Rape On Campus; Defining Success; An American Bride In Kabul

11/01/2013 | 25m 40s | Video has closed captioning.

Rape on Campus; who's to blame? Defining Success; new survey reveals surprising results. Behind the Headlines; An American Bride in Kabul; Phyllis Chesler's autobiographical account of her escape from Afghanistan after marriage. PANELISTS: Avis Jones-DeWeever, Genevieve Wood, Francesca Chambers, Anushay Hossain

Aired: 11/01/13

Rating: NR

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Funding for TO THE CONTRARY is provided by the E. Rhodes and Leona B. Carpenter Foundation, the Park Foundation and the Charles A. Frueauff Foundation.

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>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE >> THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY... >> THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY... FIRST, ARE COLLEGES TO PLAME FOR CONTRARY... FIRST, ARE COLLEGES TO PLAME FOR CAMPUS RAPE?

FIRST, ARE COLLEGES TO PLAME FOR CAMPUS RAPE?

THEN, MEN DEFINE SUCCESS IN CAMPUS RAPE?

THEN, MEN DEFINE SUCCESS IN SURPRISING WAYS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES HOW A YOUNG SURPRISING WAYS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES HOW A YOUNG AMERICAN WOMAN WAS IMPRISONED BY BEHIND THE HEADLINES HOW A YOUNG AMERICAN WOMAN WAS IMPRISONED BY AN AFGHAN FAMILY.

AMERICAN WOMAN WAS IMPRISONED BY AN AFGHAN FAMILY.

HELLO I'M BONNIE ERBE WELCOME TO AN AFGHAN FAMILY.

HELLO I'M BONNIE ERBE WELCOME TO THE CONTRARY.

UP FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT ON THE CONTRARY.

UP FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT ON CAMPUS.

A NEW REPORT SAYS MOST COLLEGES CAMPUS.

A NEW REPORT SAYS MOST COLLEGES ARE DOING A POOR JOB OF STOPPING A NEW REPORT SAYS MOST COLLEGES ARE DOING A POOR JOB OF STOPPING SEXUAL ASSAULT OR HELPING ARE DOING A POOR JOB OF STOPPING SEXUAL ASSAULT OR HELPING VICTIMS.

SEXUAL ASSAULT OR HELPING VICTIMS.

THE STUDY RATED 300 COLLEGES VICTIMS.

THE STUDY RATED 300 COLLEGES ACROSS THE U.S.

USING A LETTER THE STUDY RATED 300 COLLEGES ACROSS THE U.S.

USING A LETTER GRADE SYSTEM.

ACROSS THE U.S.

USING A LETTER GRADE SYSTEM.

80% RECEIVED A C OR BELOW.

GRADE SYSTEM.

80% RECEIVED A C OR BELOW.

THE REPORT BY TWO WOMEN'S GROUPS 80% RECEIVED A C OR BELOW.

THE REPORT BY TWO WOMEN'S GROUPS SAYS ALMOST ONE-THIRD OF SEXUAL THE REPORT BY TWO WOMEN'S GROUPS SAYS ALMOST ONE-THIRD OF SEXUAL ASSAULT POLICIES DID NOT MEET SAYS ALMOST ONE-THIRD OF SEXUAL ASSAULT POLICIES DID NOT MEET FEDERAL STANDARDS.

ASSAULT POLICIES DID NOT MEET FEDERAL STANDARDS.

ONE COLLEGE IS ALREADY BEING FEDERAL STANDARDS.

ONE COLLEGE IS ALREADY BEING SUED FOR INEFFECTIVE ANTIRAPE ONE COLLEGE IS ALREADY BEING SUED FOR INEFFECTIVE ANTIRAPE POLICIES.

SUED FOR INEFFECTIVE ANTIRAPE POLICIES.

THE LAWSUIT CHARGES THE POLICIES.

THE LAWSUIT CHARGES THE UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT DID THE LAWSUIT CHARGES THE UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT DID NOT PROPERLY RESPOND TO SEXUAL UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT DID NOT PROPERLY RESPOND TO SEXUAL ASSAULT COMPLAINTS LODGED BY NOT PROPERLY RESPOND TO SEXUAL ASSAULT COMPLAINTS LODGED BY SEVEN WOMEN.

ASSAULT COMPLAINTS LODGED BY SEVEN WOMEN.

SEX CRIME PREVENTION REMAINS A SEVEN WOMEN.

SEX CRIME PREVENTION REMAINS A HOT TOPIC.

A RECENT BLOG POST CONTINUES TO HOT TOPIC.

A RECENT BLOG POST CONTINUES TO DRAW BOTH CRITICISM AND PRAISE A RECENT BLOG POST CONTINUES TO DRAW BOTH CRITICISM AND PRAISE FOR SAYING YOUNG WOMEN SHOULD BE DRAW BOTH CRITICISM AND PRAISE FOR SAYING YOUNG WOMEN SHOULD BE WARNED OF THE LINK BETWEEN BINGE FOR SAYING YOUNG WOMEN SHOULD BE WARNED OF THE LINK BETWEEN BINGE DRINKING AND RAPE.

WARNED OF THE LINK BETWEEN BINGE DRINKING AND RAPE.

SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IT'S DRINKING AND RAPE.

SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IT'S SENSIBLE ADVICE AND OTHERS SAY SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IT'S SENSIBLE ADVICE AND OTHERS SAY IT'S BLAMING THE VICTIM.

SENSIBLE ADVICE AND OTHERS SAY IT'S BLAMING THE VICTIM.

>> IS IT SEXIST JUST TO WARN IT'S BLAMING THE VICTIM.

>> IS IT SEXIST JUST TO WARN COLLEGE WOMEN AWAY FROM DRINKING >> IS IT SEXIST JUST TO WARN COLLEGE WOMEN AWAY FROM DRINKING TO TRY TO CUT THE NUMBER OF COLLEGE WOMEN AWAY FROM DRINKING TO TRY TO CUT THE NUMBER OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS?

TO TRY TO CUT THE NUMBER OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS?

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

SEXUAL ASSAULTS?

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

ANYTIME YOUR MESSAGE IS TO LOOK >> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

ANYTIME YOUR MESSAGE IS TO LOOK AT THE BEHAVIOR OF THE VICTIM ANYTIME YOUR MESSAGE IS TO LOOK AT THE BEHAVIOR OF THE VICTIM VERSUS THE PERPETRATOR IT'S NOT AT THE BEHAVIOR OF THE VICTIM VERSUS THE PERPETRATOR IT'S NOT ONLY SEXIST YOUR PROCESS IS NOT VERSUS THE PERPETRATOR IT'S NOT ONLY SEXIST YOUR PROCESS IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS IT CAN BE ONLY SEXIST YOUR PROCESS IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS IT CAN BE INTEREST AND I SAY THE SHORT AS EFFECTIVE AS IT CAN BE INTEREST AND I SAY THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

INTEREST AND I SAY THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH.

ANSWER IS NO.

BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH.

WOMEN DRINKING ARE MUCH MORE APT BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH.

WOMEN DRINKING ARE MUCH MORE APT TO BE A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT WOMEN DRINKING ARE MUCH MORE APT TO BE A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT ON CAMPUS.

TO BE A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT ON CAMPUS.

WITHHOLDING INFORMATION LIKE ON CAMPUS.

WITHHOLDING INFORMATION LIKE THAT IS NOT DOING THEM JUSTICE WITHHOLDING INFORMATION LIKE THAT IS NOT DOING THEM JUSTICE >> I AGREE WITH AVIS.

THAT IS NOT DOING THEM JUSTICE >> I AGREE WITH AVIS.

I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY SEXIST >> I AGREE WITH AVIS.

I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY SEXIST AND SHIFTING THE RESPONSIBILITY I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY SEXIST AND SHIFTING THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE VICTIM AND TAKING AWAY AND SHIFTING THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE VICTIM AND TAKING AWAY THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE ON THE VICTIM AND TAKING AWAY THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE RAPIST HAS TO NOT RAPE.

THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE RAPIST HAS TO NOT RAPE.

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

RAPIST HAS TO NOT RAPE.

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

LISTEN IF YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE >> THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

LISTEN IF YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE UNLOCKED ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE IF LISTEN IF YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE UNLOCKED ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE IF IT GETS ROBBED?

UNLOCKED ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE IF IT GETS ROBBED?

NO.

IT GETS ROBBED?

NO.

BUT DID YOU DO EVERYTHING YOU NO.

BUT DID YOU DO EVERYTHING YOU COULD TO PROTECT YOURSELF?

NO.

COULD TO PROTECT YOURSELF?

NO.

AND THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOK AT NO.

AND THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOK AT HERE AND THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOK AT HERE >> BUT VICE-PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HERE >> BUT VICE-PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SAYS THIS WEEK HIS ANATIONALGY >> BUT VICE-PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SAYS THIS WEEK HIS ANATIONALGY ANOLGY IS A GUY WALKS OUT OF A SAYS THIS WEEK HIS ANATIONALGY ANOLGY IS A GUY WALKS OUT OF A BAR DRUNK AND HE GETS MUGGED IS ANOLGY IS A GUY WALKS OUT OF A BAR DRUNK AND HE GETS MUGGED IS IT HIS FAULT?

BAR DRUNK AND HE GETS MUGGED IS IT HIS FAULT?

NO WHY SHOULD WOMEN BE AT FAULT IT HIS FAULT?

NO WHY SHOULD WOMEN BE AT FAULT IF THEY GET DRUNK AND GET RAPED NO WHY SHOULD WOMEN BE AT FAULT IF THEY GET DRUNK AND GET RAPED >> I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE AT IF THEY GET DRUNK AND GET RAPED >> I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE AT FAULT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

>> I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE AT FAULT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

BUT THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO FAULT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

BUT THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO IS TAKE MEASURES TO PREVENT THIS BUT THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO IS TAKE MEASURES TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING.

IS TAKE MEASURES TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING.

TAKE MYSPACE.COM AND BY THE WAY FROM HAPPENING.

TAKE MYSPACE.COM AND BY THE WAY THE BLUE LIGHTS ON COLLEGE TAKE MYSPACE.COM AND BY THE WAY THE BLUE LIGHTS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES ARE NOT HELPFUL I WOULD THE BLUE LIGHTS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES ARE NOT HELPFUL I WOULD NOT COUNT ON THAT A YOUNG CAMPUSES ARE NOT HELPFUL I WOULD NOT COUNT ON THAT A YOUNG COLLEGE WOMAN NOT COUNT ON THAT A YOUNG COLLEGE WOMAN >> AND THEY TELL YOU TO DO A COLLEGE WOMAN >> AND THEY TELL YOU TO DO A BUDDY SYSTEM AND YOU GET RAPED >> AND THEY TELL YOU TO DO A BUDDY SYSTEM AND YOU GET RAPED BY THE PERSON WALKING YOU HOME.

BUDDY SYSTEM AND YOU GET RAPED BY THE PERSON WALKING YOU HOME.

IT'S DISMISSSIVE OF THE FACT OF BY THE PERSON WALKING YOU HOME.

IT'S DISMISSSIVE OF THE FACT OF PARTNER VIOLENCE WHICH IS OFF IT'S DISMISSSIVE OF THE FACT OF PARTNER VIOLENCE WHICH IS OFF THE CHART AS WELL.

PARTNER VIOLENCE WHICH IS OFF THE CHART AS WELL.

WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THE CHART AS WELL.

WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY MEN ARE RAPING AND WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY MEN ARE RAPING AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE WOMEN ARE ABOUT WHY MEN ARE RAPING AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE WOMEN ARE DRINKING.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE WOMEN ARE DRINKING.

>> WHY IS THAT?

DRINKING.

>> WHY IS THAT?

>> I THINK THAT THEY FEEL THEY >> WHY IS THAT?

>> I THINK THAT THEY FEEL THEY CAN GETAWAY WITH IT.

AND WHAT IS SAD IS 2013 AND THEY CAN GETAWAY WITH IT.

AND WHAT IS SAD IS 2013 AND THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THE STATISTICS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THE STATISTICS ARE SO SHOCKING AND I CANNOT I CANNOT BELIEVE THE STATISTICS ARE SO SHOCKING AND I CANNOT BELIEVE WE ARE STILL VICTIM ARE SO SHOCKING AND I CANNOT BELIEVE WE ARE STILL VICTIM BLAMING.

BELIEVE WE ARE STILL VICTIM BLAMING.

PEOPLE'S RESPONSES TO THE BLAMING.

PEOPLE'S RESPONSES TO THE STATISTICS SHOW HOW ALIVE AND PEOPLE'S RESPONSES TO THE STATISTICS SHOW HOW ALIVE AND WELL THE VICTIM BLAMING STATISTICS SHOW HOW ALIVE AND WELL THE VICTIM BLAMING >> AND THE DRINKING HAS WELL THE VICTIM BLAMING >> AND THE DRINKING HAS INCREASED.

>> AND THE DRINKING HAS INCREASED.

ANY PARENT SENDING A CHILD TO INCREASED.

ANY PARENT SENDING A CHILD TO COLLEGE NOT ONLY LISTEN THE TOUR ANY PARENT SENDING A CHILD TO COLLEGE NOT ONLY LISTEN THE TOUR GUIDE AND TALKS THE WONDERFUL COLLEGE NOT ONLY LISTEN THE TOUR GUIDE AND TALKS THE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT THE CAMPUS THEY GUIDE AND TALKS THE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT THE CAMPUS THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CRIME THINGS ABOUT THE CAMPUS THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CRIME STATISTICS WHICH ARE NO MATTER SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CRIME STATISTICS WHICH ARE NO MATTER COLLEGE YOU PICK THEY ALREADY STATISTICS WHICH ARE NO MATTER COLLEGE YOU PICK THEY ALREADY HIGHER THAN YOU EXPECT.

COLLEGE YOU PICK THEY ALREADY HIGHER THAN YOU EXPECT.

AND FIND AND MAKING SURE THAT HIGHER THAN YOU EXPECT.

AND FIND AND MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER SCHOOLS YOUR CHILD AND FIND AND MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER SCHOOLS YOUR CHILD PICKS THEY KNOW THAT AND TAKE WHATEVER SCHOOLS YOUR CHILD PICKS THEY KNOW THAT AND TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION TO MAKE SURE PICKS THEY KNOW THAT AND TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT A VICTIM.

EVERY PRECAUTION TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT A VICTIM.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THE VICTIM IS AT THEY ARE NOT A VICTIM.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THE VICTIM IS AT FAULT.

BUT LOOK THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE FAULT.

BUT LOOK THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE OUT THERE.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO BAD OUT THERE.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO BAD THINGS.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S RAPE AND YOU THINGS.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S RAPE AND YOU SHOULD BE DOING WHATEVER YOU CAN AND SOMETIMES IT'S RAPE AND YOU SHOULD BE DOING WHATEVER YOU CAN TO ARM SOMEBODY SHOULD BE DOING WHATEVER YOU CAN TO ARM SOMEBODY >> IS IT THE COLLEGE'S BURDEN TO TO ARM SOMEBODY >> IS IT THE COLLEGE'S BURDEN TO I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO COLLEGE >> IS IT THE COLLEGE'S BURDEN TO I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO COLLEGE PRESUMABLY YOU ARE 18 OF AGE, IS I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO COLLEGE PRESUMABLY YOU ARE 18 OF AGE, IS IT THE COLLEGE'S JOB TO PROTECT PRESUMABLY YOU ARE 18 OF AGE, IS IT THE COLLEGE'S JOB TO PROTECT YOU FROM RAPE?

IT THE COLLEGE'S JOB TO PROTECT YOU FROM RAPE?

MORE THAN THEY ARE DOING SO NOW?

YOU FROM RAPE?

MORE THAN THEY ARE DOING SO NOW?

ACCORDING TO THE REPORT IS NOT MORE THAN THEY ARE DOING SO NOW?

ACCORDING TO THE REPORT IS NOT VERY MUCH ACCORDING TO THE REPORT IS NOT VERY MUCH >> I THINK COLLEGES SHOULD BE VERY MUCH >> I THINK COLLEGES SHOULD BE DOING MORE.

>> I THINK COLLEGES SHOULD BE DOING MORE.

18 IS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK DOING MORE.

18 IS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY.

IF YOU ARE NOT ENFORCING THOSE ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY.

IF YOU ARE NOT ENFORCING THOSE LAWS THAT IS ONE THING.

AGE FOR CONSENSUAL SEX.

LAWS THAT IS ONE THING.

AGE FOR CONSENSUAL SEX.

>> COLLEGES HAVE A HUGE AGE FOR CONSENSUAL SEX.

>> COLLEGES HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY WHEN I WAS IN >> COLLEGES HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE JUST THE OTHER DAY, A RESPONSIBILITY WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE JUST THE OTHER DAY, A FEW YEARS AGO, CHEATING WAS A COLLEGE JUST THE OTHER DAY, A FEW YEARS AGO, CHEATING WAS A BIG DEAL.

FEW YEARS AGO, CHEATING WAS A BIG DEAL.

WE KNEW IF WE CHEATED WE WOULD BIG DEAL.

WE KNEW IF WE CHEATED WE WOULD BE KICKED OUT.

I FEEL LIKE MEN ARE GETTING BE KICKED OUT.

I FEEL LIKE MEN ARE GETTING MESSAGE UNIVERSITIES DON'T WANT I FEEL LIKE MEN ARE GETTING MESSAGE UNIVERSITIES DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU DEAL WITH T THEY MESSAGE UNIVERSITIES DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU DEAL WITH T THEY WANT TO COVER IT UP BECAUSE IT'S TO HELP YOU DEAL WITH T THEY WANT TO COVER IT UP BECAUSE IT'S BAD PRESS.

WANT TO COVER IT UP BECAUSE IT'S BAD PRESS.

A C AVERAGE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BAD PRESS.

A C AVERAGE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE >> AND WHY NOT FOCUS ON MEN, A C AVERAGE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE >> AND WHY NOT FOCUS ON MEN, EDUCATING MEN ABOUT WHAT THEY >> AND WHY NOT FOCUS ON MEN, EDUCATING MEN ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO?

EDUCATING MEN ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO?

MEN NEED TO YOU HAD WHAT YOU ARE NEED TO DO?

MEN NEED TO YOU HAD WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS NOT HEAR NO.

WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND IS LOOKING FOR IS NOT HEAR NO.

WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND IS S AN AFFIRMATIVE YES.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO GET S AN AFFIRMATIVE YES.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO GET AN AFFIRMATIVE YES, WHAT YOU ARE AND IF YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO GET AN AFFIRMATIVE YES, WHAT YOU ARE DOING MAY NOT BE CONSENSUAL.

AN AFFIRMATIVE YES, WHAT YOU ARE DOING MAY NOT BE CONSENSUAL.

AND WHEN YOU SEE A BUDDY OF DOING MAY NOT BE CONSENSUAL.

AND WHEN YOU SEE A BUDDY OF YOURS DOING WHAT HE SHOULD NOT AND WHEN YOU SEE A BUDDY OF YOURS DOING WHAT HE SHOULD NOT BE DOING.

YOURS DOING WHAT HE SHOULD NOT BE DOING.

WE NEED TO ARM PEOPLE WITH BE DOING.

WE NEED TO ARM PEOPLE WITH INFORMATION.

>> AND I THINK EVERYBODY AROUND INFORMATION.

>> AND I THINK EVERYBODY AROUND THIS TABLE WOULD AGREE ON THAT.

BUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH ADDING THIS TABLE WOULD AGREE ON THAT.

BUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH ADDING THE PART ABOUT WARNING COLLEGE BUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH ADDING THE PART ABOUT WARNING COLLEGE WOMEN OF THIS STATISTICS THAT THE PART ABOUT WARNING COLLEGE WOMEN OF THIS STATISTICS THAT SHOW A LINK BETWEEN DRINKING AND WOMEN OF THIS STATISTICS THAT SHOW A LINK BETWEEN DRINKING AND SEXUAL ASSAULT SHOW A LINK BETWEEN DRINKING AND SEXUAL ASSAULT >> WHAT I THINK IS THAT YOU CAN SEXUAL ASSAULT >> WHAT I THINK IS THAT YOU CAN WARN BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ABOUT >> WHAT I THINK IS THAT YOU CAN WARN BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ABOUT IT: THE STATISTICS SAY 80% OF WARN BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ABOUT IT: THE STATISTICS SAY 80% OF MEN AND WOMEN WERE INVOLVED IN IT: THE STATISTICS SAY 80% OF MEN AND WOMEN WERE INVOLVED IN SEXUAL ASSAULT HAD BEEN MEN AND WOMEN WERE INVOLVED IN SEXUAL ASSAULT HAD BEEN DRINKING.

SEXUAL ASSAULT HAD BEEN DRINKING.

TELL BOTH.

DRINKING.

TELL BOTH.

MEN AND WOMEN HEY WHEN RUIN TELL BOTH.

MEN AND WOMEN HEY WHEN RUIN EASTBOUND RATED YOUR DECISION MEN AND WOMEN HEY WHEN RUIN EASTBOUND RATED YOUR DECISION PROCESSING SKILLS ARE NOT THE EASTBOUND RATED YOUR DECISION PROCESSING SKILLS ARE NOT THE BEST AND FOR WOMEN YOU BECOME PROCESSING SKILLS ARE NOT THE BEST AND FOR WOMEN YOU BECOME PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PROTECT BEST AND FOR WOMEN YOU BECOME PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PROTECT YOURSELF AT A GREATER DEGREE.

PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PROTECT YOURSELF AT A GREATER DEGREE.

>> WELCOME TO THE PANEL, BY THE YOURSELF AT A GREATER DEGREE.

>> WELCOME TO THE PANEL, BY THE WAY.

WHAT ELSE SHOULD COLLEGES BE WAY.

WHAT ELSE SHOULD COLLEGES BE DOING TO PROTECT WOMEN THAT THEY WHAT ELSE SHOULD COLLEGES BE DOING TO PROTECT WOMEN THAT THEY ARE NOT DOING?

DOING TO PROTECT WOMEN THAT THEY ARE NOT DOING?

DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE ARMED ARE NOT DOING?

DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE ARMED GUARDS AT EVERY -- IN FRONT OF DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE ARMED GUARDS AT EVERY -- IN FRONT OF EVERY DORM ROOM?

GUARDS AT EVERY -- IN FRONT OF EVERY DORM ROOM?

>> THEY HAVE TO BE PROSECUTING EVERY DORM ROOM?

>> THEY HAVE TO BE PROSECUTING THESE PERPETRATORS ACCURATELY.

AND IT'S ALMOST CON DES SENDING THESE PERPETRATORS ACCURATELY.

AND IT'S ALMOST CON DES SENDING TO HAVE THIS APPROACH TOWARDS AND IT'S ALMOST CON DES SENDING TO HAVE THIS APPROACH TOWARDS WOMEN.

TO HAVE THIS APPROACH TOWARDS WOMEN.

IF YOU GET DRUNK YOU MIGHT GET WOMEN.

IF YOU GET DRUNK YOU MIGHT GET RAPED.

IF I GET DRUNK A LOT OF THINGS RAPED.

IF I GET DRUNK A LOT OF THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN BUT THAT IS NOT MY IF I GET DRUNK A LOT OF THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN BUT THAT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR GETTING MIGHT HAPPEN BUT THAT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR GETTING RAPED.

RESPONSIBILITY FOR GETTING RAPED.

>> OF WOMEN WHO ARE RAPED 72% OF RAPED.

>> OF WOMEN WHO ARE RAPED 72% OF THEM ADMITTEDLY SAY THEY WERE >> OF WOMEN WHO ARE RAPED 72% OF THEM ADMITTEDLY SAY THEY WERE INTOXICATED WHEN IT HAPPENED.

THEM ADMITTEDLY SAY THEY WERE INTOXICATED WHEN IT HAPPENED.

SO I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK INTOXICATED WHEN IT HAPPENED.

SO I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LINK -- SO I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LINK -- >> IF YOU DRINK YOU SHOULD AT THE LINK -- >> IF YOU DRINK YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO BE RAPED?

>> IF YOU DRINK YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO BE RAPED?

>> NO, BUT YOU SHOULD BE WARNED EXPECT TO BE RAPED?

>> NO, BUT YOU SHOULD BE WARNED IF YOU ARE GETTING VERY, VERY >> NO, BUT YOU SHOULD BE WARNED IF YOU ARE GETTING VERY, VERY DRUNK, YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED IF YOU ARE GETTING VERY, VERY DRUNK, YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE WALKING HOME DRUNK, YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE WALKING HOME ALONE GETTING MUGGED OR RAPED ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE WALKING HOME ALONE GETTING MUGGED OR RAPED OR -- ALONE GETTING MUGGED OR RAPED OR -- >> GETTING HIT BY A CAR OR -- >> GETTING HIT BY A CAR >> EXACTLY.

>> GETTING HIT BY A CAR >> EXACTLY.

>> AND ARE WE GIVING THEM A >> EXACTLY.

>> AND ARE WE GIVING THEM A MESSAGE?

>> THERE OUGHT TO BE ZERO MESSAGE?

>> THERE OUGHT TO BE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THIS ON ANY >> THERE OUGHT TO BE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THIS ON ANY COLLEGE IN SOCIETY.

TOLERANCE FOR THIS ON ANY COLLEGE IN SOCIETY.

THERE OUGHT TO BE ZERO TOLERANCE COLLEGE IN SOCIETY.

THERE OUGHT TO BE ZERO TOLERANCE BUT THERE WAS A COYERSENING OF THERE OUGHT TO BE ZERO TOLERANCE BUT THERE WAS A COYERSENING OF OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND A BUT THERE WAS A COYERSENING OF OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND A COURSENING OF THE CULTURE.

OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND A COURSENING OF THE CULTURE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SAD BUT I DO COURSENING OF THE CULTURE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SAD BUT I DO NOT FIND IT OVALLY SURPRISING WE I DON'T THINK IT'S SAD BUT I DO NOT FIND IT OVALLY SURPRISING WE ARE SEEING THE NUMBERS.

NOT FIND IT OVALLY SURPRISING WE ARE SEEING THE NUMBERS.

>> AND WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT ARE SEEING THE NUMBERS.

>> AND WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND AUTHORITIES >> AND WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND AUTHORITIES CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE, I COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND AUTHORITIES CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE, I SHOULD NOT THINK --.

CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE, I SHOULD NOT THINK --.

CAMPUSES HAVE BECOME SOME OF THE SHOULD NOT THINK --.

CAMPUSES HAVE BECOME SOME OF THE MOST VALUELESS PLACES IN CAMPUSES HAVE BECOME SOME OF THE MOST VALUELESS PLACES IN SOCIETY.

MOST VALUELESS PLACES IN SOCIETY.

THEY TEACH ANYTHING GOES AND SOCIETY.

THEY TEACH ANYTHING GOES AND EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND WHATEVER THEY TEACH ANYTHING GOES AND EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO BE IT.

EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO BE IT.

THEY TEACH FEW VALUES.

YOU WANT TO DO BE IT.

THEY TEACH FEW VALUES.

AND I THINK YOU ARE SEEING WHAT THEY TEACH FEW VALUES.

AND I THINK YOU ARE SEEING WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY SPRINGS FROM AND I THINK YOU ARE SEEING WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY SPRINGS FROM THAT.

KIND OF SOCIETY SPRINGS FROM THAT.

>> BEYOND THE VALUES THERE ARE THAT.

>> BEYOND THE VALUES THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE MEN CAN STOP >> BEYOND THE VALUES THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE MEN CAN STOP RAPE AND A CALL TO MEN THAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE MEN CAN STOP RAPE AND A CALL TO MEN THAT FOCUS ON EDUCATING MEN AROUND RAPE AND A CALL TO MEN THAT FOCUS ON EDUCATING MEN AROUND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE FOCUS ON EDUCATING MEN AROUND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS MEN TO NOT PERPETRATE WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS MEN TO NOT PERPETRATE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

AS MEN TO NOT PERPETRATE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE FOCUS.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE FOCUS.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER OR AT TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER OR AT TO THE CONTRARY.

FROM COLLEGE SAFETY TO DEFINING THE CONTRARY.

FROM COLLEGE SAFETY TO DEFINING SUCCESS.

CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, MEN SUCCESS.

CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, MEN ARE MORE LIKELY THAN WOMEN TO CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, MEN ARE MORE LIKELY THAN WOMEN TO DEFINE HAVING A LOVING MARRIAGE ARE MORE LIKELY THAN WOMEN TO DEFINE HAVING A LOVING MARRIAGE AND RAISING CHILDREN AS AN DEFINE HAVING A LOVING MARRIAGE AND RAISING CHILDREN AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF HAVING IT ALL.

AND RAISING CHILDREN AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF HAVING IT ALL.

THAT ACCORDING TO A STUDY INTEGRAL PART OF HAVING IT ALL.

THAT ACCORDING TO A STUDY RELEASED THIS WEEK SURVEYING THAT ACCORDING TO A STUDY RELEASED THIS WEEK SURVEYING PROFESSIONAL MEN AND WOMEN ABOUT RELEASED THIS WEEK SURVEYING PROFESSIONAL MEN AND WOMEN ABOUT HOW THEY APPROACH AND VIEW PROFESSIONAL MEN AND WOMEN ABOUT HOW THEY APPROACH AND VIEW SUCCESS.

HOW THEY APPROACH AND VIEW SUCCESS.

ALMOST 80% OF MEN BUT ONLY 66% SUCCESS.

ALMOST 80% OF MEN BUT ONLY 66% OF WOMEN EQUATE HAVING IT ALL ALMOST 80% OF MEN BUT ONLY 66% OF WOMEN EQUATE HAVING IT ALL WITH BEING IN A STRONG, LOVING OF WOMEN EQUATE HAVING IT ALL WITH BEING IN A STRONG, LOVING MARRIAGE.

WITH BEING IN A STRONG, LOVING MARRIAGE.

A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF MEN MARRIAGE.

A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF MEN INCLUDE HAVING CHILDREN IN THEIR A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF MEN INCLUDE HAVING CHILDREN IN THEIR DEFINITION OF SUCCESS AND THE INCLUDE HAVING CHILDREN IN THEIR DEFINITION OF SUCCESS AND THE STUDY FOUND MEN NOW VALUE DEFINITION OF SUCCESS AND THE STUDY FOUND MEN NOW VALUE WORK-LIFE BALANCE AS MUCH AS STUDY FOUND MEN NOW VALUE WORK-LIFE BALANCE AS MUCH AS WOMEN.

WORK-LIFE BALANCE AS MUCH AS WOMEN.

>> AS EMPLOYERS AND INSTITUTIONS WOMEN.

>> AS EMPLOYERS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE THINKING ABOUT THEIR >> AS EMPLOYERS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE THINKING ABOUT THEIR POLICIES NOT TO JUST THINK OF ARE THINKING ABOUT THEIR POLICIES NOT TO JUST THINK OF THEM IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS AND POLICIES NOT TO JUST THINK OF THEM IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS AND THAT EVERYONE DEALING WITH YOUR THEM IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS AND THAT EVERYONE DEALING WITH YOUR CHILDREN OR DEALING WITH YOUR THAT EVERYONE DEALING WITH YOUR CHILDREN OR DEALING WITH YOUR AGING PARENT THERE IS A VERY CHILDREN OR DEALING WITH YOUR AGING PARENT THERE IS A VERY LARGE POPULATION OUT THERE AGING PARENT THERE IS A VERY LARGE POPULATION OUT THERE LOOKING FOR FLEXIBILITY.

LARGE POPULATION OUT THERE LOOKING FOR FLEXIBILITY.

ASK THEM ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF LOOKING FOR FLEXIBILITY.

ASK THEM ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PARENTAL LEAVE POLICIES, AS A ASK THEM ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PARENTAL LEAVE POLICIES, AS A CORPORATE PERK, 50% OF WOMEN PARENTAL LEAVE POLICIES, AS A CORPORATE PERK, 50% OF WOMEN RATED IT AS IMPORTANT BUT ONLY CORPORATE PERK, 50% OF WOMEN RATED IT AS IMPORTANT BUT ONLY 36% OF MEN.

RATED IT AS IMPORTANT BUT ONLY 36% OF MEN.

THAT IS A 20-POINT DIFFERENCE 36% OF MEN.

THAT IS A 20-POINT DIFFERENCE PERHAPS FEWER MEN DO NOT EXPECT THAT IS A 20-POINT DIFFERENCE PERHAPS FEWER MEN DO NOT EXPECT THAT THEIR PLOYER IS GOING TO PERHAPS FEWER MEN DO NOT EXPECT THAT THEIR PLOYER IS GOING TO DELIVER ALL THE BENEFITS.

THAT THEIR PLOYER IS GOING TO DELIVER ALL THE BENEFITS.

THE STUDY ALSO FOUND THAT WOMEN DELIVER ALL THE BENEFITS.

THE STUDY ALSO FOUND THAT WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO EXPECT THEY THE STUDY ALSO FOUND THAT WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO EXPECT THEY WILL MAKE A NUMBER OF CAREER AND ARE MORE LIKELY TO EXPECT THEY WILL MAKE A NUMBER OF CAREER AND JOB TRANSITIONS ON THEIR WILL MAKE A NUMBER OF CAREER AND JOB TRANSITIONS ON THEIR PROFESSIONAL PATHS: IT SOUNDS A JOB TRANSITIONS ON THEIR PROFESSIONAL PATHS: IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE STUDY FOUND PROFESSIONAL PATHS: IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE STUDY FOUND THAT ROLES ARE REVERSING WHERE LITTLE BIT LIKE THE STUDY FOUND THAT ROLES ARE REVERSING WHERE MEN ARE EXPECTING MARRIAGE AND THAT ROLES ARE REVERSING WHERE MEN ARE EXPECTING MARRIAGE AND FAMILY AS PART OF THE SUCCESS MEN ARE EXPECTING MARRIAGE AND FAMILY AS PART OF THE SUCCESS PACKAGE.

FAMILY AS PART OF THE SUCCESS PACKAGE.

MORE OF THEM, MANY MORE OF THEM.

PACKAGE.

MORE OF THEM, MANY MORE OF THEM.

AND WOMEN ARE SAYING, GEEZ, IF I MORE OF THEM, MANY MORE OF THEM.

AND WOMEN ARE SAYING, GEEZ, IF I WANT TO GET AHEAD, IT MEANS NO AND WOMEN ARE SAYING, GEEZ, IF I WANT TO GET AHEAD, IT MEANS NO MARRIAGE NO FAMILY.

WANT TO GET AHEAD, IT MEANS NO MARRIAGE NO FAMILY.

>> WELL, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN A MARRIAGE NO FAMILY.

>> WELL, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN A LOT OF STUDIES DONE HOW MEN FEEL >> WELL, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN A LOT OF STUDIES DONE HOW MEN FEEL ABOUT THESE THINGS.

LOT OF STUDIES DONE HOW MEN FEEL ABOUT THESE THINGS.

SO IT'S HARD TO COMPARE TO HOW ABOUT THESE THINGS.

SO IT'S HARD TO COMPARE TO HOW MEN FELT BEFORE VERSUS HOW THEY SO IT'S HARD TO COMPARE TO HOW MEN FELT BEFORE VERSUS HOW THEY FEEL NOW.

MEN FELT BEFORE VERSUS HOW THEY FEEL NOW.

AS FAR AS HOW WOMEN FEEL, NOW I FEEL NOW.

AS FAR AS HOW WOMEN FEEL, NOW I THINK THAT THIS IS A RESULT OF AS FAR AS HOW WOMEN FEEL, NOW I THINK THAT THIS IS A RESULT OF SOCIETY SAYING THINGS LIKE LEAD THINK THAT THIS IS A RESULT OF SOCIETY SAYING THINGS LIKE LEAD IN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT SOCIETY SAYING THINGS LIKE LEAD IN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT CHERYL SAYING GIRL POWER MORE IN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT CHERYL SAYING GIRL POWER MORE POWER TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO HAVE CHERYL SAYING GIRL POWER MORE POWER TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CAREER AND YOU DON'T WANT TO POWER TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CAREER AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE FAMILY A CAREER AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE FAMILY >> SHE HAS BOTH.

HAVE FAMILY >> SHE HAS BOTH.

I'M NOT COMPARING HER TO THE >> SHE HAS BOTH.

I'M NOT COMPARING HER TO THE AVERAGE WOMAN.

SHE IS MULTIGAZILLION AIR.

AVERAGE WOMAN.

SHE IS MULTIGAZILLION AIR.

BUT PART OF HER MESSAGE IS SHE IS MULTIGAZILLION AIR.

BUT PART OF HER MESSAGE IS DON'T HAVE KIDS IT'S HAVE KIDS BUT PART OF HER MESSAGE IS DON'T HAVE KIDS IT'S HAVE KIDS AND PARTICIPATE MORE AT WORK DON'T HAVE KIDS IT'S HAVE KIDS AND PARTICIPATE MORE AT WORK >> SURE.

AND PARTICIPATE MORE AT WORK >> SURE.

BUT IT CAN BE DIFFICULT AS A >> SURE.

BUT IT CAN BE DIFFICULT AS A WOMAN TO DO THAT.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET PREGNANT WOMAN TO DO THAT.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET PREGNANT AND HAVE A CHILD YOU HAVE TO IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET PREGNANT AND HAVE A CHILD YOU HAVE TO TAKE OFF WORK TO DO THAT AND AND HAVE A CHILD YOU HAVE TO TAKE OFF WORK TO DO THAT AND THEN MOVING FORWARD IT BECOMES TAKE OFF WORK TO DO THAT AND THEN MOVING FORWARD IT BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THEN MOVING FORWARD IT BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BABY AND I MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BABY AND I KNOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THIS I TO TAKE CARE OF THE BABY AND I KNOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THIS I DON'T HAVE KIDS BUT IT DOES KNOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THIS I DON'T HAVE KIDS BUT IT DOES BECOME IT IS A DIFFICULTY FOR DON'T HAVE KIDS BUT IT DOES BECOME IT IS A DIFFICULTY FOR WOMEN IN THEIR CAREERS IF YOU BECOME IT IS A DIFFICULTY FOR WOMEN IN THEIR CAREERS IF YOU HAVE KIDS IT IS A FACT.

WOMEN IN THEIR CAREERS IF YOU HAVE KIDS IT IS A FACT.

>> I THINK I WAS SURPRISED BY HAVE KIDS IT IS A FACT.

>> I THINK I WAS SURPRISED BY THE FINDINGS AND THOUGHT THEY >> I THINK I WAS SURPRISED BY THE FINDINGS AND THOUGHT THEY WERE FANTASTIC.

THE FINDINGS AND THOUGHT THEY WERE FANTASTIC.

I THOUGHT IT WAS REFLECTIVE OF WERE FANTASTIC.

I THOUGHT IT WAS REFLECTIVE OF THE FACT THAT MEN ARE MORE I THOUGHT IT WAS REFLECTIVE OF THE FACT THAT MEN ARE MORE INVOLVED AND INVESTED IN THEIR THE FACT THAT MEN ARE MORE INVOLVED AND INVESTED IN THEIR FAMILIES AND THE CARE TAKING INVOLVED AND INVESTED IN THEIR FAMILIES AND THE CARE TAKING ROLES THAT WERE THE ONLY OPTION FAMILIES AND THE CARE TAKING ROLES THAT WERE THE ONLY OPTION WOMEN HAD FOR CENTURIES.

ROLES THAT WERE THE ONLY OPTION WOMEN HAD FOR CENTURIES.

BUT IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE FACT WOMEN HAD FOR CENTURIES.

BUT IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE FACT THAT TODAY IN AMERICA MORE WOMEN BUT IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE FACT THAT TODAY IN AMERICA MORE WOMEN ARE THE PRIMARY BREAD WINNERS IN THAT TODAY IN AMERICA MORE WOMEN ARE THE PRIMARY BREAD WINNERS IN THEIR FAMILIES.

ARE THE PRIMARY BREAD WINNERS IN THEIR FAMILIES.

SO IT'S GREAT.

THEIR FAMILIES.

SO IT'S GREAT.

WORK-LIFE BALANCE I THINK THERE SO IT'S GREAT.

WORK-LIFE BALANCE I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE FLEX HOURS AND WORK-LIFE BALANCE I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE FLEX HOURS AND SUCH TO ACCOMMODATE WORKING SHOULD BE MORE FLEX HOURS AND SUCH TO ACCOMMODATE WORKING MOTHERS THAT IS A DIFFERENT SUCH TO ACCOMMODATE WORKING MOTHERS THAT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE MOTHERS THAT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE >> NOT ONLY TO ACCOMMODATE ISSUE >> NOT ONLY TO ACCOMMODATE WORKING MOTHERS BUT WORKING >> NOT ONLY TO ACCOMMODATE WORKING MOTHERS BUT WORKING FATHERS.

WORKING MOTHERS BUT WORKING FATHERS.

THAT IS THE BIG TAKE AWAY.

FATHERS.

THAT IS THE BIG TAKE AWAY.

MEN WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IS THE BIG TAKE AWAY.

MEN WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO SPEND TIME WITH THEIR MEN WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO SPEND TIME WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

TO SPEND TIME WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

AND WOMEN ARE NOT JUST SAYING WE CHILDREN.

AND WOMEN ARE NOT JUST SAYING WE ARE REJECTING THE IDEA OF AND WOMEN ARE NOT JUST SAYING WE ARE REJECTING THE IDEA OF MARRIAGE PER SE, THEY ARE SAYING ARE REJECTING THE IDEA OF MARRIAGE PER SE, THEY ARE SAYING REALLY IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO MARRIAGE PER SE, THEY ARE SAYING REALLY IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS KIND AND REALLY IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS KIND AND LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS KIND AND LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A RING LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A RING ON IT.

NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A RING ON IT.

>> ONE OTHER POSSIBLE ON IT.

>> ONE OTHER POSSIBLE INTERPRETATION AND THE ONE THE >> ONE OTHER POSSIBLE INTERPRETATION AND THE ONE THE CITY FOLKS TOLD US IN THE INTERPRETATION AND THE ONE THE CITY FOLKS TOLD US IN THE INTERVIEW, WAS THAT WOMEN JUST CITY FOLKS TOLD US IN THE INTERVIEW, WAS THAT WOMEN JUST DON'T EXPECT CORPORATIONS TO INTERVIEW, WAS THAT WOMEN JUST DON'T EXPECT CORPORATIONS TO PROVIDE FAMILY FRIENDLY DON'T EXPECT CORPORATIONS TO PROVIDE FAMILY FRIENDLY BENEFITS.

PROVIDE FAMILY FRIENDLY BENEFITS.

AND SO THEY ARE THINKING IF I BENEFITS.

AND SO THEY ARE THINKING IF I WANT TO GET AHEAD, IT MEANS NO AND SO THEY ARE THINKING IF I WANT TO GET AHEAD, IT MEANS NO FAMILY.

WANT TO GET AHEAD, IT MEANS NO FAMILY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

FAMILY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> WELL, I THINK EVEN WITH WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> WELL, I THINK EVEN WITH BENEFITS I THINK AT THE END OF >> WELL, I THINK EVEN WITH BENEFITS I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY SOMETIMES MEETINGS GO BENEFITS I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY SOMETIMES MEETINGS GO LONG AND THEY DON'T MOVE RECITE THE DAY SOMETIMES MEETINGS GO LONG AND THEY DON'T MOVE RECITE TALLS BECAUSE YOUR MEETING GOES LONG AND THEY DON'T MOVE RECITE TALLS BECAUSE YOUR MEETING GOES LONG IF THERE'S FLEXIBILITY AT TALLS BECAUSE YOUR MEETING GOES LONG IF THERE'S FLEXIBILITY AT THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU ARE LONG IF THERE'S FLEXIBILITY AT THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE A SENIOR EXECUTIVE THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE A SENIOR EXECUTIVE IT'S NOT TO BE ON CALL ALL THE GOING TO BE A SENIOR EXECUTIVE IT'S NOT TO BE ON CALL ALL THE TIME.

IT'S NOT TO BE ON CALL ALL THE TIME.

SO I THINK WOMEN MAY BE MORE TIME.

SO I THINK WOMEN MAY BE MORE THAN MEN UNDERSTAND THE SO I THINK WOMEN MAY BE MORE THAN MEN UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THERE.

THAN MEN UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THERE.

BUT LOOK, I THINK IT'S ALSO CHALLENGES THERE.

BUT LOOK, I THINK IT'S ALSO SOMETHING MEN ARE MUCH MORE BUT LOOK, I THINK IT'S ALSO SOMETHING MEN ARE MUCH MORE ENGAGED WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR SOMETHING MEN ARE MUCH MORE ENGAGED WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR AT LEAST SHARING THE LOAD.

ENGAGED WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR AT LEAST SHARING THE LOAD.

>> YOUNGER MEN AT LEAST SHARING THE LOAD.

>> YOUNGER MEN >> MY DAD WAS EXTREMELY ENGAGED >> YOUNGER MEN >> MY DAD WAS EXTREMELY ENGAGED WITH THAT.

>> MY DAD WAS EXTREMELY ENGAGED WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK YOU HAVE MORE WOMEN WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK YOU HAVE MORE WOMEN TODAY WHO ARE NOT MARRIED OR BUT I THINK YOU HAVE MORE WOMEN TODAY WHO ARE NOT MARRIED OR DON'T HAVE FAMILIES AND NOT TODAY WHO ARE NOT MARRIED OR DON'T HAVE FAMILIES AND NOT NECESSARILY BY CHOICE BUT THAT DON'T HAVE FAMILIES AND NOT NECESSARILY BY CHOICE BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED AND YOU ARE NECESSARILY BY CHOICE BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED AND YOU ARE SEEING MORE OF A BALANCE COMING IS WHAT HAPPENED AND YOU ARE SEEING MORE OF A BALANCE COMING FROM THAT, TOO SEEING MORE OF A BALANCE COMING FROM THAT, TOO >> I SEE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IT FROM THAT, TOO >> I SEE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IT IS BY CHOICE.

>> I SEE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IT IS BY CHOICE.

I WAS RECENTLY MARRIED BUT WE IS BY CHOICE.

I WAS RECENTLY MARRIED BUT WE DON'T HAVE KIDS AND WE ARE NOT I WAS RECENTLY MARRIED BUT WE DON'T HAVE KIDS AND WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO HAVE KIDS ANYTIME DON'T HAVE KIDS AND WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO HAVE KIDS ANYTIME SOON AND IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO PLANNING TO HAVE KIDS ANYTIME SOON AND IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE CAREER LADDER THING.

SOON AND IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE CAREER LADDER THING.

I KNOW IT WILL DISRUPT MY CAREER WITH THE CAREER LADDER THING.

I KNOW IT WILL DISRUPT MY CAREER OR HIS CAREER AND THAT IS I KNOW IT WILL DISRUPT MY CAREER OR HIS CAREER AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE OR HIS CAREER AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THERE.

SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THERE.

WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER WE ARE INTO ACCOUNT THERE.

WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THEM OR NOT OR WHEN DETERMINING WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THEM OR NOT OR WHEN.

GOING TO HAVE THEM OR NOT OR WHEN.

>> BUT DO YOU SEE HAVING KIDS WHEN.

>> BUT DO YOU SEE HAVING KIDS ULTIMATELY AS PART OF YOUR >> BUT DO YOU SEE HAVING KIDS ULTIMATELY AS PART OF YOUR DEFINITION OF SUCCESS?

ULTIMATELY AS PART OF YOUR DEFINITION OF SUCCESS?

>> NO.

DEFINITION OF SUCCESS?

>> NO.

I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT >> NO.

I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE DEFINITION OF I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE DEFINITION OF SUCCESS.

CONTRIBUTES TO THE DEFINITION OF SUCCESS.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SEE SUCCESS.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SEE AS BEING FULFILLING?

YES.

AS BEING FULFILLING?

YES.

BUT I WOULDN'T DEFINE IT AS YES.

BUT I WOULDN'T DEFINE IT AS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH BUT I WOULDN'T DEFINE IT AS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH SUCCESS.

SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH SUCCESS.

I SEE SUCCESS AND THINK MOST SUCCESS.

I SEE SUCCESS AND THINK MOST PEOPLE IN MY GENERATION SEE I SEE SUCCESS AND THINK MOST PEOPLE IN MY GENERATION SEE SUCCESS AS SPECIFICALLY PEOPLE IN MY GENERATION SEE SUCCESS AS SPECIFICALLY SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH SUCCESS AS SPECIFICALLY SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR CAREER AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR CAREER AND THAT COULD BE WHAT WE ARE SEEING TOO.

YOUR CAREER AND THAT COULD BE WHAT WE ARE SEEING TOO.

WHEN ASKED ABOUT SUCCESS THEY WHAT WE ARE SEEING TOO.

WHEN ASKED ABOUT SUCCESS THEY PROBABLY ASSOCIATED THAT WITH WHEN ASKED ABOUT SUCCESS THEY PROBABLY ASSOCIATED THAT WITH CAREER VERSUS.

PROBABLY ASSOCIATED THAT WITH CAREER VERSUS.

>> I KNOW MOMS RAISING THEIR CAREER VERSUS.

>> I KNOW MOMS RAISING THEIR CHILDREN ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT >> I KNOW MOMS RAISING THEIR CHILDREN ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANY CAREER THEY WOULD HAVE CHILDREN ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANY CAREER THEY WOULD HAVE >> AND ONE PROBLEM WE ARE NOT AS ANY CAREER THEY WOULD HAVE >> AND ONE PROBLEM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS PEOPLE AND >> AND ONE PROBLEM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS PEOPLE AND WOMEN AND PARTNERS ARE TALKING ABOUT IS PEOPLE AND WOMEN AND PARTNERS ARE ACCOMMODATING CORPORATE AMERICA WOMEN AND PARTNERS ARE ACCOMMODATING CORPORATE AMERICA INSTEAD OF CORPORATE AMERICA ACCOMMODATING CORPORATE AMERICA INSTEAD OF CORPORATE AMERICA ACCOMMODATING WOMEN.

INSTEAD OF CORPORATE AMERICA ACCOMMODATING WOMEN.

AND THE FACT THAT MORE WOMEN ARE ACCOMMODATING WOMEN.

AND THE FACT THAT MORE WOMEN ARE IN THE WORKPLACE.

AND WE NEED FLEX HOURS.

IN THE WORKPLACE.

AND WE NEED FLEX HOURS.

AND WHEN I AM THE PARK I SEE AND WE NEED FLEX HOURS.

AND WHEN I AM THE PARK I SEE MORE DADS THERE THAN I THINK AND WHEN I AM THE PARK I SEE MORE DADS THERE THAN I THINK ANYBODY IN MY MOM'S GENERATION MORE DADS THERE THAN I THINK ANYBODY IN MY MOM'S GENERATION DID.

ANYBODY IN MY MOM'S GENERATION DID.

A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY DID.

A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WERE SHOCKED HOW MUCH MY HUSBAND A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WERE SHOCKED HOW MUCH MY HUSBAND DOES AND I WAS LIKE I WOULD NOT WERE SHOCKED HOW MUCH MY HUSBAND DOES AND I WAS LIKE I WOULD NOT HAVE MARRIED HIM IF I KNEW HE DOES AND I WAS LIKE I WOULD NOT HAVE MARRIED HIM IF I KNEW HE WAS NOT GOING TO HELP WITH THE HAVE MARRIED HIM IF I KNEW HE WAS NOT GOING TO HELP WITH THE LOAD.

WAS NOT GOING TO HELP WITH THE LOAD.

IT IS A HUGE LOAD.

LOAD.

IT IS A HUGE LOAD.

>> A LOT OF COMPANIES ESPECIALLY IT IS A HUGE LOAD.

>> A LOT OF COMPANIES ESPECIALLY THE Yahoo!

AND MESH SA THEY -- >> A LOT OF COMPANIES ESPECIALLY THE Yahoo!

AND MESH SA THEY -- THEY SAID FORGET ABOUT FLEX TIME THE Yahoo!

AND MESH SA THEY -- THEY SAID FORGET ABOUT FLEX TIME WE NEED FACE TIME THEY SAID FORGET ABOUT FLEX TIME WE NEED FACE TIME >> AND SHE SAY WORKING MOMMENT I WE NEED FACE TIME >> AND SHE SAY WORKING MOMMENT I ALSO HEARD SHE DID NOT NOT >> AND SHE SAY WORKING MOMMENT I ALSO HEARD SHE DID NOT NOT BECAUSE OF HER APPROACH TO ALSO HEARD SHE DID NOT NOT BECAUSE OF HER APPROACH TO WORKING FROM HOME BUT THE BECAUSE OF HER APPROACH TO WORKING FROM HOME BUT THE COMPANY WAS IN SHAMBLES AND SHE WORKING FROM HOME BUT THE COMPANY WAS IN SHAMBLES AND SHE NEEDED TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND.

COMPANY WAS IN SHAMBLES AND SHE NEEDED TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND.

AND GUESS WHAT?

NEEDED TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND.

AND GUESS WHAT?

PROFITS ARE SURGING.

AND GUESS WHAT?

PROFITS ARE SURGING.

IT'S BEEN REBRANDED.

PROFITS ARE SURGING.

IT'S BEEN REBRANDED.

HALLELUJAH TO MARISSA MEYER.

IT'S BEEN REBRANDED.

HALLELUJAH TO MARISSA MEYER.

AND SHE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE HALLELUJAH TO MARISSA MEYER.

AND SHE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE MATERNITY LEAVE BUT SHE DID NOT AND SHE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE MATERNITY LEAVE BUT SHE DID NOT COMMENT ON IT.

MATERNITY LEAVE BUT SHE DID NOT COMMENT ON IT.

SHE JUST WENT TO WORK.

COMMENT ON IT.

SHE JUST WENT TO WORK.

>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES A SHE JUST WENT TO WORK.

>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES A AMERICAN BRIDE IN KABUL THIS >> BEHIND THE HEADLINES A AMERICAN BRIDE IN KABUL THIS MEMOIR IS THE STORY OF A YOUNG AMERICAN BRIDE IN KABUL THIS MEMOIR IS THE STORY OF A YOUNG AMERICAN JEWISH WOMAN WHO FELL MEMOIR IS THE STORY OF A YOUNG AMERICAN JEWISH WOMAN WHO FELL IN LOVE WITH AN AFGHANI MAN AND AMERICAN JEWISH WOMAN WHO FELL IN LOVE WITH AN AFGHANI MAN AND RETURNED TO HIM WITH HIS OWN IN LOVE WITH AN AFGHANI MAN AND RETURNED TO HIM WITH HIS OWN COUNTRY.

RETURNED TO HIM WITH HIS OWN COUNTRY.

PHIL PHIL SAYS THERE IS A COUNTRY.

PHIL PHIL SAYS THERE IS A MESSAGE IN HER STORY.

HE WAS VERY WESTERNIZED IN THE MESSAGE IN HER STORY.

HE WAS VERY WESTERNIZED IN THE WEST.

BUT WHEN HE RETURNED HOME TO WEST.

BUT WHEN HE RETURNED HOME TO CLAIM HIS PLACE IN THE SCHEME OF BUT WHEN HE RETURNED HOME TO CLAIM HIS PLACE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, GIVEN THAT HIS FAMILY CLAIM HIS PLACE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, GIVEN THAT HIS FAMILY WAS POWERFUL, HE HAD TO FOLLOW THINGS, GIVEN THAT HIS FAMILY WAS POWERFUL, HE HAD TO FOLLOW THEIR CUSTOMS.

WAS POWERFUL, HE HAD TO FOLLOW THEIR CUSTOMS.

HE PROBABLY HOPED THAT I WOULD THEIR CUSTOMS.

HE PROBABLY HOPED THAT I WOULD ADJUST.

THIS WAS MADNESS.

ADJUST.

THIS WAS MADNESS.

>> WHEN CHESSLER ARRIVED IN THIS WAS MADNESS.

>> WHEN CHESSLER ARRIVED IN AFGHANISTAN WITH HER NEW HUSBAND >> WHEN CHESSLER ARRIVED IN AFGHANISTAN WITH HER NEW HUSBAND HER PASSPORT WAS CONFISCATED.

AFGHANISTAN WITH HER NEW HUSBAND HER PASSPORT WAS CONFISCATED.

SHE FACED THE REPRESSSIVE NORMS HER PASSPORT WAS CONFISCATED.

SHE FACED THE REPRESSSIVE NORMS ALL WOMEN FACE IN AFGHAN SOVMENT SHE FACED THE REPRESSSIVE NORMS ALL WOMEN FACE IN AFGHAN SOVMENT SHE HAD NO IDEA THAT SHE WOULD ALL WOMEN FACE IN AFGHAN SOVMENT SHE HAD NO IDEA THAT SHE WOULD BECOME A PRISONER OF HIS FAMILY SHE HAD NO IDEA THAT SHE WOULD BECOME A PRISONER OF HIS FAMILY >> I BECAME A CITIZEN OF NO BECOME A PRISONER OF HIS FAMILY >> I BECAME A CITIZEN OF NO COUNTRY.

>> I BECAME A CITIZEN OF NO COUNTRY.

AND THE PROPERTY OF A POLL LICK COUNTRY.

AND THE PROPERTY OF A POLL LICK MIST -- POLE LICK MIST AFGHAN AND THE PROPERTY OF A POLL LICK MIST -- POLE LICK MIST AFGHAN FAMILY, HE DID NOT MENTION AFTER MIST -- POLE LICK MIST AFGHAN FAMILY, HE DID NOT MENTION AFTER A TWO-AND-A-HALF YEAR COURTSHIP FAMILY, HE DID NOT MENTION AFTER A TWO-AND-A-HALF YEAR COURTSHIP HE NEVER MENTIONED HIS FATHER A TWO-AND-A-HALF YEAR COURTSHIP HE NEVER MENTIONED HIS FATHER HAD THREE WIVES AND 21 CHILDREN.

HE NEVER MENTIONED HIS FATHER HAD THREE WIVES AND 21 CHILDREN.

AND THAT I WOULD BE EXPECTED TO HAD THREE WIVES AND 21 CHILDREN.

AND THAT I WOULD BE EXPECTED TO LIVE WITH MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.

WHAT?

LIVE WITH MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.

WHAT?

AND THAT I COULDN'T GO OUT ON MY WHAT?

AND THAT I COULDN'T GO OUT ON MY OWN.

AFTER A FEW MONTHS SHE TRIED TO OWN.

AFTER A FEW MONTHS SHE TRIED TO RETURN HOME.

SHE TRIED TO ESCAPE TO THE RETURN HOME.

SHE TRIED TO ESCAPE TO THE AMERICAN EMBASSY BUT OFFICIALS SHE TRIED TO ESCAPE TO THE AMERICAN EMBASSY BUT OFFICIALS COULD NOT HELP HER WITHOUT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY BUT OFFICIALS COULD NOT HELP HER WITHOUT THE PASSPORT.

COULD NOT HELP HER WITHOUT THE PASSPORT.

SO SHE SOUGHT HELP AND FOUND IT PASSPORT.

SO SHE SOUGHT HELP AND FOUND IT FROM THE WIFE OF A GERMAN SO SHE SOUGHT HELP AND FOUND IT FROM THE WIFE OF A GERMAN DIPLOMAT WHO ARRANGED A FLIGHT FROM THE WIFE OF A GERMAN DIPLOMAT WHO ARRANGED A FLIGHT OUT.

DIPLOMAT WHO ARRANGED A FLIGHT OUT.

BUT CHESSLER FELL EXTREMELY SICK OUT.

BUT CHESSLER FELL EXTREMELY SICK WITH HEPATITIS BUT CHESSLER FELL EXTREMELY SICK WITH HEPATITIS >> AT THE LAST MOMENT MY WITH HEPATITIS >> AT THE LAST MOMENT MY FATHER-IN-LAW CAME AND HE VERY >> AT THE LAST MOMENT MY FATHER-IN-LAW CAME AND HE VERY CAREFULLY INTENTLY SAID I HEAR FATHER-IN-LAW CAME AND HE VERY CAREFULLY INTENTLY SAID I HEAR ABOUT YOUR LITTLE PLAN AND I CAREFULLY INTENTLY SAID I HEAR ABOUT YOUR LITTLE PLAN AND I THINK IT'S BETTER IF YOU LEAVE ABOUT YOUR LITTLE PLAN AND I THINK IT'S BETTER IF YOU LEAVE ON AN AFGHAN VISA FOR REASONS OF THINK IT'S BETTER IF YOU LEAVE ON AN AFGHAN VISA FOR REASONS OF HEALTH.

ON AN AFGHAN VISA FOR REASONS OF HEALTH.

AND HE GAVE ME A VISA.

HEALTH.

AND HE GAVE ME A VISA.

AND I UNDERSTAND IN RETROSPECT AND HE GAVE ME A VISA.

AND I UNDERSTAND IN RETROSPECT THAT HE PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW WHY AND I UNDERSTAND IN RETROSPECT THAT HE PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW WHY HIS SON FOR WHOM HE HAD SUCH THAT HE PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW WHY HIS SON FOR WHOM HE HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES HAD BROUGHT HOME A HIS SON FOR WHOM HE HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES HAD BROUGHT HOME A JEWISH GIRL FROM AMERICA.

HIGH HOPES HAD BROUGHT HOME A JEWISH GIRL FROM AMERICA.

>> WHATEVER THE MEANS FOR HER JEWISH GIRL FROM AMERICA.

>> WHATEVER THE MEANS FOR HER ESCAPE SHOIFS OVERJOYED BACK >> WHATEVER THE MEANS FOR HER ESCAPE SHOIFS OVERJOYED BACK BACK HOME.

ESCAPE SHOIFS OVERJOYED BACK BACK HOME.

I HAD TO FIGHT IT OUT IN AMERICA BACK HOME.

I HAD TO FIGHT IT OUT IN AMERICA WHEN THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE I HAD TO FIGHT IT OUT IN AMERICA WHEN THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE AMERICAN STATE DEPARTMENT SAITH WHEN THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE AMERICAN STATE DEPARTMENT SAITH SAID WELL YOUR VISA IS UP YOU AMERICAN STATE DEPARTMENT SAITH SAID WELL YOUR VISA IS UP YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO AFGHANISTAN.

SAID WELL YOUR VISA IS UP YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO AFGHANISTAN.

I SAID NO.

HAVE TO GO BACK TO AFGHANISTAN.

I SAID NO.

I WILL CHAIN MYSELF TO THE I SAID NO.

I WILL CHAIN MYSELF TO THE STATUE OF LIBERTY.

>> SHE HAS WRITTEN NUMEROUS STATUE OF LIBERTY.

>> SHE HAS WRITTEN NUMEROUS BOOKS AND CAMPAIGNS AGAINST THE >> SHE HAS WRITTEN NUMEROUS BOOKS AND CAMPAIGNS AGAINST THE TREATMENT OF WOMEN IN THE ARAB BOOKS AND CAMPAIGNS AGAINST THE TREATMENT OF WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD.

TREATMENT OF WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD.

BUT SOME FEMINISTS LIBERALS AND WORLD.

BUT SOME FEMINISTS LIBERALS AND CRITICS BRISTLE AT HER STRIDENT BUT SOME FEMINISTS LIBERALS AND CRITICS BRISTLE AT HER STRIDENT CONDEMNATION CRITICS BRISTLE AT HER STRIDENT CONDEMNATION >> FEMINISTS HAVE UNDERSTANDABLY CONDEMNATION >> FEMINISTS HAVE UNDERSTANDABLY BEEN RELUCTANT TO FINGER POINT.

>> FEMINISTS HAVE UNDERSTANDABLY BEEN RELUCTANT TO FINGER POINT.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE BEEN RELUCTANT TO FINGER POINT.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF BEING RACISTS OR BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF BEING RACISTS OR BEING ISLAM FOLKS AND THEREFORE ACCUSED OF BEING RACISTS OR BEING ISLAM FOLKS AND THEREFORE THEY HAVE LOST AN EXTRAORDINARY BEING ISLAM FOLKS AND THEREFORE THEY HAVE LOST AN EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMON CAUSE THEY HAVE LOST AN EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMON CAUSE WITH MUSLIM FEMINISTS AND MUSLIM OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMON CAUSE WITH MUSLIM FEMINISTS AND MUSLIM DISSIDENTS WITH WHOM I WORK WHO WITH MUSLIM FEMINISTS AND MUSLIM DISSIDENTS WITH WHOM I WORK WHO ARE ANTI-FUNDAMENTALISM.

DISSIDENTS WITH WHOM I WORK WHO ARE ANTI-FUNDAMENTALISM.

>> SHE WRITES: I HAVE OFFENDED ARE ANTI-FUNDAMENTALISM.

>> SHE WRITES: I HAVE OFFENDED EVERYONE.

A "BOSTON GLOBE" CRITIC SAYS EVERYONE.

A "BOSTON GLOBE" CRITIC SAYS THIS IS TRUE.

BUT CHESSLER DOES NOT SHY AWAY THIS IS TRUE.

BUT CHESSLER DOES NOT SHY AWAY FROM HER COMMITTED ATTACK ON BUT CHESSLER DOES NOT SHY AWAY FROM HER COMMITTED ATTACK ON ISLAMIC SOCIETY.

FROM HER COMMITTED ATTACK ON ISLAMIC SOCIETY.

>> I AM SECOND WAVE FEMINIST ISLAMIC SOCIETY.

>> I AM SECOND WAVE FEMINIST LEADER.

AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS LEADER.

AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I'M CERTAINLY ANTIRACIST AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I'M CERTAINLY ANTIRACIST BUT I AM NOT A MULTICULTURAL THAT I'M CERTAINLY ANTIRACIST BUT I AM NOT A MULTICULTURAL RELATIVIST.

BUT I AM NOT A MULTICULTURAL RELATIVIST.

I DON'T THINK ALL CULTURES ARE RELATIVIST.

I DON'T THINK ALL CULTURES ARE EQUAL.

I DON'T THINK IT'S OK TO STONE EQUAL.

I DON'T THINK IT'S OK TO STONE WOMEN OR FORCE THEM INTO POLL I DON'T THINK IT'S OK TO STONE WOMEN OR FORCE THEM INTO POLL LICK MIST MARRIAGES POLYGAMIST WOMEN OR FORCE THEM INTO POLL LICK MIST MARRIAGES POLYGAMIST MARRIAGES.

LICK MIST MARRIAGES POLYGAMIST MARRIAGES.

>> IS IT RACIST IN YOUR MIND TO MARRIAGES.

>> IS IT RACIST IN YOUR MIND TO TALK THE WAY SHE DOES ABOUT >> IS IT RACIST IN YOUR MIND TO TALK THE WAY SHE DOES ABOUT ISLAMIC CULTURE?

TALK THE WAY SHE DOES ABOUT ISLAMIC CULTURE?

>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO HER ISLAMIC CULTURE?

>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO HER STORY, I THINK THAT THE BLIGHT >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO HER STORY, I THINK THAT THE BLIGHT OF AFGHAN WOMEN AND GIRLS IS SO STORY, I THINK THAT THE BLIGHT OF AFGHAN WOMEN AND GIRLS IS SO REAL AND BELONGS AT THE TOP OF OF AFGHAN WOMEN AND GIRLS IS SO REAL AND BELONGS AT THE TOP OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY PRIORITIES.

REAL AND BELONGS AT THE TOP OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY PRIORITIES.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HER GOAL U.S. FOREIGN POLICY PRIORITIES.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HER GOAL IS.

I FEEL LIKE HER STORY THE DOES IS.

I FEEL LIKE HER STORY THE DOES IS PERPETUATE NEGATIVE SCARY I FEEL LIKE HER STORY THE DOES IS PERPETUATE NEGATIVE SCARY STEREOTYPES OF THE ANGRY SCARY IS PERPETUATE NEGATIVE SCARY STEREOTYPES OF THE ANGRY SCARY MUSLIM MAN AND ALL THE PROBLEMS STEREOTYPES OF THE ANGRY SCARY MUSLIM MAN AND ALL THE PROBLEMS THERE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.

MUSLIM MAN AND ALL THE PROBLEMS THERE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.

AND IT'S DISMISSSIVE OF THE FACT THERE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.

AND IT'S DISMISSSIVE OF THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT GENERALIZE ALL AND IT'S DISMISSSIVE OF THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT GENERALIZE ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES, ALL MUSLIM MEN THAT YOU CANNOT GENERALIZE ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES, ALL MUSLIM MEN AND ALL MUSLIM WOMEN MUSLIM COUNTRIES, ALL MUSLIM MEN AND ALL MUSLIM WOMEN >> I AGREE YOU CANNOT AND ALL MUSLIM WOMEN >> I AGREE YOU CANNOT GENERALIZE.

>> I AGREE YOU CANNOT GENERALIZE.

I WAS IN TURKEY AND IT HAS TO BE GENERALIZE.

I WAS IN TURKEY AND IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST WESTERNIZEDY I WAS IN TURKEY AND IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST WESTERNIZEDY THAN MANY.

ONE OF THE MOST WESTERNIZEDY THAN MANY.

AND THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT MEN THAN MANY.

AND THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT MEN RUN THAT SOCIETY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE RUN THAT SOCIETY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE CASTING A STONE AT EVERYBODY BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE CASTING A STONE AT EVERYBODY BUT IT PUTS OUT FRONT THAT THERE'S CASTING A STONE AT EVERYBODY BUT IT PUTS OUT FRONT THAT THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN A PERSONAL IT PUTS OUT FRONT THAT THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN A PERSONAL STORY TO MAKE PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH NOTHING BETTER THAN A PERSONAL STORY TO MAKE PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH THE ISSUES AND FOR REAL STORY TO MAKE PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH THE ISSUES AND FOR REAL ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S TOLD BY AN THE ISSUES AND FOR REAL ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S TOLD BY AN AMERICAN ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S TOLD BY AN AMERICAN >> I FEEL LIKE CHESSLER IS AMERICAN >> I FEEL LIKE CHESSLER IS CASTING A STONE AND THE STORY >> I FEEL LIKE CHESSLER IS CASTING A STONE AND THE STORY WAS PG VERSION OF BETTY AND NOT CASTING A STONE AND THE STORY WAS PG VERSION OF BETTY AND NOT WITHOUT MY DAUGHTER WHICH WAS WAS PG VERSION OF BETTY AND NOT WITHOUT MY DAUGHTER WHICH WAS RELEASED IN THE LATE 80s EARLY WITHOUT MY DAUGHTER WHICH WAS RELEASED IN THE LATE 80s EARLY 90s WHICH WAS THE SAME STORY RELEASED IN THE LATE 80s EARLY 90s WHICH WAS THE SAME STORY ABOUT AN AMERICAN WOMAN WHO 90s WHICH WAS THE SAME STORY ABOUT AN AMERICAN WOMAN WHO MARRIED AN IRANIAN MAN AND WENT ABOUT AN AMERICAN WOMAN WHO MARRIED AN IRANIAN MAN AND WENT BACK AND HER PASSPORT WAS TAKEN MARRIED AN IRANIAN MAN AND WENT BACK AND HER PASSPORT WAS TAKEN AWAY.

BACK AND HER PASSPORT WAS TAKEN AWAY.

SHE WAS TRAPPED FOR LONGER.

AWAY.

SHE WAS TRAPPED FOR LONGER.

10 WEEKS SEEMS LIKE A BABY MOON.

SHE WAS TRAPPED FOR LONGER.

10 WEEKS SEEMS LIKE A BABY MOON.

SO I FEEL LIKE THE STORY HASEK 10 WEEKS SEEMS LIKE A BABY MOON.

SO I FEEL LIKE THE STORY HASEK DOES OF A STORY WE'VE HEARD.

>> WHAT IS WRONG YOU ARE RIGHT DOES OF A STORY WE'VE HEARD.

>> WHAT IS WRONG YOU ARE RIGHT IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS >> WHAT IS WRONG YOU ARE RIGHT IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS PROBABLY CONTINUING WHAT HILLARY IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS PROBABLY CONTINUING WHAT HILLARY CLINTON AND CONDOLEEZZA RICE PROBABLY CONTINUING WHAT HILLARY CLINTON AND CONDOLEEZZA RICE BEFORE HER STARTED REALLY CLINTON AND CONDOLEEZZA RICE BEFORE HER STARTED REALLY TARGETING AFGHAN WOMEN TRYING TO BEFORE HER STARTED REALLY TARGETING AFGHAN WOMEN TRYING TO HELP THEM HAVE MORE FREEDOM TARGETING AFGHAN WOMEN TRYING TO HELP THEM HAVE MORE FREEDOM ENVIRONMENT LAWS THAT ARE IN HELP THEM HAVE MORE FREEDOM ENVIRONMENT LAWS THAT ARE IN THEIR FAVOR.

ENVIRONMENT LAWS THAT ARE IN THEIR FAVOR.

WHY IS IT BAD IF SHE POINTS OUT THEIR FAVOR.

WHY IS IT BAD IF SHE POINTS OUT HER EXPERIENCE?

AGAIN I'M NOT -- I HAVE NOT READ HER EXPERIENCE?

AGAIN I'M NOT -- I HAVE NOT READ EVERY WORD I DON'T KNOW WHAT AGAIN I'M NOT -- I HAVE NOT READ EVERY WORD I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORDS SHE USES.

EVERY WORD I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORDS SHE USES.

BUT TO TELL THE STORY WORDS SHE USES.

BUT TO TELL THE STORY >> I THINK IT'S FINE FOR HER TO BUT TO TELL THE STORY >> I THINK IT'S FINE FOR HER TO TELL THE STORY AND I THINK THAT >> I THINK IT'S FINE FOR HER TO TELL THE STORY AND I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO SELL BOOKS.

TELL THE STORY AND I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO SELL BOOKS.

SHE IS BEING SENSATIONAL ABOUT IT'S GOING TO SELL BOOKS.

SHE IS BEING SENSATIONAL ABOUT IT.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MORE IT.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MORE BALANCED.

BUT THERE IS GOOD WORK.

BALANCED.

BUT THERE IS GOOD WORK.

LET'S NOT FORGET THAT 60% OF BUT THERE IS GOOD WORK.

LET'S NOT FORGET THAT 60% OF AFGHAN WOMEN HAVE MEDICAL LET'S NOT FORGET THAT 60% OF AFGHAN WOMEN HAVE MEDICAL DEGREES AND THEN YOU KNOW, OVER AFGHAN WOMEN HAVE MEDICAL DEGREES AND THEN YOU KNOW, OVER 20 YEARS OF WAR, CIVIL WAR, THE DEGREES AND THEN YOU KNOW, OVER 20 YEARS OF WAR, CIVIL WAR, THE U.S.

OCCUPATION, THE RUSSIAN 20 YEARS OF WAR, CIVIL WAR, THE U.S.

OCCUPATION, THE RUSSIAN INVATION SO MUCH HAPPENED TO THE U.S.

OCCUPATION, THE RUSSIAN INVATION SO MUCH HAPPENED TO THE SOCIETY AND KABUL IS VERY INVATION SO MUCH HAPPENED TO THE SOCIETY AND KABUL IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM PESHAWAR THE SOCIETY AND KABUL IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM PESHAWAR THE BORDER.

DIFFERENT FROM PESHAWAR THE BORDER.

I WISH SHE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE BORDER.

I WISH SHE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE INCLUSIVE AND ACADEMIC AND I WISH SHE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE INCLUSIVE AND ACADEMIC AND FACTUAL ABOUT IT.

INCLUSIVE AND ACADEMIC AND FACTUAL ABOUT IT.

I HAVE BEEN A FEMINIST POLICY FACTUAL ABOUT IT.

I HAVE BEEN A FEMINIST POLICY ANALYST IN WASHINGTON D.C. FOR A I HAVE BEEN A FEMINIST POLICY ANALYST IN WASHINGTON D.C. FOR A DECADE.

ANALYST IN WASHINGTON D.C. FOR A DECADE.

I'VE WORKED ON NOBLE PEACE PRIZE DECADE.

I'VE WORKED ON NOBLE PEACE PRIZE CAMPAIGNS AND LET ME TELL YOU I'VE WORKED ON NOBLE PEACE PRIZE CAMPAIGNS AND LET ME TELL YOU THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK CAMPAIGNS AND LET ME TELL YOU THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING DONE AND THE ENTIRE THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING DONE AND THE ENTIRE ATTITUDE IS WE'RE FINE IN BEING DONE AND THE ENTIRE ATTITUDE IS WE'RE FINE IN AMERICA AND LET US HELP THE ATTITUDE IS WE'RE FINE IN AMERICA AND LET US HELP THE BROWN WOMEN PEOPLE OVER THERE.

AMERICA AND LET US HELP THE BROWN WOMEN PEOPLE OVER THERE.

>> SHE WAS TELLING A STORY THAT BROWN WOMEN PEOPLE OVER THERE.

>> SHE WAS TELLING A STORY THAT HAPPENED DECADES AGO.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO DRAW HAPPENED DECADES AGO.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THAT THAT NOW, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THAT THAT NOW, THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK ATTENTION TO THAT THAT NOW, THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING DONE.

THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING DONE.

BUT THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE BEING DONE.

BUT THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE CASE WHEN SHE WAS THERE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 60s.

CASE WHEN SHE WAS THERE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 60s.

>> SHE DOES NOT HAVE THAT TONE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 60s.

>> SHE DOES NOT HAVE THAT TONE THIS IS MY STORY MAYBE THINGS >> SHE DOES NOT HAVE THAT TONE THIS IS MY STORY MAYBE THINGS ARE BETTER NOW THIS IS MY STORY MAYBE THINGS ARE BETTER NOW >> AND HAVING READ THE BOOK -- ARE BETTER NOW >> AND HAVING READ THE BOOK -- WHAT I HAVE READ ABOUT THE BOOK, >> AND HAVING READ THE BOOK -- WHAT I HAVE READ ABOUT THE BOOK, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SHE IS WHAT I HAVE READ ABOUT THE BOOK, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SHE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHE IS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SHE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO BUT DECADES AGO.

TALKING ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO BUT DECADES AGO.

>> I'VE TRAVELED WILDLY IN DECADES AGO.

>> I'VE TRAVELED WILDLY IN TURKEY, EGYPT, LEBANON, IT GOES >> I'VE TRAVELED WILDLY IN TURKEY, EGYPT, LEBANON, IT GOES ON AND ON.

TURKEY, EGYPT, LEBANON, IT GOES ON AND ON.

AND I SEE A LOT OF WOMEN THERE ON AND ON.

AND I SEE A LOT OF WOMEN THERE OR I HAVE MET A LOT OF WOMEN AND I SEE A LOT OF WOMEN THERE OR I HAVE MET A LOT OF WOMEN THERE WHO ARE WEARING THE OR I HAVE MET A LOT OF WOMEN THERE WHO ARE WEARING THE BLACKOUT FITS AND FOLLOWING THERE WHO ARE WEARING THE BLACKOUT FITS AND FOLLOWING THEIR HUSBANDS AND NOT ALLOWED BLACKOUT FITS AND FOLLOWING THEIR HUSBANDS AND NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUT ALONE UNESCOURTED AND THEIR HUSBANDS AND NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUT ALONE UNESCOURTED AND THEY TELL ME THEY ARE -- THAT TO GO OUT ALONE UNESCOURTED AND THEY TELL ME THEY ARE -- THAT ISLAM IS LIBERATING TO THEM.

THEY TELL ME THEY ARE -- THAT ISLAM IS LIBERATING TO THEM.

AND THAT DOES BOTHER ME.

ISLAM IS LIBERATING TO THEM.

AND THAT DOES BOTHER ME.

QUICKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE 20 AND THAT DOES BOTHER ME.

QUICKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE 20 SECONDS.

BUT WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE?

SECONDS.

BUT WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE?

>> I WRITE SO MUCH I THINK WE BUT WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE?

>> I WRITE SO MUCH I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DO >> I WRITE SO MUCH I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DO NOT GENERALIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DO NOT GENERALIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT OF COURSE THERE'S NOT GENERALIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT OF COURSE THERE'S PROBLEMS.

THE FACT OF COURSE THERE'S PROBLEMS.

THERE'S PROBLEMS HERE.

PROBLEMS.

THERE'S PROBLEMS HERE.

>> AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT THERE'S PROBLEMS HERE.

>> AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT >> AND LIKE WE LIVE IN THE >> AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT >> AND LIKE WE LIVE IN THE CONFRONTATION WITH PATRIOTRY IS >> AND LIKE WE LIVE IN THE CONFRONTATION WITH PATRIOTRY IS SOMETHING THAT WOMEN'S MOVEMENTS CONFRONTATION WITH PATRIOTRY IS SOMETHING THAT WOMEN'S MOVEMENTS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE TRYING TO SOMETHING THAT WOMEN'S MOVEMENTS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE TRYING TO CONQUER.

ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE TRYING TO CONQUER.

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