Over 50 And Looking For Jobs, Obama's Cabinet, FMLA

08/29/2013 | 25m 43s | Video has closed captioning.

Why women over age 50 aren't getting hired, why there are so few women in President Obama's cabinet and the Family and Medical Leave Act: 20 years later. PANELISTS: Libertarian Commentator Nicole Kurokawa Neily; Progressive Commentator Patricia Sosa, The Heritage Foundation’s Jennifer Marshall, Progressive Magazine Editor-in-chief Ruth Conniff

Aired: 08/29/13

Rating: NR

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Funding for TO THE CONTRARY is provided by the E. Rhodes and Leona B. Carpenter Foundation, the Park Foundation and the Charles A. Frueauff Foundation.

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>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, WHY THIS LABOR DAY OLDER CONTRARY" FIRST, WHY THIS LABOR DAY OLDER WOMEN NEED NOT APPLY.

FIRST, WHY THIS LABOR DAY OLDER WOMEN NEED NOT APPLY.

THEN, THE PRESIDENT GETS A WOMEN NEED NOT APPLY.

THEN, THE PRESIDENT GETS A FAILING GRADE ON FEMALE CABINET THEN, THE PRESIDENT GETS A FAILING GRADE ON FEMALE CABINET APPOINTEES.

FAILING GRADE ON FEMALE CABINET APPOINTEES.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE FAMILY APPOINTEES.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT TURNS 20.

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, WHEN AGE AND GENDER PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, WHEN AGE AND GENDER WORK AGAINST YOUR JOB SEARCH.

THIS LABOR DAY ONE DEMOGRAPHIC WORK AGAINST YOUR JOB SEARCH.

THIS LABOR DAY ONE DEMOGRAPHIC HAVING AN INCREDIBLY TOUGH TIME THIS LABOR DAY ONE DEMOGRAPHIC HAVING AN INCREDIBLY TOUGH TIME FINDING WORK IS WOMEN 50 PLUS.

HAVING AN INCREDIBLY TOUGH TIME FINDING WORK IS WOMEN 50 PLUS.

THE CENSUS BUREAU REPORTED IN FINDING WORK IS WOMEN 50 PLUS.

THE CENSUS BUREAU REPORTED IN 2011 THAT ALMOST 47% OF MEN 55 THE CENSUS BUREAU REPORTED IN 2011 THAT ALMOST 47% OF MEN 55 AND OLDER WERE IN THE CIVILIAN 2011 THAT ALMOST 47% OF MEN 55 AND OLDER WERE IN THE CIVILIAN LABOR FORCE, BUT ONLY 35% OF AND OLDER WERE IN THE CIVILIAN LABOR FORCE, BUT ONLY 35% OF WOMEN.

LABOR FORCE, BUT ONLY 35% OF WOMEN.

UNEMPLOYMENT AND UNDEREMPLOYMENT WOMEN.

UNEMPLOYMENT AND UNDEREMPLOYMENT IS ESPECIALLY PREVALENT AMONG UNEMPLOYMENT AND UNDEREMPLOYMENT IS ESPECIALLY PREVALENT AMONG MIDLIFE AND OLDER WOMEN.

IS ESPECIALLY PREVALENT AMONG MIDLIFE AND OLDER WOMEN.

THE OLDER WOMEN'S LEAGUE REVEALS MIDLIFE AND OLDER WOMEN.

THE OLDER WOMEN'S LEAGUE REVEALS THAT FOR MEN 55-61, JUST MORE THE OLDER WOMEN'S LEAGUE REVEALS THAT FOR MEN 55-61, JUST MORE THAN 7% ARE UNDEREMPLOYED.

THAT FOR MEN 55-61, JUST MORE THAN 7% ARE UNDEREMPLOYED.

FOR WOMEN IN THE SAME AGE GROUP, THAN 7% ARE UNDEREMPLOYED.

FOR WOMEN IN THE SAME AGE GROUP, THE PERCENTAGE JUMPS ABOVE 20.

EXPERTS POINT TO MANY FACTORS THE PERCENTAGE JUMPS ABOVE 20.

EXPERTS POINT TO MANY FACTORS INCLUDING AN INCREDIBLY TIGHT EXPERTS POINT TO MANY FACTORS INCLUDING AN INCREDIBLY TIGHT LABOR MARKET, MANY WOMEN HAVING INCLUDING AN INCREDIBLY TIGHT LABOR MARKET, MANY WOMEN HAVING TAKEN THEMSELVES OUT OF THE WORK LABOR MARKET, MANY WOMEN HAVING TAKEN THEMSELVES OUT OF THE WORK FORCE TO RAISE KIDS OR CARE FOR TAKEN THEMSELVES OUT OF THE WORK FORCE TO RAISE KIDS OR CARE FOR ELDERLY RELATIVES, AGE FORCE TO RAISE KIDS OR CARE FOR ELDERLY RELATIVES, AGE DISCRIMINATION AND EMPLOYERS ELDERLY RELATIVES, AGE DISCRIMINATION AND EMPLOYERS DODGING OLDER WORKERS BECAUSE DISCRIMINATION AND EMPLOYERS DODGING OLDER WORKERS BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE MORE DODGING OLDER WORKERS BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE AND LESS PRODUCTIVE.

THEY THINK THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE AND LESS PRODUCTIVE.

ENYOUR EXPERIENCE WHY DO YOU EXPENSIVE AND LESS PRODUCTIVE.

ENYOUR EXPERIENCE WHY DO YOU THINK WOMEN RADIO PLUS HAVE A ENYOUR EXPERIENCE WHY DO YOU THINK WOMEN RADIO PLUS HAVE A HARDER TIME FINDING JOBS.

THINK WOMEN RADIO PLUS HAVE A HARDER TIME FINDING JOBS.

>> EVERYONE IS FINDING HARDER TIME FINDING JOBS.

>> EVERYONE IS FINDING EMPLOYMENT.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATES FOR YOUNG EMPLOYMENT.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE UNDER 25, MINORITIES, UNEMPLOYMENT RATES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE UNDER 25, MINORITIES, EVERYONE IS STILL STRUGGLING PEOPLE UNDER 25, MINORITIES, EVERYONE IS STILL STRUGGLING VERY, VERY MUCH SO.

EVERYONE IS STILL STRUGGLING VERY, VERY MUCH SO.

THE ECONOMY IS RECOVERING BUT VERY, VERY MUCH SO.

THE ECONOMY IS RECOVERING BUT EVERYONE IS HAVING PROBLEMS.

>> OLDER WOMEN ARE THE FIRST EVERYONE IS HAVING PROBLEMS.

>> OLDER WOMEN ARE THE FIRST CASUALTIES, BECAUSE WOMEN ARE >> OLDER WOMEN ARE THE FIRST CASUALTIES, BECAUSE WOMEN ARE OVER REPRESENTED AMONG LOWEST CASUALTIES, BECAUSE WOMEN ARE OVER REPRESENTED AMONG LOWEST PAID WORKERS.

OVER REPRESENTED AMONG LOWEST PAID WORKERS.

THEY HAVE EXTRA BURDEN IN OUR PAID WORKERS.

THEY HAVE EXTRA BURDEN IN OUR SOCIETY THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE THEY HAVE EXTRA BURDEN IN OUR SOCIETY THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR CAREGIVING.

SOCIETY THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR CAREGIVING.

TURNS OUT TWICE AS MANY RETIRED SUPPORT FOR CAREGIVING.

TURNS OUT TWICE AS MANY RETIRED AGE WOMEN ARE IN POVERTY AS MEN.

THEY NO DOUBT THAT WOMEN ARE AGE WOMEN ARE IN POVERTY AS MEN.

THEY NO DOUBT THAT WOMEN ARE TAKING IT.

>> IT'S A TOUGH ECONOMY FOR ALL TAKING IT.

>> IT'S A TOUGH ECONOMY FOR ALL WORKERS, SINCE MEN GOT HARDER >> IT'S A TOUGH ECONOMY FOR ALL WORKERS, SINCE MEN GOT HARDER HIT AT THE REBEGINNING, THEY'RE WORKERS, SINCE MEN GOT HARDER HIT AT THE REBEGINNING, THEY'RE BOUNCING BACK FASTER.

HIT AT THE REBEGINNING, THEY'RE BOUNCING BACK FASTER.

>> IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE BOUNCING BACK FASTER.

>> IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE WORKPLACE.

IT'S A FAST CHANGING WORKPLACE.

WORKPLACE.

IT'S A FAST CHANGING WORKPLACE.

YOU HAVE WORKERS HIRING YOUNGER IT'S A FAST CHANGING WORKPLACE.

YOU HAVE WORKERS HIRING YOUNGER PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER YOU HAVE WORKERS HIRING YOUNGER PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER AND THEY MAYBE UPDATED SKILLS ON PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER AND THEY MAYBE UPDATED SKILLS ON TOP THAT HAVE YOU HAVE AND THEY MAYBE UPDATED SKILLS ON TOP THAT HAVE YOU HAVE DISCRIMINATION FOR OLDER WOMEN.

TOP THAT HAVE YOU HAVE DISCRIMINATION FOR OLDER WOMEN.

>> ONE THING I KEEP HEARING DISCRIMINATION FOR OLDER WOMEN.

>> ONE THING I KEEP HEARING FROM -- I HAVE ONE OF THE >> ONE THING I KEEP HEARING FROM -- I HAVE ONE OF THE REASONS WE DECIDED TO DO THIS FROM -- I HAVE ONE OF THE REASONS WE DECIDED TO DO THIS STORY I HAVE HALF DOZEN FRIENDS REASONS WE DECIDED TO DO THIS STORY I HAVE HALF DOZEN FRIENDS RIGHT NOW IN THE SITUATION OF STORY I HAVE HALF DOZEN FRIENDS RIGHT NOW IN THE SITUATION OF HAVING HAD GREAT CAREERS EARLY RIGHT NOW IN THE SITUATION OF HAVING HAD GREAT CAREERS EARLY ON AND EVERYTHING GOTTEN OUT OF HAVING HAD GREAT CAREERS EARLY ON AND EVERYTHING GOTTEN OUT OF THE WORKFORCE MAINLY TO RAISE ON AND EVERYTHING GOTTEN OUT OF THE WORKFORCE MAINLY TO RAISE CHILDREN, COMING BACK IN THEIR THE WORKFORCE MAINLY TO RAISE CHILDREN, COMING BACK IN THEIR 50s PLUS AND THEY ARE NOT -- CHILDREN, COMING BACK IN THEIR 50s PLUS AND THEY ARE NOT -- SPEND ARE SENDING OUT 200 50s PLUS AND THEY ARE NOT -- SPEND ARE SENDING OUT 200 RESUMES NOT GETTING AN INTERVIEW SPEND ARE SENDING OUT 200 RESUMES NOT GETTING AN INTERVIEW INCLUDING ONE I KNOW WHO WAS A RESUMES NOT GETTING AN INTERVIEW INCLUDING ONE I KNOW WHO WAS A LAWYER, WENT TO YALE INCLUDING ONE I KNOW WHO WAS A LAWYER, WENT TO YALE UNDERGRADUATE AND COLUMBIA LAW LAWYER, WENT TO YALE UNDERGRADUATE AND COLUMBIA LAW SCHOOL.

UNDERGRADUATE AND COLUMBIA LAW SCHOOL.

SHE CAN'T -- WAS WITH A BIG FIRM SCHOOL.

SHE CAN'T -- WAS WITH A BIG FIRM EARLIER ON.

CAN'T GET AN INTERVIEW.

EARLIER ON.

CAN'T GET AN INTERVIEW.

WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME IS, WITH CAN'T GET AN INTERVIEW.

WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME IS, WITH COMPUTERIZED SCREENING OF WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME IS, WITH COMPUTERIZED SCREENING OF RESUMES, YOU MAY AS WELL NOT COMPUTERIZED SCREENING OF RESUMES, YOU MAY AS WELL NOT APPLY FOR ANY JOB WHERE YOU RESUMES, YOU MAY AS WELL NOT APPLY FOR ANY JOB WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL APPLY FOR ANY JOB WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL CONNECTION.

DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL CONNECTION.

IS THAT WHAT -- BECAUSE RESUME CONNECTION.

IS THAT WHAT -- BECAUSE RESUME SCREEN FOR AGE.

>> THE "NEW YORK TIMES" HAD SCREEN FOR AGE.

>> THE "NEW YORK TIMES" HAD FASCINATING LANGUAGE ARTICLE >> THE "NEW YORK TIMES" HAD FASCINATING LANGUAGE ARTICLE WHERE THEY LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF FASCINATING LANGUAGE ARTICLE WHERE THEY LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF WOMEN WHO 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO HAD WHERE THEY LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF WOMEN WHO 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO HAD CHOSEN TO OPT OUT OF THE WOMEN WHO 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO HAD CHOSEN TO OPT OUT OF THE WORKFORCE.

CHOSEN TO OPT OUT OF THE WORKFORCE.

THEY CHECKED BACK IN, ALMOST ALL WORKFORCE.

THEY CHECKED BACK IN, ALMOST ALL OF THEN REGRETTED DOING SO WHICH THEY CHECKED BACK IN, ALMOST ALL OF THEN REGRETTED DOING SO WHICH WAS REALLY FASCINATING TO ME.

OF THEN REGRETTED DOING SO WHICH WAS REALLY FASCINATING TO ME.

THE ONES HO HAD BEEN ABLE TO WAS REALLY FASCINATING TO ME.

THE ONES HO HAD BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITION BACK IN THE ONES HO HAD BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITION BACK IN TO THE WORKFORCE ARE ONES THAT SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITION BACK IN TO THE WORKFORCE ARE ONES THAT HAD LEVERAGED THEIR PERSONAL TO THE WORKFORCE ARE ONES THAT HAD LEVERAGED THEIR PERSONAL NETWORKS HAD REALLY GONE OUT AND HAD LEVERAGED THEIR PERSONAL NETWORKS HAD REALLY GONE OUT AND HUSTLED MADE THOSE PERSONAL NETWORKS HAD REALLY GONE OUT AND HUSTLED MADE THOSE PERSONAL CONNECTIONS WHERE YOU CAN HUSTLED MADE THOSE PERSONAL CONNECTIONS WHERE YOU CAN CIRCUMVENT THOSE SYSTEMS.

CONNECTIONS WHERE YOU CAN CIRCUMVENT THOSE SYSTEMS.

>> AGAIN, I MEAN, OLDER WOMEN CIRCUMVENT THOSE SYSTEMS.

>> AGAIN, I MEAN, OLDER WOMEN HAVE IT HARDER BECAUSE THEY HAVE >> AGAIN, I MEAN, OLDER WOMEN HAVE IT HARDER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE GENDER DISCRIMINATION ASPECT HAVE IT HARDER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE GENDER DISCRIMINATION ASPECT OF IT.

THE GENDER DISCRIMINATION ASPECT OF IT.

BUT OLDER MEN ALSO HAVE IT OF IT.

BUT OLDER MEN ALSO HAVE IT REALLY HARD, I THINK THE BUT OLDER MEN ALSO HAVE IT REALLY HARD, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS FOR WOMEN LEAVE REALLY HARD, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS FOR WOMEN LEAVE THE WORKFORCE YOU DON'T DIFFERENCE IS FOR WOMEN LEAVE THE WORKFORCE YOU DON'T ACCUMULATE, IT'S VERY HARD TO GO THE WORKFORCE YOU DON'T ACCUMULATE, IT'S VERY HARD TO GO BACK AT THE SAME LEVEL ALMOST ACCUMULATE, IT'S VERY HARD TO GO BACK AT THE SAME LEVEL ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

BACK AT THE SAME LEVEL ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

>> IS THE MESSAGE HERE DON'T GET IMPOSSIBLE.

>> IS THE MESSAGE HERE DON'T GET OUT -- YOU'RE PREGNANT WITH YOUR >> IS THE MESSAGE HERE DON'T GET OUT -- YOU'RE PREGNANT WITH YOUR FIRST CHILD ARE YOU GOING TO GET OUT -- YOU'RE PREGNANT WITH YOUR FIRST CHILD ARE YOU GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WORKFORCE FOR AWHILE FIRST CHILD ARE YOU GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WORKFORCE FOR AWHILE AFTER -- OUT OF THE WORKFORCE FOR AWHILE AFTER -- >> NO.

AFTER -- >> NO.

I HAVE THE LUXURY, MY MOTHER IS >> NO.

I HAVE THE LUXURY, MY MOTHER IS MOVING IN WITH US, MY MOTHER WHO I HAVE THE LUXURY, MY MOTHER IS MOVING IN WITH US, MY MOTHER WHO IS AN OLDER WOMAN WILL BE MOVING IN WITH US, MY MOTHER WHO IS AN OLDER WOMAN WILL BE HELPING US TAKE CARE OF OUR IS AN OLDER WOMAN WILL BE HELPING US TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILD.

HELPING US TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILD.

CHILD CARE IS VERY -- SO MANY CHILD.

CHILD CARE IS VERY -- SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT MADE IT CHILD CARE IS VERY -- SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN IN THE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN IN THE WORKFORCE OVERALL.

VERY DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN IN THE WORKFORCE OVERALL.

>> THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT WORKFORCE OVERALL.

>> THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT THIS IS THE QUALITY >> THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT THIS IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

ISSUE THAT THIS IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

AND THE FACT SOME WOMEN AND MEN OF LIFE ISSUE.

AND THE FACT SOME WOMEN AND MEN WANT TO HAVE A LIFE.

WE ARE IN A WORKFORCE NOW WHERE WANT TO HAVE A LIFE.

WE ARE IN A WORKFORCE NOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY IN A STRIPPED WE ARE IN A WORKFORCE NOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY IN A STRIPPED DOWN SITUATION, THEY'RE BEING PEOPLE ARE REALLY IN A STRIPPED DOWN SITUATION, THEY'RE BEING PUSHED VERY, VERY HARD THEY'RE DOWN SITUATION, THEY'RE BEING PUSHED VERY, VERY HARD THEY'RE BEING TOLD YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU PUSHED VERY, VERY HARD THEY'RE BEING TOLD YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU HAVE A JOB.

BEING TOLD YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU HAVE A JOB.

AND WE HAVE NOT SOLVED THIS HAVE A JOB.

AND WE HAVE NOT SOLVED THIS PROBLEM OF WOMEN MOVING IN TO AND WE HAVE NOT SOLVED THIS PROBLEM OF WOMEN MOVING IN TO THE WORKFORCE IN MASSIVE NUMBERS PROBLEM OF WOMEN MOVING IN TO THE WORKFORCE IN MASSIVE NUMBERS NOT JUST PROVIDING FREE CARE AT THE WORKFORCE IN MASSIVE NUMBERS NOT JUST PROVIDING FREE CARE AT HOME SO THAT MEN CAN HAVE NOT JUST PROVIDING FREE CARE AT HOME SO THAT MEN CAN HAVE CAREER.

HOME SO THAT MEN CAN HAVE CAREER.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANY MORE.

CAREER.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANY MORE.

BUT OUR SOCIETY HAS NOT CAUGHT THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANY MORE.

BUT OUR SOCIETY HAS NOT CAUGHT UP.

IT'S NOT JUST -- IT WOULD BE UP.

IT'S NOT JUST -- IT WOULD BE NICE TO STAY HOME TAKE CARE OF IT'S NOT JUST -- IT WOULD BE NICE TO STAY HOME TAKE CARE OF MY KIDS IT'S THAT AS YOU SAY NICE TO STAY HOME TAKE CARE OF MY KIDS IT'S THAT AS YOU SAY CHILD COMPARE IS INCREDIBLY MY KIDS IT'S THAT AS YOU SAY CHILD COMPARE IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.

CHILD COMPARE IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC STRUCTURE EXPENSIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THINGS LIKE PAID TIME OFF AND THAT ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THINGS LIKE PAID TIME OFF AND HALF OF WOMEN CAN'T EVEN TAKE A THINGS LIKE PAID TIME OFF AND HALF OF WOMEN CAN'T EVEN TAKE A DAY OFF TO TAKE CARE OF A SICK HALF OF WOMEN CAN'T EVEN TAKE A DAY OFF TO TAKE CARE OF A SICK CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY.

DAY OFF TO TAKE CARE OF A SICK CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE HAVE A VERY BRUTAL ECONOMY -- CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE HAVE A VERY BRUTAL ECONOMY -- >> BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM WE HAVE A VERY BRUTAL ECONOMY -- >> BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

>> BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

I LOOK IT THAT -- OF COURSE YOU A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

I LOOK IT THAT -- OF COURSE YOU HAVE THREE CHILDREN AND I AM I LOOK IT THAT -- OF COURSE YOU HAVE THREE CHILDREN AND I AM CHILD FREE BY CHOICE, BUT I -- HAVE THREE CHILDREN AND I AM CHILD FREE BY CHOICE, BUT I -- NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT FRIENDLY TO CHILD FREE BY CHOICE, BUT I -- NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT FRIENDLY TO CHILDREN.

NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT FRIENDLY TO CHILDREN.

BUT -- ONE OF THE REASONS I CHILDREN.

BUT -- ONE OF THE REASONS I DIDN'T HAVE KIDS WAS I COULDN'T BUT -- ONE OF THE REASONS I DIDN'T HAVE KIDS WAS I COULDN'T HAVE AFFORDED DAYCARE, THERE DIDN'T HAVE KIDS WAS I COULDN'T HAVE AFFORDED DAYCARE, THERE WERE LOTS OF REASONS, BUT I FEEL HAVE AFFORDED DAYCARE, THERE WERE LOTS OF REASONS, BUT I FEEL THAT YOU NEED TO PREPARE WERE LOTS OF REASONS, BUT I FEEL THAT YOU NEED TO PREPARE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU HAVE A CHILD THAT YOU NEED TO PREPARE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU HAVE A CHILD TO MAKE SURE -- LET ME FINISH.

YOURSELF BEFORE YOU HAVE A CHILD TO MAKE SURE -- LET ME FINISH.

TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE -- LET ME FINISH.

TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE CHILD CARE, THAT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE CHILD CARE, THAT YOU CAN AFFORD IT.

AVAILABLE CHILD CARE, THAT YOU CAN AFFORD IT.

IF YOU DON'T AND IF YOU CAN'T CAN AFFORD IT.

IF YOU DON'T AND IF YOU CAN'T CREATE SOME CO-OP OR HAVE A IF YOU DON'T AND IF YOU CAN'T CREATE SOME CO-OP OR HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER MOVE IN, YOU CREATE SOME CO-OP OR HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER MOVE IN, YOU SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THEM.

FAMILY MEMBER MOVE IN, YOU SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THEM.

>> GOING TO END UP 55 TRYING TO SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THEM.

>> GOING TO END UP 55 TRYING TO GET BACK IN THE WORKFORCE AND >> GOING TO END UP 55 TRYING TO GET BACK IN THE WORKFORCE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO.

GET BACK IN THE WORKFORCE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO.

>> THAT'S NOT -- NOT BEING ABLE TO.

>> THAT'S NOT -- >> THAT'S NOT A VIABLE ANSWER.

>> THAT'S NOT A VIABLE ANSWER >> THAT'S NOT A VIABLE ANSWER.

>> THAT'S NOT A VIABLE ANSWER FOR OUR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

WE CAN'T SAY, LET'S LET FOR OUR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

WE CAN'T SAY, LET'S LET CHILDREN -- WE NEED TO TAKE CARE WE CAN'T SAY, LET'S LET CHILDREN -- WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF KIDS.

CHILDREN -- WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF KIDS.

>> NO.

OF KIDS.

>> NO.

>> EXCUSE ME, PLEASE.

>> NO.

>> EXCUSE ME, PLEASE.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE MANY >> EXCUSE ME, PLEASE.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY YOU ARE DEAD WRONG, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY YOU ARE DEAD WRONG, I'M SORRY.

REASONS WHY YOU ARE DEAD WRONG, I'M SORRY.

THE FIRST IS, YOU MARRY A GUY OR I'M SORRY.

THE FIRST IS, YOU MARRY A GUY OR BE WITH A GUY OR PARTNER THAT THE FIRST IS, YOU MARRY A GUY OR BE WITH A GUY OR PARTNER THAT WILL DO HALF THE WORK.

BE WITH A GUY OR PARTNER THAT WILL DO HALF THE WORK.

THAT GETS RID OF A LARGE AMOUNT WILL DO HALF THE WORK.

THAT GETS RID OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF NEED FOR THE DAYCARE.

GO AHEAD.

OF NEED FOR THE DAYCARE.

GO AHEAD.

>> MY POINT, BONNIE, IS THAT GO AHEAD.

>> MY POINT, BONNIE, IS THAT YOU -- MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THAT >> MY POINT, BONNIE, IS THAT YOU -- MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION MAY HAVE SOME POINTS YOU -- MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION MAY HAVE SOME POINTS BUT THAT'S NOT THE REALITY OF DISCUSSION MAY HAVE SOME POINTS BUT THAT'S NOT THE REALITY OF OUR SOCIETY.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE REALITY OF OUR SOCIETY.

WOMEN ARE HAVING CHILDREN, WE OUR SOCIETY.

WOMEN ARE HAVING CHILDREN, WE NEED TO HAVE CHILDREN TO SUSTAIN WOMEN ARE HAVING CHILDREN, WE NEED TO HAVE CHILDREN TO SUSTAIN OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH.

NEED TO HAVE CHILDREN TO SUSTAIN OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH.

[ ALL TALKING AT ONCE ] OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH.

[ ALL TALKING AT ONCE ] >> BUT THE POLICIES WE HAVE IN [ ALL TALKING AT ONCE ] >> BUT THE POLICIES WE HAVE IN PLACE IN ORDER TO REALLY USEFUL >> BUT THE POLICIES WE HAVE IN PLACE IN ORDER TO REALLY USEFUL POTENTIAL OUR WORKFORCE.

PLACE IN ORDER TO REALLY USEFUL POTENTIAL OUR WORKFORCE.

AND WHAT WE HAVE IS A POOL OF POTENTIAL OUR WORKFORCE.

AND WHAT WE HAVE IS A POOL OF OLDER WOMEN INCREDIBLY CAPABLE AND WHAT WE HAVE IS A POOL OF OLDER WOMEN INCREDIBLY CAPABLE AND SKILLFUL THAT PROBABLY OLDER WOMEN INCREDIBLY CAPABLE AND SKILLFUL THAT PROBABLY LEARNED IN CREDIBLE SKILLS WHILE AND SKILLFUL THAT PROBABLY LEARNED IN CREDIBLE SKILLS WHILE TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN LEARNED IN CREDIBLE SKILLS WHILE TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN THAT WE'RE NOT UTILIZING.

TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN THAT WE'RE NOT UTILIZING.

>> THERE'S A WIN-WIN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE NOT UTILIZING.

>> THERE'S A WIN-WIN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE >> THERE'S A WIN-WIN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE HAVING A HARD TIME MAKING IT.

HERE FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE HAVING A HARD TIME MAKING IT.

BEING ABLE TO DEFINE PROJECTS HAVING A HARD TIME MAKING IT.

BEING ABLE TO DEFINE PROJECTS THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE COMING BEING ABLE TO DEFINE PROJECTS THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE COMING BACK TO THE WORKFORCE WHO HAVE THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE COMING BACK TO THE WORKFORCE WHO HAVE SET OF SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE, IS BACK TO THE WORKFORCE WHO HAVE SET OF SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE, IS THAT MIGHT NOT FIT IN TO THE BOX SET OF SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE, IS THAT MIGHT NOT FIT IN TO THE BOX OF FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT.

THAT MIGHT NOT FIT IN TO THE BOX OF FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT.

THERE ARE ALL KINDS EVER OF FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT.

THERE ARE ALL KINDS EVER ENTREPRENEURIAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE ALL KINDS EVER ENTREPRENEURIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE WOMEN WHO HAVE THE ENTREPRENEURIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE WOMEN WHO HAVE THE LIFE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE GOING FOR THESE WOMEN WHO HAVE THE LIFE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE GOING TO BE VALUED BY COURSE, MARKET LIFE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE GOING TO BE VALUED BY COURSE, MARKET THAT CAN, WOMEN CONNECTING AND TO BE VALUED BY COURSE, MARKET THAT CAN, WOMEN CONNECTING AND EMPOWERING ONE ANOTHER IS OPEN THAT CAN, WOMEN CONNECTING AND EMPOWERING ONE ANOTHER IS OPEN FIELD HERE.

EMPOWERING ONE ANOTHER IS OPEN FIELD HERE.

>> OKAY, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

FIELD HERE.

>> OKAY, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK, >> OKAY, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK, PLEASE FOLLOW ME.

@BONNIEERBE.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME.

@BONNIEERBE.

FROM WOMEN LOOKING FOR JOBS TO @BONNIEERBE.

FROM WOMEN LOOKING FOR JOBS TO WOMEN IN OBAMA'S CABINET.

IS ANYONE SURPRISED?

WOMEN IN OBAMA'S CABINET.

IS ANYONE SURPRISED?

A REPORT OUT THIS WEEK SHOWS THE IS ANYONE SURPRISED?

A REPORT OUT THIS WEEK SHOWS THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE HAS DONE A A REPORT OUT THIS WEEK SHOWS THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE HAS DONE A STUNNINGLY LESS IMPRESSIVE JOB OBAMA WHITE HOUSE HAS DONE A STUNNINGLY LESS IMPRESSIVE JOB OF APPOINTING WOMEN TO STUNNINGLY LESS IMPRESSIVE JOB OF APPOINTING WOMEN TO CABINET-LEVEL POSTS THAN ITS OF APPOINTING WOMEN TO CABINET-LEVEL POSTS THAN ITS MOST RECENT PREDECESSOR, THE CABINET-LEVEL POSTS THAN ITS MOST RECENT PREDECESSOR, THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

MOST RECENT PREDECESSOR, THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

A "NEW YORK TIMES" SURVEY CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

A "NEW YORK TIMES" SURVEY COMPARED FEMALE CABINET-LEVEL A "NEW YORK TIMES" SURVEY COMPARED FEMALE CABINET-LEVEL APPOINTMENTS BY THE LAST THREE COMPARED FEMALE CABINET-LEVEL APPOINTMENTS BY THE LAST THREE ADMINISTRATIONS.

APPOINTMENTS BY THE LAST THREE ADMINISTRATIONS.

IT FOUND, THAT WOMEN CURRENTLY ADMINISTRATIONS.

IT FOUND, THAT WOMEN CURRENTLY HOLD ABOUT 35% OF CABINET-LEVEL IT FOUND, THAT WOMEN CURRENTLY HOLD ABOUT 35% OF CABINET-LEVEL POSTS, COMPARED WITH 41% DURING HOLD ABOUT 35% OF CABINET-LEVEL POSTS, COMPARED WITH 41% DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATIONS AND POSTS, COMPARED WITH 41% DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATIONS AND 24% DURING THE GEORGE W. BUSH THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATIONS AND 24% DURING THE GEORGE W. BUSH YEARS.

24% DURING THE GEORGE W. BUSH YEARS.

DO WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPECT YEARS.

DO WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPECT MORE, EVEN MUCH MORE, FROM DO WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPECT MORE, EVEN MUCH MORE, FROM PRESIDENT OBAMA?

MORE, EVEN MUCH MORE, FROM PRESIDENT OBAMA?

WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT, HE WOULD PRESIDENT OBAMA?

WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ELECTED IN THE WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE NOR RE-ELECTED IN NOT HAVE BEEN ELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE NOR RE-ELECTED IN THE SECOND.

FIRST PLACE NOR RE-ELECTED IN THE SECOND.

YOUR TURN.

THE SECOND.

YOUR TURN.

>> WOMEN HAVE RIGHT TO EXPECT YOUR TURN.

>> WOMEN HAVE RIGHT TO EXPECT MORE.

THEY DID EXPECT MORE SEEING MORE.

THEY DID EXPECT MORE SEEING SECOND TERM WITH THE BOYS CLUB THEY DID EXPECT MORE SEEING SECOND TERM WITH THE BOYS CLUB REASSERTING ITSELF IS REALLY SECOND TERM WITH THE BOYS CLUB REASSERTING ITSELF IS REALLY DISCOURAGING AND NO WHERE MORE REASSERTING ITSELF IS REALLY DISCOURAGING AND NO WHERE MORE DISCOURAGING THAN IN LARRY DISCOURAGING AND NO WHERE MORE DISCOURAGING THAN IN LARRY SUMMERS' PERSPECTIVE LEADERSHIP DISCOURAGING THAN IN LARRY SUMMERS' PERSPECTIVE LEADERSHIP AT THE FED.

SUMMERS' PERSPECTIVE LEADERSHIP AT THE FED.

LARRY, GIRLS WANT DO MATH AT THE FED.

LARRY, GIRLS WANT DO MATH SUMMERS, REALLY?

THE ECONOMIC CRISIS IN THIS SUMMERS, REALLY?

THE ECONOMIC CRISIS IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT TO MENTION HAS THE ECONOMIC CRISIS IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT TO MENTION HAS COMPLETE CONTEMPT FOR THE WOMEN COUNTRY, NOT TO MENTION HAS COMPLETE CONTEMPT FOR THE WOMEN WHO HAVE WORKED UNDER HIM COMPLETE CONTEMPT FOR THE WOMEN WHO HAVE WORKED UNDER HIM INCLUDING LET'S NEVER FORGET WHO HAVE WORKED UNDER HIM INCLUDING LET'S NEVER FORGET BROOKSLY WHO TRIED TO WARN LARRY INCLUDING LET'S NEVER FORGET BROOKSLY WHO TRIED TO WARN LARRY AND ROBERT RUBIN ABOUT IMPENDING BROOKSLY WHO TRIED TO WARN LARRY AND ROBERT RUBIN ABOUT IMPENDING FINANCIAL CRISIS THEY WERE AND ROBERT RUBIN ABOUT IMPENDING FINANCIAL CRISIS THEY WERE INCREDIBLY SNEERING AND MOCKING FINANCIAL CRISIS THEY WERE INCREDIBLY SNEERING AND MOCKING AND UNDERMINING IT.

INCREDIBLY SNEERING AND MOCKING AND UNDERMINING IT.

CAN WE SEE SOME PROGRESS HERE AND UNDERMINING IT.

CAN WE SEE SOME PROGRESS HERE NOT JUST FOR WOMEN BUT FOR OUR CAN WE SEE SOME PROGRESS HERE NOT JUST FOR WOMEN BUT FOR OUR WHOLE COUNTRY.

NOT JUST FOR WOMEN BUT FOR OUR WHOLE COUNTRY.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT AMERICANS WHOLE COUNTRY.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT AMERICANS BY AND LARGE THINK IN TERMS OF >> I DON'T THINK THAT AMERICANS BY AND LARGE THINK IN TERMS OF QUOTA.

BY AND LARGE THINK IN TERMS OF QUOTA.

IT IS IRONIC THAT AN QUOTA.

IT IS IRONIC THAT AN ADMINISTRATION THAT THINGS IN IT IS IRONIC THAT AN ADMINISTRATION THAT THINGS IN QUOTA, IS THAT BEGINS TO BE ADMINISTRATION THAT THINGS IN QUOTA, IS THAT BEGINS TO BE CAUGHT ON ITS OWN ARGUMENT NOT QUOTA, IS THAT BEGINS TO BE CAUGHT ON ITS OWN ARGUMENT NOT LIVING UP TO WHAT IT PROFESSES CAUGHT ON ITS OWN ARGUMENT NOT LIVING UP TO WHAT IT PROFESSES TO BELIEVE.

LIVING UP TO WHAT IT PROFESSES TO BELIEVE.

>> LET ME SAY THIS.

TO BELIEVE.

>> LET ME SAY THIS.

I AGREE IT WILL BE BETTER TO >> LET ME SAY THIS.

I AGREE IT WILL BE BETTER TO HAVE MORE WOMEN IN THE CATEGORY I AGREE IT WILL BE BETTER TO HAVE MORE WOMEN IN THE CATEGORY OF ADMINISTERING, DIFFERENT HAVE MORE WOMEN IN THE CATEGORY OF ADMINISTERING, DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT OF ADMINISTERING, DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT TO PERFORMANCE IN TERMS OF CATEGORIES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT TO PERFORMANCE IN TERMS OF FEMALE APPOINTMENTS OF THE TO PERFORMANCE IN TERMS OF FEMALE APPOINTMENTS OF THE ADMINISTRATION, HE LEADS FEMALE APPOINTMENTS OF THE ADMINISTRATION, HE LEADS DRAMATICALLY WITH 42% OF THE ADMINISTRATION, HE LEADS DRAMATICALLY WITH 42% OF THE JUDGES HE'S APPOINTED COMPARED DRAMATICALLY WITH 42% OF THE JUDGES HE'S APPOINTED COMPARED TO 30-SOME PERCENT WITH CLINTON.

JUDGES HE'S APPOINTED COMPARED TO 30-SOME PERCENT WITH CLINTON.

OVERALL ADMINISTRATION NOT JUST TO 30-SOME PERCENT WITH CLINTON.

OVERALL ADMINISTRATION NOT JUST WHITE HOUSE, HE ALSO IS 43% HE OVERALL ADMINISTRATION NOT JUST WHITE HOUSE, HE ALSO IS 43% HE IS AHEAD OF THE GAME BY A LOT OF WHITE HOUSE, HE ALSO IS 43% HE IS AHEAD OF THE GAME BY A LOT OF OTHER MEASUREMENTS NOT THIS VERY IS AHEAD OF THE GAME BY A LOT OF OTHER MEASUREMENTS NOT THIS VERY SPECIFIC ONE WHICH ARE HIGH OTHER MEASUREMENTS NOT THIS VERY SPECIFIC ONE WHICH ARE HIGH LEVEL POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIC ONE WHICH ARE HIGH LEVEL POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT CABINET LEVEL, BECAUSE CABINET LEVEL POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT CABINET LEVEL, BECAUSE CABINET LEVEL HE'S ALSO HIGHEST LEVELS.

CABINET LEVEL, BECAUSE CABINET LEVEL HE'S ALSO HIGHEST LEVELS.

THIS CATEGORY THAT WILL INCLUDE LEVEL HE'S ALSO HIGHEST LEVELS.

THIS CATEGORY THAT WILL INCLUDE THE CHAIR OF THE FED, YES HE THIS CATEGORY THAT WILL INCLUDE THE CHAIR OF THE FED, YES HE COULD DO BETTER, I WOULD LIKE TO THE CHAIR OF THE FED, YES HE COULD DO BETTER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE JANET YELLEN THE VICE CHAIR COULD DO BETTER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE JANET YELLEN THE VICE CHAIR OF THE FEDS TO BE APPOINTED.

SEE JANET YELLEN THE VICE CHAIR OF THE FEDS TO BE APPOINTED.

I THINK IT WOULD IN IN BE OF THE FEDS TO BE APPOINTED.

I THINK IT WOULD IN IN BE INTRIGUE CAN TO HAVE A FEMALE TO I THINK IT WOULD IN IN BE INTRIGUE CAN TO HAVE A FEMALE TO SAY THAT OBAMA HAS NOT PERFORMED INTRIGUE CAN TO HAVE A FEMALE TO SAY THAT OBAMA HAS NOT PERFORMED IN TERMS OF FEMALE APPOINTMENTS SAY THAT OBAMA HAS NOT PERFORMED IN TERMS OF FEMALE APPOINTMENTS -- IN TERMS OF FEMALE APPOINTMENTS -- >> WAIT A SECOND.

-- >> WAIT A SECOND.

RUTH HAD REALLY GOOD POINT ON -- >> WAIT A SECOND.

RUTH HAD REALLY GOOD POINT ON -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIS SECOND RUTH HAD REALLY GOOD POINT ON -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIS SECOND TERM, HIS FIRST TERM BECAUSE HE WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIS SECOND TERM, HIS FIRST TERM BECAUSE HE RAN THE FIRST TIME WANTED TO WIN TERM, HIS FIRST TERM BECAUSE HE RAN THE FIRST TIME WANTED TO WIN A SEC TIME HE DID MUCH BETTER RAN THE FIRST TIME WANTED TO WIN A SEC TIME HE DID MUCH BETTER JOB AND BASICALLY SAID THE HECK A SEC TIME HE DID MUCH BETTER JOB AND BASICALLY SAID THE HECK WITH YOU, THE WOMEN IN HIS BATCH JOB AND BASICALLY SAID THE HECK WITH YOU, THE WOMEN IN HIS BATCH OF SECOND APPOINTMENTS.

WITH YOU, THE WOMEN IN HIS BATCH OF SECOND APPOINTMENTS.

AND HE BROKE NO NEW GROUND AND OF SECOND APPOINTMENTS.

AND HE BROKE NO NEW GROUND AND YOU MAY SAY THAT THERE ARE AND HE BROKE NO NEW GROUND AND YOU MAY SAY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO -- AMERICANS YOU MAY SAY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO -- AMERICANS AREN'T -- DON'T CARE ABUT PEOPLE WHO -- AMERICANS AREN'T -- DON'T CARE ABUT QUOTAS, GREAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE AREN'T -- DON'T CARE ABUT QUOTAS, GREAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE WOMEN WHO ELECTED HIM DO WANT TO QUOTAS, GREAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE WOMEN WHO ELECTED HIM DO WANT TO SEE A PAY BACK.

WOMEN WHO ELECTED HIM DO WANT TO SEE A PAY BACK.

HE GOT -- DIDN'T GET THE WHITE SEE A PAY BACK.

HE GOT -- DIDN'T GET THE WHITE MARRIED WOMEN'S VOTE THAT ALWAYS HE GOT -- DIDN'T GET THE WHITE MARRIED WOMEN'S VOTE THAT ALWAYS GOES REPUBLICAN.

MARRIED WOMEN'S VOTE THAT ALWAYS GOES REPUBLICAN.

BUT HE GOT EVERYBODY ELSE.

GOES REPUBLICAN.

BUT HE GOT EVERYBODY ELSE.

OLDER, WHITE WIDOWS, SINGLE BUT HE GOT EVERYBODY ELSE.

OLDER, WHITE WIDOWS, SINGLE WHITE WOMEN, SINGLE WOMEN OF OLDER, WHITE WIDOWS, SINGLE WHITE WOMEN, SINGLE WOMEN OF COLOR, MARRIED WOMEN OF COLOR.

WHITE WOMEN, SINGLE WOMEN OF COLOR, MARRIED WOMEN OF COLOR.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS COLOR, MARRIED WOMEN OF COLOR.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS AND THEY DO CARE.

>> BUT THIS IS AN INSIDE THE AND THEY DO CARE.

>> BUT THIS IS AN INSIDE THE BELTWAY KIND OF DEBATE.

MOST AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED BELTWAY KIND OF DEBATE.

MOST AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED WITH THE KINDS EVER DECISION MOST AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED WITH THE KINDS EVER DECISION THAT CABINET HOLDERS, OFFICE WITH THE KINDS EVER DECISION THAT CABINET HOLDERS, OFFICE HOLDERS ARE MAKING THAT'S WHAT THAT CABINET HOLDERS, OFFICE HOLDERS ARE MAKING THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT THE HOLDERS ARE MAKING THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT THE IDENTITY POLITIC, IS THAT WE'RE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT THE IDENTITY POLITIC, IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IDENTITY POLITIC, IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

TALKING ABOUT.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

THERE WAS A LOT OF HOPE WITH THE >> I DON'T KNOW.

THERE WAS A LOT OF HOPE WITH THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, WE WERE THERE WAS A LOT OF HOPE WITH THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT JUST THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT JUST THE WHOLE SORT OF GROTESQUE SEXISM TALKING EARLIER ABOUT JUST THE WHOLE SORT OF GROTESQUE SEXISM OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE LAST WHOLE SORT OF GROTESQUE SEXISM OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE LAST ELECTION HOW MUCH IT COST THEM.

OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE LAST ELECTION HOW MUCH IT COST THEM.

I THINK WITH OBAMA YOU SAW THIS ELECTION HOW MUCH IT COST THEM.

I THINK WITH OBAMA YOU SAW THIS IDEA OF THIS PROGRESSIVE FUTURE, I THINK WITH OBAMA YOU SAW THIS IDEA OF THIS PROGRESSIVE FUTURE, MULTI-RACIAL AND THAT WAS GENDER IDEA OF THIS PROGRESSIVE FUTURE, MULTI-RACIAL AND THAT WAS GENDER EQUAL AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO MULTI-RACIAL AND THAT WAS GENDER EQUAL AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT EQUAL AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE SAME WHITE GUYS SEE THAT BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE SAME WHITE GUYS -- YOU HAVE IS THE SAME WHITE GUYS -- >> I THINK AMERICANS WANT VERY -- >> I THINK AMERICANS WANT VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

>> I THINK AMERICANS WANT VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

LOOK AT HOW AMAZING HILLARY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

LOOK AT HOW AMAZING HILLARY CLINTON WAS REGARD L OF GENDER LOOK AT HOW AMAZING HILLARY CLINTON WAS REGARD L OF GENDER SHE WAS TERRIFIC.

CLINTON WAS REGARD L OF GENDER SHE WAS TERRIFIC.

I THINK PEOPLE WANT REALLY SHE WAS TERRIFIC.

I THINK PEOPLE WANT REALLY HIGHLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

I'M JAM KNEES-IRISH THERE ARE NO HIGHLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

I'M JAM KNEES-IRISH THERE ARE NO JAPANESE-IRISH IN THE CABINET.

PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK BEYOND THAT.

JAPANESE-IRISH IN THE CABINET.

PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK BEYOND THAT.

IT MAC ME UNCOMFORTABLE TO PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK BEYOND THAT.

IT MAC ME UNCOMFORTABLE TO DEFEND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IT MAC ME UNCOMFORTABLE TO DEFEND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HE HAS BEEN FORTUNATE THAT HE DEFEND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HE HAS BEEN FORTUNATE THAT HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAP PEOPLE FOR HE HAS BEEN FORTUNATE THAT HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAP PEOPLE FOR THESE CABINET-LEVEL POSITIONS A HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAP PEOPLE FOR THESE CABINET-LEVEL POSITIONS A LOT OF WHOM GOT THEIR START CAME THESE CABINET-LEVEL POSITIONS A LOT OF WHOM GOT THEIR START CAME UP THROUGH THE RANKS UNDER THE LOT OF WHOM GOT THEIR START CAME UP THROUGH THE RANKS UNDER THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

UP THROUGH THE RANKS UNDER THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE COME FROM CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE COME FROM WHERE THERE IS MUCH DEEPER BENCH I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE COME FROM WHERE THERE IS MUCH DEEPER BENCH THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WHERE THERE IS MUCH DEEPER BENCH THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK REPUBLICANS NEED TO BUILD ON.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK REPUBLICANS NEED TO BUILD ON.

>> THIS ARGUMENT OF QUALIFIED REPUBLICANS NEED TO BUILD ON.

>> THIS ARGUMENT OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE DRIVES ME TO INSANITY.

>> EVERYBODY IS NOT QUALIFIED.

PEOPLE DRIVES ME TO INSANITY.

>> EVERYBODY IS NOT QUALIFIED.

>> THE OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE I >> EVERYBODY IS NOT QUALIFIED.

>> THE OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE I CLOUDS PLENTY OF WOMEN THAT IS >> THE OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE I CLOUDS PLENTY OF WOMEN THAT IS NOT -- CLOUDS PLENTY OF WOMEN THAT IS NOT -- >> THAT IS JUST THE ARGUMENT NOT -- >> THAT IS JUST THE ARGUMENT THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE HEARING >> THAT IS JUST THE ARGUMENT THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE HEARING ABOUT JANET YELLEN AND AS VICE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE HEARING ABOUT JANET YELLEN AND AS VICE CHAIR OF THE FED AS SOMEBODY WHO ABOUT JANET YELLEN AND AS VICE CHAIR OF THE FED AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT AT BEING CHAIR OF THE FED AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT AT BEING MUCH MORE COLLABORATIVE THINKER, HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT AT BEING MUCH MORE COLLABORATIVE THINKER, SUMMERS MAKES QUITE FRANKLY MUCH MORE COLLABORATIVE THINKER, SUMMERS MAKES QUITE FRANKLY STUPID DECISIONS, HE WAS DRUMMED SUMMERS MAKES QUITE FRANKLY STUPID DECISIONS, HE WAS DRUMMED OUT OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY, HE IS STUPID DECISIONS, HE WAS DRUMMED OUT OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY, HE IS A VERY SELF IMPORTANT KIND OF OUT OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY, HE IS A VERY SELF IMPORTANT KIND OF GUY.

A VERY SELF IMPORTANT KIND OF GUY.

AND HE MAY BE BRILLIANT BUT HE'S GUY.

AND HE MAY BE BRILLIANT BUT HE'S ABRASIVE AND YOU DON'T EVEN WANT AND HE MAY BE BRILLIANT BUT HE'S ABRASIVE AND YOU DON'T EVEN WANT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT IN THE -- ABRASIVE AND YOU DON'T EVEN WANT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT IN THE -- RUNNING THE FED WHOSE POSITION SOMEBODY LIKE THAT IN THE -- RUNNING THE FED WHOSE POSITION REALLY CONTROLS THE U.S. RUNNING THE FED WHOSE POSITION REALLY CONTROLS THE U.S. ECONOMY.

REALLY CONTROLS THE U.S. ECONOMY.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

ECONOMY.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

I TOTALLY OPPOSE SUMMERS' >> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

I TOTALLY OPPOSE SUMMERS' APPOINTMENT I WAS INCREDIBLY I TOTALLY OPPOSE SUMMERS' APPOINTMENT I WAS INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY -- HE'S APPOINTMENT I WAS INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY -- HE'S PUSHING HIS NOMINATION.

DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY -- HE'S PUSHING HIS NOMINATION.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY, PUSHING HIS NOMINATION.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY, USE THAT TO SAY THAT OBAMA IS BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY, USE THAT TO SAY THAT OBAMA IS NOT APPOINTING WOMEN AND NOT USE THAT TO SAY THAT OBAMA IS NOT APPOINTING WOMEN AND NOT SENSITIVE TO WOMEN.

NOT APPOINTING WOMEN AND NOT SENSITIVE TO WOMEN.

HE'S APPOINTED PLENTY OF WOMEN, SENSITIVE TO WOMEN.

HE'S APPOINTED PLENTY OF WOMEN, HE COULD DO BETTER, ABSOLUTELY.

LARRY SUMMERS IS A COMPLETELY HE COULD DO BETTER, ABSOLUTELY.

LARRY SUMMERS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

>> WE NEED MORE ELIZABETH DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

>> WE NEED MORE ELIZABETH WARREN.

THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT QUOTAS OR WARREN.

THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT QUOTAS OR NOT SOME KIND OF PC THING IT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT QUOTAS OR NOT SOME KIND OF PC THING IT'S LET'S GET THESE GUYS WHO HAVE NOT SOME KIND OF PC THING IT'S LET'S GET THESE GUYS WHO HAVE HAD HAMMER LOCK ON POWER AND LET'S GET THESE GUYS WHO HAVE HAD HAMMER LOCK ON POWER AND TRASHED OUR ECONOMY.

HAD HAMMER LOCK ON POWER AND TRASHED OUR ECONOMY.

>> ONE LAST THING, OBAMA IN TRASHED OUR ECONOMY.

>> ONE LAST THING, OBAMA IN DECEMBER, JANUARY OF THIS YEAR >> ONE LAST THING, OBAMA IN DECEMBER, JANUARY OF THIS YEAR THE "NEW YORK TIMES" RAN A PIECE DECEMBER, JANUARY OF THIS YEAR THE "NEW YORK TIMES" RAN A PIECE IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHEN HE HAD THE "NEW YORK TIMES" RAN A PIECE IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHEN HE HAD ALL CONGRESSIONAL, TOP IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHEN HE HAD ALL CONGRESSIONAL, TOP CONGRESSIONAL ADVISORS IN THE ALL CONGRESSIONAL, TOP CONGRESSIONAL ADVISORS IN THE OVAL OFFICE WAS OBVIOUSLY LATE CONGRESSIONAL ADVISORS IN THE OVAL OFFICE WAS OBVIOUSLY LATE NIGHT OR WEEKEND ALL IN JEANS OVAL OFFICE WAS OBVIOUSLY LATE NIGHT OR WEEKEND ALL IN JEANS AND CASUAL OUTFITS, THERE WERE NIGHT OR WEEKEND ALL IN JEANS AND CASUAL OUTFITS, THERE WERE TEN GUYS ALL YOU COULD SEE WAS AND CASUAL OUTFITS, THERE WERE TEN GUYS ALL YOU COULD SEE WAS DOMESTIC ADVISOR VALERIE TEN GUYS ALL YOU COULD SEE WAS DOMESTIC ADVISOR VALERIE JARRET'S LEG BEHIND THE GUYS.

DOMESTIC ADVISOR VALERIE JARRET'S LEG BEHIND THE GUYS.

HE WAS DRAWN, BECAUSE THAT HAVE JARRET'S LEG BEHIND THE GUYS.

HE WAS DRAWN, BECAUSE THAT HAVE FREETHROW TOE HE WAS DRAWN IN TO HE WAS DRAWN, BECAUSE THAT HAVE FREETHROW TOE HE WAS DRAWN IN TO THE ARGUMENT SAID, WAIT, WAIT FREETHROW TOE HE WAS DRAWN IN TO THE ARGUMENT SAID, WAIT, WAIT UNTIL I'VE DONE ALL MY THE ARGUMENT SAID, WAIT, WAIT UNTIL I'VE DONE ALL MY APPOINTMENTS YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT UNTIL I'VE DONE ALL MY APPOINTMENTS YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.

APPOINTMENTS YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

YET.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND REALLY SINCE THEN HAS HE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND REALLY SINCE THEN HAS HE MADE UP FOR IT.

>> NO.

MADE UP FOR IT.

>> NO.

>> I THINK THE POINT THAT THE >> NO.

>> I THINK THE POINT THAT THE CLINTON ADMINISTERING REALLY >> I THINK THE POINT THAT THE CLINTON ADMINISTERING REALLY GAVE HIM THIS BENCH TO WORK WITH CLINTON ADMINISTERING REALLY GAVE HIM THIS BENCH TO WORK WITH IS REALLY THE RELEVANT POINT.

GAVE HIM THIS BENCH TO WORK WITH IS REALLY THE RELEVANT POINT.

BECAUSE THERE IS THIS INCREDIBLE IS REALLY THE RELEVANT POINT.

BECAUSE THERE IS THIS INCREDIBLE POOL OF TALENT THERE AND, YES, BECAUSE THERE IS THIS INCREDIBLE POOL OF TALENT THERE AND, YES, IT'S TRUE, JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS POOL OF TALENT THERE AND, YES, IT'S TRUE, JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS ARE LOOKING BETTER AND THERE'S IT'S TRUE, JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS ARE LOOKING BETTER AND THERE'S SOME KIND OF SECOND TIER OF ARE LOOKING BETTER AND THERE'S SOME KIND OF SECOND TIER OF WOMEN BUT AT THE TOP -- SOME KIND OF SECOND TIER OF WOMEN BUT AT THE TOP -- >> I HAVE TO AGREE.

WOMEN BUT AT THE TOP -- >> I HAVE TO AGREE.

I WISH HE WOULD DO BETTER AT THE >> I HAVE TO AGREE.

I WISH HE WOULD DO BETTER AT THE VERY TOP.

>> ALL RIGHT.

VERY TOP.

>> ALL RIGHT.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: >> ALL RIGHT.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: BALANCING WORK AND FAMILY LIFE BEHIND THE HEADLINES: BALANCING WORK AND FAMILY LIFE FOR MOST AMERICANS IS TOUGH.

BALANCING WORK AND FAMILY LIFE FOR MOST AMERICANS IS TOUGH.

WITH THE FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE FOR MOST AMERICANS IS TOUGH.

WITH THE FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT TURNING 20 THIS MONTH, WITH THE FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT TURNING 20 THIS MONTH, WORKING MOTHER MEDIA'S PRESIDENT ACT TURNING 20 THIS MONTH, WORKING MOTHER MEDIA'S PRESIDENT CAROL EVANS SAYS UNPAID LEAVE IS WORKING MOTHER MEDIA'S PRESIDENT CAROL EVANS SAYS UNPAID LEAVE IS A GOOD START, BUT FAMILIES NEED CAROL EVANS SAYS UNPAID LEAVE IS A GOOD START, BUT FAMILIES NEED MORE.

A GOOD START, BUT FAMILIES NEED MORE.

>> IT'S BEEN A SLOW, IMPOSSIBLE MORE.

>> IT'S BEEN A SLOW, IMPOSSIBLE GRIND, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO >> IT'S BEEN A SLOW, IMPOSSIBLE GRIND, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE VERY MUCH.

GRIND, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE VERY MUCH.

FMLA HAS REALLY HELPED WOMEN MOVE THE NEEDLE VERY MUCH.

FMLA HAS REALLY HELPED WOMEN TREMENDOUSLY BUT WITHOUT THE FMLA HAS REALLY HELPED WOMEN TREMENDOUSLY BUT WITHOUT THE MANDATE OF PAID LEAVE.

TREMENDOUSLY BUT WITHOUT THE MANDATE OF PAID LEAVE.

IT CREATES HUGE INEQUALITIES.

MANDATE OF PAID LEAVE.

IT CREATES HUGE INEQUALITIES.

>> THE LENGTH OF A WOMAN'S IT CREATES HUGE INEQUALITIES.

>> THE LENGTH OF A WOMAN'S MATERNITY LEAVE DEPENDS ON WHAT >> THE LENGTH OF A WOMAN'S MATERNITY LEAVE DEPENDS ON WHAT HER FINANCIAL SITUATION.

MATERNITY LEAVE DEPENDS ON WHAT HER FINANCIAL SITUATION.

>> WOMEN ARE NOT ABLE IN MANY HER FINANCIAL SITUATION.

>> WOMEN ARE NOT ABLE IN MANY CASES TO TAKE THE FULL 12 WEEKS >> WOMEN ARE NOT ABLE IN MANY CASES TO TAKE THE FULL 12 WEEKS OF MANDATED MATERNITY LEAVE CASES TO TAKE THE FULL 12 WEEKS OF MANDATED MATERNITY LEAVE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GIVE UP THEIR OF MANDATED MATERNITY LEAVE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GIVE UP THEIR PAYCHECKS.

BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GIVE UP THEIR PAYCHECKS.

AND THE LOWER THE INCOME OF A PAYCHECKS.

AND THE LOWER THE INCOME OF A WOMAN, THE LESS LIKELY SHE IS AND THE LOWER THE INCOME OF A WOMAN, THE LESS LIKELY SHE IS ABLE TO TAKE THE MINISCULE KIND WOMAN, THE LESS LIKELY SHE IS ABLE TO TAKE THE MINISCULE KIND OF TIME THAT FMLA OFFERS.

ABLE TO TAKE THE MINISCULE KIND OF TIME THAT FMLA OFFERS.

>> EVANS SAYS AS A RESULT THESE OF TIME THAT FMLA OFFERS.

>> EVANS SAYS AS A RESULT THESE WOMEN LOSE TIME WITH THEIR >> EVANS SAYS AS A RESULT THESE WOMEN LOSE TIME WITH THEIR NEWBORNS.

WOMEN LOSE TIME WITH THEIR NEWBORNS.

>> THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK NEWBORNS.

>> THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK BEFORE THEY BONDED WITH THEIR >> THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK BEFORE THEY BONDED WITH THEIR CHILD, BEFORE THEY'VE RECOVERED BEFORE THEY BONDED WITH THEIR CHILD, BEFORE THEY'VE RECOVERED FROM THE BIRTH OF THEIR CHILD, CHILD, BEFORE THEY'VE RECOVERED FROM THE BIRTH OF THEIR CHILD, BEFORE THEY'RE PSYCHOLOGICALLY FROM THE BIRTH OF THEIR CHILD, BEFORE THEY'RE PSYCHOLOGICALLY READY TO WALK OUT THAT DOOR AND BEFORE THEY'RE PSYCHOLOGICALLY READY TO WALK OUT THAT DOOR AND LEAVE THAT CHILD IN THE CARE OF READY TO WALK OUT THAT DOOR AND LEAVE THAT CHILD IN THE CARE OF SOMEONE ELSE.

LEAVE THAT CHILD IN THE CARE OF SOMEONE ELSE.

>> CALIFORNIA, NEW JERSEY, SOMEONE ELSE.

>> CALIFORNIA, NEW JERSEY, RHODE ISLAND PROVIDE PARTIAL >> CALIFORNIA, NEW JERSEY, RHODE ISLAND PROVIDE PARTIAL WAGES TO NEW MOMS USING A RHODE ISLAND PROVIDE PARTIAL WAGES TO NEW MOMS USING A VARIETY OF PAYROLL TAX AND WAGES TO NEW MOMS USING A VARIETY OF PAYROLL TAX AND INSURANCE PROGRAMS.

VARIETY OF PAYROLL TAX AND INSURANCE PROGRAMS.

WOMEN ARE BEING OFFERED ON INSURANCE PROGRAMS.

WOMEN ARE BEING OFFERED ON AVERAGE SEVEN WEEKS OF PAID WOMEN ARE BEING OFFERED ON AVERAGE SEVEN WEEKS OF PAID MATERNITY LEAVE AT THE BEST AVERAGE SEVEN WEEKS OF PAID MATERNITY LEAVE AT THE BEST COMPANIES.

MATERNITY LEAVE AT THE BEST COMPANIES.

FIVE WEEKS COMPANIES.

FIVE WEEKS OF ADOPTIVE LEAVE AND THREE FIVE WEEKS OF ADOPTIVE LEAVE AND THREE WEEKS PATERNITY LEAVE.

OF ADOPTIVE LEAVE AND THREE WEEKS PATERNITY LEAVE.

THE BIG STATISTIC THAT YOU WANT WEEKS PATERNITY LEAVE.

THE BIG STATISTIC THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT ONLY 16% THE BIG STATISTIC THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT ONLY 16% OF ALL COMPANIES OFFER ANY PAID TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT ONLY 16% OF ALL COMPANIES OFFER ANY PAID MATERNITY OR PATERNITY LEAVE.

OF ALL COMPANIES OFFER ANY PAID MATERNITY OR PATERNITY LEAVE.

>> WHEN NEW PARENTS TAKE PAID OR MATERNITY OR PATERNITY LEAVE.

>> WHEN NEW PARENTS TAKE PAID OR UNPAID LEAVE, COMPANIES MUST PAY >> WHEN NEW PARENTS TAKE PAID OR UNPAID LEAVE, COMPANIES MUST PAY TO REPLACE THEM.

UNPAID LEAVE, COMPANIES MUST PAY TO REPLACE THEM.

>> COMPANIES HAVE TO REPLACE TO REPLACE THEM.

>> COMPANIES HAVE TO REPLACE THAT PERSON'S TIME FOR THOSE 12 >> COMPANIES HAVE TO REPLACE THAT PERSON'S TIME FOR THOSE 12 WEEKS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GIVING THAT PERSON'S TIME FOR THOSE 12 WEEKS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GIVING OR THEY HAVE TO DO WORK AROUND WEEKS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GIVING OR THEY HAVE TO DO WORK AROUND WHICH IS VERY, VERY COMMON.

OR THEY HAVE TO DO WORK AROUND WHICH IS VERY, VERY COMMON.

AND YOU KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE NEW WHICH IS VERY, VERY COMMON.

AND YOU KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE NEW JOB CATEGORY OF MATERNITY LEAVE AND YOU KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE NEW JOB CATEGORY OF MATERNITY LEAVE REPLACEMENTS.

JOB CATEGORY OF MATERNITY LEAVE REPLACEMENTS.

>> EVANS SAYS IT'S CRITICAL TO REPLACEMENTS.

>> EVANS SAYS IT'S CRITICAL TO MAKE COMPANIES AWARE OF THE >> EVANS SAYS IT'S CRITICAL TO MAKE COMPANIES AWARE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY MAKE COMPANIES AWARE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY GIVE EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THEY GET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY GIVE EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THEY GET BACK.

GIVE EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THEY GET BACK.

>> WHEN A COMPANY OFFERS A BACK.

>> WHEN A COMPANY OFFERS A FULL, STRONG MATERNITY LEAVE >> WHEN A COMPANY OFFERS A FULL, STRONG MATERNITY LEAVE POLICY AND PAID AND THE WOMAN FULL, STRONG MATERNITY LEAVE POLICY AND PAID AND THE WOMAN GOES OUT AND TAKES HER 12 WEEKS, POLICY AND PAID AND THE WOMAN GOES OUT AND TAKES HER 12 WEEKS, WHAT THEY GET IS A PERSON WHO GOES OUT AND TAKES HER 12 WEEKS, WHAT THEY GET IS A PERSON WHO COMES BACK STRONG, READY TO WORK WHAT THEY GET IS A PERSON WHO COMES BACK STRONG, READY TO WORK WITH ALL THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND ALL COMES BACK STRONG, READY TO WORK WITH ALL THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND ALL THEIR EXPERIENCE IN TACT, AND WITH ALL THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND ALL THEIR EXPERIENCE IN TACT, AND VERY DEDICATED AND LOYAL TO THAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IN TACT, AND VERY DEDICATED AND LOYAL TO THAT COMPANY.

VERY DEDICATED AND LOYAL TO THAT COMPANY.

>> EVANS WANTS EMPLOYEES TO PAY COMPANY.

>> EVANS WANTS EMPLOYEES TO PAY INTO A COMPANY FUND.

IF EMPLOYEES NEED TO TAKE LEAVE, INTO A COMPANY FUND.

IF EMPLOYEES NEED TO TAKE LEAVE, THEY'LL DRAW A PERCENTAGE OF IF EMPLOYEES NEED TO TAKE LEAVE, THEY'LL DRAW A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SALARY FROM THAT FUND.

THEY'LL DRAW A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SALARY FROM THAT FUND.

AND TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS, THEIR SALARY FROM THAT FUND.

AND TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS, SHE'S LAUNCHED A PETITION.

>> WE ALL THOUGHT THAT MANDATED SHE'S LAUNCHED A PETITION.

>> WE ALL THOUGHT THAT MANDATED PAID LEAVE WAS THE NEXT STEP, WE >> WE ALL THOUGHT THAT MANDATED PAID LEAVE WAS THE NEXT STEP, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT TAKE TWO OR PAID LEAVE WAS THE NEXT STEP, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS WHEN THIS WAS PASSED THOUGHT IT MIGHT TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS WHEN THIS WAS PASSED 20 YEARS AGO.

THREE YEARS WHEN THIS WAS PASSED 20 YEARS AGO.

AND THE FACT THAT IT HASN'T 20 YEARS AGO.

AND THE FACT THAT IT HASN'T PASSED IS PRETTY APPALLING TO AND THE FACT THAT IT HASN'T PASSED IS PRETTY APPALLING TO ALL OF US.

PASSED IS PRETTY APPALLING TO ALL OF US.

WE HAVE A PETITION ON ALL OF US.

WE HAVE A PETITION ON WORKINGMOTHER.COM, AND THE WE HAVE A PETITION ON WORKINGMOTHER.COM, AND THE PETITION IS FOR WOMEN AND MEN, WORKINGMOTHER.COM, AND THE PETITION IS FOR WOMEN AND MEN, EVERYONE, TO SIGN, TO REQUEST, PETITION IS FOR WOMEN AND MEN, EVERYONE, TO SIGN, TO REQUEST, DEMAND THAT CONGRESS PASS PAID EVERYONE, TO SIGN, TO REQUEST, DEMAND THAT CONGRESS PASS PAID LEAVE.

DEMAND THAT CONGRESS PASS PAID LEAVE.

>> EVANS SAYS IT'S EMBARRASSING LEAVE.

>> EVANS SAYS IT'S EMBARRASSING THAT THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF >> EVANS SAYS IT'S EMBARRASSING THAT THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF THREE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF THREE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WITHOUT PAID LEAVE.

THREE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WITHOUT PAID LEAVE.

SHE SAYS CHANGE IS ALL ABOUT WITHOUT PAID LEAVE.

SHE SAYS CHANGE IS ALL ABOUT PERCENTAGES.

>> WOMEN ARE STILL ONLY 20% OF PERCENTAGES.

>> WOMEN ARE STILL ONLY 20% OF CONGRESS, I MEAN IT'S A BIG >> WOMEN ARE STILL ONLY 20% OF CONGRESS, I MEAN IT'S A BIG HOORAY, HOORAY WE'RE 20% OF CONGRESS, I MEAN IT'S A BIG HOORAY, HOORAY WE'RE 20% OF CONGRESS, IT'S ALSO AN APPALLING HOORAY, HOORAY WE'RE 20% OF CONGRESS, IT'S ALSO AN APPALLING NUMBER.

CONGRESS, IT'S ALSO AN APPALLING NUMBER.

WE'RE 50% OF THE POPULATION, NUMBER.

WE'RE 50% OF THE POPULATION, WE'RE 50% OF THE WORKFORCE.

MORE THAN 50% OF THE COLLEGE WE'RE 50% OF THE WORKFORCE.

MORE THAN 50% OF THE COLLEGE GRADUATES.

WE ALL CELEBRATED WHEN WE GRADUATES.

WE ALL CELEBRATED WHEN WE REACHED 20% BECAUSE THAT'S A WE ALL CELEBRATED WHEN WE REACHED 20% BECAUSE THAT'S A MILESTONE.

REACHED 20% BECAUSE THAT'S A MILESTONE.

BUT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE POWER IN MILESTONE.

BUT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE POWER IN THIS COUNTRY, POLITICALLY, AND BUT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE POWER IN THIS COUNTRY, POLITICALLY, AND SO FOR THE MANDATED PAID LEAVE THIS COUNTRY, POLITICALLY, AND SO FOR THE MANDATED PAID LEAVE TO PASS WE REALLY HAVE TO GET A SO FOR THE MANDATED PAID LEAVE TO PASS WE REALLY HAVE TO GET A LOT MORE WOMEN INTO CONGRESS.

TO PASS WE REALLY HAVE TO GET A LOT MORE WOMEN INTO CONGRESS.

>> WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THIS LOT MORE WOMEN INTO CONGRESS.

>> WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION HOW DO WE HELP WOMEN >> WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION HOW DO WE HELP WOMEN TAKE LEAVE WHEN THEY HAVE QUESTION HOW DO WE HELP WOMEN TAKE LEAVE WHEN THEY HAVE CHILDREN AND IS THERE FEDERAL TAKE LEAVE WHEN THEY HAVE CHILDREN AND IS THERE FEDERAL TAX NEEDED OR FEDERAL PROGRAM OR CHILDREN AND IS THERE FEDERAL TAX NEEDED OR FEDERAL PROGRAM OR SHE MENTIONED SHOULD IT COME TAX NEEDED OR FEDERAL PROGRAM OR SHE MENTIONED SHOULD IT COME FROM CORPORATIONS?

SHE MENTIONED SHOULD IT COME FROM CORPORATIONS?

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT FROM CORPORATIONS?

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT A FEDERAL MANDATORY ONE SIZE >> YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT A FEDERAL MANDATORY ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH TO THIS GOING A FEDERAL MANDATORY ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH TO THIS GOING TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF FITS ALL APPROACH TO THIS GOING TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EMPLOYEES OR EMPLOYERS.

TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EMPLOYEES OR EMPLOYERS.

WE NEED TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT EMPLOYEES OR EMPLOYERS.

WE NEED TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH EMPLOYERS AND THEIR WE NEED TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH EMPLOYERS AND THEIR WORKERS CAN COME TOGETHER ON IN WHICH EMPLOYERS AND THEIR WORKERS CAN COME TOGETHER ON AGREEMENTS THAT WORK AND CAN BE WORKERS CAN COME TOGETHER ON AGREEMENTS THAT WORK AND CAN BE MOST CUSTOMIZED TO THE NEEDS OF AGREEMENTS THAT WORK AND CAN BE MOST CUSTOMIZED TO THE NEEDS OF WORKING MOMS.

MOST CUSTOMIZED TO THE NEEDS OF WORKING MOMS.

THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THE KIND WORKING MOMS.

THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THE KIND OF APPROACH THAT WILL BEST SERVE THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW THE KIND OF APPROACH THAT WILL BEST SERVE HER NEEDS.

OF APPROACH THAT WILL BEST SERVE HER NEEDS.

>> I HAVE TO SAY VOLUNTARY HER NEEDS.

>> I HAVE TO SAY VOLUNTARY ANSWERS IS OKAY UNTIL YOU ARE IN >> I HAVE TO SAY VOLUNTARY ANSWERS IS OKAY UNTIL YOU ARE IN NEED OF THE BENEFIT.

ANSWERS IS OKAY UNTIL YOU ARE IN NEED OF THE BENEFIT.

I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEBATE NEED OF THE BENEFIT.

I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEBATE WHILE IT WAS GOING ON IN I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEBATE WHILE IT WAS GOING ON IN NEW YORK CITY THEY WERE TRYING WHILE IT WAS GOING ON IN NEW YORK CITY THEY WERE TRYING TO AUTHORIZE AND DID AUTHORIZE NEW YORK CITY THEY WERE TRYING TO AUTHORIZE AND DID AUTHORIZE THE PAID LEAVE, MAIN ISSUE WAS TO AUTHORIZE AND DID AUTHORIZE THE PAID LEAVE, MAIN ISSUE WAS THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING SICK TO THE PAID LEAVE, MAIN ISSUE WAS THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING SICK TO THE WORKPLACE THEY WERE PUTTING THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING SICK TO THE WORKPLACE THEY WERE PUTTING LARGER POPULATION AT RISK THE WORKPLACE THEY WERE PUTTING LARGER POPULATION AT RISK BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY HAD NO LARGER POPULATION AT RISK BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY HAD NO CHOICE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE PAID BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY HAD NO CHOICE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE PAID LEAVE BENEFIT.

CHOICE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE PAID LEAVE BENEFIT.

IT'S A VERY CRITICAL ISSUE FOR LEAVE BENEFIT.

IT'S A VERY CRITICAL ISSUE FOR THE LARGER COMMUNITY NOT JUST IT'S A VERY CRITICAL ISSUE FOR THE LARGER COMMUNITY NOT JUST FOR THE INDIVIDUALS.

THE LARGER COMMUNITY NOT JUST FOR THE INDIVIDUALS.

>> IT'S INTERESTING, 9:00 TO FOR THE INDIVIDUALS.

>> IT'S INTERESTING, 9:00 TO 5:00 HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK ON >> IT'S INTERESTING, 9:00 TO 5:00 HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT PRESSURING LOCAL 5:00 HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT PRESSURING LOCAL COMMUNITIES, HAVING REFERENDUM, THAT PRESSURING LOCAL COMMUNITIES, HAVING REFERENDUM, OVERWHELMING SUPPORT IN PLACE COMMUNITIES, HAVING REFERENDUM, OVERWHELMING SUPPORT IN PLACE LIKE MILWAUKEE AND NEW YORK TO OVERWHELMING SUPPORT IN PLACE LIKE MILWAUKEE AND NEW YORK TO PROVIDE SOME BASIC MEDICAL LIKE MILWAUKEE AND NEW YORK TO PROVIDE SOME BASIC MEDICAL COVERAGE AND FAMILY LEAVE FOR PROVIDE SOME BASIC MEDICAL COVERAGE AND FAMILY LEAVE FOR LOW INCOME WORKING FOLKS.

COVERAGE AND FAMILY LEAVE FOR LOW INCOME WORKING FOLKS.

PART LEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT LOW INCOME WORKING FOLKS.

PART LEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR BURGER FLIPPERS TO BE PART LEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR BURGER FLIPPERS TO BE COMMUNICATING THEIR DISEASES TO OUR BURGER FLIPPERS TO BE COMMUNICATING THEIR DISEASES TO US BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO TO COMMUNICATING THEIR DISEASES TO US BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO TO WORK SICK BECAUSE HALF OF WOMEN US BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO TO WORK SICK BECAUSE HALF OF WOMEN CAN'T TAKE A SINGLE DAY OFF WHEN WORK SICK BECAUSE HALF OF WOMEN CAN'T TAKE A SINGLE DAY OFF WHEN THEY HAVE A SICK CHILD.

CAN'T TAKE A SINGLE DAY OFF WHEN THEY HAVE A SICK CHILD.

BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLE THEY HAVE A SICK CHILD.

BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLE PRESSURE IT PUTS ON FAMILY THAT BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLE PRESSURE IT PUTS ON FAMILY THAT LITTLE TINY BABIES HAVE TO BE PRESSURE IT PUTS ON FAMILY THAT LITTLE TINY BABIES HAVE TO BE LEFT IN THIS COMPLETELY LITTLE TINY BABIES HAVE TO BE LEFT IN THIS COMPLETELY PRIVATIZED CHILD CARE SYSTEM, LEFT IN THIS COMPLETELY PRIVATIZED CHILD CARE SYSTEM, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT PRIVATIZED CHILD CARE SYSTEM, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE WELL CARED THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE WELL CARED FOR.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE WELL CARED FOR.

QUALITY OF CARE THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR.

QUALITY OF CARE THAT'S AVAILABLE IS REALLY LOW.

PEOPLE ARE UNDER TOO MUCH IS REALLY LOW.

PEOPLE ARE UNDER TOO MUCH STRESS.

>> YOU THINK THE ANSWER IS CITY, STRESS.

>> YOU THINK THE ANSWER IS CITY, STATE, FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED >> YOU THINK THE ANSWER IS CITY, STATE, FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED DAYCARE?

STATE, FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED DAYCARE?

>> THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK DAYCARE?

>> THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS THAT THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO >> THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS THAT THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE MINIMUM WAGE ARGUMENT.

IS THAT THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE MINIMUM WAGE ARGUMENT.

YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THE THE MINIMUM WAGE ARGUMENT.

YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD JUST BE HANDS YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD JUST BE HANDS OFF THIS SHOULD BE PRIVATE, THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD JUST BE HANDS OFF THIS SHOULD BE PRIVATE, THAT IS INCREASINGLY HARD ARGUMENT TO OFF THIS SHOULD BE PRIVATE, THAT IS INCREASINGLY HARD ARGUMENT TO MAKE.

IS INCREASINGLY HARD ARGUMENT TO MAKE.

WHEN THIS REALLY STRESSED MAKE.

WHEN THIS REALLY STRESSED WORKFORCE.

MINIMUM WAGE HAS GONE DOWN BY WORKFORCE.

MINIMUM WAGE HAS GONE DOWN BY 31% IN REAL DOLLARS SINCE I WAS MINIMUM WAGE HAS GONE DOWN BY 31% IN REAL DOLLARS SINCE I WAS BORN.

31% IN REAL DOLLARS SINCE I WAS BORN.

THE TOP 1% ARE MAKING 110% MORE.

BORN.

THE TOP 1% ARE MAKING 110% MORE.

THIS IS VALUES ISSUE, IT'S A HOW THE TOP 1% ARE MAKING 110% MORE.

THIS IS VALUES ISSUE, IT'S A HOW ARE WE ALLOCATING RESOURCES THIS IS VALUES ISSUE, IT'S A HOW ARE WE ALLOCATING RESOURCES ISSUE NOT ISSUE OF JUST ARE WE ALLOCATING RESOURCES ISSUE NOT ISSUE OF JUST SCARCITY.

ISSUE NOT ISSUE OF JUST SCARCITY.

WE ACTUALLY CAN HAVE MINIMUM SCARCITY.

WE ACTUALLY CAN HAVE MINIMUM WAGE WORKFORCE THAT CAN MAKE A WE ACTUALLY CAN HAVE MINIMUM WAGE WORKFORCE THAT CAN MAKE A LIVING WAGE AND WE ACTUALLY CAN WAGE WORKFORCE THAT CAN MAKE A LIVING WAGE AND WE ACTUALLY CAN PROVIDE PEOPLE THE BASIC SUPPORT LIVING WAGE AND WE ACTUALLY CAN PROVIDE PEOPLE THE BASIC SUPPORT SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK PROVIDE PEOPLE THE BASIC SUPPORT SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK SICK AND TINY BABIES ARE NOT IN SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK SICK AND TINY BABIES ARE NOT IN THE BASEMENT WITH THE TEENAGER SICK AND TINY BABIES ARE NOT IN THE BASEMENT WITH THE TEENAGER NEXT DOOR WHILE THEIR PARENTS THE BASEMENT WITH THE TEENAGER NEXT DOOR WHILE THEIR PARENTS WORK TWO JOBS.

NEXT DOOR WHILE THEIR PARENTS WORK TWO JOBS.

>> THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND WORK TWO JOBS.

>> THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE WORKFORCE IS VERY >> THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE WORKFORCE IS VERY DIVERSE WHAT WORKS FOR FREE THAT THE WORKFORCE IS VERY DIVERSE WHAT WORKS FOR FREE PLANS JOURNALIST IS NOT GOING TO DIVERSE WHAT WORKS FOR FREE PLANS JOURNALIST IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR AN HOURLY EMPLOYEE OR PLANS JOURNALIST IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR AN HOURLY EMPLOYEE OR LAWYER OR A CORPORATION.

WORK FOR AN HOURLY EMPLOYEE OR LAWYER OR A CORPORATION.

I LOVE TO HEAR -- LAWYER OR A CORPORATION.

I LOVE TO HEAR -- >> ISN'T IT GENERALLY TRUE, I LOVE TO HEAR -- >> ISN'T IT GENERALLY TRUE, THOUGH, WE'RE -- WOMEN DON'T >> ISN'T IT GENERALLY TRUE, THOUGH, WE'RE -- WOMEN DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

THOUGH, WE'RE -- WOMEN DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

MIDDLE INCOME WOMEN, YOU KNOW DO HAVE A PROBLEM.

MIDDLE INCOME WOMEN, YOU KNOW DO SOMEWHAT, BUT REALLY THE PEOPLE, MIDDLE INCOME WOMEN, YOU KNOW DO SOMEWHAT, BUT REALLY THE PEOPLE, THE BURGER FLIPPERS, THE HOME SOMEWHAT, BUT REALLY THE PEOPLE, THE BURGER FLIPPERS, THE HOME HEALTH CARE AIDES, THE HOURLY THE BURGER FLIPPERS, THE HOME HEALTH CARE AIDES, THE HOURLY WAGE WORKERS WITH NO BENEFITS HEALTH CARE AIDES, THE HOURLY WAGE WORKERS WITH NO BENEFITS AND NO PAID VACATION, THEY ARE WAGE WORKERS WITH NO BENEFITS AND NO PAID VACATION, THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE BIG PROBLEM AND NO PAID VACATION, THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE BIG PROBLEM HERE.

THE ONES WITH THE BIG PROBLEM HERE.

>> THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE HERE.

>> THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE PROBLEM HERE.

WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THEIR TIME, PROBLEM HERE.

WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THEIR TIME, IS IT -- WHERE IS THAT COMING WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THEIR TIME, IS IT -- WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM WHEN THEY GIVE THEM PAID IS IT -- WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM WHEN THEY GIVE THEM PAID LEAVE.

FROM WHEN THEY GIVE THEM PAID LEAVE.

THAT'S COMING FROM THEIR LEAVE.

THAT'S COMING FROM THEIR CORPORATION IS NOT A FREE THAT'S COMING FROM THEIR CORPORATION IS NOT A FREE PROGRAM.

CORPORATION IS NOT A FREE PROGRAM.

YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THAT PROGRAM.

YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THAT EMPLOYEE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

YOU HAVE TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY EMPLOYEE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

YOU HAVE TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WILL GET THEIR JOB BACK YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WILL GET THEIR JOB BACK YOU HAVE TO GUARANTEE THEIR HEALTH CARE WILL GET THEIR JOB BACK YOU HAVE TO GUARANTEE THEIR HEALTH CARE UNDER PROVISIONS OF THE FMLA TO GUARANTEE THEIR HEALTH CARE UNDER PROVISIONS OF THE FMLA THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE IT TAX ON UNDER PROVISIONS OF THE FMLA THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE IT TAX ON TO THE COSTS OF HIRING EACH THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE IT TAX ON TO THE COSTS OF HIRING EACH EMPLOYEE.

TO THE COSTS OF HIRING EACH EMPLOYEE.

EVEN SOMEONE MAKING 8.25 AN EMPLOYEE.

EVEN SOMEONE MAKING 8.25 AN HOUR.

SO YOU ARE CREATENESS HOUR.

SO YOU ARE CREATENESS DISINTENSIVE TO HIRE THESE SO YOU ARE CREATENESS DISINTENSIVE TO HIRE THESE PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE, I THINK DISINTENSIVE TO HIRE THESE PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE, I THINK WITH UNEMPLOYMENT AS HIGH AS IT PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE, I THINK WITH UNEMPLOYMENT AS HIGH AS IT IS IN THE LOWER INCOME LEVELS, WITH UNEMPLOYMENT AS HIGH AS IT IS IN THE LOWER INCOME LEVELS, YOU'RE REALLY HURTING, DISSENT IS IN THE LOWER INCOME LEVELS, YOU'RE REALLY HURTING, DISSENT SENT ADVISING.

YOU'RE REALLY HURTING, DISSENT SENT ADVISING.

>> GREAT RESEARCH IN THE FAST SENT ADVISING.

>> GREAT RESEARCH IN THE FAST FOOD INDUSTRY ABUT THAT THAT >> GREAT RESEARCH IN THE FAST FOOD INDUSTRY ABUT THAT THAT SHOWS THAT ACTUALLY HIGHER WAGES FOOD INDUSTRY ABUT THAT THAT SHOWS THAT ACTUALLY HIGHER WAGES AT THE VERY ENTRY LEVEL CAUSE SHOWS THAT ACTUALLY HIGHER WAGES AT THE VERY ENTRY LEVEL CAUSE MUCH LOWER TURN OVER AND MUCH AT THE VERY ENTRY LEVEL CAUSE MUCH LOWER TURN OVER AND MUCH HIGHER DEMAND.

MUCH LOWER TURN OVER AND MUCH HIGHER DEMAND.

PEOPLE HAVE MONEY TO SPEND AND HIGHER DEMAND.

PEOPLE HAVE MONEY TO SPEND AND THAT THAT IS ECONOMIC STIMULUS PEOPLE HAVE MONEY TO SPEND AND THAT THAT IS ECONOMIC STIMULUS SO THAT THE -- THAT THAT IS ECONOMIC STIMULUS SO THAT THE -- >> LET'S GET BACK TO FAMILY AND SO THAT THE -- >> LET'S GET BACK TO FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE.

>> LET'S GET BACK TO FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE.

>> THE ECONOMIC AFFECT OF NOT MEDICAL LEAVE.

>> THE ECONOMIC AFFECT OF NOT HAVING A HIGH TURNOVER SUPER >> THE ECONOMIC AFFECT OF NOT HAVING A HIGH TURNOVER SUPER STRESSED OUT ON THE EDGE HAVING A HIGH TURNOVER SUPER STRESSED OUT ON THE EDGE WORKFORCE ARE ACTUALLY GOOD FOR STRESSED OUT ON THE EDGE WORKFORCE ARE ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY AS A WHOLE.

WORKFORCE ARE ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY AS A WHOLE.

>> BUT THE -- MY PREFERENCE FOR THE ECONOMY AS A WHOLE.

>> BUT THE -- MY PREFERENCE FOR CORPORATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, >> BUT THE -- MY PREFERENCE FOR CORPORATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, COMPANIES, EMPLOYERS, EMPLOYEES CORPORATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, COMPANIES, EMPLOYERS, EMPLOYEES TO WORK THIS OUT.

COMPANIES, EMPLOYERS, EMPLOYEES TO WORK THIS OUT.

I'M ABOUT TO GO ON MATERNITY TO WORK THIS OUT.

I'M ABOUT TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE.

I AM COVERED BY A PRIVATE LEAVE.

I AM COVERED BY A PRIVATE SHORT-TERM DISABILITY POLICY.

THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE A SINGLE SHORT-TERM DISABILITY POLICY.

THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE A SINGLE PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO BEAR THE THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE A SINGLE PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO BEAR THE COST OF ME TAKING THIS LEAVE.

PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO BEAR THE COST OF ME TAKING THIS LEAVE.

UNMARRIED PERSON, SO THIS IS THE COST OF ME TAKING THIS LEAVE.

UNMARRIED PERSON, SO THIS IS THE KIND OF THICK WHERE I'M UNMARRIED PERSON, SO THIS IS THE KIND OF THICK WHERE I'M INTERNALIZING IT, I'VE BEEN KIND OF THICK WHERE I'M INTERNALIZING IT, I'VE BEEN PAYING IN TO I WOULD RATHER HAVE INTERNALIZING IT, I'VE BEEN PAYING IN TO I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT THAN SOMETHING -- PAYING IN TO I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT THAN SOMETHING -- >> THE PROBLEM WITH VOL UNER THAT THAN SOMETHING -- >> THE PROBLEM WITH VOL UNER THAT SOLUTION I'M GLAD IT'S >> THE PROBLEM WITH VOL UNER THAT SOLUTION I'M GLAD IT'S WORKING FOR YOU IS THAT THE THAT SOLUTION I'M GLAD IT'S WORKING FOR YOU IS THAT THE CORPORATION WANT TO HAVE LOWER WORKING FOR YOU IS THAT THE CORPORATION WANT TO HAVE LOWER TAX BASE THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO CORPORATION WANT TO HAVE LOWER TAX BASE THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS ISSUE.

TAX BASE THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS ISSUE.

THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY, BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS ISSUE.

THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY, THEY'RE THE ONES HIRING PEOPLE.

WE CANNOT -- THE NUMBERS SHOW THEY'RE THE ONES HIRING PEOPLE.

WE CANNOT -- THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT VOLUNTARY OPTIONS ARE NOT WE CANNOT -- THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT VOLUNTARY OPTIONS ARE NOT WORKING BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LARGE THAT VOLUNTARY OPTIONS ARE NOT WORKING BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WITHOUT WORKING BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WITHOUT COVERAGE.

PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WITHOUT COVERAGE.

>> YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, COVERAGE.

>> YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, STATE-FUNDED PROGRAMS AREN'T >> YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, STATE-FUNDED PROGRAMS AREN'T WORKING EITHER IN CALIFORNIA STATE-FUNDED PROGRAMS AREN'T WORKING EITHER IN CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY PAID 55% OF A WORKING EITHER IN CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY PAID 55% OF A PERSON'S WAGE PAID LEAVE FOR A WHERE THEY PAID 55% OF A PERSON'S WAGE PAID LEAVE FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS.

PERSON'S WAGE PAID LEAVE FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS.

WOMEN WEREN'T TAKING IT BECAUSE NUMBER OF WEEKS.

WOMEN WEREN'T TAKING IT BECAUSE 55% OF THEIR WAGES WASN'T ENOUGH WOMEN WEREN'T TAKING IT BECAUSE 55% OF THEIR WAGES WASN'T ENOUGH TO LIVE ON.

55% OF THEIR WAGES WASN'T ENOUGH TO LIVE ON.

>> TO SAY IT'S NOT WORKING WHEN TO LIVE ON.

>> TO SAY IT'S NOT WORKING WHEN YOU ARE TELLING MINIMUM WAGE -- >> TO SAY IT'S NOT WORKING WHEN YOU ARE TELLING MINIMUM WAGE -- TELL THEM THEY NEED TO LIVE ON YOU ARE TELLING MINIMUM WAGE -- TELL THEM THEY NEED TO LIVE ON 7,000 WITH A CHILD IN ORDER TO TELL THEM THEY NEED TO LIVE ON 7,000 WITH A CHILD IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM IS 7,000 WITH A CHILD IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM IS KIND OF LIKE THE HEALTH CARE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM IS KIND OF LIKE THE HEALTH CARE OPTION WHERE YOU MAKE 15,000 YOU KIND OF LIKE THE HEALTH CARE OPTION WHERE YOU MAKE 15,000 YOU CAN PAY 10,000 FOR HEALTH OPTION WHERE YOU MAKE 15,000 YOU CAN PAY 10,000 FOR HEALTH INSURANCE BUT NOBODY TAKES IT WE CAN PAY 10,000 FOR HEALTH INSURANCE BUT NOBODY TAKES IT WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT PROVIDE IT.

INSURANCE BUT NOBODY TAKES IT WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT PROVIDE IT.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

MIGHT AS WELL NOT PROVIDE IT.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

>> WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

>> WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

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