The Pope, Gays & Women; UN General Assembly; Wadjda

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, GAYS, WOMEN AND THE NEW CONTRARY" FIRST, GAYS, WOMEN AND THE NEW CATHOLIC CHURCH.

FIRST, GAYS, WOMEN AND THE NEW CATHOLIC CHURCH.

THEN, WOMEN'S ISSUES HIGH ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

THEN, WOMEN'S ISSUES HIGH ON THE U.N.

AGENDA, BEHIND THE THEN, WOMEN'S ISSUES HIGH ON THE U.N.

AGENDA, BEHIND THE HEADLINES; WADJDA, WE INTRODUCE U.N.

AGENDA, BEHIND THE HEADLINES; WADJDA, WE INTRODUCE YOU TO THE FEMALE DIRECTOR OF HEADLINES; WADJDA, WE INTRODUCE YOU TO THE FEMALE DIRECTOR OF THE FIRST THEATRICAL RELEASE YOU TO THE FEMALE DIRECTOR OF THE FIRST THEATRICAL RELEASE FILM EVER SHOT IN SAUDI ARABIA.

>> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

>> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A >> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, PAPAL REVELATIONS.

PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, PAPAL REVELATIONS.

A WATERSHED MOMENT ON THE UP FIRST, PAPAL REVELATIONS.

A WATERSHED MOMENT ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND SOCIAL A WATERSHED MOMENT ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND SOCIAL ISSUES?

CATHOLIC CHURCH AND SOCIAL ISSUES?

THIS WEEK POPE FRANCIS WARNED IN ISSUES?

THIS WEEK POPE FRANCIS WARNED IN AN EXPANSIVE INTERVIEW THAT THE THIS WEEK POPE FRANCIS WARNED IN AN EXPANSIVE INTERVIEW THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL LOSE ITS AN EXPANSIVE INTERVIEW THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL LOSE ITS MORAL AUTHORITY OR AS HE PUT IT, CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL LOSE ITS MORAL AUTHORITY OR AS HE PUT IT, THE CHURCH'S MORAL STRUCTURE MORAL AUTHORITY OR AS HE PUT IT, THE CHURCH'S MORAL STRUCTURE MIGHT "FALL LIKE A HOUSE OF THE CHURCH'S MORAL STRUCTURE MIGHT "FALL LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS" IF IT KEEPS FOCUSING ON MIGHT "FALL LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS" IF IT KEEPS FOCUSING ON ABORTION, GAY RIGHTS AND CARDS" IF IT KEEPS FOCUSING ON ABORTION, GAY RIGHTS AND CONTRACEPTION.

ABORTION, GAY RIGHTS AND CONTRACEPTION.

IN AN INTERVIEW WITH AN ITALIAN CONTRACEPTION.

IN AN INTERVIEW WITH AN ITALIAN JESUIT MAGAZINE POPE FRANCIS IN AN INTERVIEW WITH AN ITALIAN JESUIT MAGAZINE POPE FRANCIS SAID THE CHURCH MUST BALANCE ITS JESUIT MAGAZINE POPE FRANCIS SAID THE CHURCH MUST BALANCE ITS DIVISIVE RULES ON THOSE ISSUES SAID THE CHURCH MUST BALANCE ITS DIVISIVE RULES ON THOSE ISSUES WITH THE GREATER NEED TO MAKE IT DIVISIVE RULES ON THOSE ISSUES WITH THE GREATER NEED TO MAKE IT A MERCIFUL, MORE WELCOMING PLACE WITH THE GREATER NEED TO MAKE IT A MERCIFUL, MORE WELCOMING PLACE FOR ALL.

A MERCIFUL, MORE WELCOMING PLACE FOR ALL.

IN THE INTERVIEW HE LAID OUT HIS FOR ALL.

IN THE INTERVIEW HE LAID OUT HIS VISION FOR THE CHURCH ON THESE IN THE INTERVIEW HE LAID OUT HIS VISION FOR THE CHURCH ON THESE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT CONTRAST VISION FOR THE CHURCH ON THESE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT CONTRAST SHARPLY WITH MANY OF THE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT CONTRAST SHARPLY WITH MANY OF THE PRIORITIES OF HIS IMMEDIATE SHARPLY WITH MANY OF THE PRIORITIES OF HIS IMMEDIATE PREDECESSORS, JOHN PAUL II AND PRIORITIES OF HIS IMMEDIATE PREDECESSORS, JOHN PAUL II AND BENEDICT XVI.

PREDECESSORS, JOHN PAUL II AND BENEDICT XVI.

INSTEAD OF BEING DIVISIVE, HE BENEDICT XVI.

INSTEAD OF BEING DIVISIVE, HE SAID, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MUST INSTEAD OF BEING DIVISIVE, HE SAID, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MUST BE LIKE A "FIELD HOSPITAL AFTER SAID, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MUST BE LIKE A "FIELD HOSPITAL AFTER BATTLE," HEALING THE WOUNDS OF BE LIKE A "FIELD HOSPITAL AFTER BATTLE," HEALING THE WOUNDS OF ITS FAITHFUL AND GOING OUT TO BATTLE," HEALING THE WOUNDS OF ITS FAITHFUL AND GOING OUT TO FIND THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT, ITS FAITHFUL AND GOING OUT TO FIND THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT, EXCLUDED OR HAVE FALLEN AWAY.

FIND THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT, EXCLUDED OR HAVE FALLEN AWAY.

WHAT WILL THE POPE'S WORDS HAVE EXCLUDED OR HAVE FALLEN AWAY.

WHAT WILL THE POPE'S WORDS HAVE ON SOCIAL ISSUE DIVIDE THAT WE WHAT WILL THE POPE'S WORDS HAVE ON SOCIAL ISSUE DIVIDE THAT WE HAVE HERE AT HOME?

ON SOCIAL ISSUE DIVIDE THAT WE HAVE HERE AT HOME?

>> POPE FRANCIS HAS TAKEN AN HAVE HERE AT HOME?

>> POPE FRANCIS HAS TAKEN AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP TOWARD >> POPE FRANCIS HAS TAKEN AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP TOWARD REDUCING HARMS INFLICTED ON IMPORTANT FIRST STEP TOWARD REDUCING HARMS INFLICTED ON WOMEN AND LGBT AROUND THE WORLD REDUCING HARMS INFLICTED ON WOMEN AND LGBT AROUND THE WORLD WITH THESE COMMENTS BUT WE NEED WOMEN AND LGBT AROUND THE WORLD WITH THESE COMMENTS BUT WE NEED TO SEE SOME ACTION.

WITH THESE COMMENTS BUT WE NEED TO SEE SOME ACTION.

>> IF ANYONE THINKS THAT THE TO SEE SOME ACTION.

>> IF ANYONE THINKS THAT THE FIRST THING ON THE OPEN'S MIND >> IF ANYONE THINKS THAT THE FIRST THING ON THE OPEN'S MIND IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN AMERICAN FIRST THING ON THE OPEN'S MIND IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN AMERICAN POLITICS WHEN HE MAKES ROLL SEE, IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN AMERICAN POLITICS WHEN HE MAKES ROLL SEE, THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING INSIDE POLITICS WHEN HE MAKES ROLL SEE, THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING INSIDE THAT BELTWAY WAY TOO LONG.

THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING INSIDE THAT BELTWAY WAY TOO LONG.

>> I THINK THIS POPE MAY YET THAT BELTWAY WAY TOO LONG.

>> I THINK THIS POPE MAY YET RELAX AS A RIGHT WING LEGIT TEE >> I THINK THIS POPE MAY YET RELAX AS A RIGHT WING LEGIT TEE THAT DEFIES US HERE MORTALS.

RELAX AS A RIGHT WING LEGIT TEE THAT DEFIES US HERE MORTALS.

>> THERE IS SOME THAT DEFIES US HERE MORTALS.

>> THERE IS SOME MISINTERPRETATION OF THE OPEN'S >> THERE IS SOME MISINTERPRETATION OF THE OPEN'S WORDS, MAYBE TAKING THEM OUT OF MISINTERPRETATION OF THE OPEN'S WORDS, MAYBE TAKING THEM OUT OF CONTEXT.

WORDS, MAYBE TAKING THEM OUT OF CONTEXT.

IN THE 12,000 WORD INTERVIEW THE CONTEXT.

IN THE 12,000 WORD INTERVIEW THE MENTION OF HOMOSEXUALITY WAS IN THE 12,000 WORD INTERVIEW THE MENTION OF HOMOSEXUALITY WAS FAIRLY SMALL AND HE REALLY MENTION OF HOMOSEXUALITY WAS FAIRLY SMALL AND HE REALLY SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THE ISSUE FAIRLY SMALL AND HE REALLY SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THE ISSUE IN CONTEXT.

SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THE ISSUE IN CONTEXT.

IN THE GREATEST CONTEXT OF THE IN CONTEXT.

IN THE GREATEST CONTEXT OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST KNOWING IN THE GREATEST CONTEXT OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST KNOWING THERE ARE HOLE PROHIBITIONS.

GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST KNOWING THERE ARE HOLE PROHIBITIONS.

>> BUT HE SAID THAT THE CATHOLIC THERE ARE HOLE PROHIBITIONS.

>> BUT HE SAID THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OBSESSED WITH THESE >> BUT HE SAID THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OBSESSED WITH THESE ISSUES THAT'S THOUGHT A SOFT CHURCH IS OBSESSED WITH THESE ISSUES THAT'S THOUGHT A SOFT WORD.

ISSUES THAT'S THOUGHT A SOFT WORD.

HE APPROVED THE 12,000 WORD WORD.

HE APPROVED THE 12,000 WORD MANUSCRIPT AFTER THE INTERVIEW HE APPROVED THE 12,000 WORD MANUSCRIPT AFTER THE INTERVIEW WAS WRITTEN DOWN AND AN ARTICLE MANUSCRIPT AFTER THE INTERVIEW WAS WRITTEN DOWN AND AN ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN ABOUT IT.

WAS WRITTEN DOWN AND AN ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN ABOUT IT.

I TRULY DON'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE WAS WRITTEN ABOUT IT.

I TRULY DON'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THESE WORDS ARE BEING I TRULY DON'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THESE WORDS ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

SAYING THESE WORDS ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

>> I THINK THE REAL OBSESSION IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

>> I THINK THE REAL OBSESSION IS IN THE AMERICAN MEDIA WHEN WE >> I THINK THE REAL OBSESSION IS IN THE AMERICAN MEDIA WHEN WE LOOK AT A 12,000 WORD ESSAY THEN IN THE AMERICAN MEDIA WHEN WE LOOK AT A 12,000 WORD ESSAY THEN WE HONE IN ON THIS SPECIFIC LOOK AT A 12,000 WORD ESSAY THEN WE HONE IN ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE WHAT IS THE REST OF THE WE HONE IN ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE WHAT IS THE REST OF THE INTERVIEW SAY.

ISSUE WHAT IS THE REST OF THE INTERVIEW SAY.

>> MY GOODNESS, I THINK YOU INTERVIEW SAY.

>> MY GOODNESS, I THINK YOU REALLY HISSED THE POINT.

>> MY GOODNESS, I THINK YOU REALLY HISSED THE POINT.

WHEN A POPE SPEAKS, PARTICULARLY REALLY HISSED THE POINT.

WHEN A POPE SPEAKS, PARTICULARLY GOES ON THE RECORD ABOUT AN WHEN A POPE SPEAKS, PARTICULARLY GOES ON THE RECORD ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT HAS HAD RIGID GOES ON THE RECORD ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT HAS HAD RIGID DOCTRINE FOR AS LONG AS ANY OF ISSUE THAT HAS HAD RIGID DOCTRINE FOR AS LONG AS ANY OF US CAN THINK, YOU CAN BET YOUR DOCTRINE FOR AS LONG AS ANY OF US CAN THINK, YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR AND YOU ARE AT US CAN THINK, YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR AND YOU ARE AT LEAST GIVE THIS POPE THAT BOTTOM DOLLAR AND YOU ARE AT LEAST GIVE THIS POPE THAT CREDIT.

LEAST GIVE THIS POPE THAT CREDIT.

>> VERY CAREFULLY AND HE WAS CREDIT.

>> VERY CAREFULLY AND HE WAS SENDING A REAL MESSAGE ALL OVER >> VERY CAREFULLY AND HE WAS SENDING A REAL MESSAGE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, SENDING A REAL MESSAGE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, MESSAGE RECEIVED.

THE WORLD AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, MESSAGE RECEIVED.

>> BUT LET'S JUST GO WITH HE MESSAGE RECEIVED.

>> BUT LET'S JUST GO WITH HE MEANT IT BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE >> BUT LET'S JUST GO WITH HE MEANT IT BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE WORD IS RESPONDING THAT WAY.

MEANT IT BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE WORD IS RESPONDING THAT WAY.

AND YOU WERE RAISED CATHOLIC.

WORD IS RESPONDING THAT WAY.

AND YOU WERE RAISED CATHOLIC.

WHAT WILL DO IT TO THE LIT CALL AND YOU WERE RAISED CATHOLIC.

WHAT WILL DO IT TO THE LIT CALL DIVIDE HERE OVER THESE SOCIAL WHAT WILL DO IT TO THE LIT CALL DIVIDE HERE OVER THESE SOCIAL ISSUES, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DIVIDE HERE OVER THESE SOCIAL ISSUES, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE EVEN ON THE RIGHT ARE SAYING, ISSUES, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE EVEN ON THE RIGHT ARE SAYING, REPUBLICANS NEED TO GET OFF THIS EVEN ON THE RIGHT ARE SAYING, REPUBLICANS NEED TO GET OFF THIS STUFF AND HOOF ON TO -- WHERE REPUBLICANS NEED TO GET OFF THIS STUFF AND HOOF ON TO -- WHERE THEY'RE REALLY STRONG WHICH IS STUFF AND HOOF ON TO -- WHERE THEY'RE REALLY STRONG WHICH IS FINANCIAL ISSUES.

THEY'RE REALLY STRONG WHICH IS FINANCIAL ISSUES.

>> AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS WAS FINANCIAL ISSUES.

>> AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS WAS NECESSARILY A COMMENTARY ABOUT >> AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS WAS NECESSARILY A COMMENTARY ABOUT WHAT REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS -- NECESSARILY A COMMENTARY ABOUT WHAT REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS -- >> NO, NO.

WHAT REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS -- >> NO, NO.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT.

>> NO, NO.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT.

I'M JUST ASKING, I WANT TO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT.

I'M JUST ASKING, I WANT TO BRING -- THIS HAPPENED IN ITALY, I'M JUST ASKING, I WANT TO BRING -- THIS HAPPENED IN ITALY, I WANT TO BRING ITS IMPACT HOME BRING -- THIS HAPPENED IN ITALY, I WANT TO BRING ITS IMPACT HOME TO CATHOLICS HERE IN THE UNITED I WANT TO BRING ITS IMPACT HOME TO CATHOLICS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND TO SOCIAL ISSUES HERE TO CATHOLICS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND TO SOCIAL ISSUES HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

STATES AND TO SOCIAL ISSUES HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> SURE.

IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> SURE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT >> SURE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT CONTROVERSIAL THAT HE SAID TO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT CONTROVERSIAL THAT HE SAID TO LOOK AT THE REST OF THE BIBLE CONTROVERSIAL THAT HE SAID TO LOOK AT THE REST OF THE BIBLE AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES AND THE LOOK AT THE REST OF THE BIBLE AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES AND THE TEN COMMANDMENTS THAT GOD GAVE.

AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES AND THE TEN COMMANDMENTS THAT GOD GAVE.

THOSE THINGS THOUGHT IN THE TEN TEN COMMANDMENTS THAT GOD GAVE.

THOSE THINGS THOUGHT IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, WHY SO THOSE THINGS THOUGHT IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, WHY SO CONTROVERSIAL TO SAY THAT WE COMMANDMENTS, WHY SO CONTROVERSIAL TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT LIES AND CONTROVERSIAL TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT LIES AND CHEATING AND STEALING AND COVET NEED TO LOOK AT LIES AND CHEATING AND STEALING AND COVET AND THE REST OF THE COMMANDMENTS CHEATING AND STEALING AND COVET AND THE REST OF THE COMMANDMENTS WE WERE CONSIDERING THE THINGS AND THE REST OF THE COMMANDMENTS WE WERE CONSIDERING THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING TO LIVE GOOD WE WERE CONSIDERING THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING TO LIVE GOOD CHRISTIAN LIFE.

WE SHOULD BE DOING TO LIVE GOOD CHRISTIAN LIFE.

>> IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ROMAN CHRISTIAN LIFE.

>> IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC HIERARCHY WHICH IS ALL >> IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC HIERARCHY WHICH IS ALL MALE IT ABSOLUTELY IS CATHOLIC HIERARCHY WHICH IS ALL MALE IT ABSOLUTELY IS CONTROVERSIAL.

MALE IT ABSOLUTELY IS CONTROVERSIAL.

HE HAD A BISHOP SPEAKING OUT CONTROVERSIAL.

HE HAD A BISHOP SPEAKING OUT JUST IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS HE HAD A BISHOP SPEAKING OUT JUST IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS SAYING, WHY ISN'T HE FOCUSING JUST IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS SAYING, WHY ISN'T HE FOCUSING MORE ON ABORTION.

SAYING, WHY ISN'T HE FOCUSING MORE ON ABORTION.

THAT IS INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MORE ON ABORTION.

THAT IS INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF INSUBORDINATION WITHIN THE THAT IS INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF INSUBORDINATION WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT IS THE POPE INSUBORDINATION WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT IS THE POPE IS BEING CHALLENGED ALSO CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT IS THE POPE IS BEING CHALLENGED ALSO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

IS BEING CHALLENGED ALSO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT MOVING THIS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT MOVING THIS IN TO DEEDS AND NOT WORDS, WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT MOVING THIS IN TO DEEDS AND NOT WORDS, WHAT ARE CONCRETE THINGS THAT THE IN TO DEEDS AND NOT WORDS, WHAT ARE CONCRETE THINGS THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC HIERARCHY COULD ARE CONCRETE THINGS THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC HIERARCHY COULD DO TO FOLLOW THE PATH SET ROMAN CATHOLIC HIERARCHY COULD DO TO FOLLOW THE PATH SET FORWARD.

DO TO FOLLOW THE PATH SET FORWARD.

>> WILL THE HIERARCHY WHO ARE FORWARD.

>> WILL THE HIERARCHY WHO ARE THE CHILDREN, IF YOU WILL, OF >> WILL THE HIERARCHY WHO ARE THE CHILDREN, IF YOU WILL, OF BENEDICT AND POPE JOHN PAUL II THE CHILDREN, IF YOU WILL, OF BENEDICT AND POPE JOHN PAUL II WHO WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON BENEDICT AND POPE JOHN PAUL II WHO WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THESE ISSUES, WILL THEY CHANGE, WHO WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THESE ISSUES, WILL THEY CHANGE, BECAUSE I HAVE FRIEND WHO LEFT THESE ISSUES, WILL THEY CHANGE, BECAUSE I HAVE FRIEND WHO LEFT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH JUST A BECAUSE I HAVE FRIEND WHO LEFT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE A THE CATHOLIC CHURCH JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE A YOUNG POST WHO HAD JUST COME TO COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE A YOUNG POST WHO HAD JUST COME TO TAKE OVER HER VERY IN FLEW YOUNG POST WHO HAD JUST COME TO TAKE OVER HER VERY IN FLEW ENARISH IN VIRGINIA CAME IN WENT TAKE OVER HER VERY IN FLEW ENARISH IN VIRGINIA CAME IN WENT AROUND THE ROOM SAID WHO UP HERE ENARISH IN VIRGINIA CAME IN WENT AROUND THE ROOM SAID WHO UP HERE IS USING BIRTH CONTROL RAISE AROUND THE ROOM SAID WHO UP HERE IS USING BIRTH CONTROL RAISE YOUR HANDS, YOU KNOW WHO YOU IS USING BIRTH CONTROL RAISE YOUR HANDS, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

YOUR HANDS, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND WHO WERE ARE.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND WHO WERE ALREADY HAVE THEIR TWO KIDS SHE AND HER HUSBAND WHO WERE ALREADY HAVE THEIR TWO KIDS WEREN'T -- JUST WASN'T RELEVANT.

ALREADY HAVE THEIR TWO KIDS WEREN'T -- JUST WASN'T RELEVANT.

THEY SAID WE GOT TO GET OUT OF WEREN'T -- JUST WASN'T RELEVANT.

THEY SAID WE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE.

THEY SAID WE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE.

>> AND 98% OF CATHOLICS USE HERE.

>> AND 98% OF CATHOLICS USE CONTRACEPTION AT SOME POINT IN >> AND 98% OF CATHOLICS USE CONTRACEPTION AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES WHICH IS 99% OF CONTRACEPTION AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES WHICH IS 99% OF EVERYONE ELSE.

THEIR LIVES WHICH IS 99% OF EVERYONE ELSE.

SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO NORMAL EVERYONE ELSE.

SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO NORMAL PATTERNS.

SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO NORMAL PATTERNS.

BUT THE FACT IS THAT A NUMBER OF PATTERNS.

BUT THE FACT IS THAT A NUMBER OF CATHOLICS HAVE BELIEVE, ONE IN BUT THE FACT IS THAT A NUMBER OF CATHOLICS HAVE BELIEVE, ONE IN TEN PEOPLE IDENTIFIED AS CATHOLICS HAVE BELIEVE, ONE IN TEN PEOPLE IDENTIFIED AS EX-CATHOLIC.

TEN PEOPLE IDENTIFIED AS EX-CATHOLIC.

SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT -- EX-CATHOLIC.

SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT -- >> IS THIS MESSAGE AIMED AT SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT -- >> IS THIS MESSAGE AIMED AT THEM?

>> IS THIS MESSAGE AIMED AT THEM?

>> OF COURSE.

THEM?

>> OF COURSE.

BUT THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE >> OF COURSE.

BUT THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE CATHOLIC BISHOP TAKE IT BUT THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE CATHOLIC BISHOP TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OR STOP TRYING -- CATHOLIC BISHOP TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OR STOP TRYING -- >> I DON'T THINK THAT -- SERIOUSLY OR STOP TRYING -- >> I DON'T THINK THAT -- >> LET ME SEEK TO YOUR POINT, AN >> I DON'T THINK THAT -- >> LET ME SEEK TO YOUR POINT, AN IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT, FIRST OF >> LET ME SEEK TO YOUR POINT, AN IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT, FIRST OF ALL I THINK THE WORDS FROM A IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT, FIRST OF ALL I THINK THE WORDS FROM A POPE ARE AMAZING AND THIS IS ALL I THINK THE WORDS FROM A POPE ARE AMAZING AND THIS IS AUTHORITARIAN CHURCH.

POPE ARE AMAZING AND THIS IS AUTHORITARIAN CHURCH.

I WOULDN'T PUT WORDS TO THE AUTHORITARIAN CHURCH.

I WOULDN'T PUT WORDS TO THE SIDE.

I WOULDN'T PUT WORDS TO THE SIDE.

I TAKE THIS NOTION ABOUT ACTION.

SIDE.

I TAKE THIS NOTION ABOUT ACTION.

I THINK THIS POPE HAS ACT IN I TAKE THIS NOTION ABOUT ACTION.

I THINK THIS POPE HAS ACT IN KEEPING WITH THESE WORDS.

I THINK THIS POPE HAS ACT IN KEEPING WITH THESE WORDS.

HE DRIVES AROUND IN A SMALL CAR, KEEPING WITH THESE WORDS.

HE DRIVES AROUND IN A SMALL CAR, DOES NOT LIVE IN THE BIG PALACE HE DRIVES AROUND IN A SMALL CAR, DOES NOT LIVE IN THE BIG PALACE WHERE THE POPES DO, WHO IS DOES NOT LIVE IN THE BIG PALACE WHERE THE POPES DO, WHO IS REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE IN EVERY WHERE THE POPES DO, WHO IS REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE WAY.

REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE WAY.

>> WASHING THE FEET OF THE POOR.

CONCEIVABLE WAY.

>> WASHING THE FEET OF THE POOR.

>> EVEN MORE SO THAN ANY -- ANY >> WASHING THE FEET OF THE POOR.

>> EVEN MORE SO THAN ANY -- ANY CARDINAL FOR THAT MATTER.

>> EVEN MORE SO THAN ANY -- ANY CARDINAL FOR THAT MATTER.

HE'S FIRST LIVING IT, BY CARDINAL FOR THAT MATTER.

HE'S FIRST LIVING IT, BY EXAMPLE.

HE'S FIRST LIVING IT, BY EXAMPLE.

REMEMBER, WHO THIS IS.

EXAMPLE.

REMEMBER, WHO THIS IS.

THIS IS A FIRST JESUIT POPE.

REMEMBER, WHO THIS IS.

THIS IS A FIRST JESUIT POPE.

THE JESUITS IS THE GREAT THIS IS A FIRST JESUIT POPE.

THE JESUITS IS THE GREAT INTELLECTUALS OF THE CATHOLIC THE JESUITS IS THE GREAT INTELLECTUALS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HE LIVED IN THE REAL INTELLECTUALS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HE LIVED IN THE REAL WORLD AND HE HAS HAD THAT REAL CHURCH HE LIVED IN THE REAL WORLD AND HE HAS HAD THAT REAL WORLDCOM UP TO HIM IN LATIN WORLD AND HE HAS HAD THAT REAL WORLDCOM UP TO HIM IN LATIN AMERICA AND HE'S TRYING TO WORLDCOM UP TO HIM IN LATIN AMERICA AND HE'S TRYING TO INTERNALIZE THAT AS POPE AND -- AMERICA AND HE'S TRYING TO INTERNALIZE THAT AS POPE AND -- WHATEVER ELSE HE DOES HE IS INTERNALIZE THAT AS POPE AND -- WHATEVER ELSE HE DOES HE IS GOING TO BE SEEN AS A GREAT WHATEVER ELSE HE DOES HE IS GOING TO BE SEEN AS A GREAT HUMAN BEING.

GOING TO BE SEEN AS A GREAT HUMAN BEING.

>> LAST WORD.

HUMAN BEING.

>> LAST WORD.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY >> LAST WORD.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHY I >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHY I LOVE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WE WERE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHY I LOVE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, NOTHING TO LOVE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISSUES BECAUSE IN TALKING ABOUT THIS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISSUES BECAUSE IN HIGH SCHOOL THE YOUTH GROUPS DO WITH THE ISSUES BECAUSE IN HIGH SCHOOL THE YOUTH GROUPS THAT THE OTHER CHURCHES WERE -- HIGH SCHOOL THE YOUTH GROUPS THAT THE OTHER CHURCHES WERE -- >> DO YOU THINK THESE CHANGES THAT THE OTHER CHURCHES WERE -- >> DO YOU THINK THESE CHANGES WILL DO ANYTHING TO BRING FALLEN >> DO YOU THINK THESE CHANGES WILL DO ANYTHING TO BRING FALLEN AWAY CATHOLIC BACK TO THE WILL DO ANYTHING TO BRING FALLEN AWAY CATHOLIC BACK TO THE CHURCHES IN THE UNITED STATES?

AWAY CATHOLIC BACK TO THE CHURCHES IN THE UNITED STATES?

>> YES, I THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE CHURCHES IN THE UNITED STATES?

>> YES, I THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE THAT HIM SAYING THAT THEY WERE >> YES, I THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE THAT HIM SAYING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO START FOCUSING ON THESE THAT HIM SAYING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO START FOCUSING ON THESE OTHER ISSUES MAYBE LESS DIVISIVE GOING TO START FOCUSING ON THESE OTHER ISSUES MAYBE LESS DIVISIVE ISSUES COULD.

OTHER ISSUES MAYBE LESS DIVISIVE ISSUES COULD.

>> I THAT I IS THE THRUST THAT ISSUES COULD.

>> I THAT I IS THE THRUST THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT FOCUS.

>> I THAT I IS THE THRUST THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT FOCUS.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING HE'S TALKING ABOUT FOCUS.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING THIS ISSUE AS PART OF BROADER HE'S TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING THIS ISSUE AS PART OF BROADER FOCUS.

THIS ISSUE AS PART OF BROADER FOCUS.

I DON'T THINK HE'S SUGGESTING FOCUS.

I DON'T THINK HE'S SUGGESTING THAT THE CHURCH'S POSITION IS I DON'T THINK HE'S SUGGESTING THAT THE CHURCH'S POSITION IS CHANGING, IN FACT HE SAYS THAT THAT THE CHURCH'S POSITION IS CHANGING, IN FACT HE SAYS THAT THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH ARE CHANGING, IN FACT HE SAYS THAT THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH ARE CLEAR.

THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH ARE CLEAR.

>> ONE QUICK QUESTION.

CLEAR.

>> ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WILL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES IN THE >> ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WILL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES IN THE UNITED STATES WHO HAVE MADE WILL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES IN THE UNITED STATES WHO HAVE MADE OBVIOUSLY A HUGE FOCUS, PLACED A UNITED STATES WHO HAVE MADE OBVIOUSLY A HUGE FOCUS, PLACED A HUGE FOCUS ON ABORTION, GAY OBVIOUSLY A HUGE FOCUS, PLACED A HUGE FOCUS ON ABORTION, GAY RIGHTS, WILL THEY BE LISTENING.

HUGE FOCUS ON ABORTION, GAY RIGHTS, WILL THEY BE LISTENING.

>> YOU KNOW, I WOULD PUSH BACK RIGHTS, WILL THEY BE LISTENING.

>> YOU KNOW, I WOULD PUSH BACK ON THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT >> YOU KNOW, I WOULD PUSH BACK ON THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN I ATTEND ON THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN I ATTEND CHURCH HOST SUNDAYS WHEN I CAN.

BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN I ATTEND CHURCH HOST SUNDAYS WHEN I CAN.

IT'S VERY RARE I DON'T THINK CHURCH HOST SUNDAYS WHEN I CAN.

IT'S VERY RARE I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARDER IS MACHINE OR IT'S VERY RARE I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARDER IS MACHINE OR HOMOSEXUALITY OR -- I HEAR I'VE EVER HEARDER IS MACHINE OR HOMOSEXUALITY OR -- I HEAR SERMONS OF THE LOVE OF JESUS HOMOSEXUALITY OR -- I HEAR SERMONS OF THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST AND HOW THAT PERVADES SERMONS OF THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST AND HOW THAT PERVADES EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE.

CHRIST AND HOW THAT PERVADES EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT TRULY THE EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT TRULY THE FOCUS OF THE CHURCHES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT TRULY THE FOCUS OF THE CHURCHES.

THINK THAT OUR MEDIA -- FOCUS OF THE CHURCHES.

THINK THAT OUR MEDIA -- >> IT VARIES CHURCH TO CHURCH.

THINK THAT OUR MEDIA -- >> IT VARIES CHURCH TO CHURCH.

I'VE BEEN GUESTS AT CHURCHES >> IT VARIES CHURCH TO CHURCH.

I'VE BEEN GUESTS AT CHURCHES WHERE THAT'S ALL THEY'RE TALKING I'VE BEEN GUESTS AT CHURCHES WHERE THAT'S ALL THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WHERE THAT'S ALL THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

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FROM CHURCH DOCTRINE TO WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT.

FROM CHURCH DOCTRINE TO WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT.

AS THE U.N.

KICKS OFF ITS 68TH EMPOWERMENT.

AS THE U.N.

KICKS OFF ITS 68TH SYSTEM GENERAL ASSEMBLY THERE'S AS THE U.N.

KICKS OFF ITS 68TH SYSTEM GENERAL ASSEMBLY THERE'S LOTS OF SYSTEM GENERAL ASSEMBLY THERE'S LOTS OF SPECULATION ABOUT A POSSIBLE LOTS OF SPECULATION ABOUT A POSSIBLE MEETING OF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SPECULATION ABOUT A POSSIBLE MEETING OF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND IRAN'S NEW PRESIDENT.

MEETING OF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND IRAN'S NEW PRESIDENT.

BUT OUR FOCUS IS HOW AND WHY IRAN'S NEW PRESIDENT.

BUT OUR FOCUS IS HOW AND WHY THIS WILL BE A PIVOTAL SESSION BUT OUR FOCUS IS HOW AND WHY THIS WILL BE A PIVOTAL SESSION FOR WOMEN.

THIS WILL BE A PIVOTAL SESSION FOR WOMEN.

THE SESSION'S THEME IS "THE FOR WOMEN.

THE SESSION'S THEME IS "THE POST-2015 DEVELOPMENT AGENDA."

THE SESSION'S THEME IS "THE POST-2015 DEVELOPMENT AGENDA."

SO NEXT WEEK MEMBER COUNTRIES, POST-2015 DEVELOPMENT AGENDA."

SO NEXT WEEK MEMBER COUNTRIES, NGOS AND PHILANTHROPISTS WILL SO NEXT WEEK MEMBER COUNTRIES, NGOS AND PHILANTHROPISTS WILL TRY TO DESIGN A WAY TO MEET THE NGOS AND PHILANTHROPISTS WILL TRY TO DESIGN A WAY TO MEET THE GLOBAL NEEDS OF WOMEN AND TRY TO DESIGN A WAY TO MEET THE GLOBAL NEEDS OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN SUCH AREAS AS GLOBAL NEEDS OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN SUCH AREAS AS HEALTHCARE, GENDER EQUALITY, CHILDREN IN SUCH AREAS AS HEALTHCARE, GENDER EQUALITY, EDUCATION AND HIV/AIDS.

HEALTHCARE, GENDER EQUALITY, EDUCATION AND HIV/AIDS.

THEY'LL ALSO BRAINSTORM EDUCATION AND HIV/AIDS.

THEY'LL ALSO BRAINSTORM STRATEGIES TO MAXIMIZE THEY'LL ALSO BRAINSTORM STRATEGIES TO MAXIMIZE CONTRIBUTIONS WOMEN AND TEENS STRATEGIES TO MAXIMIZE CONTRIBUTIONS WOMEN AND TEENS CAN MAKE TOWARDS THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS WOMEN AND TEENS CAN MAKE TOWARDS THOSE DEVELOPMENT GOALS.

CAN MAKE TOWARDS THOSE DEVELOPMENT GOALS.

CONGRESSWOMAN NORTON, THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT GOALS.

CONGRESSWOMAN NORTON, THE WHOLE WORLD'S FOCUS WILL BE ON WHETHER CONGRESSWOMAN NORTON, THE WHOLE WORLD'S FOCUS WILL BE ON WHETHER THE PRESIDENT MEETS WITH HIS WORLD'S FOCUS WILL BE ON WHETHER THE PRESIDENT MEETS WITH HIS COUNTER PART FROM IRAN AND WHAT THE PRESIDENT MEETS WITH HIS COUNTER PART FROM IRAN AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN SYRIA, THERE ARE COUNTER PART FROM IRAN AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN SYRIA, THERE ARE HUGE EVENTS GOING ON AROUND IS GOING ON IN SYRIA, THERE ARE HUGE EVENTS GOING ON AROUND WOMEN DEVELOPMENT GOALS, GENDER HUGE EVENTS GOING ON AROUND WOMEN DEVELOPMENT GOALS, GENDER EQUALITY AND GOVERNMENT AND END WOMEN DEVELOPMENT GOALS, GENDER EQUALITY AND GOVERNMENT AND END ERADICATION OF POVERTY.

EQUALITY AND GOVERNMENT AND END ERADICATION OF POVERTY.

SHOULD THOSE THINGS BE MORE OF A ERADICATION OF POVERTY.

SHOULD THOSE THINGS BE MORE OF A FOCUS AND GETTING MORE SHOULD THOSE THINGS BE MORE OF A FOCUS AND GETTING MORE ATTENTION?

FOCUS AND GETTING MORE ATTENTION?

>> WELL, THIS DEADLINE OF 2015 ATTENTION?

>> WELL, THIS DEADLINE OF 2015 THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON ISSUES OF >> WELL, THIS DEADLINE OF 2015 THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON ISSUES OF THIS KIND ARE COMING TO THE THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON ISSUES OF THIS KIND ARE COMING TO THE FORE, NEW LOADER SHIP AT THE THIS KIND ARE COMING TO THE FORE, NEW LOADER SHIP AT THE UNITED NATIONS.

FORE, NEW LOADER SHIP AT THE UNITED NATIONS.

AND I THINK THAT INCREASINGLY UNITED NATIONS.

AND I THINK THAT INCREASINGLY WE'RE SEEING THAT THE ISSUES THE AND I THINK THAT INCREASINGLY WE'RE SEEING THAT THE ISSUES THE WORLD STILL HAS TO WORK ON ARE WE'RE SEEING THAT THE ISSUES THE WORLD STILL HAS TO WORK ON ARE ISSUES THAT FLOW FROM GENDER IN WORLD STILL HAS TO WORK ON ARE ISSUES THAT FLOW FROM GENDER IN ONE PASSION OR THE OTHER.

ISSUES THAT FLOW FROM GENDER IN ONE PASSION OR THE OTHER.

THE WOMEN WHO TAKE CARE OF THE ONE PASSION OR THE OTHER.

THE WOMEN WHO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN.

THE WOMEN WHO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN.

THE CHILDREN THAT PUTS US BACK CHILDREN.

THE CHILDREN THAT PUTS US BACK TO WOMEN.

THE CHILDREN THAT PUTS US BACK TO WOMEN.

THE WOMEN WHO CANNOT CONTRIBUTE TO WOMEN.

THE WOMEN WHO CANNOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE FULL ECONOMY THERE FOR THE WOMEN WHO CANNOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE FULL ECONOMY THERE FOR LIVE IN POVERTY AND HAVE TO TO THE FULL ECONOMY THERE FOR LIVE IN POVERTY AND HAVE TO PERPETUATE POVERTY.

LIVE IN POVERTY AND HAVE TO PERPETUATE POVERTY.

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE FEMALE PERPETUATE POVERTY.

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE FEMALE FEELINGS OF ALL OF THIS, I THINK YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE FEMALE FEELINGS OF ALL OF THIS, I THINK THAT IT'S COMING TO THE FORE AT FEELINGS OF ALL OF THIS, I THINK THAT IT'S COMING TO THE FORE AT A TIME WHEN JUST COMING OUT OF THAT IT'S COMING TO THE FORE AT A TIME WHEN JUST COMING OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION AND PEOPLE A TIME WHEN JUST COMING OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION AND PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO LISTEN.

THE GREAT RECESSION AND PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO LISTEN.

>> I THINK THAT THE REAL ENEMY ARE WILLING TO LISTEN.

>> I THINK THAT THE REAL ENEMY TO WOMEN'S ADVANCEMENT ASIDE >> I THINK THAT THE REAL ENEMY TO WOMEN'S ADVANCEMENT ASIDE FROM CERTAIN GOVERNMENTS AND TO WOMEN'S ADVANCEMENT ASIDE FROM CERTAIN GOVERNMENTS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WHO ARE FROM CERTAIN GOVERNMENTS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WHO ARE TRULY ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WHO ARE TRULY ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS WOMEN'S RIGHTS IS POVERTY.

TRULY ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS WOMEN'S RIGHTS IS POVERTY.

WE LOOK AT WORLDWIDE POVERTY.

WOMEN'S RIGHTS IS POVERTY.

WE LOOK AT WORLDWIDE POVERTY.

>> AND LACK OF EDZ WE KNOW THAT WE LOOK AT WORLDWIDE POVERTY.

>> AND LACK OF EDZ WE KNOW THAT THE REAL HURDLE IN THE WAY OF >> AND LACK OF EDZ WE KNOW THAT THE REAL HURDLE IN THE WAY OF POVERTY IS A LACK OF FREE THE REAL HURDLE IN THE WAY OF POVERTY IS A LACK OF FREE ENTERPRISE.

POVERTY IS A LACK OF FREE ENTERPRISE.

FREE ENTERPRISE HAS DONE MORE TO ENTERPRISE.

FREE ENTERPRISE HAS DONE MORE TO BRING PEOPLE OUT OF THE POVERTY FREE ENTERPRISE HAS DONE MORE TO BRING PEOPLE OUT OF THE POVERTY THAN ANY GOVERNMENT SYSTEM AND BRING PEOPLE OUT OF THE POVERTY THAN ANY GOVERNMENT SYSTEM AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE U.N. THAN ANY GOVERNMENT SYSTEM AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE U.N. REALLY CONSIDER PART OF THEIR SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE U.N. REALLY CONSIDER PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND INCREASING REALLY CONSIDER PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND INCREASING ACCESS TO FREE ENTERPRISE.

DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND INCREASING ACCESS TO FREE ENTERPRISE.

>> WHEN WE WERE JUST TALKING ACCESS TO FREE ENTERPRISE.

>> WHEN WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT A KINDLER, GENTLER >> WHEN WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT A KINDLER, GENTLER VATICAN, THIS IS WHERE HE CAN ABOUT A KINDLER, GENTLER VATICAN, THIS IS WHERE HE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE HE HAS VATICAN, THIS IS WHERE HE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE HE HAS HAD INTERFERENCE WITH PASSING MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE HE HAS HAD INTERFERENCE WITH PASSING TREATIES THAT WOULD HELP WOMEN, HAD INTERFERENCE WITH PASSING TREATIES THAT WOULD HELP WOMEN, THAT WOULD REDUCE VIOLENCE.

TREATIES THAT WOULD HELP WOMEN, THAT WOULD REDUCE VIOLENCE.

CONCERNS ABOUT CONTRACEPTION AND THAT WOULD REDUCE VIOLENCE.

CONCERNS ABOUT CONTRACEPTION AND ABORTION THIS WOULD BE WONDERFUL CONCERNS ABOUT CONTRACEPTION AND ABORTION THIS WOULD BE WONDERFUL PLACE FOR THE VATICAN TO STEP ABORTION THIS WOULD BE WONDERFUL PLACE FOR THE VATICAN TO STEP UP.

PLACE FOR THE VATICAN TO STEP UP.

>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

UP.

>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY -- WE AT "TO >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY -- WE AT "TO THE CONTRARY" COVER THE THE '94 BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY -- WE AT "TO THE CONTRARY" COVER THE THE '94 CONFERENCE ON POPULATION AND THE CONTRARY" COVER THE THE '94 CONFERENCE ON POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT.

CONFERENCE ON POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT.

PART OF WHICH WAS TO GET ACCESS DEVELOPMENT.

PART OF WHICH WAS TO GET ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL AND PART OF WHICH WAS TO GET ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL AND CONTRACEPTIVES TO WOMEN WHO TO BIRTH CONTROL AND CONTRACEPTIVES TO WOMEN WHO NEEDED IT.

CONTRACEPTIVES TO WOMEN WHO NEEDED IT.

EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD WHO NEEDED IT.

EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD WHO NEEDED IT AS WELL AS ACCESS TO EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD WHO NEEDED IT AS WELL AS ACCESS TO EDUCATION AND VATICAN CAME IN NEEDED IT AS WELL AS ACCESS TO EDUCATION AND VATICAN CAME IN AND SAID, NO, WE'RE OPPOSED TO EDUCATION AND VATICAN CAME IN AND SAID, NO, WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS AND BLOCKED IT.

AND SAID, NO, WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS AND BLOCKED IT.

>> THAT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT THIS AND BLOCKED IT.

>> THAT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT STOPS PROGRESS THAT ACCESS TO >> THAT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT STOPS PROGRESS THAT ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTION REDUCES MATERNAL STOPS PROGRESS THAT ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTION REDUCES MATERNAL MORTALITY AND BRINGS ALONG CONTRACEPTION REDUCES MATERNAL MORTALITY AND BRINGS ALONG HEALTH BENEFITS.

MORTALITY AND BRINGS ALONG HEALTH BENEFITS.

>> SUCH A COMPLICATED ISSUE.

HEALTH BENEFITS.

>> SUCH A COMPLICATED ISSUE.

OTHER THAN THE GENDER ISSUE IS >> SUCH A COMPLICATED ISSUE.

OTHER THAN THE GENDER ISSUE IS GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE OTHER THAN THE GENDER ISSUE IS GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC ISSUES, THAT HAS A LOT TO DO TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC ISSUES, THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE POLITICAL ISSUE.

ISSUES, THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE POLITICAL ISSUE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE FREE WITH THE POLITICAL ISSUE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE FREE ENTERPRISE A LOT OF TIMES IN A YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE FREE ENTERPRISE A LOT OF TIMES IN A STABLE, ECONOMIC SITUATION UNTIL ENTERPRISE A LOT OF TIMES IN A STABLE, ECONOMIC SITUATION UNTIL YOU HAVE A STABLE POLITICAL STABLE, ECONOMIC SITUATION UNTIL YOU HAVE A STABLE POLITICAL SITUATION AND THE U.N. OR THE YOU HAVE A STABLE POLITICAL SITUATION AND THE U.N. OR THE U.S. OR OTHER NATIONS CAN'T JUST SITUATION AND THE U.N. OR THE U.S. OR OTHER NATIONS CAN'T JUST BUST IN TO THE DOORS TAKE OVER U.S. OR OTHER NATIONS CAN'T JUST BUST IN TO THE DOORS TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY AND PUT IN PLACE BUST IN TO THE DOORS TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY AND PUT IN PLACE STABLE POLITICAL SITUATIONS SO THE COUNTRY AND PUT IN PLACE STABLE POLITICAL SITUATIONS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE BETTER STABLE POLITICAL SITUATIONS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE BETTER EDUCATION AND LOWER UNEMPLOYMENT THAT THEY CAN HAVE BETTER EDUCATION AND LOWER UNEMPLOYMENT AND A WHOLE OTHER HOST OF EDUCATION AND LOWER UNEMPLOYMENT AND A WHOLE OTHER HOST OF ISSUES.

AND A WHOLE OTHER HOST OF ISSUES.

>> BUT SHOULD THE U.N. BE TAKING ISSUES.

>> BUT SHOULD THE U.N. BE TAKING A STRONG STAND ON, FOR EXAMPLE, >> BUT SHOULD THE U.N. BE TAKING A STRONG STAND ON, FOR EXAMPLE, MATERNAL AND CHILD HEALTH CARE.

A STRONG STAND ON, FOR EXAMPLE, MATERNAL AND CHILD HEALTH CARE.

THERE ARE 220 MILLION WOMEN IN MATERNAL AND CHILD HEALTH CARE.

THERE ARE 220 MILLION WOMEN IN THE WORLD WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THERE ARE 220 MILLION WOMEN IN THE WORLD WHO HAVE ACCESS TO NONE OF THAT AND THERE ARE LOTS THE WORLD WHO HAVE ACCESS TO NONE OF THAT AND THERE ARE LOTS OF -- I THINK ALMOST 100,000 NONE OF THAT AND THERE ARE LOTS OF -- I THINK ALMOST 100,000 MATERNAL DEATHS IN CHILD BIRTH OF -- I THINK ALMOST 100,000 MATERNAL DEATHS IN CHILD BIRTH EVERY YEAR IN THE WORLD.

MATERNAL DEATHS IN CHILD BIRTH EVERY YEAR IN THE WORLD.

SHOULD THAT BE MORE OF AN ISSUE?

EVERY YEAR IN THE WORLD.

SHOULD THAT BE MORE OF AN ISSUE?

SHOULD THE U.N -- SHOULD THIS BE SHOULD THAT BE MORE OF AN ISSUE?

SHOULD THE U.N -- SHOULD THIS BE PART OF THE U.N.'S PORTFOLIO?

SHOULD THE U.N -- SHOULD THIS BE PART OF THE U.N.'S PORTFOLIO?

>> THAT'S WHOLE OTHER DEBATE PART OF THE U.N.'S PORTFOLIO?

>> THAT'S WHOLE OTHER DEBATE WHAT THE WON SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T >> THAT'S WHOLE OTHER DEBATE WHAT THE WON SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE DOING I THINK THE U.N.

DOES A WHAT THE WON SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE DOING I THINK THE U.N.

DOES A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DEBATE BE DOING I THINK THE U.N.

DOES A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DEBATE THAT MAYBE THE U.N.

SHOULDN'T BE LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DEBATE THAT MAYBE THE U.N.

SHOULDN'T BE GETTING INVOLVED IN.

THAT MAYBE THE U.N.

SHOULDN'T BE GETTING INVOLVED IN.

WITHOUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES GETTING INVOLVED IN.

WITHOUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING IN TO LIKE WITHOUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING IN TO LIKE THE HIV AIDS THINGS, THOSE ARE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING IN TO LIKE THE HIV AIDS THINGS, THOSE ARE VERY WONDERFUL, HIGHER EDUCATION THE HIV AIDS THINGS, THOSE ARE VERY WONDERFUL, HIGHER EDUCATION ISSUES, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT VERY WONDERFUL, HIGHER EDUCATION ISSUES, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR NATIONS TO COME TOGETHER ISSUES, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR NATIONS TO COME TOGETHER FIGURE OUT HOW WE SOLVE THOSE FOR NATIONS TO COME TOGETHER FIGURE OUT HOW WE SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.

FIGURE OUT HOW WE SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.

>> I THINK YOU LOOK AT INFANT PROBLEMS.

>> I THINK YOU LOOK AT INFANT MORTALITY OR MATERNAL HEALTH ANY >> I THINK YOU LOOK AT INFANT MORTALITY OR MATERNAL HEALTH ANY MEASURE OF HEALTH IS ALMOST MORTALITY OR MATERNAL HEALTH ANY MEASURE OF HEALTH IS ALMOST ACROSS THE BOARD BETTER OFF IN MEASURE OF HEALTH IS ALMOST ACROSS THE BOARD BETTER OFF IN COUNTRIES THAT ARE WEALTHIER AND ACROSS THE BOARD BETTER OFF IN COUNTRIES THAT ARE WEALTHIER AND COUNTRIES THAT ARE MORE COUNTRIES THAT ARE WEALTHIER AND COUNTRIES THAT ARE MORE ECONOMICALLY DEVELOPED.

COUNTRIES THAT ARE MORE ECONOMICALLY DEVELOPED.

WE TALK ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS ECONOMICALLY DEVELOPED.

WE TALK ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS IT SEEMS SEPARATED FROM HUMAN WE TALK ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS IT SEEMS SEPARATED FROM HUMAN DEVELOPMENT IT'S REALLY NOT WHEN IT SEEMS SEPARATED FROM HUMAN DEVELOPMENT IT'S REALLY NOT WHEN THESE COUNTRIES HAVE STRONGER DEVELOPMENT IT'S REALLY NOT WHEN THESE COUNTRIES HAVE STRONGER MORE STABLE ECONOMY.

THESE COUNTRIES HAVE STRONGER MORE STABLE ECONOMY.

>> JOIN US TUESDAY AT 2PM MORE STABLE ECONOMY.

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DOCUMENTARY "SAVING WOMEN AND GIRLS".

WE'LL HEAR FROM MELINDA GATES GIRLS".

WE'LL HEAR FROM MELINDA GATES AND OTHER LEADERS ABOUT THEIR WE'LL HEAR FROM MELINDA GATES AND OTHER LEADERS ABOUT THEIR COMMITMENT TO WOMEN'S AND OTHER LEADERS ABOUT THEIR COMMITMENT TO WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH, AND SHOW COMMITMENT TO WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH, AND SHOW YOU WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR WOMEN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH, AND SHOW YOU WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR WOMEN OVERSEAS WHO HAVE NO ACCESS TO YOU WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR WOMEN OVERSEAS WHO HAVE NO ACCESS TO MATERNAL HEALTH.

OVERSEAS WHO HAVE NO ACCESS TO MATERNAL HEALTH.

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BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WADJDA, THE FIRST FILM BY A SAUDI WOMAN BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WADJDA, THE FIRST FILM BY A SAUDI WOMAN AND THE FIRST FEATURE FILM SHOT THE FIRST FILM BY A SAUDI WOMAN AND THE FIRST FEATURE FILM SHOT IN SAUDI ARABIA OPENED IN AND THE FIRST FEATURE FILM SHOT IN SAUDI ARABIA OPENED IN THEATRES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THIS IN SAUDI ARABIA OPENED IN THEATRES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THIS WEEKEND.

THEATRES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THIS WEEKEND.

"TO THE CONTRARY" SPOKE WITH WEEKEND.

"TO THE CONTRARY" SPOKE WITH DIRECTOR HAIFAA AL-MANSOUR ABOUT "TO THE CONTRARY" SPOKE WITH DIRECTOR HAIFAA AL-MANSOUR ABOUT WHY AND HOW SHE WROTE AND DIRECTOR HAIFAA AL-MANSOUR ABOUT WHY AND HOW SHE WROTE AND DIRECTED THIS FILM.

WHY AND HOW SHE WROTE AND DIRECTED THIS FILM.

WADJDA IS THE STORY OF A YOUNG DIRECTED THIS FILM.

WADJDA IS THE STORY OF A YOUNG SAUDI GIRL WHO JUST WANTS TO WADJDA IS THE STORY OF A YOUNG SAUDI GIRL WHO JUST WANTS TO RIDE A BICYCLE.

SAUDI GIRL WHO JUST WANTS TO RIDE A BICYCLE.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT LOVE AND FREEDOM RIDE A BICYCLE.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT LOVE AND FREEDOM IN A SOMETIMES REPRESSIVE AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT LOVE AND FREEDOM IN A SOMETIMES REPRESSIVE AND SEXIST SOCIETY.

IN A SOMETIMES REPRESSIVE AND SEXIST SOCIETY.

>> IT'S A FILM ABOUT HOPE, ABOUT SEXIST SOCIETY.

>> IT'S A FILM ABOUT HOPE, ABOUT EMBRACING POTENTIAL, AND IT JUST >> IT'S A FILM ABOUT HOPE, ABOUT EMBRACING POTENTIAL, AND IT JUST MOVES AWAY FROM IT, AND PICTURES EMBRACING POTENTIAL, AND IT JUST MOVES AWAY FROM IT, AND PICTURES ARAB WOMEN AS VICTIMS AND MOVES AWAY FROM IT, AND PICTURES ARAB WOMEN AS VICTIMS AND HELPLESS, BECAUSE AN IMAGE LIKE ARAB WOMEN AS VICTIMS AND HELPLESS, BECAUSE AN IMAGE LIKE THIS DOES NOT CHANGE AND DOES HELPLESS, BECAUSE AN IMAGE LIKE THIS DOES NOT CHANGE AND DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE.

THIS DOES NOT CHANGE AND DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE.

AND I FELT THAT DEPICTING WOMEN NOT CONTRIBUTE.

AND I FELT THAT DEPICTING WOMEN AS SURVIVORS, AS PEOPLE WHO CAN AND I FELT THAT DEPICTING WOMEN AS SURVIVORS, AS PEOPLE WHO CAN CHANGE THEIR DESTINY IF THEY AS SURVIVORS, AS PEOPLE WHO CAN CHANGE THEIR DESTINY IF THEY WORK HARD.

CHANGE THEIR DESTINY IF THEY WORK HARD.

AND IT IS A TOUGH PLACE LIKE WORK HARD.

AND IT IS A TOUGH PLACE LIKE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD AND IT IS A TOUGH PLACE LIKE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD SOMETIMES, IT'S TOUGHER FOR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD SOMETIMES, IT'S TOUGHER FOR WOMEN FOR SURE.

SOMETIMES, IT'S TOUGHER FOR WOMEN FOR SURE.

BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GIVE WOMEN FOR SURE.

BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM THOSE INSPIRING CHARACTERS BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM THOSE INSPIRING CHARACTERS THAT ARE WILLING TO FIGHT, AND THEM THOSE INSPIRING CHARACTERS THAT ARE WILLING TO FIGHT, AND CHANGE THINGS IN THEIR FAVOR.

THAT ARE WILLING TO FIGHT, AND CHANGE THINGS IN THEIR FAVOR.

>> THE MOVIE WAS FILMED IN SAUDI CHANGE THINGS IN THEIR FAVOR.

>> THE MOVIE WAS FILMED IN SAUDI ARABIA WITH THE PARTICIPATION >> THE MOVIE WAS FILMED IN SAUDI ARABIA WITH THE PARTICIPATION AND ENDORSEMENT OF THE SAUDI ARABIA WITH THE PARTICIPATION AND ENDORSEMENT OF THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT, A VERY UNUSUAL THING AND ENDORSEMENT OF THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT, A VERY UNUSUAL THING AS THE COUNTRY IS KNOWN FOR ITS GOVERNMENT, A VERY UNUSUAL THING AS THE COUNTRY IS KNOWN FOR ITS REPRESSIVE POLICIES TOWARDS AS THE COUNTRY IS KNOWN FOR ITS REPRESSIVE POLICIES TOWARDS WOMEN.

REPRESSIVE POLICIES TOWARDS WOMEN.

AL-MANSOUR HAD TO DIRECT THE WOMEN.

AL-MANSOUR HAD TO DIRECT THE MOVIE INDIRECTLY, FROM A NEARBY AL-MANSOUR HAD TO DIRECT THE MOVIE INDIRECTLY, FROM A NEARBY VAN.

MOVIE INDIRECTLY, FROM A NEARBY VAN.

HIDDEN FROM SIGHT, SHE SAW HER VAN.

HIDDEN FROM SIGHT, SHE SAW HER CAST AND CREW ON MONITORS AND HIDDEN FROM SIGHT, SHE SAW HER CAST AND CREW ON MONITORS AND INSTRUCTED THEM VIA RADIO.

CAST AND CREW ON MONITORS AND INSTRUCTED THEM VIA RADIO.

>> FOR ME IT WAS VERY INSTRUCTED THEM VIA RADIO.

>> FOR ME IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING AND I WAS REALLY -- >> FOR ME IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING AND I WAS REALLY -- SOMETIMES I WANTED TO JUMP OUT FRUSTRATING AND I WAS REALLY -- SOMETIMES I WANTED TO JUMP OUT OF THAT VAN, AND IT'S CONFINED, SOMETIMES I WANTED TO JUMP OUT OF THAT VAN, AND IT'S CONFINED, YOU KNOW?

OF THAT VAN, AND IT'S CONFINED, YOU KNOW?

AND I WANTED REALLY TO CHANGE YOU KNOW?

AND I WANTED REALLY TO CHANGE THINGS AND FEEL THE BLOCKING AND AND I WANTED REALLY TO CHANGE THINGS AND FEEL THE BLOCKING AND CHANGE WHERE THE ACTORS ARE.

BUT THINGS AND FEEL THE BLOCKING AND CHANGE WHERE THE ACTORS ARE.

BUT I'M VERY -- I FEEL GOOD THAT I CHANGE WHERE THE ACTORS ARE.

BUT I'M VERY -- I FEEL GOOD THAT I WAS ABLE TO FILM THE FIRST FILM I'M VERY -- I FEEL GOOD THAT I WAS ABLE TO FILM THE FIRST FILM IN SAUDI.

WAS ABLE TO FILM THE FIRST FILM IN SAUDI.

AND FOR ME, IT WASN'T TO CLASH IN SAUDI.

AND FOR ME, IT WASN'T TO CLASH WITH PEOPLE AS MUCH AS TO BE AND FOR ME, IT WASN'T TO CLASH WITH PEOPLE AS MUCH AS TO BE ENGAGED WITH THE ART AND BRING WITH PEOPLE AS MUCH AS TO BE ENGAGED WITH THE ART AND BRING SOMETHING, TOLERANCE, AND FILM ENGAGED WITH THE ART AND BRING SOMETHING, TOLERANCE, AND FILM AND ALL THAT.

SOMETHING, TOLERANCE, AND FILM AND ALL THAT.

AND IF WE HAVE TO BE IN A VAN, AND ALL THAT.

AND IF WE HAVE TO BE IN A VAN, WE WILL BE IN A VAN.

AND IF WE HAVE TO BE IN A VAN, WE WILL BE IN A VAN.

IT'S OK. WE WILL BE IN A VAN.

IT'S OK.

IT'S WORTH IT.

IT'S OK.

IT'S WORTH IT.

>> AL-MANSOUR MAY HAVE BEEN IT'S WORTH IT.

>> AL-MANSOUR MAY HAVE BEEN CONFINED TO A VAN, BUT WADJDA >> AL-MANSOUR MAY HAVE BEEN CONFINED TO A VAN, BUT WADJDA WAS RIDING A BICYCLE.

CONFINED TO A VAN, BUT WADJDA WAS RIDING A BICYCLE.

FOR AL-MANSOUR AND OTHER WAS RIDING A BICYCLE.

FOR AL-MANSOUR AND OTHER FILMMAKERS SUCH AS STEVEN FOR AL-MANSOUR AND OTHER FILMMAKERS SUCH AS STEVEN SPIELBERG, THE BIKE IS A FILMMAKERS SUCH AS STEVEN SPIELBERG, THE BIKE IS A POWERFUL SYMBOL.

SPIELBERG, THE BIKE IS A POWERFUL SYMBOL.

>> A LOT OF FILMS HAVE A BICYCLE POWERFUL SYMBOL.

>> A LOT OF FILMS HAVE A BICYCLE AT THE HEART AND I FELT THAT >> A LOT OF FILMS HAVE A BICYCLE AT THE HEART AND I FELT THAT THAT WILL BRING WITH IT A LOT.

AT THE HEART AND I FELT THAT THAT WILL BRING WITH IT A LOT.

IT IS ALSO ABOUT THE MOBILITY THAT WILL BRING WITH IT A LOT.

IT IS ALSO ABOUT THE MOBILITY AND FREEDOM AND BEING MODERN IN IT IS ALSO ABOUT THE MOBILITY AND FREEDOM AND BEING MODERN IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE AND FREEDOM AND BEING MODERN IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN SAUDI.

A WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN SAUDI.

THAT IS WHY I ALSO HAD A YOUNG HAVE IN SAUDI.

THAT IS WHY I ALSO HAD A YOUNG GIRL TO BE THE PROTAGONIST.

THAT IS WHY I ALSO HAD A YOUNG GIRL TO BE THE PROTAGONIST.

BECAUSE I WANT HER MOBILITY, HER GIRL TO BE THE PROTAGONIST.

BECAUSE I WANT HER MOBILITY, HER FREEDOM, I -- MAYBE I AM IN A BECAUSE I WANT HER MOBILITY, HER FREEDOM, I -- MAYBE I AM IN A VAN, BUT SHE AT LEAST CAN GO.

FREEDOM, I -- MAYBE I AM IN A VAN, BUT SHE AT LEAST CAN GO.

I CAN FILM HER WHILE SHE'S VAN, BUT SHE AT LEAST CAN GO.

I CAN FILM HER WHILE SHE'S RUNNING AND ENJOYING THE OPEN I CAN FILM HER WHILE SHE'S RUNNING AND ENJOYING THE OPEN AIR.

RUNNING AND ENJOYING THE OPEN AIR.

>> ANOTHER THEME SHE TACKLED IN AIR.

>> ANOTHER THEME SHE TACKLED IN WADJDA IS POLYGAMY.

>> ANOTHER THEME SHE TACKLED IN WADJDA IS POLYGAMY.

>> IT IS ALLOWED MEN TO TAKE UP WADJDA IS POLYGAMY.

>> IT IS ALLOWED MEN TO TAKE UP TO FOUR WIVES IN THE SOCIETY.

>> IT IS ALLOWED MEN TO TAKE UP TO FOUR WIVES IN THE SOCIETY.

SHE REFUSED TO BE A SECOND WIFE, TO FOUR WIVES IN THE SOCIETY.

SHE REFUSED TO BE A SECOND WIFE, AND SHE WOULD PREFER TO BE A SHE REFUSED TO BE A SECOND WIFE, AND SHE WOULD PREFER TO BE A SINGLE WOMAN, AND FIGHT.

AND SHE WOULD PREFER TO BE A SINGLE WOMAN, AND FIGHT.

AND IT IS HARD TO BE A SINGLE SINGLE WOMAN, AND FIGHT.

AND IT IS HARD TO BE A SINGLE WOMAN IN SAUDI.

AND IT IS HARD TO BE A SINGLE WOMAN IN SAUDI.

YOU CANNOT GO OUT WITHOUT WOMAN IN SAUDI.

YOU CANNOT GO OUT WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM A MAN.

YOU CANNOT GO OUT WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM A MAN.

BUT SHE'S WILLING TO BE THAT PERMISSION FROM A MAN.

BUT SHE'S WILLING TO BE THAT INDIVIDUAL WHO FIGHTS FOR BUT SHE'S WILLING TO BE THAT INDIVIDUAL WHO FIGHTS FOR HERSELF.

INDIVIDUAL WHO FIGHTS FOR HERSELF.

>> DESPITE WORLDWIDE ACCLAIM, HERSELF.

>> DESPITE WORLDWIDE ACCLAIM, WADJDA IS CONTROVERSIAL IN >> DESPITE WORLDWIDE ACCLAIM, WADJDA IS CONTROVERSIAL IN AL-MANSOUR'S HOME COUNTRY.

AL-MANSOUR'S HOME COUNTRY.

>> MORE TRADITIONAL PEOPLE ARE >> MORE TRADITIONAL PEOPLE ARE REALLY -- THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE >> MORE TRADITIONAL PEOPLE ARE REALLY -- THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE WOMEN MAKING A FILM OR, LIKE, REALLY -- THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE WOMEN MAKING A FILM OR, LIKE, ABOUT EMPOWERING WOMEN AND ALL WOMEN MAKING A FILM OR, LIKE, ABOUT EMPOWERING WOMEN AND ALL THAT.

ABOUT EMPOWERING WOMEN AND ALL THAT.

YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND THAT THAT.

YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND THAT RESISTANCE.

YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND THAT RESISTANCE.

BUT YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE REALLY RESISTANCE.

BUT YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE REALLY HAPPY AND THEY ARE A LOT OF THEM BUT YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE REALLY HAPPY AND THEY ARE A LOT OF THEM STUDENTS LIKE IN THE U.S. AND HAPPY AND THEY ARE A LOT OF THEM STUDENTS LIKE IN THE U.S. AND EVERYTHING AND THEY TAKE STUDENTS LIKE IN THE U.S. AND EVERYTHING AND THEY TAKE PICTURES OF THE POSTER OR EVERYTHING AND THEY TAKE PICTURES OF THE POSTER OR WHATEVER THEY ARE PASSING, AND PICTURES OF THE POSTER OR WHATEVER THEY ARE PASSING, AND THEY TWEET IT WHATEVER THEY ARE PASSING, AND THEY TWEET IT >> AL-MANSOUR GREW UP IN A THEY TWEET IT >> AL-MANSOUR GREW UP IN A MIDDLE CLASS SAUDI HOME IN A >> AL-MANSOUR GREW UP IN A MIDDLE CLASS SAUDI HOME IN A SMALL TOWN.

MIDDLE CLASS SAUDI HOME IN A SMALL TOWN.

ONE OF 12 CHILDREN, SHE WAS SMALL TOWN.

ONE OF 12 CHILDREN, SHE WAS ALLOWED ACCESS TO BOOKS, FILM ONE OF 12 CHILDREN, SHE WAS ALLOWED ACCESS TO BOOKS, FILM AND TELEVISION.

ALLOWED ACCESS TO BOOKS, FILM AND TELEVISION.

SHE SAYS SHE'S NOT TRYING TO AND TELEVISION.

SHE SAYS SHE'S NOT TRYING TO PROVOKE OR DISRESPECT THOSE WHO SHE SAYS SHE'S NOT TRYING TO PROVOKE OR DISRESPECT THOSE WHO ADHERE TO A MORE CONSERVATIVE PROVOKE OR DISRESPECT THOSE WHO ADHERE TO A MORE CONSERVATIVE CULTURE.

ADHERE TO A MORE CONSERVATIVE CULTURE.

RATHER, SHE SIMPLY WANTS TO BE CULTURE.

RATHER, SHE SIMPLY WANTS TO BE HEARD.

RATHER, SHE SIMPLY WANTS TO BE HEARD.

>> I WAS MORE OF TRYING TO TELL HEARD.

>> I WAS MORE OF TRYING TO TELL THEM AN EMOTIONAL STORY, AND >> I WAS MORE OF TRYING TO TELL THEM AN EMOTIONAL STORY, AND TELL THEM HOW IT FEELS WHEN YOU THEM AN EMOTIONAL STORY, AND TELL THEM HOW IT FEELS WHEN YOU ARE A LITTLE GIRL WHO HAS THIS TELL THEM HOW IT FEELS WHEN YOU ARE A LITTLE GIRL WHO HAS THIS AMAZING ENERGY AND STUFF, AND ARE A LITTLE GIRL WHO HAS THIS AMAZING ENERGY AND STUFF, AND MAYBE YOU CANNOT DO THINGS AMAZING ENERGY AND STUFF, AND MAYBE YOU CANNOT DO THINGS BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN, AND MAYBE YOU CANNOT DO THINGS BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN, AND HAVE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN HER.

BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN, AND HAVE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN HER.

AND MAYBE IF THEY HAVE A HAVE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN HER.

AND MAYBE IF THEY HAVE A DAUGHTER OR LIKE A SISTER THEY AND MAYBE IF THEY HAVE A DAUGHTER OR LIKE A SISTER THEY GIVE HER THAT SUPPORT.

DAUGHTER OR LIKE A SISTER THEY GIVE HER THAT SUPPORT.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE GIVE HER THAT SUPPORT.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE PANEL MANAL OMAR.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE PANEL MANAL OMAR.

HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THIS IN THE PANEL MANAL OMAR.

HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THIS IN THE WORLD OF ISLAMIC WOMEN?

HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THIS IN THE WORLD OF ISLAMIC WOMEN?

>> I CREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT.

WORLD OF ISLAMIC WOMEN?

>> I CREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT.

NOT ONLY TERMS BUT FOR SAUDI >> I CREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT.

NOT ONLY TERMS BUT FOR SAUDI ARABIA IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR NOT ONLY TERMS BUT FOR SAUDI ARABIA IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE NATION AS A WHOLE, BUT WHAT ARABIA IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE NATION AS A WHOLE, BUT WHAT I PARTICULARLY ADMIRE IS HER THE NATION AS A WHOLE, BUT WHAT I PARTICULARLY ADMIRE IS HER APPROACH, NOT TRYING TO BE I PARTICULARLY ADMIRE IS HER APPROACH, NOT TRYING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL, SHE'S NOT TRYING APPROACH, NOT TRYING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL, SHE'S NOT TRYING TO MARGINALIZE, SHE'S REALLY CONTROVERSIAL, SHE'S NOT TRYING TO MARGINALIZE, SHE'S REALLY JUST TRYING TO BE HEARD AND TO MARGINALIZE, SHE'S REALLY JUST TRYING TO BE HEARD AND BRING OUT A VERY ESSENTIAL TOPIC JUST TRYING TO BE HEARD AND BRING OUT A VERY ESSENTIAL TOPIC THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR SAUDI BRING OUT A VERY ESSENTIAL TOPIC THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR SAUDI ARABIA, IMPORTANT FOR THE REGION THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR SAUDI ARABIA, IMPORTANT FOR THE REGION AND ISLAMIC WORLD.

ARABIA, IMPORTANT FOR THE REGION AND ISLAMIC WORLD.

SHE DOING IT QUITE GRACEFULLY.

AND ISLAMIC WORLD.

SHE DOING IT QUITE GRACEFULLY.

>> TELL ME THE SIGNIFICANCE OF SHE DOING IT QUITE GRACEFULLY.

>> TELL ME THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE SAUDI ARABIA GOVERNMENT >> TELL ME THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE SAUDI ARABIA GOVERNMENT GIVING HER PERMISSION TO SHOOT THE SAUDI ARABIA GOVERNMENT GIVING HER PERMISSION TO SHOOT THE FILM THERE, THAT IS PRETTY GIVING HER PERMISSION TO SHOOT THE FILM THERE, THAT IS PRETTY WATERSHED MOMENT, TOO.

THE FILM THERE, THAT IS PRETTY WATERSHED MOMENT, TOO.

>> IT IS.

WATERSHED MOMENT, TOO.

>> IT IS.

IT'S VERY GROUND BREAKING.

>> IT IS.

IT'S VERY GROUND BREAKING.

NOT ONLY FOR WOMEN BUT I THINK IT'S VERY GROUND BREAKING.

NOT ONLY FOR WOMEN BUT I THINK FOR ALL SAUDI -- IN THE WORLD OF NOT ONLY FOR WOMEN BUT I THINK FOR ALL SAUDI -- IN THE WORLD OF ART AND FILM MAKING.

FOR ALL SAUDI -- IN THE WORLD OF ART AND FILM MAKING.

IT TAKES TO THE POINT OF WHY SHE ART AND FILM MAKING.

IT TAKES TO THE POINT OF WHY SHE HANDLE THE IT GRACEFULLY.

IT TAKES TO THE POINT OF WHY SHE HANDLE THE IT GRACEFULLY.

IT MEANS THAT IT WON'T BE BANNED HANDLE THE IT GRACEFULLY.

IT MEANS THAT IT WON'T BE BANNED INSIDE ARABIA, IT IS VERY IT MEANS THAT IT WON'T BE BANNED INSIDE ARABIA, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE VIEWING TO INSIDE ARABIA, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE VIEWING TO INITIATE CONVERSATION.

IMPORTANT TO HAVE VIEWING TO INITIATE CONVERSATION.

ALSO REALLY BRINGS A VERY INITIATE CONVERSATION.

ALSO REALLY BRINGS A VERY CRUCIAL ELEMENT WHICH IS THAT ALSO REALLY BRINGS A VERY CRUCIAL ELEMENT WHICH IS THAT WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN CIVIL SOCIETY CRUCIAL ELEMENT WHICH IS THAT WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN CIVIL SOCIETY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN CIVIL SOCIETY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANTI-GOVERNMENT.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANTI-GOVERNMENT.

YOU CAN WORK WITH GOVERNMENT TO ANTI-GOVERNMENT.

YOU CAN WORK WITH GOVERNMENT TO HAVE INCREMENTAL CHANGE WHICH I YOU CAN WORK WITH GOVERNMENT TO HAVE INCREMENTAL CHANGE WHICH I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT THING HAVE INCREMENTAL CHANGE WHICH I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR WOMEN THROUGHOUT THE ISLAMIC THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR WOMEN THROUGHOUT THE ISLAMIC WORLD.

FOR WOMEN THROUGHOUT THE ISLAMIC WORLD.

>> AND SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE WORLD.

>> AND SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE MOVIE THEATERS IN SAUDI ARABIA >> AND SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE MOVIE THEATERS IN SAUDI ARABIA HOW ARE WOMEN GOING TO SEE THIS MOVIE THEATERS IN SAUDI ARABIA HOW ARE WOMEN GOING TO SEE THIS FILM?

HOW ARE WOMEN GOING TO SEE THIS FILM?

>> I THAT I ONE OF THE THINGS FILM?

>> I THAT I ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN >> I THAT I ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN HE DID TRAIN INK SAUDI ARABIA THAT I DID A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN HE DID TRAIN INK SAUDI ARABIA WAS SURPRISED AT THE LEVEL OF HE DID TRAIN INK SAUDI ARABIA WAS SURPRISED AT THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION AND THE LEVEL OF WAS SURPRISED AT THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION AND THE LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP THAT SAUDI WOMEN EDUCATION AND THE LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP THAT SAUDI WOMEN HAVE.

LEADERSHIP THAT SAUDI WOMEN HAVE.

IT'S NO LONGER YOUR HAVE.

IT'S NO LONGER YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S GULF.

IT'S NO LONGER YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S GULF.

I THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE GRANDMOTHER'S GULF.

I THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE PRIVATE VIEWINGS, YOU'LL HAVE I THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE PRIVATE VIEWINGS, YOU'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS, SAUDI WOMEN AS SHE PRIVATE VIEWINGS, YOU'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS, SAUDI WOMEN AS SHE SAID VERY IN TOUCH WITH SOCIAL DISCUSSIONS, SAUDI WOMEN AS SHE SAID VERY IN TOUCH WITH SOCIAL HEED I CAN'T IT WILL BE A HUGE SAID VERY IN TOUCH WITH SOCIAL HEED I CAN'T IT WILL BE A HUGE PUSH OUT FOR MORE OF THE LOCAL HEED I CAN'T IT WILL BE A HUGE PUSH OUT FOR MORE OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZING STANDPOINT.

PUSH OUT FOR MORE OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZING STANDPOINT.

>> WE'VE SEEN SOME GRADUAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZING STANDPOINT.

>> WE'VE SEEN SOME GRADUAL RELAXATIONS IN SAUDI ARABIA, >> WE'VE SEEN SOME GRADUAL RELAXATIONS IN SAUDI ARABIA, WOMEN ELECTED TO WHATEVER RELAXATIONS IN SAUDI ARABIA, WOMEN ELECTED TO WHATEVER COUNCIL THERE IS, I WONDER IF WOMEN ELECTED TO WHATEVER COUNCIL THERE IS, I WONDER IF THIS IS THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT COUNCIL THERE IS, I WONDER IF THIS IS THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT SEEING THIS AS PART OF ITS THIS IS THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT SEEING THIS AS PART OF ITS CONTINUUM JUST ENOUGH BUT NOT SEEING THIS AS PART OF ITS CONTINUUM JUST ENOUGH BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND HER DELICATE CONTINUUM JUST ENOUGH BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND HER DELICATE HANDLING OF IT IN KEEPING WITH TOO MUCH AND HER DELICATE HANDLING OF IT IN KEEPING WITH THAT.

HANDLING OF IT IN KEEPING WITH THAT.

>> THE INDEPENDENT WOMEN'S FORUM THAT.

>> THE INDEPENDENT WOMEN'S FORUM WHICH YOU ARE A MEMBER OF HAS >> THE INDEPENDENT WOMEN'S FORUM WHICH YOU ARE A MEMBER OF HAS DONE A LOT TO WORK WITH ISLAMIC WHICH YOU ARE A MEMBER OF HAS DONE A LOT TO WORK WITH ISLAMIC WOMEN.

DONE A LOT TO WORK WITH ISLAMIC WOMEN.

WHAT'S THE REACTION FROM WOMEN.

WHAT'S THE REACTION FROM CONSERVATIVE WOMEN?

WHAT'S THE REACTION FROM CONSERVATIVE WOMEN?

>> I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS CONSERVATIVE WOMEN?

>> I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS FILM.

>> I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS FILM.

I HOPE THAT IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FILM.

I HOPE THAT IT HAS IMPLICATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES AS WELL.

I HOPE THAT IT HAS IMPLICATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES AS WELL.

I HOPE THAT MANY AMERICANS GET A IN THE UNITED STATES AS WELL.

I HOPE THAT MANY AMERICANS GET A CHANCE TO SEE THIS FILM FOR I HOPE THAT MANY AMERICANS GET A CHANCE TO SEE THIS FILM FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

CHANCE TO SEE THIS FILM FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE I THINK IT'S A REFRESHING SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE I THINK IT'S A REFRESHING PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE WORLD AND ONE I THINK IT'S A REFRESHING PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE WORLD AND THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN OTHER PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE WORLD AND THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND IT HELPS US TO THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND IT HELPS US TO RECOGNIZE HOW BLESSED WE ARE TO COUNTRIES AND IT HELPS US TO RECOGNIZE HOW BLESSED WE ARE TO BE AMERICAN WOMEN.

RECOGNIZE HOW BLESSED WE ARE TO BE AMERICAN WOMEN.

AND SECONDLY, ALSO IMPORTANT, BE AMERICAN WOMEN.

AND SECONDLY, ALSO IMPORTANT, THE MAKERS OF THIS FILM WE HAVE AND SECONDLY, ALSO IMPORTANT, THE MAKERS OF THIS FILM WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN FROM THEM.

THE MAKERS OF THIS FILM WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN FROM THEM.

AS AMERICAN WOMEN.

A LOT TO LEARN FROM THEM.

AS AMERICAN WOMEN.

BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD IN THE AS AMERICAN WOMEN.

BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD IN THE INTERVIEW THE DIRECTOR SAYS BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD IN THE INTERVIEW THE DIRECTOR SAYS VICTIM HOOD MENTALITY DON'T INTERVIEW THE DIRECTOR SAYS VICTIM HOOD MENTALITY DON'T ADVANCE WOMEN.

VICTIM HOOD MENTALITY DON'T ADVANCE WOMEN.

>> I THINK IT'S INSPIRATION ADVANCE WOMEN.

>> I THINK IT'S INSPIRATION TALL, THE FILM MAKER HERSELF IS >> I THINK IT'S INSPIRATION TALL, THE FILM MAKER HERSELF IS ALSO INSTAR OPERATIONAL.

TALL, THE FILM MAKER HERSELF IS ALSO INSTAR OPERATIONAL.

THERE ARE DEEPER TRUTHS.

ALSO INSTAR OPERATIONAL.

THERE ARE DEEPER TRUTHS.

EVERY SINGLE TIME A WOMAN TAKES THERE ARE DEEPER TRUTHS.

EVERY SINGLE TIME A WOMAN TAKES A DEEP BREATH AND TELLS A STORY EVERY SINGLE TIME A WOMAN TAKES A DEEP BREATH AND TELLS A STORY OF WOMEN LIKE HER, I BELIEVE A DEEP BREATH AND TELLS A STORY OF WOMEN LIKE HER, I BELIEVE THAT HAS RADICAL POWER TO OF WOMEN LIKE HER, I BELIEVE THAT HAS RADICAL POWER TO ADVANCE SOCIETY.

THAT HAS RADICAL POWER TO ADVANCE SOCIETY.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ADVANCE SOCIETY.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS FILM.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS FILM.

IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL.

THIS FILM.

IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL.

>> YOU'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL.

>> YOU'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN WOMEN'S MOVEMENT YOUR >> YOU'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN WOMEN'S MOVEMENT YOUR WHOLE CAREER AND YOU WORKED IT, AMERICAN WOMEN'S MOVEMENT YOUR WHOLE CAREER AND YOU WORKED IT, THE AMERICAN WOMEN'S MOVEMENT WHOLE CAREER AND YOU WORKED IT, THE AMERICAN WOMEN'S MOVEMENT WAS LOT MORE OPEN, IN YOUR FACE, THE AMERICAN WOMEN'S MOVEMENT WAS LOT MORE OPEN, IN YOUR FACE, IN THE '60S AND '70s, BRA WAS LOT MORE OPEN, IN YOUR FACE, IN THE '60S AND '70s, BRA BURNING.

IN THE '60S AND '70s, BRA BURNING.

BUT ARE THERE PARALLELS BETWEEN BURNING.

BUT ARE THERE PARALLELS BETWEEN OUR WOMEN'S MOVEMENT AND BUT ARE THERE PARALLELS BETWEEN OUR WOMEN'S MOVEMENT AND THEIR'S?

OUR WOMEN'S MOVEMENT AND THEIR'S?

>> I BELIEVE THERE ARE.

THEIR'S?

>> I BELIEVE THERE ARE.

IN FACT IT GOES BACK TO THAT >> I BELIEVE THERE ARE.

IN FACT IT GOES BACK TO THAT TRUTH OF TELLING YOUR STORY IN FACT IT GOES BACK TO THAT TRUTH OF TELLING YOUR STORY WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TRUTH OF TELLING YOUR STORY WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH MAYBE SOME MORE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH MAYBE SOME MORE CONTROVERSIAL FEMINIST FROM THE HAPPENED WITH MAYBE SOME MORE CONTROVERSIAL FEMINIST FROM THE PAST.

CONTROVERSIAL FEMINIST FROM THE PAST.

THERE WAS ALSO ONE, IS THAT PAST.

THERE WAS ALSO ONE, IS THAT DIDN'T TAKE THAT CONFRONTATION THERE WAS ALSO ONE, IS THAT DIDN'T TAKE THAT CONFRONTATION TALL APPROACH JUST LIKE TODAY DIDN'T TAKE THAT CONFRONTATION TALL APPROACH JUST LIKE TODAY THERE ARE FEMINIST WHO TAKE A TALL APPROACH JUST LIKE TODAY THERE ARE FEMINIST WHO TAKE A VERY CONTROVERSIAL APPROACH THERE ARE FEMINIST WHO TAKE A VERY CONTROVERSIAL APPROACH THERE ARE MANY OF US WHO JUST VERY CONTROVERSIAL APPROACH THERE ARE MANY OF US WHO JUST SIMPLY ARE SHARING OUR STORIES THERE ARE MANY OF US WHO JUST SIMPLY ARE SHARING OUR STORIES AND PUSHING FOR CHANGE.

SIMPLY ARE SHARING OUR STORIES AND PUSHING FOR CHANGE.

>> BUT I THINK THAT -- EACH IS AND PUSHING FOR CHANGE.

>> BUT I THINK THAT -- EACH IS EMERGING IN THE CONTEXT OF OWN >> BUT I THINK THAT -- EACH IS EMERGING IN THE CONTEXT OF OWN CULTURE AND WHAT WORKS BEST.

EMERGING IN THE CONTEXT OF OWN CULTURE AND WHAT WORKS BEST.

I THINK THAT THE APPROACH THAT CULTURE AND WHAT WORKS BEST.

I THINK THAT THE APPROACH THAT AMERICAN WOMEN TOOK IN THE '60S I THINK THAT THE APPROACH THAT AMERICAN WOMEN TOOK IN THE '60S WERE DIRECTLY WITH OUR CULTURE.

AMERICAN WOMEN TOOK IN THE '60S WERE DIRECTLY WITH OUR CULTURE.

JUST AS WHAT HAPPENED IN SAUDI WERE DIRECTLY WITH OUR CULTURE.

JUST AS WHAT HAPPENED IN SAUDI ARABIA MATCHES HOW WOMEN WILL JUST AS WHAT HAPPENED IN SAUDI ARABIA MATCHES HOW WOMEN WILL GRADUALLY GET THEIR FREEDOM ARABIA MATCHES HOW WOMEN WILL GRADUALLY GET THEIR FREEDOM THERE.

GRADUALLY GET THEIR FREEDOM THERE.

>> UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CURRENT THERE.

>> UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CURRENT KING OF SAUDI ARABIA IS VERY >> UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CURRENT KING OF SAUDI ARABIA IS VERY SYMPATHETIC FROM THAT CULTURAL KING OF SAUDI ARABIA IS VERY SYMPATHETIC FROM THAT CULTURAL PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO VERY OLD SYMPATHETIC FROM THAT CULTURAL PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO VERY OLD AND A LOT OF WOMEN LEADERS, PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO VERY OLD AND A LOT OF WOMEN LEADERS, ISLAMIC FEMINISTS ARE WORRIED AND A LOT OF WOMEN LEADERS, ISLAMIC FEMINISTS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER IS GOING TO HAPPEN ISLAMIC FEMINISTS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN HE PASSES.

ABOUT WHETHER IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN HE PASSES.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

WHEN HE PASSES.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S TRUE.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S TRUE.

ONE THING IS, THE SAUDI WOMEN >> I THINK THAT'S TRUE.

ONE THING IS, THE SAUDI WOMEN HAVE BEEN IN CREDIT IN BELOW ONE THING IS, THE SAUDI WOMEN HAVE BEEN IN CREDIT IN BELOW BOLD, LET'S NOT FORGET THE HAVE BEEN IN CREDIT IN BELOW BOLD, LET'S NOT FORGET THE PROTESTS WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN BOLD, LET'S NOT FORGET THE PROTESTS WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN DRIVING IN PUBLIC WHICH MAY NOT PROTESTS WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN DRIVING IN PUBLIC WHICH MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL, BUT THERE DRIVING IN PUBLIC WHICH MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL, BUT THERE IS VERY VOCAL AND BOLD HOOCH.

SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL, BUT THERE IS VERY VOCAL AND BOLD HOOCH.

A MULTI-DIRECTIONAL APPROACH IS IS VERY VOCAL AND BOLD HOOCH.

A MULTI-DIRECTIONAL APPROACH IS VERY IMPORTANT IT COMPLIMENTS A MULTI-DIRECTIONAL APPROACH IS VERY IMPORTANT IT COMPLIMENTS OTHER APPROACHES WHICH MAY NOT VERY IMPORTANT IT COMPLIMENTS OTHER APPROACHES WHICH MAY NOT BE AS CONTROVERSIAL.

OTHER APPROACHES WHICH MAY NOT BE AS CONTROVERSIAL.

I THINK THAT IMPORTANCE IS THE BE AS CONTROVERSIAL.

I THINK THAT IMPORTANCE IS THE GRASS ROOTS SO THAT SUPPORT THAT I THINK THAT IMPORTANCE IS THE GRASS ROOTS SO THAT SUPPORT THAT IS INITIATED BY THE KING WILL BE GRASS ROOTS SO THAT SUPPORT THAT IS INITIATED BY THE KING WILL BE MORE LONG LASTING THE PEOPLE ON IS INITIATED BY THE KING WILL BE MORE LONG LASTING THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND BELIEVE IN IT.

MORE LONG LASTING THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND BELIEVE IN IT.

>> THANK YOU.

THE GROUND BELIEVE IN IT.

>> THANK YOU.

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