STREETS IN EGYPT.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TAKES A NEW APPROACH TO DRUG CRIMES.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TAKES A NEW APPROACH TO DRUG CRIMES.
AND READING THE TEA LEAVES FOR NEW APPROACH TO DRUG CRIMES.
AND READING THE TEA LEAVES FOR 2016.
AND READING THE TEA LEAVES FOR 2016.
I'M AMY WOLTER IN FOR GWEN 2016.
I'M AMY WOLTER IN FOR GWEN IFILL.
I'M AMY WOLTER IN FOR GWEN IFILL.
TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
IFILL.
TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
>> THE UNITED STATES STRONGLY TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
>> THE UNITED STATES STRONGLY CONDEMNS THE STEPS THAT HAVE >> THE UNITED STATES STRONGLY CONDEMNS THE STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY EGYPT'S INTERIM CONDEMNS THE STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY EGYPT'S INTERIM GOVERNMENT.
BEEN TAKEN BY EGYPT'S INTERIM GOVERNMENT.
AMY: THE PRESIDENT RESPONDS TO GOVERNMENT.
AMY: THE PRESIDENT RESPONDS TO THE INCREASING VIOLENCE IN AMY: THE PRESIDENT RESPONDS TO THE INCREASING VIOLENCE IN EGYPT.
THE INCREASING VIOLENCE IN EGYPT.
BUT HOW MUCH INFLUENCE ES TDOHE EGYPT.
BUT HOW MUCH INFLUENCE ES TDOHE U.S. HAVE IN THE REGION?
BUT HOW MUCH INFLUENCE ES TDOHE U.S. HAVE IN THE REGION?
>> WE VIOLATED OUR OWN RULE OF U.S. HAVE IN THE REGION?
>> WE VIOLATED OUR OWN RULE OF LAW BY NOT CALLING IT FOR WHAT >> WE VIOLATED OUR OWN RULE OF LAW BY NOT CALLING IT FOR WHAT IT IS BECAUSE OUR LAW CLEARLY LAW BY NOT CALLING IT FOR WHAT IT IS BECAUSE OUR LAW CLEARLY STATES THAT IF IT'S A MILITARY IT IS BECAUSE OUR LAW CLEARLY STATES THAT IF IT'S A MILITARY COUP THEN AID IS CUT OFF.
STATES THAT IF IT'S A MILITARY COUP THEN AID IS CUT OFF.
THEY HAD THE COUP AND WE DIDN'T COUP THEN AID IS CUT OFF.
THEY HAD THE COUP AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT.
THEY HAD THE COUP AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT.
THAT'S A BLOW TO CREDIBILITY.
DO THAT.
THAT'S A BLOW TO CREDIBILITY.
MY: THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TAKES THAT'S A BLOW TO CREDIBILITY.
MY: THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TAKES AIM AT THOSE CON VICTED OF MY: THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TAKES AIM AT THOSE CON VICTED OF MINOR DRUG OFFENSES.
AIM AT THOSE CON VICTED OF MINOR DRUG OFFENSES.
>> CERTAIN LOW LEVEL NONVIOLENT MINOR DRUG OFFENSES.
>> CERTAIN LOW LEVEL NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS WHO HAVE NO TIES >> CERTAIN LOW LEVEL NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS WHO HAVE NO TIES TO LARGE SCALE ORGANIZATIONS, DRUG OFFENDERS WHO HAVE NO TIES TO LARGE SCALE ORGANIZATIONS, GANGS OR CARTELS, WILL NO TO LARGE SCALE ORGANIZATIONS, GANGS OR CARTELS, WILL NO LONGER BE CHARGED WITH OFFENSES GANGS OR CARTELS, WILL NO LONGER BE CHARGED WITH OFFENSES THAT IMPOSE DRACONIAN MANDATORY LONGER BE CHARGED WITH OFFENSES THAT IMPOSE DRACONIAN MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES.
THAT IMPOSE DRACONIAN MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES.
AMY: AND HILLARYLINT CON LAYING MINIMUM SENTENCES.
AMY: AND HILLARYLINT CON LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR 2016.
AMY: AND HILLARYLINT CON LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR 2016.
>> MANY AMERICANS ARE ASKING THE GROUNDWORK FOR 2016.
>> MANY AMERICANS ARE ASKING HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THE LAW >> MANY AMERICANS ARE ASKING HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THE LAW CONTINUES TO SERVE AND BELONG HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THE LAW CONTINUES TO SERVE AND BELONG TO THE PEOPLE IN A TIME WHEN CONTINUES TO SERVE AND BELONG TO THE PEOPLE IN A TIME WHEN IDEOLOGY AND GRIDLOCK HAVE TO THE PEOPLE IN A TIME WHEN IDEOLOGY AND GRIDLOCK HAVE PALYZERAD OUR POLITICS?
IDEOLOGY AND GRIDLOCK HAVE PALYZERAD OUR POLITICS?
AMY: BUT IS THIS MAN CONCEDING PALYZERAD OUR POLITICS?
AMY: BUT IS THIS MAN CONCEDING ANYTHING?
AMY: BUT IS THIS MAN CONCEDING ANYTHING?
COVERING THE WEEK, IIRA ND ANYTHING?
COVERING THE WEEK, IIRA ND LAKSHMANAN ON BLOOMBERG NEWS.
COVERING THE WEEK, IIRA ND LAKSHMANAN ON BLOOMBERG NEWS.
PETE WILLIAMS OF NBC NEWS.
LAKSHMANAN ON BLOOMBERG NEWS.
PETE WILLIAMS OF NBC NEWS.
AND JEFF ZELENY OF ABC NEWS.
PETE WILLIAMS OF NBC NEWS.
AND JEFF ZELENY OF ABC NEWS.
>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND AND JEFF ZELENY OF ABC NEWS.
>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS AND COVERING HEFT AS >> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS AND COVERING HEFT AS IT HAPPENS LIVE FROM OUR ANALYSIS AND COVERING HEFT AS IT HAPPENS LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL THIS IS IT HAPPENS LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK."
WASHINGTON, SITTING IN FOR GWEN IFILL THISEEK W AMY WOLTER OF THE COOK POLITICAL REPORT.
IFILL THISEEK W AMY WOLTER OF THE COOK POLITICAL REPORT.
AMY: GOOD EVENING.
THE COOK POLITICAL REPORT.
AMY: GOOD EVENING.
CLASHES CONTINUED TODAY ON THE AMY: GOOD EVENING.
CLASHES CONTINUED TODAY ON THE STREETS OF CAIRO AND OTHER CLASHES CONTINUED TODAY ON THE STREETS OF CAIRO AND OTHER EGYPTIAN CITIES.
STREETS OF CAIRO AND OTHER EGYPTIAN CITIES.
BETWEEN THE MILITARY AND EGYPTIAN CITIES.
BETWEEN THE MILITARY AND SUPPORTERS OF OUSTED PRESIDENT BETWEEN THE MILITARY AND SUPPORTERS OF OUSTED PRESIDENT MOHAMED MORSI.
SUPPORTERS OF OUSTED PRESIDENT MOHAMED MORSI.
MANY OF WHOM HAVE BEEN CAMPED MOHAMED MORSI.
MANY OF WHOM HAVE BEEN CAMPED OUT FOR WEEKS AND PARKS AND MANY OF WHOM HAVE BEEN CAMPED OUT FOR WEEKS AND PARKS AND SQUARES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
OUT FOR WEEKS AND PARKS AND SQUARES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
HUNDREDS DIED IN THE FIGHTING SQUARES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
HUNDREDS DIED IN THE FIGHTING THIS MAST WEEK.
HUNDREDS DIED IN THE FIGHTING THIS MAST WEEK.
THE INTERIM GOVERNMENT HAS THIS MAST WEEK.
THE INTERIM GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
THE INTERIM GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
THURSDAY PRESIDENT OBAMA DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
THURSDAY PRESIDENT OBAMA CONDEMNED THE CRACKDOWN BY THE THURSDAY PRESIDENT OBAMA CONDEMNED THE CRACKDOWN BY THE GOVERNMENT.
CONDEMNED THE CRACKDOWN BY THE GOVERNMENT.
>> LET ME SAY THE CYCLE OF GOVERNMENT.
>> LET ME SAY THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE AND ESCALATION NEEDS >> LET ME SAY THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE AND ESCALATION NEEDS TO STOP.
VIOLENCE AND ESCALATION NEEDS TO STOP.
WE CALL ON THE EGYPTIAN TO STOP.
WE CALL ON THE EGYPTIAN AUTHORITIES TO RESPECT THE WE CALL ON THE EGYPTIAN AUTHORITIES TO RESPECT THE UNIVERSAL RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE.
AUTHORITIES TO RESPECT THE UNIVERSAL RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE.
WE CALL ON THOSE WHO ARE UNIVERSAL RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE.
WE CALL ON THOSE WHO ARE PROTESTING TO DO SO PEACEFULLY.
WE CALL ON THOSE WHO ARE PROTESTING TO DO SO PEACEFULLY.
AND CONDEMN THE ATTACKS THAT PROTESTING TO DO SO PEACEFULLY.
AND CONDEMN THE ATTACKS THAT WE'VE SEEN BY PROTESTERS.
AND CONDEMN THE ATTACKS THAT WE'VE SEEN BY PROTESTERS.
INCLUDING ON CHURCHES.
WE'VE SEEN BY PROTESTERS.
INCLUDING ON CHURCHES.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE STATE OF INCLUDING ON CHURCHES.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE STATE OF EMERGENCY SHOULD BE LIFTED, WE BELIEVE THAT THE STATE OF EMERGENCY SHOULD BE LIFTED, THAT A PROCESS OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY SHOULD BE LIFTED, THAT A PROCESS OF NATIONAL RECONCILIATION SHOULD BEGIN, THAT A PROCESS OF NATIONAL RECONCILIATION SHOULD BEGIN, THAT ALL PARTIES NEED TO HAVE A RECONCILIATION SHOULD BEGIN, THAT ALL PARTIES NEED TO HAVE A VOICE IN EGYPT'S FUTURE.
THAT ALL PARTIES NEED TO HAVE A VOICE IN EGYPT'S FUTURE.
AMY: THE U.S. HAS BEEN WALKING VOICE IN EGYPT'S FUTURE.
AMY: THE U.S. HAS BEEN WALKING A TIGHTROPE EVER SINCE MORSI AMY: THE U.S. HAS BEEN WALKING A TIGHTROPE EVER SINCE MORSI WAS REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
A TIGHTROPE EVER SINCE MORSI WAS REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
AND JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, WAS REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
AND JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY AND JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY WAS HOPEFUL THAT WHAT HAPPENED SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY WAS HOPEFUL THAT WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK WOULD NOT COME TO WAS HOPEFUL THAT WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK WOULD NOT COME TO PASS.
THIS WEEK WOULD NOT COME TO PASS.
>> THE MILITARY WAS ASKED TO PASS.
>> THE MILITARY WAS ASKED TO INTERVENE BY MILLIONS AND >> THE MILITARY WAS ASKED TO INTERVENE BY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
INTERVENE BY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
AFRAID OF A RE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
AFRAID OF A RE DESCENDENS INTO CHAOS AND AFRAID OF A RE DESCENDENS INTO CHAOS AND VIOLENCE.
DESCENDENS INTO CHAOS AND VIOLENCE.
THE MILITARY DID NOT TAKE OVER VIOLENCE.
THE MILITARY DID NOT TAKE OVER TO THE BEST OF OUR JUDGMENT SO THE MILITARY DID NOT TAKE OVER TO THE BEST OF OUR JUDGMENT SO FAR.
TO THE BEST OF OUR JUDGMENT SO FAR.
SO FAR.
FAR.
SO FAR.
TO RUN THE COUNTRY.
SO FAR.
TO RUN THE COUNTRY.
THERE WAS A CIVILIAN TO RUN THE COUNTRY.
THERE WAS A CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT.
THERE WAS A CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT.
IN EFFECT THEY WERE RESTORING GOVERNMENT.
IN EFFECT THEY WERE RESTORING DEMOCRACY.
IN EFFECT THEY WERE RESTORING DEMOCRACY.
AMY: SO INDIRA, WHERE ARE WE DEMOCRACY.
AMY: SO INDIRA, WHERE ARE WE ?
W IN EGYPT AMY: SO INDIRA, WHERE ARE WE ?
W IN EGYPT >> WELL, SADLY, SECRETARY ?
W IN EGYPT >> WELL, SADLY, SECRETARY KERRY'S HOPEFUL WORDS THAT WE >> WELL, SADLY, SECRETARY KERRY'S HOPEFUL WORDS THAT WE WOULD BE ON A PATH TOWARD KERRY'S HOPEFUL WORDS THAT WE WOULD BE ON A PATH TOWARD DEMOCRACY HAVE NOT COME TO WOULD BE ON A PATH TOWARD DEMOCRACY HAVE NOT COME TO PASS.
DEMOCRACY HAVE NOT COME TO PASS.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MORE THAN 600 PASS.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MORE THAN 600 PEOPLE MASSACRED THIS WEEK, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MORE THAN 600 PEOPLE MASSACRED THIS WEEK, PROTESTERS WHO WERE SUPPORTING PEOPLE MASSACRED THIS WEEK, PROTESTERS WHO WERE SUPPORTING MOHAMED MORSI.
PROTESTERS WHO WERE SUPPORTING MOHAMED MORSI.
WE HAVE 19 GENERALS WHO WERE MOHAMED MORSI.
WE HAVE 19 GENERALS WHO WERE APPOINTED AS PROVINCIAL WE HAVE 19 GENERALS WHO WERE APPOINTED AS PROVINCIAL GOVERNORS.
APPOINTED AS PROVINCIAL GOVERNORS.
WE HAVE WHAT'S LOOKING MORE AND GOVERNORS.
WE HAVE WHAT'S LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE A COUP IF WE WEREN'T WE HAVE WHAT'S LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE A COUP IF WE WEREN'T ALREADY WILLING TO USE THAT MORE LIKE A COUP IF WE WEREN'T ALREADY WILLING TO USE THAT WORD.
ALREADY WILLING TO USE THAT WORD.
AND SO FAR WE HAVEN'T BEEN WORD.
AND SO FAR WE HAVEN'T BEEN WILLING TO.
AND SO FAR WE HAVEN'T BEEN WILLING TO.
AND IT'S INTERESTING THE U.N.
WILLING TO.
AND IT'S INTERESTING THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL MET LAST AND IT'S INTERESTING THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL MET LAST NIGHT.
SECURITY COUNCIL MET LAST NIGHT.
WE HAVE MANY OF THE MEMBERS NIGHT.
WE HAVE MANY OF THE MEMBERS CALLING IT A MASSACRE.
WE HAVE MANY OF THE MEMBERS CALLING IT A MASSACRE.
THE E.U.
THREATENING TO CUT US CALLING IT A MASSACRE.
THE E.U.
THREATENING TO CUT US AID AND YET WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE E.U.
THREATENING TO CUT US AID AND YET WHAT WE HAVE WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA SO FAR IS AID AND YET WHAT WE HAVE WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA SO FAR IS DEPLORING IT, CONDEMNING IT AND PRESIDENT OBAMA SO FAR IS DEPLORING IT, CONDEMNING IT AND CANCELING SOME JOINT MILITARY DEPLORING IT, CONDEMNING IT AND CANCELING SOME JOINT MILITARY EXERCISES.
CANCELING SOME JOINT MILITARY EXERCISES.
BUT STOPPING SHORT OF CALLING EXERCISES.
BUT STOPPING SHORT OF CALLING IT A COUP THAT WOULD CUT OFF BUT STOPPING SHORT OF CALLING IT A COUP THAT WOULD CUT OFF THE $1.3 BILLION IN ANNUAL IT A COUP THAT WOULD CUT OFF THE $1.3 BILLION IN ANNUAL MILITARY AID.
THE $1.3 BILLION IN ANNUAL MILITARY AID.
AMY: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
MILITARY AID.
AMY: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
WHY DOESN'T THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AMY: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
WHY DOESN'T THE U.S. GOVERNMENT PUT THAT ON THE TABLE?
WHY DOESN'T THE U.S. GOVERNMENT PUT THAT ON THE TABLE?
AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE PUT THAT ON THE TABLE?
AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE PRESIDENT AND THE AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE COME UP PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE COME UP WITH A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS.
ADMINISTRATION HAVE COME UP WITH A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS.
BUT WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING WITH A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS.
BUT WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT JUST SIMPLY CUTTING OFF BUT WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT JUST SIMPLY CUTTING OFF THE AID.
ABOUT JUST SIMPLY CUTTING OFF THE AID.
>> RIGHT.
THE AID.
>> RIGHT.
WELL, AT THIS POINT, THE >> RIGHT.
WELL, AT THIS POINT, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DETERMINED WELL, AT THIS POINT, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS STILL IN THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION HAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS STILL IN THE U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST TO THAT IT IS STILL IN THE U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST TO KEEP THAT AID GOING.
NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST TO KEEP THAT AID GOING.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL REAL KEEP THAT AID GOING.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL REAL POLITICK REASONS FOR THAT.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL REAL POLITICK REASONS FOR THAT.
ON THE ONE HAND THEY FEEL THEY POLITICK REASONS FOR THAT.
ON THE ONE HAND THEY FEEL THEY HAVE SOME LEVERAGE OVER THE ON THE ONE HAND THEY FEEL THEY HAVE SOME LEVERAGE OVER THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY.
HAVE SOME LEVERAGE OVER THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY.
THAT THEY THINK THEY WOULD LOSE EGYPTIAN MILITARY.
THAT THEY THINK THEY WOULD LOSE IF THEY CUT OFF THAT AID.
THAT THEY THINK THEY WOULD LOSE IF THEY CUT OFF THAT AID.
THERE'S ALSO THE FEELING THAT IF THEY CUT OFF THAT AID.
THERE'S ALSO THE FEELING THAT THIS -- THAT THIS AID THAT WE THERE'S ALSO THE FEELING THAT THIS -- THAT THIS AID THAT WE GIVE THEM UNDERPINS THE CAMP THIS -- THAT THIS AID THAT WE GIVE THEM UNDERPINS THE CAMP DAVID ACCORDS AND EGYPT'S GIVE THEM UNDERPINS THE CAMP DAVID ACCORDS AND EGYPT'S WILLINGNESS TO STAY WITH THAT DAVID ACCORDS AND EGYPT'S WILLINGNESS TO STAY WITH THAT PEACE IN ISRAEL.
WILLINGNESS TO STAY WITH THAT PEACE IN ISRAEL.
AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THERE PEACE IN ISRAEL.
AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF VESTED AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF VESTED INTERESTS AS PETE KNOWS WELL, ARE ALSO A LOT OF VESTED INTERESTS AS PETE KNOWS WELL, THERE ARE MILITARY CONTRACTORS INTERESTS AS PETE KNOWS WELL, THERE ARE MILITARY CONTRACTORS ALL OVER WASHINGTON WHO ARE THERE ARE MILITARY CONTRACTORS ALL OVER WASHINGTON WHO ARE GAINING FROM THIS $1.3 BILLION ALL OVER WASHINGTON WHO ARE GAINING FROM THIS $1.3 BILLION IN AID WHICH REALLY GOES INTO GAINING FROM THIS $1.3 BILLION IN AID WHICH REALLY GOES INTO THE POCKETS OF AMERICAN IN AID WHICH REALLY GOES INTO THE POCKETS OF AMERICAN MILITARY CONTRACTORS.
THE POCKETS OF AMERICAN MILITARY CONTRACTORS.
IT'S JUST THAT THE WEAPONS THAT MILITARY CONTRACTORS.
IT'S JUST THAT THE WEAPONS THAT ARE PAID FOR END UP IN THE IT'S JUST THAT THE WEAPONS THAT ARE PAID FOR END UP IN THE HANDS OF THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY.
ARE PAID FOR END UP IN THE HANDS OF THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY.
>> SO THIS MONEY GCHES US HANDS OF THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY.
>> SO THIS MONEY GCHES US LEVERAGE OVER THE MILITARY TO >> SO THIS MONEY GCHES US LEVERAGE OVER THE MILITARY TO DO WHAT?
LEVERAGE OVER THE MILITARY TO DO WHAT?
>> WELL, THAT'S -- THAT'S THE DO WHAT?
>> WELL, THAT'S -- THAT'S THE $1.3 BILLION QUESTION.
>> WELL, THAT'S -- THAT'S THE $1.3 BILLION QUESTION.
THE IDEA HAS BEEN THAT THE $1.3 BILLION QUESTION.
THE IDEA HAS BEEN THAT THE LEVERAGE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING THE IDEA HAS BEEN THAT THE LEVERAGE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE SAY.
LEVERAGE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE SAY.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS SIX TO DO WHAT WE SAY.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS SIX WEEKS AGO, WE WERE PRESSURING BUT WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS SIX WEEKS AGO, WE WERE PRESSURING THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY NOT TO WEEKS AGO, WE WERE PRESSURING THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY NOT TO OUST MORSI EVEN THOUGH HE WAS THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY NOT TO OUST MORSI EVEN THOUGH HE WAS UNPOPULAR AND THE U.S. WASN'T A OUST MORSI EVEN THOUGH HE WAS UNPOPULAR AND THE U.S. WASN'T A BIG FAN.
UNPOPULAR AND THE U.S. WASN'T A BIG FAN.
THEY DENT LISTEN.
BIG FAN.
THEY DENT LISTEN.
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY DENT LISTEN.
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THE U.S. HAS BEEN PRESSURING IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THE U.S. HAS BEEN PRESSURING THE MILITARY TO NOT CRACK DOWN THE U.S. HAS BEEN PRESSURING THE MILITARY TO NOT CRACK DOWN ON THE PROTESTERS.
THE MILITARY TO NOT CRACK DOWN ON THE PROTESTERS.
AND THEY OBVIOUSLY IGNORED US.
ON THE PROTESTERS.
AND THEY OBVIOUSLY IGNORED US.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THROWING AND THEY OBVIOUSLY IGNORED US.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THROWING UP THEIR HANDS, LONG-TIME SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THROWING UP THEIR HANDS, LONG-TIME ANALYSTS AND SAYING WHAT -- UP THEIR HANDS, LONG-TIME ANALYSTS AND SAYING WHAT -- WHAT LEVERAGE DO WE HAVE?
ANALYSTS AND SAYING WHAT -- WHAT LEVERAGE DO WE HAVE?
WHAT INFLUENCE DO WE STILL HAVE WHAT LEVERAGE DO WE HAVE?
WHAT INFLUENCE DO WE STILL HAVE IN THE REGION?
WHAT INFLUENCE DO WE STILL HAVE IN THE REGION?
AND THAT'S BECOME PROBLEMATIC IN THE REGION?
AND THAT'S BECOME PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT'S MAKING OBAMA IN A AND THAT'S BECOME PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT'S MAKING OBAMA IN A WAY, THE WORST OF ALL POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S MAKING OBAMA IN A WAY, THE WORST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS.
WAY, THE WORST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS.
HE DOESN'T COME RIGHT OUT AND WORLDS.
HE DOESN'T COME RIGHT OUT AND CALL IT A COUP.
HE DOESN'T COME RIGHT OUT AND CALL IT A COUP.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT CALL IT A COUP.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT STANDING UP TO AMERICAN IDEALS.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT STANDING UP TO AMERICAN IDEALS.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT LOOKS STANDING UP TO AMERICAN IDEALS.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE IMPOTENT IN THE FACE AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE IMPOTENT IN THE FACE OF WHAT'S HAPPPPPPG, ALL THE LIKE WE'RE IMPOTENT IN THE FACE OF WHAT'S HAPPPPPPG, ALL THE VIOLENCE IN THE REGION.
OF WHAT'S HAPPPPPPG, ALL THE VIOLENCE IN THE REGION.
AND IT MAKES US IN A WAY LOOK VIOLENCE IN THE REGION.
AND IT MAKES US IN A WAY LOOK F HE CANLESS AND IT'S DITCH.
AND IT MAKES US IN A WAY LOOK F HE CANLESS AND IT'S DITCH.
-- AND IS -- AND IT'S F HE CANLESS AND IT'S DITCH.
-- AND IS -- AND IT'S DIFFICULT.
-- AND IS -- AND IT'S DIFFICULT.
IT IS A DIFFICULT TIGHTROPE DIFFICULT.
IT IS A DIFFICULT TIGHTROPE THEY'RE WALKING.
IT IS A DIFFICULT TIGHTROPE THEY'RE WALKING.
AND BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT I'M THEY'RE WALKING.
AND BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY SOURCES IS THAT AND BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY SOURCES IS THAT IT'S NOT THAT U.S. LAWYERS ARE HEARING FROM MY SOURCES IS THAT IT'S NOT THAT U.S. LAWYERS ARE STUPID.
IT'S NOT THAT U.S. LAWYERS ARE STUPID.
NOT THAT THEY DON'T REALIZE STUPID.
NOT THAT THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT THIS IS A COUP.
NOT THAT THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT THIS IS A COUP.
OF COURSE AMERICAN LAWYERS THAT THIS IS A COUP.
OF COURSE AMERICAN LAWYERS LOOKED AT THIS AFTERWARDS AND OF COURSE AMERICAN LAWYERS LOOKED AT THIS AFTERWARDS AND SAID OOPS, THIS IS A COUP.
LOOKED AT THIS AFTERWARDS AND SAID OOPS, THIS IS A COUP.
BUT THEY MADE THE DECISION THAT SAID OOPS, THIS IS A COUP.
BUT THEY MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO PUBLICLY BUT THEY MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO PUBLICLY MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T NEED TO PUBLICLY MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BECAUSE THAT WOULD FORCE THEIR HAND IN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BECAUSE THAT WOULD FORCE THEIR HAND IN OTHER WAYS.
THAT WOULD FORCE THEIR HAND IN OTHER WAYS.
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING -- OTHER WAYS.
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING -- >> IN WHAT OTHER WAYS?
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING -- >> IN WHAT OTHER WAYS?
>> FORCING THEM TO CUT OFF THE >> IN WHAT OTHER WAYS?
>> FORCING THEM TO CUT OFF THE AID WHICH THEY DIDN'T WANT TO >> FORCING THEM TO CUT OFF THE AID WHICH THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO.
AID WHICH THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO.
THE AID HELPS US IN SEVERAL DO.
THE AID HELPS US IN SEVERAL WAYS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THE AID HELPS US IN SEVERAL WAYS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES SECURITY FOR THE SUEZ CANAL WAYS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES SECURITY FOR THE SUEZ CANAL THROUGH WHICH $4.5 MILLION SECURITY FOR THE SUEZ CANAL THROUGH WHICH $4.5 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL ARE GOING EVERY THROUGH WHICH $4.5 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL ARE GOING EVERY WAY.
BARRELS OF OIL ARE GOING EVERY WAY.
IT PROVIDES SECURITY FOR THE WAY.
IT PROVIDES SECURITY FOR THE U.S. EMBASSY AND CONSULATES.
IT PROVIDES SECURITY FOR THE U.S. EMBASSY AND CONSULATES.
AND IT PROVIDES A LOT OF U.S. EMBASSY AND CONSULATES.
AND IT PROVIDES A LOT OF COUNTERTERRORISM SECURITY.
AND IT PROVIDES A LOT OF COUNTERTERRORISM SECURITY.
NOT TO MENTION STOPPING WEAPONS COUNTERTERRORISM SECURITY.
NOT TO MENTION STOPPING WEAPONS FROM GOING INTO THE TUNNELS NOT TO MENTION STOPPING WEAPONS FROM GOING INTO THE TUNNELS THROUGH RAFA INTO GAZA.
FROM GOING INTO THE TUNNELS THROUGH RAFA INTO GAZA.
SO THERE ARE BENEFITS THAT THE THROUGH RAFA INTO GAZA.
SO THERE ARE BENEFITS THAT THE U.S. FETES FROM THAT AS WELL.
SO THERE ARE BENEFITS THAT THE U.S. FETES FROM THAT AS WELL.
BUT THE HYPOCRITICAL, I GRANT U.S. FETES FROM THAT AS WELL.
BUT THE HYPOCRITICAL, I GRANT YOU, IT DOES PUT US IN A BAD BUT THE HYPOCRITICAL, I GRANT YOU, IT DOES PUT US IN A BAD LIGHT.
YOU, IT DOES PUT US IN A BAD LIGHT.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT STANDING UP LIGHT.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT STANDING UP FOR THE IDEALS AND AT THE SAME BECAUSE WE'RE NOT STANDING UP FOR THE IDEALS AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE NOT GETTING THE FOR THE IDEALS AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE NOT GETTING THE LEVERAGE THEY WANT OVER OUR TIME WE'RE NOT GETTING THE LEVERAGE THEY WANT OVER OUR POLICY.
LEVERAGE THEY WANT OVER OUR POLICY.
AMY: IS THE ARAB SPRING THE POLICY.
AMY: IS THE ARAB SPRING THE ARAB WINTER?
AMY: IS THE ARAB SPRING THE ARAB WINTER?
FROM SYRIA, TUNISIA, EGYPT, ALL ARAB WINTER?
FROM SYRIA, TUNISIA, EGYPT, ALL THE PROMISES OF THE UPRISINGS FROM SYRIA, TUNISIA, EGYPT, ALL THE PROMISES OF THE UPRISINGS NOW SEEM TO BE COLLAPSING.
THE PROMISES OF THE UPRISINGS NOW SEEM TO BE COLLAPSING.
>> IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THE NOW SEEM TO BE COLLAPSING.
>> IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THE OPT MISTS HAD HOPED FOR 2 1/2 >> IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THE OPT MISTS HAD HOPED FOR 2 1/2 YEARS AGO.
OPT MISTS HAD HOPED FOR 2 1/2 YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK THE WORST CASE YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS PEOPLE THINKING, AND I THINK THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS PEOPLE THINKING, WOW, THE REVOLUTION THAT HIT SCENARIO IS PEOPLE THINKING, WOW, THE REVOLUTION THAT HIT TAHIRER SQUARE IN JANUARY OF WOW, THE REVOLUTION THAT HIT TAHIRER SQUARE IN JANUARY OF 11 WHEN PEOPLE HOPING THEY TAHIRER SQUARE IN JANUARY OF 11 WHEN PEOPLE HOPING THEY WERE PUSHING OUT MUBARAK MADE 11 WHEN PEOPLE HOPING THEY WERE PUSHING OUT MUBARAK MADE SOMETHING WORSE.
WERE PUSHING OUT MUBARAK MADE SOMETHING WORSE.
WHILE HIS REGIME -- THEY WERE SOMETHING WORSE.
WHILE HIS REGIME -- THEY WERE ALLOWED TO CONTEST ELECTIONS WHILE HIS REGIME -- THEY WERE ALLOWED TO CONTEST ELECTIONS AND THIS NEW MILITARY ALLOWED TO CONTEST ELECTIONS AND THIS NEW MILITARY LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE IT'S AND THIS NEW MILITARY LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE IT'S DETERMINED TO WIPE OUT THE LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE IT'S DETERMINED TO WIPE OUT THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ENTIRELY AND DETERMINED TO WIPE OUT THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ENTIRELY AND WE MAY WIND UP WITH SOMETHING MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ENTIRELY AND WE MAY WIND UP WITH SOMETHING MORE ENTRENCHED AND WORSE THAN WE MAY WIND UP WITH SOMETHING MORE ENTRENCHED AND WORSE THAN WE HAD 2 1/2 YEARS AGO WHEN MORE ENTRENCHED AND WORSE THAN WE HAD 2 1/2 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY ROSE UP IN TAHIR.
WE HAD 2 1/2 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY ROSE UP IN TAHIR.
>> ONE THING WE DID HEAR FROM THEY ROSE UP IN TAHIR.
>> ONE THING WE DID HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT THIS WEEK AND HE >> ONE THING WE DID HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT THIS WEEK AND HE WAS SPEAKING FROM MARTHA'S THE PRESIDENT THIS WEEK AND HE WAS SPEAKING FROM MARTHA'S VINEYARD HE DID NOT MENTION THE WAS SPEAKING FROM MARTHA'S VINEYARD HE DID NOT MENTION THE AID BUT DID SAY THE U.S. VINEYARD HE DID NOT MENTION THE AID BUT DID SAY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS CANCELING ITS AID BUT DID SAY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS CANCELING ITS MILITARY EXERCISES.
GOVERNMENT IS CANCELING ITS MILITARY EXERCISES.
IS THAT A BIG DEAL OR NOT?
MILITARY EXERCISES.
IS THAT A BIG DEAL OR NOT?
IT SEEMS LIKE THE MILITARY IS IS THAT A BIG DEAL OR NOT?
IT SEEMS LIKE THE MILITARY IS OCCUPIED AT THE MOMENT.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE MILITARY IS OCCUPIED AT THE MOMENT.
AND NOT EXACTLY -- OCCUPIED AT THE MOMENT.
AND NOT EXACTLY -- >> RIGHT.
AND NOT EXACTLY -- >> RIGHT.
>> WELL, THIS IS A BIENNIAL >> RIGHT.
>> WELL, THIS IS A BIENNIAL EXERCISE SO EVERY TWO YEARS.
>> WELL, THIS IS A BIENNIAL EXERCISE SO EVERY TWO YEARS.
THE LAST TIME IT WAS HELD EXERCISE SO EVERY TWO YEARS.
THE LAST TIME IT WAS HELD BRIGHT STAR WAS IN 2009 BECAUSE THE LAST TIME IT WAS HELD BRIGHT STAR WAS IN 2009 BECAUSE IN 2011, THEY ALSO HAD THEIR BRIGHT STAR WAS IN 2009 BECAUSE IN 2011, THEY ALSO HAD THEIR HANDS FULL WITH THE REVOLUTION IN 2011, THEY ALSO HAD THEIR HANDS FULL WITH THE REVOLUTION AND COULDN'T DO IT.
HANDS FULL WITH THE REVOLUTION AND COULDN'T DO IT.
IN SOME WAYS, YOU CAN SAY IT'S AND COULDN'T DO IT.
IN SOME WAYS, YOU CAN SAY IT'S SYMBOLIC AND OTHER WAYS IT IN SOME WAYS, YOU CAN SAY IT'S SYMBOLIC AND OTHER WAYS IT LOWSAL US TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYMBOLIC AND OTHER WAYS IT LOWSAL US TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE OTHER SIDE WORKS.
LOWSAL US TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE OTHER SIDE WORKS.
MANY COUNTRIES PARTICIPATE IN OTHER SIDE WORKS.
MANY COUNTRIES PARTICIPATE IN IT.
MANY COUNTRIES PARTICIPATE IN IT.
JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST.
IT.
JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST.
WHAT'S REAL IS IF THEY'RE JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST.
WHAT'S REAL IS IF THEY'RE CONSIDERING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT'S REAL IS IF THEY'RE CONSIDERING, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE STOPPED GIVING THE CONSIDERING, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE STOPPED GIVING THE F-16.
THEY'VE STOPPED GIVING THE F-16.
THEY PUT THAT ON HOLD.
F-16.
THEY PUT THAT ON HOLD.
IF THEY DECIDE TO STOP GIVING THEY PUT THAT ON HOLD.
IF THEY DECIDE TO STOP GIVING OTHER HARDWARE, IF THEY'RE NOT IF THEY DECIDE TO STOP GIVING OTHER HARDWARE, IF THEY'RE NOT REALLY LETTING AID FLOW SINCE OTHER HARDWARE, IF THEY'RE NOT REALLY LETTING AID FLOW SINCE JULY 3, SINCE THIS OUSTER, REALLY LETTING AID FLOW SINCE JULY 3, SINCE THIS OUSTER, THAT'S THE BIGGER QUESTION.
JULY 3, SINCE THIS OUSTER, THAT'S THE BIGGER QUESTION.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE IT THAT'S THE BIGGER QUESTION.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE IT GOES.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE IT GOES.
IF THINGS GET WORSE, THEY'RE GOES.
IF THINGS GET WORSE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO IF THINGS GET WORSE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE POLICY THEY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE POLICY THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
CONTINUE WITH THE POLICY THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S MY PREDICTION.
HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S MY PREDICTION.
AMY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT'S MY PREDICTION.
AMY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
AMY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
HERE AT HOME, A DECISION BY THAT.
HERE AT HOME, A DECISION BY ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER HERE AT HOME, A DECISION BY ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER THIS WEEK IS SURE TO STIR UP A ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER THIS WEEK IS SURE TO STIR UP A DEBATE ABOUT THE FAIRNESS IN THIS WEEK IS SURE TO STIR UP A DEBATE ABOUT THE FAIRNESS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
DEBATE ABOUT THE FAIRNESS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
AT ISSUE, MANDATORY MINIMUM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
AT ISSUE, MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES FOR WHAT MANY AT ISSUE, MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES FOR WHAT MANY ACKNOWLEDGE ARE MINOR DRUG SENTENCES FOR WHAT MANY ACKNOWLEDGE ARE MINOR DRUG INFRACTIONS.
ACKNOWLEDGE ARE MINOR DRUG INFRACTIONS.
>> ALTHOUGH INCARCERATION HAS A INFRACTIONS.
>> ALTHOUGH INCARCERATION HAS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO PLAY IN OUR >> ALTHOUGH INCARCERATION HAS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO PLAY IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, WIDESPREAD SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO PLAY IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, WIDESPREAD INCARCERATION AT THE FEDERAL, JUSTICE SYSTEM, WIDESPREAD INCARCERATION AT THE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL LEVELS IS BOTH INCARCERATION AT THE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL LEVELS IS BOTH INEFFECTIVE AND UNSUSTAINABLE.
STATE, AND LOCAL LEVELS IS BOTH INEFFECTIVE AND UNSUSTAINABLE.
WE ALSO MUST CONFRONT THE INEFFECTIVE AND UNSUSTAINABLE.
WE ALSO MUST CONFRONT THE REALITY THAT ONCE THEY'RE IN WE ALSO MUST CONFRONT THE REALITY THAT ONCE THEY'RE IN THAT SYSTEM, PEOPLE OF COLOR REALITY THAT ONCE THEY'RE IN THAT SYSTEM, PEOPLE OF COLOR OFTEN FACE HARSHER PUNISHMENTS THAT SYSTEM, PEOPLE OF COLOR OFTEN FACE HARSHER PUNISHMENTS THAN THEIR PEERS.
OFTEN FACE HARSHER PUNISHMENTS THAN THEIR PEERS.
20% MALE OFFENDERS HAV THAN THEIR PEERS.
20% MALE OFFENDERS HAV LONGER THAN THOSE IMPOSED ON 20% MALE OFFENDERS HAV LONGER THAN THOSE IMPOSED ON WHITE MALES CONVICTED OF LONGER THAN THOSE IMPOSED ON WHITE MALES CONVICTED OF SIMILAR CRIMES.
WHITE MALES CONVICTED OF SIMILAR CRIMES.
THIS ISN'T JUST UNACCEPTABLE, SIMILAR CRIMES.
THIS ISN'T JUST UNACCEPTABLE, IT IS SHAMEFUL.
THIS ISN'T JUST UNACCEPTABLE, IT IS SHAMEFUL.
AMY: SO PETE, IS THIS ABOUT IT IS SHAMEFUL.
AMY: SO PETE, IS THIS ABOUT INEQUITY OR IS THIS ABOUT AMY: SO PETE, IS THIS ABOUT INEQUITY OR IS THIS ABOUT ECONOMICS?
INEQUITY OR IS THIS ABOUT ECONOMICS?
>> IT'S BOTH.
ECONOMICS?
>> IT'S BOTH.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN >> IT'S BOTH.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S MIND AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S MIND FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
ON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S MIND FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
WHAT HE SAID THIS WEEK AT THE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
WHAT HE SAID THIS WEEK AT THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION IS WHAT HE SAID THIS WEEK AT THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION IS LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION IS LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN FEDERAL PRISONS.
LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN FEDERAL PRISONS.
219,000.
FEDERAL PRISONS.
219,000.
EIGHT TIMES WHAT IT WAS 30 219,000.
EIGHT TIMES WHAT IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.
EIGHT TIMES WHAT IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.
IT'S 40% OVER CAPACITY.
YEARS AGO.
IT'S 40% OVER CAPACITY.
YOU'VE GOT -- IF YOU ADD IN THE IT'S 40% OVER CAPACITY.
YOU'VE GOT -- IF YOU ADD IN THE STATES, 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN YOU'VE GOT -- IF YOU ADD IN THE STATES, 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN PRISON.
STATES, 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN PRISON.
AND AT A TIME OF DECLINING PRISON.
AND AT A TIME OF DECLINING BUDGETS THAT'S EXPENSIVE.
AND AT A TIME OF DECLINING BUDGETS THAT'S EXPENSIVE.
SO IS IT REALLY WORTH -- DOES BUDGETS THAT'S EXPENSIVE.
SO IS IT REALLY WORTH -- DOES THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME SO IS IT REALLY WORTH -- DOES THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME WHEN YOU SEND THESE LOW LEVEL THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME WHEN YOU SEND THESE LOW LEVEL DRUG OWE FENERS, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU SEND THESE LOW LEVEL DRUG OWE FENERS, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT HE WAS TALKING DRUG OWE FENERS, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
REALLY WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
MANDATORY MINIMUMS FOR THEM SO ABOUT.
MANDATORY MINIMUMS FOR THEM SO HE SENT A MEMO TO ALL THE U.S.
MANDATORY MINIMUMS FOR THEM SO HE SENT A MEMO TO ALL THE U.S.
ATTORNEYS SAYING DON'T PUT IN HE SENT A MEMO TO ALL THE U.S.
ATTORNEYS SAYING DON'T PUT IN YOUR INDICTMENT HOW MUCH DRUGS ATTORNEYS SAYING DON'T PUT IN YOUR INDICTMENT HOW MUCH DRUGS WERE INVOLVED IF IT WOULD YOUR INDICTMENT HOW MUCH DRUGS WERE INVOLVED IF IT WOULD TRIGGER A MANDATORY MINIMUM WERE INVOLVED IF IT WOULD TRIGGER A MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCE UNDER THE FEDERAL LAW TRIGGER A MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCE UNDER THE FEDERAL LAW FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW LEVEL, SENTENCE UNDER THE FEDERAL LAW FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW LEVEL, NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS, NO TIES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW LEVEL, NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS, NO TIES TO DRUG CARTELS OR ORGANIZED NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS, NO TIES TO DRUG CARTELS OR ORGANIZED CRIME OR GANGS, AND DON'T SELL TO DRUG CARTELS OR ORGANIZED CRIME OR GANGS, AND DON'T SELL TO CHILDREN.
CRIME OR GANGS, AND DON'T SELL TO CHILDREN.
IF THEY FIT ALL THOSE CRITERIA, TO CHILDREN.
IF THEY FIT ALL THOSE CRITERIA, DON'T TRIGGER THE MANDATORY IF THEY FIT ALL THOSE CRITERIA, DON'T TRIGGER THE MANDATORY MIMS.
DON'T TRIGGER THE MANDATORY MIMS.
NOW, I THINK WHAT HE'S REALLY MIMS.
NOW, I THINK WHAT HE'S REALLY TRYING TO DO IS TO START A NOW, I THINK WHAT HE'S REALLY TRYING TO DO IS TO START A NATIONWIDE DEBATE ON THIS.
TRYING TO DO IS TO START A NATIONWIDE DEBATE ON THIS.
THERE'S A SIGN THAT SOME NATIONWIDE DEBATE ON THIS.
THERE'S A SIGN THAT SOME REPUBLICANS ARE GIPPING TO THERE'S A SIGN THAT SOME REPUBLICANS ARE GIPPING TO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
REPUBLICANS ARE GIPPING TO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
HE MENTIONED RAND PAUL AND MAKE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
HE MENTIONED RAND PAUL AND MAKE LEE, THE SENATOR FROM UTAH.
HE MENTIONED RAND PAUL AND MAKE LEE, THE SENATOR FROM UTAH.
AND I THINK HE WANTS TO LEE, THE SENATOR FROM UTAH.
AND I THINK HE WANTS TO ULTIMATELY GET THE DRUG AND I THINK HE WANTS TO ULTIMATELY GET THE DRUG MANDATORY MINIMUMS OFF THE ULTIMATELY GET THE DRUG MANDATORY MINIMUMS OFF THE BOOKS.
MANDATORY MINIMUMS OFF THE BOOKS.
AMY: BUT GIVEN THOSE BOOKS.
AMY: BUT GIVEN THOSE RESTRICTIONS ON WHO IS ELIGIBLE AMY: BUT GIVEN THOSE RESTRICTIONS ON WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, IS THIS GOING TO HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, IS THIS GOING TO HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF FOR THIS, IS THIS GOING TO HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR PRISONS?
A REAL IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR PRISONS?
>> VERY GOOD QUESTION.
PEOPLE IN OUR PRISONS?
>> VERY GOOD QUESTION.
VERY HARD TO TELL.
>> VERY GOOD QUESTION.
VERY HARD TO TELL.
WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY VERY HARD TO TELL.
WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD FIT THIS WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD FIT THIS PROFILE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD FIT THIS PROFILE.
FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TALKING PROFILE.
FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TALKING ONLY ABOUT FEDERAL PRISON HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TALKING ONLY ABOUT FEDERAL PRISON HERE.
NOTHING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ONLY ABOUT FEDERAL PRISON HERE.
NOTHING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID OR SENT HIS MEMO TO THE NOTHING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID OR SENT HIS MEMO TO THE U.S.
ATTORNEYS WILL CHANGE WHAT SAID OR SENT HIS MEMO TO THE U.S.
ATTORNEYS WILL CHANGE WHAT THE STATES DO.
U.S.
ATTORNEYS WILL CHANGE WHAT THE STATES DO.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY THE STATES DO.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE MANDATORY MEMBERS ARE AND THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE MANDATORY MEMBERS ARE S.LLING UP THE PRISON OF THE MANDATORY MEMBERS ARE S.LLING UP THE PRISON SO IT COULD BE AS MANY AS A S.LLING UP THE PRISON SO IT COULD BE AS MANY AS A FOURTH OF PEOPLE WHO GO TO SO IT COULD BE AS MANY AS A FOURTH OF PEOPLE WHO GO TO PRISON FOR DRUG OFFENSES WOULD FOURTH OF PEOPLE WHO GO TO PRISON FOR DRUG OFFENSES WOULD MEET THIS CRITERIA.
PRISON FOR DRUG OFFENSES WOULD MEET THIS CRITERIA.
AND OF COURSE THE NUMBER OF MEET THIS CRITERIA.
AND OF COURSE THE NUMBER OF DRUG OFFENDERS IN PRISON IS AND OF COURSE THE NUMBER OF DRUG OFFENDERS IN PRISON IS ABOUT HALF THE INMATE DRUG OFFENDERS IN PRISON IS ABOUT HALF THE INMATE POPULATION.
ABOUT HALF THE INMATE POPULATION.
SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH.
POPULATION.
SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH.
>> WHAT'S THE REACTION OF LAW SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH.
>> WHAT'S THE REACTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO THIS?
>> WHAT'S THE REACTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO THIS?
IS THIS VIEWED SKEPTICALLY?
ENFORCEMENT TO THIS?
IS THIS VIEWED SKEPTICALLY?
>> WELL, I THINK TO SOME EXTENT IS THIS VIEWED SKEPTICALLY?
>> WELL, I THINK TO SOME EXTENT THEY WONDER WHAT EFFECT IT WILL >> WELL, I THINK TO SOME EXTENT THEY WONDER WHAT EFFECT IT WILL HAVE.
THEY WONDER WHAT EFFECT IT WILL HAVE.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS WHAT LAW HAVE.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE SAY IS THEY BUT THE OTHER THING IS WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE SAY IS THEY WANT THE BARGAINING CHIP.
ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE SAY IS THEY WANT THE BARGAINING CHIP.
WHEN THEY ARREST A LOW LEVEL WANT THE BARGAINING CHIP.
WHEN THEY ARREST A LOW LEVEL OFFENDER, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE WHEN THEY ARREST A LOW LEVEL OFFENDER, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY LOOK, YOU COULD GET FIVE OFFENDER, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY LOOK, YOU COULD GET FIVE OR 10 YEARS AUTOMATIC, TO SAY LOOK, YOU COULD GET FIVE OR 10 YEARS AUTOMATIC, MANDATORY SENTENCE.
OR 10 YEARS AUTOMATIC, MANDATORY SENTENCE.
UNLESS YOU GIVE US THE GOODS.
MANDATORY SENTENCE.
UNLESS YOU GIVE US THE GOODS.
WHERE DID YOU GET THE DRUGS UNLESS YOU GIVE US THE GOODS.
WHERE DID YOU GET THE DRUGS FROM?
WHERE DID YOU GET THE DRUGS FROM?
WE WANT TO KNOW WHO THE HIGHER FROM?
WE WANT TO KNOW WHO THE HIGHER UPS IN THE ORGANIZATION.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHO THE HIGHER UPS IN THE ORGANIZATION.
AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT UPS IN THE ORGANIZATION.
AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING THAT LEVERAGE.
AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING THAT LEVERAGE.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW ABOUT LOSING THAT LEVERAGE.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE >> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE OVERALL IN THE THINKING ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE OVERALL IN THE THINKING ABOUT MANDATORY MINIMUMS.
OVERALL IN THE THINKING ABOUT MANDATORY MINIMUMS.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN THE MANDATORY MINIMUMS.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN THE 1990'S BEING A POLICE REPORTER.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN THE 1990'S BEING A POLICE REPORTER.
AND HOW POPULAR THEY WERE 1990'S BEING A POLICE REPORTER.
AND HOW POPULAR THEY WERE POLITICALLY, NOT JUST WITH THE AND HOW POPULAR THEY WERE POLITICALLY, NOT JUST WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT ALSO WITH POLITICALLY, NOT JUST WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT ALSO WITH POLITICIANS.
LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT ALSO WITH POLITICIANS.
IT SEEMS REPUBLICANS NOW NOT POLITICIANS.
IT SEEMS REPUBLICANS NOW NOT ALL REPUBLICANS THINK IT'S A IT SEEMS REPUBLICANS NOW NOT ALL REPUBLICANS THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
ALL REPUBLICANS THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
>> THERE'S DEFINITELY A CHANGE GREAT IDEA.
>> THERE'S DEFINITELY A CHANGE HERE.
>> THERE'S DEFINITELY A CHANGE HERE.
THEY STARTED IN THE 1980'S.
HERE.
THEY STARTED IN THE 1980'S.
THEY WERE SORT OF CEMENTED INTO THEY STARTED IN THE 1980'S.
THEY WERE SORT OF CEMENTED INTO PLACE.
THEY WERE SORT OF CEMENTED INTO PLACE.
AND WERE ADDED TO DURING THE PLACE.
AND WERE ADDED TO DURING THE COCAINE-FUELED CRIME RISE IN AND WERE ADDED TO DURING THE COCAINE-FUELED CRIME RISE IN THE 1990'S.
COCAINE-FUELED CRIME RISE IN THE 1990'S.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN CHARLES THE 1990'S.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN CHARLES SHURM, THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR AND I REMEMBER WHEN CHARLES SHURM, THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM -- SHUMER, THE DEMOCRATIC SHURM, THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM -- SHUMER, THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM NEW YORK IN THE FROM -- SHUMER, THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM NEW YORK IN THE HOUSE, THEY ALL LOVED MANDATORY SENATOR FROM NEW YORK IN THE HOUSE, THEY ALL LOVED MANDATORY MINIMUMS.
HOUSE, THEY ALL LOVED MANDATORY MINIMUMS.
BUT I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS MINIMUMS.
BUT I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
BUT I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
NUMBER ONE THE CRIME RATE IS HAVE CHANGED.
NUMBER ONE THE CRIME RATE IS DOWN.
NUMBER ONE THE CRIME RATE IS DOWN.
NUMBER TWO AMERICANS JUST ARE DOWN.
NUMBER TWO AMERICANS JUST ARE NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT ILLEGAL NUMBER TWO AMERICANS JUST ARE NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT ILLEGAL DRUGS ANYMORE.
NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT ILLEGAL DRUGS ANYMORE.
YOU PUT ALL THAT STUFF DRUGS ANYMORE.
YOU PUT ALL THAT STUFF TOGETHER, PLUS THE COST OF YOU PUT ALL THAT STUFF TOGETHER, PLUS THE COST OF SENDING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO TOGETHER, PLUS THE COST OF SENDING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO PRISON.
SENDING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO PRISON.
AND MANY PEOPLE ARE TAKING PRISON.
AND MANY PEOPLE ARE TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT MANDATORY AND MANY PEOPLE ARE TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT MANDATORY MINIMUMS.
ANOTHER LOOK AT MANDATORY MINIMUMS.
AMY: WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH MINIMUMS.
AMY: WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH YOU, PETE.
AMY: WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH YOU, PETE.
BECAUSE WE'RE -- THERE WAS YOU, PETE.
BECAUSE WE'RE -- THERE WAS ANOTHER STORY THAT CAUGHT THE BECAUSE WE'RE -- THERE WAS ANOTHER STORY THAT CAUGHT THE EYE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ANOTHER STORY THAT CAUGHT THE EYE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
EYE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
NORTH CAROLINA'S GOVERNOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
NORTH CAROLINA'S GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW WHAT'S REGARDED NORTH CAROLINA'S GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW WHAT'S REGARDED AS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST VOTER SIGNED INTO LAW WHAT'S REGARDED AS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST VOTER I.D.
MEASURES IN THE COUNTRY.
AS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST VOTER I.D.
MEASURES IN THE COUNTRY.
>> PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF I.D.
MEASURES IN THE COUNTRY.
>> PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF EVERY VOTE CAST IS AMONG THE >> PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF EVERY VOTE CAST IS AMONG THE MOST IMPORTANT DUTIES I HAVE AS EVERY VOTE CAST IS AMONG THE MOST IMPORTANT DUTIES I HAVE AS GOVERNOR.
MOST IMPORTANT DUTIES I HAVE AS GOVERNOR.
AND IT'S WHY I SIGNED THESE GOVERNOR.
AND IT'S WHY I SIGNED THESE COMMON SENSE, COMMONPLACE AND IT'S WHY I SIGNED THESE COMMON SENSE, COMMONPLACE PROTECTIONS INTO LAW.
COMMON SENSE, COMMONPLACE PROTECTIONS INTO LAW.
AMY: REACTION WAS FIERCE AND PROTECTIONS INTO LAW.
AMY: REACTION WAS FIERCE AND SWIFT.
AMY: REACTION WAS FIERCE AND SWIFT.
>> LEGISLATORS IN NORTH SWIFT.
>> LEGISLATORS IN NORTH CAROLINA HAVE PUSHED THROUGH A >> LEGISLATORS IN NORTH CAROLINA HAVE PUSHED THROUGH A BILL THAT READS LIKE THE CAROLINA HAVE PUSHED THROUGH A BILL THAT READS LIKE THE GREATEST HITS OF VOTER BILL THAT READS LIKE THE GREATEST HITS OF VOTER SUPPRESSION.
GREATEST HITS OF VOTER SUPPRESSION.
RESTRICTED EARLY VOTING, NO SUPPRESSION.
RESTRICTED EARLY VOTING, NO MORE SAME DAY REGISTRATION, OR RESTRICTED EARLY VOTING, NO MORE SAME DAY REGISTRATION, OR EXTENDING VOTING HOURS TO MORE SAME DAY REGISTRATION, OR EXTENDING VOTING HOURS TO ACCOMMODATE LONG LINES, EXTENDING VOTING HOURS TO ACCOMMODATE LONG LINES, STRICTER PHOTO I.D.
ACCOMMODATE LONG LINES, STRICTER PHOTO I.D.
REQUIREMENTS, THAT DISQUALIFY STRICTER PHOTO I.D.
REQUIREMENTS, THAT DISQUALIFY THOSE ISSUED BY COLLEGES OR REQUIREMENTS, THAT DISQUALIFY THOSE ISSUED BY COLLEGES OR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AGENCIES AND THOSE ISSUED BY COLLEGES OR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AGENCIES AND IT GOES ON AND ON.
PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AGENCIES AND IT GOES ON AND ON.
AMY: ALL RIGHT.
IT GOES ON AND ON.
AMY: ALL RIGHT.
SO PETE, REPUBLICANS SAY WE'RE AMY: ALL RIGHT.
SO PETE, REPUBLICANS SAY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE SO PETE, REPUBLICANS SAY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS.
JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS.
DEMOCRATS SAY THIS IS VOTER INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS.
DEMOCRATS SAY THIS IS VOTER SUPPRESSION.
DEMOCRATS SAY THIS IS VOTER SUPPRESSION.
SO HOW DO WE TELL WHICH IS SUPPRESSION.
SO HOW DO WE TELL WHICH IS WHICH?
SO HOW DO WE TELL WHICH IS WHICH?
>> THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WHICH?
>> THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EVIDENCE ON EITHER SIDE FOR >> THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EVIDENCE ON EITHER SIDE FOR THIS BUT THE SUPPORTERS OF THE EVIDENCE ON EITHER SIDE FOR THIS BUT THE SUPPORTERS OF THE CHANGES WERE LIBERATED TO ACT THIS BUT THE SUPPORTERS OF THE CHANGES WERE LIBERATED TO ACT AND THEY PASSED THIS A MONTH CHANGES WERE LIBERATED TO ACT AND THEY PASSED THIS A MONTH AFTER THE U.S. SUPREME COURT AND THEY PASSED THIS A MONTH AFTER THE U.S. SUPREME COURT CUT THE HEART OUT OF THE VOTING AFTER THE U.S. SUPREME COURT CUT THE HEART OUT OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.
CUT THE HEART OUT OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.
SO THAT NORTH CAROLINA WAS NO RIGHTS ACT.
SO THAT NORTH CAROLINA WAS NO LONGER WHAT THEY CALL A COVERED SO THAT NORTH CAROLINA WAS NO LONGER WHAT THEY CALL A COVERED JURISDICTION.
LONGER WHAT THEY CALL A COVERED JURISDICTION.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET FEDERAL JURISDICTION.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET FEDERAL PERMISSION BEFORE THEY CHANGED THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET FEDERAL PERMISSION BEFORE THEY CHANGED THEIR LAWS.
PERMISSION BEFORE THEY CHANGED THEIR LAWS.
SO BOOM, RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX THEIR LAWS.
SO BOOM, RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX THEY MADE THESE CHANGES.
SO BOOM, RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX THEY MADE THESE CHANGES.
SO ONE OF THE NATION'S STRICT THEY MADE THESE CHANGES.
SO ONE OF THE NATION'S STRICT PHOTO I.D.
LAWS.
SO ONE OF THE NATION'S STRICT PHOTO I.D.
LAWS.
THE HILLARY CLINTON MENTION PHOTO I.D.
LAWS.
THE HILLARY CLINTON MENTION IT'S NO MORE SAME DAY THE HILLARY CLINTON MENTION IT'S NO MORE SAME DAY REGISTRATION.
IT'S NO MORE SAME DAY REGISTRATION.
IT CUTS EARLY VOTING FROM 17 REGISTRATION.
IT CUTS EARLY VOTING FROM 17 DAYS DOWN TO 10.
IT CUTS EARLY VOTING FROM 17 DAYS DOWN TO 10.
IT ENDS A PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN DAYS DOWN TO 10.
IT ENDS A PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN REGISTER THE DAY YOU VOTE AND IT ENDS A PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN REGISTER THE DAY YOU VOTE AND ALSO ENDS A PROGRAM WHERE YOUNG REGISTER THE DAY YOU VOTE AND ALSO ENDS A PROGRAM WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE CAN SORT OF SIGN UP IN ALSO ENDS A PROGRAM WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE CAN SORT OF SIGN UP IN ADVANCE TO REGISTER.
PEOPLE CAN SORT OF SIGN UP IN ADVANCE TO REGISTER.
SO IT'S -- IT'S MANY CHANGES, ADVANCE TO REGISTER.
SO IT'S -- IT'S MANY CHANGES, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT SAYS IF SO IT'S -- IT'S MANY CHANGES, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT SAYS IF YOU CAST YOUR BALLOT BY MISTAKE INCLUDING THE ONE THAT SAYS IF YOU CAST YOUR BALLOT BY MISTAKE IN THE WRONG PRECINCT IT WON'T YOU CAST YOUR BALLOT BY MISTAKE IN THE WRONG PRECINCT IT WON'T COUNT.
IN THE WRONG PRECINCT IT WON'T COUNT.
NOW, CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS HAVE COUNT.
NOW, CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS HAVE ALREADY FILED A COUPLE OF NOW, CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS HAVE ALREADY FILED A COUPLE OF LAWSUITS.
ALREADY FILED A COUPLE OF LAWSUITS.
AND HERE'S THEIR ARGUMENT.
LAWSUITS.
AND HERE'S THEIR ARGUMENT.
THEY SAY THIS HITS MINORITIES AND HERE'S THEIR ARGUMENT.
THEY SAY THIS HITS MINORITIES ESPECIALLY HARD BECAUSE THEY THEY SAY THIS HITS MINORITIES ESPECIALLY HARD BECAUSE THEY TEND TO BE THE PEOPLE WHO USE ESPECIALLY HARD BECAUSE THEY TEND TO BE THE PEOPLE WHO USE ALL THESE THINGS.
TEND TO BE THE PEOPLE WHO USE ALL THESE THINGS.
THEY HAVE SOME FIGURES HERE.
ALL THESE THINGS.
THEY HAVE SOME FIGURES HERE.
70% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THEY HAVE SOME FIGURES HERE.
70% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN NORTH CAROLINA VOTED EARLY LAST 70% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN NORTH CAROLINA VOTED EARLY LAST NOVEMBER.
NORTH CAROLINA VOTED EARLY LAST NOVEMBER.
COMPARED TO 52% OF WHITES.
NOVEMBER.
COMPARED TO 52% OF WHITES.
THEY ALSO SAY MINORITY VOTERS COMPARED TO 52% OF WHITES.
THEY ALSO SAY MINORITY VOTERS TEND TO USE SAME DAY THEY ALSO SAY MINORITY VOTERS TEND TO USE SAME DAY REGISTRATION MORE BECAUSE THEY TEND TO USE SAME DAY REGISTRATION MORE BECAUSE THEY MOVE MORE.
REGISTRATION MORE BECAUSE THEY MOVE MORE.
AND THEY HAVE TO RECORD THEIR MOVE MORE.
AND THEY HAVE TO RECORD THEIR NEW ADDRESSES.
AND THEY HAVE TO RECORD THEIR NEW ADDRESSES.
AND THEY SAY EARLY VOTING, NEW ADDRESSES.
AND THEY SAY EARLY VOTING, REDUCING EARLY VOTING IS GOING AND THEY SAY EARLY VOTING, REDUCING EARLY VOTING IS GOING TO BE HARD ON EVERYBODY BECAUSE REDUCING EARLY VOTING IS GOING TO BE HARD ON EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE LINES A TO BE HARD ON EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE LINES A LOT LONGER ON ELECTION DAY.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE LINES A LOT LONGER ON ELECTION DAY.
AND IT BECOMES MORE OF AN LOT LONGER ON ELECTION DAY.
AND IT BECOMES MORE OF AN ORDEAL FOR EVERYBODY.
AND IT BECOMES MORE OF AN ORDEAL FOR EVERYBODY.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT ORDEAL FOR EVERYBODY.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING >> I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS?
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS?
BECAUSE ERIC HOLDER HAS ALREADY TO DO ABOUT THIS?
BECAUSE ERIC HOLDER HAS ALREADY SHOWN THAT HE'S WILLING TO GO BECAUSE ERIC HOLDER HAS ALREADY SHOWN THAT HE'S WILLING TO GO AFTER WHAT HE SEEASS VOTING SHOWN THAT HE'S WILLING TO GO AFTER WHAT HE SEEASS VOTING RIGHTS -- VIOLATIONS WITH WHAT AFTER WHAT HE SEEASS VOTING RIGHTS -- VIOLATIONS WITH WHAT HE'S DONE WITH TEXAS.
RIGHTS -- VIOLATIONS WITH WHAT HE'S DONE WITH TEXAS.
ISN'T IT?
HE'S DONE WITH TEXAS.
ISN'T IT?
>> SO THE EASY THING FOR THE ISN'T IT?
>> SO THE EASY THING FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO DO IS >> SO THE EASY THING FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO DO IS JUST BE TO SUE OVER THESE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO DO IS JUST BE TO SUE OVER THESE MEASURES AND SAY COURT, YOU GOT JUST BE TO SUE OVER THESE MEASURES AND SAY COURT, YOU GOT TO STOP THESE.
MEASURES AND SAY COURT, YOU GOT TO STOP THESE.
BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO STOP THESE.
BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE BIGGER GAME IN NORTH BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE BIGGER GAME IN NORTH CAROLINA, JUST AS THEY HAVE IN FOR THE BIGGER GAME IN NORTH CAROLINA, JUST AS THEY HAVE IN TEXAS.
CAROLINA, JUST AS THEY HAVE IN TEXAS.
AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TEXAS.
AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS SAY WE KNOW THE PART AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS SAY WE KNOW THE PART OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT THAT TO DO IS SAY WE KNOW THE PART OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT THAT WAS IN EFFECT SINCE 1965 IS OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT THAT WAS IN EFFECT SINCE 1965 IS GONE.
WAS IN EFFECT SINCE 1965 IS GONE.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO GONE.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IN TEXAS, AND WHAT THEY'RE BUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IN TEXAS, AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN NORTH CAROLINA IN TEXAS, AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN NORTH CAROLINA IS SAY TO A JUDGE WE STILL NEED GOING TO DO IN NORTH CAROLINA IS SAY TO A JUDGE WE STILL NEED TO FORCE UNDER A DIFFERENT IS SAY TO A JUDGE WE STILL NEED TO FORCE UNDER A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE VOTING RIGHTS TO FORCE UNDER A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT BUT STILL SURVIVE THE SECTION OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT BUT STILL SURVIVE THE SUPREME COURT DECISION, WE NEED ACT BUT STILL SURVIVE THE SUPREME COURT DECISION, WE NEED TO REQUIRE THESE STATES TO SUPREME COURT DECISION, WE NEED TO REQUIRE THESE STATES TO STILL GET APPROVAL BECAUSE TO REQUIRE THESE STATES TO STILL GET APPROVAL BECAUSE THERE IS STILL DISCRIMINATION STILL GET APPROVAL BECAUSE THERE IS STILL DISCRIMINATION GOING ON.
THERE IS STILL DISCRIMINATION GOING ON.
SO I THINK IN A COUPLE OF GOING ON.
SO I THINK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY'LL FOLLOW THE SAME SO I THINK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY'LL FOLLOW THE SAME LINE IN NORTH CAROLINA.
WEEKS, THEY'LL FOLLOW THE SAME LINE IN NORTH CAROLINA.
>> WE SAW A LOT OF OUTRAGE FROM LINE IN NORTH CAROLINA.
>> WE SAW A LOT OF OUTRAGE FROM GROUPS.
>> WE SAW A LOT OF OUTRAGE FROM GROUPS.
AND SOME OF THE GROUPS ARE GROUPS.
AND SOME OF THE GROUPS ARE THREATENING TO SUE AND OTHER AND SOME OF THE GROUPS ARE THREATENING TO SUE AND OTHER THINGS.
THREATENING TO SUE AND OTHER THINGS.
BUT ACTUALLY ON THE PHOTO I.D., THINGS.
BUT ACTUALLY ON THE PHOTO I.D., THE PUBLIC OPINION FOR THAT IS BUT ACTUALLY ON THE PHOTO I.D., THE PUBLIC OPINION FOR THAT IS FAIRLY HIGH ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THE PUBLIC OPINION FOR THAT IS FAIRLY HIGH ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THAT IF PEOPLE ASK, IS IT FAIRLY HIGH ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THAT IF PEOPLE ASK, IS IT REASONABLE TO SHOW A PIECE O THAT IF PEOPLE ASK, IS IT REASONABLE TO SHOW A PIECE O -- A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR PHOTO REASONABLE TO SHOW A PIECE O -- A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR PHOTO I.D., IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
-- A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR PHOTO I.D., IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
MOST PEOPLE SAY, MAJORITIES SAY I.D., IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
MOST PEOPLE SAY, MAJORITIES SAY YES SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL MOST PEOPLE SAY, MAJORITIES SAY YES SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT PHOTO I.D.'S?
YES SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT PHOTO I.D.'S?
IS THERE AN ARGUMENT THESE ARE ABOUT PHOTO I.D.'S?
IS THERE AN ARGUMENT THESE ARE NEEDED?
IS THERE AN ARGUMENT THESE ARE NEEDED?
>> THE GOVERNOR YOU SHOWED A NEEDED?
>> THE GOVERNOR YOU SHOWED A LITTLE EXCERPT FROM IT.
>> THE GOVERNOR YOU SHOWED A LITTLE EXCERPT FROM IT.
HE SAID YOU HAVE TO SHOW A LITTLE EXCERPT FROM IT.
HE SAID YOU HAVE TO SHOW A PHOTO I.D.
TO BOARD A PLANE OR HE SAID YOU HAVE TO SHOW A PHOTO I.D.
TO BOARD A PLANE OR BUY SUDAFED AND WHY NOT SHOW IT PHOTO I.D.
TO BOARD A PLANE OR BUY SUDAFED AND WHY NOT SHOW IT TO VOTE?
BUY SUDAFED AND WHY NOT SHOW IT TO VOTE?
OPPONENTS SAY BOARDING A PLANE TO VOTE?
OPPONENTS SAY BOARDING A PLANE AND SUDAFED ARE NOT OPPONENTS SAY BOARDING A PLANE AND SUDAFED ARE NOT CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEED AND SUDAFED ARE NOT CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEED RIGHTS AND IT'S HARDER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEED RIGHTS AND IT'S HARDER FOR MINORITIES, THE POOR.
RIGHTS AND IT'S HARDER FOR MINORITIES, THE POOR.
TO GET THEM.
MINORITIES, THE POOR.
TO GET THEM.
IN NORTH CAROLINA, FOR EXAMPLE, TO GET THEM.
IN NORTH CAROLINA, FOR EXAMPLE, COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN'T USE IN NORTH CAROLINA, FOR EXAMPLE, COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN'T USE THEIR STUDENT I.D.
COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN'T USE THEIR STUDENT I.D.
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEIR STUDENT I.D.
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STATES FIGHT OVER IS WHETHER THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STATES FIGHT OVER IS WHETHER YOU CAN USE STUDENT I.D.
STATES FIGHT OVER IS WHETHER YOU CAN USE STUDENT I.D.
SO YES, THEY ARE POPULAR.
YOU CAN USE STUDENT I.D.
SO YES, THEY ARE POPULAR.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS THE SO YES, THEY ARE POPULAR.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS THE POLLS SHOW THAT THE OTHER BUT THE OTHER THING IS THE POLLS SHOW THAT THE OTHER PROVISIONS OF THIS LAW ARE NOT POLLS SHOW THAT THE OTHER PROVISIONS OF THIS LAW ARE NOT NEARLY AS POPULAR.
PROVISIONS OF THIS LAW ARE NOT NEARLY AS POPULAR.
SO WE ALL SORT OF FASTEN ON NEARLY AS POPULAR.
SO WE ALL SORT OF FASTEN ON PHOTO I.D.'S.
SO WE ALL SORT OF FASTEN ON PHOTO I.D.'S.
BUT THESE OTHER PROVISIONS PHOTO I.D.'S.
BUT THESE OTHER PROVISIONS COULD HAVE MAYBE A BIGGER BUT THESE OTHER PROVISIONS COULD HAVE MAYBE A BIGGER EFFECT THAN PHOTO I.D.
'S DO.
COULD HAVE MAYBE A BIGGER EFFECT THAN PHOTO I.D.
'S DO.
AMY: THAT'S WHY THE GOVERNOR EFFECT THAN PHOTO I.D.
'S DO.
AMY: THAT'S WHY THE GOVERNOR TALKED A LOT ABOUT VOTER I.D.
AMY: THAT'S WHY THE GOVERNOR TALKED A LOT ABOUT VOTER I.D.
AND NOT A LOT ABOUT THOSE OTHER TALKED A LOT ABOUT VOTER I.D.
AND NOT A LOT ABOUT THOSE OTHER THINGS.
AND NOT A LOT ABOUT THOSE OTHER THINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH POLITICS FOR A LITTLE LONGER.
WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH POLITICS FOR A LITTLE LONGER.
WE'RE GOING TO GET TO HILLARY POLITICS FOR A LITTLE LONGER.
WE'RE GOING TO GET TO HILLARY CLINTON.
WE'RE GOING TO GET TO HILLARY CLINTON.
SHE'S BEEN KEEPING A RATHER LOW CLINTON.
SHE'S BEEN KEEPING A RATHER LOW PROFILE SINCE SHE LOST THE SHE'S BEEN KEEPING A RATHER LOW PROFILE SINCE SHE LOST THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
PROFILE SINCE SHE LOST THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
BUT HER SPEECH TO THE AMERICAN STATE DEPARTMENT.
BUT HER SPEECH TO THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION THIS WEEK BUT HER SPEECH TO THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION THIS WEEK COUPLED WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT BAR ASSOCIATION THIS WEEK COUPLED WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SHE WAS STARTING A COUPLED WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SHE WAS STARTING A FOUNDATION OF HER OWN HAS MANY THAT SHE WAS STARTING A FOUNDATION OF HER OWN HAS MANY OBSERVERS THINKING THESE ARE FOUNDATION OF HER OWN HAS MANY OBSERVERS THINKING THESE ARE THE FIRST INDICATIONS OF A 2016 OBSERVERS THINKING THESE ARE THE FIRST INDICATIONS OF A 2016 WHITE HOUSE RUN.
THE FIRST INDICATIONS OF A 2016 WHITE HOUSE RUN.
AND THEN JUST THIS MORNING, THE WHITE HOUSE RUN.
AND THEN JUST THIS MORNING, THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND THEN JUST THIS MORNING, THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE VOTED TO BAN CNN AND NBC FROM REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE VOTED TO BAN CNN AND NBC FROM HOSTING REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTED TO BAN CNN AND NBC FROM HOSTING REPUBLICAN PRIMARY DEBATES NEXT TIME AROUND.
HOSTING REPUBLICAN PRIMARY DEBATES NEXT TIME AROUND.
THE RATIONALE E. THE TWO DEBATES NEXT TIME AROUND.
THE RATIONALE E. THE TWO NETWORKS HAVE PROJECTS ABOUT THE RATIONALE E. THE TWO NETWORKS HAVE PROJECTS ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WORKS.
NETWORKS HAVE PROJECTS ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WORKS.
>> IT'S TIME THAT WE DO WHAT'S HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WORKS.
>> IT'S TIME THAT WE DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR PARTY AND OUR >> IT'S TIME THAT WE DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR PARTY AND OUR CANDIDATES.
RIGHT FOR OUR PARTY AND OUR CANDIDATES.
AND BY THE WAY, IT'S THE RIGHT CANDIDATES.
AND BY THE WAY, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR VOTERS.
AND BY THE WAY, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR VOTERS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET A REAL THING TO DO FOR OUR VOTERS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET A REAL DEBATE OF SUBSTANCE IF IT'S RUN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET A REAL DEBATE OF SUBSTANCE IF IT'S RUN BY A NETWORK WHO WANTS TO HELP DEBATE OF SUBSTANCE IF IT'S RUN BY A NETWORK WHO WANTS TO HELP OUT HILLARY CLINTON.
BY A NETWORK WHO WANTS TO HELP OUT HILLARY CLINTON.
WE'RE DONE PUTTING UP WITH THIS OUT HILLARY CLINTON.
WE'RE DONE PUTTING UP WITH THIS NONSENSE.
WE'RE DONE PUTTING UP WITH THIS NONSENSE.
AMY: SO JEFF, NO NONSENSE.
NONSENSE.
AMY: SO JEFF, NO NONSENSE.
IS THIS A GOOD THING FOR AMY: SO JEFF, NO NONSENSE.
IS THIS A GOOD THING FOR HILLARY CLINTON TO BE SO FAR IS THIS A GOOD THING FOR HILLARY CLINTON TO BE SO FAR OUT FRONT AND CENTER THIS FAR HILLARY CLINTON TO BE SO FAR OUT FRONT AND CENTER THIS FAR BEFORE 2016?
OUT FRONT AND CENTER THIS FAR BEFORE 2016?
>> IT'S PROBABLY A MIXED BAG.
BEFORE 2016?
>> IT'S PROBABLY A MIXED BAG.
IT'S DEFINITELY A MIXED BAG.
>> IT'S PROBABLY A MIXED BAG.
IT'S DEFINITELY A MIXED BAG.
AND TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE, IT'S DEFINITELY A MIXED BAG.
AND TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE, SOME REPUBLICAN STATE CHAIRMEN AND TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE, SOME REPUBLICAN STATE CHAIRMEN AND MEMBERS OF THE R.N.C.
WHO SOME REPUBLICAN STATE CHAIRMEN AND MEMBERS OF THE R.N.C.
WHO ARE IN BOSTON FOR THAT MEETING AND MEMBERS OF THE R.N.C.
WHO ARE IN BOSTON FOR THAT MEETING WE JUST SAW.
ARE IN BOSTON FOR THAT MEETING WE JUST SAW.
AND THEY'RE LIKE LOOK, MAYBE WE JUST SAW.
AND THEY'RE LIKE LOOK, MAYBE THESE MOVIES WOULD BE FEIN AND THEY'RE LIKE LOOK, MAYBE THESE MOVIES WOULD BE FEIN BECAUSE THEY'RE SURE TO SORT OF THESE MOVIES WOULD BE FEIN BECAUSE THEY'RE SURE TO SORT OF SHOW ALL OF THE NOT SO BECAUSE THEY'RE SURE TO SORT OF SHOW ALL OF THE NOT SO GLAMOROUS SIDES OF THE CLINTON SHOW ALL OF THE NOT SO GLAMOROUS SIDES OF THE CLINTON STORY.
GLAMOROUS SIDES OF THE CLINTON STORY.
AND SOME OF THE CLINTON PEOPLE STORY.
AND SOME OF THE CLINTON PEOPLE ARE NOT THRILLED BY THESE AND SOME OF THE CLINTON PEOPLE ARE NOT THRILLED BY THESE MOVIES AT ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE ARE NOT THRILLED BY THESE MOVIES AT ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMPLETE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE MOVIES AT ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMPLETE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE TO SORT OF DRAMATIZE -- AND COMPLETE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE TO SORT OF DRAMATIZE -- AND CERTAINLY REHASH ALL THESE TO SORT OF DRAMATIZE -- AND CERTAINLY REHASH ALL THESE STORIES.
CERTAINLY REHASH ALL THESE STORIES.
BUT THAT SAID, SHE DEFINITELY STORIES.
BUT THAT SAID, SHE DEFINITELY IS FRONT AND CENTER AND THE BUT THAT SAID, SHE DEFINITELY IS FRONT AND CENTER AND THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, THE SOON TO IS FRONT AND CENTER AND THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, THE SOON TO BE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, I BELIEVE, CLINTON CAMPAIGN, THE SOON TO BE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, I BELIEVE, IS -- THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF BE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, I BELIEVE, IS -- THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
IS -- THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE'VE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE'VE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS GOING TO SORT OF TAKE A WE'VE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS GOING TO SORT OF TAKE A BREAK IN 2013 AND GOING TO SORT SHE WAS GOING TO SORT OF TAKE A BREAK IN 2013 AND GOING TO SORT OF HER BREAK IN 2013 AND GOING TO SORT OF HER HEALTH BACK IN ORDER.
OF HER HEALTH BACK IN ORDER.
AND SORT OF TAKE A REST.
HEALTH BACK IN ORDER.
AND SORT OF TAKE A REST.
FOR HILLARY CLINTON THIS IS AND SORT OF TAKE A REST.
FOR HILLARY CLINTON THIS IS RESTING.
FOR HILLARY CLINTON THIS IS RESTING.
GIVING A SPEECH IN CALIFORNIA RESTING.
GIVING A SPEECH IN CALIFORNIA ONE DAY AND OTHER THINGS.
GIVING A SPEECH IN CALIFORNIA ONE DAY AND OTHER THINGS.
BUT BEHIND THE SCENES ARE A LOT ONE DAY AND OTHER THINGS.
BUT BEHIND THE SCENES ARE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON HERE.
BUT BEHIND THE SCENES ARE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON HERE.
IF SHE WASN'T OUT THERE DRIVING OF THINGS GOING ON HERE.
IF SHE WASN'T OUT THERE DRIVING THIS CONVERSATION, OTHER PEOPLE IF SHE WASN'T OUT THERE DRIVING THIS CONVERSATION, OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BE OUT THERE TALKING THIS CONVERSATION, OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BE OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT HER.
WOULD BE OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT HER.
SO THEY'RE GOING WITH THE FLOW ABOUT HER.
SO THEY'RE GOING WITH THE FLOW HERE.
SO THEY'RE GOING WITH THE FLOW HERE.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR HER TO SORT HERE.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR HER TO SORT OF STAY COMPLETELY UNDER THE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR HER TO SORT OF STAY COMPLETELY UNDER THE RADAR.
OF STAY COMPLETELY UNDER THE RADAR.
THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE SOME RADAR.
THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE SOME CONTROL OF THE DISCUSSION HERE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE SOME CONTROL OF THE DISCUSSION HERE.
AMY: IF DIANE LANE WANTS TO CONTROL OF THE DISCUSSION HERE.
AMY: IF DIANE LANE WANTS TO PLAY ME IN THE MOVIE I'LL BE AMY: IF DIANE LANE WANTS TO PLAY ME IN THE MOVIE I'LL BE TOTALLY OK WITH THAT.
PLAY ME IN THE MOVIE I'LL BE TOTALLY OK WITH THAT.
ALL RIGHT.
TOTALLY OK WITH THAT.
ALL RIGHT.
BUT WE TALKED ALL ABOUT ALL RIGHT.
BUT WE TALKED ALL ABOUT HILLARY.
BUT WE TALKED ALL ABOUT HILLARY.
BUT THERE'S THIS -- THIS OTHER HILLARY.
BUT THERE'S THIS -- THIS OTHER PERSON WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE BUT THERE'S THIS -- THIS OTHER PERSON WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE SITTING VICE PRESIDENT, JOE PERSON WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE SITTING VICE PRESIDENT, JOE BIDEN.
SITTING VICE PRESIDENT, JOE BIDEN.
THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A BIDEN.
THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.
THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.
HE SEEMS TO BE PUTTING HIMSELF LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.
HE SEEMS TO BE PUTTING HIMSELF MORE OUT FRONT AND CENTER.
HE SEEMS TO BE PUTTING HIMSELF MORE OUT FRONT AND CENTER.
HE'S GOING TO IOWA NEXT MONTH.
MORE OUT FRONT AND CENTER.
HE'S GOING TO IOWA NEXT MONTH.
WHAT DO WE THINK?
HE'S GOING TO IOWA NEXT MONTH.
WHAT DO WE THINK?
>> HE IS A BIGGER AIRPLANE FOR WHAT DO WE THINK?
>> HE IS A BIGGER AIRPLANE FOR THE MOMENT.
>> HE IS A BIGGER AIRPLANE FOR THE MOMENT.
HE HAS AIR FORCE TWO AND CAN THE MOMENT.
HE HAS AIR FORCE TWO AND CAN FLY AROUND AND STILL GETS A LOT HE HAS AIR FORCE TWO AND CAN FLY AROUND AND STILL GETS A LOT OF NEWS ATTENTION.
FLY AROUND AND STILL GETS A LOT OF NEWS ATTENTION.
AND IF YOU'RE JOE BIDEN, WHY OF NEWS ATTENTION.
AND IF YOU'RE JOE BIDEN, WHY NOT?
AND IF YOU'RE JOE BIDEN, WHY NOT?
YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL, SITTING VICE NOT?
YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL, SITTING VICE PRESIDENT.
YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL, SITTING VICE PRESIDENT.
HELPED WIN THE SECOND TERM.
PRESIDENT.
HELPED WIN THE SECOND TERM.
AND SERVED THREE DECADES, MORE HELPED WIN THE SECOND TERM.
AND SERVED THREE DECADES, MORE THAN THREE DECADES IN THE AND SERVED THREE DECADES, MORE THAN THREE DECADES IN THE SENATE.
THAN THREE DECADES IN THE SENATE.
RUN FOR PRESIDENT A COUPLE OF SENATE.
RUN FOR PRESIDENT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
RUN FOR PRESIDENT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
WHY NOT ONE MORE TIME?
TIMES.
WHY NOT ONE MORE TIME?
THIRD TIME IS A CHARM PERHAPS.
WHY NOT ONE MORE TIME?
THIRD TIME IS A CHARM PERHAPS.
SO NO ONE KNOWS IF THE VICE THIRD TIME IS A CHARM PERHAPS.
SO NO ONE KNOWS IF THE VICE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO RUN FOR SO NO ONE KNOWS IF THE VICE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT IS GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
BUT ALL OF HIS ADVISORS WHO I PRESIDENT.
BUT ALL OF HIS ADVISORS WHO I SPEAK WITH SAY YOU KNOW WHAT?
BUT ALL OF HIS ADVISORS WHO I SPEAK WITH SAY YOU KNOW WHAT?
HE WOULD BE CRAZY TO SORT OF SPEAK WITH SAY YOU KNOW WHAT?
HE WOULD BE CRAZY TO SORT OF ACT LIKE HE'S NOT RUNNING SO HE WOULD BE CRAZY TO SORT OF ACT LIKE HE'S NOT RUNNING SO STAY IN THE MIX.
ACT LIKE HE'S NOT RUNNING SO STAY IN THE MIX.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO STAY IN THE MIX.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND HE IS ENJOYING THIS.
HAPPEN.
AND HE IS ENJOYING THIS.
HAVING THE TIME OF HIS LIFE AND AND HE IS ENJOYING THIS.
HAVING THE TIME OF HIS LIFE AND HE DID ADD HIS NAME TO THE HAVING THE TIME OF HIS LIFE AND HE DID ADD HIS NAME TO THE SPEAKING AGENDA OF THE HARKIN HE DID ADD HIS NAME TO THE SPEAKING AGENDA OF THE HARKIN STEAK FRY AND SOMETHING WE LOOK SPEAKING AGENDA OF THE HARKIN STEAK FRY AND SOMETHING WE LOOK AT AS POLITICAL REPORTERS, IN STEAK FRY AND SOMETHING WE LOOK AT AS POLITICAL REPORTERS, IN 2006 IT HAD BARACK OBAMA AND AT AS POLITICAL REPORTERS, IN 2006 IT HAD BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?
2006 IT HAD BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?
HE SHOWED UP AT THE STEAK FRY.
WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?
HE SHOWED UP AT THE STEAK FRY.
NOT JUST HIM.
HE SHOWED UP AT THE STEAK FRY.
NOT JUST HIM.
A WHOLE RAFT OF OTHER POTENTIAL NOT JUST HIM.
A WHOLE RAFT OF OTHER POTENTIAL PEOPLE.
A WHOLE RAFT OF OTHER POTENTIAL PEOPLE.
NO ONE IS -- NECESSARILY KNOWS PEOPLE.
NO ONE IS -- NECESSARILY KNOWS WHAT SECRETARY CLINTON IS GOING NO ONE IS -- NECESSARILY KNOWS WHAT SECRETARY CLINTON IS GOING TO DO.
WHAT SECRETARY CLINTON IS GOING TO DO.
SO PEOPLE ARE SORT OF PLANNING TO DO.
SO PEOPLE ARE SORT OF PLANNING FOR A LOT OF SCENARIOS.
SO PEOPLE ARE SORT OF PLANNING FOR A LOT OF SCENARIOS.
>> AND ALSO WANT TO EAT THE FOR A LOT OF SCENARIOS.
>> AND ALSO WANT TO EAT THE CHICKEN BY THE WAY.
>> AND ALSO WANT TO EAT THE CHICKEN BY THE WAY.
AMY: I COVERED THE LAST YEAR OF CHICKEN BY THE WAY.
AMY: I COVERED THE LAST YEAR OF HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN AND AMY: I COVERED THE LAST YEAR OF HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN AND THEN FOUR YEARS OF HER HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN AND THEN FOUR YEARS OF HER SECRETARY OF STATE IN WHICH IT THEN FOUR YEARS OF HER SECRETARY OF STATE IN WHICH IT WAS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT SECRETARY OF STATE IN WHICH IT WAS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
WAS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
THE CAMPAIGN HILLARY VERSUS THE PERSONALITIES.
THE CAMPAIGN HILLARY VERSUS THE SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY.
THE CAMPAIGN HILLARY VERSUS THE SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY.
DAN IT WAS CLEAR TO ME BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY.
DAN IT WAS CLEAR TO ME BY THE END THAT HER CAMP WAS DIVIDED.
DAN IT WAS CLEAR TO ME BY THE END THAT HER CAMP WAS DIVIDED.
SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT SHE SHOULD END THAT HER CAMP WAS DIVIDED.
SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT SHE SHOULD RUN AND SOME OF HILLARY LAND SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT SHE SHOULD RUN AND SOME OF HILLARY LAND PEOPLE THOUGHT SHE SHOULDN'T RUN AND SOME OF HILLARY LAND PEOPLE THOUGHT SHE SHOULDN'T AND WAS READY TO PUT UP HER PEOPLE THOUGHT SHE SHOULDN'T AND WAS READY TO PUT UP HER FEET AND PUT ON SOME FUZZY AND WAS READY TO PUT UP HER FEET AND PUT ON SOME FUZZY FEET AND PUT ON SOME FUZZY SLIPPERS WHEN SHE WAS LEAVING SLIPPERS WHEN SHE WAS LEAVING OFFICE AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HAPPENING.
OFFICE AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HAPPENING.
HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT THIS IS BE HAPPENING.
HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING?
HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING?
PARTICULARLY THERE'S SOME ACTUALLY HAPPENING?
PARTICULARLY THERE'S SOME DISTRACTING LIABILITIES, AND -- PARTICULARLY THERE'S SOME DISTRACTING LIABILITIES, AND -- >> WE'LL FIND POUT WHEN WE FIND DISTRACTING LIABILITIES, AND -- >> WE'LL FIND POUT WHEN WE FIND -- OUT WHEN WE FIND OUT.
>> WE'LL FIND POUT WHEN WE FIND -- OUT WHEN WE FIND OUT.
WE'RE PROBABLY WASTING A LOT OF -- OUT WHEN WE FIND OUT.
WE'RE PROBABLY WASTING A LOT OF TIME PREDICTING BUT GIVING WE'RE PROBABLY WASTING A LOT OF TIME PREDICTING BUT GIVING EVERY INDICATION THAT SHE'S TIME PREDICTING BUT GIVING EVERY INDICATION THAT SHE'S GOING TO RUN.
EVERY INDICATION THAT SHE'S GOING TO RUN.
YOU CAN FIND -- AS EACH MONTH GOING TO RUN.
YOU CAN FIND -- AS EACH MONTH GOES BY, I FIND IT HARDER TO YOU CAN FIND -- AS EACH MONTH GOES BY, I FIND IT HARDER TO FIND A DEMOCRAT, SOMEONE IN HER GOES BY, I FIND IT HARDER TO FIND A DEMOCRAT, SOMEONE IN HER WORLD OR OUT, WHO THINKS SHE FIND A DEMOCRAT, SOMEONE IN HER WORLD OR OUT, WHO THINKS SHE PROBABLY WON'T RUN.
WORLD OR OUT, WHO THINKS SHE PROBABLY WON'T RUN.
NOW, THE QUESTION IF IT'S A PROBABLY WON'T RUN.
NOW, THE QUESTION IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA, THAT IS NOT NOW, THE QUESTION IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY AS CLEAR.
GOOD IDEA, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY AS CLEAR.
I'M SURPRISED BY ONE STRAIN OF NECESSARILY AS CLEAR.
I'M SURPRISED BY ONE STRAIN OF THOUGHT.
I'M SURPRISED BY ONE STRAIN OF THOUGHT.
I'VE BEEN PICKING UP FROM SOME THOUGHT.
I'VE BEEN PICKING UP FROM SOME DEMOCRATS.
I'VE BEEN PICKING UP FROM SOME DEMOCRATS.
ACTUALLY IN THE CONVERSATION OF DEMOCRATS.
ACTUALLY IN THE CONVERSATION OF THESE MOVIES.
ACTUALLY IN THE CONVERSATION OF THESE MOVIES.
DO WE WANT TO RELIEVE ALL THIS THESE MOVIES.
DO WE WANT TO RELIEVE ALL THIS AGAIN?
DO WE WANT TO RELIEVE ALL THIS AGAIN?
YES, SHE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT AGAIN?
YES, SHE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
YES, SHE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
BUT DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
BUT DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS AGAIN?
BUT DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS AGAIN?
SO THERE ARE STILL BIG ALL THIS AGAIN?
SO THERE ARE STILL BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF SO THERE ARE STILL BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF OPERATION SHE CAN SORT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF OPERATION SHE CAN SORT OF OVERSEE.
OPERATION SHE CAN SORT OF OVERSEE.
AND RUN.
OVERSEE.
AND RUN.
HER CAMPAIGN WAS SORT OF A AND RUN.
HER CAMPAIGN WAS SORT OF A DISASTER.
HER CAMPAIGN WAS SORT OF A DISASTER.
IT WAS RUN VERY POORLY.
DISASTER.
IT WAS RUN VERY POORLY.
SO SHE KNOWS THAT IF SHE'S IT WAS RUN VERY POORLY.
SO SHE KNOWS THAT IF SHE'S GOING TO RUN AGAIN, AFTER -- SO SHE KNOWS THAT IF SHE'S GOING TO RUN AGAIN, AFTER -- HAVE TO THROW OUT THOSE PEOPLE GOING TO RUN AGAIN, AFTER -- HAVE TO THROW OUT THOSE PEOPLE AND BRING IN SOME NEW FOLKS AND HAVE TO THROW OUT THOSE PEOPLE AND BRING IN SOME NEW FOLKS AND ALL THAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND AND BRING IN SOME NEW FOLKS AND ALL THAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES RIGHT NOW.
ALL THAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES RIGHT NOW.
IF I HAD TO PUT MONEY ON IT, AT THE SCENES RIGHT NOW.
IF I HAD TO PUT MONEY ON IT, AT THE MOMENT, I WOULD SAY YES, IF I HAD TO PUT MONEY ON IT, AT THE MOMENT, I WOULD SAY YES, SHE RUNS.
THE MOMENT, I WOULD SAY YES, SHE RUNS.
BUT IF SHE DOESN'T, WE'LL FIND SHE RUNS.
BUT IF SHE DOESN'T, WE'LL FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO RUN.
BUT IF SHE DOESN'T, WE'LL FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO RUN.
>> IF I HAD TO PUT MONEY ON IT SOMEONE ELSE TO RUN.
>> IF I HAD TO PUT MONEY ON IT I WOULD SAY NEITHER OF THOSE >> IF I HAD TO PUT MONEY ON IT I WOULD SAY NEITHER OF THOSE MOVIES ARE GOING TO BE MADE.
I WOULD SAY NEITHER OF THOSE MOVIES ARE GOING TO BE MADE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS?
MOVIES ARE GOING TO BE MADE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS?
IS IT KRILL CHRIS CHRISTIE AND BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS?
IS IT KRILL CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND PAUL AT THIS -- IS IT IS IT KRILL CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND PAUL AT THIS -- IS IT STILL CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND RAND PAUL AT THIS -- IS IT STILL CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND PAUL AT THIS POINT?
STILL CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND PAUL AT THIS POINT?
>> CHRIS CHRISTIE LOOKS TO HAVE PAUL AT THIS POINT?
>> CHRIS CHRISTIE LOOKS TO HAVE A STRONG RE-ELECTION IN NEW >> CHRIS CHRISTIE LOOKS TO HAVE A STRONG RE-ELECTION IN NEW JERSEY AND IT'S A PRETTY WIDE A STRONG RE-ELECTION IN NEW JERSEY AND IT'S A PRETTY WIDE REPUBLICAN FIELD.
JERSEY AND IT'S A PRETTY WIDE REPUBLICAN FIELD.
AND WE'RE SEEING THIS DIVIDED REPUBLICAN FIELD.
AND WE'RE SEEING THIS DIVIDED IDEOLOGY HERE.
AND WE'RE SEEING THIS DIVIDED IDEOLOGY HERE.
ALL THESE FIGHTS BETWEEN THE IDEOLOGY HERE.
ALL THESE FIGHTS BETWEEN THE CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND PAUL ALL THESE FIGHTS BETWEEN THE CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND PAUL AND ON IMMIGRATION, MARCO CHRIS CHRISTIE AND RAND PAUL AND ON IMMIGRATION, MARCO RUBIO.
AND ON IMMIGRATION, MARCO RUBIO.
AND OTHERS.
RUBIO.
AND OTHERS.
SO THERE IS A VERY, VERY, VERY AND OTHERS.
SO THERE IS A VERY, VERY, VERY BIG REPUBLICAN BENCH A DEEP SO THERE IS A VERY, VERY, VERY BIG REPUBLICAN BENCH A DEEP REPUBLICAN BENCH AND A LOT OF BIG REPUBLICAN BENCH A DEEP REPUBLICAN BENCH AND A LOT OF GOVERNORS OUT THERE IF THEY WIN REPUBLICAN BENCH AND A LOT OF GOVERNORS OUT THERE IF THEY WIN RE-ELECTION.
GOVERNORS OUT THERE IF THEY WIN RE-ELECTION.
SCOTT WALKER IN WISCONSIN, JOHN RE-ELECTION.
SCOTT WALKER IN WISCONSIN, JOHN CASSIVE -- KASICH IN OHIO.
SCOTT WALKER IN WISCONSIN, JOHN CASSIVE -- KASICH IN OHIO.
A LOT OF PEESM WHO WANT THAT.
CASSIVE -- KASICH IN OHIO.
A LOT OF PEESM WHO WANT THAT.
SO I WOULD NOT PUT ANY MONEY ON A LOT OF PEESM WHO WANT THAT.
SO I WOULD NOT PUT ANY MONEY ON WHO THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IS SO I WOULD NOT PUT ANY MONEY ON WHO THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IS GOING TO BE.
WHO THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IS GOING TO BE.
THE PARTY HAS TO WORK OUT A LOT GOING TO BE.
THE PARTY HAS TO WORK OUT A LOT OF ITS IDEOLOGICAL THE PARTY HAS TO WORK OUT A LOT OF ITS IDEOLOGICAL DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN NOW AND OF ITS IDEOLOGICAL DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
AMY: IS IT EVEN RELEVANT FOR US THEN.
AMY: IS IT EVEN RELEVANT FOR US TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN AMY: IS IT EVEN RELEVANT FOR US TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN 2016?
TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN 2016?
IT'S 2013.
2016?
IT'S 2013.
WE'LL KEEP DOING THAT.
IT'S 2013.
WE'LL KEEP DOING THAT.
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL KEEP DOING THAT.
ALL RIGHT.
BEFORE WE GO TONIGHT, WE ALL RIGHT.
BEFORE WE GO TONIGHT, WE REMEMBER THE PASSING OF A BEFORE WE GO TONIGHT, WE REMEMBER THE PASSING OF A LEGENDARY JOURNALIST.
REMEMBER THE PASSING OF A LEGENDARY JOURNALIST.
JACK GERROMOND WAS A COLUMNIST LEGENDARY JOURNALIST.
JACK GERROMOND WAS A COLUMNIST IN WASHINGTON FOR HALF A JACK GERROMOND WAS A COLUMNIST IN WASHINGTON FOR HALF A CENTURY.
IN WASHINGTON FOR HALF A CENTURY.
HIS STOCK IN TRADE WAS CENTURY.
HIS STOCK IN TRADE WAS REPORTING ON AND CHRONICLING HIS STOCK IN TRADE WAS REPORTING ON AND CHRONICLING PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS DATING REPORTING ON AND CHRONICLING PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS DATING BACK TO THE JOHNSON-GOLDWATER PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS DATING BACK TO THE JOHNSON-GOLDWATER RACE OF 1964.
BACK TO THE JOHNSON-GOLDWATER RACE OF 1964.
MANY OF THEM -- HE WAS ALSO A RACE OF 1964.
MANY OF THEM -- HE WAS ALSO A STAPLE ON THE MCLAUGHLIN GROUP MANY OF THEM -- HE WAS ALSO A STAPLE ON THE MCLAUGHLIN GROUP FOR 15 YEARS.
STAPLE ON THE MCLAUGHLIN GROUP FOR 15 YEARS.
JACK GERMOND WHAT WAS 85.
FOR 15 YEARS.
JACK GERMOND WHAT WAS 85.
OUR THOUGHTS GO OUT TO HIS JACK GERMOND WHAT WAS 85.
OUR THOUGHTS GO OUT TO HIS FAMILY AND FORMER COLLEAGUES.
OUR THOUGHTS GO OUT TO HIS FAMILY AND FORMER COLLEAGUES.
THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.
FAMILY AND FORMER COLLEAGUES.
THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.
THIS REMINDER, OUR WEBCAST THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.
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