>> Woodruff: THE JULY JOBS REPORT PAINTED A LACKLUSTER PICTURE OF THE U.S. ECONOMY.
REPORT PAINTED A LACKLUSTER PICTURE OF THE U.S. ECONOMY.
162,000 JOBS WERE ADDED, BUT PICTURE OF THE U.S. ECONOMY.
162,000 JOBS WERE ADDED, BUT THAT WAS FEWER THAN EXPECTED.
162,000 JOBS WERE ADDED, BUT THAT WAS FEWER THAN EXPECTED.
GOOD EVENING, I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.
THAT WAS FEWER THAN EXPECTED.
GOOD EVENING, I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.
>> Brown: AND I'M JEFFREY BROWN.
GOOD EVENING, I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.
>> Brown: AND I'M JEFFREY BROWN.
ON THE "NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT, TWO >> Brown: AND I'M JEFFREY BROWN.
ON THE "NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT, TWO TAKES ON THE U.S. EMPLOYMENT ON THE "NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT, TWO TAKES ON THE U.S. EMPLOYMENT SITUATION.
TAKES ON THE U.S. EMPLOYMENT SITUATION.
FIRST, PAUL SOLMAN HAS OUR SITUATION.
FIRST, PAUL SOLMAN HAS OUR OVERVIEW OF TODAY'S NUMBERS.
FIRST, PAUL SOLMAN HAS OUR OVERVIEW OF TODAY'S NUMBERS.
>> Woodruff: AND A NEW REPORT OVERVIEW OF TODAY'S NUMBERS.
>> Woodruff: AND A NEW REPORT SAYS STATES SHOULD DO MORE TO >> Woodruff: AND A NEW REPORT SAYS STATES SHOULD DO MORE TO HELP PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES SAYS STATES SHOULD DO MORE TO HELP PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES FIND WORK.
HELP PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES FIND WORK.
WE TALK TO THE GOVERN DRIORVING FIND WORK.
WE TALK TO THE GOVERN DRIORVING THE EFFORT, DELAWARE DEMOCRAT WE TALK TO THE GOVERN DRIORVING THE EFFORT, DELAWARE DEMOCRAT JACK MARKELL.
THE EFFORT, DELAWARE DEMOCRAT JACK MARKELL.
>> Brown: THEN, THE STATE JACK MARKELL.
>> Brown: THEN, THE STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL >> Brown: THEN, THE STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL TRAVEL ALERT TODAY, WARNING OF DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL TRAVEL ALERT TODAY, WARNING OF POSSIBLE TERROR ATTACKS.
TRAVEL ALERT TODAY, WARNING OF POSSIBLE TERROR ATTACKS.
MARGARET WARNER EXPLAINS WHAT'S POSSIBLE TERROR ATTACKS.
MARGARET WARNER EXPLAINS WHAT'S AEHIND THE CONCERN THAT AL QDA MARGARET WARNER EXPLAINS WHAT'S AEHIND THE CONCERN THAT AL QDA MIGHT STRIKE AGAIN.
AEHIND THE CONCERN THAT AL QDA MIGHT STRIKE AGAIN.
>> Woodruff: ASIA IS CLAMORING MIGHT STRIKE AGAIN.
>> Woodruff: ASIA IS CLAMORING FOR MORE AMERICAN COAL, BUT THE >> Woodruff: ASIA IS CLAMORING FOR MORE AMERICAN COAL, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE TO FOR MORE AMERICAN COAL, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE TO MEET THE GROWING DEMAND.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE TO MEET THE GROWING DEMAND.
WE LOOK AT THE DEBATE OVER MEET THE GROWING DEMAND.
WE LOOK AT THE DEBATE OVER BRINGING MORE TRAINS AND SHIPS WE LOOK AT THE DEBATE OVER BRINGING MORE TRAINS AND SHIPS TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TO BRINGING MORE TRAINS AND SHIPS TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TO BOOST EXPORTS WHILE PROTECTING TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TO BOOST EXPORTS WHILE PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT.
BOOST EXPORTS WHILE PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> WE DON'T THINK IT'S AN THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> WE DON'T THINK IT'S AN EITHER/OR PROPOSITION.
>> WE DON'T THINK IT'S AN EITHER/OR PROPOSITION.
WE THINK THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP EITHER/OR PROPOSITION.
WE THINK THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP FAMILY WAGE JOBS AND BE GOOD WE THINK THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP FAMILY WAGE JOBS AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AND PROTECT THE FAMILY WAGE JOBS AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
STEWARDS AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> WE HAVE OUR FISH, WE HAVE OUR ENVIRONMENT.
>> WE HAVE OUR FISH, WE HAVE OUR SALMON, WE HAVE OUR CLEAN AIR.
>> WE HAVE OUR FISH, WE HAVE OUR SALMON, WE HAVE OUR CLEAN AIR.
WE'LL LOSE THAT.
SALMON, WE HAVE OUR CLEAN AIR.
WE'LL LOSE THAT.
THAT'SOSIN LG TO ME.
WE'LL LOSE THAT.
THAT'SOSIN LG TO ME.
>> Brown: A NEW SURVEY FINDS THAT'SOSIN LG TO ME.
>> Brown: A NEW SURVEY FINDS THAT AMERICANS OF DIFFERENT >> Brown: A NEW SURVEY FINDS THAT AMERICANS OF DIFFERENT RACES HAVE VERY DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT AMERICANS OF DIFFERENT RACES HAVE VERY DIFFERENT LEVELS OF OPTIMISM ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC RACES HAVE VERY DIFFERENT LEVELS OF OPTIMISM ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC FUTURE.
OF OPTIMISM ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC FUTURE.
RAY SUAREZ DIGS INTO THE FUTURE.
RAY SUAREZ DIGS INTO THE SURPRISING RESULTS.
RAY SUAREZ DIGS INTO THE SURPRISING RESULTS.
>> Woodruff: DAVID BROOKS AND SURPRISING RESULTS.
>> Woodruff: DAVID BROOKS AND RUTH MARCUS ANALYZE THE WEEK'S >> Woodruff: DAVID BROOKS AND RUTH MARCUS ANALYZE THE WEEK'S NEWS.
RUTH MARCUS ANALYZE THE WEEK'S NEWS.
>> BrownAND : HOW DO YOU SEND A NEWS.
>> BrownAND : HOW DO YOU SEND A SHIP MILES OFF COURSE, WITHOUT >> BrownAND : HOW DO YOU SEND A SHIP MILES OFF COURSE, WITHOUT TOUCHING ITS STEERING WHEEL?
SHIP MILES OFF COURSE, WITHOUT TOUCHING ITS STEERING WHEEL?
FOOL ITS G.P.S.
SYSTEM.
TOUCHING ITS STEERING WHEEL?
FOOL ITS G.P.S.
SYSTEM.
WE EXAMINE NEW RESEARCH THAT FOOL ITS G.P.S.
SYSTEM.
WE EXAMINE NEW RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THE VULNERABILITY OF WE EXAMINE NEW RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THE VULNERABILITY OF SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEMS.
SHOWS THE VULNERABILITY OF SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEMS.
>> Woodruff: THAT'S ALL AHEAD ON SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEMS.
>> Woodruff: THAT'S ALL AHEAD ON TONIGHT'S "NEWSHOUR."
>> Brown: UNEMPLOYMENT IS DOWN, BUT JOB GROWTH STILL LEAVES A LOT TO BE DESIRED.
BUT JOB GROWTH STILL LEAVES A LOT TO BE DESIRED.
THAT'S THE UPSHOT OF JULY'S JOBS LOT TO BE DESIRED.
THAT'S THE UPSHOT OF JULY'S JOBS DATA FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S THE UPSHOT OF JULY'S JOBS DATA FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.
THE "NEWSHOUR'S" ECONOMICS DATA FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.
THE "NEWSHOUR'S" ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN HAS THE "NEWSHOUR'S" ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN HAS OUR REPORT.
CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN HAS OUR REPORT.
>> Reporter: TODAY'S REPORT OUR REPORT.
>> Reporter: TODAY'S REPORT SUGGESTED THAT THE ECONOMIC >> Reporter: TODAY'S REPORT SUGGESTED THAT THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY MAY BE SLOWING DOWN.
SUGGESTED THAT THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY MAY BE SLOWING DOWN.
EMPLOYERS ADDED ONLY 162,000 NEW RECOVERY MAY BE SLOWING DOWN.
EMPLOYERS ADDED ONLY 162,000 NEW JOBS LAST MONTH, 23,000 LESS EMPLOYERS ADDED ONLY 162,000 NEW JOBS LAST MONTH, 23,000 LESS THAN ECONOMIC FORECASTERS JOBS LAST MONTH, 23,000 LESS THAN ECONOMIC FORECASTERS CONSENSUS PREDICATION.
THAN ECONOMIC FORECASTERS CONSENSUS PREDICATION.
THE NEW JOBS TOTAL WAS THE CONSENSUS PREDICATION.
THE NEW JOBS TOTAL WAS THE LOWEST SINCE MARCH.
THE NEW JOBS TOTAL WAS THE LOWEST SINCE MARCH.
MOREOVER, THE GOVERNMENT REVISED LOWEST SINCE MARCH.
MOREOVER, THE GOVERNMENT REVISED JOB GROWTH FOR MAY AND JUNE, MOREOVER, THE GOVERNMENT REVISED JOB GROWTH FOR MAY AND JUNE, DOWN BY 26,000.
JOB GROWTH FOR MAY AND JUNE, DOWN BY 26,000.
AS FOR THE NEW JOBS, MOST WERE DOWN BY 26,000.
AS FOR THE NEW JOBS, MOST WERE IN LOWER-PAYING INDUSTRIES LIKE AS FOR THE NEW JOBS, MOST WERE IN LOWER-PAYING INDUSTRIES LIKE RETAIL, HOTELS, AND RESTAURANTS.
IN LOWER-PAYING INDUSTRIES LIKE RETAIL, HOTELS, AND RESTAURANTS.
EVEN THOUGH INFLATION CONTINUES RETAIL, HOTELS, AND RESTAURANTS.
EVEN THOUGH INFLATION CONTINUES TO RISE, THE AVERAGE HOURLY WAGE EVEN THOUGH INFLATION CONTINUES TO RISE, THE AVERAGE HOURLY WAGE ACTUALLY DROPPED BY TWO CENTS, TO RISE, THE AVERAGE HOURLY WAGE ACTUALLY DROPPED BY TWO CENTS, THE FIRST DECLINE IN WAGES SINCE ACTUALLY DROPPED BY TWO CENTS, THE FIRST DECLINE IN WAGES SINCE LAST OCTOBER AND THE MOST SINCE THE FIRST DECLINE IN WAGES SINCE LAST OCTOBER AND THE MOST SINCE LATE 2011.
LAST OCTOBER AND THE MOST SINCE LATE 2011.
OVERALL, THE ECONOMY HAS CREATED LATE 2011.
OVERALL, THE ECONOMY HAS CREATED NEARLY 200,000 JOBS A MONTH OVERALL, THE ECONOMY HAS CREATED NEARLY 200,000 JOBS A MONTH SINCE THE START OF THE YEAR.
NEARLY 200,000 JOBS A MONTH SINCE THE START OF THE YEAR.
AND WHILE THOSE AREN'T EXACTLY SINCE THE START OF THE YEAR.
AND WHILE THOSE AREN'T EXACTLY TERRIBLE NUMBERS, THEY DON'T AND WHILE THOSE AREN'T EXACTLY TERRIBLE NUMBERS, THEY DON'T REPRESENT ROBUST GROWTH AFTER A TERRIBLE NUMBERS, THEY DON'T REPRESENT ROBUST GROWTH AFTER A DEEP RECESSION, ESPECIALLY WITH REPRESENT ROBUST GROWTH AFTER A DEEP RECESSION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WORKING AGE POPULATION DEEP RECESSION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WORKING AGE POPULATION GROWING BY 200,000 A MONTH, AS THE WORKING AGE POPULATION GROWING BY 200,000 A MONTH, AS IT DID IN JULY.
GROWING BY 200,000 A MONTH, AS IT DID IN JULY.
HEIASDI SHIERHOLZ OF THE IT DID IN JULY.
HEIASDI SHIERHOLZ OF THE ECONOMIC POLICY INSTITUTE POINTS HEIASDI SHIERHOLZ OF THE ECONOMIC POLICY INSTITUTE POINTS OUT, EVEN AT 200,000 A MONTH, IT ECONOMIC POLICY INSTITUTE POINTS OUT, EVEN AT 200,000 A MONTH, IT WILL TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN MANY OUT, EVEN AT 200,000 A MONTH, IT WILL TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN MANY REALIZE TO REDUCE UNEMPLOYMENT WILL TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN MANY REALIZE TO REDUCE UNEMPLOYMENT SIGNIFICANTLY.
REALIZE TO REDUCE UNEMPLOYMENT SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> IF WE CONTINUE WITH THAT PACE SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> IF WE CONTINUE WITH THAT PACE OF JOB GROWTH, GOING FORWARD, WE >> IF WE CONTINUE WITH THAT PACE OF JOB GROWTH, GOING FORWARD, WE GET A LITTLE LESS THAN 200,000 OF JOB GROWTH, GOING FORWARD, WE GET A LITTLE LESS THAN 200,000 JOBS A MONTH, EVERY SINGLE GET A LITTLE LESS THAN 200,000 JOBS A MONTH, EVERY SINGLE MONTH, INDEFINITELY, WE WON'T JOBS A MONTH, EVERY SINGLE MONTH, INDEFINITELY, WE WON'T FILL THE JOBS GAP FOR ANOTHER MONTH, INDEFINITELY, WE WON'T FILL THE JOBS GAP FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
FILL THE JOBS GAP FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
>> Reporter: TODAY'S FIVE YEARS.
>> Reporter: TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT CAME ON THE HEELS >> Reporter: TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT CAME ON THE HEELS OF ANOTHER LACKLUSTER REPORT ANNOUNCEMENT CAME ON THE HEELS OF ANOTHER LACKLUSTER REPORT THAT SHOWED THE U.S.
GROSS OF ANOTHER LACKLUSTER REPORT THAT SHOWED THE U.S.
GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT GREW ONLY THAT SHOWED THE U.S.
GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT GREW ONLY SLIGHTLY LAST QUARTER BY 1.7%.
DOMESTIC PRODUCT GREW ONLY SLIGHTLY LAST QUARTER BY 1.7%.
TODAY'S SUPPOSEDLY GOOD NEWS WAS SLIGHTLY LAST QUARTER BY 1.7%.
TODAY'S SUPPOSEDLY GOOD NEWS WAS THAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE SLID TODAY'S SUPPOSEDLY GOOD NEWS WAS THAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE SLID TO 7.4% FROM 7.6%, MARKING A THAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE SLID TO 7.4% FROM 7.6%, MARKING A FOUR-AND-A-HALF YEAR LOW.
TO 7.4% FROM 7.6%, MARKING A FOUR-AND-A-HALF YEAR LOW.
THAT'S PARTLY DUE TO WORKERS FOUR-AND-A-HALF YEAR LOW.
THAT'S PARTLY DUE TO WORKERS FINDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES IN AN THAT'S PARTLY DUE TO WORKERS FINDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES IN AN IMPROVING LABOR MARKET.
FINDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES IN AN IMPROVING LABOR MARKET.
BUT SOME OF THAT DECLINE CAN BE IMPROVING LABOR MARKET.
BUT SOME OF THAT DECLINE CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE SHRINKING SIZE BUT SOME OF THAT DECLINE CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE SHRINKING SIZE OF THE NATION'S WORKFORCE AS ATTRIBUTED TO THE SHRINKING SIZE OF THE NATION'S WORKFORCE AS MORE BABY BOOMERS, 10,000 OF OF THE NATION'S WORKFORCE AS MORE BABY BOOMERS, 10,000 OF THEM A DAY REACHING THE FULL MORE BABY BOOMERS, 10,000 OF THEM A DAY REACHING THE FULL SOCIAL SECURITY AGE OF 66, THEM A DAY REACHING THE FULL SOCIAL SECURITY AGE OF 66, AND, SAYS SHIERHOLZ, THERE'S SOCIAL SECURITY AGE OF 66, AND, SAYS SHIERHOLZ, THERE'S ANOTHER REASON THE UNEMPLOYMENT AND, SAYS SHIERHOLZ, THERE'S ANOTHER REASON THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS BEEN DROPPING.
ANOTHER REASON THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS BEEN DROPPING.
>> THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE RIGHT RATE HAS BEEN DROPPING.
>> THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE RIGHT NOW IS VASTLY OVERSTATING THE >> THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE RIGHT NOW IS VASTLY OVERSTATING THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE LABOR MARKET, NOW IS VASTLY OVERSTATING THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE LABOR MARKET, IN THE RECOVERY, BECAUSE WE HAVE IMPROVEMENT IN THE LABOR MARKET, IN THE RECOVERY, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY WORKERS WHO HAVE DROPPED IN THE RECOVERY, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY WORKERS WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE LABOR FORCE, OR NEVER SO MANY WORKERS WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE LABOR FORCE, OR NEVER ENTERED IT BECAUSE JOB OUT OF THE LABOR FORCE, OR NEVER ENTERED IT BECAUSE JOB OPPORTUNITIES ARE SO WEAK.
ENTERED IT BECAUSE JOB OPPORTUNITIES ARE SO WEAK.
>> Reporter: JOB OPPORTUNITIES OPPORTUNITIES ARE SO WEAK.
>> Reporter: JOB OPPORTUNITIES AS ESPECIALLY WEAK IN >> Reporter: JOB OPPORTUNITIES AS ESPECIALLY WEAK IN MANUFACTURING, WHICH SHOWED NO AS ESPECIALLY WEAK IN MANUFACTURING, WHICH SHOWED NO JOB GROWTH IN JULY.
MANUFACTURING, WHICH SHOWED NO JOB GROWTH IN JULY.
FACTORY JOBS HAVE REMAINED AT A JOB GROWTH IN JULY.
FACTORY JOBS HAVE REMAINED AT A STANDSTILL FOR A YEAR NOW.
FACTORY JOBS HAVE REMAINED AT A STANDSTILL FOR A YEAR NOW.
THE NUMBERS FOR BOTH LONG-TERM STANDSTILL FOR A YEAR NOW.
THE NUMBERS FOR BOTH LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYMENT AND PART-TIME THE NUMBERS FOR BOTH LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYMENT AND PART-TIME WORKERS LOOKING FOR FULL-TIME UNEMPLOYMENT AND PART-TIME WORKERS LOOKING FOR FULL-TIME JOBS WERE UNCHANGED IN JULY.
WORKERS LOOKING FOR FULL-TIME JOBS WERE UNCHANGED IN JULY.
>> Woodruff: WE CONTINUE OUR JOBS WERE UNCHANGED IN JULY.
>> Woodruff: WE CONTINUE OUR LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT PICTURE >> Woodruff: WE CONTINUE OUR LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT PICTURE WITH GOVERNOR MARKELL'S CALL TO LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT PICTURE WITH GOVERNOR MARKELL'S CALL TO INCREASE JOBS FOR THOSE WITH A WITH GOVERNOR MARKELL'S CALL TO INCREASE JOBS FOR THOSE WITH A DISABILITY.
INCREASE JOBS FOR THOSE WITH A DISABILITY.
ALSO AHEAD ON THE "NEWSHOUR": DISABILITY.
ALSO AHEAD ON THE "NEWSHOUR": THE STATE DEPARTMENT WARNS OF A ALSO AHEAD ON THE "NEWSHOUR": THE STATE DEPARTMENT WARNS OF A POSSIBLE TERRORIST ATTACK; THE THE STATE DEPARTMENT WARNS OF A POSSIBLE TERRORIST ATTACK; THE POSSIBLE TERRORIST ATTACK; THE EXPORTS; SURPRISING RACIAL EXPORTS; SURPRISING RACIAL DIVIDES OVER ECONOMIC OPTIMISM; BROOKS AND MARCUS ANALYZE THE DIVIDES OVER ECONOMIC OPTIMISM; BROOKS AND MARCUS ANALYZE THE WEEK'S NEWS AND FOOLING G.P.S.
BROOKS AND MARCUS ANALYZE THE WEEK'S NEWS AND FOOLING G.P.S.
SYSTEMS.
WEEK'S NEWS AND FOOLING G.P.S.
SYSTEMS.
BUT FIRST, THE OTHER NEWS OF THE SYSTEMS.
BUT FIRST, THE OTHER NEWS OF THE DAY.
BUT FIRST, THE OTHER NEWS OF THE DAY.
HERE'S KWAME HOLMAN.
DAY.
HERE'S KWAME HOLMAN.
>> Holman: THE JOBS REPORT SENT HERE'S KWAME HOLMAN.
>> Holman: THE JOBS REPORT SENT WALL STREET LOWER AT FIRST, BUT >> Holman: THE JOBS REPORT SENT WALL STREET LOWER AT FIRST, BUT IN THE END, STOCKS MANAGED SMALL WALL STREET LOWER AT FIRST, BUT IN THE END, STOCKS MANAGED SMALL GAINS.
IN THE END, STOCKS MANAGED SMALL GAINS.
THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE GAINS.
THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE ADDED 30 POINTS TO CLOSE AT THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE ADDED 30 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 15,658.
ADDED 30 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 15,658.
THE NASDAQ ROSE NEARLY 14 POINTS 15,658.
THE NASDAQ ROSE NEARLY 14 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 3,689.
THE NASDAQ ROSE NEARLY 14 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 3,689.
FOR THE WEEK, THE DOW GAINED TO CLOSE AT 3,689.
FOR THE WEEK, THE DOW GAINED JUST OVER HALF A PERCENT.
FOR THE WEEK, THE DOW GAINED JUST OVER HALF A PERCENT.
THE NASDAQ ROSE 2%.
JUST OVER HALF A PERCENT.
THE NASDAQ ROSE 2%.
THE DEFENSE RESTED TODAY IN THE NASDAQ ROSE 2%.
THE DEFENSE RESTED TODAY IN BOSTON, IN THE MURDER AND THE DEFENSE RESTED TODAY IN BOSTON, IN THE MURDER AND RACKETEERING TRIAL OF JAMES BOSTON, IN THE MURDER AND RACKETEERING TRIAL OF JAMES "WHITEY" BULGER.
RACKETEERING TRIAL OF JAMES "WHITEY" BULGER.
THE REPUTED FORMER UNDERWORLD "WHITEY" BULGER.
THE REPUTED FORMER UNDERWORLD BOSS OPTED NOT TO TESTIFY.
THE REPUTED FORMER UNDERWORLD BOSS OPTED NOT TO TESTIFY.
INSTEAD, HE TOLD THE FEDERAL BOSS OPTED NOT TO TESTIFY.
INSTEAD, HE TOLD THE FEDERAL COURT JUDGE: "AS FAR AS I'M INSTEAD, HE TOLD THE FEDERAL COURT JUDGE: "AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS IS A SHAM."
COURT JUDGE: "AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS IS A SHAM."
BULGER IS ACCUSED IN THE MURDERS CONCERNED, THIS IS A SHAM."
BULGER IS ACCUSED IN THE MURDERS OF 19 PEOPLE, AMONG OTHER BULGER IS ACCUSED IN THE MURDERS OF 19 PEOPLE, AMONG OTHER CRIMES.
OF 19 PEOPLE, AMONG OTHER CRIMES.
CLOSING ARGUMENTS ARE SET FOR CRIMES.
CLOSING ARGUMENTS ARE SET FOR MONDAY, AND THE JURY IS EXPECTED CLOSING ARGUMENTS ARE SET FOR MONDAY, AND THE JURY IS EXPECTED TO GET THE CASE ON TUESDAY.
MONDAY, AND THE JURY IS EXPECTED TO GET THE CASE ON TUESDAY.
THE ITALIAN COALITION GOVERNMENT TO GET THE CASE ON TUESDAY.
THE ITALIAN COALITION GOVERNMENT INITIALLY STRUGGLED TODAY TO THE ITALIAN COALITION GOVERNMENT INITIALLY STRUGGLED TODAY TO DEAL WITH FALLOUT FROM SILVIO INITIALLY STRUGGLED TODAY TO DEAL WITH FALLOUT FROM SILVIO BERLUSCONI'S TAX FRAUD DEAL WITH FALLOUT FROM SILVIO BERLUSCONI'S TAX FRAUD CONVICTION.
BERLUSCONI'S TAX FRAUD CONVICTION.
THE COUNTRY'S SUPREME COURT CONVICTION.
THE COUNTRY'S SUPREME COURT UPHELD THE FORMER PRIME THE COUNTRY'S SUPREME COURT UPHELD THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER'S FOUR-YEAR PRISON UPHELD THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER'S FOUR-YEAR PRISON SENTENCE ON THURSDAY.
MINISTER'S FOUR-YEAR PRISON SENTENCE ON THURSDAY.
THE 76-YEAR-OLD MEDIA SENTENCE ON THURSDAY.
THE 76-YEAR-OLD MEDIA BILLIONAIRE IALSO IS LIKELY TO THE 76-YEAR-OLD MEDIA BILLIONAIRE IALSO IS LIKELY TO LOSE HIS SEAT IN PARLIAMENT.
BILLIONAIRE IALSO IS LIKELY TO LOSE HIS SEAT IN PARLIAMENT.
TODAY, PRIME MINISTER ENRICO LOSE HIS SEAT IN PARLIAMENT.
TODAY, PRIME MINISTER ENRICO LETTA PLAYED DOWN PROSPECTS THAT TODAY, PRIME MINISTER ENRICO LETTA PLAYED DOWN PROSPECTS THAT BERLUSCONI'SUPPO SRTERS MIGHT LETTA PLAYED DOWN PROSPECTS THAT BERLUSCONI'SUPPO SRTERS MIGHT BOLT FROM THE GOVERNING BERLUSCONI'SUPPO SRTERS MIGHT BOLT FROM THE GOVERNING COALITION.
BOLT FROM THE GOVERNING COALITION.
>> I AM FULLY AWARE THAT THIS IS COALITION.
>> I AM FULLY AWARE THAT THIS IS A DELICATE MOMENT, POLITICALLY.
>> I AM FULLY AWARE THAT THIS IS A DELICATE MOMENT, POLITICALLY.
I SAID YESTERDAY AND I REPEAT IT A DELICATE MOMENT, POLITICALLY.
I SAID YESTERDAY AND I REPEAT IT NOW, I AM A PERSON WHO PUTS I SAID YESTERDAY AND I REPEAT IT NOW, I AM A PERSON WHO PUTS ITALY BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE.
NOW, I AM A PERSON WHO PUTS ITALY BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE.
IF THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO ITALY BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE.
IF THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO PUT OTHER PRIORITIES FIRST, THEN IF THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO PUT OTHER PRIORITIES FIRST, THEN I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AT THIS PUT OTHER PRIORITIES FIRST, THEN I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME TO HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME TO HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE.
TIME TO HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE.
FIRST OF ALL COMES THE COUNTRY, THOSE PRIORITIES ARE.
FIRST OF ALL COMES THE COUNTRY, FIRST OF ALL IS ITALY.
FIRST OF ALL COMES THE COUNTRY, FIRST OF ALL IS ITALY.
>> Holman: BERLUSCONI CONDEMNED FIRST OF ALL IS ITALY.
>> Holman: BERLUSCONI CONDEMNED THE COURT RULING, BUT IT IS >> Holman: BERLUSCONI CONDEMNED THE COURT RULING, BUT IT IS UNLIKELY HE WILL SERVE ACTUAL THE COURT RULING, BUT IT IS UNLIKELY HE WILL SERVE ACTUAL JAIL TIME.
UNLIKELY HE WILL SERVE ACTUAL JAIL TIME.
INSTEAD, HE'S LIKELY TO DO A JAIL TIME.
INSTEAD, HE'S LIKELY TO DO A YEAR OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OR A INSTEAD, HE'S LIKELY TO DO A YEAR OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OR A YEAR OF HOUSE ARREST.
YEAR OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OR A YEAR OF HOUSE ARREST.
IN EGYPT, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD YEAR OF HOUSE ARREST.
IN EGYPT, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ORGANIZED NEW MASS MARCHES IN EGYPT, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ORGANIZED NEW MASS MARCHES DESPITE GOVERNMENT WARNINGS SUCH ORGANIZED NEW MASS MARCHES DESPITE GOVERNMENT WARNINGS SUCH GATHERINGS WOULD BE BROKEN UP.
DESPITE GOVERNMENT WARNINGS SUCH GATHERINGS WOULD BE BROKEN UP.
SUPPORTERS OF DEPOSED FORMER GATHERINGS WOULD BE BROKEN UP.
SUPPORTERS OF DEPOSED FORMER PRESIDENT MOHAMMED MORSI MARCHED SUPPORTERS OF DEPOSED FORMER PRESIDENT MOHAMMED MORSI MARCHED TO THE MILITARY INTELLIGENCE PRESIDENT MOHAMMED MORSI MARCHED TO THE MILITARY INTELLIGENCE HEADQUARTERS IN CAIRO.
TO THE MILITARY INTELLIGENCE HEADQUARTERS IN CAIRO.
THEY ALSO STARTED A NEW SIT-IN HEADQUARTERS IN CAIRO.
THEY ALSO STARTED A NEW SIT-IN AT THE AIRPORT.
THEY ALSO STARTED A NEW SIT-IN AT THE AIRPORT.
BUT AMID THE PROTESTS, STATE AT THE AIRPORT.
BUT AMID THE PROTESTS, STATE T.V.
ANNOUNCED POLICE WILL BUT AMID THE PROTESTS, STATE T.V.
ANNOUNCED POLICE WILL BLOCKADE EXISTING SIT-INS.
T.V.
ANNOUNCED POLICE WILL BLOCKADE EXISTING SIT-INS.
THE INTERIM CABINET HAS WARNED BLOCKADE EXISTING SIT-INS.
THE INTERIM CABINET HAS WARNED THE CAMP SITES WILL BE THE INTERIM CABINET HAS WARNED THE CAMP SITES WILL BE DISBANDED-- ONE WAY OR THE THE CAMP SITES WILL BE DISBANDED-- ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
DISBANDED-- ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT REFUSED OTHER.
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT REFUSED TODAY TO STAY AN ORDER THAT THE U.S. SUPREME COURT REFUSED TODAY TO STAY AN ORDER THAT CALIFORNIA RELEASE 10,000 STATE TODAY TO STAY AN ORDER THAT CALIFORNIA RELEASE 10,000 STATE PRISON INMATES.
CALIFORNIA RELEASE 10,000 STATE PRISON INMATES.
A LOWER FEDERAL COURT REQUIRED PRISON INMATES.
A LOWER FEDERAL COURT REQUIRED THE RELEASE BY YEAR'S END, TO A LOWER FEDERAL COURT REQUIRED THE RELEASE BY YEAR'S END, TO EASE CROWDING.
THE RELEASE BY YEAR'S END, TO EASE CROWDING.
GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN ARGUED THE EASE CROWDING.
GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN ARGUED THE STATE NEEDED MORE TIME TO FIND GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN ARGUED THE STATE NEEDED MORE TIME TO FIND ALTERNATIVES AND LETTING OUT STATE NEEDED MORE TIME TO FIND ALTERNATIVES AND LETTING OUT MORE PRISONERS EARLY WILL ALTERNATIVES AND LETTING OUT MORE PRISONERS EARLY WILL JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC SAFETY.
MORE PRISONERS EARLY WILL JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE STATE'S 33 PRISONS ARE JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE STATE'S 33 PRISONS ARE REPORTED TO BE AT 150% OF THE STATE'S 33 PRISONS ARE REPORTED TO BE AT 150% OF CAPACITY.
REPORTED TO BE AT 150% OF CAPACITY.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DAY'S CAPACITY.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DAY'S MAJOR STORIES.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DAY'S MAJOR STORIES.
NOW, BACK TO JUDY.
MAJOR STORIES.
NOW, BACK TO JUDY.
>> Woodruff: AND WE RETURN TO NOW, BACK TO JUDY.
>> Woodruff: AND WE RETURN TO THE JOBS STORY WITH A LOOK AT >> Woodruff: AND WE RETURN TO THE JOBS STORY WITH A LOOK AT HOW DIFFICULT THE LABOR MARKET THE JOBS STORY WITH A LOOK AT HOW DIFFICULT THE LABOR MARKET IS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HOW DIFFICULT THE LABOR MARKET IS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.
IS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.
ESTIMATES SHOW THAT OF THE 54 AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.
ESTIMATES SHOW THAT OF THE 54 MILLION AMERICANS WITH A ESTIMATES SHOW THAT OF THE 54 MILLION AMERICANS WITH A DISABILITY, JUST 20% ARE MILLION AMERICANS WITH A DISABILITY, JUST 20% ARE EMPLOYED OR SEEKING A JOB.
DISABILITY, JUST 20% ARE EMPLOYED OR SEEKING A JOB.
A NEW REPORT OUT TODAY HAS EMPLOYED OR SEEKING A JOB.
A NEW REPORT OUT TODAY HAS RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THOSE A NEW REPORT OUT TODAY HAS RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THOSE PROSPECTS.
RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THOSE PROSPECTS.
IT COMES FROM DELAWARE GOVERNOR PROSPECTS.
IT COMES FROM DELAWARE GOVERNOR JACK MARKELL, THE CURRENT IT COMES FROM DELAWARE GOVERNOR JACK MARKELL, THE CURRENT CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL JACK MARKELL, THE CURRENT CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION.
CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION.
I SPOKE WITH HIM A SHORT TIME GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION.
I SPOKE WITH HIM A SHORT TIME AGO.
I SPOKE WITH HIM A SHORT TIME AGO.
GOVERNOR JACK MARKELL, THANK YOU AGO.
GOVERNOR JACK MARKELL, THANK YOU FOR TALKING WITH US.
GOVERNOR JACK MARKELL, THANK YOU FOR TALKING WITH US.
>> Pelley: GOOD TO BE WITH FOR TALKING WITH US.
>> Pelley: GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, THANKS SO MUCH.
>> Pelley: GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, THANKS SO MUCH.
>> SO WE KNOW FROM TODAY'S YOU, THANKS SO MUCH.
>> SO WE KNOW FROM TODAY'S UNEMPLOYMENT REPORT THE JOBS >> SO WE KNOW FROM TODAY'S UNEMPLOYMENT REPORT THE JOBS PICTURE IS IMPROVING BUT IT'S 12 UNEMPLOYMENT REPORT THE JOBS PICTURE IS IMPROVING BUT IT'S 12 MILLION AMERICANS OUT OF WORK PICTURE IS IMPROVING BUT IT'S 12 MILLION AMERICANS OUT OF WORK WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A JOB.
MILLION AMERICANS OUT OF WORK WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A JOB.
WHY FOCUS ON PEOPLE WITH WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A JOB.
WHY FOCUS ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES?
WHY FOCUS ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES?
>> THERE ARE SO MANY COMPANIES DISABILITIES?
>> THERE ARE SO MANY COMPANIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE >> THERE ARE SO MANY COMPANIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH PARTICULAR SKILLS AND THE FACT LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH PARTICULAR SKILLS AND THE FACT IS WE'VE GOT TO FOCUS ON THE PARTICULAR SKILLS AND THE FACT IS WE'VE GOT TO FOCUS ON THE ABILITY AND NOT ON THE IS WE'VE GOT TO FOCUS ON THE ABILITY AND NOT ON THE DISABILITY AND WE HAVE SEEN SO ABILITY AND NOT ON THE DISABILITY AND WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY COMPANIES AROUND THE DISABILITY AND WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY COMPANIES AROUND THE COUNTRY BENEFIT WHEN THEY GIVE MANY COMPANIES AROUND THE COUNTRY BENEFIT WHEN THEY GIVE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES A SHOTT COUNTRY BENEFIT WHEN THEY GIVE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES A SHOTT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES A SHOTT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
>> YOABOUT.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
>> YOABOUT.
>> Woodruff: YOU ARE SAYING IN >> YOABOUT.
>> Woodruff: YOU ARE SAYING IN THIS REPORT THAT YOU'VE ISSUED >> Woodruff: YOU ARE SAYING IN THIS REPORT THAT YOU'VE ISSUED TODAY THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT A THIS REPORT THAT YOU'VE ISSUED TODAY THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT A SOCIAL SERVICE ON THE PART OF TODAY THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT A SOCIAL SERVICE ON THE PART OF EMPLOYERS BUT ABOUT THE BOTTOM SOCIAL SERVICE ON THE PART OF EMPLOYERS BUT ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE.
EMPLOYERS BUT ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE.
EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.
LINE.
EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.
>> ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.
>> ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS OF THE LAST YEAR IS >> ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS OF THE LAST YEAR IS PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US THEY EMPLOY THINGS OF THE LAST YEAR IS PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US THEY EMPLOY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES NOT PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US THEY EMPLOY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES NOT BECAUSE IT'S CHARITY BUT IT'S IN PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES NOT BECAUSE IT'S CHARITY BUT IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR BECAUSE IT'S CHARITY BUT IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.
THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.
THEY FOUND PEOPLE WITH SHAREHOLDERS.
THEY FOUND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE THESE SKILLS, THEY FOUND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE THESE SKILLS, THEY'RE LOYAL, THEY SHOW UP ON DISABILITIES HAVE THESE SKILLS, THEY'RE LOYAL, THEY SHOW UP ON TIME, THEY'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THEY'RE LOYAL, THEY SHOW UP ON TIME, THEY'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE TOB TURNOVER.
TIME, THEY'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE TOB TURNOVER.
AND SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE C.E.O.
TOB TURNOVER.
AND SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE C.E.O.
OF A COMPANY LIKE WALGREENS TELL AND SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE C.E.O.
OF A COMPANY LIKE WALGREENS TELL HIS FELLOW C.E.O.s THAT THAT'S OF A COMPANY LIKE WALGREENS TELL HIS FELLOW C.E.O.s THAT THAT'S WHY HE HIRES PEOPLE WITH HIS FELLOW C.E.O.s THAT THAT'S WHY HE HIRES PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
WHY HE HIRES PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
ICE VERY EXCITING AND WE'RE DISABILITIES.
ICE VERY EXCITING AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ICE VERY EXCITING AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT GOVERNORS HAVE ALL THE TOOLS TOS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT GOVERNORS HAVE ALL THE TOOLS TOS THAT THEY NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE GOVERNORS HAVE ALL THE TOOLS TOS THAT THEY NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESSES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT THEY NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESSES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO WANT TO PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OF BUSINESSES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO WANT TO PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY TO PEOPLE WITH WHO WANT TO PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
OPPORTUNITY TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
>> Woodruff: IF THAT'S THE DISABILITIES.
>> Woodruff: IF THAT'S THE STORY, WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE >> Woodruff: IF THAT'S THE STORY, WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE BUSINESSES HIRING PEOPLE WITH STORY, WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE BUSINESSES HIRING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES?
BUSINESSES HIRING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES?
>> WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT.
DISABILITIES?
>> WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
>> WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NOT ENOUGH BUSINESSES ARE THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NOT ENOUGH BUSINESSES ARE HEARING THIS MESSAGE.
NOT ENOUGH BUSINESSES ARE HEARING THIS MESSAGE.
THEY DON'T KNOW THERE'S SO MANY HEARING THIS MESSAGE.
THEY DON'T KNOW THERE'S SO MANY SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLES OF COMPANY THEY DON'T KNOW THERE'S SO MANY SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLES OF COMPANY PROSE RIDE ISING THESE SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLES OF COMPANY PROSE RIDE ISING THESE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO PROSE RIDE ISING THESE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND HOW EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND HOW WELL IT'S WORKING OUT.
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND HOW WELL IT'S WORKING OUT.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
WELL IT'S WORKING OUT.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, STATES HAVE TO DO A THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, STATES HAVE TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB.
NUMBER TWO, STATES HAVE TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB.
FOR TOO LONG STATES HAVE MUCH BETTER JOB.
FOR TOO LONG STATES HAVE APPROACHED BUSINESSES ASKINGVORE FOR TOO LONG STATES HAVE APPROACHED BUSINESSES ASKINGVORE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR APPROACHED BUSINESSES ASKINGVORE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES REALLY EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES REALLY AS A CHARITY.
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES REALLY AS A CHARITY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
AS A CHARITY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR MIND SETH.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR MIND SETH.
WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR MIND SETH.
WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE BUSINESS PARTNERS.
WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE BUSINESS PARTNERS.
A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE BUSINESS PARTNERS.
A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH SKILLS.
A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH SKILLS.
WE BRING THOSE PEOPLE -- WE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH SKILLS.
WE BRING THOSE PEOPLE -- WE BRING PEOPLE.
WE BRING THOSE PEOPLE -- WE BRING PEOPLE.
IT COULD BE PEOPLE WITH BRING PEOPLE.
IT COULD BE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE IT COULD BE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRADITIONALLY ABLED.
DISABILITIES, IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRADITIONALLY ABLED.
WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO WHO ARE TRADITIONALLY ABLED.
WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING PEOPLE WITH THE NECESSARY WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING PEOPLE WITH THE NECESSARY SKILLS AND I THINK THE BETTER WE BRING PEOPLE WITH THE NECESSARY SKILLS AND I THINK THE BETTER WE DO AS STATES AND THE MORE SKILLS AND I THINK THE BETTER WE DO AS STATES AND THE MORE BUSINESSES HEAR FROM OTHER DO AS STATES AND THE MORE BUSINESSES HEAR FROM OTHER BUSINESS IT IS MORE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES HEAR FROM OTHER BUSINESS IT IS MORE SUCCESSFUL WE'LL BE.
BUSINESS IT IS MORE SUCCESSFUL WE'LL BE.
>> Woodruff: GOVERNOR, GIVE US WE'LL BE.
>> Woodruff: GOVERNOR, GIVE US EXAMPLES OF THE KIND OF JOB, THE >> Woodruff: GOVERNOR, GIVE US EXAMPLES OF THE KIND OF JOB, THE KIND OF WORK PEOPLE WITH EXAMPLES OF THE KIND OF JOB, THE KIND OF WORK PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, EITHER PHYSICAL KIND OF WORK PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, EITHER PHYSICAL DISABILITIES OR INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, EITHER PHYSICAL DISABILITIES OR INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES ARE DOING OR CAN DO DISABILITIES OR INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES ARE DOING OR CAN DO THAT MIGHT SURPRISE OUR DISABILITIES ARE DOING OR CAN DO THAT MIGHT SURPRISE OUR AUDIENCE?
THAT MIGHT SURPRISE OUR AUDIENCE?
>> THERE IS SUCH A WIDE RANGE.
AUDIENCE?
>> THERE IS SUCH A WIDE RANGE.
LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE: WE >> THERE IS SUCH A WIDE RANGE.
LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE: WE HAVE A COMPANY ACTUALLY IN LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE: WE HAVE A COMPANY ACTUALLY IN DELAWARE BUT IT'S A REGIONAL HAVE A COMPANY ACTUALLY IN DELAWARE BUT IT'S A REGIONAL I.T.
COMPANY, THOUSANDS OF DELAWARE BUT IT'S A REGIONAL I.T.
COMPANY, THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES.
I.T.
COMPANY, THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES.
THEY'VE COMMITTED OVER THE NEXT EMPLOYEES.
THEY'VE COMMITTED OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS THAT 3% OF THEIR I.T.
THEY'VE COMMITTED OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS THAT 3% OF THEIR I.T.
CONSULTANTS WILL BE PEOPLE WITH FEW YEARS THAT 3% OF THEIR I.T.
CONSULTANTS WILL BE PEOPLE WITH AUTISM BECAUSE THEY FOUND THAT CONSULTANTS WILL BE PEOPLE WITH AUTISM BECAUSE THEY FOUND THAT MANY PEOPLE WITH AUTISM ARE AUTISM BECAUSE THEY FOUND THAT MANY PEOPLE WITH AUTISM ARE GREAT AT DATA TESTING AND MANY PEOPLE WITH AUTISM ARE GREAT AT DATA TESTING AND SOFTWARE QUALITY ANALYSIS.
GREAT AT DATA TESTING AND SOFTWARE QUALITY ANALYSIS.
WE'VE MET EXECUTIVES AT SOFTWARE QUALITY ANALYSIS.
WE'VE MET EXECUTIVES AT MICROSOFT AND HIGHMARK INSURANCE WE'VE MET EXECUTIVES AT MICROSOFT AND HIGHMARK INSURANCE COMPANY WHO ARE DEAF.
MICROSOFT AND HIGHMARK INSURANCE COMPANY WHO ARE DEAF.
WALGREENS IS AN INCREDIBLE COMPANY WHO ARE DEAF.
WALGREENS IS AN INCREDIBLE EMPLOYER.
WALGREENS IS AN INCREDIBLE EMPLOYER.
HALF OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AT EMPLOYER.
HALF OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN SOUTH HALF OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND CONNECTICUT HAVE A DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND CONNECTICUT HAVE A RANGE OF DISABILITIES.
CAROLINA AND CONNECTICUT HAVE A RANGE OF DISABILITIES.
THAT'S WHY THE FOCUS HAS TO BE RANGE OF DISABILITIES.
THAT'S WHY THE FOCUS HAS TO BE ON THE ABILITY AND NOT THE THAT'S WHY THE FOCUS HAS TO BE ON THE ABILITY AND NOT THE DISABILITY.
ON THE ABILITY AND NOT THE DISABILITY.
PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT DISABILITY.
PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO OFFER, BUT SO OFTEN PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO OFFER, BUT SO OFTEN THESE FOLKS HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THINGS TO OFFER, BUT SO OFTEN THESE FOLKS HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN A SHOT, WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THESE FOLKS HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN A SHOT, WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
A SHOT, WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
>> Woodruff: BUT YOU'RE NOT THAT.
>> Woodruff: BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A STATE GOVERNMENT >> Woodruff: BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A STATE GOVERNMENT REQUIRING EMPLOYERS TO DO TALKING ABOUT A STATE GOVERNMENT REQUIRING EMPLOYERS TO DO SOMETHING, IS THAT RIGHT?
REQUIRING EMPLOYERS TO DO SOMETHING, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> NO.
SOMETHING, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> NO.
AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS IF YOU >> NO.
AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS IF YOU TALK TO THESE BUSINESSES, ONCE AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS IF YOU TALK TO THESE BUSINESSES, ONCE THEY GIVE SOME OF THESE FOLKS A TALK TO THESE BUSINESSES, ONCE THEY GIVE SOME OF THESE FOLKS A SHOT OF EMPLOYMENT THEY FIND OUT THEY GIVE SOME OF THESE FOLKS A SHOT OF EMPLOYMENT THEY FIND OUT IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF SHOT OF EMPLOYMENT THEY FIND OUT IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR OWN SHAREHOLDERS.
IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR OWN SHAREHOLDERS.
SO THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
THEIR OWN SHAREHOLDERS.
SO THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
WE BELIEVE WE AS STATES HAVE TO SO THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
WE BELIEVE WE AS STATES HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF WALKING THE WE BELIEVE WE AS STATES HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF WALKING THE WALK AND BEING A MODEL EMPLOYER DO A BETTER JOB OF WALKING THE WALK AND BEING A MODEL EMPLOYER OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, BUT WALK AND BEING A MODEL EMPLOYER OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, BUT BUSINESSES WILL CHOOSE TO DO IT.
OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, BUT BUSINESSES WILL CHOOSE TO DO IT.
WHEN THEY HAVE THE FACTS, BUSINESSES WILL CHOOSE TO DO IT.
WHEN THEY HAVE THE FACTS, BUSINESSES WILL CHOOSE TO DO IT WHEN THEY HAVE THE FACTS, BUSINESSES WILL CHOOSE TO DO IT FOR THEIR OWN APPROPRIATE BUSINESSES WILL CHOOSE TO DO IT FOR THEIR OWN APPROPRIATE REASONS, MAINLY WHAT'S IN THE FOR THEIR OWN APPROPRIATE REASONS, MAINLY WHAT'S IN THE INTEREST OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.
REASONS, MAINLY WHAT'S IN THE INTEREST OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.
THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO DO IS INTEREST OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.
THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PREPARING OUR YOUTH WITH WE HAVE TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PREPARING OUR YOUTH WITH DISABILITIES FOR A LIFETIME OF OF PREPARING OUR YOUTH WITH DISABILITIES FOR A LIFETIME OF EXPECTATION OF EMPLOYMENT AND DISABILITIES FOR A LIFETIME OF EXPECTATION OF EMPLOYMENT AND NOT FOR A LIFETIME OF EXPECTATION OF EMPLOYMENT AND NOT FOR A LIFETIME OF EXPECTATION OF BEING ON PUBLIC NOT FOR A LIFETIME OF EXPECTATION OF BEING ON PUBLIC BENEFIT.
EXPECTATION OF BEING ON PUBLIC BENEFIT.
>> Woodruff: THAT LEADS TO A BENEFIT.
>> Woodruff: THAT LEADS TO A QUESTION I WAS THINKING ABOUT >> Woodruff: THAT LEADS TO A QUESTION I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
QUESTION I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
IS WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING THAT.
IS WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH IS WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES IN THIS COUNTRY-- TO TAKE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES IN THIS COUNTRY-- AND, AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE DISABILITIES IN THIS COUNTRY-- AND, AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF THEM WHO ARE NOT AND, AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF THEM WHO ARE NOT WORKING-- TO HAVE SOMETHING MILLIONS OF THEM WHO ARE NOT WORKING-- TO HAVE SOMETHING CLOSE TO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WORKING-- TO HAVE SOMETHING CLOSE TO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ABLE-BODIED CLOSE TO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ABLE-BODIED HAVE TO WORK.
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ABLE-BODIED HAVE TO WORK.
>> WELL, PART OF IT IS WE HAVE TO WORK.
>> WELL, PART OF IT IS WE STATES, GOVERNORS, HAVE TO DO A >> WELL, PART OF IT IS WE STATES, GOVERNORS, HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF REALLY MAKING STATES, GOVERNORS, HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF REALLY MAKING DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT PART OF BETTER JOB OF REALLY MAKING DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT PART OF OUR OVERALL WORK FORCE DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT PART OF OUR OVERALL WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
OUR OVERALL WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
IT'S A CHANGE IN A CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
IT'S A CHANGE IN A CULTURAL MIND-SET AWAY FROM CHARITY AND IT'S A CHANGE IN A CULTURAL MIND-SET AWAY FROM CHARITY AND MORE TOWARD WHAT'S IN THE BEST MIND-SET AWAY FROM CHARITY AND MORE TOWARD WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BUSINESSES.
MORE TOWARD WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BUSINESSES.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
INTEREST OF THE BUSINESSES.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TOE DO A THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TOE DO A BETTER JOB OF TALKING TO NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TOE DO A BETTER JOB OF TALKING TO BUSINESSES, RECRUITING BETTER JOB OF TALKING TO BUSINESSES, RECRUITING BUSINESSES AND HAVING BUSINESSES BUSINESSES, RECRUITING BUSINESSES AND HAVING BUSINESSES HEAR FROM EACH OTHER.
BUSINESSES AND HAVING BUSINESSES HEAR FROM EACH OTHER.
I'M TELLING YOU THAT WHEN A HEAR FROM EACH OTHER.
I'M TELLING YOU THAT WHEN A C.E.O.
OF A COMPANY HEARS THE I'M TELLING YOU THAT WHEN A C.E.O.
OF A COMPANY HEARS THE C.E.O.
OF WALGREENS OR THE C.E.O.
OF A COMPANY HEARS THE C.E.O.
OF WALGREENS OR THE C.E.O.
OF LOWE'S OR OFFICE MAX C.E.O.
OF WALGREENS OR THE C.E.O.
OF LOWE'S OR OFFICE MAX OR U.P.S.
TALK ABOUT WHY C.E.O.
OF LOWE'S OR OFFICE MAX OR U.P.S.
TALK ABOUT WHY EMPLOYING PEOPLE WITH OR U.P.S.
TALK ABOUT WHY EMPLOYING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS RIGHT FOR THEIR EMPLOYING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS RIGHT FOR THEIR BUSINESS, THEY HEAR THAT.
DISABILITIES IS RIGHT FOR THEIR BUSINESS, THEY HEAR THAT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST BIG BUSINESS, THEY HEAR THAT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST BIG BUSINESSES, IT'S MEDIUM-SIZED AND IT'S NOT JUST BIG BUSINESSES, IT'S MEDIUM-SIZED BUSINESSES AS WELL.
BUSINESSES, IT'S MEDIUM-SIZED BUSINESSES AS WELL.
SO WE THINK THERE'S SEVERAL BUSINESSES AS WELL.
SO WE THINK THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.
SO WE THINK THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.
WE'VE ISSUED THIS BLUEPRINT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.
WE'VE ISSUED THIS BLUEPRINT TODAY THAT'S VERY PRACTICAL IN WE'VE ISSUED THIS BLUEPRINT TODAY THAT'S VERY PRACTICAL IN NATURE, VERY CONCRETE TODAY THAT'S VERY PRACTICAL IN NATURE, VERY CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS, BUT IT DOES START NATURE, VERY CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS, BUT IT DOES START AS WELL WITH SETTING SUGGESTIONS, BUT IT DOES START AS WELL WITH SETTING EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR YOUNG KIDS AS WELL WITH SETTING EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR YOUNG KIDS WITH DISABILITIES THAT THEY, IN EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR YOUNG KIDS WITH DISABILITIES THAT THEY, IN FACT, CAN WORK.
WITH DISABILITIES THAT THEY, IN FACT, CAN WORK.
THEY WILL WORK.
FACT, CAN WORK.
THEY WILL WORK.
WE BELIEVE IN THEM, THEY'LL THEY WILL WORK.
WE BELIEVE IN THEM, THEY'LL BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES AND WE WE BELIEVE IN THEM, THEY'LL BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE FOR THEM.
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE FOR THEM.
>> Woodruff: GOVERNOR JACK FOR THEM.
>> Woodruff: GOVERNOR JACK MARKELL OF DELAWARE, THANK YOU >> Woodruff: GOVERNOR JACK MARKELL OF DELAWARE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MARKELL OF DELAWARE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANKS, JUDY.
VERY MUCH.
>> THANKS, JUDY.
>> Woodruff: NEXT WEEK I'LL >> THANKS, JUDY.
>> Woodruff: NEXT WEEK I'LL TALK ABOUT A REPORT THAT SHOWS >> Woodruff: NEXT WEEK I'LL TALK ABOUT A REPORT THAT SHOWS MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL LIVE IN TALK ABOUT A REPORT THAT SHOWS MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL LIVE IN INSTITUTIONS WHEN THE LAW CALL MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL LIVE IN INSTITUTIONS WHEN THE LAW CALL FOR THEM TO BE MOVING INTO A INSTITUTIONS WHEN THE LAW CALL FOR THEM TO BE MOVING INTO A HOME OR COMMUNITY CARE.
FOR THEM TO BE MOVING INTO A HOME OR COMMUNITY CARE.
>> Brown: THE U.S. STATE HOME OR COMMUNITY CARE.
>> Brown: THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL >> Brown: THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL TRAVEL ALERT TODAY, CITING A DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL TRAVEL ALERT TODAY, CITING A THREAT FROM AL QAEDA.
TRAVEL ALERT TODAY, CITING A THREAT FROM AL QAEDA.
THE STATEMENT PARTICULARLY THREAT FROM AL QAEDA.
THE STATEMENT PARTICULARLY WARNED AMERICAN CITIZENS IN THE THE STATEMENT PARTICULARLY WARNED AMERICAN CITIZENS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA.
WARNED AMERICAN CITIZENS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA.
IT SAID AL QAEDA "MAY FOCUS MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA.
IT SAID AL QAEDA "MAY FOCUS EFFORTS TO CONDUCT ATTACKS IN IT SAID AL QAEDA "MAY FOCUS EFFORTS TO CONDUCT ATTACKS IN THE PERIOD BETWEEN NOW AND THE EFFORTS TO CONDUCT ATTACKS IN THE PERIOD BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF AUGUST."
THE PERIOD BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF AUGUST."
EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES WILL END OF AUGUST."
EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES WILL CLOSE 21 EMBASSIES AND EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES WILL CLOSE 21 EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES WILL BE CLOSED THIS CLOSE 21 EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES WILL BE CLOSED THIS WEEKEND IN MOSTLY MUSLIM CONSULATES WILL BE CLOSED THIS WEEKEND IN MOSTLY MUSLIM NATIONS, STRETCHING FROM WEST WEEKEND IN MOSTLY MUSLIM NATIONS, STRETCHING FROM WEST AFRICATO B ANGLADESH, AS A NATIONS, STRETCHING FROM WEST AFRICATO B ANGLADESH, AS A RESULT OF THE INCREASED THREAT.
AFRICATO B ANGLADESH, AS A RESULT OF THE INCREASED THREAT.
MARGARET WARNER HAS BEEN RESULT OF THE INCREASED THREAT.
MARGARET WARNER HAS BEEN REPORTING ON THIS ALL DAY AND MARGARET WARNER HAS BEEN REPORTING ON THIS ALL DAY AND JOINS ME NOW.
REPORTING ON THIS ALL DAY AND JOINS ME NOW.
WELCOME, MARGARET.
JOINS ME NOW.
WELCOME, MARGARET.
WHAT HAVE DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW WELCOME, MARGARET.
WHAT HAVE DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW SPECIFIC THE THREAT IS?
WHAT HAVE DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW SPECIFIC THE THREAT IS?
>> FIRST WE HAVE TO START TO SAY SPECIFIC THE THREAT IS?
>> FIRST WE HAVE TO START TO SAY THAT THOSE WHO REALLY KNOW >> FIRST WE HAVE TO START TO SAY THAT THOSE WHO REALLY KNOW AREN'T TALKING IN DETAIL AND A THAT THOSE WHO REALLY KNOW AREN'T TALKING IN DETAIL AND A LOT OF THOSE TALKING AND AREN'T TALKING IN DETAIL AND A LOT OF THOSE TALKING AND SPECULATING DON'T KNOW.
LOT OF THOSE TALKING AND SPECULATING DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SPECULATING DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CREDIBLE -- AN INCREASE BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CREDIBLE -- AN INCREASE IN CREDIBLE WHAT'S CALLED LOT OF CREDIBLE -- AN INCREASE IN CREDIBLE WHAT'S CALLED "CHATTER" OVER THE LAST WEEK TO IN CREDIBLE WHAT'S CALLED "CHATTER" OVER THE LAST WEEK TO TWO WEEKS.
"CHATTER" OVER THE LAST WEEK TO TWO WEEKS.
PERHAPS BOLSTERED BY SOMETHING TWO WEEKS.
PERHAPS BOLSTERED BY SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC THIS WEEK.
PERHAPS BOLSTERED BY SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC THIS WEEK.
WE DO KNOW IT WAS FAIRLY VERY SPECIFIC THIS WEEK.
WE DO KNOW IT WAS FAIRLY SPECIFIC AS TO TIMING, THAT WE DO KNOW IT WAS FAIRLY SPECIFIC AS TO TIMING, THAT SOMETHING BIG IS IN THE WORKS AT SPECIFIC AS TO TIMING, THAT SOMETHING BIG IS IN THE WORKS AT THIS TIME PERIOD FROM NOW UNTIL SOMETHING BIG IS IN THE WORKS AT THIS TIME PERIOD FROM NOW UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK WHERE THE THIS TIME PERIOD FROM NOW UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK WHERE THE EMBASSIES ARE CLOSED AND THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK WHERE THE EMBASSIES ARE CLOSED AND THROUGH THE REST OF THE MONTH EMBASSIES ARE CLOSED AND THROUGH THE REST OF THE MONTH POTENTIALLY.
THE REST OF THE MONTH POTENTIALLY.
WHAT IS NOT KNOWN, APPARENTLY, POTENTIALLY.
WHAT IS NOT KNOWN, APPARENTLY, IS LOCATION OR TARGETS.
WHAT IS NOT KNOWN, APPARENTLY, IS LOCATION OR TARGETS.
NOT LOCATION GEOGRAPHIC IS LOCATION OR TARGETS.
NOT LOCATION GEOGRAPHIC NECESSARILY OR TARGETS, BUT THE NOT LOCATION GEOGRAPHIC NECESSARILY OR TARGETS, BUT THE THREAT DOES COME FROM OR NECESSARILY OR TARGETS, BUT THE THREAT DOES COME FROM OR CONNECTED TO THE RADICAL THREAT DOES COME FROM OR CONNECTED TO THE RADICAL ORGANIZATION, THE JIHADI CONNECTED TO THE RADICAL ORGANIZATION, THE JIHADI ORGANIZATION HEADQUARTERED IN ORGANIZATION, THE JIHADI ORGANIZATION HEADQUARTERED IN YEMEN, AL QAEDA IN THE ARABIAN ORGANIZATION HEADQUARTERED IN YEMEN, AL QAEDA IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA WHICH AS YOU WILL YEMEN, AL QAEDA IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA WHICH AS YOU WILL RECALL WAS BEHIND THE CHRISTMAS PENINSULA WHICH AS YOU WILL RECALL WAS BEHIND THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER OF 2009, ALSO THE RECALL WAS BEHIND THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER OF 2009, ALSO THE PLOT TO SEND EXPLOSIVES THROUGH DAY BOMBER OF 2009, ALSO THE PLOT TO SEND EXPLOSIVES THROUGH THE AIR IN 2010.
PLOT TO SEND EXPLOSIVES THROUGH THE AIR IN 2010.
>> Brown: SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN THE AIR IN 2010.
>> Brown: SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE EMBASSIES AND TRAVELERS >> Brown: SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE EMBASSIES AND TRAVELERS RIGHT NOW?
FOR THE EMBASSIES AND TRAVELERS RIGHT NOW?
>> JEFF, FOR EMBASSIES, THEY'RE RIGHT NOW?
>> JEFF, FOR EMBASSIES, THEY'RE NOT SENDING PERSONNEL HOME BUT >> JEFF, FOR EMBASSIES, THEY'RE NOT SENDING PERSONNEL HOME BUT IT MEANS THAT SUNDAY-- WHICH NOT SENDING PERSONNEL HOME BUT IT MEANS THAT SUNDAY-- WHICH WOULD BE THE START OF THE WORK IT MEANS THAT SUNDAY-- WHICH WOULD BE THE START OF THE WORK WEEK IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, THEY WOULD BE THE START OF THE WORK WEEK IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, THEY WILL BE CLOSED.
WEEK IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, THEY WILL BE CLOSED.
LOW CAL STAFF WILL COME IN.
WILL BE CLOSED.
LOW CAL STAFF WILL COME IN.
NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL LOW CAL STAFF WILL COME IN.
NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL COME IN.
NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL COME IN.
NOBODY NEEDING A VISA OR WANTING COME IN.
NOBODY NEEDING A VISA OR WANTING TO SEE THE CANNES ALREADY A NOBODY NEEDING A VISA OR WANTING TO SEE THE CANNES ALREADY A SECTION.
TO SEE THE CANNES ALREADY A SECTION.
IN MANY AREAS MANY OF THE STAFF SECTION.
IN MANY AREAS MANY OF THE STAFF INSIDE THE COMPOUNDS WON'T COME IN MANY AREAS MANY OF THE STAFF INSIDE THE COMPOUNDS WON'T COME OUT.
INSIDE THE COMPOUNDS WON'T COME OUT.
BUT THESE COMPOUNDS ARE HEAVILY OUT.
BUT THESE COMPOUNDS ARE HEAVILY FORTIFIED AND MANY PEOPLE LIVE BUT THESE COMPOUNDS ARE HEAVILY FORTIFIED AND MANY PEOPLE LIVE ON -- THEY'RE LIKE A BASE.
FORTIFIED AND MANY PEOPLE LIVE ON -- THEY'RE LIKE A BASE.
AND THOSE PEOPLE MAY GO TO WORK.
ON -- THEY'RE LIKE A BASE.
AND THOSE PEOPLE MAY GO TO WORK.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR TRAVELERS-- AND THOSE PEOPLE MAY GO TO WORK.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR TRAVELERS-- AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A WORLDWIDE WHAT IT MEANS FOR TRAVELERS-- AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A WORLDWIDE TRAVEL BAN-- BUT WHAT'S CURIOUS AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A WORLDWIDE TRAVEL BAN-- BUT WHAT'S CURIOUS OR INTERESTING TO ME IN THIS TRAVEL BAN-- BUT WHAT'S CURIOUS OR INTERESTING TO ME IN THIS TRAVEL ALERT IS THE FOCUS ON OR INTERESTING TO ME IN THIS TRAVEL ALERT IS THE FOCUS ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS.
TRAVEL ALERT IS THE FOCUS ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS.
TO AVOID PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS.
TO AVOID PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, TO REMEMBER THAT TERRORISTS ARE TO AVOID PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, TO REMEMBER THAT TERRORISTS ARE GOOD AT ATTACKING SUBWAYS AND TO REMEMBER THAT TERRORISTS ARE GOOD AT ATTACKING SUBWAYS AND TRAINS AND AIRPLANES.
GOOD AT ATTACKING SUBWAYS AND TRAINS AND AIRPLANES.
THAT FOCUS IS WORTH TRAVELERS TRAINS AND AIRPLANES.
THAT FOCUS IS WORTH TRAVELERS TAKING NOTE.
THAT FOCUS IS WORTH TRAVELERS TAKING NOTE.
>> Brown: I WANT TO PULL THAT TAKING NOTE.
>> Brown: I WANT TO PULL THAT MAP BACK UP BECAUSE IT'S NOTABLE >> Brown: I WANT TO PULL THAT MAP BACK UP BECAUSE IT'S NOTABLE WHAT A LARGE AREA THIS IS.
MAP BACK UP BECAUSE IT'S NOTABLE WHAT A LARGE AREA THIS IS.
HOW UNUSUAL IS THAT AND WHY SUCH WHAT A LARGE AREA THIS IS.
HOW UNUSUAL IS THAT AND WHY SUCH A LARGE STRETCH?
HOW UNUSUAL IS THAT AND WHY SUCH A LARGE STRETCH?
>> WELL, THE STATE DEPARTMENT A LARGE STRETCH?
>> WELL, THE STATE DEPARTMENT CANNOT THINK OF A PRECEDENT FOR >> WELL, THE STATE DEPARTMENT CANNOT THINK OF A PRECEDENT FOR THIS.
CANNOT THINK OF A PRECEDENT FOR THIS.
I CAN'T SAY IT'S UNPRECEDENTED, THIS.
I CAN'T SAY IT'S UNPRECEDENTED, BUT THEY CAN'T THINK OF ONE.
I CAN'T SAY IT'S UNPRECEDENTED, BUT THEY CAN'T THINK OF ONE.
THIS REFLECTS NOT ONLY AN BUT THEY CAN'T THINK OF ONE.
THIS REFLECTS NOT ONLY AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WHICH IS THIS REFLECTS NOT ONLY AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS, ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT IN THE WHAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS DURING THIS BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS DURING THIS TURMOIL OF THE ARAB SPRING A LOT LAST TWO YEARS DURING THIS TURMOIL OF THE ARAB SPRING A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT AL QAEDA TURMOIL OF THE ARAB SPRING A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT AL QAEDA WANNABES OR LINKED AFFILIATES-- OF THESE DIFFERENT AL QAEDA WANNABES OR LINKED AFFILIATES-- THAT'S AL QAEDA IN THE ARABIAN WANNABES OR LINKED AFFILIATES-- THAT'S AL QAEDA IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA BUT ALSO AL QAEDA IN THAT'S AL QAEDA IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA BUT ALSO AL QAEDA IN NORTHERN AFRICA OR.
PENINSULA BUT ALSO AL QAEDA IN NORTHERN AFRICA OR.
AQ.I.M.-- AND ALSO A NEWLY NORTHERN AFRICA OR.
AQ.I.M.-- AND ALSO A NEWLY RESURGENT AL QAEDA ORGANIZATION AQ.I.M.-- AND ALSO A NEWLY RESURGENT AL QAEDA ORGANIZATION FROM IRAQ WHICH IS NOW FIGHTING RESURGENT AL QAEDA ORGANIZATION FROM IRAQ WHICH IS NOW FIGHTING IN SYRIA THAT THEY ARE ALL FROM IRAQ WHICH IS NOW FIGHTING IN SYRIA THAT THEY ARE ALL RESURGENT.
IN SYRIA THAT THEY ARE ALL RESURGENT.
THEY HAVE ALL TAKEN MORE RESURGENT.
THEY HAVE ALL TAKEN MORE TERRITORY, THE REGION'S AWASH IN THEY HAVE ALL TAKEN MORE TERRITORY, THE REGION'S AWASH IN WEAPONS AND THAT THERE'S A LOT TERRITORY, THE REGION'S AWASH IN WEAPONS AND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INTERCONNECTION, MORE THAN WEAPONS AND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INTERCONNECTION, MORE THAN THEIR THERE USED TO BE, AMONG OF INTERCONNECTION, MORE THAN THEIR THERE USED TO BE, AMONG THEM.
THEIR THERE USED TO BE, AMONG THEM.
FURTHER MORE, YOU HAD PRISON THEM.
FURTHER MORE, YOU HAD PRISON BREAKS IN BOTH IRAQ AND LIBYA FURTHER MORE, YOU HAD PRISON BREAKS IN BOTH IRAQ AND LIBYA WHICH HAVE RELEASED ALL THESE BREAKS IN BOTH IRAQ AND LIBYA WHICH HAVE RELEASED ALL THESE OTHER HARDENED FIGHTERS AND WHICH HAVE RELEASED ALL THESE OTHER HARDENED FIGHTERS AND YOU'VE GOT FOREIGN TPAOEUGERS OTHER HARDENED FIGHTERS AND YOU'VE GOT FOREIGN TPAOEUGERS POURING INTO PLACES LIKE SYRIA YOU'VE GOT FOREIGN TPAOEUGERS POURING INTO PLACES LIKE SYRIA AND IRAQ AND ALSO THE ARABIAN POURING INTO PLACES LIKE SYRIA AND IRAQ AND ALSO THE ARABIAN PENINSULA.
AND IRAQ AND ALSO THE ARABIAN PENINSULA.
SO BOTTOM LINE IS U.S. PENINSULA.
SO BOTTOM LINE IS U.S. INTELLIGENCE DOESN'T THINK SO BOTTOM LINE IS U.S. INTELLIGENCE DOESN'T THINK THEY'RE ALL BEING DIRECTED BY INTELLIGENCE DOESN'T THINK THEY'RE ALL BEING DIRECTED BY SOME MASTER PLOTTER AL QAEDA THEY'RE ALL BEING DIRECTED BY SOME MASTER PLOTTER AL QAEDA CORE BUT THERE IS A BELIEF THAT SOME MASTER PLOTTER AL QAEDA CORE BUT THERE IS A BELIEF THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER THE NEAT CORE BUT THERE IS A BELIEF THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER THE NEAT LITTLE SEPARATE FRANCHISES THEY THEY'RE NO LONGER THE NEAT LITTLE SEPARATE FRANCHISES THEY WERE ONCE THOUGHT TO BE.
LITTLE SEPARATE FRANCHISES THEY WERE ONCE THOUGHT TO BE.
>> Brown: AND WATCHING A VERY WERE ONCE THOUGHT TO BE.
>> Brown: AND WATCHING A VERY WIDE AREA.
>> Brown: AND WATCHING A VERY WIDE AREA.
MARGARET WARNER, THANKS SO MUCH.
>> Woodruff: NEXT, A LOOK AT THE DEBATE OVER EXPORTING COAL THROUGH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.
DEBATE OVER EXPORTING COAL THROUGH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.
THE LATEST FIGURES FROM THE THROUGH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.
THE LATEST FIGURES FROM THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AGENCY SHOW THE LATEST FIGURES FROM THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AGENCY SHOW A RECORD-BREAKING GLOBAL INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AGENCY SHOW A RECORD-BREAKING GLOBAL INCREASE IN C.O.-2 EMISSIONS A RECORD-BREAKING GLOBAL INCREASE IN C.O.-2 EMISSIONS LAST YEAR.
INCREASE IN C.O.-2 EMISSIONS LAST YEAR.
COAL ACCOUNTED FOR 44% OF THE LAST YEAR.
COAL ACCOUNTED FOR 44% OF THE RISE.
COAL ACCOUNTED FOR 44% OF THE RISE.
BUT IN THE UNITED STATES, DEMAND RISE.
BUT IN THE UNITED STATES, DEMAND FOR COAL IS DROPPING.
BUT IN THE UNITED STATES, DEMAND FOR COAL IS DROPPING.
AS A RESULT, AMERICAN COMPANIES FOR COAL IS DROPPING.
AS A RESULT, AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE LOOKING TO SEND MORE ABROAD.
AS A RESULT, AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE LOOKING TO SEND MORE ABROAD.
KATIE CAMPBELL FROM OUR SEATTLE ARE LOOKING TO SEND MORE ABROAD.
KATIE CAMPBELL FROM OUR SEATTLE AFFILIATE KCTS 9 HAS THE STORY.
KATIE CAMPBELL FROM OUR SEATTLE AFFILIATE KCTS 9 HAS THE STORY.
SHE'S AN EARTHFIX REPORTER AFFILIATE KCTS 9 HAS THE STORY.
SHE'S AN EARTHFIX REPORTER >> Reporter: IT'S THE HEART OF SHE'S AN EARTHFIX REPORTER >> Reporter: IT'S THE HEART OF THE CRAB FISHING SEASON IN THE >> Reporter: IT'S THE HEART OF THE CRAB FISHING SEASON IN THE SALISH SEA.
THE CRAB FISHING SEASON IN THE SALISH SEA.
THIS NETWORK OF COASTAL SALISH SEA.
THIS NETWORK OF COASTAL WATERWAYS EXTENDS BOND EYTHE THIS NETWORK OF COASTAL WATERWAYS EXTENDS BOND EYTHE BORDER OF WASHINGTON STATE INTO WATERWAYS EXTENDS BOND EYTHE BORDER OF WASHINGTON STATE INTO BRITISH COLUMBIA.
BORDER OF WASHINGTON STATE INTO BRITISH COLUMBIA.
IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST AND MOST BRITISH COLUMBIA.
IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST AND MOST BIOLOGICALLY RICH INLAND SEAS IN IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST AND MOST BIOLOGICALLY RICH INLAND SEAS IN THE WORLD.
BIOLOGICALLY RICH INLAND SEAS IN THE WORLD.
JEREMIAH JULIUS IS A FISHERMAN THE WORLD.
JEREMIAH JULIUS IS A FISHERMAN FROM THE LUMMI TRIBAL COMMUNITY.
JEREMIAH JULIUS IS A FISHERMAN FROM THE LUMMI TRIBAL COMMUNITY.
THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE IS SACRED TO FROM THE LUMMI TRIBAL COMMUNITY.
THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE IS SACRED TO US.
THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE IS SACRED TO US.
THERE'S NOT MUCH CONTAMINANT US.
THERE'S NOT MUCH CONTAMINANT FREE LANDS LEFT IN THE UNITED THERE'S NOT MUCH CONTAMINANT FREE LANDS LEFT IN THE UNITED STATES.
FREE LANDS LEFT IN THE UNITED STATES.
THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
STATES.
THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
>> Reporter: FOR HUNDREDS OF THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
>> Reporter: FOR HUNDREDS OF GENERATIONS, HIS TRIBE HAS >> Reporter: FOR HUNDREDS OF GENERATIONS, HIS TRIBE HAS RELIED ON THE HALIBUT, SALMON GENERATIONS, HIS TRIBE HAS RELIED ON THE HALIBUT, SALMON AND CRAB THAT THRIVE IN THESE RELIED ON THE HALIBUT, SALMON AND CRAB THAT THRIVE IN THESE WATERS.
AND CRAB THAT THRIVE IN THESE WATERS.
>> FISHING IS WHO WE ARE.
WATERS.
>> FISHING IS WHO WE ARE.
FISHING IS OUR CULTURE.
>> FISHING IS WHO WE ARE.
FISHING IS OUR CULTURE.
AND TO US, CULTURE IS FISH.
FISHING IS OUR CULTURE.
AND TO US, CULTURE IS FISH.
IT'S JUST IN OUR BLOOD.
AND TO US, CULTURE IS FISH.
IT'S JUST IN OUR BLOOD.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE'S A STORM IT'S JUST IN OUR BLOOD.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE'S A STORM BREWING AT CHERRY POINT, JUST >> Reporter: BUT THERE'S A STORM BREWING AT CHERRY POINT, JUST NORTH OF BELLINGHAM, WASHINGTON.
BREWING AT CHERRY POINT, JUST NORTH OF BELLINGHAM, WASHINGTON.
THIS IS WHERE S.S.A.
MARINE NORTH OF BELLINGHAM, WASHINGTON.
THIS IS WHERE S.S.A.
MARINE WANTS TO BUILD THE LARGEST COAL THIS IS WHERE S.S.A.
MARINE WANTS TO BUILD THE LARGEST COAL EXPORT TERMINAL IN NORTH WANTS TO BUILD THE LARGEST COAL EXPORT TERMINAL IN NORTH AMERICA.
EXPORT TERMINAL IN NORTH AMERICA.
NEARLY 500 SHIPS WOULD TRAVEL AMERICA.
NEARLY 500 SHIPS WOULD TRAVEL THESE WATERS EVERY YEAR, NEARLY 500 SHIPS WOULD TRAVEL THESE WATERS EVERY YEAR, CARRYING COAL TO THE OTHER SIDE THESE WATERS EVERY YEAR, CARRYING COAL TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PACIFIC.
CARRYING COAL TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PACIFIC.
ASIA CONSUMES MORE COAL THAN OF THE PACIFIC.
ASIA CONSUMES MORE COAL THAN REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED.
ASIA CONSUMES MORE COAL THAN REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED.
IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED.
IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, COUNTRIES THERE ARE EXPECTED TO IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, COUNTRIES THERE ARE EXPECTED TO DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF COAL THEY COUNTRIES THERE ARE EXPECTED TO DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF COAL THEY IMPORT TODAY.
DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF COAL THEY IMPORT TODAY.
THAT SOARING DEMAND SPELLS IMPORT TODAY.
THAT SOARING DEMAND SPELLS OPPORTUNITY FOR U.S. COMPANIES, THAT SOARING DEMAND SPELLS OPPORTUNITY FOR U.S. COMPANIES, ACCORDING TO BOB WATERS, OPPORTUNITY FOR U.S. COMPANIES, ACCORDING TO BOB WATERS, DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ACCORDING TO BOB WATERS, DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FOR S.S.A.
MARINE.
DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FOR S.S.A.
MARINE.
OUR PARTICULAR PROJECT, GATEWAY FOR S.S.A.
MARINE.
OUR PARTICULAR PROJECT, GATEWAY PACIFIC TERMINALS, WHEN BUILT OUR PARTICULAR PROJECT, GATEWAY PACIFIC TERMINALS, WHEN BUILT AND FULLY OPERATIONAL AT FULL PACIFIC TERMINALS, WHEN BUILT AND FULLY OPERATIONAL AT FULL CAPACITY, WOULD GENERATE AND FULLY OPERATIONAL AT FULL CAPACITY, WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $5.5 BILLION IN CAPACITY, WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $5.5 BILLION IN FOREIGN MONIES INFUSED BACK INTO APPROXIMATELY $5.5 BILLION IN FOREIGN MONIES INFUSED BACK INTO THE U.S. ECONOMY.
FOREIGN MONIES INFUSED BACK INTO THE U.S. ECONOMY.
>> Reporter: THIS POSSIBILITY THE U.S. ECONOMY.
>> Reporter: THIS POSSIBILITY HAS PLACED THE NORTHWEST IN THE >> Reporter: THIS POSSIBILITY HAS PLACED THE NORTHWEST IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONTROVERSIAL HAS PLACED THE NORTHWEST IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONTROVERSIAL DEBATE: SHOULD THE REGION BUILD MIDDLE OF A CONTROVERSIAL DEBATE: SHOULD THE REGION BUILD EXPORT TERMINALS THAT WOULD OPEN DEBATE: SHOULD THE REGION BUILD EXPORT TERMINALS THAT WOULD OPEN LUCRATIVE MARKETS FOR THE EXPORT TERMINALS THAT WOULD OPEN LUCRATIVE MARKETS FOR THE WORLD'S DIRTIEST FOSSIL FUEL?
LUCRATIVE MARKETS FOR THE WORLD'S DIRTIEST FOSSIL FUEL?
AS THE NATION'S ECONOMY WORLD'S DIRTIEST FOSSIL FUEL?
AS THE NATION'S ECONOMY CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE, CAN THE AS THE NATION'S ECONOMY CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE, CAN THE COUNTRY AFFORD NOT TO?
CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE, CAN THE COUNTRY AFFORD NOT TO?
GILLETTE, WYOMING LIES IN THE COUNTRY AFFORD NOT TO?
GILLETTE, WYOMING LIES IN THE HEART OF THE NATIONS LARGEST GILLETTE, WYOMING LIES IN THE HEART OF THE NATIONS LARGEST COAL MINING REGION.
HEART OF THE NATIONS LARGEST COAL MINING REGION.
ONE OUT OF EVERY SIX PEOPLE HERE COAL MINING REGION.
ONE OUT OF EVERY SIX PEOPLE HERE WORKS FOR THE COAL INDUSTRY.
ONE OUT OF EVERY SIX PEOPLE HERE WORKS FOR THE COAL INDUSTRY.
PEOPLE LIKE PHIL DILLINGER.
WORKS FOR THE COAL INDUSTRY.
PEOPLE LIKE PHIL DILLINGER.
MINING HAS PROVIDED A STEADY PEOPLE LIKE PHIL DILLINGER.
MINING HAS PROVIDED A STEADY SALARY TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY AND MINING HAS PROVIDED A STEADY SALARY TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY AND SEND HIS FOUR CHILDREN TO SALARY TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY AND SEND HIS FOUR CHILDREN TO COLLEGE.
SEND HIS FOUR CHILDREN TO COLLEGE.
>> IT'S THAT STABILITY OF COLLEGE.
>> IT'S THAT STABILITY OF KNOWING THAT EVERY TWO WEEKS I'M >> IT'S THAT STABILITY OF KNOWING THAT EVERY TWO WEEKS I'M GOING TO GET A PAYCHECK.
KNOWING THAT EVERY TWO WEEKS I'M GOING TO GET A PAYCHECK.
AND THAT'S... THAT'S A HUGE, GOING TO GET A PAYCHECK.
AND THAT'S... THAT'S A HUGE, HUGE THING.
AND THAT'S... THAT'S A HUGE, HUGE THING.
>> Reporter: DILLINGER'S JOB IS HUGE THING.
>> Reporter: DILLINGER'S JOB IS LOADING COAL INTO TRAINS.
>> Reporter: DILLINGER'S JOB IS LOADING COAL INTO TRAINS.
>> SO OUR JOB IS BY THE TIME LOADING COAL INTO TRAINS.
>> SO OUR JOB IS BY THE TIME IT'S DUMPED INTO THAT COAL >> SO OUR JOB IS BY THE TIME IT'S DUMPED INTO THAT COAL HOPPER ALL THE WAY TO THE TIME IT'S DUMPED INTO THAT COAL HOPPER ALL THE WAY TO THE TIME WHEN WE LOAD IT ONTO THE TRAINS.
HOPPER ALL THE WAY TO THE TIME WHEN WE LOAD IT ONTO THE TRAINS.
THAT'S COAL PROCESSING.
WHEN WE LOAD IT ONTO THE TRAINS.
THAT'S COAL PROCESSING.
THAT'S WHAT I DO.
THAT'S COAL PROCESSING.
THAT'S WHAT I DO.
ON AN AVERAGE, IT TAKES A MINUTE THAT'S WHAT I DO.
ON AN AVERAGE, IT TAKES A MINUTE TO A LESS THAN A MINUTE TO FILL ON AN AVERAGE, IT TAKES A MINUTE TO A LESS THAN A MINUTE TO FILL UP ONE CAR.
TO A LESS THAN A MINUTE TO FILL UP ONE CAR.
ONE TRAIN CAR OF COAL.
UP ONE CAR.
ONE TRAIN CAR OF COAL.
>> Reporter: THE UNITED STATES ONE TRAIN CAR OF COAL.
>> Reporter: THE UNITED STATES RELIES ON COAL TO PROVIDE ABOUT >> Reporter: THE UNITED STATES RELIES ON COAL TO PROVIDE ABOUT 40% OF THE NATION'S ENERGY.
RELIES ON COAL TO PROVIDE ABOUT 40% OF THE NATION'S ENERGY.
BUT IN RECENT YEARS, U.S. 40% OF THE NATION'S ENERGY.
BUT IN RECENT YEARS, U.S. UTILITIES HAVE BEEN SWITCHING BUT IN RECENT YEARS, U.S. UTILITIES HAVE BEEN SWITCHING FROM BURNING COAL TO BURNING UTILITIES HAVE BEEN SWITCHING FROM BURNING COAL TO BURNING NATURAL GAS.
FROM BURNING COAL TO BURNING NATURAL GAS.
THAT TREND HAS PUSHED U.S. COAL NATURAL GAS.
THAT TREND HAS PUSHED U.S. COAL COMPANIES TO SEARCH CUSTOMERS IN THAT TREND HAS PUSHED U.S. COAL COMPANIES TO SEARCH CUSTOMERS IN ASIA.
COMPANIES TO SEARCH CUSTOMERS IN ASIA.
THE MOST DIRECT PATH WOULD BE TO ASIA.
THE MOST DIRECT PATH WOULD BE TO SEND COAL TRAS THINROUGH THE THE MOST DIRECT PATH WOULD BE TO SEND COAL TRAS THINROUGH THE RIVER VALLEYS OF THE NORTHWEST SEND COAL TRAS THINROUGH THE RIVER VALLEYS OF THE NORTHWEST TO ITS DEEP-WATER PORTS, WHERE RIVER VALLEYS OF THE NORTHWEST TO ITS DEEP-WATER PORTS, WHERE SHIPS CAN COMPLETE DELIVERY TO TO ITS DEEP-WATER PORTS, WHERE SHIPS CAN COMPLETE DELIVERY TO ACROSS THE PACIFIC.
SHIPS CAN COMPLETE DELIVERY TO ACROSS THE PACIFIC.
THE ONLY OBSTACLE IS THE LACK OF ACROSS THE PACIFIC.
THE ONLY OBSTACLE IS THE LACK OF ADEQUATE COAL EXPORT FACILITIES.
THE ONLY OBSTACLE IS THE LACK OF ADEQUATE COAL EXPORT FACILITIES.
CHERRY POINT IS ONE OF A HANDFUL ADEQUATE COAL EXPORT FACILITIES.
CHERRY POINT IS ONE OF A HANDFUL OF PLACES IN WASHINGTON AND CHERRY POINT IS ONE OF A HANDFUL OF PLACES IN WASHINGTON AND OREGON CONSIDERING BUILDING COAL OF PLACES IN WASHINGTON AND OREGON CONSIDERING BUILDING COAL EXPORT TERMINALS.
OREGON CONSIDERING BUILDING COAL EXPORT TERMINALS.
THESE FACILITIES WOULD ALLOW EXPORT TERMINALS.
THESE FACILITIES WOULD ALLOW U.S. COAL COMPANIES TO SHIP UP THESE FACILITIES WOULD ALLOW U.S. COAL COMPANIES TO SHIP UP TO 100 MILLION TONS OF COAL U.S. COAL COMPANIES TO SHIP UP TO 100 MILLION TONS OF COAL EVERY YEAR.
TO 100 MILLION TONS OF COAL EVERY YEAR.
IF THESE TERMINALS ARE BUILT, EVERY YEAR.
IF THESE TERMINALS ARE BUILT, COMMUNITIES ALONG THE RAILROAD IF THESE TERMINALS ARE BUILT, COMMUNITIES ALONG THE RAILROAD COULD SEE BETWEEN 18 AND 37 COMMUNITIES ALONG THE RAILROAD COULD SEE BETWEEN 18 AND 37 ADDITIONAL COAL TRAINS A DAY.
COULD SEE BETWEEN 18 AND 37 ADDITIONAL COAL TRAINS A DAY.
AND EACH COAL TRAIN CAN STRETCH ADDITIONAL COAL TRAINS A DAY.
AND EACH COAL TRAIN CAN STRETCH A MILE AND A HALF LONG.
AND EACH COAL TRAIN CAN STRETCH A MILE AND A HALF LONG.
SOME SCIENTISTS AND PHYSICIANS A MILE AND A HALF LONG.
SOME SCIENTISTS AND PHYSICIANS WORRY THAT THESE TRAINS WILL SOME SCIENTISTS AND PHYSICIANS WORRY THAT THESE TRAINS WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE WORRY THAT THESE TRAINS WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE AIR QUALITY AROUND THEM.
HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE AIR QUALITY AROUND THEM.
PROFESSOR DAN JAFFE IS A LEADIN.
AIR QUALITY AROUND THEM.
PROFESSOR DAN JAFFE IS A LEADIN.
HE'S BEGUN TO TAKE A CLOSER PROFESSOR DAN JAFFE IS A LEADIN.
HE'S BEGUN TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK.
HE'S BEGUN TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK.
>> WE STOOD ON THE BRIDGE OVER LOOK.
>> WE STOOD ON THE BRIDGE OVER THE TRACKS AT RICHMOND BEACH AND >> WE STOOD ON THE BRIDGE OVER THE TRACKS AT RICHMOND BEACH AND WATCHED A COUPLE DOZEN TRAINS THE TRACKS AT RICHMOND BEACH AND WATCHED A COUPLE DOZEN TRAINS GOING BY AND WE MEASURED WATCHED A COUPLE DOZEN TRAINS GOING BY AND WE MEASURED PARTICULATE MATTER GOING BY AND WE MEASURED PARTICULATE MATTER CONCENTRATIONS THAT WERE WELL PARTICULATE MATTER CONCENTRATIONS THAT WERE WELL ABOVE THE HEALTH THRESHOLDS.
CONCENTRATIONS THAT WERE WELL ABOVE THE HEALTH THRESHOLDS.
THE DATA WE HAVE COLLECTED ON ABOVE THE HEALTH THRESHOLDS.
THE DATA WE HAVE COLLECTED ON DIESEL AND COAL EXHAUST ON THE DATA WE HAVE COLLECTED ON DIESEL AND COAL EXHAUST ON TRAINS IS VERY PRELIMINARY.
DIESEL AND COAL EXHAUST ON TRAINS IS VERY PRELIMINARY.
I'D BE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE A TRAINS IS VERY PRELIMINARY.
I'D BE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE A POLICY DECISION GO FORWARD I'D BE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE A POLICY DECISION GO FORWARD WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION ON THE POLICY DECISION GO FORWARD WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION ON THE AIR POLLUTION IMPACTS.
WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION ON THE AIR POLLUTION IMPACTS.
>> Reporter: IN 2009, A B.N.S.F.
AIR POLLUTION IMPACTS.
>> Reporter: IN 2009, A B.N.S.F.
RAILWAY REPRESENTATIVE TESTIFIED >> Reporter: IN 2009, A B.N.S.F.
RAILWAY REPRESENTATIVE TESTIFIED IN A DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAY REPRESENTATIVE TESTIFIED IN A DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING IN A DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING THAT AS MUCH AS 645 POUNDS OF TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING THAT AS MUCH AS 645 POUNDS OF COAL DUST IS LOST FROM EACH CAR THAT AS MUCH AS 645 POUNDS OF COAL DUST IS LOST FROM EACH CAR DURING A 400-MILE JOURNEY.
COAL DUST IS LOST FROM EACH CAR DURING A 400-MILE JOURNEY.
AND IF A COAL TRAIN USUALLY HAS DURING A 400-MILE JOURNEY.
AND IF A COAL TRAIN USUALLY HAS ABOUT 125 CARS, THE AMOUNT OF AND IF A COAL TRAIN USUALLY HAS ABOUT 125 CARS, THE AMOUNT OF DUST COULD ADD UP QUICKLY.
ABOUT 125 CARS, THE AMOUNT OF DUST COULD ADD UP QUICKLY.
B.N.S.F.
NOW REQUIRES COMPANIES DUST COULD ADD UP QUICKLY.
B.N.S.F.
NOW REQUIRES COMPANIES THAT SHIP COAL TO APPLY WHAT'S B.N.S.F.
NOW REQUIRES COMPANIES THAT SHIP COAL TO APPLY WHAT'S CALLED SURFACTANT OR A TOPPER THAT SHIP COAL TO APPLY WHAT'S CALLED SURFACTANT OR A TOPPER AGENT TO COAL TRAINS BEFORE THEY CALLED SURFACTANT OR A TOPPER AGENT TO COAL TRAINS BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE MINES.
AGENT TO COAL TRAINS BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE MINES.
THEY SAY THIS HELPS SUPPRESS LEAVE THE MINES.
THEY SAY THIS HELPS SUPPRESS DUST BY ABOUT 85%.
THEY SAY THIS HELPS SUPPRESS DUST BY ABOUT 85%.
PHYSICIANS LIKE MARTIN DONOHOE, DUST BY ABOUT 85%.
PHYSICIANS LIKE MARTIN DONOHOE, A PORTLAND-BASED PUBLIC HEALTH PHYSICIANS LIKE MARTIN DONOHOE, A PORTLAND-BASED PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATE, ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE A PORTLAND-BASED PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATE, ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE DIESEL EXHAUST COMING FROM TRAIN ADVOCATE, ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE DIESEL EXHAUST COMING FROM TRAIN LOCOMOTIVES.
DIESEL EXHAUST COMING FROM TRAIN LOCOMOTIVES.
>> WE KNOW FROM NUMEROUS PEER LOCOMOTIVES.
>> WE KNOW FROM NUMEROUS PEER REVIEWED POPULATION WIDE STUDIES >> WE KNOW FROM NUMEROUS PEER REVIEWED POPULATION WIDE STUDIES THAT THERE IS AN INCREASE IN REVIEWED POPULATION WIDE STUDIES THAT THERE IS AN INCREASE IN ASTHMA EXACERBATION WHEN PEOPLE THAT THERE IS AN INCREASE IN ASTHMA EXACERBATION WHEN PEOPLE ARE EXPOSED TO DIESEL ASTHMA EXACERBATION WHEN PEOPLE ARE EXPOSED TO DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER.
ARE EXPOSED TO DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT PARTICULATE MATTER.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THE PARTICLES FROM THE COAL IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THE PARTICLES FROM THE COAL TRAINS, THE PARTICLES OF COAL THE PARTICLES FROM THE COAL TRAINS, THE PARTICLES OF COAL DUST, THE PARTICLES IN THE TRAINS, THE PARTICLES OF COAL DUST, THE PARTICLES IN THE DIESEL MATTER ARE MICROSCOPIC, DUST, THE PARTICLES IN THE DIESEL MATTER ARE MICROSCOPIC, ULTRA FINE PARTICLES THAT YOU DIESEL MATTER ARE MICROSCOPIC, ULTRA FINE PARTICLES THAT YOU CAN'T SEE.
ULTRA FINE PARTICLES THAT YOU CAN'T SEE.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DO THE CAN'T SEE.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DO THE REAL DAMAGE BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DO THE REAL DAMAGE BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT TO THE DEEPEST PARTS OF THE REAL DAMAGE BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT TO THE DEEPEST PARTS OF THE AIRWAYS.
TO THE DEEPEST PARTS OF THE AIRWAYS.
SO YOU MAY NOT BE SEEING IT, BUT AIRWAYS.
SO YOU MAY NOT BE SEEING IT, BUT YOU'RE BREATHING IT, AND IT'S SO YOU MAY NOT BE SEEING IT, BUT YOU'RE BREATHING IT, AND IT'S AFFECTING YOU.
YOU'RE BREATHING IT, AND IT'S AFFECTING YOU.
>> Reporter: THERE ARE CURRENTLY AFFECTING YOU.
>> Reporter: THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE COAL TRAINS A DAY THAT >> Reporter: THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE COAL TRAINS A DAY THAT TRAVEL THROUGH THE NORTHWEST UP THREE COAL TRAINS A DAY THAT TRAVEL THROUGH THE NORTHWEST UP TO PORTS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.
TRAVEL THROUGH THE NORTHWEST UP TO PORTS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.
CANADIAN PORTS ARE ALREADY TO PORTS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA.
CANADIAN PORTS ARE ALREADY OPERATING AT NEAR CAPACITY.
CANADIAN PORTS ARE ALREADY OPERATING AT NEAR CAPACITY.
THEY TOO WOULD NEED TO EXPAND IN OPERATING AT NEAR CAPACITY.
THEY TOO WOULD NEED TO EXPAND IN ORDER TO SHIP MORE COAL ABROAD.
THEY TOO WOULD NEED TO EXPAND IN ORDER TO SHIP MORE COAL ABROAD.
HERE AT THE WESTSHORE TERMINAL ORDER TO SHIP MORE COAL ABROAD.
HERE AT THE WESTSHORE TERMINAL IN BRITISH COLUMBIA ABOUT 1.5 HERE AT THE WESTSHORE TERMINAL IN BRITISH COLUMBIA ABOUT 1.5 MILLION TONS OF COAL IS WAITING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA ABOUT 1.5 MILLION TONS OF COAL IS WAITING TO BE SHIPPED TO ASIA.
MILLION TONS OF COAL IS WAITING TO BE SHIPPED TO ASIA.
>> WESTSHORE WAS BUILT IN THE TO BE SHIPPED TO ASIA.
>> WESTSHORE WAS BUILT IN THE 1970s.
>> WESTSHORE WAS BUILT IN THE 1970s.
SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND 1970s.
SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS ARE SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE TODAY.
MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE TODAY.
COMPARING WHAT WESTSHORE TODAY.
COMPARING WHAT WESTSHORE TERMINAL IS AND WHAT OUR COMPARING WHAT WESTSHORE TERMINAL IS AND WHAT OUR TERMINALS ARE GOING TO BE.
TERMINAL IS AND WHAT OUR TERMINALS ARE GOING TO BE.
ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL BASIS, IT'S TERMINALS ARE GOING TO BE.
ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL BASIS, IT'S LOOKING AT A 1970 G.T.O.
VERSUS ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL BASIS, IT'S LOOKING AT A 1970 G.T.O.
VERSUS A PRIUS.
LOOKING AT A 1970 G.T.O.
VERSUS A PRIUS.
>> Reporter: UNLIKE THE A PRIUS.
>> Reporter: UNLIKE THE WESTSHORE FACILITY, THE GATEWAY >> Reporter: UNLIKE THE WESTSHORE FACILITY, THE GATEWAY PACIFIC TERMINAL IS DESIGNED SO WESTSHORE FACILITY, THE GATEWAY PACIFIC TERMINAL IS DESIGNED SO THE COAL WOULD BE COVERED DURING PACIFIC TERMINAL IS DESIGNED SO THE COAL WOULD BE COVERED DURING THE LOADING PROCESS.
THE COAL WOULD BE COVERED DURING THE LOADING PROCESS.
>> WE'VE BUILT IN A GREAT DEAL THE LOADING PROCESS.
>> WE'VE BUILT IN A GREAT DEAL OF DESIGN ELEMENTS TO PROTECT >> WE'VE BUILT IN A GREAT DEAL OF DESIGN ELEMENTS TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
OF DESIGN ELEMENTS TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CONVEYING THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CONVEYING SYSTEMS ON THE TERMINAL COVERED.
WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CONVEYING SYSTEMS ON THE TERMINAL COVERED.
ANY CONVEYING SYSTEMS THAT GO SYSTEMS ON THE TERMINAL COVERED.
ANY CONVEYING SYSTEMS THAT GO OUT OVER THE WATER ARE ACTUALLY ANY CONVEYING SYSTEMS THAT GO OUT OVER THE WATER ARE ACTUALLY COMPLETELY ENCLOSED.
OUT OVER THE WATER ARE ACTUALLY COMPLETELY ENCLOSED.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S AN EITHER/OR COMPLETELY ENCLOSED.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S AN EITHER/OR PROPOSITION.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S AN EITHER/OR PROPOSITION.
WE THINK YOU CAN DO BOTH-- THAT PROPOSITION.
WE THINK YOU CAN DO BOTH-- THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP FAMILY WAGE JOBS WE THINK YOU CAN DO BOTH-- THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP FAMILY WAGE JOBS AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AND PROTECT YOU CAN DEVELOP FAMILY WAGE JOBS AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> Reporter: FOR JEREMIAH THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> Reporter: FOR JEREMIAH JULIUS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS >> Reporter: FOR JEREMIAH JULIUS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS OUTWEIGH THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
JULIUS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS OUTWEIGH THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
>> THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUTWEIGH THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
>> THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO LOSE ALL THESE JOBS AND TAXES IF WE >> THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO LOSE ALL THESE JOBS AND TAXES IF WE DON'T ALLOW THIS TO GO IN, WHICH ALL THESE JOBS AND TAXES IF WE DON'T ALLOW THIS TO GO IN, WHICH TO ME IS FALSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DON'T ALLOW THIS TO GO IN, WHICH TO ME IS FALSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LOSE SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE.
TO ME IS FALSE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LOSE SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE.
WE HAVE OUR FISH, WE HAVE OUR LOSE SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE.
WE HAVE OUR FISH, WE HAVE OUR SALMON, WE HAVE CLEAN AIR, WE WE HAVE OUR FISH, WE HAVE OUR SALMON, WE HAVE CLEAN AIR, WE WE'LL LOSE THAT.
SALMON, WE HAVE CLEAN AIR, WE WE'LL LOSE THAT.
THAT'S LOSING TO ME.
WE'LL LOSE THAT.
THAT'S LOSING TO ME.
TO ME, THESE TANKERS ARE THE THAT'S LOSING TO ME.
TO ME, THESE TANKERS ARE THE TRAINS THAT KILLED OFF THE TO ME, THESE TANKERS ARE THE TRAINS THAT KILLED OFF THE BUFFALO.
TRAINS THAT KILLED OFF THE BUFFALO.
THESE TANKERS ARE GOING TO KILL BUFFALO.
THESE TANKERS ARE GOING TO KILL MY WAY OF LIFE, MY FISHING, MY THESE TANKERS ARE GOING TO KILL MY WAY OF LIFE, MY FISHING, MY SO TO ME THIS IS, IT IS A MY WAY OF LIFE, MY FISHING, MY SO TO ME THIS IS, IT IS A BATTLE.
SO TO ME THIS IS, IT IS A BATTLE.
>> Reporter: BEFORE ANY OF THE BATTLE.
>> Reporter: BEFORE ANY OF THE COAL EXPORT TERMINALS CAN BE >> Reporter: BEFORE ANY OF THE COAL EXPORT TERMINALS CAN BE BUILT, THE POTENTIAL COAL EXPORT TERMINALS CAN BE BUILT, THE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THESE BUILT, THE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THESE FACILITIES MUST BE STUDIED.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THESE FACILITIES MUST BE STUDIED.
IT'S A PROCESS THAT CAN TAKE FACILITIES MUST BE STUDIED.
IT'S A PROCESS THAT CAN TAKE MONTHS, POSSIBLY YEARS.
IT'S A PROCESS THAT CAN TAKE MONTHS, POSSIBLY YEARS.
>> Woodruff: FEDERAL AND STATE MONTHS, POSSIBLY YEARS.
>> Woodruff: FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATORS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK >> Woodruff: FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATORS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT THEY ARE EXTENDING THE REGULATORS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT THEY ARE EXTENDING THE SCOPE OF THE REVIEW PROCESS AT THAT THEY ARE EXTENDING THE SCOPE OF THE REVIEW PROCESS AT CHERRY POINT TO CONSIDER CLIMATE SCOPE OF THE REVIEW PROCESS AT CHERRY POINT TO CONSIDER CLIMATE CHANGE, HUMAN HEALTH AND THE CHERRY POINT TO CONSIDER CLIMATE CHANGE, HUMAN HEALTH AND THE IMPACTS OF TRANSPORTING COAL BY CHANGE, HUMAN HEALTH AND THE IMPACTS OF TRANSPORTING COAL BY RAIL.
IMPACTS OF TRANSPORTING COAL BY RAIL.
FOR THE RECORD, B.N.S.F.
RAILWAY RAIL.
FOR THE RECORD, B.N.S.F.
RAILWAY COMPANY IS A "NEWSHOUR" FOR THE RECORD, B.N.S.F.
RAILWAY COMPANY IS A "NEWSHOUR" UNDERWRITER.
>> Brown: WE TURN NOW TO A NEW PORTRAIT OF HOW AMERICANS VIEW THEMSELVES AND THEIR ECONOMIC PORTRAIT OF HOW AMERICANS VIEW THEMSELVES AND THEIR ECONOMIC FUTURES.
THEMSELVES AND THEIR ECONOMIC FUTURES.
RAY SUAREZ HAS OUR LOOK.
FUTURES.
RAY SUAREZ HAS OUR LOOK.
>> Suarez: FOR DECADES, WHITE, RAY SUAREZ HAS OUR LOOK.
>> Suarez: FOR DECADES, WHITE, HISPANIC AND BLACK AMERICANS >> Suarez: FOR DECADES, WHITE, HISPANIC AND BLACK AMERICANS HAVE FELT SIMILARLY OPTIMISTIC HISPANIC AND BLACK AMERICANS HAVE FELT SIMILARLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THEIR CHANCES OF IMPROVING HAVE FELT SIMILARLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THEIR CHANCES OF IMPROVING THEIR LIVES AND ECONOMIC ABOUT THEIR CHANCES OF IMPROVING THEIR LIVES AND ECONOMIC PROSPECTS.
THEIR LIVES AND ECONOMIC PROSPECTS.
BUT A STUDY OUT THIS WEEK PROSPECTS.
BUT A STUDY OUT THIS WEEK SHOWS THAT SINCE ABOUT 2006, BUT A STUDY OUT THIS WEEK SHOWS THAT SINCE ABOUT 2006, WHITES HAVE BECOME MORE SHOWS THAT SINCE ABOUT 2006, WHITES HAVE BECOME MORE PESSIMISTIC.
WHITES HAVE BECOME MORE PESSIMISTIC.
AT THE SAME TIME, BLACKS AND PESSIMISTIC.
AT THE SAME TIME, BLACKS AND HISPANICS HAVE GROWN MORE AT THE SAME TIME, BLACKS AND HISPANICS HAVE GROWN MORE OPTIMISTIC.
HISPANICS HAVE GROWN MORE OPTIMISTIC.
NOW WE ASK WHY.
OPTIMISTIC.
NOW WE ASK WHY.
JOINING ME ARE MATT BARRETO, A NOW WE ASK WHY.
JOINING ME ARE MATT BARRETO, A POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT JOINING ME ARE MATT BARRETO, A POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND CO-FOUNDER OF THE OPINION THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND CO-FOUNDER OF THE OPINION RESEARCH GROUP LATINO DECISIONS.
CO-FOUNDER OF THE OPINION RESEARCH GROUP LATINO DECISIONS.
AND ELLIS COSE, THE AUTHOR OF RESEARCH GROUP LATINO DECISIONS.
AND ELLIS COSE, THE AUTHOR OF "THE END OF ANGER: A NEW AND ELLIS COSE, THE AUTHOR OF "THE END OF ANGER: A NEW GENERATION'S TAKE ON RACE AND "THE END OF ANGER: A NEW GENERATION'S TAKE ON RACE AND RAGE."
GENERATION'S TAKE ON RACE AND RAGE."
PROFESSOR BARRETO, BY SO MANY RAGE."
PROFESSOR BARRETO, BY SO MANY MEASURES, WHITE FAMILIES ARE PROFESSOR BARRETO, BY SO MANY MEASURES, WHITE FAMILIES ARE DOING BETTER.
MEASURES, WHITE FAMILIES ARE DOING BETTER.
YOU KNOW, TAKEN IN THE DOING BETTER.
YOU KNOW, TAKEN IN THE AGGREGATE, THE SOCIOECONOMIC YOU KNOW, TAKEN IN THE AGGREGATE, THE SOCIOECONOMIC AGGREGATE, THE SOCIOECONOMIC MEASUREMENTS ARE JUST BETTER.
MEASUREMENTS ARE JUST BETTER.
WHY SO MUCH PESSIMISM?
>> WELL, I THINK IT REFLECTS WHY SO MUCH PESSIMISM?
>> WELL, I THINK IT REFLECTS WHAT WE CALL A CEILING EFFECT, >> WELL, I THINK IT REFLECTS WHAT WE CALL A CEILING EFFECT, AND THAT IS THAT WHITES HAVE WHAT WE CALL A CEILING EFFECT, AND THAT IS THAT WHITES HAVE BEEN DOING BETTER FOR A VERY AND THAT IS THAT WHITES HAVE BEEN DOING BETTER FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
BEEN DOING BETTER FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE LONG TIME.
YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE POST-WORLD WAR II ERA WHEN YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE POST-WORLD WAR II ERA WHEN WHITES REALLY STARTED MOVING POST-WORLD WAR II ERA WHEN WHITES REALLY STARTED MOVING INTO THE SUBURBS AND THE UPPER WHITES REALLY STARTED MOVING INTO THE SUBURBS AND THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS SO THEY'VE OCCUPIED INTO THE SUBURBS AND THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS SO THEY'VE OCCUPIED THAT TOP RUNG OF DOING BETTER MIDDLE CLASS SO THEY'VE OCCUPIED THAT TOP RUNG OF DOING BETTER FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND NOW AS THAT TOP RUNG OF DOING BETTER FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND NOW AS THEY START TO EVALUATE THEIR FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND NOW AS THEY START TO EVALUATE THEIR POSITION I THINK A LOT OF WHITE THEY START TO EVALUATE THEIR POSITION I THINK A LOT OF WHITE AMERICANS ARE SAYING "WE DON'T POSITION I THINK A LOT OF WHITE AMERICANS ARE SAYING "WE DON'T SEE OURS GROWING ANYMORE.
AMERICANS ARE SAYING "WE DON'T SEE OURS GROWING ANYMORE.
WE'VE BEEN AT THIS TOP RUNG AND SEE OURS GROWING ANYMORE.
WE'VE BEEN AT THIS TOP RUNG AND WE'RE NOT GROWING.
WE'VE BEEN AT THIS TOP RUNG AND WE'RE NOT GROWING.
INSTEAD WE SEE OTHER GROUPS ARE WE'RE NOT GROWING.
INSTEAD WE SEE OTHER GROUPS ARE ALSO GROWING."
INSTEAD WE SEE OTHER GROUPS ARE ALSO GROWING."
AND THAT LEADS TO A LITTLE BIT ALSO GROWING."
AND THAT LEADS TO A LITTLE BIT MORE PESSIMISM IN THEIR OWN AND THAT LEADS TO A LITTLE BIT MORE PESSIMISM IN THEIR OWN REFLECTION OF THEIR GROUP.
MORE PESSIMISM IN THEIR OWN REFLECTION OF THEIR GROUP.
THAT PERHAPS THEY'VE ALREADY REFLECTION OF THEIR GROUP.
THAT PERHAPS THEY'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED THE HIGHEST RUNG THAT THAT PERHAPS THEY'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED THE HIGHEST RUNG THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE.
ACHIEVED THE HIGHEST RUNG THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE.
>> Suarez: ELLIS COAST, THEY'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE.
>> Suarez: ELLIS COAST, CONVERSELY, BLACK AND BROWN >> Suarez: ELLIS COAST, CONVERSELY, BLACK AND BROWN AMERICANS ARE LESS LIKELY TO CONVERSELY, BLACK AND BROWN AMERICANS ARE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE A COLLEGE CREDENTIAL, MORE AMERICANS ARE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE A COLLEGE CREDENTIAL, MORE LAKELY TO BE UNEMPLOYED.
HAVE A COLLEGE CREDENTIAL, MORE LAKELY TO BE UNEMPLOYED.
BY A LOT OF SOCIOECONOMIC LAKELY TO BE UNEMPLOYED.
BY A LOT OF SOCIOECONOMIC METRIX, JUST DOING WORSE.
BY A LOT OF SOCIOECONOMIC METRIX, JUST DOING WORSE.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE OPTIMISM?
METRIX, JUST DOING WORSE.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE OPTIMISM?
>> EASY.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE OPTIMISM?
>> EASY.
I WAS SPEAKING WHEN I WAS DOING >> EASY.
I WAS SPEAKING WHEN I WAS DOING RESEARCH TO A GUY NAMED DAVE I WAS SPEAKING WHEN I WAS DOING RESEARCH TO A GUY NAMED DAVE THOMAS WHO IS A PROFESSOR AT RESEARCH TO A GUY NAMED DAVE THOMAS WHO IS A PROFESSOR AT HARVARD AND HE USED THE PHRASE THOMAS WHO IS A PROFESSOR AT HARVARD AND HE USED THE PHRASE "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE" TO HARVARD AND HE USED THE PHRASE "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE" TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE WERE THEN "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE" TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE WERE THEN PICKING UP IN THE POLLS BECAUSE EXPLAIN WHAT WE WERE THEN PICKING UP IN THE POLLS BECAUSE THIS POLL FINDING IS NOT NEW.
PICKING UP IN THE POLLS BECAUSE THIS POLL FINDING IS NOT NEW.
IT GOES BACK SEVERAL YEARS.
THIS POLL FINDING IS NOT NEW.
IT GOES BACK SEVERAL YEARS.
AND IN ESSENCE PART OF IT THAT IT GOES BACK SEVERAL YEARS.
AND IN ESSENCE PART OF IT THAT WHAT AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE AND IN ESSENCE PART OF IT THAT WHAT AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE LOOKING AT AND LATINOS AS WELL WHAT AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE LOOKING AT AND LATINOS AS WELL IS ASPIRATIONAL.
LOOKING AT AND LATINOS AS WELL IS ASPIRATIONAL.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
IS ASPIRATIONAL.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
WE'VE GONE, AS MATT BASICALLY THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
WE'VE GONE, AS MATT BASICALLY SAID, FROM BEING A COUNTRY THAT WE'VE GONE, AS MATT BASICALLY SAID, FROM BEING A COUNTRY THAT WAS BASICALLY AND TOTALLY SAID, FROM BEING A COUNTRY THAT WAS BASICALLY AND TOTALLY DOMINATED BY WHITES TO SOMETHING WAS BASICALLY AND TOTALLY DOMINATED BY WHITES TO SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT NOW.
DOMINATED BY WHITES TO SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT NOW.
AND SO FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU VERY DIFFERENT NOW.
AND SO FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO ARE AND SO FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO ARE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE TO BREAK HAVE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO ARE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE TO BREAK THROUGH SOME OF THESE CEILINGS SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE TO BREAK THROUGH SOME OF THESE CEILINGS THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK THROUGH SOME OF THESE CEILINGS THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK THROUGH A GENERATION AGO.
THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK THROUGH A GENERATION AGO.
AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THROUGH A GENERATION AGO.
AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, THE FACT THAT AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, THE FACT THAT UNEMPLOYMENT FOR AFRICAN THE FUTURE, THE FACT THAT UNEMPLOYMENT FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS HAS BEEN ROUGHLY TWICE UNEMPLOYMENT FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS HAS BEEN ROUGHLY TWICE WHAT IT IS FOR WHITE AMERICANS, AMERICANS HAS BEEN ROUGHLY TWICE WHAT IT IS FOR WHITE AMERICANS, PRETTY MUCH FOREVER, THAT DOES WHAT IT IS FOR WHITE AMERICANS, PRETTY MUCH FOREVER, THAT DOES NOT AFFECT HOW YOU SEE THE PRETTY MUCH FOREVER, THAT DOES NOT AFFECT HOW YOU SEE THE PROSPECTS FOR YOUR CHILD BECAUSE NOT AFFECT HOW YOU SEE THE PROSPECTS FOR YOUR CHILD BECAUSE YOU SAY MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO PROSPECTS FOR YOUR CHILD BECAUSE YOU SAY MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME A C.E.O.
OF A YOU SAY MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME A C.E.O.
OF A CORPORATION.
BECOME A C.E.O.
OF A CORPORATION.
MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME A CORPORATION.
MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME A BIG TALK SHOW HOST.
MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME A BIG TALK SHOW HOST.
MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME BIG TALK SHOW HOST.
MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
MY CHILD MAY BE ABLE TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULDN'T PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULDN'T SAY A GENERATION AGO AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULDN'T SAY A GENERATION AGO AND THAT'S REVOLUTIONARY.
SAY A GENERATION AGO AND THAT'S REVOLUTIONARY.
>> Suarez: PROFESSOR, IT'S NOT REVOLUTIONARY.
>> Suarez: PROFESSOR, IT'S NOT A FOUR 4%, 5%, 6% DIFFERENCE, >> Suarez: PROFESSOR, IT'S NOT A FOUR 4%, 5%, 6% DIFFERENCE, IT'S A HUGE BULGE, 25%, 28%.
A FOUR 4%, 5%, 6% DIFFERENCE, IT'S A HUGE BULGE, 25%, 28%.
DOES THAT NUMBER, THAT BIG IT'S A HUGE BULGE, 25%, 28%.
DOES THAT NUMBER, THAT BIG NUMBER DEMAND TO BE LOOKED AT DOES THAT NUMBER, THAT BIG NUMBER DEMAND TO BE LOOKED AT MORE CLOSELY.
NUMBER DEMAND TO BE LOOKED AT MORE CLOSELY.
YOU'RE A GUY WHO WORKS WITH MORE CLOSELY.
YOU'RE A GUY WHO WORKS WITH STATISTICS AND SAMPLES AND POLLS YOU'RE A GUY WHO WORKS WITH STATISTICS AND SAMPLES AND POLLS ALL THE TIME.
STATISTICS AND SAMPLES AND POLLS ALL THE TIME.
>> YES, RAY, I THINK ABSOLUTELY ALL THE TIME.
>> YES, RAY, I THINK ABSOLUTELY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE >> YES, RAY, I THINK ABSOLUTELY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
AND AS WE JUST HEARD, THIS IS SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
AND AS WE JUST HEARD, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THOSE OF US IN AND AS WE JUST HEARD, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THOSE OF US IN THE RESEARCH COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT THOSE OF US IN THE RESEARCH COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTING FOR A NUMBER OF THE RESEARCH COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS: THAT DECLINE IN WHITE DOCUMENTING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS: THAT DECLINE IN WHITE OPTIMISM AND OPENNESS-- WHICH I YEARS: THAT DECLINE IN WHITE OPTIMISM AND OPENNESS-- WHICH I THINK ULTIMATELY IS ALSO TIED TO OPTIMISM AND OPENNESS-- WHICH I THINK ULTIMATELY IS ALSO TIED TO THE RISE OF THE TEA PARTY IN THINK ULTIMATELY IS ALSO TIED TO THE RISE OF THE TEA PARTY IN 2009 AND 2010-- AND AT THE SAME THE RISE OF THE TEA PARTY IN 2009 AND 2010-- AND AT THE SAME TIME WHAT YOU'VE HAD IS YOU'VE 2009 AND 2010-- AND AT THE SAME TIME WHAT YOU'VE HAD IS YOU'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN THAT TIME WHAT YOU'VE HAD IS YOU'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN THAT ASPIRATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR HAD AN INCREASE IN THAT ASPIRATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR BLACKS AND HISPANICS.
ASPIRATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR BLACKS AND HISPANICS.
YOU'VE SEEN A BLACK PRESIDENT BLACKS AND HISPANICS.
YOU'VE SEEN A BLACK PRESIDENT ELECTED, YOU'VE SEEN A LATINA YOU'VE SEEN A BLACK PRESIDENT ELECTED, YOU'VE SEEN A LATINA APPOINTED TO THE UNITED STATES ELECTED, YOU'VE SEEN A LATINA APPOINTED TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, YOU'VE SEEN ALL APPOINTED TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, YOU'VE SEEN ALL SORTS OF DISCUSSION OF THE BLACK SUPREME COURT, YOU'VE SEEN ALL SORTS OF DISCUSSION OF THE BLACK AND A LATINO VOTE AFTER THE 2012 SORTS OF DISCUSSION OF THE BLACK AND A LATINO VOTE AFTER THE 2012 ELECTION AND THAT MAKES MINORITY AND A LATINO VOTE AFTER THE 2012 ELECTION AND THAT MAKES MINORITY COMMUNITIES FEEL A BIT MORE ELECTION AND THAT MAKES MINORITY COMMUNITIES FEEL A BIT MORE EMPOWERED AND OPTIMISTIC.
COMMUNITIES FEEL A BIT MORE EMPOWERED AND OPTIMISTIC.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE SEEN A EMPOWERED AND OPTIMISTIC.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE SEEN A STEADY DECLINE OVER THE LAST FEW AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE SEEN A STEADY DECLINE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS OF WHITE AMERICANS IN STEADY DECLINE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS OF WHITE AMERICANS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY VIEW THEIR YEARS OF WHITE AMERICANS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY VIEW THEIR FUTURE IN RELATIONSHIP, NOT JUST TERMS OF HOW THEY VIEW THEIR FUTURE IN RELATIONSHIP, NOT JUST TO THEMSELVES BUS IN FUTURE IN RELATIONSHIP, NOT JUST TO THEMSELVES BUS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS GROWING TO THEMSELVES BUS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS GROWING MINORITY COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED RELATIONSHIP TO THIS GROWING MINORITY COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES WHICH IS FLEXING ITS MINORITY COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES WHICH IS FLEXING ITS MUSCLE.
STATES WHICH IS FLEXING ITS MUSCLE.
NOW I THINK THAT DOES NEED TO BE MUSCLE.
NOW I THINK THAT DOES NEED TO BE DISCUSSED.
NOW I THINK THAT DOES NEED TO BE DISCUSSED.
>> Suarez: FAMILIES OF ALL DISCUSSED.
>> Suarez: FAMILIES OF ALL RACES EXPERIENCED TERRIBLE >> Suarez: FAMILIES OF ALL RACES EXPERIENCED TERRIBLE LOSSES DURING THE WORST OF THE RACES EXPERIENCED TERRIBLE LOSSES DURING THE WORST OF THE RECESSION BUT ELLIS COSE, THE LOSSES DURING THE WORST OF THE RECESSION BUT ELLIS COSE, THE LOSSES AMONG BLACK AND BROWN RECESSION BUT ELLIS COSE, THE LOSSES AMONG BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES WERE BRUTAL.
LOSSES AMONG BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES WERE BRUTAL.
DOESN'T THE VIEW OF TODAY COLOR FAMILIES WERE BRUTAL.
DOESN'T THE VIEW OF TODAY COLOR HOW YOU SEE THE FUTURE?
DOESN'T THE VIEW OF TODAY COLOR HOW YOU SEE THE FUTURE?
>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE HOW YOU SEE THE FUTURE?
>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE AND YOU ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT >> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE AND YOU ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW THEIR OWN ECONOMIC SITUATION AND YOU ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW THEIR OWN ECONOMIC SITUATION IS, BLACKS ARE NO MORE LIKELY HOW THEIR OWN ECONOMIC SITUATION IS, BLACKS ARE NO MORE LIKELY THAN WHITES TO SAY THAT IT'S IS, BLACKS ARE NO MORE LIKELY THAN WHITES TO SAY THAT IT'S GOOD.
THAN WHITES TO SAY THAT IT'S GOOD.
IN FACT, THEY'RELESS LIKELY.
GOOD.
IN FACT, THEY'RELESS LIKELY.
BUT IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION IS IN FACT, THEY'RELESS LIKELY.
BUT IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION IS THE COUNTRY ON THE RIGHT PATH, BUT IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION IS THE COUNTRY ON THE RIGHT PATH, IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION ARE MY THE COUNTRY ON THE RIGHT PATH, IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION ARE MY CHILDREN GOING TO DO BETTER?
IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION ARE MY CHILDREN GOING TO DO BETTER?
IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION ARE CHILDREN GOING TO DO BETTER?
IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY FAMILY IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY FAMILY GOING TO DO WELL?
PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY FAMILY GOING TO DO WELL?
THEN YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT STORY.
GOING TO DO WELL?
THEN YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT STORY.
A LOT OF THAT IS ABOUT THE THEN YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT STORY.
A LOT OF THAT IS ABOUT THE FUTURE.
A LOT OF THAT IS ABOUT THE FUTURE.
PART OF WHAT YOU'RE PICKING UP FUTURE.
PART OF WHAT YOU'RE PICKING UP IS SOMETHING GENERAL RAEUGAL.
PART OF WHAT YOU'RE PICKING UP IS SOMETHING GENERAL RAEUGAL.
MY BOOK LOOKED CLOSELY AT THE IS SOMETHING GENERAL RAEUGAL.
MY BOOK LOOKED CLOSELY AT THE DIFFERENCE IN DIFFERENT MY BOOK LOOKED CLOSELY AT THE DIFFERENCE IN DIFFERENT GENERATIONS AND THE YOUNGER DIFFERENCE IN DIFFERENT GENERATIONS AND THE YOUNGER GENERATION, THE UNDER 40, UNDER GENERATIONS AND THE YOUNGER GENERATION, THE UNDER 40, UNDER 30 GENERATION SEES A DIFFERENT GENERATION, THE UNDER 40, UNDER 30 GENERATION SEES A DIFFERENT AMERICA THAN THE OVER 40, OVER 30 GENERATION SEES A DIFFERENT AMERICA THAN THE OVER 40, OVER 50 GENERATION SEES.
AMERICA THAN THE OVER 40, OVER 50 GENERATION SEES.
THEY SEE AN AMERICA THAT'S MORE 50 GENERATION SEES.
THEY SEE AN AMERICA THAT'S MORE OPEN WHERE SUCCESS IS MORE THEY SEE AN AMERICA THAT'S MORE OPEN WHERE SUCCESS IS MORE POSSIBLE.
OPEN WHERE SUCCESS IS MORE POSSIBLE.
SO EVEN IF PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING POSSIBLE.
SO EVEN IF PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING NOW-- AND THEY ARE, AND AFRICAN SO EVEN IF PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING NOW-- AND THEY ARE, AND AFRICAN AMERICANS IF YOU LOOK NOW-- AND THEY ARE, AND AFRICAN AMERICANS IF YOU LOOK OBJECTIVELY HAVE A BIGGER CHANCE AMERICANS IF YOU LOOK OBJECTIVELY HAVE A BIGGER CHANCE OF FALLING OUT OF THE OBJECTIVELY HAVE A BIGGER CHANCE OF FALLING OUT OF THE MIDDLE-CLASS THAN WHITE OF FALLING OUT OF THE MIDDLE-CLASS THAN WHITE AMERICAN-- SO IT'S BRUTAL BUT IN MIDDLE-CLASS THAN WHITE AMERICAN-- SO IT'S BRUTAL BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR AMERICAN-- SO IT'S BRUTAL BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND IN THE FUTURE TERMS OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND IN THE FUTURE YOU GET THESE RESPONSES WHERE THEIR CHILDREN AND IN THE FUTURE YOU GET THESE RESPONSES WHERE PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, THINGS YOU GET THESE RESPONSES WHERE PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, THINGS AREN'T POSSIBLY THAT WEREN'T PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, THINGS AREN'T POSSIBLY THAT WEREN'T POSSIBLE BEFORE AND THAT TRUMPS AREN'T POSSIBLY THAT WEREN'T POSSIBLE BEFORE AND THAT TRUMPS THE PARTICULAR SITUATION MANY POSSIBLE BEFORE AND THAT TRUMPS THE PARTICULAR SITUATION MANY FIND THEMSELVES IN AT THIS THE PARTICULAR SITUATION MANY FIND THEMSELVES IN AT THIS MOMENT.
FIND THEMSELVES IN AT THIS MOMENT.
>> Suarez: PROFESSOR, QUICKLY, MOMENT.
>> Suarez: PROFESSOR, QUICKLY, BEFORE WE GO, WHAT NUMBERS WILL >> Suarez: PROFESSOR, QUICKLY, BEFORE WE GO, WHAT NUMBERS WILL YOU BE LOOKING AT IN THE NEAR BEFORE WE GO, WHAT NUMBERS WILL YOU BE LOOKING AT IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO SEE HOW THESE YOU BE LOOKING AT IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO SEE HOW THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE TRACKED OVER FUTURE TO SEE HOW THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE TRACKED OVER TIME?
QUESTIONS WILL BE TRACKED OVER TIME?
WHAT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT?
TIME?
WHAT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT?
>> WE NOT ONLY WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT?
>> WE NOT ONLY WANT TO LOOK AT HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL GROUP >> WE NOT ONLY WANT TO LOOK AT HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL GROUP EVALUATES HAIR OPPORTUNITY BUS HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL GROUP EVALUATES HAIR OPPORTUNITY BUS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE EVALUATES HAIR OPPORTUNITY BUS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CROSS PRESSURES HERE.
WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CROSS PRESSURES HERE.
WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW CROSS PRESSURES HERE.
WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW GROUPS ARE MORE WILLING TO WORK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW GROUPS ARE MORE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU GROUPS ARE MORE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU CALLED THE FACTS ON THE GROUND, TOGETHER AND TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU CALLED THE FACTS ON THE GROUND, THE FACT THAT BLACKS AND LATINOS CALLED THE FACTS ON THE GROUND, THE FACT THAT BLACKS AND LATINOS STILL DO LAG BEHIND WHITES THE FACT THAT BLACKS AND LATINOS STILL DO LAG BEHIND WHITES DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE STILL DO LAG BEHIND WHITES DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE MORE OPTIMISTIC TODAY, THEY'RE DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE MORE OPTIMISTIC TODAY, THEY'RE LAGGING BEHIND.
MORE OPTIMISTIC TODAY, THEY'RE LAGGING BEHIND.
WE WANT TO SEE ALL GROUPS LAGGING BEHIND.
WE WANT TO SEE ALL GROUPS WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE WE WANT TO SEE ALL GROUPS WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE CAN IMPROVE THE ECONOMY AND THE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE CAN IMPROVE THE ECONOMY AND THE SITUATION FOR ALL AMERICANS.
CAN IMPROVE THE ECONOMY AND THE SITUATION FOR ALL AMERICANS.
>> Suarez: MATT BARRETO, ELLIS SITUATION FOR ALL AMERICANS.
>> Suarez: MATT BARRETO, ELLIS COSE, THANK YOU BETH.
>> Suarez: MATT BARRETO, ELLIS COSE, THANK YOU BETH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Woodruff: AND TO THE ANALYSIS OF BROOKS AND MARCUS.
"NEW YORK TIMES" COLUMNIST DAVID OF BROOKS AND MARCUS.
"NEW YORK TIMES" COLUMNIST DAVID BROOKS AND WASHINGTON POST "NEW YORK TIMES" COLUMNIST DAVID BROOKS AND WASHINGTON POST COLUMNIST RUTH MARCUS.
BROOKS AND WASHINGTON POST COLUMNIST RUTH MARCUS.
MARK SHIELDS IS OFF TODAY.
COLUMNIST RUTH MARCUS.
MARK SHIELDS IS OFF TODAY.
WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.
MARK SHIELDS IS OFF TODAY.
WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE LEAD STORY WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE LEAD STORY TONIGHT: JOBS REPORT.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE LEAD STORY TONIGHT: JOBS REPORT.
DAVID, 162,000 JOBS CREATED IN TONIGHT: JOBS REPORT.
DAVID, 162,000 JOBS CREATED IN JULY.
DAVID, 162,000 JOBS CREATED IN JULY.
THEY -- THAT WAS ADDED, BUT JULY.
THEY -- THAT WAS ADDED, BUT IT'SLESS THAN WHAT WAS EXPECTHE THEY -- THAT WAS ADDED, BUT IT'SLESS THAN WHAT WAS EXPECTHE ECONOMY?
IT'SLESS THAN WHAT WAS EXPECTHE ECONOMY?
>> I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS ECONOMY?
>> I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS GROWING BOTH ON LEFT AND RIGHT >> I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS GROWING BOTH ON LEFT AND RIGHT THAT THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS ARE GROWING BOTH ON LEFT AND RIGHT THAT THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS ARE BECOMING SUPER OBVIOUS.
THAT THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS ARE BECOMING SUPER OBVIOUS.
SO WHEN THIS RECESSION START ADD BECOMING SUPER OBVIOUS.
SO WHEN THIS RECESSION START ADD NUMBER OF YEARS AGO YOU HAD 63 SO WHEN THIS RECESSION START ADD NUMBER OF YEARS AGO YOU HAD 63 OUT OF 100 AMERICANS IN THE NUMBER OF YEARS AGO YOU HAD 63 OUT OF 100 AMERICANS IN THE LABOR FORCE, NOW WE'RE DOWN, OUT OF 100 AMERICANS IN THE LABOR FORCE, NOW WE'RE DOWN, FEWER THAN IN -- THAN WHEN THE LABOR FORCE, NOW WE'RE DOWN, FEWER THAN IN -- THAN WHEN THE RECESSION STARTED.
FEWER THAN IN -- THAN WHEN THE RECESSION STARTED.
SO THAT SUGGESTS WE'VE GOT DEEP RECESSION STARTED.
SO THAT SUGGESTS WE'VE GOT DEEP STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS.
SO THAT SUGGESTS WE'VE GOT DEEP STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS.
IT PROBABLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS.
IT PROBABLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE, COMPANIES IT PROBABLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE, COMPANIES ARE NOT HIRING HUMAN BEINGS, TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE, COMPANIES ARE NOT HIRING HUMAN BEINGS, THEY'RE HIRE MAGANES.ZI ARE NOT HIRING HUMAN BEINGS, THEY'RE HIRE MAGANES.ZI IT PROBABLY HAS TO DO WITH A THEY'RE HIRE MAGANES.ZI IT PROBABLY HAS TO DO WITH A SKILLS SHORTAGE, THAT AS IT PROBABLY HAS TO DO WITH A SKILLS SHORTAGE, THAT AS TECHNOLOGY INCREASES SKILLS HAVE SKILLS SHORTAGE, THAT AS TECHNOLOGY INCREASES SKILLS HAVE TO KEEP UP AND SKILLS ARE NOT TECHNOLOGY INCREASES SKILLS HAVE TO KEEP UP AND SKILLS ARE NOT KEEPING UP.
TO KEEP UP AND SKILLS ARE NOT KEEPING UP.
IT HAS TO DO WITH SOCIOLOGICAL KEEPING UP.
IT HAS TO DO WITH SOCIOLOGICAL CHANGES, MEN DROPPING OUT OF THE IT HAS TO DO WITH SOCIOLOGICAL CHANGES, MEN DROPPING OUT OF THE LABOR FORCES.
CHANGES, MEN DROPPING OUT OF THE LABOR FORCES.
WOMEN, ESPECIALLY YOUNG WOMEN LABOR FORCES.
WOMEN, ESPECIALLY YOUNG WOMEN NEVER ENTERING THE LABOR FORCE WOMEN, ESPECIALLY YOUNG WOMEN NEVER ENTERING THE LABOR FORCE AND SO THESE ARE DEEP STRUCTURAL NEVER ENTERING THE LABOR FORCE AND SO THESE ARE DEEP STRUCTURAL CHANGES.
AND SO THESE ARE DEEP STRUCTURAL CHANGES.
AND I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS CHANGES.
AND I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS GROWING THAT SOMETHING AND I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS GROWING THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL HAS SHIFTED IN THE GROWING THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL HAS SHIFTED IN THE ECONOMY AND I WOULDN'T SAY FUNDAMENTAL HAS SHIFTED IN THE ECONOMY AND I WOULDN'T SAY ANYBODY IN THE POLITICAL ARENA ECONOMY AND I WOULDN'T SAY ANYBODY IN THE POLITICAL ARENA HAS MUCH OF A SET OF SOLUTIONS ANYBODY IN THE POLITICAL ARENA HAS MUCH OF A SET OF SOLUTIONS THE WAY THEY DID IN THE HAS MUCH OF A SET OF SOLUTIONS THE WAY THEY DID IN THE PROGRESSIVE ERA, THE NEW DEAL THE WAY THEY DID IN THE PROGRESSIVE ERA, THE NEW DEAL ERA, EVEN THE REAGAN ERA THAT PROGRESSIVE ERA, THE NEW DEAL ERA, EVEN THE REAGAN ERA THAT ARE COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE ERA, EVEN THE REAGAN ERA THAT ARE COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE OF THIS PROBLEM.
ARE COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE OF THIS PROBLEM.
>> Woodruff: SO HOW MUCH OF THIS PROBLEM.
>> Woodruff: SO HOW MUCH REASON FOR DISCOURAGEMENT, RUTH?
>> Woodruff: SO HOW MUCH REASON FOR DISCOURAGEMENT, RUTH?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO BE MS. ROSY REASON FOR DISCOURAGEMENT, RUTH?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO BE MS. ROSY TO DAVID'S PESSIMISTIC SCENARIO.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO BE MS. ROSY TO DAVID'S PESSIMISTIC SCENARIO.
THIS WAS ANOTHER LIMPING MONTH TO DAVID'S PESSIMISTIC SCENARIO.
THIS WAS ANOTHER LIMPING MONTH AND A LIMPING RECOVERY AND HERE THIS WAS ANOTHER LIMPING MONTH AND A LIMPING RECOVERY AND HERE ARE SOME NUMBERS TO JUST KIND OF AND A LIMPING RECOVERY AND HERE ARE SOME NUMBERS TO JUST KIND OF UNDERSCORE THAT.
ARE SOME NUMBERS TO JUST KIND OF UNDERSCORE THAT.
THE HAMILTON PROJECT AT THE UNDERSCORE THAT.
THE HAMILTON PROJECT AT THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION LOOKED AT THE HAMILTON PROJECT AT THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION LOOKED AT JOB GROWTH AND SAID IF WE ADDED BROOKINGS INSTITUTION LOOKED AT JOB GROWTH AND SAID IF WE ADDED 208,000 JOBS-- WHICH, OF COURSE, JOB GROWTH AND SAID IF WE ADDED 208,000 JOBS-- WHICH, OF COURSE, IS WAY BETTER THAN WE DID THIS 208,000 JOBS-- WHICH, OF COURSE, IS WAY BETTER THAN WE DID THIS MONTH-- IF WE ADDED 208,000 JOBS IS WAY BETTER THAN WE DID THIS MONTH-- IF WE ADDED 208,000 JOBS A MONTH IT WOULD TAKE US UNTIL MONTH-- IF WE ADDED 208,000 JOBS A MONTH IT WOULD TAKE US UNTIL APRIL, 2020 TO JUST GET US BACK A MONTH IT WOULD TAKE US UNTIL APRIL, 2020 TO JUST GET US BACK TO THE PLACE THAT WE WERE IN APRIL, 2020 TO JUST GET US BACK TO THE PLACE THAT WE WERE IN DECEMBER, 2007, WHEN THES ME TO THE PLACE THAT WE WERE IN DECEMBER, 2007, WHEN THES ME BEGAN.
DECEMBER, 2007, WHEN THES ME BEGAN.
AND SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU A BEGAN.
AND SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU A MEASURE OF THE DAUNTINGNESS AND AND SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU A MEASURE OF THE DAUNTINGNESS AND YOU LOOK NOT JUST AT THE -- MEASURE OF THE DAUNTINGNESS AND YOU LOOK NOT JUST AT THE -- EVERYBODY LOOKS AT 7.2%, THE NEW YOU LOOK NOT JUST AT THE -- EVERYBODY LOOKS AT 7.2%, THE NEW UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURE IS DOWN A EVERYBODY LOOKS AT 7.2%, THE NEW UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURE IS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURE IS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE LITTLE BIT.
BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT PICTURE.
BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT PICTURE.
THE DISCOURAGED WORKERS, THE TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT PICTURE.
THE DISCOURAGED WORKERS, THE LESS -- THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST THE DISCOURAGED WORKERS, THE LESS -- THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK.
LESS -- THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK.
THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T WORKING AS STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK.
THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T WORKING AS HARD AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO, AS THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T WORKING AS HARD AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO, AS MANY HOURS AS THEY'D LIKE TO.
HARD AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO, AS MANY HOURS AS THEY'D LIKE TO.
THAT'S 14% OF THE LABOR FORCE.
MANY HOURS AS THEY'D LIKE TO.
THAT'S 14% OF THE LABOR FORCE.
I THINK DAVID'S TOTALLY RIGHT THAT'S 14% OF THE LABOR FORCE.
I THINK DAVID'S TOTALLY RIGHT WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HOW WE NEED I THINK DAVID'S TOTALLY RIGHT WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO SORT OF GET TO SOME REALLY WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO SORT OF GET TO SOME REALLY STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS.
TO SORT OF GET TO SOME REALLY STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS.
AND THE THING THAT'S SO STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS.
AND THE THING THAT'S SO DISAPPOINTING IS THAT WE'RE AND THE THING THAT'S SO DISAPPOINTING IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A POLITICAL SYSTEM DISAPPOINTING IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T SEEM CAPABLE OF LOOKING AT A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T SEEM CAPABLE OF ACHIEVING THAT.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM CAPABLE OF ACHIEVING THAT.
>> Woodruff: HOW DO YOU GET TO ACHIEVING THAT.
>> Woodruff: HOW DO YOU GET TO STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS?
>> Woodruff: HOW DO YOU GET TO STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS?
THE PRESIDENT HAD A STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS?
THE PRESIDENT HAD A RECOMMENDATION THIS WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT HAD A RECOMMENDATION THIS WEEK FOR CHANGING THE CORPORATE TAX RATE.
RECOMMENDATION THIS WEEK FOR CHANGING THE CORPORATE TAX RATE.
HE SAID THIS WAS ONE WAY TO CHANGING THE CORPORATE TAX RATE.
HE SAID THIS WAS ONE WAY TO CREATE JOBS FOR THE MIDDLE HE SAID THIS WAS ONE WAY TO CREATE JOBS FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS.
CREATE JOBS FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS.
IS THAT THE KIND OF THING?
CLASS.
IS THAT THE KIND OF THING?
>> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
IS THAT THE KIND OF THING?
>> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
I MEAN, CHANGING THE CORPORATE >> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
I MEAN, CHANGING THE CORPORATE TAX RATE, OUR CORPORATE TAXES I MEAN, CHANGING THE CORPORATE TAX RATE, OUR CORPORATE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH, UNREALISTIC, TAX RATE, OUR CORPORATE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH, UNREALISTIC, THEY'RE INTERNATIONALLY ARE TOO HIGH, UNREALISTIC, THEY'RE INTERNATIONALLY COMPETITIVE, WE SHOULD CHANGE THEY'RE INTERNATIONALLY COMPETITIVE, WE SHOULD CHANGE THEM.
COMPETITIVE, WE SHOULD CHANGE THEM.
AND HE WANTS TO TAKE THAT MONEY THEM.
AND HE WANTS TO TAKE THAT MONEY PRODUCED AND SHIFT IT TO AND HE WANTS TO TAKE THAT MONEY PRODUCED AND SHIFT IT TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S ALSO PRODUCED AND SHIFT IT TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S ALSO NEEDED AND SO THERE ARE SMALL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S ALSO NEEDED AND SO THERE ARE SMALL STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I NEEDED AND SO THERE ARE SMALL STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I SUPPOSE.
STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I SUPPOSE.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE SUPPOSE.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE OF BUT YOU WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE OF THE PROBLEM.
COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE OF THE PROBLEM.
NOW, WE'VE GOT DECADES-LONG THE PROBLEM.
NOW, WE'VE GOT DECADES-LONG PROBLEMS OF WAGE STAGNATIONS, NOW, WE'VE GOT DECADES-LONG PROBLEMS OF WAGE STAGNATIONS, WIDENING INEQUALITY, JUST PROBLEMS OF WAGE STAGNATIONS, WIDENING INEQUALITY, JUST GIGANTIC PROBLEMS AND WHEN I WIDENING INEQUALITY, JUST GIGANTIC PROBLEMS AND WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS GIGANTIC PROBLEMS AND WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS PROPOSING AND WHAT THE LOOK AT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS PROPOSING AND WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE PROPOSING, PROPOSING AND WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE PROPOSING, THEY'RE SMALL.
REPUBLICANS ARE PROPOSING, THEY'RE SMALL.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AS THEY'RE SMALL.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AS BIG.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AS BIG.
AND I DENT BLAME THEM, BY THE BIG.
AND I DENT BLAME THEM, BY THE WAY.
AND I DENT BLAME THEM, BY THE WAY.
THEY'RE IN OFFICE, THEY'RE BUSY.
WAY.
THEY'RE IN OFFICE, THEY'RE BUSY.
IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO COME UP THEY'RE IN OFFICE, THEY'RE BUSY.
IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO COME UP WITH A GIGANTIC AGENDA.
IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO COME UP WITH A GIGANTIC AGENDA.
>> BUT ISN'T THIS A PRIORITY?
WITH A GIGANTIC AGENDA.
>> BUT ISN'T THIS A PRIORITY?
WHOSE JOB IS IT?
>> BUT ISN'T THIS A PRIORITY?
WHOSE JOB IS IT?
>> WELL, IT IS THEIR JOB.
WHOSE JOB IS IT?
>> WELL, IT IS THEIR JOB.
AND JUST -- THERE'S NO HUGE MEGA >> WELL, IT IS THEIR JOB.
AND JUST -- THERE'S NO HUGE MEGA SILVER BULLET STEP.
AND JUST -- THERE'S NO HUGE MEGA SILVER BULLET STEP.
THERE ARE A WHOLE SET OF SMALL SILVER BULLET STEP.
THERE ARE A WHOLE SET OF SMALL THINGS CAN THAT CAN HELP AND SO THERE ARE A WHOLE SET OF SMALL THINGS CAN THAT CAN HELP AND SO JOB RETRAINING, MONEY FOR THINGS CAN THAT CAN HELP AND SO JOB RETRAINING, MONEY FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES, LET'S START JOB RETRAINING, MONEY FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES, LET'S START SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, LET'S START SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THE PRESIDENT PROPOSED ALL OF SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THE PRESIDENT PROPOSED ALL OF THIS AND I THINK YOU'RE BEING THE PRESIDENT PROPOSED ALL OF THIS AND I THINK YOU'RE BEING TOO EVEN HANDED IN YOUR "WELL, THIS AND I THINK YOU'RE BEING TOO EVEN HANDED IN YOUR "WELL, THERE AREN'T LARGE IDEAS ON THE TOO EVEN HANDED IN YOUR "WELL, THERE AREN'T LARGE IDEAS ON THE -- AMONG DEMOCRAT FORCE THERE AREN'T LARGE IDEAS ON THE -- AMONG DEMOCRAT FORCE REPUBLICANS."
-- AMONG DEMOCRAT FORCE REPUBLICANS."
THE PRESIDENT PUT OUT THIS REPUBLICANS."
THE PRESIDENT PUT OUT THIS PROPOSAL WHICH, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THE PRESIDENT PUT OUT THIS PROPOSAL WHICH, YOU KNOW, LOOK, IT WASN'T A GRAND BARGAIN, IT PROPOSAL WHICH, YOU KNOW, LOOK, IT WASN'T A GRAND BARGAIN, IT WAS A MINI BARGAIN.
IT WASN'T A GRAND BARGAIN, IT WAS A MINI BARGAIN.
A LOT OF IT WAS RECYCLED FROM WAS A MINI BARGAIN.
A LOT OF IT WAS RECYCLED FROM PROPOSALS HE HAD PREVIOUSLY A LOT OF IT WAS RECYCLED FROM PROPOSALS HE HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE, BUT IT OFFERED SOMETHING PROPOSALS HE HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE, BUT IT OFFERED SOMETHING THAT REPUBLICANS IN A RATIONAL DONE, BUT IT OFFERED SOMETHING THAT REPUBLICANS IN A RATIONAL WORLD OUGHT TO HAVE ACCEPTED: A THAT REPUBLICANS IN A RATIONAL WORLD OUGHT TO HAVE ACCEPTED: A LOWER CORPORATE TAX RATE, WHICH WORLD OUGHT TO HAVE ACCEPTED: A LOWER CORPORATE TAX RATE, WHICH WOULD BE TERRIFIC FOR BUSINESS LOWER CORPORATE TAX RATE, WHICH WOULD BE TERRIFIC FOR BUSINESS AND THE ECONOMY AND FOR JOB WOULD BE TERRIFIC FOR BUSINESS AND THE ECONOMY AND FOR JOB CREATION AND SOME SHORT-TERM AND THE ECONOMY AND FOR JOB CREATION AND SOME SHORT-TERM SPENDING.
CREATION AND SOME SHORT-TERM SPENDING.
LANDED WITH THUAD.
SPENDING.
LANDED WITH THUAD.
NO POSSIBILITY.
LANDED WITH THUAD.
NO POSSIBILITY.
>> SO I THINK I'M BEING NOT EVEN NO POSSIBILITY.
>> SO I THINK I'M BEING NOT EVEN HANDED ENOUGH, AS USUAL.
>> SO I THINK I'M BEING NOT EVEN HANDED ENOUGH, AS USUAL.
(LAUGHTER) HANDED ENOUGH, AS USUAL.
(LAUGHTER) AS USUAL.
(LAUGHTER) AS USUAL.
>> Woodruff: DO WE GET CREDIT AS USUAL.
>> Woodruff: DO WE GET CREDIT FOR BEING EVEN HANDED AROUND >> Woodruff: DO WE GET CREDIT FOR BEING EVEN HANDED AROUND HERE?
FOR BEING EVEN HANDED AROUND HERE?
>> DAVID DOES!
HERE?
>> DAVID DOES!
>> THE REPUBLICANS, TO THEIR >> DAVID DOES!
>> THE REPUBLICANS, TO THEIR CREDIT, HAVE DONE -- HAVE >> THE REPUBLICANS, TO THEIR CREDIT, HAVE DONE -- HAVE SUGGESTED A BUNCH OF BIG CREDIT, HAVE DONE -- HAVE SUGGESTED A BUNCH OF BIG FUNDAMENTAL STRUCTURAL REFORMS, SUGGESTED A BUNCH OF BIG FUNDAMENTAL STRUCTURAL REFORMS, WHETHER IT'S A BIG COMPREHENSIVE FUNDAMENTAL STRUCTURAL REFORMS, WHETHER IT'S A BIG COMPREHENSIVE TAX THING THAT DAVE CAMP IN THE WHETHER IT'S A BIG COMPREHENSIVE TAX THING THAT DAVE CAMP IN THE HOUSE IS WORKING ON, WHETHER TAX THING THAT DAVE CAMP IN THE HOUSE IS WORKING ON, WHETHER IT'S A BIG ENTITLEMENT REFORM HOUSE IS WORKING ON, WHETHER IT'S A BIG ENTITLEMENT REFORM THAT PAUL RYAN IS TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S A BIG ENTITLEMENT REFORM THAT PAUL RYAN IS TALKING ABOUT.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THAT PAUL RYAN IS TALKING ABOUT.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS IT'S IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS IT'S THAT WE'VE HAD ENTRENCHED THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS IT'S THAT WE'VE HAD ENTRENCHED INSTITUTIONS STRANGLING POLICY THAT WE'VE HAD ENTRENCHED INSTITUTIONS STRANGLING POLICY MAKING INCREASINGLY FOR 30 OR 40 INSTITUTIONS STRANGLING POLICY MAKING INCREASINGLY FOR 30 OR 40 YEAR.
MAKING INCREASINGLY FOR 30 OR 40 YEAR.
AND TO CLEAR THAT AWAY YOU NEED YEAR.
AND TO CLEAR THAT AWAY YOU NEED BIG STRUCTURAL REFORMS AND I AND TO CLEAR THAT AWAY YOU NEED BIG STRUCTURAL REFORMS AND I THINK A BIG TAX REFORM, A BIG BIG STRUCTURAL REFORMS AND I THINK A BIG TAX REFORM, A BIG ENTITLEMENT REFORM WOULD BE AT THINK A BIG TAX REFORM, A BIG ENTITLEMENT REFORM WOULD BE AT LEAST GIGANTIC THINGS THAT WOULD ENTITLEMENT REFORM WOULD BE AT LEAST GIGANTIC THINGS THAT WOULD PUT US A LITTLE WAY IN THE RIGHT LEAST GIGANTIC THINGS THAT WOULD PUT US A LITTLE WAY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
PUT US A LITTLE WAY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I THINK REPUBLICANS DESERVE SOME DIRECTION.
I THINK REPUBLICANS DESERVE SOME CREDIT FOR SOME OF THAT.
I THINK REPUBLICANS DESERVE SOME CREDIT FOR SOME OF THAT.
>> GIGANTIC BUT WRONG BUT WE CAN CREDIT FOR SOME OF THAT.
>> GIGANTIC BUT WRONG BUT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS ARGUMENT LATER.
>> GIGANTIC BUT WRONG BUT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS ARGUMENT LATER.
>> Woodruff: IS THAT DANCING CONTINUE THIS ARGUMENT LATER.
>> Woodruff: IS THAT DANCING AROUND THE EDGES OR DO YOU AGREE >> Woodruff: IS THAT DANCING AROUND THE EDGES OR DO YOU AGREE THOSE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF AROUND THE EDGES OR DO YOU AGREE THOSE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF THEY COULD GET THE DEMOCRATS?
THOSE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF THEY COULD GET THE DEMOCRATS?
>> NOBODY WOULD BE MORE EXCITED THEY COULD GET THE DEMOCRATS?
>> NOBODY WOULD BE MORE EXCITED THAN ME TO HAVE A SERIOUS >> NOBODY WOULD BE MORE EXCITED THAN ME TO HAVE A SERIOUS NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THAN ME TO HAVE A SERIOUS NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL TAX REFORM.
NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL TAX REFORM.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO FAULT FUNDAMENTAL TAX REFORM.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO FAULT THE PRESIDENT ON IN THIS IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO FAULT THE PRESIDENT ON IN THIS CORPORATE PROPOSAL IT'S THAT WE THE PRESIDENT ON IN THIS CORPORATE PROPOSAL IT'S THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS INDIVIDUAL TAXES CORPORATE PROPOSAL IT'S THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS INDIVIDUAL TAXES AS WELL.
NEED TO ADDRESS INDIVIDUAL TAXES AS WELL.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A AS WELL.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT ENTITLEMENT REFORM.
SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT ENTITLEMENT REFORM.
I'M NOT SURE I THINK PAUL RYAN'S ENTITLEMENT REFORM.
I'M NOT SURE I THINK PAUL RYAN'S APPROACH -- IT'S BIG BUT IT MAY I'M NOT SURE I THINK PAUL RYAN'S APPROACH -- IT'S BIG BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY OR THE MOST APPROACH -- IT'S BIG BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY OR THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SOUND WAY TO DO IT.
NOT BE THE BEST WAY OR THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SOUND WAY TO DO IT.
MORALLY SOUND.
ECONOMICALLY SOUND WAY TO DO IT.
MORALLY SOUND.
>> Woodruff: BUT ALL THIS IS MORALLY SOUND.
>> Woodruff: BUT ALL THIS IS HAPPENING WHILE CONGRESS, TODAY, >> Woodruff: BUT ALL THIS IS HAPPENING WHILE CONGRESS, TODAY, HAS LEFT TOWN.
HAPPENING WHILE CONGRESS, TODAY, HAS LEFT TOWN.
THEY'RE GONE FOR MORE THAN A HAS LEFT TOWN.
THEY'RE GONE FOR MORE THAN A MONTH.
THEY'RE GONE FOR MORE THAN A MONTH.
>> FIVE WEEKS.
MONTH.
>> FIVE WEEKS.
>> Woodruff: THEY WON'T BE >> FIVE WEEKS.
>> Woodruff: THEY WON'T BE BACK UNTIL SEPTEMBER, DAVID.
>> Woodruff: THEY WON'T BE BACK UNTIL SEPTEMBER, DAVID.
WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT -- OR BACK UNTIL SEPTEMBER, DAVID.
WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT -- OR WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE THE BIG WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT -- OR WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE THE BIG UNANSWERED QUESTIONS OUT THERE WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE THE BIG UNANSWERED QUESTIONS OUT THERE ABOUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING, ABOUT UNANSWERED QUESTIONS OUT THERE ABOUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING, ABOUT THE DEBT LIMIT?
ABOUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING, ABOUT THE DEBT LIMIT?
WE COULD GO ON AND ON.
THE DEBT LIMIT?
WE COULD GO ON AND ON.
IMMIGRATION.
WE COULD GO ON AND ON.
IMMIGRATION.
>> WELL, JUST TO CONTINUE THE IMMIGRATION.
>> WELL, JUST TO CONTINUE THE THEME, THE SINGLE-BIGGEST GROWTH >> WELL, JUST TO CONTINUE THE THEME, THE SINGLE-BIGGEST GROWTH ITEM IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW IS THEME, THE SINGLE-BIGGEST GROWTH ITEM IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW IS THE IMMIGRATION BILL.
ITEM IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW IS THE IMMIGRATION BILL.
THE IMMIGRATION BILL WHICH THE IMMIGRATION BILL.
THE IMMIGRATION BILL WHICH ACCORDING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL THE IMMIGRATION BILL WHICH ACCORDING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE, ACCORDING TO DOUG ACCORDING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE, ACCORDING TO DOUG HOLZ-EAKIN WOULD PRODUCE BUDGET OFFICE, ACCORDING TO DOUG HOLZ-EAKIN WOULD PRODUCE GIGANTIC SIGNIFICANT INCREASES HOLZ-EAKIN WOULD PRODUCE GIGANTIC SIGNIFICANT INCREASES BOTH IN REVENUE, IN GROWTH, IN GIGANTIC SIGNIFICANT INCREASES BOTH IN REVENUE, IN GROWTH, IN JOB CREATION.
BOTH IN REVENUE, IN GROWTH, IN JOB CREATION.
AND SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING JOB CREATION.
AND SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE OUT IN FRONT OF US.
AND SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE OUT IN FRONT OF US.
AND YOU HAVE TO SAY AS THEY WE HAVE OUT IN FRONT OF US.
AND YOU HAVE TO SAY AS THEY LEAVE TOWN THE MOVEMENT ABOUT AND YOU HAVE TO SAY AS THEY LEAVE TOWN THE MOVEMENT ABOUT IMMIGRATION REFORM IS NOT LEAVE TOWN THE MOVEMENT ABOUT IMMIGRATION REFORM IS NOT PROMISING.
IMMIGRATION REFORM IS NOT PROMISING.
AND SO THAT'S BOTH A PROBLEM-- PROMISING.
AND SO THAT'S BOTH A PROBLEM-- BECAUSE WE CAN'T SOLVE THE AND SO THAT'S BOTH A PROBLEM-- BECAUSE WE CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM-- BUT IT'S ALSO A BECAUSE WE CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM-- BUT IT'S ALSO A RESULT.
PROBLEM-- BUT IT'S ALSO A RESULT.
AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED IN RESULT.
AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED IN ANOTHER PIECE, THE STAGNATION AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED IN ANOTHER PIECE, THE STAGNATION HAS CREATED A POLITICAL ANOTHER PIECE, THE STAGNATION HAS CREATED A POLITICAL FRACTURING OF THE COUNTRY AND A HAS CREATED A POLITICAL FRACTURING OF THE COUNTRY AND A POLARIZATION OF THE COUNTRY AS FRACTURING OF THE COUNTRY AND A POLARIZATION OF THE COUNTRY AS PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THEIR POLARIZATION OF THE COUNTRY AS PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THEIR STAGNANT OSPEPRCTS AND THAT'S PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THEIR STAGNANT OSPEPRCTS AND THAT'S PRODUCED A POLITICAL STAGNANT OSPEPRCTS AND THAT'S PRODUCED A POLITICAL POLARIZATION WHICH THEN MAKES IT PRODUCED A POLITICAL POLARIZATION WHICH THEN MAKES IT EVEN HARDER TO FIX THE PROBLEM POLARIZATION WHICH THEN MAKES IT EVEN HARDER TO FIX THE PROBLEM PEOPLE ARE ANGRY ABOUT.
EVEN HARDER TO FIX THE PROBLEM PEOPLE ARE ANGRY ABOUT.
>> I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE PEOPLE ARE ANGRY ABOUT.
>> I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE FALL.
>> I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE FALL.
WE HAD SOME GREEN SHOOTS OF FALL.
WE HAD SOME GREEN SHOOTS OF HOPE, ESPECIALLY ON THE SENATE WE HAD SOME GREEN SHOOTS OF HOPE, ESPECIALLY ON THE SENATE SIDE PASSING COMPREHENSIVE HOPE, ESPECIALLY ON THE SENATE SIDE PASSING COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL, PULLING BACK SIDE PASSING COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL, PULLING BACK FROM THE NUCLEAR CLIFF AND IMMIGRATION BILL, PULLING BACK FROM THE NUCLEAR CLIFF AND GETTING SOME -- >> Woodruff: FROM THE NUCLEAR CLIFF AND GETTING SOME -- >> Woodruff: OVER CONFIRMATION.
GETTING SOME -- >> Woodruff: OVER CONFIRMATION.
>> BUT THEN WE GOT TO THE HOUSE OVER CONFIRMATION.
>> BUT THEN WE GOT TO THE HOUSE AN WON'T DO >> BUT THEN WE GOT TO THE HOUSE AN WON'T DO COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION AN WON'T DO COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.
COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.
THE HOUSE THIS WEEK, WE SAW THE REFORM.
THE HOUSE THIS WEEK, WE SAW THE AMAZING SPECTACLE THAT IT WON'T THE HOUSE THIS WEEK, WE SAW THE AMAZING SPECTACLE THAT IT WON'T -- IT CAN'T PASS SPENDING BILLS AMAZING SPECTACLE THAT IT WON'T -- IT CAN'T PASS SPENDING BILLS AT THE LOW LEVEL THAT IT AGREED -- IT CAN'T PASS SPENDING BILLS AT THE LOW LEVEL THAT IT AGREED TO BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH AT THE LOW LEVEL THAT IT AGREED TO BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH SPENDING AND IT CAN'T GET A TO BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH SPENDING AND IT CAN'T GET A MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS TO AGREE SPENDING AND IT CAN'T GET A MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS TO AGREE TO CUT SPENDING THAT MUCH.
MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS TO AGREE TO CUT SPENDING THAT MUCH.
SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TO CUT SPENDING THAT MUCH.
SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RYAN BUDGET IN THEORY AND SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RYAN BUDGET IN THEORY AND THE RYAN BUDGET IN PRACTICE.
THE RYAN BUDGET IN THEORY AND THE RYAN BUDGET IN PRACTICE.
SO THE -- SO WHAT WE'RE FACING THE RYAN BUDGET IN PRACTICE.
SO THE -- SO WHAT WE'RE FACING WHEN WE COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER SO THE -- SO WHAT WE'RE FACING WHEN WE COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER IS TWO THINGS: REALLY PRETTY WHEN WE COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER IS TWO THINGS: REALLY PRETTY QUICKLY.
IS TWO THINGS: REALLY PRETTY QUICKLY.
FIRST OF ALL WE'RE GOING TO NEED QUICKLY.
FIRST OF ALL WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PASS A CONTINUING RESOLUTION FIRST OF ALL WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PASS A CONTINUING RESOLUTION TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT TO PASS A CONTINUING RESOLUTION TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONING PAST SEPTEMBER 30.
TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONING PAST SEPTEMBER 30.
IF YOU CAN'T GET AGREEMENT ON FUNCTIONING PAST SEPTEMBER 30.
IF YOU CAN'T GET AGREEMENT ON THESE SPENDING BILL WHICH IS IF YOU CAN'T GET AGREEMENT ON THESE SPENDING BILL WHICH IS OUGHTN'T TO BE TERRIBLY THESE SPENDING BILL WHICH IS OUGHTN'T TO BE TERRIBLY CONTROVERSIAL HOW WILL YOU GET OUGHTN'T TO BE TERRIBLY CONTROVERSIAL HOW WILL YOU GET AGREEMENT ON WHAT LEVEL?
CONTROVERSIAL HOW WILL YOU GET AGREEMENT ON WHAT LEVEL?
NOBODY WANTS A SHUT DOWN -- AGREEMENT ON WHAT LEVEL?
NOBODY WANTS A SHUT DOWN -- WELL, A FEW PEOPLE WANT IT.
NOBODY WANTS A SHUT DOWN -- WELL, A FEW PEOPLE WANT IT.
THEN, TO SPEAKING OF SANITY, WE WELL, A FEW PEOPLE WANT IT.
THEN, TO SPEAKING OF SANITY, WE HAVE THE DEBT CEILING COMING UP THEN, TO SPEAKING OF SANITY, WE HAVE THE DEBT CEILING COMING UP AND THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS HAVE THE DEBT CEILING COMING UP AND THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE HELD HOSTAGE TO GET AND THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE HELD HOSTAGE TO GET AN INCREASE ME THE DEBT CEILING.
GOING TO BE HELD HOSTAGE TO GET AN INCREASE ME THE DEBT CEILING.
>> Woodruff: AND THE MIDDLE OF AN INCREASE ME THE DEBT CEILING.
>> Woodruff: AND THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS, FUNDING THE >> Woodruff: AND THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS, FUNDING THE PRESIDENT'S HEALTH CARE.
ALL THIS, FUNDING THE PRESIDENT'S HEALTH CARE.
BUT WHAT ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PRESIDENT'S HEALTH CARE.
BUT WHAT ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO THINK, DAVID, AS THEY LOOK AT BUT WHAT ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO THINK, DAVID, AS THEY LOOK AT WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW?
TO THINK, DAVID, AS THEY LOOK AT WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW?
IS IT JUST DESPAIR?
WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW?
IS IT JUST DESPAIR?
IS THERE ANY RAY OF -- IS IT JUST DESPAIR?
IS THERE ANY RAY OF -- >> WE'VE BEEN PRETTY UPBEAT THE IS THERE ANY RAY OF -- >> WE'VE BEEN PRETTY UPBEAT THE LAST EIGHT MINUTES OR SO.
>> WE'VE BEEN PRETTY UPBEAT THE LAST EIGHT MINUTES OR SO.
YOU KNOW, IT -- MY BASIC VIEW IS LAST EIGHT MINUTES OR SO.
YOU KNOW, IT -- MY BASIC VIEW IS WASHINGTON REFLECTS THE COUNTRY.
YOU KNOW, IT -- MY BASIC VIEW IS WASHINGTON REFLECTS THE COUNTRY.
I THINK MEMBERS ARE RESPONDING WASHINGTON REFLECTS THE COUNTRY.
I THINK MEMBERS ARE RESPONDING REASONABLY RATIONALLY TO THE I THINK MEMBERS ARE RESPONDING REASONABLY RATIONALLY TO THE INCENTIVE STRUCTURE THEY'RE REASONABLY RATIONALLY TO THE INCENTIVE STRUCTURE THEY'RE GIVEN GIVEN THEIR CONSTITUENTS INCENTIVE STRUCTURE THEY'RE GIVEN GIVEN THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND SO THE COUNTRY BOTH GIVEN GIVEN THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND SO THE COUNTRY BOTH FRACTURED AND EXCESSIVELY AND SO THE COUNTRY BOTH FRACTURED AND EXCESSIVELY DISTRUSTFUL, NOT WILLING TO FRACTURED AND EXCESSIVELY DISTRUSTFUL, NOT WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND SO I ALWAYS BLAME DISTRUSTFUL, NOT WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND SO I ALWAYS BLAME THE COURY ANTS MUCH AS I BLAME COMPROMISE AND SO I ALWAYS BLAME THE COURY ANTS MUCH AS I BLAME WASHINGTON.
THE COURY ANTS MUCH AS I BLAME WASHINGTON.
>> NOW YOU'RE BEING UNFAIR TO WASHINGTON.
>> NOW YOU'RE BEING UNFAIR TO THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!
>> NOW YOU'RE BEING UNFAIR TO THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!
MY GOODNESS!
THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!
MY GOODNESS!
I ACTUALLY THINK -- WELL, I MY GOODNESS!
I ACTUALLY THINK -- WELL, I THINK WASHINGTON, THE PARTS OF I ACTUALLY THINK -- WELL, I THINK WASHINGTON, THE PARTS OF WASHINGTON ARE BETTER THAN ITS THINK WASHINGTON, THE PARTS OF WASHINGTON ARE BETTER THAN ITS PRODUCT.
WASHINGTON ARE BETTER THAN ITS PRODUCT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PRODUCT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS BUT, ARE WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS BUT, YES, THE COUNTRY FRACTURED AND TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS BUT, YES, THE COUNTRY FRACTURED AND IT DISAGREES.
YES, THE COUNTRY FRACTURED AND IT DISAGREES.
WASHINGTON IS REFLECTING ITS IT DISAGREES.
WASHINGTON IS REFLECTING ITS INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS IN THE WASHINGTON IS REFLECTING ITS INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS IN THE HOUSE.
INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS IN THE HOUSE.
BUT THE COUNTRY WANTS WASHINGTON HOUSE.
BUT THE COUNTRY WANTS WASHINGTON TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS.
BUT THE COUNTRY WANTS WASHINGTON TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS.
IT UNDERSTANDS IT'S NOT AN EASY TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS.
IT UNDERSTANDS IT'S NOT AN EASY SOLUTION, IT'S TIRED OF THE IT UNDERSTANDS IT'S NOT AN EASY SOLUTION, IT'S TIRED OF THE BICKERING AND IT WANTS IT TO SOLUTION, IT'S TIRED OF THE BICKERING AND IT WANTS IT TO STOP.
BICKERING AND IT WANTS IT TO STOP.
WHETHER IT'S WILLING TO PUNISH STOP.
WHETHER IT'S WILLING TO PUNISH THE PEOPLE ARE PREVENTING IT WHETHER IT'S WILLING TO PUNISH THE PEOPLE ARE PREVENTING IT FROM STOPPING AND UNWILLING TO THE PEOPLE ARE PREVENTING IT FROM STOPPING AND UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE IS ANOTHER STORY.
FROM STOPPING AND UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE IS ANOTHER STORY.
BUT, BOY -- COMPROMISE IS ANOTHER STORY.
BUT, BOY -- >> I'M BEING EXCESSIVELY KIND TO BUT, BOY -- >> I'M BEING EXCESSIVELY KIND TO THE COUNTRY.
>> I'M BEING EXCESSIVELY KIND TO THE COUNTRY.
>> NOW YOU'RE BEING TOO AMERICA.
THE COUNTRY.
>> NOW YOU'RE BEING TOO AMERICA.
>> Woodruff: WE HAVE TO FIGURE >> NOW YOU'RE BEING TOO AMERICA.
>> Woodruff: WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WHO'S NICER TO THE >> Woodruff: WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WHO'S NICER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
OUT HOW WHO'S NICER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
COMPLETE CHANGE OF SUBJECT.
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
COMPLETE CHANGE OF SUBJECT.
POPE FRANCIS THIS WEEK, DAVID, COMPLETE CHANGE OF SUBJECT.
POPE FRANCIS THIS WEEK, DAVID, MADE NEWS ON THE PLANE BACK TO POPE FRANCIS THIS WEEK, DAVID, MADE NEWS ON THE PLANE BACK TO ROME FROM HIS TRIP TO SOUTH MADE NEWS ON THE PLANE BACK TO ROME FROM HIS TRIP TO SOUTH AMERICA TALKING ABOUT SEXUALITY, ROME FROM HIS TRIP TO SOUTH AMERICA TALKING ABOUT SEXUALITY, TALKING ABOUT GAYS AND SAYING AMERICA TALKING ABOUT SEXUALITY, TALKING ABOUT GAYS AND SAYING "WHO AM I TO JUDGE IF SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT GAYS AND SAYING "WHO AM I TO JUDGE IF SOMEONE CHOOSES -- OR HAPPENS TO BE "WHO AM I TO JUDGE IF SOMEONE CHOOSES -- OR HAPPENS TO BE GAY."
CHOOSES -- OR HAPPENS TO BE GAY."
THE CHURCH DOCTRINE ISN'T GAY."
THE CHURCH DOCTRINE ISN'T CHANGING.
THE CHURCH DOCTRINE ISN'T CHANGING.
DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING?
CHANGING.
DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING?
>> I ONCE SAW A MASS ON T.V., DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING?
>> I ONCE SAW A MASS ON T.V., POPE JOHN PAUL II AND THE T.V.
>> I ONCE SAW A MASS ON T.V., POPE JOHN PAUL II AND THE T.V.
REPORTER GOT UP AFTERWARD AND POPE JOHN PAUL II AND THE T.V.
REPORTER GOT UP AFTERWARD AND SAID "NOTHING NEW HERE."
REPORTER GOT UP AFTERWARD AND SAID "NOTHING NEW HERE."
THE POPE'S JOB IS NOT TO BE NEW.
SAID "NOTHING NEW HERE."
THE POPE'S JOB IS NOT TO BE NEW.
THAT'S NOT HIS JOB.
THE POPE'S JOB IS NOT TO BE NEW.
THAT'S NOT HIS JOB.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THAT'S NOT HIS JOB.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A LITTLE EMPHASIS IN HOW SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A LITTLE EMPHASIS IN HOW INTERESTED THEY ARE IN SOME OF A LITTLE EMPHASIS IN HOW INTERESTED THEY ARE IN SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
INTERESTED THEY ARE IN SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
BUT CHURCH DOCTRINE IS NOT GOING THESE ISSUES.
BUT CHURCH DOCTRINE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND THE POPE'S NOT BUT CHURCH DOCTRINE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND THE POPE'S NOT THIS CHARGE OF THAT.
TO CHANGE AND THE POPE'S NOT THIS CHARGE OF THAT.
>> I AM TEMPTED TO SAY "WHO ARE THIS CHARGE OF THAT.
>> I AM TEMPTED TO SAY "WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE?"
>> I AM TEMPTED TO SAY "WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE?"
BUT SINCE THAT'S OUR JOB, THERE WE TO JUDGE?"
BUT SINCE THAT'S OUR JOB, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AND I THINK BUT SINCE THAT'S OUR JOB, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AND I THINK VERY WELCOME CHANGE IN TONE, A WAS A SIGNIFICANT AND I THINK VERY WELCOME CHANGE IN TONE, A HUMILITY, AN ACCEPTANCE, AN VERY WELCOME CHANGE IN TONE, A HUMILITY, AN ACCEPTANCE, AN OPENNESS.
HUMILITY, AN ACCEPTANCE, AN OPENNESS.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN IN THE OPENNESS.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN IN THE EYES OF THE CHURCH, IN THE EYES HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN IN THE EYES OF THE CHURCH, IN THE EYES OF THIS POPE AND HIS PREDECESSOR EYES OF THE CHURCH, IN THE EYES OF THIS POPE AND HIS PREDECESSOR BUT I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF OF THIS POPE AND HIS PREDECESSOR BUT I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF KINDNESS AND HUMILITY GOES A BUT I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF KINDNESS AND HUMILITY GOES A LONG WAY IN COLUMNIST INS AS KINDNESS AND HUMILITY GOES A LONG WAY IN COLUMNIST INS AS WELL AS IN POPES.
LONG WAY IN COLUMNIST INS AS WELL AS IN POPES.
>> Woodruff: IT EVEN WORKS WELL AS IN POPES.
>> Woodruff: IT EVEN WORKS HERE AT THE NEWSHOUR, RIGHT HERE >> Woodruff: IT EVEN WORKS HERE AT THE NEWSHOUR, RIGHT HERE ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.
HERE AT THE NEWSHOUR, RIGHT HERE ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.
DAVID BROOKS, RUTH MARCUS, GREAT ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.
DAVID BROOKS, RUTH MARCUS, GREAT TO HAVE YOU BOTH.
DAVID BROOKS, RUTH MARCUS, GREAT TO HAVE YOU BOTH.
>> THANKS.
TO HAVE YOU BOTH.
>> THANKS.
>> Woodruff: THANK YOU BOTH.
>> Brown: FINALLY TONIGHT, NEW RESEARCH THAT COULD LEAD US ALL IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
RESEARCH THAT COULD LEAD US ALL IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
IN JUNE, A 213-FOOT LUXURY YACHT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
IN JUNE, A 213-FOOT LUXURY YACHT SAILED IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS IN JUNE, A 213-FOOT LUXURY YACHT SAILED IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS OFF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF ITALY, SAILED IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS OFF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF ITALY, WHEN SUDDENLY, UNBEKNOWNST TO OFF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF ITALY, WHEN SUDDENLY, UNBEKNOWNST TO THE CREW, IT VEERED OFF-COURSE.
WHEN SUDDENLY, UNBEKNOWNST TO THE CREW, IT VEERED OFF-COURSE.
BUT THIS WAS NO SINISTER ACT THE CREW, IT VEERED OFF-COURSE.
BUT THIS WAS NO SINISTER ACT WORTHY OF A SPY FLICK.
BUT THIS WAS NO SINISTER ACT WORTHY OF A SPY FLICK.
INSTEAD, A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS WORTHY OF A SPY FLICK.
INSTEAD, A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS FROM UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT INSTEAD, A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS FROM UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN HAD DELIBERATELY COERCED FROM UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN HAD DELIBERATELY COERCED THE $80 MILLION VESSEL FROM ITS AUSTIN HAD DELIBERATELY COERCED THE $80 MILLION VESSEL FROM ITS TRACK, WITHOUT PHYSICALLY TAKING THE $80 MILLION VESSEL FROM ITS TRACK, WITHOUT PHYSICALLY TAKING THE HELM.
TRACK, WITHOUT PHYSICALLY TAKING THE HELM.
WITH THE BLESSING OF THOSE THE HELM.
WITH THE BLESSING OF THOSE ABOARD, PROFESSOR TODD WITH THE BLESSING OF THOSE ABOARD, PROFESSOR TODD HUMPHREY'S AND HIS GRADUATE ABOARD, PROFESSOR TODD HUMPHREY'S AND HIS GRADUATE STUDENTS EMPLOYED A TECHNIQUE HUMPHREY'S AND HIS GRADUATE STUDENTS EMPLOYED A TECHNIQUE CALLED G.P.S.
SPOOFING TO STUDENTS EMPLOYED A TECHNIQUE CALLED G.P.S.
SPOOFING TO EFFECTIVELY DISORIENT THE SHIP'S CALLED G.P.S.
SPOOFING TO EFFECTIVELY DISORIENT THE SHIP'S POSITIONING SYSTEM.
EFFECTIVELY DISORIENT THE SHIP'S POSITIONING SYSTEM.
CHANGES WENT UNDETECTED BY POSITIONING SYSTEM.
CHANGES WENT UNDETECTED BY ALARMS, AND THE AUTOPILOT SYSTEM CHANGES WENT UNDETECTED BY ALARMS, AND THE AUTOPILOT SYSTEM SHIFTED THE YACHT TO WHAT IT ALARMS, AND THE AUTOPILOT SYSTEM SHIFTED THE YACHT TO WHAT IT THOUGHT WAS THE ORIGINAL COURSE, SHIFTED THE YACHT TO WHAT IT THOUGHT WAS THE ORIGINAL COURSE, NOT ONE SELECTED BY HUMPHREY'S THOUGHT WAS THE ORIGINAL COURSE, NOT ONE SELECTED BY HUMPHREY'S TEAM.
NOT ONE SELECTED BY HUMPHREY'S TEAM.
THE DEMONSTRATION WAS THE FIRST TEAM.
THE DEMONSTRATION WAS THE FIRST TO SHOW G.P.S.
SPOOFING COULD THE DEMONSTRATION WAS THE FIRST TO SHOW G.P.S.
SPOOFING COULD POSE A REAL THREAT TO THE TO SHOW G.P.S.
SPOOFING COULD POSE A REAL THREAT TO THE WORLD'S CIVILIAN MARITIME POSE A REAL THREAT TO THE WORLD'S CIVILIAN MARITIME INDUSTRY.
WORLD'S CIVILIAN MARITIME INDUSTRY.
AND A YEAR EARLIER, THE TEXAS INDUSTRY.
AND A YEAR EARLIER, THE TEXAS RESEARCH GROUP SHOWED THE SAME AND A YEAR EARLIER, THE TEXAS RESEARCH GROUP SHOWED THE SAME DANGER ALSO EXISTS IN THE RESEARCH GROUP SHOWED THE SAME DANGER ALSO EXISTS IN THE CIVILIAN AEROSPACE SECTOR.
DANGER ALSO EXISTS IN THE CIVILIAN AEROSPACE SECTOR.
THEY SUCCESSFULLY USED THEIR CIVILIAN AEROSPACE SECTOR.
THEY SUCCESSFULLY USED THEIR G.P.S.
SPOOFING SYSTEM TO THEY SUCCESSFULLY USED THEIR G.P.S.
SPOOFING SYSTEM TO COMMANDEER AN UNMANNED AERIAL G.P.S.
SPOOFING SYSTEM TO COMMANDEER AN UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE ON U.T.
'S CAMPUS.
COMMANDEER AN UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE ON U.T.
'S CAMPUS.
AND REPEEDLYAT BROUGHT THE VEHICLE ON U.T.
'S CAMPUS.
AND REPEEDLYAT BROUGHT THE SMALL, HELICOPTER-LIKE DRONE TO AND REPEEDLYAT BROUGHT THE SMALL, HELICOPTER-LIKE DRONE TO THE GROUND BY ALTERING SMALL, HELICOPTER-LIKE DRONE TO THE GROUND BY ALTERING INFORMATION SENT TO ITS ALTITUDE THE GROUND BY ALTERING INFORMATION SENT TO ITS ALTITUDE NAVIGATION SYSTEM.
INFORMATION SENT TO ITS ALTITUDE NAVIGATION SYSTEM.
AND TODD HUMPHREYS, THE NAVIGATION SYSTEM.
AND TODD HUMPHREYS, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS RESEARCHER AND TODD HUMPHREYS, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS RESEARCHER BEHIND THESE PROJECTS JOINS US UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS RESEARCHER BEHIND THESE PROJECTS JOINS US NOW.
BEHIND THESE PROJECTS JOINS US NOW.
ALSO WITH US IS MILTON CLARY.
NOW.
ALSO WITH US IS MILTON CLARY.
HE WORKS WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALSO WITH US IS MILTON CLARY.
HE WORKS WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO IDENTIFY SUCH HE WORKS WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO IDENTIFY SUCH THREATS.
AGENCIES TO IDENTIFY SUCH THREATS.
HE'S A SENIOR ANALYST AT THREATS.
HE'S A SENIOR ANALYST AT OVERLOOK SYSTEMS TECHNOLOGIES.
HE'S A SENIOR ANALYST AT OVERLOOK SYSTEMS TECHNOLOGIES.
SO TODD HUMPHRIES, THIS HAS A OVERLOOK SYSTEMS TECHNOLOGIES.
SO TODD HUMPHRIES, THIS HAS A KIND OF INNOCUOUS FUNNY EVEN SO TODD HUMPHRIES, THIS HAS A KIND OF INNOCUOUS FUNNY EVEN NAME OF SPOOFING BUT IT SOUNDS KIND OF INNOCUOUS FUNNY EVEN NAME OF SPOOFING BUT IT SOUNDS RATHER SERIOUS.
NAME OF SPOOFING BUT IT SOUNDS RATHER SERIOUS.
YOU'RE, IN ESSENCE -- YOU'RE RATHER SERIOUS.
YOU'RE, IN ESSENCE -- YOU'RE TRICKING THE G.P.S.
SYSTEM?
YOU'RE, IN ESSENCE -- YOU'RE TRICKING THE G.P.S.
SYSTEM?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
TRICKING THE G.P.S.
SYSTEM?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE CONVINCINGLY FAKED THE G.P.S.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE CONVINCINGLY FAKED THE G.P.S.
SIGNALS AND MAKE A RECEIVER WE CONVINCINGLY FAKED THE G.P.S.
SIGNALS AND MAKE A RECEIVER THINK IT'S AT SOME OTHER PLACE SIGNALS AND MAKE A RECEIVER THINK IT'S AT SOME OTHER PLACE OR SOME OTHER TIME.
THINK IT'S AT SOME OTHER PLACE OR SOME OTHER TIME.
>> Brown: WHY DO IT?
OR SOME OTHER TIME.
>> Brown: WHY DO IT?
WHAT'S BEHIND THIS >> Brown: WHY DO IT?
WHAT'S BEHIND THIS EXPERIMENTING?
WHAT'S BEHIND THIS EXPERIMENTING?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DONE EXPERIMENTING?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DONE EXPERIMENTS IN OUR LABORATORY >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DONE EXPERIMENTS IN OUR LABORATORY AND WE'D CONVINCED OURSELVES EXPERIMENTS IN OUR LABORATORY AND WE'D CONVINCED OURSELVES THAT WE COULD HACK A G.P.S.
AND WE'D CONVINCED OURSELVES THAT WE COULD HACK A G.P.S.
RECEIVER, MAKE IT BELIEVE IT'S THAT WE COULD HACK A G.P.S.
RECEIVER, MAKE IT BELIEVE IT'S SOME OTHER PLACE, BUT WHAT DOES RECEIVER, MAKE IT BELIEVE IT'S SOME OTHER PLACE, BUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
SOME OTHER PLACE, BUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL?
THIS MEAN?
WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL?
COULD YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, REMOTELY WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL?
COULD YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, REMOTELY AND CLANDESTINELY LEAD AN COULD YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, REMOTELY AND CLANDESTINELY LEAD AN EXPENSIVE AND ENORMOUS SHIP AT AND CLANDESTINELY LEAD AN EXPENSIVE AND ENORMOUS SHIP AT SEA OFF COURSE WITHOUT THE CREW EXPENSIVE AND ENORMOUS SHIP AT SEA OFF COURSE WITHOUT THE CREW EVEN KNOWING?
SEA OFF COURSE WITHOUT THE CREW EVEN KNOWING?
THAT WAS THE QUESTION WE SOUGHT EVEN KNOWING?
THAT WAS THE QUESTION WE SOUGHT TO ANSWER AND IT TURNS OUT THE THAT WAS THE QUESTION WE SOUGHT TO ANSWER AND IT TURNS OUT THE ANSWER IS YES.
TO ANSWER AND IT TURNS OUT THE ANSWER IS YES.
>> Brown: HOW DO YOU VIEW THIS ANSWER IS YES.
>> Brown: HOW DO YOU VIEW THIS SPOOFING?
>> Brown: HOW DO YOU VIEW THIS SPOOFING?
HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
SPOOFING?
HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
>> WELL, SPOOFING IS CERTAINLY A HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
>> WELL, SPOOFING IS CERTAINLY A REAL PHENOMENON AND ESSENTIALLY >> WELL, SPOOFING IS CERTAINLY A REAL PHENOMENON AND ESSENTIALLY SPOOFING IS JUST BEING A VERY REAL PHENOMENON AND ESSENTIALLY SPOOFING IS JUST BEING A VERY BELIEVLE LABIE THAT THE RECEIVER SPOOFING IS JUST BEING A VERY BELIEVLE LABIE THAT THE RECEIVER GETS DOWN AND THINK IT'S GETTING BELIEVLE LABIE THAT THE RECEIVER GETS DOWN AND THINK IT'S GETTING DATA FROM THE SATELLITE BUT IN GETS DOWN AND THINK IT'S GETTING DATA FROM THE SATELLITE BUT IN EFFECT THINK OF IT AS JUST THIS DATA FROM THE SATELLITE BUT IN EFFECT THINK OF IT AS JUST THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOMEONE EFFECT THINK OF IT AS JUST THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOMEONE HAS SWITCHED ALL THE STREET IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOMEONE HAS SWITCHED ALL THE STREET SIGNS AROUND.
HAS SWITCHED ALL THE STREET SIGNS AROUND.
YOU THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT SIGNS AROUND.
YOU THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT STREET BUT YOU'RE REALLY NOT.
YOU THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT STREET BUT YOU'RE REALLY NOT.
>> Brown: WHY IS IT -- WHY ARE STREET BUT YOU'RE REALLY NOT.
>> Brown: WHY IS IT -- WHY ARE THESE KINDS OF EXPERIMENTS -- >> Brown: WHY IS IT -- WHY ARE THESE KINDS OF EXPERIMENTS -- I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION.
THESE KINDS OF EXPERIMENTS -- I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION.
WHY IS IT INTERESTING?
I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION.
WHY IS IT INTERESTING?
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?
WHY IS IT INTERESTING?
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CAN BE DONE SO WE CAN IN >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CAN BE DONE SO WE CAN IN TURN LEARN HOW TO PREVENT IT WHAT CAN BE DONE SO WE CAN IN TURN LEARN HOW TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING DONE.
TURN LEARN HOW TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING DONE.
AND THERE ARE CAPABILITIES FOR FROM BEING DONE.
AND THERE ARE CAPABILITIES FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THERE'S AND THERE ARE CAPABILITIES FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THERE'S BEEN NATIONAL POLICY TO DEVELOP THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THERE'S BEEN NATIONAL POLICY TO DEVELOP CAPABILITIES TO PRECLUDE THESE BEEN NATIONAL POLICY TO DEVELOP CAPABILITIES TO PRECLUDE THESE TYPES OF -- BASICALLY THREATS TO CAPABILITIES TO PRECLUDE THESE TYPES OF -- BASICALLY THREATS TO SPOOFING.
TYPES OF -- BASICALLY THREATS TO SPOOFING.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY CERTAIN SPOOFING.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY CERTAIN ELEMENTS WITHIN THE FEDERAL BUT UNFORTUNATELY CERTAIN ELEMENTS WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE SORT OF BEEN A ELEMENTS WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE SORT OF BEEN A CHIHUAHUA IN A CHINA SHOP WHEN GOVERNMENT HAVE SORT OF BEEN A CHIHUAHUA IN A CHINA SHOP WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE CHIHUAHUA IN A CHINA SHOP WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE WORK DONE.
IT COMES TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE WORK DONE.
>> Brown: WELL, WHAT KIND OF WORK DONE.
>> Brown: WELL, WHAT KIND OF -- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S >> Brown: WELL, WHAT KIND OF -- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S VULNERABLE AND WHAT'S NOT, WHAT -- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S VULNERABLE AND WHAT'S NOT, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE BOUND BY A VULNERABLE AND WHAT'S NOT, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE BOUND BY A G.P.S.
SYSTEM?
KINDS OF THINGS ARE BOUND BY A G.P.S.
SYSTEM?
>> WELL, WHEN YOU CONSIDER WHAT G.P.S.
SYSTEM?
>> WELL, WHEN YOU CONSIDER WHAT G.P.S.
DOES, PEOPLE THINK OF IT >> WELL, WHEN YOU CONSIDER WHAT G.P.S.
DOES, PEOPLE THINK OF IT AS, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR AM I TO G.P.S.
DOES, PEOPLE THINK OF IT AS, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR AM I TO THE GREEN?
AS, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR AM I TO THE GREEN?
OR HOW DO I GET TO THE LOCAL THE GREEN?
OR HOW DO I GET TO THE LOCAL SHOPPING CENTER?
OR HOW DO I GET TO THE LOCAL SHOPPING CENTER?
BUT G.P.S.
IS EMBEDDED IN SO SHOPPING CENTER?
BUT G.P.S.
IS EMBEDDED IN SO MUCH OF OUR CRITICAL BUT G.P.S.
IS EMBEDDED IN SO MUCH OF OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
MUCH OF OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
ALL OUR COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE.
ALL OUR COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM DEPENDING ON THE TIMING FROM ALL OUR COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM DEPENDING ON THE TIMING FROM G.P.S., ALL THE EMERGENCY DEPENDING ON THE TIMING FROM G.P.S., ALL THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS RELY ON G.P.S.
G.P.S., ALL THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS RELY ON G.P.S.
EMERGENCY 911.
RESPONDERS RELY ON G.P.S.
EMERGENCY 911.
IF YOU DIALED THAT ON YOUR EMERGENCY 911.
IF YOU DIALED THAT ON YOUR TELEPHONE IT WILL SHOW THE IF YOU DIALED THAT ON YOUR TELEPHONE IT WILL SHOW THE OPERATOR RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE TELEPHONE IT WILL SHOW THE OPERATOR RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE BASED ON THE G.P.S.
IN YOUR OPERATOR RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE BASED ON THE G.P.S.
IN YOUR PHONE.
BASED ON THE G.P.S.
IN YOUR PHONE.
IF THAT GETS -- IF G.P.S.
GOES PHONE.
IF THAT GETS -- IF G.P.S.
GOES AWAY OR GETS SPOOFED THAT COULD IF THAT GETS -- IF G.P.S.
GOES AWAY OR GETS SPOOFED THAT COULD BE VERY DISRUPTIVE.
AWAY OR GETS SPOOFED THAT COULD BE VERY DISRUPTIVE.
ALL OUR GROUND TRANSPORTATION, BE VERY DISRUPTIVE.
ALL OUR GROUND TRANSPORTATION, WATER TRANSPORTATION, RAIL ALL OUR GROUND TRANSPORTATION, WATER TRANSPORTATION, RAIL TRANSPORTATION, POSITIVE TRAIN WATER TRANSPORTATION, RAIL TRANSPORTATION, POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL WHICH IS A VERY TRANSPORTATION, POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO THE FEDERAL CONTROL WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO THE FEDERAL RAILWAY ADMINISTRATION TO KNOW IMPORTANT THING TO THE FEDERAL RAILWAY ADMINISTRATION TO KNOW WHERE THESE TRAINS ARE AND WHERE RAILWAY ADMINISTRATION TO KNOW WHERE THESE TRAINS ARE AND WHERE THEY ARE IN TIME.
WHERE THESE TRAINS ARE AND WHERE THEY ARE IN TIME.
>> Brown: TODD HUMPHRIES, HOW THEY ARE IN TIME.
>> Brown: TODD HUMPHRIES, HOW HARD IS IT TO DO OR EASY TO DO?
>> Brown: TODD HUMPHRIES, HOW HARD IS IT TO DO OR EASY TO DO?
YOU USED THE WORD "HACKING."
HARD IS IT TO DO OR EASY TO DO?
YOU USED THE WORD "HACKING."
IS THAT WHAT IT'S ABOUT?
YOU USED THE WORD "HACKING."
IS THAT WHAT IT'S ABOUT?
IS IT THE PROVERBIAL HACKER, THE IS THAT WHAT IT'S ABOUT?
IS IT THE PROVERBIAL HACKER, THE TEENAGER, WHO CAN DO THIS OR IS IT THE PROVERBIAL HACKER, THE TEENAGER, WHO CAN DO THIS OR WHAT?
TEENAGER, WHO CAN DO THIS OR WHAT?
>> IT IS A KIND OF HACKING WHAT?
>> IT IS A KIND OF HACKING ATTACK BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT A >> IT IS A KIND OF HACKING ATTACK BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT A TEENAGEER TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE.
ATTACK BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT A TEENAGEER TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE.
IT TOOK A TEAM OF ABOUT FOUR TEENAGEER TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE.
IT TOOK A TEAM OF ABOUT FOUR Ph.D. STUDENTS SEVERAL YEARS IT TOOK A TEAM OF ABOUT FOUR Ph.D. STUDENTS SEVERAL YEARS TO COME UP WITH THE BOX WE Ph.D. STUDENTS SEVERAL YEARS TO COME UP WITH THE BOX WE DEVELOPED THAT CAN CONVINCINGLY TO COME UP WITH THE BOX WE DEVELOPED THAT CAN CONVINCINGLY FAKE THESE GENERAL YES, SIR DEVELOPED THAT CAN CONVINCINGLY FAKE THESE GENERAL YES, SIR SIGNALS.
FAKE THESE GENERAL YES, SIR SIGNALS.
THE REAL WORRY I HAVE IS THAT SIGNALS.
THE REAL WORRY I HAVE IS THAT SOMEONE WHO IS PERHAPS NOT A THE REAL WORRY I HAVE IS THAT SOMEONE WHO IS PERHAPS NOT A Ph.D. COULD OPERATE A BOX LIKE SOMEONE WHO IS PERHAPS NOT A Ph.D. COULD OPERATE A BOX LIKE WE HAVE.
Ph.D. COULD OPERATE A BOX LIKE WE HAVE.
SO IF THE SOFTWARE EVER GOT OUT WE HAVE.
SO IF THE SOFTWARE EVER GOT OUT ON TO THE INTERNET OR IF SOMEONE SO IF THE SOFTWARE EVER GOT OUT ON TO THE INTERNET OR IF SOMEONE ELSE REPLICATED THE BOX THEN IT ON TO THE INTERNET OR IF SOMEONE ELSE REPLICATED THE BOX THEN IT WOULDN'T TAKE A P.H.D.
TO RUN ELSE REPLICATED THE BOX THEN IT WOULDN'T TAKE A P.H.D.
TO RUN THE THING.
WOULDN'T TAKE A P.H.D.
TO RUN THE THING.
>> Brown: SO PICK UP ON THIS THE THING.
>> Brown: SO PICK UP ON THIS REQUEST WHERE OF WHERE THE >> Brown: SO PICK UP ON THIS REQUEST WHERE OF WHERE THE VULNERABILITIES ARE AND USING REQUEST WHERE OF WHERE THE VULNERABILITIES ARE AND USING THE RESEARCH YOU'VE BEEN DOING, VULNERABILITIES ARE AND USING THE RESEARCH YOU'VE BEEN DOING, HOW WOULD ONE PROTECT THOSE?
THE RESEARCH YOU'VE BEEN DOING, HOW WOULD ONE PROTECT THOSE?
>> WELL, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO HOW WOULD ONE PROTECT THOSE?
>> WELL, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO PROTECTIONS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF >> WELL, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO PROTECTIONS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, CORNELL UNIVERSITY, PROTECTIONS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, CORNELL UNIVERSITY, STANFORD, MANY OTHER AGENCIES TEXAS, CORNELL UNIVERSITY, STANFORD, MANY OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THE GLOBE.
STANFORD, MANY OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THE GLOBE.
WHAT WE'VE FOUND OVER THE LAST ACROSS THE GLOBE.
WHAT WE'VE FOUND OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IS THAT THE MOST WHAT WE'VE FOUND OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IS THAT THE MOST PRACTICAL PROTECTIONS ARE ALSO COUPLE YEARS IS THAT THE MOST PRACTICAL PROTECTIONS ARE ALSO THE LEAST EFFECTIVE AND THE PRACTICAL PROTECTIONS ARE ALSO THE LEAST EFFECTIVE AND THE LEAST EXPENSIVE AND SO FORTH.
THE LEAST EFFECTIVE AND THE LEAST EXPENSIVE AND SO FORTH.
BUT TIM PRACTICAL, SOMEWHAT LEAST EXPENSIVE AND SO FORTH.
BUT TIM PRACTICAL, SOMEWHAT CUMBERSOME PROTECTIONS ARE THE BUT TIM PRACTICAL, SOMEWHAT CUMBERSOME PROTECTIONS ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE.
CUMBERSOME PROTECTIONS ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE.
SO WE HERE IN A BIT OF A MOST EFFECTIVE.
SO WE HERE IN A BIT OF A CONUNDRUM RIGHT NOW BUT I'M SO WE HERE IN A BIT OF A CONUNDRUM RIGHT NOW BUT I'M HOPING THAT WITHIN A COUPLE CONUNDRUM RIGHT NOW BUT I'M HOPING THAT WITHIN A COUPLE YEARS WE'LL FIND A SWEET SPOT, HOPING THAT WITHIN A COUPLE YEARS WE'LL FIND A SWEET SPOT, WE'LL IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT YEARS WE'LL FIND A SWEET SPOT, WE'LL IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT EFFECTIVELY DEFENDS AND DOESN'T WE'LL IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT EFFECTIVELY DEFENDS AND DOESN'T BREAK THE BANK.
EFFECTIVELY DEFENDS AND DOESN'T BREAK THE BANK.
>> Brown: BUT YOUR FEELING IS BREAK THE BANK.
>> Brown: BUT YOUR FEELING IS THAT AT THIS MOMENT IT'S >> Brown: BUT YOUR FEELING IS THAT AT THIS MOMENT IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT, TO DO THAT AT THIS MOMENT IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT, TO DO THE RESEARCH, TO MAKE IT PUBLIC IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT, TO DO THE RESEARCH, TO MAKE IT PUBLIC PRECISELY TO GET TO THAT NEXT THE RESEARCH, TO MAKE IT PUBLIC PRECISELY TO GET TO THAT NEXT STEP?
PRECISELY TO GET TO THAT NEXT STEP?
>> I THINK SO.
STEP?
>> I THINK SO.
I THINK WE'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH >> I THINK SO.
I THINK WE'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH FOR SOLUTIONS TO COME ABOUT ON I THINK WE'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH FOR SOLUTIONS TO COME ABOUT ON THEIR OWN.
FOR SOLUTIONS TO COME ABOUT ON THEIR OWN.
NOW IT'S TIME TO GO TO THE THEIR OWN.
NOW IT'S TIME TO GO TO THE PUBLIC, TO EXPOSE THE PROBLEM, NOW IT'S TIME TO GO TO THE PUBLIC, TO EXPOSE THE PROBLEM, AND GET MORE PEOPLE THINKING PUBLIC, TO EXPOSE THE PROBLEM, AND GET MORE PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT IT.
AND GET MORE PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT IT.
>> Brown: MILTON CLARY, I KNOW ABOUT IT.
>> Brown: MILTON CLARY, I KNOW YOU DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE >> Brown: MILTON CLARY, I KNOW YOU DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
YOU DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
WHEN YO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT E DEPARTMENT.
WHEN YO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT E VARIOUS VULNERABILITIES, HOW WHEN YO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT E VARIOUS VULNERABILITIES, HOW MUCH IS IT IN THE MILITARY?
VARIOUS VULNERABILITIES, HOW MUCH IS IT IN THE MILITARY?
>> WELL, THE MILITARY G.P.S.
IS MUCH IS IT IN THE MILITARY?
>> WELL, THE MILITARY G.P.S.
IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SYSTEM >> WELL, THE MILITARY G.P.S.
IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAN WHAT THE CIVILIANS USE.
A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAN WHAT THE CIVILIANS USE.
IT HAS A MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN WHAT THE CIVILIANS USE.
IT HAS A MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED SIGNAL STRUCTURE AND A IN ITSELF IT HAS A MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED SIGNAL STRUCTURE AND A IN ITSELF IS EMBEDDED IN A VERY SIGNAL STRUCTURE AND A IN ITSELF IS EMBEDDED IN A VERY SOPHISTICATED ENCRYPTION.
IS EMBEDDED IN A VERY SOPHISTICATED ENCRYPTION.
SO TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE SOPHISTICATED ENCRYPTION.
SO TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE SIGNAL AND FOOL IT, YOU CAN'T SO TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE SIGNAL AND FOOL IT, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THERE.
SIGNAL AND FOOL IT, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THERE.
IT'S -- TO REALLIES ME WITH IN EVEN GET THERE.
IT'S -- TO REALLIES ME WITH IN THE THE WAY THAT DR. HUMPHRIES IT'S -- TO REALLIES ME WITH IN THE THE WAY THAT DR. HUMPHRIES HAS DONE.
THE THE WAY THAT DR. HUMPHRIES HAS DONE.
NOW, AS FAR AS TRYING TO GIVE HAS DONE.
NOW, AS FAR AS TRYING TO GIVE OURSELVES SOME RESILIENCE, ONE NOW, AS FAR AS TRYING TO GIVE OURSELVES SOME RESILIENCE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST USES OF G.P.S.
IS OURSELVES SOME RESILIENCE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST USES OF G.P.S.
IS NOT THE POSITION DATA BUT THE OF THE BIGGEST USES OF G.P.S.
IS NOT THE POSITION DATA BUT THE TIMING INFORMATION.
NOT THE POSITION DATA BUT THE TIMING INFORMATION.
AND THERE'S COUNTRIES -- UNITED TIMING INFORMATION.
AND THERE'S COUNTRIES -- UNITED KINGDOM, JAPAN AND KOREA ALL AND THERE'S COUNTRIES -- UNITED KINGDOM, JAPAN AND KOREA ALL HAVE A SYSTEM CALLEDDED LORAN, KINGDOM, JAPAN AND KOREA ALL HAVE A SYSTEM CALLEDDED LORAN, AN AMERICAN INVESTIGATION SYSTEM HAVE A SYSTEM CALLEDDED LORAN, AN AMERICAN INVESTIGATION SYSTEM THAT GOES BACK TO THE '40s AND AN AMERICAN INVESTIGATION SYSTEM THAT GOES BACK TO THE '40s AND THEY'RE BUILDING AN ENHANCED THAT GOES BACK TO THE '40s AND THEY'RE BUILDING AN ENHANCED LORAN THAT WILL PROVIDE TIMING THEY'RE BUILDING AN ENHANCED LORAN THAT WILL PROVIDE TIMING SYSTEMS AS A BACKUP AND THAT LORAN THAT WILL PROVIDE TIMING SYSTEMS AS A BACKUP AND THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO SYSTEMS AS A BACKUP AND THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO JAM.
WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO JAM.
>> Brown: SO COUNTRIES, JAM.
>> Brown: SO COUNTRIES, COMPANIES, EVERYBODY'S WATCHING >> Brown: SO COUNTRIES, COMPANIES, EVERYBODY'S WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW.
COMPANIES, EVERYBODY'S WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THIS RIGHT NOW.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT IT OR WORK IN IT PAY >> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT IT OR WORK IN IT PAY CLOSE ATTENTION.
CARE ABOUT IT OR WORK IN IT PAY CLOSE ATTENTION.
>> Brown: FASCINATING STUFF.
CLOSE ATTENTION.
>> Brown: FASCINATING STUFF.
MILTON CLARY, TODD HUMPHREY, >> Brown: FASCINATING STUFF.
MILTON CLARY, TODD HUMPHREY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MILTON CLARY, TODD HUMPHREY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
I ENJOYED BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
I ENJOYED BEING HERE.
CARRY.
>> Woodruff: AGAIN, THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OF THE DAY: THE U.S. ECONOMY ADDED 162,000 DEVELOPMENTS OF THE DAY: THE U.S. ECONOMY ADDED 162,000 JOBS IN JULY, NOT AS MANY AS THE U.S. ECONOMY ADDED 162,000 JOBS IN JULY, NOT AS MANY AS EXPECTED.
JOBS IN JULY, NOT AS MANY AS EXPECTED.
AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED EXPECTED.
AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL TRAVEL ALERT FOR AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A GLOBAL TRAVEL ALERT FOR AMERICANS, CITING A THREAT FROM A GLOBAL TRAVEL ALERT FOR AMERICANS, CITING A THREAT FROM AL QAEDA.
AMERICANS, CITING A THREAT FROM AL QAEDA.
A NOTE BEFORE WE GO.
AL QAEDA.
A NOTE BEFORE WE GO.
LAST NIGHT, WE INTERVIEWED A NOTE BEFORE WE GO.
LAST NIGHT, WE INTERVIEWED MICHAEL CHERTOFF ABOUT OUTGOING LAST NIGHT, WE INTERVIEWED MICHAEL CHERTOFF ABOUT OUTGOING FBI DIRECTOR ROBERT MUELLER.
MICHAEL CHERTOFF ABOUT OUTGOING FBI DIRECTOR ROBERT MUELLER.
WE SHOULD HAVE SAID FOR THE FBI DIRECTOR ROBERT MUELLER.
WE SHOULD HAVE SAID FOR THE RECORD THAT CHERTOFF IS CHAIRMAN WE SHOULD HAVE SAID FOR THE RECORD THAT CHERTOFF IS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR RECORD THAT CHERTOFF IS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR B.A.E.
SYSTEMS, A "NEWSHOUR" OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR B.A.E.
SYSTEMS, A "NEWSHOUR" UNDERWRITER.
B.A.E.
SYSTEMS, A "NEWSHOUR" UNDERWRITER.
>> Brown: ONLINE, LEON PANETTA UNDERWRITER.
>> Brown: ONLINE, LEON PANETTA KWAME HOLMAN TEL US LSMORE.
>> Brown: ONLINE, LEON PANETTA KWAME HOLMAN TEL US LSMORE.
>> Holman: RAY TALKED TO FORMER KWAME HOLMAN TEL US LSMORE.
>> Holman: RAY TALKED TO FORMER C.I.A.
DIRECTOR AND DEFENSE >> Holman: RAY TALKED TO FORMER C.I.A.
DIRECTOR AND DEFENSE SECRETARY.
C.I.A.
DIRECTOR AND DEFENSE SECRETARY.
PANETTA TODAY ABOUT HOW ROBERT SECRETARY.
PANETTA TODAY ABOUT HOW ROBERT MUELLER HELPED TRANSFORM THE PANETTA TODAY ABOUT HOW ROBERT MUELLER HELPED TRANSFORM THE FBI, AND THE INCREASING MUELLER HELPED TRANSFORM THE FBI, AND THE INCREASING AND PAUL SOLMAN HAS MORE ON FBI, AND THE INCREASING AND PAUL SOLMAN HAS MORE ON TODAY'S JOBS NUMBERS INCLUDING AND PAUL SOLMAN HAS MORE ON TODAY'S JOBS NUMBERS INCLUDING THAT'S ON MAKING SENSE.
TODAY'S JOBS NUMBERS INCLUDING THAT'S ON MAKING SENSE.
ALL THAT AND MORE IS ON OUR THAT'S ON MAKING SENSE.
ALL THAT AND MORE IS ON OUR WEBSITE newshour.pbs.org.
ALL THAT AND MORE IS ON OUR WEBSITE newshour.pbs.org.
JUDY?
WEBSITE newshour.pbs.org.
JUDY?
>> Woodruff: AND THAT'S THE JUDY?
>> Woodruff: AND THAT'S THE "NEWSHOUR" FOR TONIGHT.
>> Woodruff: AND THAT'S THE "NEWSHOUR" FOR TONIGHT.
ON MONDAY, WE'LL LOOK AT MAJOR "NEWSHOUR" FOR TONIGHT.
ON MONDAY, WE'LL LOOK AT MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL'S NEGOTIATIONS ON MONDAY, WE'LL LOOK AT MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL'S NEGOTIATIONS TO PENALIZE PLAYERS THAT DOPED.
LEAGUE BASEBALL'S NEGOTIATIONS TO PENALIZE PLAYERS THAT DOPED.
I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.
TO PENALIZE PLAYERS THAT DOPED.
I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.
>> Brown: AND I'M JEFFREY BROWN.
I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.
>> Brown: AND I'M JEFFREY BROWN.
"WASHINGTON WEEK" CAN BE SEEN >> Brown: AND I'M JEFFREY BROWN.
"WASHINGTON WEEK" CAN BE SEEN LATER THIS EVENING ON MOST "WASHINGTON WEEK" CAN BE SEEN LATER THIS EVENING ON MOST PBS STATIONS.
LATER THIS EVENING ON MOST PBS STATIONS.
WE'LL SEE YOU ONLINE AND AGAIN PBS STATIONS.
WE'LL SEE YOU ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE MONDAY EVENING.
WE'LL SEE YOU ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE MONDAY EVENING.
HAVE A NICE WEEKEND.
HERE MONDAY EVENING.
HAVE A NICE WEEKEND.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
HAVE A NICE WEEKEND.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
GOODNIGHT.
