BALL, AT THE PRESIDENT'S APPEAL FOR ACTION IN SYRIA.
WHAT NEXT?
FOR ACTION IN SYRIA.
WHAT NEXT?
TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- WHAT NEXT?
TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" -- >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN >> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION.
FABRICATED OR OR USING AS AN EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION.
I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT EXCUSE FOR MILITARY ACTION.
I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT START A WAR.
I WOULD ELECTO EN TD WARS, NOT START A WAR.
GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR START A WAR.
GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE GWEN: MAKING THE CASE FOR INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME.
INTERVENTION ABROAD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME.
>> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT AMERICAN PEOPLE AT HOME.
>> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR.
>> PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR.
GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN ASKING AMERICA TO GO TO WAR.
GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN OUT ON CAPITOL HILL.
GWEN: BUT A FIGHT HAS BROKEN OUT ON CAPITOL HILL.
>> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS OUT ON CAPITOL HILL.
>> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY >> ONLY THE UNITED STATES HAS THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN THE CAPABILITY AND THE CAPACITY TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT TO STOP ASSAD AND TO WARN OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED.
THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED.
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING GOING TO BE TOLERATED.
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD >> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF THAT I'VE HEARD THAT WOULD PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS PERSUADE ME THAT THE CONDUCT OF THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY THIS INSANE MANIAC IN SYRIA IS DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE DOING ANYTHING TO PLACE MY COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE OR NATIONAL SECURITY.
COUNTRY IN DANGER OR TO VIOLATE OR NATIONAL SECURITY.
GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES OR NATIONAL SECURITY.
GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO GWEN: AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO FACES BASIC POLITICAL FOR A NATIONAL ADDRESS, HE ALSO FACES BASIC POLITICAL QUESTIONS.
FACES BASIC POLITICAL QUESTIONS.
>> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY QUESTIONS.
>> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY THE LINE.
>> MY CREDIBILITY IS NOT ONLY THE LINE.
THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S THE LINE.
THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE.
THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE.
AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE.
AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE AMERICA AND CONGRESS'S CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE NOTION THAT THESE BECAUSE WE GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE NOTION THAT THESE INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE THE NOTION THAT THESE INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE IMPORTANT.
INTERNATIONAL ENORMOUS ARE IMPORTANT.
GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE IMPORTANT.
GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE PUBLIC BE PERSUADED?
GWEN: BUT CAN CONGRESS OR THE PUBLIC BE PERSUADED?
COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS PUBLIC BE PERSUADED?
COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON COVERING THE WEEK, SUSAN DAVIS OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS OF "USA TODAY," JOHN DICKERSON OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON OF "SLATE" MAGAZINE AND CBS NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE NEWS, ED ED OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES."
POST" AND DAVID SANGER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES."
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND NEW YORK TIMES."
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS.
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS.
COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
ANALYSIS.
COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN IFILL."
ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A THIS HAS BEEN A PERPLEXING WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS.
FOR THE PRESIDENT AND A CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS.
THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS CHALLENGING ONE FOR CONGRESS.
THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAS DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR STRIKE SYRIA IN ORDER TO PUNISH PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST PRESIDENT BASHAR AL-ASSAD FOR USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE.
USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE.
THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK HIS OWN PEOPLE.
THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK HIM UP.
THEN HE ASDKE CONGRESS TO BACK HIM UP.
AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH HIM UP.
AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS AT FIRST, LEADERS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS CLIMBED ONBOARD.
PARTIES AND BOTH CHAMBERS CLIMBED ONBOARD.
>> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE CLIMBED ONBOARD.
>> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK >> ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION MADE THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO THIS CALL, THOUGH, I THINK THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A THERE IS A REAL NEED FOR US TO BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A PAPER TIGER.
BACK IT UP OR AMERICA BECOMES A PAPER TIGER.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD PAPER TIGER.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND STRIKE.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND STRIKE.
AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR AND STRIKE.
AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK AND IT CAN'T BE ONE JUST DAY OR TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK MISSILES.
TWO OR THREE DAYS OF TOMAHAWK MISSILES.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR MISSILES.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT'S WAR CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL.
>> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S CABINET WENT TO CAPITOL HILL.
>> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND MILITARY >> HAVING DEFINED AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND MILITARY OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST INTERESTS AND MILITARY OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST EXAMINE THE RISKS AND OBJECTIVES, WE ALMOST MUST EXAMINE THE RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL EXAMINE THE RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF CONSEQUENCES OF ACTION AS WELL AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF INACTION.
AS THE CONSEQUENCES OF INACTION.
GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS INACTION.
GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO GWEN: BUT TONIGHT, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO CONSERVATIVES REMAIN OF CONGRESS FROM LIBERALS TO CONSERVATIVES REMAIN UNCONVINCED.
CONSERVATIVES REMAIN UNCONVINCED.
>> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT UNCONVINCED.
>> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.
>> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.
IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, OUR PROBLEM.
IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS.
IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS.
IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A IT'S EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS.
IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, IF YOU WANT TO GET US INTO A THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
THIRD WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
>> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
>> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT >> I DO THINK THAT MANY OF US HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE HAVE LEARNED HOW DIFFICULT IT IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE R THE UNITED STATES TO GET IS BASED ON THE IRAQ EXPERIENCE R THE UNITED STATES TO GET DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A R THE UNITED STATES TO GET DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A MILITARY ACTION.
DISENGAGED ONCE WE TAKE A MILITARY ACTION.
GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT.
MILITARY ACTION.
GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT.
WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT?
GWEN: SO ED, LET'S KEEP COUNT.
WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT?
>> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO WHERE DO WE STAND TONIGHT?
>> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE >> AS OF TONIGHT AS WE GO ONTO THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE THE AIR, ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER "WASHINGTON POST," THERE ARE 224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE.
224 LAWMAKERS THAT ARE EITHER NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO NO OR LEANING NO IN THE HOUSE.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 217 TO DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO DEFEAT A RESOLUTION WHEN IT COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE COMES BALLS THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSE.
VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSE.
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217.
HOUSE.
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217.
IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 217.
IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED.
IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED.
FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM.
JUST 15 ARE OPPOSED.
FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM.
ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A FOUR DEMOCRATS AMONG THEM.
ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED.
ANOTHER 10 ARE LEANING NO AND A MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED.
YOU TALK TO SENIOR MAJORITY ARE STILL UNDECIDED.
YOU TALK TO SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE YOU TALK TO SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONGRESSIONAL AIDES, READ THE TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND TEA LEAVES WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESPECIALLY AND HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON HERE'S A BELIEF THAT WHEN MANY LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE LEANING NO LAWMAKERS RETURN ON MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME MONDAY AND BEGIN READING THE MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED MATERIALS IT MIGHT MAKE SOME REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE REMAIN SKEPTICAL OR UNDECIDED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK.
THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK.
THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S WEEK.
THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES THERE ARE THOSE THAT SAY WHAT'S THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE THE RISKE TO THE UNITED STATES AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER AND THAT IS THE ARGUMENT THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER IN THE COMING DAYS.
PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER IN THE COMING DAYS.
GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS IN THE COMING DAYS.
GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN GWEN: IT SEEMS THAT REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE LIKE JOHN BOEHNER, WHO WAS IN SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE SUPPORT RIGHT OFF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE PRESIDENT AND THEIR BASE ARE THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT.
THE ONES ABANDONING THEM ON THE FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT.
>> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH FAR LEFT AND FAR RIGHT.
>> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO >> ONE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY BOEHNER AND ERIC CANTOR, WHO ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE ALSO CAME OUT NORTHWESTERLY SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORT IS THIS IS A CONFERENCE THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR LEADERSHIP.
FOLLOW IN LINE OF OUR LEADERSHIP.
THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND LEADERSHIP.
THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND THE IDEA THAT THE SPEAKER AND MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAJORITY WOULD GET BEHIND SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO VOTES.
SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO VOTES.
ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE TRANSLATE INTO VOTES.
ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN ON THE OPPOSITE END YOU HAVE NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN NANCY PELOSI WHICH IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER AMOUNT OF IRONY, BEING AN DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL.
DVOCATE FOR THE PULITZER PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL.
THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT PRIZEWINNER ON CAPITOL HILL.
THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' THERE'S MORE OF AN IDEA THAT THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF PRESIDENT AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MORE OF THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET THIS PASSED.
THE NUMBERS ON THE BOARD TO GET THIS PASSED.
AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE THIS PASSED.
AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY AS YOU'VE SEEN LIBERALS LIKE THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND THEY'RE ND OTHERS SAY IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE IT STAND TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO.
TODAY THAT THE HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO.
AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO TO HAVE THE VOTES TO GET TO.
AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS HAVE TO MAKE SUCH AN OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S OVERWHELMING CASE IN HIS ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF ADDRESS TO THE NATION THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF VOTES.
GOING TO HAVE TO SWING A LOT OF VOTES.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS VOTES.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS SAYING HE IS MAKING AN GWEN: THE PRESIDENT KEEPS SAYING HE IS MAKING AN OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY SAYING HE IS MAKING AN OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR OVERWHELMING CASE BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY.
THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST AND FOR ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY.
WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS ARE BREAKING DOWN CLEARLY.
WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS DEBATE?
WHAT ARE THE REASONS FOR THIS DEBATE?
WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE DEBATE?
WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE AIR?
WHY IS -- THIS SO UP IN THE AIR?
>> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT AIR?
>> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT >> I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT DO IT.
DISTINCT REASONS GIVEN TO NOT DO IT.
EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO DO IT.
EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS EVERYTHING FROM MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS MONEY AT HOME.
HAVE SAID WE NEED TO SPEND THIS MONEY AT HOME.
OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET MONEY AT HOME.
OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN OTHERS HAVE SAID THIS WILL SET OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REGION.
OFF A CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REGION.
AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REGION.
AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REASON.
AND -- CON THAT GRADUATION IN THE REASON.
I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR THE REASON.
I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR PHONES AND T, THE I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE FOR PHONES AND T, THE EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING PHONES AND T, THE EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO EMAIL INBOXES ARE OVERFLOWING WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO THIS.
WITH PEOPLE SAYING TO NOT DO THIS.
I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE THIS.
I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING I TALKED TO ONE OFFICE AND THE OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 100 TO ONE.
OTHER OFFICE I SAID IS RUNNING 100 TO ONE.
HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 100 TO ONE.
HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 800-1.
HE SAID HERE IT'S RUNNING 800-1.
PEOPLE AGAINST.
800-1.
PEOPLE AGAINST.
WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE PEOPLE AGAINST.
WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE MAJORITY?
WHY ARE THE AGAINST IN THE MAJORITY?
PEOPLE THINK IT'S MAJORITY?
PEOPLE THINK IT'S UNPREDICTABLE.
PEOPLE THINK IT'S UNPREDICTABLE.
NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE UNPREDICTABLE.
NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING A LIMITED TARGETED PRESIDENT TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING A LIMITED TARGETED STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL BEING A LIMITED TARGETED STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA.
STRIKE, THEY THINK IRAN WILL END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA.
THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS END UP RESPONDING OR RUSSIA.
THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS CAN GO BACK TO THEIR THERE'S NOTHING THE LAWMAKERS CAN GO BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY CAN GO BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY THEIR FIERCE.
CONSTITUENTS THAT WILL ALLAY THEIR FIERCE.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEIR FIERCE.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, THAT'S A BIG TASK.
THEM TO FORGET THE FEARS, THAT'S A BIG TASK.
GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE THAT'S A BIG TASK.
GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS GWEN: ONE QUESTION PEOPLE HAVE IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS REAL.
IS WHETHER THIS EVIDENCE IS REAL.
WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES REAL.
WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MAKES THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM THIS SUCH -- AND I GUESS JOHN KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN?
KERRY WANTS TO RETIRE THE TERM "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN?
>> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST "SLAM DUNK" BUT SO CERTAIN?
>> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST THE REVERSE OF IRAQ.
>> IN AN ODD WAY IT'S ALMOST THE REVERSE OF IRAQ.
IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE THE REVERSE OF IRAQ.
IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD IN IRAQ THE QUESTION WAS WERE THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE THERE WEAPONS AND NOT WHO WOULD USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE ACTUALLY THERE?
USE THEM IF THE WEAPONS ARE ACTUALLY THERE?
HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE ACTUALLY THERE?
HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE WERE WEAPONS.
HERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE WERE WEAPONS.
WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF WERE WEAPONS.
WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE WE'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY WERE ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL ATTACKS.
ASPHYXIATED IN CHEMICAL ATTACKS.
THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH ATTACKS.
THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.
THE U.S. HAS EMERGED WITH PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.
THE U.N.
INSPECTORS HAVE NOT PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.
THE U.N.
INSPECTORS HAVE NOT YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT THE U.N.
INSPECTORS HAVE NOT YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE YET FILMED THEIR EVIDENCE BUT THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S.
THE INDICATIONS ARE THEY HAVE THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. HAS.
THE SAME THING THAT THE U.S. HAS.
WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY HAS.
WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WHAT'S UNKNOWN IS WHO ACTUALLY USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE USED IT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN AS YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTACKS, WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING WHICH APPEAR TO HAVE USED SARIN GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING TO YOU.
GAS, IT'S NOT A VERY EASY THING TO YOU.
THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN TO YOU.
THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN DO IT.
THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN DO IT.
THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE DO IT.
THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN THOSE ATTACKS IN TOKYO MORE THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF THAN A DECADE AGO WERE SARIN BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN BUT IT REQUIRE AS LOT OF PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON PLANNING AND TRAINING AND IN THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THIS CASE THEY WERE LAUNCHED ON ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES ROCKETS AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE AT ALL THAT THE GAS SUPPLIES HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT.
HAVE LEFT THE HANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT.
AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE GOVERNMENT.
AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE AND THEN THE U.S. SAYS THERE ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE ARE INTERCEPTS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT NOT HEARD YET DIRECTLY SO WE KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS KIND OF TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN OR NOT OF SYRIAN COMMANDERS PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER PLANNING FOR THIS AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER THE FACT.
TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT AFTER THE FACT.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE THE FACT.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS GWEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID THE ARGUMENT THAT THE U.S. HAS SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE SAID AND THE CONGRESS HAS SAID IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET IN 2003 THAT THIS IS A LINE THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED THAT SHOULDN'T BE CROSSED, YET HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED ABOUT HIS RED LINE.
HE GETS ANNOYED WHEN HE'S ASKED ABOUT HIS RED LINE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A ABOUT HIS RED LINE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A RED LINE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SET A RED LINE.
THE WORLD SET A RED LINE.
RED LINE.
THE WORLD SET A RED LINE.
THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN THE WORLD SET A RED LINE.
THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF THE WORLD SET A RED LINE WHEN GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING 8% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE THE WORLD'S POPULATION SAID THE -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY -- F CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN ABHORRENT AND PASSED A TREATY FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR.
FOR THEIR USE EVEN WHEN COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR.
CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT COUNTRIES ARE ENGAGED IN WAR.
CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT RATIFYED THAT TREATY.
CONGRESS SET A RED LINE WHEN IT RATIFYED THAT TREATY.
GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS RATIFYED THAT TREATY.
GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS QUESTION EITHER BUT THE GWEN: HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS QUESTION EITHER BUT THE CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE QUESTION EITHER BUT THE CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS CREDIBILITY ISSUE, WHO SET THE RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS RED LINE, WHETHER CONGRESS IS CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS PROMISES.
CAPABLE OF FULFILLING ITS PROMISES.
IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING PROMISES.
IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL?
IS THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL?
>> I THINK SO.
AT CAPITOL HILL AS WELL?
>> I THINK SO.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM >> I THINK SO.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK IN THE HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE HEARINGS IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF OF DOUBT ABOUT -- BECAUSE THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF LACK OF SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY.
SUPPORT IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY.
IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN COMMUNITY.
IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD IF THERE WAS MORE OF AN INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO CONGRESS.
BE EASIER TO MAKE THE CASE TO CONGRESS.
THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN CONGRESS.
THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE THERE'SEN THE ARLINGTON -- AN ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY ARGUMENT THAT THE IMMEDIATE UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT THIS POINT.
INTERESTS ARE THREATEN END AT THIS POINT.
THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL THIS POINT.
THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON THAT IS NOT ONLY A HARD SELL FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T FOR LAWMAKERS TO THEIR CON INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT.
INSTEAD OF WENT BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT.
BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT.
BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT BE THE WE DO ACT THERE'S THE NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND?
NKNOWN QUANTITY OF IF WE REACT AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND?
AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS.
AND PEOPLE DO RESPOND?
AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS.
>> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED AND THAT SCARES LAWMAKERS.
>> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE >> YES, THE WORLD SET A RED LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED LINE IN 1925 AND AGAIN IN THE 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, 1970'S BUT THE U.S. HAS IGNORED OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ OTHER CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACKS, INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR.
INCLUDING DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR.
THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED WAR.
THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND THEN THE PRESIDENT SET A RED LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE LINE AND HE SET IT CLEARLY AND SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE.
SAID PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE.
SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE.
SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT.
SO WHILE THE WORLD SAID IT THEN BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT.
YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE BARACK OBAMA ADOPTED IT.
YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY HE DID.
YOU CAN SAY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY HE DID.
HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS WHY HE DID.
HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY.
HE TAKES WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY.
HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT DESTRUCTION SERIOUSLY.
HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S HE GOT ELECTED ON THE THOUGHT OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILES.
OF BRINGING DOWN AMERICA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILES.
WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF NUCLEAR STOCKPILES.
WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN RID OF AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS AMERICA'S CHEMICAL STOCKPILES BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS AND IT'S NOT DONE YET.
BUT IT'S TAKEN 14 OR 15 YEARS AND IT'S NOT DONE YET.
THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED AND IT'S NOT DONE YET.
THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE THE SECOND POINT IS WHAT ED RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND RAISED ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS ASSAD CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES.
HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES CAN'T REACH THE UNITED STATES.
HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES THAT CAN REACH THE U.S.
HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MISSILES THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT THAT CAN REACH THE U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT POSE AN CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY SOMETHING THAT POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THE WAY NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO, BUT HE CAN REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT REACH AMERICAN ALLIES AND IF THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S.
DOESN'T THE COUNTRY IMPLODES, WHICH IT MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S.
DOESN'T INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET MAY DO EVEN IF THE U.S.
DOESN'T INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE INTERCEDE AND THOSE WEAPONS GET LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- LOOSE, THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY'LL -- WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
WHERE THEY'LL TURN IT ELSEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
>> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
>> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE NORM AGAINST THE USE OF >> THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE NORM AGAINST THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
NORM AGAINST THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL IT'S A WORD THAT I WONDER HOW MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL WORLD.
MUCH PUFFS THAT HAS IN THE REAL WORLD.
IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS WORLD.
IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR IF THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT STOPPED, THE WHOLE FEAR OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS GET LOOSER.
OF HANDLING OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS GET LOOSER.
THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND GET LOOSER.
THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED THAT I START TO FLOAT AROUND AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED THEY COULD COME HERE.
AND OFFICIALS HAVE INTIMATED THEY COULD COME HERE.
THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND THEY COULD COME HERE.
THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S THAT'S A VERY CHARGE AND EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S ALSO A STRETCH.
EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND IT'S ALSO A STRETCH.
IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT ALSO A STRETCH.
IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF IT'S A BANK SHOT, HOW IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFMERICANS.
DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE SAFETY OF THE SECURITY OFMERICANS.
WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE THE SECURITY OFMERICANS.
WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE WE SAW IN THE RUN-UP TO THE IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A IRAQ WAR A LOT OF THIS ARGUE MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END MEN STATION WHICH FELT LIKE A STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE STRETCH AND THEN IN THE END WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH.
WHEN THE EVIDENCE WASN'T THERE REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH.
>> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING REALLY FELT LIKE A STRETCH.
>> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY.
>> LET'S FACE IT, MOVING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY.
IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS NOT EASY.
IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT IT'S EASIER IN A WAY TO MOVE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT IS CHEMICAL.
SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN IT IS CHEMICAL.
GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF IS CHEMICAL.
GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF THIS ARGUMENT.
GWEN: THAT'THES GRANOLA OF THIS ARGUMENT.
BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS THIS ARGUMENT.
BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS POLITICS?
BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS IS POLITICS?
>> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING POLITICS?
>> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS >> I THINK THE MOST FASCINATING THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL THING IS HOW SUDDENLY LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL SHEETS EVERY MORNING.
ARE LOOKING AT THEIR CALL SHEETS EVERY MORNING.
AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN.
SHEETS EVERY MORNING.
AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN.
JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM AND YOU ALLUDED TO THIS JOHN.
JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A JOHN CULBERSON, REPUBLICAN FROM THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR THE HOUSTON AREA CAME OUT OF A CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID CLOSE -- CLOSINGED DOOR BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS BRIEFING YESTERDAY AND HE SAID 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO 96% OF THE CALLS AND EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO GOING INTO SYRIA.
I'VE GOTTEN ARE OPPOSED TO GOING INTO SYRIA.
HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% GOING INTO SYRIA.
HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING.
HE SAID I CAN'T THINK OF 96% AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING.
REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING.
REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY 854 CALLS OR EMAILSES OPPOSED TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY ACTION.
TO IN SUPPORT OF MILITARY ACTION.
BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN ACTION.
BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL.
BERN EARN -- BERNIE SANDERS IN VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL.
-- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE.
VERMONT, FAMOUS LIBERAL.
-- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE.
488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT.
-- THIS IS THE FUNNY ONE.
488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT.
GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL 488 PHONE CALLS, 10 IN SUPPORT.
GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING?
GWEN: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CALL SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING?
>> VERY FEW.
SEXBLESD IT'S A GOOD THING?
>> VERY FEW.
>> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT.
>> VERY FEW.
>> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT.
AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO >> HERE'S THE TOUGH POINT.
AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS.
AND THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS.
HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR SUMMARIZE HIS REMARKS.
HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST HE SAID IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST POPULAR THINGS.
JOBS TO VOTE FOR THE MOST POPULAR THINGS.
WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO POPULAR THINGS.
WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I WAS TRYING TO APPEAL TO MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE MORALITY AND DECENCY, WHICH I THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS THINK WAS A HUGE PART OF THE MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS ON CAPITOL HILL.
MESSAGE OF JOHN KERRY'S ADDRESS ON CAPITOL HILL.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST ON CAPITOL HILL.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE.
THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS EFFECTIVE.
THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH CAPITOL HILL.
HAD REALLY BAD RHYTHMS WITH CAPITOL HILL.
THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF CAPITOL HILL.
THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG THEY DON'T HAVE A RESERVOIR OF POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG OR TRUST RHYTHMS.
POLITICAL GOOD WILL OF STRONG OR TRUST RHYTHMS.
THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST OR TRUST RHYTHMS.
THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO MOST RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO RECENTLY HAS SAID I DON'T NEED CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO CORRAL THEM.
CONGRESS AND NOW IS TRYING TO CORRAL THEM.
GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL CORRAL THEM.
GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T GWEN: THERE'S ALSO A MORAL ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS.
ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS DOESN'T HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS.
NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE HAVE A MORALE THAT STICKS.
NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
NOT ONLY FROM IRAQ BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG.
PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS FARE WELL ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG.
>> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A ADDRESS IN ST. PIERCE BURG.
>> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US >> WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT IS A TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TERRIBLE STAIN ON ALL OF US THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN RWANDA.
PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED IN RWANDA.
IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON RWANDA.
IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD IMAGINE IF RWANDA WAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE?
RIGHT NOW AND WE ASKED SHOULD WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE?
-- RWANDNDND WE INTERVENE IN A WANDE?
-- RWANDNDND I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY -- RWANDNDND I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING I THINK IT'S FAIR TOIT PROBABLY GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL GWEN: THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING CONNECTION, BETWEEN THE MORAL ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT AND THE POLLING ARGUMENT.
>> HE IS BUT IT'S AN ARGUMENT.
>> HE IS BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM >> HE IS BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 INTERESTING ARGUMENT FROM BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE 100,000 PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF PEOPLE DIED IN SYRIA FROM CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS CONVENTIONAL CAUSES JUST OF ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE ORDINARY CIVIL WAR AND HE WAS LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S LEADING A GROUP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF ADMINISTRATION SAYING THERE'S NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN NO WAY TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL THE GROUND AND YOU DON'T GO IN UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON UNLESS OFF PLAN THAT WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON GROUND.
ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME ON GROUND.
HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- GROUND.
HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE HEN 1,000 PEOPLE, 1,4 OH, -- 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF 1,400 IF YOU BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ADMINISTRATION, 350 IN SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL THE INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
REPORTS GET KILLED BY CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC WEAPONS.
THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT THIS IS THE GREAT STRATEGIC DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS DISCONNECT IN HIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO BECAUSE HE KEEPS SAYING THIS IS A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT A LIMITED STRIKE, A DAY OR TWO TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID TO TEACH A LESSON -- A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID TO ASOD.
ACROSS THE BOW I THINK HE SAID TO ASOD.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE TO ASOD.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE HEARING FROM CONGRESS I THINK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE I THINK BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER?
HIM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER?
GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY DAY AFTER?
GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY SLOPE THING GOING ON.
GWEN: THERE'S A REAL SLIPPERY SLOPE THING GOING ON.
>> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND SLOPE THING GOING ON.
>> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND THE DISCONNECT.
>> IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE AND THE DISCONNECT.
HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE THE DISCONNECT.
HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE HE SAYS ON THE ONE HAND HE WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO WANTS ASSAD TO BE OUT BUT THE OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS OTHER IS THIS WILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS STRATEGY.
CONNECTION TO THAT PREVIOUS STRATEGY.
GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME STRATEGY.
GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN GWEN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT REGIME CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS.
CHANGE UNLESS WHEN IT IS, WHEN JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS.
>> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE JOHN MCCAIN SAYS IT IS.
>> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS >> WE SAW ON THE VOTE IN THE COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL COMMUNITY OF FOREIGN RELATIONS IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION IN THE SENATE JOHN MCCAIN BALL COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT COULD AT THE AUTHORIZATION EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY EVER,000 LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY TWEENGED IT.
WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH SO THEY TWEENGED IT.
THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO TWEENGED IT.
THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY.
THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOING TO DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY.
THAT'S DIFFERENT.
DEGRADE THE SYRIAN ABILITY.
THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF THAT MEANS AFFECT MORE THINGS AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF POWER.
AND MAYBE TIP THE BALANCE OF POWER.
WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE POWER.
WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE WHAT WE SEE IS THIS COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE SLIPLY SLOPE.
ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE SLIPLY SLOPE.
IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE SLIPLY SLOPE.
IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF.
IT NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF.
GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO TO BUY JOHN MCCAIN OFF.
GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN GWEN: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, THIS PIECE OF SOUND FROM JOHN KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, KERRY DURING THAT HEARING, SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT SPEAKING OF SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO.
WHEN YOU STALK TO -- TALK ABOUT EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO.
LET'S LISTEN.
EXACTLY HOW FAR YOU'LL GO.
LET'S LISTEN.
>> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, LET'S LISTEN.
>> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT >> IN THE EVENT SYRIA IMPLODED, FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT HERE WAS A THREAT OF A FOR INSTANCE, OR IN THE EVENT HERE WAS A THREAT OF A CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING HERE WAS A THREAT OF A CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING SOMEONE, I S OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS CACHE FALLING SOMEONE, I S OF DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE SOMEONE, I S OF DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR DON'T WANT TO TAKE OFF THE TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE TABLE AN OPTION THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY DON'T WANT ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO OF THIS HEARING THAT LEAVES ANY DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS DOOR OPEN TO ANY POSSIBILITY SO LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS TIGHT AS WE CAN.
LET'S SHUT THAT DOOR NOW AS TIGHT AS WE CAN.
GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR TIGHT AS WE CAN.
GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR AND SHUT IT AGAIN.
GWEN: FIRST HE OPENED THE DOOR AND SHUT IT AGAIN.
>> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR AND SHUT IT AGAIN.
>> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT.
>> THE COMMITTEE SHUT IT FOR HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT.
THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP HIM RIGHT AFTER THAT.
THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS THE RESOLUTION THEY ENDED UP PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE PASSING AND I THINK IT WAS COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO COMPELED IN PART OF WHAT HE SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO U.S.
COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A SAID IN THAT HEARING WAS NO U.S.
COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO U.S.
COMBAT TROOPS, MAYBE A RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO BUT THAT'S IT.
RESCUE MISSION IF YOU HAD TO BUT THAT'S IT.
IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, BUT THAT'S IT.
IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE IN EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE, YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES.
YOU'VE PROBABLY COST THE SENATE MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES.
THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, MAYBE 10 DEMOCRATIC VOTES.
THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, CHRIS THEY'VE LOST TOM YOU DAHL, CHRIS -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY.
CHRIS -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY.
>> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE -- TOM YOU DAL, CHRIS MURPHY.
>> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO THINGS IMPORTANT IN THIS IS THE PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY PERCEPTION AMONG LAWMAKERS TOO THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION.
THAT THE PENTAGON IS VERY LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION.
THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS LUKEWARM ABOUT THIS MISSION.
THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PENTAGON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO.
IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN, SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO.
HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO.
HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE HEARINGS.
HE DID NOT WOW IN FRONT OF THE HEARINGS.
HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR HEARINGS.
HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR MAKE A COMPELLING CASE.
HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXHULED OR MAKE A COMPELLING CASE.
A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE MAKE A COMPELLING CASE.
A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS A LOT OF LAWMAKERS HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS WITH THE PENTAGON AND IF WE ARE HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL.
HEARING THAT FROM OFFICIALS THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL.
>> -- AS WELL.
THEY'RE HEARING IT TWEL.
>> -- AS WELL.
>> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT >> -- AS WELL.
>> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE >> ONE PRESIDENT IN SUPPORT SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE SAID THAT DEMPSEY LOOKED LIKE HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE TESTIMONY.
HE WAS A HOT -- DURING THE TESTIMONY.
JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND TESTIMONY.
JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF JOHN KERRY WAS AGGRESSIVE AND ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON ENERGETIC AND DEMPSEY, ALL OF HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO HIS BODY LANGUAGE THIS PERSON SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO WATCH.
SAID, WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO WATCH.
>> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN WATCH.
>> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE >> YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION IN THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN THE SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE KERRY CAMP.
SORT OF DEMPSEY CAMP AND THE KERRY CAMP.
IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT KERRY CAMP.
IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT HEARING.
IT WAS PRETTY EVIDENT IN THAT HEARING.
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
HEARING.
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW IN PART BECAUSE THE PENTAGON'S VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION VIEW, THE U.S. MILITARY'S VIEW OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S. OF ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S.
TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING LIKE THIS IS IF YOU SEND U.S.
TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO TROOPS IN YOU BETTER BE SENDING THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING THEM IN TO MAKE A POINT THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING TO MISS.
ONE IN THE WORLD IS EVER GOING TO MISS.
SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE TO MISS.
SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING SO WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS WE ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE ARE THERE TO SEND A WARNING SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS.
SHOT, THE PENTAGON SAYS WE DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS.
WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT DON'T DO WARNING SHOTS.
WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE WE DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE U.S. MILITARY AGAIN.
CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T CROSS THE U.S. MILITARY AGAIN.
GWEN: THEY DON'T DO U.S. MILITARY AGAIN.
GWEN: THEY DON'T DO HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER.
GWEN: THEY DON'T DO HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER.
>> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS EITHER.
>> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA >> THEY WILL IF THAT IS THE SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI SOLE MISSION, BUT IN LIBYA BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI AND ALL THAT THAT WAS BEFORE BEN ZPWAZZ -- BENGHAZI AND ALL THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY AND ALL THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE CONSIDERED A SUCCESS NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY PROTECTED THE PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT PEOPLE OF BENGHAZI BUT BECAUSE IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I IN THE END, THE GOVERNMENT FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO FAILED AND DEMPSEY HAD TO SAY I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND.
MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND.
GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH GROUND.
GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH TUESDAY NIGHT.
GWEN: WE HAVE A BIG SPEECH TUESDAY NIGHT.
THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE TUESDAY NIGHT.
THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN.
HIS CASE AGAIN, HOPEFULLY FOR A LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN.
WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO?
LARGER ALL OF A SUDDEN.
WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO?
HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO?
HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE HANGING ON HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION TUESDAY NIGHT?
HIS POWERS OF PERSUASION TUESDAY NIGHT?
>> VERY MUCH.
TUESDAY NIGHT?
>> VERY MUCH.
LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES.
>> VERY MUCH.
LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES.
THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A LAWMAKERS OF BOTH PARTIES.
THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT THEY WANT TO SEE HIM GIVE A SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- SPEECH, STICK HIS NECK OUT THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THERE AND TRY TO MAKE HIS IS -- HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL HIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF AND THE NEXT MORNING THEY'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON WAIT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON SWITCH OWENS SI.
RECEPTION THEY GET FROM THE CON SWITCH OWENS SI.
IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP SWITCH OWENS SI.
IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP KENZIE.
IT IS THAT IRAQ -- CON TIP KENZIE.
THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT KENZIE.
THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE REGION AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE AND WHY WOULD I -- IT AFFECT SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE DAKOTAS.
SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS OR THE DAKOTAS.
>> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE DAKOTAS.
>> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE >> OF ALL OF THE TWO SIDELINE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING AN EFFORT, DON'T UNDERESMATETI THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM THE VALUE OF THE MEMBERS COMING BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM TOGETHER.
BACK AND GETTING INTO THE ROOM TOGETHER.
THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE TOGETHER.
THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO THEY NOT ONLY LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO FORM OPINIONS.
PRESIDENT BUT OTHER MEMBERS TO FORM OPINIONS.
MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS FORM OPINIONS.
MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING.
MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T SEEN THIS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING.
THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS CLASSIFIED BRIEFING.
THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE THE OTHER THING IS APAC, IS ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS ISRAELI LOBBY HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS GOING TO DO A FULL-COURT PRESS TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS NEXT WEEK.
TO MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR THIS NEXT WEEK.
>> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- NEXT WEEK.
>> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, >> THE PRESIDENT, THE TONE -- WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE WE SAW IT IN HIS REMARKS TODAY, ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC KILLED, MAKING A MORAL CASE WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO WITH A VERY, SORT OF GRAPHIC DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO INNOCENT CHILDREN.
DEPRIPPINGS OF WHAT THIS DID TO INNOCENT CHILDREN.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A INNOCENT CHILDREN.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS A DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS KILLING IN SYRIA.
DISTINCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS KILLING IN SYRIA.
THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR KILLING IN SYRIA.
THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS THEY THINK THEY'RE -- THEIR MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS IN THAT AREA.
MOST POWERFUL EMOTIONAL CASE IS IN THAT AREA.
>> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER IN THAT AREA.
>> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE >> HE'S GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE.
HE'S MAKING A HUMANITARIAN CASE OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE.
HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH OR A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE.
HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH AND I THINK IT'S BEEN HE'S TRIED A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH AND I THINK IT'S BEEN UNCONVINCING.
AND I THINK IT'S BEEN UNCONVINCING.
GWEN: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE UNCONVINCING.
GWEN: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON THE PLANE FLYING GWEN: THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON THE PLANE FLYING BACK FROM RUSSIA TONIGHT.
PLANNING ON THE PLANE FLYING BACK FROM RUSSIA TONIGHT.
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>> THANK YOU, AGAIN.
COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE >> THANK YOU, AGAIN.
COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS COMING UP TOMORROW ON THE PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE PREMIERE EDITION OF PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN HOUR WEEKEND, ALL OF THE TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AN IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE ATTENTION.
IMPORTANT STORY GETTING LITTLE ATTENTION.
ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY ATTENTION.
ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY DISCOVERIES.
ISRAEL'S HUGE ENERGY DISCOVERIES.
HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE DISCOVERIES.
HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
HOW WILL THEY CHANGE LIFE THERE AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
THAT'S TOMORROW.
AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
THAT'S TOMORROW.
AGAIN?
THAT'S TOMORROW.
AGAIN?
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