GWEN: WE ARE CHOCK-FULL TONIGHT WITH TALES OF DEAL MAKING, DIPLOMACY AND REDEMPTION.
WITH TALES OF DEAL MAKING, DIPLOMACY AND REDEMPTION.
TONIGHT ON "WAINGTSHON WEEK" -- DIPLOMACY AND REDEMPTION.
TONIGHT ON "WAINGTSHON WEEK" -- THE HOUSE WRESTLES WITH THE TONIGHT ON "WAINGTSHON WEEK" -- THE HOUSE WRESTLES WITH THE HOWS AND WHYS OF IMMIGRATION.
THE HOUSE WRESTLES WITH THE HOWS AND WHYS OF IMMIGRATION.
>> WHY?
HOWS AND WHYS OF IMMIGRATION.
>> WHY?
WHY DO WE NEED TO DELAY?
>> WHY?
WHY DO WE NEED TO DELAY?
>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THE WHY DO WE NEED TO DELAY?
>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THE SENATE BILL.
>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THE SENATE BILL.
GWEN: WHILE SLICING MONEY FOR SENATE BILL.
GWEN: WHILE SLICING MONEY FOR NUTRITION OGRAPRMS OUT OF A BIG GWEN: WHILE SLICING MONEY FOR NUTRITION OGRAPRMS OUT OF A BIG FARM BILL.
NUTRITION OGRAPRMS OUT OF A BIG FARM BILL.
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION FARM BILL.
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SEARCHES FOR A DIPLOMATIC THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SEARCHES FOR A DIPLOMATIC RESOLUTION IN EGYPT.
SEARCHES FOR A DIPLOMATIC RESOLUTION IN EGYPT.
>> THERE IS A CRISIS IN EGYPT.
RESOLUTION IN EGYPT.
>> THERE IS A CRISIS IN EGYPT.
GWEN: AND THE POLITICS AT HOME >> THERE IS A CRISIS IN EGYPT.
GWEN: AND THE POLITICS AT HOME HAVE COMPLICATED.
GWEN: AND THE POLITICS AT HOME HAVE COMPLICATED.
N TAS,EX WHERE THE UPROAR OVER HAVE COMPLICATED.
N TAS,EX WHERE THE UPROAR OVER ABORTION RIGHTS HAVE SPREAD TO N TAS,EX WHERE THE UPROAR OVER ABORTION RIGHTS HAVE SPREAD TO OTHER STATES, AS IN NEW YORK, ABORTION RIGHTS HAVE SPREAD TO OTHER STATES, AS IN NEW YORK, WHERE VOTERS ARE BEING ASKED TO OTHER STATES, AS IN NEW YORK, WHERE VOTERS ARE BEING ASKED TO TEST THEIR POWERS OF WHERE VOTERS ARE BEING ASKED TO TEST THEIR POWERS OF FORGIVENESS.
TEST THEIR POWERS OF FORGIVENESS.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AGAIN.
FORGIVENESS.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AGAIN.
GWEN: COVERING THE WEEK, ALAN >> I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AGAIN.
GWEN: COVERING THE WEEK, ALAN GOMEZ OF "USA TODAY," PETER GWEN: COVERING THE WEEK, ALAN GOMEZ OF "USA TODAY," PETER BAKER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES."
GOMEZ OF "USA TODAY," PETER BAKER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES."
KAREN TUMULTY OF THE BAKER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES."
KAREN TUMULTY OF THE "WASHINGTON POST," AND BETH KAREN TUMULTY OF THE "WASHINGTON POST," AND BETH REINHARD OF "NATIONAL JOURNAL."
"WASHINGTON POST," AND BETH REINHARD OF "NATIONAL JOURNAL."
>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND REINHARD OF "NATIONAL JOURNAL."
>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS.
>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS.
COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPNS.
PE ANALYSIS.
COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPNS.
PE LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPNS.
PE LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN IFILL."
ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
THE ACTION ON CAPITOL HILL GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
THE ACTION ON CAPITOL HILL TURNED TO THE HOUSE THIS WEEK, THE ACTION ON CAPITOL HILL TURNED TO THE HOUSE THIS WEEK, WHICH MOVED ON TO TWO ISSUES TURNED TO THE HOUSE THIS WEEK, WHICH MOVED ON TO TWO ISSUES THAT COULD AFFECT THE LIVES OF WHICH MOVED ON TO TWO ISSUES THAT COULD AFFECT THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS.
THAT COULD AFFECT THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS.
ON IMMIGRATION REFORM, TAKING A THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS.
ON IMMIGRATION REFORM, TAKING A SHARPLY DIVERGE END PATH FROM ON IMMIGRATION REFORM, TAKING A SHARPLY DIVERGE END PATH FROM THEIR ESTIMATE COLLEAGUES.
SHARPLY DIVERGE END PATH FROM THEIR ESTIMATE COLLEAGUES.
>> IT'S CLEAR THAT DEALING WITH THEIR ESTIMATE COLLEAGUES.
>> IT'S CLEAR THAT DEALING WITH IN THIS BITE-SIZED CHURCHES >> IT'S CLEAR THAT DEALING WITH IN THIS BITE-SIZED CHURCHES THAT MEMBERS AND THE AMERICAN IN THIS BITE-SIZED CHURCHES THAT MEMBERS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN DIGEST IS THE THAT MEMBERS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN DIGEST IS THE SMARTEST WAY TO GO.
PEOPLE CAN DIGEST IS THE SMARTEST WAY TO GO.
I'M MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SMARTEST WAY TO GO.
I'M MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT DOING IT RIGHT THAN IN MEETING I'M MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT DOING IT RIGHT THAN IN MEETING SOME DEADLINE.
DOING IT RIGHT THAN IN MEETING SOME DEADLINE.
>> WHEN YOU PLAY FOOTBALL, YOU SOME DEADLINE.
>> WHEN YOU PLAY FOOTBALL, YOU DON'T PLAY TO GET TO THE >> WHEN YOU PLAY FOOTBALL, YOU DON'T PLAY TO GET TO THE 10-YARD LINE AND THEN QUIT.
DON'T PLAY TO GET TO THE 10-YARD LINE AND THEN QUIT.
YOU PLAY TO MAKE THE TOUCHDOWN 10-YARD LINE AND THEN QUIT.
YOU PLAY TO MAKE THE TOUCHDOWN AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE YOU PLAY TO MAKE THE TOUCHDOWN AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING US TO SCORE.
AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING US TO SCORE.
GWEN: AND THE FARM BILL PASSED EXPECTING US TO SCORE.
GWEN: AND THE FARM BILL PASSED BUT ONLY AFTER THE FOOD STAMP GWEN: AND THE FARM BILL PASSED BUT ONLY AFTER THE FOOD STAMP FUNDING IT CANED FOR FOUR BUT ONLY AFTER THE FOOD STAMP FUNDING IT CANED FOR FOUR DEAKEDS WAS STRIPPED AWAY.
FUNDING IT CANED FOR FOUR DEAKEDS WAS STRIPPED AWAY.
THAT SPARKED A SECONDARY FIGHT.
DEAKEDS WAS STRIPPED AWAY.
THAT SPARKED A SECONDARY FIGHT.
>> WHAT IS IT ABOUT POOR PEOPLE THAT SPARKED A SECONDARY FIGHT.
>> WHAT IS IT ABOUT POOR PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T LIKE AND DON'T >> WHAT IS IT ABOUT POOR PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T LIKE AND DON'T WANT TO FIELD THEIR FAMILIES?
THAT YOU DON'T LIKE AND DON'T WANT TO FIELD THEIR FAMILIES?
>> I WANT TO SEPARATE IT OUT.
WANT TO FIELD THEIR FAMILIES?
>> I WANT TO SEPARATE IT OUT.
AND ONE DAY I WANT TO HAVE ALL >> I WANT TO SEPARATE IT OUT.
AND ONE DAY I WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IN ONE AND ONE DAY I WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IN ONE COMMITTEE WHERE WE CAN SEE ALL OF THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IN ONE COMMITTEE WHERE WE CAN SEE ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE REDUNDANT.
COMMITTEE WHERE WE CAN SEE ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE REDUNDANT.
GWEN: FIRST TO THE IMMIGRATION OF THE ONES THAT ARE REDUNDANT.
GWEN: FIRST TO THE IMMIGRATION BATTLE.
GWEN: FIRST TO THE IMMIGRATION BATTLE.
WHERE DOES THAT STAND TONIGHT, BATTLE.
WHERE DOES THAT STAND TONIGHT, ALAN?
WHERE DOES THAT STAND TONIGHT, ALAN?
>> IN A PRETTY PRECARIOUS ALAN?
>> IN A PRETTY PRECARIOUS SITUATION.
>> IN A PRETTY PRECARIOUS SITUATION.
THE ESTIMATE -- SENATE HAS SITUATION.
THE ESTIMATE -- SENATE HAS PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE BILL.
THE ESTIMATE -- SENATE HAS PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE BILL.
PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE BILL.
PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.
PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.
A LOT OF BORDER SECURITY.
UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.
A LOT OF BORDER SECURITY.
NEW VISAS.
A LOT OF BORDER SECURITY.
NEW VISAS.
THE HOUSE IS TAKING A NEW VISAS.
THE HOUSE IS TAKING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TACK.
THE HOUSE IS TAKING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TACK.
THEY'RE GOING PIECE BY PIECE.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TACK.
THEY'RE GOING PIECE BY PIECE.
THE HOMELAND SECURITY HAS THEY'RE GOING PIECE BY PIECE.
THE HOMELAND SECURITY HAS PASSED A BILL ON BORDER THE HOMELAND SECURITY HAS PASSED A BILL ON BORDER SECURITY.
PASSED A BILL ON BORDER SECURITY.
THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAS SECURITY.
THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAS PASSED BILLS ON HIGH-TECH AND THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAS PASSED BILLS ON HIGH-TECH AND AGRICULTURAL VISAS.
PASSED BILLS ON HIGH-TECH AND AGRICULTURAL VISAS.
BUT THROUGHOUT THIS NOBODY HAS AGRICULTURAL VISAS.
BUT THROUGHOUT THIS NOBODY HAS SO MUCH AS FILED A BILL THAT BUT THROUGHOUT THIS NOBODY HAS SO MUCH AS FILED A BILL THAT DEALS WITH THE PATHWAY TO SO MUCH AS FILED A BILL THAT DEALS WITH THE PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP.
DEALS WITH THE PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP.
THAT SHOWS HOW UNCOMFORTABLE CITIZENSHIP.
THAT SHOWS HOW UNCOMFORTABLE THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ON THAT SHOWS HOW UNCOMFORTABLE THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ON THIS ISSUE.
THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ON THIS ISSUE.
GWEN: BUT THE SENATE HAD COME THIS ISSUE.
GWEN: BUT THE SENATE HAD COME OUT WITH A BILL THAT HAD SO GWEN: BUT THE SENATE HAD COME OUT WITH A BILL THAT HAD SO MUCH MONEY, SO MUCH ATTENTION OUT WITH A BILL THAT HAD SO MUCH MONEY, SO MUCH ATTENTION PAID TO BORDER SECURITY THAT MUCH MONEY, SO MUCH ATTENTION PAID TO BORDER SECURITY THAT PEOPLE WERE JOKING ABOUT HOW PAID TO BORDER SECURITY THAT PEOPLE WERE JOKING ABOUT HOW MANY BORDER SECURITY THERE WAS PEOPLE WERE JOKING ABOUT HOW MANY BORDER SECURITY THERE WAS GOING TO BE AND THAT'S NOT MANY BORDER SECURITY THERE WAS GOING TO BE AND THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE IN THE HOUSE?
GOING TO BE AND THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE IN THE HOUSE?
>> IN THE SENATE I THINK THEY ACCEPTABLE IN THE HOUSE?
>> IN THE SENATE I THINK THEY EVEN DESCRIBED IT AS OVERKILL >> IN THE SENATE I THINK THEY EVEN DESCRIBED IT AS OVERKILL IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY WERE EVEN DESCRIBED IT AS OVERKILL IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY WERE DEDICATING TO THE BORDER.
IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY WERE DEDICATING TO THE BORDER.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DEDICATING TO THE BORDER.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DEBATE, EVERYONE KIND OF AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DEBATE, EVERYONE KIND OF THOUGHT WE'D BE WHERE WE ARE DEBATE, EVERYONE KIND OF THOUGHT WE'D BE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
THOUGHT WE'D BE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE, WHICH RIGHT NOW.
REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE, WHICH DESPITE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE, WHICH DESPITE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR FROM THEM ABOUT WANTING DESPITE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR FROM THEM ABOUT WANTING HISPANIC VOTERS, REPUBLICANS IN FROM THEM ABOUT WANTING HISPANIC VOTERS, REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE INDIVIDUALLY DON'T HISPANIC VOTERS, REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE INDIVIDUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH INCENTIVE FOR THE HOUSE INDIVIDUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH INCENTIVE FOR ANYTHING THAT PROVIDES A HAVE THAT MUCH INCENTIVE FOR ANYTHING THAT PROVIDES A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP.
ANYTHING THAT PROVIDES A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP.
THEY HAD A MEETING TO TALK PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP.
THEY HAD A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION.
THEY HAD A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION.
THAT WAS ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
ABOUT IMMIGRATION.
THAT WAS ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
HOW TO FIGURE IT OUT, HOW TO THAT WAS ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
HOW TO FIGURE IT OUT, HOW TO PROCEED.
HOW TO FIGURE IT OUT, HOW TO PROCEED.
>> THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR PROCEED.
>> THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA.
>> THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA.
IT'S A LEGACY ISSUE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA.
IT'S A LEGACY ISSUE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA.
IT'S A LEGACY ISSUE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA.
WHAT CAN HE DO GIVEN THE PRESIDENT OBAMA.
WHAT CAN HE DO GIVEN THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE?
WHAT CAN HE DO GIVEN THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE?
DOES IT HELP IF HE GETS REPUBLICAN HOUSE?
DOES IT HELP IF HE GETS INVOLVED AND STARTS MAKING THE DOES IT HELP IF HE GETS INVOLVED AND STARTS MAKING THE CASE WITH THIS WITH THE PUBLIC INVOLVED AND STARTS MAKING THE CASE WITH THIS WITH THE PUBLIC OR DOES IT DRIVE THEM FURTHER CASE WITH THIS WITH THE PUBLIC OR DOES IT DRIVE THEM FURTHER AWAY?
OR DOES IT DRIVE THEM FURTHER AWAY?
>> IN THE SENATE, YOU SAW THE AWAY?
>> IN THE SENATE, YOU SAW THE PRESIDENT AND THE >> IN THE SENATE, YOU SAW THE PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION TAKING A BACK PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION TAKING A BACK SEAT.
ADMINISTRATION TAKING A BACK SEAT.
THEY LED THE SENATORS TAKE ON SEAT.
THEY LED THE SENATORS TAKE ON THE CONVERSATION.
THEY LED THE SENATORS TAKE ON THE CONVERSATION.
THEY WERE INFLUENCING FROM THE CONVERSATION.
THEY WERE INFLUENCING FROM BEHIND THE SCENES BUT THERE WAS THEY WERE INFLUENCING FROM BEHIND THE SCENES BUT THERE WAS NO PUBLIC DISPLAY.
BEHIND THE SCENES BUT THERE WAS NO PUBLIC DISPLAY.
THAT'S CHANGED COMPLETELY IN NO PUBLIC DISPLAY.
THAT'S CHANGED COMPLETELY IN THE HOUSE.
THAT'S CHANGED COMPLETELY IN THE HOUSE.
THE PRESIDENT MET WITH THE THE HOUSE.
THE PRESIDENT MET WITH THE HISPANIC CAUCUS -- CAUCUS A FEW THE PRESIDENT MET WITH THE HISPANIC CAUCUS -- CAUCUS A FEW DAYS AGO AND THAT WAS ONE OF HISPANIC CAUCUS -- CAUCUS A FEW DAYS AGO AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MESSAGES, GET OUT AND PUSH DAYS AGO AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MESSAGES, GET OUT AND PUSH THIS TO THE HOUSE.
THE MESSAGES, GET OUT AND PUSH THIS TO THE HOUSE.
>> WHAT ABOUT JANET NAPOLITANO?
THIS TO THE HOUSE.
>> WHAT ABOUT JANET NAPOLITANO?
ANNOUNCED TODAY SHE'S LEAVING >> WHAT ABOUT JANET NAPOLITANO?
ANNOUNCED TODAY SHE'S LEAVING TO HEAD THE UNIVERSITY OF ANNOUNCED TODAY SHE'S LEAVING TO HEAD THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SYSTEM.
TO HEAD THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SYSTEM.
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND CALIFORNIA SYSTEM.
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS BEEN A VIGOROUS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS BEEN A VIGOROUS PLAYER IN THE IMMIGRATION SECURITY HAS BEEN A VIGOROUS PLAYER IN THE IMMIGRATION DEBATE.
PLAYER IN THE IMMIGRATION DEBATE.
A LOT OF DEPORTATIONS BUT ALSO DEBATE.
A LOT OF DEPORTATIONS BUT ALSO ENACTING THE DREAM ACT A LOT OF DEPORTATIONS BUT ALSO ENACTING THE DREAM ACT EXECUTIVE ACTIONS.
ENACTING THE DREAM ACT EXECUTIVE ACTIONS.
WHAT DOES HER DEPARTURE MEAN?
EXECUTIVE ACTIONS.
WHAT DOES HER DEPARTURE MEAN?
>> SHE'S BEEN THE SALESPERSON WHAT DOES HER DEPARTURE MEAN?
>> SHE'S BEEN THE SALESPERSON FOR THIS BILL.
>> SHE'S BEEN THE SALESPERSON FOR THIS BILL.
SHE'S TESTIFIED BEFORE ALL FOR THIS BILL.
SHE'S TESTIFIED BEFORE ALL SORTS OF COMMITTEES THAT DEAL SHE'S TESTIFIED BEFORE ALL SORTS OF COMMITTEES THAT DEAL WITH BORDER SECURITY.
SORTS OF COMMITTEES THAT DEAL WITH BORDER SECURITY.
WITH BORDER SECURITY.
CITIZENSHIP, VISAS, EVERYTHING, CITIZENSHIP, VISAS, EVERYTHING, I.C.E.
, CUSTOMS PROTECTION IS UNDER I.C.E.
, CUSTOMS PROTECTION IS UNDER HERE.
, CUSTOMS PROTECTION IS UNDER HERE.
THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING HERE.
THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TIME.
THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TIME.
ON THE ONE HAND, REPUBLICANS, TIME.
ON THE ONE HAND, REPUBLICANS, NOT THE BIGGEST FANS OF HER ON THE ONE HAND, REPUBLICANS, NOT THE BIGGEST FANS OF HER RECORD SO FAR.
NOT THE BIGGEST FANS OF HER RECORD SO FAR.
SO IN SOME SENSE IT MIGHT GIVE RECORD SO FAR.
SO IN SOME SENSE IT MIGHT GIVE SOME COVER TO ALLOW THEM TO SO IN SOME SENSE IT MIGHT GIVE SOME COVER TO ALLOW THEM TO MAYBE GET ON BOARD ON ON THE SOME COVER TO ALLOW THEM TO MAYBE GET ON BOARD ON ON THE OTHER HAND WE'RE GOING TO FACE MAYBE GET ON BOARD ON ON THE OTHER HAND WE'RE GOING TO FACE A NOMINATION FOR A NEW OTHER HAND WE'RE GOING TO FACE A NOMINATION FOR A NEW DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY A NOMINATION FOR A NEW DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THAT WOULD -- THAT COULD DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THAT WOULD -- THAT COULD MUDDLEHING TS UP MORE.
AND THAT WOULD -- THAT COULD MUDDLEHING TS UP MORE.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.
MUDDLEHING TS UP MORE.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.
>> YOU MENTIONED HOUSE WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.
>> YOU MENTIONED HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT FEELING THE >> YOU MENTIONED HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT FEELING THE SAME PRESSURE THAT REPUBLICAN REPUBLICANS ARE NOT FEELING THE SAME PRESSURE THAT REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADERS ARE FEELING ON A SAME PRESSURE THAT REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADERS ARE FEELING ON A NATIONAL LEVEL REGARDING PARTY LEADERS ARE FEELING ON A NATIONAL LEVEL REGARDING HISPANIC VOTERS.
NATIONAL LEVEL REGARDING HISPANIC VOTERS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS?
HISPANIC VOTERS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS?
>> UH, YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS?
>> UH, YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND THE AVERAGE REPUBLICAN >> UH, YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND THE AVERAGE REPUBLICAN HOUSE DISTRICT, IS 75% WHITE.
AND THE AVERAGE REPUBLICAN HOUSE DISTRICT, IS 75% WHITE.
THE AVERAGE DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT HOUSE DISTRICT, IS 75% WHITE.
THE AVERAGE DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT IS ABOUT 50% QUHITHE AND A LOT THE AVERAGE DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT IS ABOUT 50% QUHITHE AND A LOT OF THE MINORITY REPRESENTATION IS ABOUT 50% QUHITHE AND A LOT OF THE MINORITY REPRESENTATION FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAS COME OF THE MINORITY REPRESENTATION FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAS COME FROM BIG MINORITY DISTRICTS.
FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAS COME FROM BIG MINORITY DISTRICTS.
TEXAS, CALIFORNIA, PLACES LIKE FROM BIG MINORITY DISTRICTS.
TEXAS, CALIFORNIA, PLACES LIKE THAT.
TEXAS, CALIFORNIA, PLACES LIKE THAT.
THAT.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT DISTRICTS THEY'RE LOOKING AT DISTRICTS THAT ARE MAYBE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5% MINORITIES.
THAT ARE MAYBE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5% MINORITIES.
A, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MINORITIES.
A, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NSTITUENTS TELLING THEM THEY A, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NSTITUENTS TELLING THEM THEY NEED TO GET IN DONE.
NSTITUENTS TELLING THEM THEY NEED TO GET IN DONE.
>> -- NEED TO GET IN DONE.
>> -- GWEN: BUT THE FARM BILL, WHICH >> -- GWEN: BUT THE FARM BILL, WHICH ALSO PLAYED OUT THIS WEEK.
GWEN: BUT THE FARM BILL, WHICH ALSO PLAYED OUT THIS WEEK.
IT'S NOT THAT ONLY PEOPLE OF ALSO PLAYED OUT THIS WEEK.
IT'S NOT THAT ONLY PEOPLE OF COLOR GET FOOD STAMPS BUT THE IT'S NOT THAT ONLY PEOPLE OF COLOR GET FOOD STAMPS BUT THE FOOD STAMPS ISSUE IS REALLY COLOR GET FOOD STAMPS BUT THE FOOD STAMPS ISSUE IS REALLY DIVIDING THE REPUBLICAN CAW FOOD STAMPS ISSUE IS REALLY DIVIDING THE REPUBLICAN CAW CULLS AS WELL AS REPUBLICANS DIVIDING THE REPUBLICAN CAW CULLS AS WELL AS REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS.
CULLS AS WELL AS REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS.
>> THAT IS A REALLY TOUGH ONE.
AND DEMOCRATS.
>> THAT IS A REALLY TOUGH ONE.
FOR 40 YEARS THEY'VE TIDE FARM >> THAT IS A REALLY TOUGH ONE.
FOR 40 YEARS THEY'VE TIDE FARM SUBSIDIES TO FOOD STAMPS IN AN FOR 40 YEARS THEY'VE TIDE FARM SUBSIDIES TO FOOD STAMPS IN AN E. TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH OF SUBSIDIES TO FOOD STAMPS IN AN E. TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE INSULATED SO THEY CAN E. TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE INSULATED SO THEY CAN GET THROUGH CONGRESS EACH YEAR.
THOSE ARE INSULATED SO THEY CAN GET THROUGH CONGRESS EACH YEAR.
WITH THE SENATE ALREADY PASSING GET THROUGH CONGRESS EACH YEAR.
WITH THE SENATE ALREADY PASSING A BILL.
WITH THE SENATE ALREADY PASSING A BILL.
THE HOUSE BROKE IT INTO TWO.
A BILL.
THE HOUSE BROKE IT INTO TWO.
THAT'S PUT BOTH INTO JEOPARDY.
THE HOUSE BROKE IT INTO TWO.
THAT'S PUT BOTH INTO JEOPARDY.
SO FAR THEY'VE SAID -- THE THAT'S PUT BOTH INTO JEOPARDY.
SO FAR THEY'VE SAID -- THE HOUSE PASSED THIS WEEK A BILL SO FAR THEY'VE SAID -- THE HOUSE PASSED THIS WEEK A BILL SOLELY FOR THE FARM SUBSIDIES HOUSE PASSED THIS WEEK A BILL SOLELY FOR THE FARM SUBSIDIES AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO GET SOLELY FOR THE FARM SUBSIDIES AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO FOOD STAMPS BUT WE'LL AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO FOOD STAMPS BUT WE'LL WAIT.
BACK TO FOOD STAMPS BUT WE'LL WAIT.
GWEN: THANKS A LOT, ALLEN.
WAIT.
GWEN: THANKS A LOT, ALLEN.
IF YOU THINK NEGOTIATIONS IN GWEN: THANKS A LOT, ALLEN.
IF YOU THINK NEGOTIATIONS IN THE HOUSE ARE DIFFICULT, TRY IF YOU THINK NEGOTIATIONS IN THE HOUSE ARE DIFFICULT, TRY TAKING SIDES IN EGYPT.
THE HOUSE ARE DIFFICULT, TRY TAKING SIDES IN EGYPT.
THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TAKING SIDES IN EGYPT.
THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SEARCHING FOR MIDDLE GROUND THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SEARCHING FOR MIDDLE GROUND EVER SINCE DEMOCRATICALLY SEARCHING FOR MIDDLE GROUND EVER SINCE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT MUHAMMAD EVER SINCE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT MUHAMMAD MORSI WAS FORCED FROM POWER.
ELECTED PRESIDENT MUHAMMAD MORSI WAS FORCED FROM POWER.
DEMOCRACY IS FAR MORE MORSI WAS FORCED FROM POWER.
DEMOCRACY IS FAR MORE COMPLICATED.
DEMOCRACY IS FAR MORE COMPLICATED.
THE STATE SPOKESPERSON.
COMPLICATED.
THE STATE SPOKESPERSON.
>> THERE'S BEEN CURVES IN THE THE STATE SPOKESPERSON.
>> THERE'S BEEN CURVES IN THE ROAD, BUMPS IN THE ROAD.
>> THERE'S BEEN CURVES IN THE ROAD, BUMPS IN THE ROAD.
FLAT TIRES, YOU NAME IT, TOO ROAD, BUMPS IN THE ROAD.
FLAT TIRES, YOU NAME IT, TOO LONG WAY.
FLAT TIRES, YOU NAME IT, TOO LONG WAY.
IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK.
LONG WAY.
IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK.
GWEN: THAT'S SOUNDS ALMOST LIKE IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK.
GWEN: THAT'S SOUNDS ALMOST LIKE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
GWEN: THAT'S SOUNDS ALMOST LIKE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
>> I THINK THAT BRIDGE HAS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
>> I THINK THAT BRIDGE HAS CLAMSLED.
>> I THINK THAT BRIDGE HAS CLAMSLED.
WE'RE HEADING INTO THE RAVINE CLAMSLED.
WE'RE HEADING INTO THE RAVINE AT THIS POINT IN EGYPT AND IT'S WE'RE HEADING INTO THE RAVINE AT THIS POINT IN EGYPT AND IT'S TAKING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AT THIS POINT IN EGYPT AND IT'S TAKING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WITH THEM.
TAKING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WITH THEM.
WHAT IS THE RIGHT APPROACH IN WITH THEM.
WHAT IS THE RIGHT APPROACH IN THAT SNIRKS NOBODY IN WHAT IS THE RIGHT APPROACH IN THAT SNIRKS NOBODY IN WASHINGTON WAS ALL THAT THAT SNIRKS NOBODY IN WASHINGTON WAS ALL THAT THRILLLED WITH MUHAMMAD MORSI, WASHINGTON WAS ALL THAT THRILLLED WITH MUHAMMAD MORSI, HE MUSLIM BROTHER HOOD THRILLLED WITH MUHAMMAD MORSI, HE MUSLIM BROTHER HOOD PRESIDENT FOR ONLY ABOUT A HE MUSLIM BROTHER HOOD PRESIDENT FOR ONLY ABOUT A YEAR.
PRESIDENT FOR ONLY ABOUT A YEAR.
HADN'T BEEN VERY INCLUSIVE.
YEAR.
HADN'T BEEN VERY INCLUSIVE.
HADN'T DONE MUCH WITH THE HADN'T BEEN VERY INCLUSIVE.
HADN'T DONE MUCH WITH THE ECONOMY.
HADN'T DONE MUCH WITH THE ECONOMY.
REALLY WASN'T LISTENING TO THE ECONOMY.
REALLY WASN'T LISTENING TO THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
REALLY WASN'T LISTENING TO THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
SEIZELED POWER LAST FALL.
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
SEIZELED POWER LAST FALL.
AND YET, THE IDEA OF THE SEIZELED POWER LAST FALL.
AND YET, THE IDEA OF THE MILITARY KICKING HIM OUT IS A AND YET, THE IDEA OF THE MILITARY KICKING HIM OUT IS A COMPLICATED THING.
MILITARY KICKING HIM OUT IS A COMPLICATED THING.
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THAT KIND COMPLICATED THING.
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF THING?
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF THING?
S THIS A MILITARY COUP OR NOT?
OF THING?
S THIS A MILITARY COUP OR NOT?
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SPENT S THIS A MILITARY COUP OR NOT?
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SPENT ALL WEEK DANCING AROUND THIS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SPENT ALL WEEK DANCING AROUND THIS QUESTION.
ALL WEEK DANCING AROUND THIS QUESTION.
OUNDS LIKE A MILITARY COUP AND QUESTION.
OUNDS LIKE A MILITARY COUP AND LOOKS LIKE ONE.
OUNDS LIKE A MILITARY COUP AND LOOKS LIKE ONE.
$1.5 BILLION IS AT STAKE.
LOOKS LIKE ONE.
$1.5 BILLION IS AT STAKE.
TURNED LAW, IF IT'S A MILITARY $1.5 BILLION IS AT STAKE.
TURNED LAW, IF IT'S A MILITARY COUP, THEY HAVE TO CUT IT OFF.
TURNED LAW, IF IT'S A MILITARY COUP, THEY HAVE TO CUT IT OFF.
GWEN: THE WHITE HOUSE HAD BEEN COUP, THEY HAVE TO CUT IT OFF.
GWEN: THE WHITE HOUSE HAD BEEN AVOIDING ANSWERING THIS GWEN: THE WHITE HOUSE HAD BEEN AVOIDING ANSWERING THIS QUESTION BUT THEY SAID YEAH, AVOIDING ANSWERING THIS QUESTION BUT THEY SAID YEAH, WELL, MAYBE THE MILITARY SHOULD QUESTION BUT THEY SAID YEAH, WELL, MAYBE THE MILITARY SHOULD RELEASE MORSI.
WELL, MAYBE THE MILITARY SHOULD RELEASE MORSI.
WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
RELEASE MORSI.
WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
>> THEY'RE DEALING WITH THIS WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
>> THEY'RE DEALING WITH THIS QUESTION OF THE MONEY TO USE IT >> THEY'RE DEALING WITH THIS QUESTION OF THE MONEY TO USE IT AS LEVERAGE TO SAY LOOK, WE'RE QUESTION OF THE MONEY TO USE IT AS LEVERAGE TO SAY LOOK, WE'RE NOT CUTTING IT OFF THIS SECOND.
AS LEVERAGE TO SAY LOOK, WE'RE NOT CUTTING IT OFF THIS SECOND.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW NOT CUTTING IT OFF THIS SECOND.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW IT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW IT.
IT DEPEND ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING IT.
IT DEPEND ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
IT DEPEND ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
STOP THE VIOLENCE, STOP THE NOW.
STOP THE VIOLENCE, STOP THE ROUND-UPS.
STOP THE VIOLENCE, STOP THE ROUND-UPS.
RELEASE PRESIDENT MORSI AND ROUND-UPS.
RELEASE PRESIDENT MORSI AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN AVOID THE RELEASE PRESIDENT MORSI AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN AVOID THE HAMMER FALLING DOWN.
THEN MAYBE WE CAN AVOID THE HAMMER FALLING DOWN.
>> PETER, ARE YOU SEEING HAMMER FALLING DOWN.
>> PETER, ARE YOU SEEING DIVISIONS BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND >> PETER, ARE YOU SEEING DIVISIONS BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ON THE ISSUE IN DIVISIONS BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ON THE ISSUE IN CONGRESS?
REPUBLICANS ON THE ISSUE IN CONGRESS?
>> GREAT QUESTION.
CONGRESS?
>> GREAT QUESTION.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW ISSUES THAT >> GREAT QUESTION.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW ISSUES THAT DOESN'T CROSS ORDINARY LINES.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW ISSUES THAT DOESN'T CROSS ORDINARY LINES.
REPUBLICANS DON'T TRUST THE DOESN'T CROSS ORDINARY LINES.
REPUBLICANS DON'T TRUST THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
REPUBLICANS DON'T TRUST THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE HOSTILE TO MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE HOSTILE TO HE UNITED STATES, BELIEVE IN THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE HOSTILE TO HE UNITED STATES, BELIEVE IN TYRANNY AND ARE HAPPY THEY'RE HE UNITED STATES, BELIEVE IN TYRANNY AND ARE HAPPY THEY'RE GONE.
TYRANNY AND ARE HAPPY THEY'RE GONE.
THERE ARE OTHER REPUBLICANS WHO GONE.
THERE ARE OTHER REPUBLICANS WHO ARE MORE DEMOCRACY ADVOCATES.
THERE ARE OTHER REPUBLICANS WHO ARE MORE DEMOCRACY ADVOCATES.
NEO CONSERVATIVES AND PROMOTERS ARE MORE DEMOCRACY ADVOCATES.
NEO CONSERVATIVES AND PROMOTERS OF A NEW ORDER IN THE I ARAB NEO CONSERVATIVES AND PROMOTERS OF A NEW ORDER IN THE I ARAB WORLD WHO ARE VERY DISAPPOINTED OF A NEW ORDER IN THE I ARAB WORLD WHO ARE VERY DISAPPOINTED AND THINK THIS WILL CONVINCE WORLD WHO ARE VERY DISAPPOINTED AND THINK THIS WILL CONVINCE THE RADICALS TO BELIEVE THAT AND THINK THIS WILL CONVINCE THE RADICALS TO BELIEVE THAT DEMOCRACY DOESN'T WORK.
THE RADICALS TO BELIEVE THAT DEMOCRACY DOESN'T WORK.
>> IF EGYPT WERE TO LOSE THIS DEMOCRACY DOESN'T WORK.
>> IF EGYPT WERE TO LOSE THIS MONEY.
>> IF EGYPT WERE TO LOSE THIS MONEY.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
MONEY.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
WOULD SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
WOULD SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND GIVE THEM THAT AMOUNT OF AID?
WOULD SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND GIVE THEM THAT AMOUNT OF AID?
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE GIVE THEM THAT AMOUNT OF AID?
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE STABILITY OF EGYPT?
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE STABILITY OF EGYPT?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
STABILITY OF EGYPT?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE GIVE THEM $1.5 BILLION A >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE GIVE THEM $1.5 BILLION A YEAR, THE SECOND HIGHEST AMOUNT WE GIVE THEM $1.5 BILLION A YEAR, THE SECOND HIGHEST AMOUNT WE GIVE TO ANYBODY BEHIND YEAR, THE SECOND HIGHEST AMOUNT WE GIVE TO ANYBODY BEHIND ISRAEL.
WE GIVE TO ANYBODY BEHIND ISRAEL.
AND YET THIS WEEK, THE GULF ISRAEL.
AND YET THIS WEEK, THE GULF STATE OF SAUDI ARABIA AND THE AND YET THIS WEEK, THE GULF STATE OF SAUDI ARABIA AND THE OTHER GULF STATES PLEDGED $12 STATE OF SAUDI ARABIA AND THE OTHER GULF STATES PLEDGED $12 BILLION ON THEIR OWN.
OTHER GULF STATES PLEDGED $12 BILLION ON THEIR OWN.
IN THAT WAY WE'RE BEGINNING TO BILLION ON THEIR OWN.
IN THAT WAY WE'RE BEGINNING TO LOSE OUR INFLUENCE.
IN THAT WAY WE'RE BEGINNING TO LOSE OUR INFLUENCE.
>> PETER, PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS LOSE OUR INFLUENCE.
>> PETER, PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS HAMMERED FOR SUPPORTING MUBAREK >> PETER, PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS HAMMERED FOR SUPPORTING MUBAREK UNTIL THE VERY LAST MOMENT.
HAMMERED FOR SUPPORTING MUBAREK UNTIL THE VERY LAST MOMENT.
WITH MORSI, HE'S BEEN UNTIL THE VERY LAST MOMENT.
WITH MORSI, HE'S BEEN CRITICIZED FOR ALLOWING HIM TO WITH MORSI, HE'S BEEN CRITICIZED FOR ALLOWING HIM TO ACCUMULATE FOR POWER.
CRITICIZED FOR ALLOWING HIM TO ACCUMULATE FOR POWER.
HOW CRITICAL IS IT FOR HIM AND ACCUMULATE FOR POWER.
HOW CRITICAL IS IT FOR HIM AND HOW HE HANDLES THIS SITUATION?
HOW CRITICAL IS IT FOR HIM AND HOW HE HANDLES THIS SITUATION?
>> SINCE MORSI WAS OUSTED, YOU HOW HE HANDLES THIS SITUATION?
>> SINCE MORSI WAS OUSTED, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA >> SINCE MORSI WAS OUSTED, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA SAY ONE WORLD IN PUBLIC THIS HAVEN'T SEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA SAY ONE WORLD IN PUBLIC THIS WEEK.
SAY ONE WORLD IN PUBLIC THIS WEEK.
HE HAD DIFFERENT EVENTS THIS WEEK.
HE HAD DIFFERENT EVENTS THIS WEEK BUT HE'S NOT SAID ONE WORD HE HAD DIFFERENT EVENTS THIS WEEK BUT HE'S NOT SAID ONE WORD IN PUBLIC ABOUT THIS HE WEEK BUT HE'S NOT SAID ONE WORD IN PUBLIC ABOUT THIS HE REALIZES, I THINK, HE DID GET IN PUBLIC ABOUT THIS HE REALIZES, I THINK, HE DID GET IN TROUBLE FOR SEEMING TO BE ON REALIZES, I THINK, HE DID GET IN TROUBLE FOR SEEMING TO BE ON MORSI'S SIDE, FOR NOT DOING IN TROUBLE FOR SEEMING TO BE ON MORSI'S SIDE, FOR NOT DOING ENOUGH TO REIN HIM IN AND HE MORSI'S SIDE, FOR NOT DOING ENOUGH TO REIN HIM IN AND HE THINKS NOW ANYTHING HE DOES CAN ENOUGH TO REIN HIM IN AND HE THINKS NOW ANYTHING HE DOES CAN ONLY MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE.
THINKS NOW ANYTHING HE DOES CAN ONLY MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE.
IT CANNOT LOOK LIKE THE UNITED ONLY MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE.
IT CANNOT LOOK LIKE THE UNITED STATES IS DICTATING EGYPT.
IT CANNOT LOOK LIKE THE UNITED STATES IS DICTATING EGYPT.
GWEN: IS EGYPT STALE LINCHPIN STATES IS DICTATING EGYPT.
GWEN: IS EGYPT STALE LINCHPIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN MANY GWEN: IS EGYPT STALE LINCHPIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN MANY RESPECTS?
IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN MANY RESPECTS?
I NOTICED TODAY THE PRESIDENT RESPECTS?
I NOTICED TODAY THE PRESIDENT CALLED THE LEADER OF SAUDI I NOTICED TODAY THE PRESIDENT CALLED THE LEADER OF SAUDI ARABIA.
CALLED THE LEADER OF SAUDI ARABIA.
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT THAT ARABIA.
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP BE WORKED OUT?
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP BE WORKED OUT?
>> IT REALLY IS DYNAMIC.
RELATIONSHIP BE WORKED OUT?
>> IT REALLY IS DYNAMIC.
EGYPT, AS YOU SAY, IT'S BEEN >> IT REALLY IS DYNAMIC.
EGYPT, AS YOU SAY, IT'S BEEN THE MAIN PARTNER IN THE UNITED EGYPT, AS YOU SAY, IT'S BEEN THE MAIN PARTNER IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE REGION, LARGELY THE MAIN PARTNER IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE REGION, LARGELY BECAUSE OF ITS PEACE AGREEMENT STATES IN THE REGION, LARGELY BECAUSE OF ITS PEACE AGREEMENT WITH ISRAEL FORGED IN THE BECAUSE OF ITS PEACE AGREEMENT WITH ISRAEL FORGED IN THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION BUT OVER WITH ISRAEL FORGED IN THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION BUT OVER THE YEARS THEY SEEM LESS AND CARTER ADMINISTRATION BUT OVER THE YEARS THEY SEEM LESS AND BEFORE THEIR AL THE YEARS THEY SEEM LESS AND BEFORE THEIR AL OWN BORDERS.
BEFORE THEIR AL OWN BORDERS.
YOU SEE NON-ARAB ABOUTORS LIKE OWN BORDERS.
YOU SEE NON-ARAB ABOUTORS LIKE THE IRANIANS AND TURKS ALSO YOU SEE NON-ARAB ABOUTORS LIKE THE IRANIANS AND TURKS ALSO PLAYING A BIGGER ROLE IN THAT THE IRANIANS AND TURKS ALSO PLAYING A BIGGER ROLE IN THAT SENSE EGYPT HAS ECLIPSED TO PLAYING A BIGGER ROLE IN THAT SENSE EGYPT HAS ECLIPSED TO SOME EXTENT ITS TRADITIONAL SENSE EGYPT HAS ECLIPSED TO SOME EXTENT ITS TRADITIONAL ROLE BUT IT IS CRITICAL TO ANY SOME EXTENT ITS TRADITIONAL ROLE BUT IT IS CRITICAL TO ANY LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ROLE BUT IT IS CRITICAL TO ANY LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ISRAEL AND ITS WREEG REGION AND LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ISRAEL AND ITS WREEG REGION AND THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO GIVE ISRAEL AND ITS WREEG REGION AND THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM THAT MONEY.
THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM THAT MONEY.
GWEN: WATCHING DEMOCRACY WORK THEM THAT MONEY.
GWEN: WATCHING DEMOCRACY WORK OUT IS TOUGH BACK HERE AT HOME.
GWEN: WATCHING DEMOCRACY WORK OUT IS TOUGH BACK HERE AT HOME.
AT THIS HOUR, THE TEXAS STATE OUT IS TOUGH BACK HERE AT HOME.
AT THIS HOUR, THE TEXAS STATE SENATE IS SET TO ACCOMPLISH AT THIS HOUR, THE TEXAS STATE SENATE IS SET TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT A DRAMATIC FILIBUSTER SENATE IS SET TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT A DRAMATIC FILIBUSTER ACCOMPLISHED A FEW WEEKS BACK.
WHAT A DRAMATIC FILIBUSTER ACCOMPLISHED A FEW WEEKS BACK.
IT WAS -- IT WOULD -- IT WOULD ACCOMPLISHED A FEW WEEKS BACK.
IT WAS -- IT WOULD -- IT WOULD FORCE ABORTION CLINICS TO IT WAS -- IT WOULD -- IT WOULD FORCE ABORTION CLINICS TO OPERATE UNDER THE SAME REGIMEN FORCE ABORTION CLINICS TO OPERATE UNDER THE SAME REGIMEN AS HOSPITALS.
OPERATE UNDER THE SAME REGIMEN AS HOSPITALS.
HOW MANY OTHER STATES ARE WE AS HOSPITALS.
HOW MANY OTHER STATES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
HOW MANY OTHER STATES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
>> WELL, AT THIS POINT, JUST TALKING ABOUT?
>> WELL, AT THIS POINT, JUST HALFWAY THROUGH THERE YEAR, >> WELL, AT THIS POINT, JUST HALFWAY THROUGH THERE YEAR, OVER A DOZEN STATES HAVE HALFWAY THROUGH THERE YEAR, OVER A DOZEN STATES HAVE ENACTED SOME FORM OF NEW OVER A DOZEN STATES HAVE ENACTED SOME FORM OF NEW RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION IN ENACTED SOME FORM OF NEW RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION IN TOTAL, 43 DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION IN TOTAL, 43 DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION.
TOTAL, 43 DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION.
THESE ARE FIGURES THAT ARE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION.
THESE ARE FIGURES THAT ARE PUT TOGETHER BY A PRO-CHOICE THESE ARE FIGURES THAT ARE PUT TOGETHER BY A PRO-CHOICE ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION BUT THEIR TOGETHER BY A PRO-CHOICE ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION BUT THEIR NUMBERS ARE WELL-RESPECTED BY ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION BUT THEIR NUMBERS ARE WELL-RESPECTED BY BOTH SIDES.
NUMBERS ARE WELL-RESPECTED BY BOTH SIDES.
THE TEXAS BILL WOULD DO A BOTH SIDES.
THE TEXAS BILL WOULD DO A NUMBER OF THINGS.
THE TEXAS BILL WOULD DO A NUMBER OF THINGS.
IT WOULD BASICALLY REQUIRE NUMBER OF THINGS.
IT WOULD BASICALLY REQUIRE ABORTION CLINICS TO OPERATE AS IT WOULD BASICALLY REQUIRE ABORTION CLINICS TO OPERATE AS AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS.
ABORTION CLINICS TO OPERATE AS AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS.
ONLY SIX OF THE ABORTION AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS.
ONLY SIX OF THE ABORTION CLINICS IN THE STATE AT THIS ONLY SIX OF THE ABORTION CLINICS IN THE STATE AT THIS POINT DO MEET THOSE STANDARDS CLINICS IN THE STATE AT THIS POINT DO MEET THOSE STANDARDS SO THAT MAY MEAN THAT DOZENS POINT DO MEET THOSE STANDARDS SO THAT MAY MEAN THAT DOZENS WOULD HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
SO THAT MAY MEAN THAT DOZENS WOULD HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
IT WOULD ALSO PUT A BAN ON ALL WOULD HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
IT WOULD ALSO PUT A BAN ON ALL ABORTIONS AFTER 20 WEEKS OF IT WOULD ALSO PUT A BAN ON ALL ABORTIONS AFTER 20 WEEKS OF GESTATION.
ABORTIONS AFTER 20 WEEKS OF GESTATION.
THIS IS ANOTHER TIME OF MURTHA GESTATION.
THIS IS ANOTHER TIME OF MURTHA WE HAVE SEEN VERY POPULAR IN THIS IS ANOTHER TIME OF MURTHA WE HAVE SEEN VERY POPULAR IN STATE LEGISLATURES ACROSS THE WE HAVE SEEN VERY POPULAR IN STATE LEGISLATURES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WAS ALSO PASSED BY STATE LEGISLATURES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WAS ALSO PASSED BY THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF COUNTRY AND WAS ALSO PASSED BY THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES JUST LAST THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES JUST LAST MONTH.
REPRESENTATIVES JUST LAST MONTH.
GWEN: MARCO RUBIO IS ITS MAIN MONTH.
GWEN: MARCO RUBIO IS ITS MAIN SPONSOR IN WASHINGTON, RIGHT?
GWEN: MARCO RUBIO IS ITS MAIN SPONSOR IN WASHINGTON, RIGHT?
>> IT IS A QUESTION THAT POLLS SPONSOR IN WASHINGTON, RIGHT?
>> IT IS A QUESTION THAT POLLS VERY WELL.
>> IT IS A QUESTION THAT POLLS VERY WELL.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE THAT VERY WELL.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE THAT THE PUBLIC'S ACCEPTANCE OF IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE THAT THE PUBLIC'S ACCEPTANCE OF ABORTION DIMINISHES THE CLOSER THE PUBLIC'S ACCEPTANCE OF ABORTION DIMINISHES THE CLOSER YOU GET TO VIABILITY AND THAT'S ABORTION DIMINISHES THE CLOSER YOU GET TO VIABILITY AND THAT'S PROBABLYHERE BETWEEN 22 YOU GET TO VIABILITY AND THAT'S PROBABLYHERE BETWEEN 22 AND 24 WEEKS.
PROBABLYHERE BETWEEN 22 AND 24 WEEKS.
INCREASINGLY YOU HEAR ABORTION AND 24 WEEKS.
INCREASINGLY YOU HEAR ABORTION OPPONENTS TALK ABOUT THE INCREASINGLY YOU HEAR ABORTION OPPONENTS TALK ABOUT THE THRESHOLD WHERE THE FETUS FEELS OPPONENTS TALK ABOUT THE THRESHOLD WHERE THE FETUS FEELS PAIN.
THRESHOLD WHERE THE FETUS FEELS PAIN.
ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS WE PAIN.
ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS WE HAVEN'T HEARD IN THE PAST.
ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS WE HAVEN'T HEARD IN THE PAST.
>> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING NOW?
HAVEN'T HEARD IN THE PAST.
>> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING NOW?
IS THIS A MATTER OF TECHNOLOGY >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING NOW?
IS THIS A MATTER OF TECHNOLOGY GETTING BETTER AND THEREFORE IS THIS A MATTER OF TECHNOLOGY GETTING BETTER AND THEREFORE CHANGING OUR ATTITUDES?
GETTING BETTER AND THEREFORE CHANGING OUR ATTITUDES?
>> PUBLIC OPINION HAS NOT CHANGING OUR ATTITUDES?
>> PUBLIC OPINION HAS NOT SHIFTED VERY MUCH ON ABORTION >> PUBLIC OPINION HAS NOT SHIFTED VERY MUCH ON ABORTION LEGALITY SINCE A FEW YEARS SHIFTED VERY MUCH ON ABORTION LEGALITY SINCE A FEW YEARS AFTER ROE VS. WADE WAS DECIDED LEGALITY SINCE A FEW YEARS AFTER ROE VS. WADE WAS DECIDED IN 1973 AND PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS AFTER ROE VS. WADE WAS DECIDED IN 1973 AND PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ESSENTIALLY SOMEWHERE IN IN 1973 AND PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ESSENTIALLY SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE ON THIS QUESTION.
BEEN ESSENTIALLY SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE ON THIS QUESTION.
THEY THINK ABORTION SHOULD THE MIDDLE ON THIS QUESTION.
THEY THINK ABORTION SHOULD REMAIN LEGAL,EARLY STAGES BUT A THEY THINK ABORTION SHOULD REMAIN LEGAL,EARLY STAGES BUT A CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
REMAIN LEGAL,EARLY STAGES BUT A CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS -- CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS -- FIRST OF ALL, THE 2010 AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS -- FIRST OF ALL, THE 2010 ELECTIONS PUT A LOT OF FIRST OF ALL, THE 2010 ELECTIONS PUT A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES INTO THESE STATE ELECTIONS PUT A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES INTO THESE STATE LEGISLATURES AND SWEER SEEING A CONSERVATIVES INTO THESE STATE LEGISLATURES AND SWEER SEEING A LOT MORE ACTIVITY.
LEGISLATURES AND SWEER SEEING A LOT MORE ACTIVITY.
SECOND OF ALL, WE'VE HAD THINGS LOT MORE ACTIVITY.
SECOND OF ALL, WE'VE HAD THINGS LIKE THIS HORRIFIC TRIAL IN SECOND OF ALL, WE'VE HAD THINGS LIKE THIS HORRIFIC TRIAL IN PHILADELPHIA A -- IN WHICH A LIKE THIS HORRIFIC TRIAL IN PHILADELPHIA A -- IN WHICH A CLINIC DOCTOR WAS ESSENTIALLY PHILADELPHIA A -- IN WHICH A CLINIC DOCTOR WAS ESSENTIALLY IN CHARGE OF A HOUSE OF CLINIC DOCTOR WAS ESSENTIALLY IN CHARGE OF A HOUSE OF HORRORS.
IN CHARGE OF A HOUSE OF HORRORS.
IT'S PUTTING ATTENTION ON THE HORRORS.
IT'S PUTTING ATTENTION ON THE PROCEDURE ITSELF, THE FETUS IT'S PUTTING ATTENTION ON THE PROCEDURE ITSELF, THE FETUS ITSELF.
PROCEDURE ITSELF, THE FETUS ITSELF.
WHERE AGAIN, IT'S THE TYPE OF ITSELF.
WHERE AGAIN, IT'S THE TYPE OF ISSUE WHERE THEY SEE THAT THEY WHERE AGAIN, IT'S THE TYPE OF ISSUE WHERE THEY SEE THAT THEY CAN WIN.
ISSUE WHERE THEY SEE THAT THEY CAN WIN.
>> WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST CAN WIN.
>> WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST FORMER REPRESENTATIVE TODD >> WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST FORMER REPRESENTATIVE TODD AIKEN.
FORMER REPRESENTATIVE TODD AIKEN.
IF YOU SAY THE WRONG THINK -- AIKEN.
IF YOU SAY THE WRONG THINK -- THING ABOUT THIS, OBVIOUSLY YOU IF YOU SAY THE WRONG THINK -- THING ABOUT THIS, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GET HAMMERED.
THING ABOUT THIS, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GET HAMMERED.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, HEADING CAN GET HAMMERED.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, HEADING INTO 2014 IS THIS SOMETHING BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, HEADING INTO 2014 IS THIS SOMETHING THEY SEE AS A BENEFIT?
INTO 2014 IS THIS SOMETHING THEY SEE AS A BENEFIT?
>> BASICALLY THE REPUBLICANS THEY SEE AS A BENEFIT?
>> BASICALLY THE REPUBLICANS LOST TWO SENATE SEATS LAST YEAR >> BASICALLY THE REPUBLICANS LOST TWO SENATE SEATS LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEIR CANDIDATES SAID LOST TWO SENATE SEATS LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEIR CANDIDATES SAID BONEHEADED THINGS ABOUT RAPE.
BECAUSE THEIR CANDIDATES SAID BONEHEADED THINGS ABOUT RAPE.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, BONEHEADED THINGS ABOUT RAPE.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, THE MORE IT FOCUSES ON THE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, THE MORE IT FOCUSES ON THE PREGNANT WOMAN HERSELF AND HER THE MORE IT FOCUSES ON THE PREGNANT WOMAN HERSELF AND HER ABILITY TO GET THIS PROCEDURE, PREGNANT WOMAN HERSELF AND HER ABILITY TO GET THIS PROCEDURE, E MORE THE ABORTION ADVOCATE ABILITY TO GET THIS PROCEDURE, E MORE THE ABORTION ADVOCATE SIDES WIN.
E MORE THE ABORTION ADVOCATE SIDES WIN.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A BIG SIDES WIN.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE.
PARTICULARLY THE ISSUE OF LATE ISSUE.
PARTICULARLY THE ISSUE OF LATE ABORTIONS.
PARTICULARLY THE ISSUE OF LATE ABORTIONS.
>> JUMPING OUTSIDE A LITTLE ABORTIONS.
>> JUMPING OUTSIDE A LITTLE BIT, WE HEARD A LOT OF >> JUMPING OUTSIDE A LITTLE BIT, WE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LAST BIT, WE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LAST ELECTION ABOUT WE NEED TO DO DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LAST ELECTION ABOUT WE NEED TO DO BETTER WITH WOMEN VOTERS.
ELECTION ABOUT WE NEED TO DO BETTER WITH WOMEN VOTERS.
YOU HEARD THE DEMOCRATIC BETTER WITH WOMEN VOTERS.
YOU HEARD THE DEMOCRATIC ATTACKS ON A WAR ON WOMEN IS YOU HEARD THE DEMOCRATIC ATTACKS ON A WAR ON WOMEN IS THAT FEUD CONTINUING?
ATTACKS ON A WAR ON WOMEN IS THAT FEUD CONTINUING?
>> IT IS AND CERTAINLY IN THAT FEUD CONTINUING?
>> IT IS AND CERTAINLY IN TEXAS.
>> IT IS AND CERTAINLY IN TEXAS.
THIS QUESTION OF PUTTING TEXAS.
THIS QUESTION OF PUTTING RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION THIS QUESTION OF PUTTING RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION CLINICS, MAKING THEM OPERATE RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION CLINICS, MAKING THEM OPERATE MORE LIKE HOSPITALS.
CLINICS, MAKING THEM OPERATE MORE LIKE HOSPITALS.
THE ONE SIDE SAYS WE'RE DOING MORE LIKE HOSPITALS.
THE ONE SIDE SAYS WE'RE DOING THIS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE ONE SIDE SAYS WE'RE DOING THIS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE WOMEN.
THIS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE WOMEN.
GOOD MEDICAL PRACTICE.
THE WOMEN.
GOOD MEDICAL PRACTICE.
THE ABORTION RIGHTSED A CATS GOOD MEDICAL PRACTICE.
THE ABORTION RIGHTSED A CATS ARE SAYING NO, THIS IS A THE ABORTION RIGHTSED A CATS ARE SAYING NO, THIS IS A PRETEXT TO JUST SHUT DOWN THE ARE SAYING NO, THIS IS A PRETEXT TO JUST SHUT DOWN THE CLINICS AND I THINK THAT IS AN PRETEXT TO JUST SHUT DOWN THE CLINICS AND I THINK THAT IS AN ARGUMENT WHERE AT THIS POINT I CLINICS AND I THINK THAT IS AN ARGUMENT WHERE AT THIS POINT I THINK THE ABORTION RIGHTS SIDE ARGUMENT WHERE AT THIS POINT I THINK THE ABORTION RIGHTS SIDE HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING.
THINK THE ABORTION RIGHTS SIDE HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING.
WE SAW THAT IN NORTH CAROLINA HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING.
WE SAW THAT IN NORTH CAROLINA THIS WEEK.
WE SAW THAT IN NORTH CAROLINA THIS WEEK.
GWEN: WE'VE BEEN COVERING THIS THIS WEEK.
GWEN: WE'VE BEEN COVERING THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS.
GWEN: WE'VE BEEN COVERING THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN IT MOVE FROM THE ISSUE FOR YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN IT MOVE FROM THE SUPREME COURT TO CONGRESS AND WE'VE SEEN IT MOVE FROM THE SUPREME COURT TO CONGRESS AND NOW TO STATE LEGISLATURES AND SUPREME COURT TO CONGRESS AND NOW TO STATE LEGISLATURES AND IT SEEMS THE ANTI-ABORTION NOW TO STATE LEGISLATURES AND IT SEEMS THE ANTI-ABORTION ACTIVISTS HAVE BEEN THE ONES IT SEEMS THE ANTI-ABORTION ACTIVISTS HAVE BEEN THE ONES WITH THE PLANS.
ACTIVISTS HAVE BEEN THE ONES WITH THE PLANS.
DO DEMOCRATS ARE PRO-CHOICE WITH THE PLANS.
DO DEMOCRATS ARE PRO-CHOICE TYPES HAVE A PLAN TO PUSH BACK?
DO DEMOCRATS ARE PRO-CHOICE TYPES HAVE A PLAN TO PUSH BACK?
>> THEY DO.
TYPES HAVE A PLAN TO PUSH BACK?
>> THEY DO.
THEIR PLAN, AND WE SAW IT IN >> THEY DO.
THEIR PLAN, AND WE SAW IT IN TEXAS WITH THIS FILIBUSTER BY THEIR PLAN, AND WE SAW IT IN TEXAS WITH THIS FILIBUSTER BY WENDY DAVIS, SENATOR TEXAS WITH THIS FILIBUSTER BY WENDY DAVIS, SENATOR WHO BECAME NATIONALLY FAMOUS.
WENDY DAVIS, SENATOR WHO BECAME NATIONALLY FAMOUS.
THE MORE THEY CAN FOCUS ON, WHO BECAME NATIONALLY FAMOUS.
THE MORE THEY CAN FOCUS ON, AGAIN, THE RIGHT AND THE THE MORE THEY CAN FOCUS ON, AGAIN, THE RIGHT AND THE ACCESSIBILITY OF WOMEN WHO WANT AGAIN, THE RIGHT AND THE ACCESSIBILITY OF WOMEN WHO WANT THIS PROCEDURE, AND I CERTAINLY ACCESSIBILITY OF WOMEN WHO WANT THIS PROCEDURE, AND I CERTAINLY HEARD THAT IN THE DEBATE TODAY.
THIS PROCEDURE, AND I CERTAINLY HEARD THAT IN THE DEBATE TODAY.
WENDY DAVIS GOT UP ON THE HEARD THAT IN THE DEBATE TODAY.
WENDY DAVIS GOT UP ON THE SENATE FLOOR AND WAS TALKING WENDY DAVIS GOT UP ON THE SENATE FLOOR AND WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE SENATE FLOOR AND WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE RESTRICTIONS REQUIRE A WOMAN TO ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE RESTRICTIONS REQUIRE A WOMAN TO GO BACK TO THE CLINIC THREE RESTRICTIONS REQUIRE A WOMAN TO GO BACK TO THE CLINIC THREE SEPARATE TIMES BEFORE GETTING GO BACK TO THE CLINIC THREE SEPARATE TIMES BEFORE GETTING AN ABORTION.
SEPARATE TIMES BEFORE GETTING AN ABORTION.
THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING AN ABORTION.
THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING FOR A WOMAN WHO HAS TWO JOBS TO THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING FOR A WOMAN WHO HAS TWO JOBS TO DO OR A WOMAN IN A MORRU AREA FOR A WOMAN WHO HAS TWO JOBS TO DO OR A WOMAN IN A MORRU AREA TO ACHIEVE.
DO OR A WOMAN IN A MORRU AREA TO ACHIEVE.
GWEN: SO IN EACH AND EVERY CASE TO ACHIEVE.
GWEN: SO IN EACH AND EVERY CASE IT'S NOT THE COURTS NECESSARILY GWEN: SO IN EACH AND EVERY CASE IT'S NOT THE COURTS NECESSARILY BUT FIGHTING LANGUAGE WITH IT'S NOT THE COURTS NECESSARILY BUT FIGHTING LANGUAGE WITH LANGUAGE?
BUT FIGHTING LANGUAGE WITH LANGUAGE?
>> EXACTLY.
LANGUAGE?
>> EXACTLY.
THE COURTS HAVE SAID THEY'LL >> EXACTLY.
THE COURTS HAVE SAID THEY'LL ALLOW SOME RESTRICTIONS.
THE COURTS HAVE SAID THEY'LL ALLOW SOME RESTRICTIONS.
THE QUESTION IS WHICH ONES.
ALLOW SOME RESTRICTIONS.
THE QUESTION IS WHICH ONES.
GWEN: THANK YOU.
THE QUESTION IS WHICH ONES.
GWEN: THANK YOU.
WE CLOSE WITH A BIT OF A GWEN: THANK YOU.
WE CLOSE WITH A BIT OF A MEDITATION ON POLITICAL KEMDEM WE CLOSE WITH A BIT OF A MEDITATION ON POLITICAL KEMDEM -- REDEMPTION.
MEDITATION ON POLITICAL KEMDEM -- REDEMPTION.
HERE ARE A QUITE A LIST OF -- REDEMPTION.
HERE ARE A QUITE A LIST OF POLITICS WHO BOUNCED BACK FROM HERE ARE A QUITE A LIST OF POLITICS WHO BOUNCED BACK FROM SEXUAL ENDEAVORS.
POLITICS WHO BOUNCED BACK FROM SEXUAL ENDEAVORS.
THIS WEEK, ALL EYES TURN TO NEW SEXUAL ENDEAVORS.
THIS WEEK, ALL EYES TURN TO NEW YORK WHERE DISGRACED FORMER THIS WEEK, ALL EYES TURN TO NEW YORK WHERE DISGRACED FORMER GOVERNOR ELIOT SPITZER JOINED YORK WHERE DISGRACED FORMER GOVERNOR ELIOT SPITZER JOINED DISGRACED FORMER CONGRESSMAN GOVERNOR ELIOT SPITZER JOINED DISGRACED FORMER CONGRESSMAN ANTHONY WEINER IN SEEKING DISGRACED FORMER CONGRESSMAN ANTHONY WEINER IN SEEKING POLITICAL OFFICE.
ANTHONY WEINER IN SEEKING POLITICAL OFFICE.
THE WORLD CHUTZPAH COMES TO POLITICAL OFFICE.
THE WORLD CHUTZPAH COMES TO MIND.
THE WORLD CHUTZPAH COMES TO MIND.
>> YOU SAID IT RIGHT.
MIND.
>> YOU SAID IT RIGHT.
THE POLLS SHOW THESE GUYS HAVE >> YOU SAID IT RIGHT.
THE POLLS SHOW THESE GUYS HAVE A SHOT.
THE POLLS SHOW THESE GUYS HAVE A SHOT.
WE SAW A SURVEY THIS WEEK THAT A SHOT.
WE SAW A SURVEY THIS WEEK THAT SHOWED ELIOT SPITZER 11 POINTS WE SAW A SURVEY THIS WEEK THAT SHOWED ELIOT SPITZER 11 POINTS OVER HIS OPPONENT.
SHOWED ELIOT SPITZER 11 POINTS OVER HIS OPPONENT.
THE MANHATTAN BOROUGH OVER HIS OPPONENT.
THE MANHATTAN BOROUGH PRESIDENT, WHO IS NOT A THE MANHATTAN BOROUGH PRESIDENT, WHO IS NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME.
PRESIDENT, WHO IS NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME.
AND YOU'RE SEEING ANTHONY HOUSEHOLD NAME.
AND YOU'RE SEEING ANTHONY WEINER ALSO INCHING UP IN THE AND YOU'RE SEEING ANTHONY WEINER ALSO INCHING UP IN THE POLLS.
WEINER ALSO INCHING UP IN THE POLLS.
THE LONGTIME FRONTRUER WNNAS POLLS.
THE LONGTIME FRONTRUER WNNAS THE SPEAKER OF THE CITY THE LONGTIME FRONTRUER WNNAS THE SPEAKER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CHRISTINE QUINN, ALSO THE SPEAKER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CHRISTINE QUINN, ALSO NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL, CHRISTINE QUINN, ALSO NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY BUT NOW YOU'RE NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY BUT NOW YOU'RE SEEING WEINER IN ONE POLL IN NEW YORK CITY BUT NOW YOU'RE SEEING WEINER IN ONE POLL IN FIRST PLACE, ANOTHER POLL IN SEEING WEINER IN ONE POLL IN FIRST PLACE, ANOTHER POLL IN SECOND PLACE.
FIRST PLACE, ANOTHER POLL IN SECOND PLACE.
GWEN: IS IT THAT VOTERS HAVE SECOND PLACE.
GWEN: IS IT THAT VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN UD TOSE THE COARSENING GWEN: IS IT THAT VOTERS HAVE GOTTEN UD TOSE THE COARSENING OF POLITICS AND DON'T CARE GOTTEN UD TOSE THE COARSENING OF POLITICS AND DON'T CARE ANYMORE?
OF POLITICS AND DON'T CARE ANYMORE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE.
ANYMORE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE.
THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE.
THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES THAT GO INTO THESE KIND OF THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES THAT GO INTO THESE KIND OF RACES.
THAT GO INTO THESE KIND OF RACES.
YOU MENTIONED MARK SANFORD.
RACES.
YOU MENTIONED MARK SANFORD.
THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF SOUTH YOU MENTIONED MARK SANFORD.
THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF SOUTH CAROLINA WHO HAD AN THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF SOUTH CAROLINA WHO HAD AN EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR IN OFFICE CAROLINA WHO HAD AN EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR IN OFFICE AND MISLED THE VOTERS.
EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR IN OFFICE AND MISLED THE VOTERS.
MITT ROMNEY WON THAT STATE BY AND MISLED THE VOTERS.
MITT ROMNEY WON THAT STATE BY 18 POINTS.
MITT ROMNEY WON THAT STATE BY 18 POINTS.
HE HAD A WEAK DEMOCRATIC 18 POINTS.
HE HAD A WEAK DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHO HAD NEVER RUN FOR HE HAD A WEAK DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHO HAD NEVER RUN FOR OFFICE BEFORE AND THE VOTERS IN CANDIDATE WHO HAD NEVER RUN FOR OFFICE BEFORE AND THE VOTERS IN THAT DISTRICT, ALL THEY SAW WAS OFFICE BEFORE AND THE VOTERS IN THAT DISTRICT, ALL THEY SAW WAS REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT.
THAT DISTRICT, ALL THEY SAW WAS REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT.
NOT SO MUCH MARK SANFORD'S REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT.
NOT SO MUCH MARK SANFORD'S PAST.
NOT SO MUCH MARK SANFORD'S PAST.
AS ONE VOTER SAID IT'S NOT LIKE PAST.
AS ONE VOTER SAID IT'S NOT LIKE HE COMMITTED MURDER OR AS ONE VOTER SAID IT'S NOT LIKE HE COMMITTED MURDER OR SOMETHING.
HE COMMITTED MURDER OR SOMETHING.
>> IS THAT THE STANDARD?
SOMETHING.
>> IS THAT THE STANDARD?
CRIMINALITY?
>> IS THAT THE STANDARD?
CRIMINALITY?
THESE THINGS HAVE DONE CRIMINALITY?
THESE THINGS HAVE DONE EMBARRASSING THINGS AND HARMFUL THESE THINGS HAVE DONE EMBARRASSING THINGS AND HARMFUL TO THEIR MARRIAGES.
EMBARRASSING THINGS AND HARMFUL TO THEIR MARRIAGES.
BUT THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY TO THEIR MARRIAGES.
BUT THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY CRIMINALS.
BUT THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY CRIMINALS.
IS THAT A CONDITION THAT STOPS CRIMINALS.
IS THAT A CONDITION THAT STOPS YOU FROM MAKING COMEBACKS?
IS THAT A CONDITION THAT STOPS YOU FROM MAKING COMEBACKS?
>> IT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF YOU FROM MAKING COMEBACKS?
>> IT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF REINVENTING YOURSELF -- FOR >> IT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF REINVENTING YOURSELF -- FOR EXAMPLE, ELIOT SPITZER, AFTER REINVENTING YOURSELF -- FOR EXAMPLE, ELIOT SPITZER, AFTER HE STEPPED DOWN AS GOVERNOR -- EXAMPLE, ELIOT SPITZER, AFTER HE STEPPED DOWN AS GOVERNOR -- GWEN: HIRING A PROSTITUTE WAS HE STEPPED DOWN AS GOVERNOR -- GWEN: HIRING A PROSTITUTE WAS NOT EXACTLY LEGAL BUT HE WASN'T GWEN: HIRING A PROSTITUTE WAS NOT EXACTLY LEGAL BUT HE WASN'T CHARGED WITH A CRIME.
NOT EXACTLY LEGAL BUT HE WASN'T CHARGED WITH A CRIME.
>> HE WASN'T.
CHARGED WITH A CRIME.
>> HE WASN'T.
HE WAS ON CNN AND ANOTHER CABLE >> HE WASN'T.
HE WAS ON CNN AND ANOTHER CABLE CHANNEL AND IT'S WITHIN FIVE HE WAS ON CNN AND ANOTHER CABLE CHANNEL AND IT'S WITHIN FIVE YEARS NOW SINCE HE LEFTS CHANNEL AND IT'S WITHIN FIVE YEARS NOW SINCE HE LEFTS OFFICE.
YEARS NOW SINCE HE LEFTS OFFICE.
SOME TIME HAS PASSED AND HE'S OFFICE.
SOME TIME HAS PASSED AND HE'S NOW DOING THE TYPICAL HUMILITY SOME TIME HAS PASSED AND HE'S NOW DOING THE TYPICAL HUMILITY TOUR.
NOW DOING THE TYPICAL HUMILITY TOUR.
GOING ON "MORNING JOE" AND TOUR.
GOING ON "MORNING JOE" AND GETTING CHOKED UP.
GOING ON "MORNING JOE" AND GETTING CHOKED UP.
AND GOING ON JAY LENO.
GETTING CHOKED UP.
AND GOING ON JAY LENO.
GWEN: DID I MISS THAT?
AND GOING ON JAY LENO.
GWEN: DID I MISS THAT?
>> I SAW THAT ON TWITTER.
GWEN: DID I MISS THAT?
>> I SAW THAT ON TWITTER.
I HOPE I'M NOT -- AND A SORT >> I SAW THAT ON TWITTER.
I HOPE I'M NOT -- AND A SORT OF A REINVENTION.
I HOPE I'M NOT -- AND A SORT OF A REINVENTION.
HIS WIFE IS NOW FUNDRAISING FOR OF A REINVENTION.
HIS WIFE IS NOW FUNDRAISING FOR HIM.
HIS WIFE IS NOW FUNDRAISING FOR HIM.
>> BUT ELIOT SPITZER IS RUNNING HIM.
>> BUT ELIOT SPITZER IS RUNNING NOW FOR A FAIRLY MODEST OFFICE, >> BUT ELIOT SPITZER IS RUNNING NOW FOR A FAIRLY MODEST OFFICE, COMPTROLLER.
NOW FOR A FAIRLY MODEST OFFICE, COMPTROLLER.
MARK SAN FORD WENT BACK TO THE COMPTROLLER.
MARK SAN FORD WENT BACK TO THE DISTRICT HE HAD FIRST -- -- HE MARK SAN FORD WENT BACK TO THE DISTRICT HE HAD FIRST -- -- HE ALSO TOOK A DEMOTION.
DISTRICT HE HAD FIRST -- -- HE ALSO TOOK A DEMOTION.
ANTHONY WEINER IS ASKING FOR A ALSO TOOK A DEMOTION.
ANTHONY WEINER IS ASKING FOR A PROMOTION, THE BIG PRIZE IN NEW ANTHONY WEINER IS ASKING FOR A PROMOTION, THE BIG PRIZE IN NEW YORK POLITICS.
PROMOTION, THE BIG PRIZE IN NEW YORK POLITICS.
IS THAT ONE CHUTZPAH OVER THE YORK POLITICS.
IS THAT ONE CHUTZPAH OVER THE LINE HERE?
IS THAT ONE CHUTZPAH OVER THE LINE HERE?
>> IT MAY BE.
LINE HERE?
>> IT MAY BE.
HE'S TRYING TO TURN THE >> IT MAY BE.
HE'S TRYING TO TURN THE CONVERSATION TO ALL OF HIS HE'S TRYING TO TURN THE CONVERSATION TO ALL OF HIS POLICY KIDS AND ELIOT SPITZER CONVERSATION TO ALL OF HIS POLICY KIDS AND ELIOT SPITZER GETTING INTO THE RACE ISN'T POLICY KIDS AND ELIOT SPITZER GETTING INTO THE RACE ISN'T HELPING WITH THAT SINCE IT GETTING INTO THE RACE ISN'T HELPING WITH THAT SINCE IT REVIVES ALL THIS TALK ABOUT SEX HELPING WITH THAT SINCE IT REVIVES ALL THIS TALK ABOUT SEX SCANDALS AND PEOPLE COMPARING REVIVES ALL THIS TALK ABOUT SEX SCANDALS AND PEOPLE COMPARING WHAT ANTHONY WEINER DID TO WHAT SCANDALS AND PEOPLE COMPARING WHAT ANTHONY WEINER DID TO WHAT ELLIOTT SPITZER DID.
WHAT ANTHONY WEINER DID TO WHAT ELLIOTT SPITZER DID.
IS THAT WORSE, IS THAT BETTER?
ELLIOTT SPITZER DID.
IS THAT WORSE, IS THAT BETTER?
HE'S GOING TO HAVE NOW AN EVEN IS THAT WORSE, IS THAT BETTER?
HE'S GOING TO HAVE NOW AN EVEN BIGGER CHALLENGE TO GET THE HE'S GOING TO HAVE NOW AN EVEN BIGGER CHALLENGE TO GET THE VOTERS TO FOCUS ON WHAT HE'S BIGGER CHALLENGE TO GET THE VOTERS TO FOCUS ON WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO FOR NEW YORK CITY.
VOTERS TO FOCUS ON WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO FOR NEW YORK CITY.
>> I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT GOING TO DO FOR NEW YORK CITY.
>> I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT ROLE TECHNOLOGY THESE DAYS >> I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT ROLE TECHNOLOGY THESE DAYS PLAYS IN THIS OBVIOUSLY WE CAN WHAT ROLE TECHNOLOGY THESE DAYS PLAYS IN THIS OBVIOUSLY WE CAN SEE THESE DAYS HOW QUICKLY PLAYS IN THIS OBVIOUSLY WE CAN SEE THESE DAYS HOW QUICKLY SOMEBODY CAN FALL.
SEE THESE DAYS HOW QUICKLY SOMEBODY CAN FALL.
IT JUST TAKES A COUPLE OF DAYS SOMEBODY CAN FALL.
IT JUST TAKES A COUPLE OF DAYS -- PAULA DEEN, FOR EXAMPLE.
IT JUST TAKES A COUPLE OF DAYS -- PAULA DEEN, FOR EXAMPLE.
HOW QUICKLY SOMEBODY CAN SUFFER -- PAULA DEEN, FOR EXAMPLE.
HOW QUICKLY SOMEBODY CAN SUFFER AN UTTER CLAMS.
HOW QUICKLY SOMEBODY CAN SUFFER AN UTTER CLAMS.
DOES IT ALSO HELP THEM AN UTTER CLAMS.
DOES IT ALSO HELP THEM RESURRECT THEIR CAREER AT SOME DOES IT ALSO HELP THEM RESURRECT THEIR CAREER AT SOME POINT?
RESURRECT THEIR CAREER AT SOME POINT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
POINT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THERE ARE SO MANY NEWS CYCLES >> ABSOLUTELY.
THERE ARE SO MANY NEWS CYCLES THAT ARE HAPPENING EVERY DAY THERE ARE SO MANY NEWS CYCLES THAT ARE HAPPENING EVERY DAY AND ALSO IT HELPS CANDIDATES THAT ARE HAPPENING EVERY DAY AND ALSO IT HELPS CANDIDATES WHO HAVE BEEN SHUNNED BY THE AND ALSO IT HELPS CANDIDATES WHO HAVE BEEN SHUNNED BY THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT.
WHO HAVE BEEN SHUNNED BY THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT.
YOU'VE SEEN STORIES ABOUT THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT.
YOU'VE SEEN STORIES ABOUT THE UNIONS AND BUSINESS LEADERS AND YOU'VE SEEN STORIES ABOUT THE UNIONS AND BUSINESS LEADERS AND THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT UNIONS AND BUSINESS LEADERS AND THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT WANTING NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT WANTING NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE FOLKS BUT ONLINE THEY CAN WANTING NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE FOLKS BUT ONLINE THEY CAN REACH LOTS OF PEOPLE.
THESE FOLKS BUT ONLINE THEY CAN REACH LOTS OF PEOPLE.
I GOT EMAILS FROM ANTHONY REACH LOTS OF PEOPLE.
I GOT EMAILS FROM ANTHONY WEINER ALL WEEK ASKING FOR I GOT EMAILS FROM ANTHONY WEINER ALL WEEK ASKING FOR MONEY.
WEINER ALL WEEK ASKING FOR MONEY.
>> I'M HOPING HE DENIED -- MONEY.
>> I'M HOPING HE DENIED -- DIDN'T SEND PICTURES WITH IT.
>> I'M HOPING HE DENIED -- DIDN'T SEND PICTURES WITH IT.
GWEN: SOMEWHERE GARY HART IS DIDN'T SEND PICTURES WITH IT.
GWEN: SOMEWHERE GARY HART IS THINKING WHY DIDN'T I WAIT?
GWEN: SOMEWHERE GARY HART IS THINKING WHY DIDN'T I WAIT?
THANKS, EVERYBODY.
THINKING WHY DIDN'T I WAIT?
THANKS, EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE TO GO BUT THE THANKS, EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE TO GO BUT THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES ONLINE WE HAVE TO GO BUT THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES ONLINE WHERE WE'LL TALK ABOUT EDWARD CONVERSATION CONTINUES ONLINE WHERE WE'LL TALK ABOUT EDWARD SNOWDEN AND RICK PERRY AND WHERE WE'LL TALK ABOUT EDWARD SNOWDEN AND RICK PERRY AND JANET NAPOLITANO, AMONG OTHER SNOWDEN AND RICK PERRY AND JANET NAPOLITANO, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
JANET NAPOLITANO, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
WE STREAM LIVE BEGINNING AT :30 THINGS.
WE STREAM LIVE BEGINNING AT :30 EASTERN TIME OR CHECK OUT THE WE STREAM LIVE BEGINNING AT :30 EASTERN TIME OR CHECK OUT THE VIDEO ALL WEEK LONG.
EASTERN TIME OR CHECK OUT THE VIDEO ALL WEEK LONG.
KEEP UP WITH DEVELOPMENTS WITH VIDEO ALL WEEK LONG.
KEEP UP WITH DEVELOPMENTS WITH ME AT THE PBS NEWS HOUR AND KEEP UP WITH DEVELOPMENTS WITH ME AT THE PBS NEWS HOUR AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK ON ME AT THE PBS NEWS HOUR AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" AND I WANT TO WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK ON "WASHINGTON WEEK" AND I WANT TO ISH A 100-YEAR HAPPY "WASHINGTON WEEK" AND I WANT TO ISH A 100-YEAR HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO THE SISTERS OF ISH A 100-YEAR HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO THE SISTERS OF SIGMA PI INCORPORATE
