATING AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT.
IT WAS WHEN YOU HAVE SOME LIKE IT.
IT WAS WHEN YOU HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE SAYING IT WAS WHEN YOU HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE SAYING WELL, LET'S DEFAULT.
MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE SAYING WELL, LET'S DEFAULT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WELL, LET'S DEFAULT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
LET'S JUST GIVE IT A SHOT.
A PROBLEM.
LET'S JUST GIVE IT A SHOT.
THAT'S WHAT DROVE THE BUSINESS LET'S JUST GIVE IT A SHOT.
THAT'S WHAT DROVE THE BUSINESS GROUPS CRAZY SO IT WILL BE THAT'S WHAT DROVE THE BUSINESS GROUPS CRAZY SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING IF THAT FIGHT COMES GROUPS CRAZY SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING IF THAT FIGHT COMES AGAIN OR NOT.
INTERESTING IF THAT FIGHT COMES AGAIN OR NOT.
GWEN: AND IT'S TOO SOON FOR AGAIN OR NOT.
GWEN: AND IT'S TOO SOON FOR EITHER DEMOCRATS OR THE GWEN: AND IT'S TOO SOON FOR EITHER DEMOCRATS OR THE BUSINESS-MINDED REPUBLICANS TO EITHER DEMOCRATS OR THE BUSINESS-MINDED REPUBLICANS TO SAY THAT THE TEA PARTY HAS BEEN BUSINESS-MINDED REPUBLICANS TO SAY THAT THE TEA PARTY HAS BEEN DEFANGED AS A RESULT OF THIS.
SAY THAT THE TEA PARTY HAS BEEN DEFANGED AS A RESULT OF THIS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
DEFANGED AS A RESULT OF THIS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THE TEA PARTY HAS SEEN >> ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THE TEA PARTY HAS SEEN THEY NOW HAVE TO TAKE THIS I THINK THE TEA PARTY HAS SEEN THEY NOW HAVE TO TAKE THIS FIGHT TO THE PRIMARIES.
THEY NOW HAVE TO TAKE THIS FIGHT TO THE PRIMARIES.
I DON'T THINK WE KNOW.
FIGHT TO THE PRIMARIES.
I DON'T THINK WE KNOW.
THE TEA PARTY PLAYED REALLY BIG I DON'T THINK WE KNOW.
THE TEA PARTY PLAYED REALLY BIG IN 2010.
THE TEA PARTY PLAYED REALLY BIG IN 2010.
IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO PLAY IN IN 2010.
IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO PLAY IN A MID TERM WHERE TURNOUT IS IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO PLAY IN A MID TERM WHERE TURNOUT IS LOWER AND IT'S A MORE A MID TERM WHERE TURNOUT IS LOWER AND IT'S A MORE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE.
LOWER AND IT'S A MORE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE.
BE YOU THEY NOTABLY ELEVATED A REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE.
BE YOU THEY NOTABLY ELEVATED A LOT OF CANDIDATES IN PRIMARIES BE YOU THEY NOTABLY ELEVATED A LOT OF CANDIDATES IN PRIMARIES WHO THEN LOST IN THE GENERAL LOT OF CANDIDATES IN PRIMARIES WHO THEN LOST IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
WHO THEN LOST IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
THE TEA PARTY REALLY HAS A LOT ELECTION.
THE TEA PARTY REALLY HAS A LOT OF CLOUT IN THE HOUSE WHERE A THE TEA PARTY REALLY HAS A LOT OF CLOUT IN THE HOUSE WHERE A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE GOT ELECTED OF CLOUT IN THE HOUSE WHERE A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE GOT ELECTED AND IN THE SENATE WITH PEOPLE LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE GOT ELECTED AND IN THE SENATE WITH PEOPLE LIKE TED CRUZ.
AND IN THE SENATE WITH PEOPLE LIKE TED CRUZ.
BY -- BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AS LIKE TED CRUZ.
BY -- BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH SUCCESS IN 2012 AND BY -- BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH SUCCESS IN 2012 AND THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A MUCH SUCCESS IN 2012 AND THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A FIGHT THIS TIME WHERE THE THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A FIGHT THIS TIME WHERE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND PILLARS FIGHT THIS TIME WHERE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND PILLARS OF THE REPUBLICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND PILLARS OF THE REPUBLICAN ACCOMPLISHMENT AND TAKEN IT -- OF THE REPUBLICAN ACCOMPLISHMENT AND TAKEN IT -- ESTABLISHMENT HAVE TAKEN IT ACCOMPLISHMENT AND TAKEN IT -- ESTABLISHMENT HAVE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES.
ESTABLISHMENT HAVE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES.
>> BLOOMBERG HAD A POLL AND A UPON THEMSELVES.
>> BLOOMBERG HAD A POLL AND A MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS, >> BLOOMBERG HAD A POLL AND A MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS SAID MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS SAID NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR THE CHAMBER DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS SAID NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR THE CHAMBER TO INTERVENE.
NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR THE CHAMBER TO INTERVENE.
GWEN: AS ALL THESE FIGHTS ARE TO INTERVENE.
GWEN: AS ALL THESE FIGHTS ARE GOING ON IN THE REPUBLICAN GWEN: AS ALL THESE FIGHTS ARE GOING ON IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, YOU WOULD THINK THE GOING ON IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, YOU WOULD THINK THE PRESIDENT WOULD BE KIND OF PARTY, YOU WOULD THINK THE PRESIDENT WOULD BE KIND OF HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
PRESIDENT WOULD BE KIND OF HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
LET'S SEE HOW HE'S TAKING ON HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
LET'S SEE HOW HE'S TAKING ON THIS.
LET'S SEE HOW HE'S TAKING ON THIS.
HE WAS CHEERED IN SOUTH AFRICA THIS.
HE WAS CHEERED IN SOUTH AFRICA AS HE DELIVERED A MOVING EULOGY HE WAS CHEERED IN SOUTH AFRICA AS HE DELIVERED A MOVING EULOGY TO NELSON MANDELA AND PEOPLE AS HE DELIVERED A MOVING EULOGY TO NELSON MANDELA AND PEOPLE ARE SLOWLY SIGNING UP FOR TO NELSON MANDELA AND PEOPLE ARE SLOWLY SIGNING UP FOR HEALTH CARE BUT A NEW POLL ARE SLOWLY SIGNING UP FOR HEALTH CARE BUT A NEW POLL SHOWS HIS POLITICAL STANDING HEALTH CARE BUT A NEW POLL SHOWS HIS POLITICAL STANDING HAS TAKEN A SERIOUS, PERHAPS SHOWS HIS POLITICAL STANDING HAS TAKEN A SERIOUS, PERHAPS PERMANENT HIM.
HAS TAKEN A SERIOUS, PERHAPS PERMANENT HIM.
JOHN HARWOOD, WHAT ARE THE PERMANENT HIM.
JOHN HARWOOD, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS?
JOHN HARWOOD, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS?
>> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME TALK NUMBERS?
>> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS >> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
ABOUT SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
YOU MENTIONED THEOR THE THAT HAPPENED.
YOU MENTIONED THEOR THE PRESIDENT.
YOU MENTIONED THEOR THE PRESIDENT.
I DO THINK THIS DEAL HAS VERY PRESIDENT.
I DO THINK THIS DEAL HAS VERY IMPORTANT POLITICAL BENEFITS I DO THINK THIS DEAL HAS VERY IMPORTANT POLITICAL BENEFITS FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, THIS IMPORTANT POLITICAL BENEFITS FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, THIS BUDGET DEAL WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, THIS BUDGET DEAL WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
BUDGET DEAL WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
THE REASON IS THAT CONGRESS HAS ABOUT.
THE REASON IS THAT CONGRESS HAS BEEN ACTIVELY HARMING THE THE REASON IS THAT CONGRESS HAS BEEN ACTIVELY HARMING THE ECONOMY BUT THE BRINKSMANSHIP, BEEN ACTIVELY HARMING THE ECONOMY BUT THE BRINKSMANSHIP, THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BY THE ECONOMY BUT THE BRINKSMANSHIP, THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BY THE PROBLEM WITH THE DEBT CEILING.
THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BY THE PROBLEM WITH THE DEBT CEILING.
I THINK THE DEBT CEILING IS PROBLEM WITH THE DEBT CEILING.
I THINK THE DEBT CEILING IS LIKELY TO GET RAISED WITHOUT I THINK THE DEBT CEILING IS LIKELY TO GET RAISED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
LIKELY TO GET RAISED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
SO FOR THE PRESIDENT TO GET TO INCIDENT.
SO FOR THE PRESIDENT TO GET TO THE END OF THE WEEK AND SAY WE SO FOR THE PRESIDENT TO GET TO THE END OF THE WEEK AND SAY WE HAVE A TRUCE ON THE BUDGET.
THE END OF THE WEEK AND SAY WE HAVE A TRUCE ON THE BUDGET.
THE FACTS THAT THE ECONOMY IS HAVE A TRUCE ON THE BUDGET.
THE FACTS THAT THE ECONOMY IS NOT GETTING PUMMELED BY THE THE FACTS THAT THE ECONOMY IS NOT GETTING PUMMELED BY THE CAPITAL, THAT'S A GOOD THING NOT GETTING PUMMELED BY THE CAPITAL, THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE PRESIDENT.
CAPITAL, THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE PRESIDENT.
WE HAD A POLL THIS WEEK THAT FOR THE PRESIDENT.
WE HAD A POLL THIS WEEK THAT TOOK STOCK OF THE EFFECT OF THE WE HAD A POLL THIS WEEK THAT TOOK STOCK OF THE EFFECT OF THE END OF YEAR TROUBLES THE TOOK STOCK OF THE EFFECT OF THE END OF YEAR TROUBLES THE PRESIDENT HAD ON HEALTH CARE.
END OF YEAR TROUBLES THE PRESIDENT HAD ON HEALTH CARE.
THERE'S VERY SERIOUS FALLOUT PRESIDENT HAD ON HEALTH CARE.
THERE'S VERY SERIOUS FALLOUT FOR HIM.
THERE'S VERY SERIOUS FALLOUT FOR HIM.
HIS POLL APPROVAL RATING TICKED FOR HIM.
HIS POLL APPROVAL RATING TICKED UP JUST ONE POINT SINCE THE POP HIS POLL APPROVAL RATING TICKED UP JUST ONE POINT SINCE THE POP ABOUT A MONTH AGO AT THE HEIGHT UP JUST ONE POINT SINCE THE POP ABOUT A MONTH AGO AT THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUGGLES OVER HEALTH ABOUT A MONTH AGO AT THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUGGLES OVER HEALTH CARE.
OF THE STRUGGLES OVER HEALTH CARE.
STILL 54% OF THE PEOPLE, THE CARE.
STILL 54% OF THE PEOPLE, THE HIGHEST WE'VE SHOWN IN OUR POLL STILL 54% OF THE PEOPLE, THE HIGHEST WE'VE SHOWN IN OUR POLL DISPROVING OF HIS PERFORMANCE.
HIGHEST WE'VE SHOWN IN OUR POLL DISPROVING OF HIS PERFORMANCE.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, ON HIS DISPROVING OF HIS PERFORMANCE.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, ON HIS PERSONAL CRITICSIST I SAID HE'S MORE IMPORTANTLY, ON HIS PERSONAL CRITICSIST I SAID HE'S FAKE -- TAKING A -- PERSONAL CRITICSIST I SAID HE'S FAKE -- TAKING A -- CHARACTERISTICS HE'S TAKING A FAKE -- TAKING A -- CHARACTERISTICS HE'S TAKING A HIT.
CHARACTERISTICS HE'S TAKING A HIT.
THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN HIT.
THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE STILL LIKE THE THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE STILL LIKE THE PRESIDENT.
PEOPLE STILL LIKE THE PRESIDENT.
BUT IT'S A SMALLER MAJORITY.
PRESIDENT.
BUT IT'S A SMALLER MAJORITY.
AND SPECIFICS LIKE IS HE HONEST BUT IT'S A SMALLER MAJORITY.
AND SPECIFICS LIKE IS HE HONEST HE PEOPLE SAID YES.
ONLY 37% AND SPECIFICS LIKE IS HE HONEST HE PEOPLE SAID YES.
ONLY 37% THAT IS A BY BILL AT A TIMING HE PEOPLE SAID YES.
ONLY 37% THAT IS A BY BILL AT A TIMING THING.
THAT IS A BY BILL AT A TIMING THING.
THE WEBSITE CAPPED THE WEEK BY THING.
THE WEBSITE CAPPED THE WEEK BY DECLARING THE IF YOU LIKE YOUR THE WEBSITE CAPPED THE WEEK BY DECLARING THE IF YOU LIKE YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN YOU CAN KEEP DECLARING THE IF YOU LIKE YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN YOU CAN KEEP IT THE LIE OF THE YEAR.
HEALTH CARE PLAN YOU CAN KEEP IT THE LIE OF THE YEAR.
THAT IS A SMALL EMBLEM OF IT THE LIE OF THE YEAR.
THAT IS A SMALL EMBLEM OF WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HIS POLL THAT IS A SMALL EMBLEM OF WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HIS POLL NUMBERS.
WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HIS POLL NUMBERS.
PEOPLE SAW A VERY HIGH-PROFILE NUMBERS.
PEOPLE SAW A VERY HIGH-PROFILE THING THAT HE SAID, CONCLUDED PEOPLE SAW A VERY HIGH-PROFILE THING THAT HE SAID, CONCLUDED THAT IT WASN'T TRUE.
THING THAT HE SAID, CONCLUDED THAT IT WASN'T TRUE.
NOW, IS IT PERMANENT?
THAT IT WASN'T TRUE.
NOW, IS IT PERMANENT?
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS NOW, IS IT PERMANENT?
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS PERMANENT IN OUR POLITICS RIGHT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS PERMANENT IN OUR POLITICS RIGHT NOW SO I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY PERMANENT IN OUR POLITICS RIGHT NOW SO I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, NOW THAT THE WEBSITE NOW SO I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, NOW THAT THE WEBSITE IS ON STRONGER FOOTING.
POSSIBLE, NOW THAT THE WEBSITE IS ON STRONGER FOOTING.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO GO IS ON STRONGER FOOTING.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO GO TO -- DO TO GET THE EXCHANGES THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO GO TO -- DO TO GET THE EXCHANGES HEALTHY BY GETTING THE PEOPLE TO -- DO TO GET THE EXCHANGES HEALTHY BY GETTING THE PEOPLE THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT HEALTHY BY GETTING THE PEOPLE THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT FINANCIALLY VIABLE, THE RIGHT THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT FINANCIALLY VIABLE, THE RIGHT MIX OF PEOPLE AND IT'S OF FINANCIALLY VIABLE, THE RIGHT MIX OF PEOPLE AND IT'S OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE, I THINK MIX OF PEOPLE AND IT'S OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE, I THINK BY THE ADMINISTRATION BY THE PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE, I THINK BY THE ADMINISTRATION BY THE END OF THIS MONTH TO GET ALL BY THE ADMINISTRATION BY THE END OF THIS MONTH TO GET ALL THE PEOPLE WHOSE PLANS WERE END OF THIS MONTH TO GET ALL THE PEOPLE WHOSE PLANS WERE CANCELED WHO WANT TO BUY THE PEOPLE WHOSE PLANS WERE CANCELED WHO WANT TO BUY COVERAGE, GET THEM COVERAGE SO CANCELED WHO WANT TO BUY COVERAGE, GET THEM COVERAGE SO THAT NOBODY CAN SAY BECAUSE OF COVERAGE, GET THEM COVERAGE SO THAT NOBODY CAN SAY BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT NOBODY CAN SAY BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITHOUT INSURANCE HAS GONE UP OBAMACARE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITHOUT INSURANCE HAS GONE UP BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO WITHOUT INSURANCE HAS GONE UP BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BUY COVERAGE.
BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BUY COVERAGE.
>> LET ME GO BACK TO THAT BIG BUY COVERAGE.
>> LET ME GO BACK TO THAT BIG QUESTION, IS IT PERMANENT OR >> LET ME GO BACK TO THAT BIG QUESTION, IS IT PERMANENT OR TRANSYENLTS?
QUESTION, IS IT PERMANENT OR TRANSYENLTS?
WE HAVE ACE CASES OF PRESIDENTS TRANSYENLTS?
WE HAVE ACE CASES OF PRESIDENTS WHO HIT TERRIBLE BUMPS IN THEIR WE HAVE ACE CASES OF PRESIDENTS WHO HIT TERRIBLE BUMPS IN THEIR SECOND YEARS, RONALD REAGAN AND WHO HIT TERRIBLE BUMPS IN THEIR SECOND YEARS, RONALD REAGAN AND BILL CLINTONEN AND RECOVERED SECOND YEARS, RONALD REAGAN AND BILL CLINTONEN AND RECOVERED BEAUTIFULLY.
BILL CLINTONEN AND RECOVERED BEAUTIFULLY.
AND A RECENT EXAMPLE OF GEORGE BEAUTIFULLY.
AND A RECENT EXAMPLE OF GEORGE W. BUSH WHO JUST KEPT HITTING AND A RECENT EXAMPLE OF GEORGE W. BUSH WHO JUST KEPT HITTING BUMPS AND WENT ON DOWN.
W. BUSH WHO JUST KEPT HITTING BUMPS AND WENT ON DOWN.
ANY EVIDENCE AS TO WHAT TYPE BUMPS AND WENT ON DOWN.
ANY EVIDENCE AS TO WHAT TYPE THIS IS?
ANY EVIDENCE AS TO WHAT TYPE THIS IS?
>> YOU SHOULDN'T EXPECT HIM TO THIS IS?
>> YOU SHOULDN'T EXPECT HIM TO FOLLOW A BUSH PATTERN OF >> YOU SHOULDN'T EXPECT HIM TO FOLLOW A BUSH PATTERN OF CONTINUING TO GO DOWN.
FOLLOW A BUSH PATTERN OF CONTINUING TO GO DOWN.
THE SUCCESSION OF BLOWS CONTINUING TO GO DOWN.
THE SUCCESSION OF BLOWS PRESIDENT BUSH HAD.
THE SUCCESSION OF BLOWS PRESIDENT BUSH HAD.
AN IRAQ WAR GOING BADLY.
PRESIDENT BUSH HAD.
AN IRAQ WAR GOING BADLY.
HURRICANE KATRINA, WHICH CAUSED AN IRAQ WAR GOING BADLY.
HURRICANE KATRINA, WHICH CAUSED PEOPLE TO SAY MAYBE HE'S NOT HURRICANE KATRINA, WHICH CAUSED PEOPLE TO SAY MAYBE HE'S NOT COMPETENT AT ALL AND THEN A PEOPLE TO SAY MAYBE HE'S NOT COMPETENT AT ALL AND THEN A RECESSION AND FINANCIAL CRISIS COMPETENT AT ALL AND THEN A RECESSION AND FINANCIAL CRISIS AFTER THAT THAT WAS A RECESSION AND FINANCIAL CRISIS AFTER THAT THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS SET OF BLOWS THE AFTER THAT THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS SET OF BLOWS THE PRESIDENT HAD.
TREMENDOUS SET OF BLOWS THE PRESIDENT HAD.
I THINK THIS PRESIDENT HAS A PRESIDENT HAD.
I THINK THIS PRESIDENT HAS A GROWING ECONOMY, AN IMPROVING I THINK THIS PRESIDENT HAS A GROWING ECONOMY, AN IMPROVING JOB MARKET SO IF HE CAN GET THE GROWING ECONOMY, AN IMPROVING JOB MARKET SO IF HE CAN GET THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM FIGURED OUT JOB MARKET SO IF HE CAN GET THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM FIGURED OUT SO THAT THE ENROLLMENT PROCESS HEALTH CARE SYSTEM FIGURED OUT SO THAT THE ENROLLMENT PROCESS IS SMOOTH ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE SO THAT THE ENROLLMENT PROCESS IS SMOOTH ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT IS SMOOTH ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT AND SAY THEY SCREWED THIS UP I DON'T LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT AND SAY THEY SCREWED THIS UP I THINK HE HAS A CHANCE AMOUNT A AND SAY THEY SCREWED THIS UP I THINK HE HAS A CHANCE AMOUNT A RECOVERY.
THINK HE HAS A CHANCE AMOUNT A RECOVERY.
>> WILL THEY BELIEVE IN HIM RECOVERY.
>> WILL THEY BELIEVE IN HIM AGAIN?
>> WILL THEY BELIEVE IN HIM AGAIN?
CAN HE WIN BACK THEIR TRUST?
AGAIN?
CAN HE WIN BACK THEIR TRUST?
GWEN: HOW DO YOU DO THAT, CAN HE WIN BACK THEIR TRUST?
GWEN: HOW DO YOU DO THAT, EXACTLY?
GWEN: HOW DO YOU DO THAT, EXACTLY?
>> IF HE'S JUST COMPETENT WILL EXACTLY?
>> IF HE'S JUST COMPETENT WILL THAT DO IT?
>> IF HE'S JUST COMPETENT WILL THAT DO IT?
>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN FULLY THAT DO IT?
>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN FULLY RECOVER FROM A BLOW LIKE THIS >> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN FULLY RECOVER FROM A BLOW LIKE THIS REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT IS THE RECOVER FROM A BLOW LIKE THIS REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT IS THE MOST WELL-KNOWN FIGURE IN THE REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT IS THE MOST WELL-KNOWN FIGURE IN THE COUNTRY SO IF PEOPLE REACH A MOST WELL-KNOWN FIGURE IN THE COUNTRY SO IF PEOPLE REACH A DECISION ABOUT HIS CREDIBILITY COUNTRY SO IF PEOPLE REACH A DECISION ABOUT HIS CREDIBILITY ON AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND FIND DECISION ABOUT HIS CREDIBILITY ON AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND FIND IT WANTING, THAT'S NOT A CASUAL ON AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND FIND IT WANTING, THAT'S NOT A CASUAL JUDGMENT.
IT WANTING, THAT'S NOT A CASUAL JUDGMENT.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND SO I JUDGMENT.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND SO I THINK IT'S HARD -- HE WON'T GET THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND SO I THINK IT'S HARD -- HE WON'T GET BACK TO THE LEVELS THAT HE WAS THINK IT'S HARD -- HE WON'T GET BACK TO THE LEVELS THAT HE WAS BUT I THINK THE BETTER OFF THE BACK TO THE LEVELS THAT HE WAS BUT I THINK THE BETTER OFF THE COUNTRY FEELS IT IS, THE LESS BUT I THINK THE BETTER OFF THE COUNTRY FEELS IT IS, THE LESS CONSEQUENTIAL THAT LOSS OF COUNTRY FEELS IT IS, THE LESS CONSEQUENTIAL THAT LOSS OF CONFIDENCE IN HIS CREDIBILITY CONSEQUENTIAL THAT LOSS OF CONFIDENCE IN HIS CREDIBILITY WILL BE.
CONFIDENCE IN HIS CREDIBILITY WILL BE.
>> OF COURSE, NO MATTER HOW BAD WILL BE.
>> OF COURSE, NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS GET FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, >> OF COURSE, NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS GET FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE THE THINGS GET FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE THE VOTERS AGAIN.
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE THE VOTERS AGAIN.
HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THE VOTERS AGAIN.
HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT, ESPECIALLY IN THE MID HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT, ESPECIALLY IN THE MID TERMS NEXT YEAR.
BALLOT, ESPECIALLY IN THE MID TERMS NEXT YEAR.
DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH TERMS NEXT YEAR.
DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH THIS DAMAGE IS ACCRUING TO THE DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH THIS DAMAGE IS ACCRUING TO THE DEMOCRATS?
THIS DAMAGE IS ACCRUING TO THE DEMOCRATS?
THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS, THE DEMOCRATS?
THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS, THE DEMOCRATIC BRAND?
THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS, THE DEMOCRATIC BRAND?
ALL THE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY IN DEMOCRATIC BRAND?
ALL THE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY IN RED STATES?
ALL THE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY IN RED STATES?
>> WE KNOWT'S IBAD FOR MEMBERS RED STATES?
>> WE KNOWT'S IBAD FOR MEMBERS OF THE PRESIDENT'S PARTY WHEN >> WE KNOWT'S IBAD FOR MEMBERS OF THE PRESIDENT'S PARTY WHEN HIS APPROVAL RATING IS LOWER OF THE PRESIDENT'S PARTY WHEN HIS APPROVAL RATING IS LOWER BUT WE'VE SEEN SOME GET HIS APPROVAL RATING IS LOWER BUT WE'VE SEEN SOME GET HAMMERED AT MIDTERM EVEN WITH BUT WE'VE SEEN SOME GET HAMMERED AT MIDTERM EVEN WITH HIGH APPROVAL RATINGS.
HAMMERED AT MIDTERM EVEN WITH HIGH APPROVAL RATINGS.
THE SMALL NUMBER OF COMPETITIVE HIGH APPROVAL RATINGS.
THE SMALL NUMBER OF COMPETITIVE SEATS IS GOOD.
THE SMALL NUMBER OF COMPETITIVE SEATS IS GOOD.
ONLY 6% --% IN THE ELECTION SEATS IS GOOD.
ONLY 6% --% IN THE ELECTION COMING UP THAT HAVE SPLIT THEIR ONLY 6% --% IN THE ELECTION COMING UP THAT HAVE SPLIT THEIR TICKETS IN PRESIDENTIAL AND COMING UP THAT HAVE SPLIT THEIR TICKETS IN PRESIDENTIAL AND HOUSE RACES RECENTLY.
TICKETS IN PRESIDENTIAL AND HOUSE RACES RECENTLY.
THE YOU KNOW SIDE IS LIMITED BY HOUSE RACES RECENTLY.
THE YOU KNOW SIDE IS LIMITED BY THAT FACT.
THE YOU KNOW SIDE IS LIMITED BY THAT FACT.
GWEN: WE MOVE TO SECRETARY OF THAT FACT.
GWEN: WE MOVE TO SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY WHO'S BEEN GWEN: WE MOVE TO SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY WHO'S BEEN BOUNCING TO AND FRO.
STATE JOHN KERRY WHO'S BEEN BOUNCING TO AND FRO.
HE STOPPED IN WASHINGTON LONG BOUNCING TO AND FRO.
HE STOPPED IN WASHINGTON LONG ENOUGH THIS WEEK TO WIN A SMALL HE STOPPED IN WASHINGTON LONG ENOUGH THIS WEEK TO WIN A SMALL CONCESSION FROM CONGRESS.
ENOUGH THIS WEEK TO WIN A SMALL CONCESSION FROM CONGRESS.
IT WILL NOT IMPOSE ADDITIONAL CONCESSION FROM CONGRESS.
IT WILL NOT IMPOSE ADDITIONAL SANCTIONS ON IRAN FOR NOW.
IT WILL NOT IMPOSE ADDITIONAL SANCTIONS ON IRAN FOR NOW.
THIS WAS THE SECRETARY'S SANCTIONS ON IRAN FOR NOW.
THIS WAS THE SECRETARY'S APPEAL.
THIS WAS THE SECRETARY'S APPEAL.
>> WE'RE ASKING TO YOU GIVE OUR APPEAL.
>> WE'RE ASKING TO YOU GIVE OUR NEGOTIATORS AND EXPERTS THE >> WE'RE ASKING TO YOU GIVE OUR NEGOTIATORS AND EXPERTS THE TIME AND THE SPACE TO DO THEIR NEGOTIATORS AND EXPERTS THE TIME AND THE SPACE TO DO THEIR JOBS AND THAT INCLUDES ASKING TIME AND THE SPACE TO DO THEIR JOBS AND THAT INCLUDES ASKING YOU, WHILE WE NEGOTIATE, THAT JOBS AND THAT INCLUDES ASKING YOU, WHILE WE NEGOTIATE, THAT YOU HOLD OFF IMPOSING NEW YOU, WHILE WE NEGOTIATE, THAT YOU HOLD OFF IMPOSING NEW SANCTIONS.
YOU HOLD OFF IMPOSING NEW SANCTIONS.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING NEVER.
SANCTIONS.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING NEVER.
I'M JUST SAYING NOT RIGHT NOW.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING NEVER.
I'M JUST SAYING NOT RIGHT NOW.
GWEN: BUT THAT IS JUST A I'M JUST SAYING NOT RIGHT NOW.
GWEN: BUT THAT IS JUST A PORTION OF THE MEAL ON KERRY'S GWEN: BUT THAT IS JUST A PORTION OF THE MEAL ON KERRY'S PLATE.
PORTION OF THE MEAL ON KERRY'S PLATE.
THERE ARE THE PEACE TALKS, THE PLATE.
THERE ARE THE PEACE TALKS, THE WAR IN SYRIA AND IT'S NOT THE THERE ARE THE PEACE TALKS, THE WAR IN SYRIA AND IT'S NOT THE SECOND TIME A PRESIDENT HAS WAR IN SYRIA AND IT'S NOT THE SECOND TIME A PRESIDENT HAS REFOCUSED ON FOREIGN POLICIES.
SECOND TIME A PRESIDENT HAS REFOCUSED ON FOREIGN POLICIES.
WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES?
REFOCUSED ON FOREIGN POLICIES.
WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES?
>> I THINK YOU KIND OF LISTED WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES?
>> I THINK YOU KIND OF LISTED ALL OF THEM.
>> I THINK YOU KIND OF LISTED ALL OF THEM.
IT'S HARD TO SAY THESE ARE ALL OF THEM.
IT'S HARD TO SAY THESE ARE PRIORITIES AND THESE AREN'T.
IT'S HARD TO SAY THESE ARE PRIORITIES AND THESE AREN'T.
AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE, PRIORITIES AND THESE AREN'T.
AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE, PRESIDENT OBAMA, SUSAN RICE AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE, PRESIDENT OBAMA, SUSAN RICE WANTS TO FOCUS ON ASIA.
PRESIDENT OBAMA, SUSAN RICE WANTS TO FOCUS ON ASIA.
IT'S THE ISSUE OF THE FUTURE.
WANTS TO FOCUS ON ASIA.
IT'S THE ISSUE OF THE FUTURE.
NOT THE OLD AND INSOLUBLE IT'S THE ISSUE OF THE FUTURE.
NOT THE OLD AND INSOLUBLE ISSUES IN THE MIDDLE EASTERN.
NOT THE OLD AND INSOLUBLE ISSUES IN THE MIDDLE EASTERN.
HOW CAN THE SECRETARY OF STATE ISSUES IN THE MIDDLE EASTERN.
HOW CAN THE SECRETARY OF STATE FIND AN AND YOU MAKE HIS OR HER HOW CAN THE SECRETARY OF STATE FIND AN AND YOU MAKE HIS OR HER OWN BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE FIND AN AND YOU MAKE HIS OR HER OWN BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE WANTS TO TAKE THE GOODS ONES?
OWN BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE WANTS TO TAKE THE GOODS ONES?
JOHN KERRY HAS TAKEN ALL THE WANTS TO TAKE THE GOODS ONES?
JOHN KERRY HAS TAKEN ALL THE BAD ISSUES.
JOHN KERRY HAS TAKEN ALL THE BAD ISSUES.
ALL THE INSOLUBLE TREBLE OLD BAD ISSUES.
ALL THE INSOLUBLE TREBLE OLD ONES, IRAN, ISRAEL-PALESTINIAN ALL THE INSOLUBLE TREBLE OLD ONES, IRAN, ISRAEL-PALESTINIAN NEGOTIATIONS.
ONES, IRAN, ISRAEL-PALESTINIAN NEGOTIATIONS.
THERE'S A NO-WIN SITUATION FOR NEGOTIATIONS.
THERE'S A NO-WIN SITUATION FOR A LONG TIME AND MAYBE WORST OF THERE'S A NO-WIN SITUATION FOR A LONG TIME AND MAYBE WORST OF ALL THE SYRIAN CIVIL WAR AND HE A LONG TIME AND MAYBE WORST OF ALL THE SYRIAN CIVIL WAR AND HE IS THROWING HIMSELF INTO THESE ALL THE SYRIAN CIVIL WAR AND HE IS THROWING HIMSELF INTO THESE THINGS.
IS THROWING HIMSELF INTO THESE THINGS.
AT THE END OF THIS WEEK HE MADE THINGS.
AT THE END OF THIS WEEK HE MADE HIS NINTH VISIT TO ISRAEL TO AT THE END OF THIS WEEK HE MADE HIS NINTH VISIT TO ISRAEL TO TRY AND GET THOSE PEACE HIS NINTH VISIT TO ISRAEL TO TRY AND GET THOSE PEACE NEGOTIATIONS ON TRACK AND HE'S TRY AND GET THOSE PEACE NEGOTIATIONS ON TRACK AND HE'S REALLY GOING TO TRY AND MAKE NEGOTIATIONS ON TRACK AND HE'S REALLY GOING TO TRY AND MAKE HIS MARK AND PART OF THE KEY REALLY GOING TO TRY AND MAKE HIS MARK AND PART OF THE KEY HERE IN THE KIND OF HIS MARK AND PART OF THE KEY HERE IN THE KIND OF BUREAUCRATIC POLITICS IS THE HERE IN THE KIND OF BUREAUCRATIC POLITICS IS THE WHITE HOUSE IS VERY HAPPY TO BUREAUCRATIC POLITICS IS THE WHITE HOUSE IS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE JOHN KERRY TAKING ON ALL WHITE HOUSE IS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE JOHN KERRY TAKING ON ALL THESE REALLY NASTY ISSUES.
HAVE JOHN KERRY TAKING ON ALL THESE REALLY NASTY ISSUES.
GWEN: WHERE IS THE WHITE HOUSE THESE REALLY NASTY ISSUES.
GWEN: WHERE IS THE WHITE HOUSE IN THIS?
GWEN: WHERE IS THE WHITE HOUSE IN THIS?
SAYING GO AHEAD, BOILED.
IN THIS?
SAYING GO AHEAD, BOILED.
CALL US IF YOU MAKE ANY SAYING GO AHEAD, BOILED.
CALL US IF YOU MAKE ANY PROGRESS?
CALL US IF YOU MAKE ANY PROGRESS?
>> EXACTLY.
PROGRESS?
>> EXACTLY.
THE PLAN IS ONE SKEELEDS IT >> EXACTLY.
THE PLAN IS ONE SKEELEDS IT WILL BE CALLED THE OBAMA PLAN THE PLAN IS ONE SKEELEDS IT WILL BE CALLED THE OBAMA PLAN AND IF IT FAILS, IT WILL BE WILL BE CALLED THE OBAMA PLAN AND IF IT FAILS, IT WILL BE DODD KERRY PLAN.
AND IF IT FAILS, IT WILL BE DODD KERRY PLAN.
>> IS IT FAIR FOR PEOPLE TO DODD KERRY PLAN.
>> IS IT FAIR FOR PEOPLE TO DRAW THE CONCLUSION, AS SOME >> IS IT FAIR FOR PEOPLE TO DRAW THE CONCLUSION, AS SOME HAVE, HILLARY CLINTON, DRAW THE CONCLUSION, AS SOME HAVE, HILLARY CLINTON, POLITICAL, PLAYING IT SAFE AS HAVE, HILLARY CLINTON, POLITICAL, PLAYING IT SAFE AS SECRETARY OF STATE.
POLITICAL, PLAYING IT SAFE AS SECRETARY OF STATE.
DIDN'T DO THAT MUCH.
SECRETARY OF STATE.
DIDN'T DO THAT MUCH.
JOHN KERRY BOLD, TAKING RISKS, DIDN'T DO THAT MUCH.
JOHN KERRY BOLD, TAKING RISKS, THE KIND OF SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY BOLD, TAKING RISKS, THE KIND OF SECRETARY OF STATE WHO GETS THINGS DONE.
THE KIND OF SECRETARY OF STATE WHO GETS THINGS DONE.
>> IT'S NOT ENTIRELY AFFAIR, WHO GETS THINGS DONE.
>> IT'S NOT ENTIRELY AFFAIR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE IRANIAN >> IT'S NOT ENTIRELY AFFAIR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR NEGOTIATIONS WEREN'T FOR EXAMPLE, THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR NEGOTIATIONS WEREN'T READY AND YOU NEEDED A NEW NUCLEAR NEGOTIATIONS WEREN'T READY AND YOU NEEDED A NEW PRESIDENT IN IRAN FOR THAT TO READY AND YOU NEEDED A NEW PRESIDENT IN IRAN FOR THAT TO GO FORWARD.
PRESIDENT IN IRAN FOR THAT TO GO FORWARD.
IT'S NOT ENTIRELY UNFAIR GO FORWARD.
IT'S NOT ENTIRELY UNFAIR EITHER.
IT'S NOT ENTIRELY UNFAIR EITHER.
INSIDE THE STATE DEPARTMENT, EITHER.
INSIDE THE STATE DEPARTMENT, HILLARY CLINTON WAS SEEN AS A INSIDE THE STATE DEPARTMENT, HILLARY CLINTON WAS SEEN AS A LITTLE BIT RISK AVERSE AND SHE HILLARY CLINTON WAS SEEN AS A LITTLE BIT RISK AVERSE AND SHE SUB CONTRACTED ISSUES TO OTHER LITTLE BIT RISK AVERSE AND SHE SUB CONTRACTED ISSUES TO OTHER PEOPLE.
SUB CONTRACTED ISSUES TO OTHER PEOPLE.
AFGHANISTAN WENT TO THE LATE PEOPLE.
AFGHANISTAN WENT TO THE LATE RICHARD HOLBROOKE.
AFGHANISTAN WENT TO THE LATE RICHARD HOLBROOKE.
THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT RICHARD HOLBROOKE.
THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT JOHN KERRY KNOWS THAT THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT JOHN KERRY KNOWS THAT THIS IS ALMOST CERTAINLY HIS LAST BIG JOHN KERRY KNOWS THAT THIS IS ALMOST CERTAINLY HIS LAST BIG JOB IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
ALMOST CERTAINLY HIS LAST BIG JOB IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
HE HIT HIS 70TH BIRTHDAY THIS JOB IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
HE HIT HIS 70TH BIRTHDAY THIS WEEK, INCIDENT LIP.
HE HIT HIS 70TH BIRTHDAY THIS WEEK, INCIDENT LIP.
SO IN A WAY HE HAS NOTHING TO WEEK, INCIDENT LIP.
SO IN A WAY HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE AND THIS NEXT THREE YEARS SO IN A WAY HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE AND THIS NEXT THREE YEARS IS HIS CHANCE TO MAKE HIS MARK LOSE AND THIS NEXT THREE YEARS IS HIS CHANCE TO MAKE HIS MARK AND HE SAYS IN SPEECHES HE'S IS HIS CHANCE TO MAKE HIS MARK AND HE SAYS IN SPEECHES HE'S WILLING TO GO OUT AND TAKE AND HE SAYS IN SPEECHES HE'S WILLING TO GO OUT AND TAKE RISKS.
WILLING TO GO OUT AND TAKE RISKS.
HE'S WILLING TO RISK GETTING RISKS.
HE'S WILLING TO RISK GETTING KNOCKED DOWN IF HE THINKS HE HE'S WILLING TO RISK GETTING KNOCKED DOWN IF HE THINKS HE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE AT GETTING KNOCKED DOWN IF HE THINKS HE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE AT GETTING SOMETHING DONE.
MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE AT GETTING SOMETHING DONE.
>> DOYLE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOMETHING DONE.
>> DOYLE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS STARTED, IT SEEMS MONTHS >> DOYLE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS STARTED, IT SEEMS MONTHS AGO WITH THE WAR IN SYRIA AND THIS STARTED, IT SEEMS MONTHS AGO WITH THE WAR IN SYRIA AND WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO AGO WITH THE WAR IN SYRIA AND WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO ENGAGE AND WHETHER WE WERE WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO ENGAGE AND WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO ATTACK THEM AND NOW ENGAGE AND WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO ATTACK THEM AND NOW YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THAT GOING TO ATTACK THEM AND NOW YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
WHAT -- AT ALL.
WHAT -- >> BUT YOU WILL AGAIN SOON WHAT -- >> BUT YOU WILL AGAIN SOON BECAUSE THAT SAME JOHN KERRY, >> BUT YOU WILL AGAIN SOON BECAUSE THAT SAME JOHN KERRY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HAS BEEN BECAUSE THAT SAME JOHN KERRY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HAS BEEN SPENDING MONTHS PUTTING BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HAS BEEN SPENDING MONTHS PUTTING TOGETHER A PEACE CONFERENCE IN SPENDING MONTHS PUTTING TOGETHER A PEACE CONFERENCE IN JEEVEPA IN JANUARY AND HE'S TOGETHER A PEACE CONFERENCE IN JEEVEPA IN JANUARY AND HE'S GOING TO TRY AND GET THE TWO JEEVEPA IN JANUARY AND HE'S GOING TO TRY AND GET THE TWO SIDES TOGETHER.
GOING TO TRY AND GET THE TWO SIDES TOGETHER.
NOW, DOES THIS THING HAVE A SIDES TOGETHER.
NOW, DOES THIS THING HAVE A CHANCE OF REALLY WORK SOMETHING NOW, DOES THIS THING HAVE A CHANCE OF REALLY WORK SOMETHING GWEN: EVERYBODY SAID THE U.S.
CHANCE OF REALLY WORK SOMETHING GWEN: EVERYBODY SAID THE U.S. DECIDED MAYBE IT WAS GOING TO GWEN: EVERYBODY SAID THE U.S. DECIDED MAYBE IT WAS GOING TO PULL OUT SUPPORT FOR THE DECIDED MAYBE IT WAS GOING TO PULL OUT SUPPORT FOR THE MODERATE FORCES?
PULL OUT SUPPORT FOR THE MODERATE FORCES?
>> THE MODERATE FORCES THE MODERATE FORCES?
>> THE MODERATE FORCES THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN >> THE MODERATE FORCES THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN SUPPORTING ARE IN DISARRAY?
UNITED STATES HAS BEEN SUPPORTING ARE IN DISARRAY?
NO.
SUPPORTING ARE IN DISARRAY?
NO.
THIS IS ALMOST THE AGAIN NO.
THIS IS ALMOST THE AGAIN TESSENS OF THE KERRY DOCTRINE.
THIS IS ALMOST THE AGAIN TESSENS OF THE KERRY DOCTRINE.
THIS ONE IS A COMPLETE LOSER.
TESSENS OF THE KERRY DOCTRINE.
THIS ONE IS A COMPLETE LOSER.
NOBODY THINKS IT'S GOING TO THIS ONE IS A COMPLETE LOSER.
NOBODY THINKS IT'S GOING TO SUCCEED AND HE'S GOING TO GO NOBODY THINKS IT'S GOING TO SUCCEED AND HE'S GOING TO GO AHEAD ANYWAY.
SUCCEED AND HE'S GOING TO GO AHEAD ANYWAY.
>> HE HAS THIS WHOLE LAUNDRY AHEAD ANYWAY.
>> HE HAS THIS WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST AND AS YOU SAID, HE'S NOT >> HE HAS THIS WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST AND AS YOU SAID, HE'S NOT DELEGATING A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
LIST AND AS YOU SAID, HE'S NOT DELEGATING A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
SIT POSSIBLE HE'S BITTEN OFF A DELEGATING A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
SIT POSSIBLE HE'S BITTEN OFF A LOT MORE THAN HEALTH CARE CHEW?
SIT POSSIBLE HE'S BITTEN OFF A LOT MORE THAN HEALTH CARE CHEW?
>> THAT'S THE CONCERN OF A LOT LOT MORE THAN HEALTH CARE CHEW?
>> THAT'S THE CONCERN OF A LOT OF PROFESSIONALS.
>> THAT'S THE CONCERN OF A LOT OF PROFESSIONALS.
EVEN THE GUY THAT IS HIS OWN OF PROFESSIONALS.
EVEN THE GUY THAT IS HIS OWN MIDDLE EAST NEGOTIATOR, MARTIN EVEN THE GUY THAT IS HIS OWN MIDDLE EAST NEGOTIATOR, MARTIN ENDICK.
MIDDLE EAST NEGOTIATOR, MARTIN ENDICK.
HE SAID TO PEOPLE HE'S PROBABLY ENDICK.
HE SAID TO PEOPLE HE'S PROBABLY BITTEN OFF MORE THAN HE CAN HE SAID TO PEOPLE HE'S PROBABLY BITTEN OFF MORE THAN HE CAN CHEW.
BITTEN OFF MORE THAN HE CAN CHEW.
GWEN: MARTIN WAS THERE WHEN IT CHEW.
GWEN: MARTIN WAS THERE WHEN IT ALL FELL APART BEFORE AND KNOWS GWEN: MARTIN WAS THERE WHEN IT ALL FELL APART BEFORE AND KNOWS OF WHICH HE SPEAKS.
ALL FELL APART BEFORE AND KNOWS OF WHICH HE SPEAKS.
>> I DID A COLUMN ON KERRY AND OF WHICH HE SPEAKS.
>> I DID A COLUMN ON KERRY AND I ASKED CLEARLY HE CAN'T SPEND >> I DID A COLUMN ON KERRY AND I ASKED CLEARLY HE CAN'T SPEND MUCH TIME ON ASIA, WHICH THE I ASKED CLEARLY HE CAN'T SPEND MUCH TIME ON ASIA, WHICH THE PRESIDENT IS REALLY INTERESTED MUCH TIME ON ASIA, WHICH THE PRESIDENT IS REALLY INTERESTED IN.
PRESIDENT IS REALLY INTERESTED IN.
THEY SAID NO, NO, HE'S IN ASIA IN.
THEY SAID NO, NO, HE'S IN ASIA THIS WEEK.
THEY SAID NO, NO, HE'S IN ASIA THIS WEEK.
HE'S IN VIETNAM RIGHT NOW.
THIS WEEK.
HE'S IN VIETNAM RIGHT NOW.
GWEN: AT THE LEAST HE'S GOING HE'S IN VIETNAM RIGHT NOW.
GWEN: AT THE LEAST HE'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH A GWEN: AT THE LEAST HE'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH A REPUTATION FOR JOHN KERRY.
TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH A REPUTATION FOR JOHN KERRY.
WE'LL BE WATCHING ALL OF THAT.
REPUTATION FOR JOHN KERRY.
WE'LL BE WATCHING ALL OF THAT.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
WE'LL BE WATCHING ALL OF THAT.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
THIS CONVERSATION HAS TO END THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
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GOOD NIGHT.