>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE CONTRARY" FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE EGYPTIAN UPRISING.
FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE EGYPTIAN UPRISING.
THEN, WOMEN SILENCED IN MOVIES.
EGYPTIAN UPRISING.
THEN, WOMEN SILENCED IN MOVIES.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: POVERTY THEN, WOMEN SILENCED IN MOVIES.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: POVERTY MOVES TO THE SUBURBS.
HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THE PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THE EGYPTIAN PROTESTS.
UP FIRST, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THE EGYPTIAN PROTESTS.
FOR DAYS MILLIONS PACKED CAIRO'S EGYPTIAN PROTESTS.
FOR DAYS MILLIONS PACKED CAIRO'S STREETS AND TAHRIR SQUARE FOR DAYS MILLIONS PACKED CAIRO'S STREETS AND TAHRIR SQUARE AWAITING WHAT THEY HOPED WAS STREETS AND TAHRIR SQUARE AWAITING WHAT THEY HOPED WAS MORSI'S RESIGNATION.
AWAITING WHAT THEY HOPED WAS MORSI'S RESIGNATION.
AS DURING THE ARAB SPRING, THERE MORSI'S RESIGNATION.
AS DURING THE ARAB SPRING, THERE WERE NUMEROUS REPORTS OF SEXUAL AS DURING THE ARAB SPRING, THERE WERE NUMEROUS REPORTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS ON WOMEN.
WERE NUMEROUS REPORTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS ON WOMEN.
PROTESTORS, WHO AS VOTERS HELPED ASSAULTS ON WOMEN.
PROTESTORS, WHO AS VOTERS HELPED BRING MORSI TO POWER.
PROTESTORS, WHO AS VOTERS HELPED BRING MORSI TO POWER.
THE WOMEN'S GROUP OPERATION BRING MORSI TO POWER.
THE WOMEN'S GROUP OPERATION ANTISEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTED THE WOMEN'S GROUP OPERATION ANTISEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTED AT LEAST 44 CASES OF SEXUAL ANTISEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTED AT LEAST 44 CASES OF SEXUAL ASSAULT ON JUST THE FIRST DAY AT LEAST 44 CASES OF SEXUAL ASSAULT ON JUST THE FIRST DAY AND MORE AS PROTESTS CONTINUED ASSAULT ON JUST THE FIRST DAY AND MORE AS PROTESTS CONTINUED DURING THE WEEK.
AND MORE AS PROTESTS CONTINUED DURING THE WEEK.
A BBC JOURNALIST TWEETED THAT DURING THE WEEK.
A BBC JOURNALIST TWEETED THAT WOMEN WERE TAKING REFUGE IN HIS A BBC JOURNALIST TWEETED THAT WOMEN WERE TAKING REFUGE IN HIS BUILDING TO AVOID SEXUAL WOMEN WERE TAKING REFUGE IN HIS BUILDING TO AVOID SEXUAL ASSAULT.
BUILDING TO AVOID SEXUAL ASSAULT.
OPERATION ANTI-SEXUAL HARASSMENT ASSAULT.
OPERATION ANTI-SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO OPERATION ANTI-SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO PROTECT WOMEN DURING THE IS ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO PROTECT WOMEN DURING THE PROTESTS.
PROTECT WOMEN DURING THE PROTESTS.
EGYPTIAN ACTIVIST DALIA ZIADA IS PROTESTS.
EGYPTIAN ACTIVIST DALIA ZIADA IS FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THIS EGYPTIAN ACTIVIST DALIA ZIADA IS FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THIS LATEST ROUND OF ASSAULTS ON FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THIS LATEST ROUND OF ASSAULTS ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN EGYPT.
LATEST ROUND OF ASSAULTS ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN EGYPT.
>> WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN EGYPT.
>> WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND RECENTLY >> WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND RECENTLY THIS PROBLEM IS NOT ONLY A SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND RECENTLY THIS PROBLEM IS NOT ONLY A SOCIAL PROBLEM BUT IT WAS THIS PROBLEM IS NOT ONLY A SOCIAL PROBLEM BUT IT WAS POLITICIZED.
SOCIAL PROBLEM BUT IT WAS POLITICIZED.
THE POLITICIANS STARTED TO USE POLITICIZED.
THE POLITICIANS STARTED TO USE THIS TO KEEP WOMEN AWAY FROM THE POLITICIANS STARTED TO USE THIS TO KEEP WOMEN AWAY FROM PARTICIPATING IN PROTESTINGS.
THIS TO KEEP WOMEN AWAY FROM PARTICIPATING IN PROTESTINGS.
SO AS A SOLUTION IN TEHRIR PARTICIPATING IN PROTESTINGS.
SO AS A SOLUTION IN TEHRIR SQUARE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD LIKE SO AS A SOLUTION IN TEHRIR SQUARE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD LIKE THE MEN THERE IN A CIRCLE TO SQUARE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD LIKE THE MEN THERE IN A CIRCLE TO KEEP THE WOMEN IN WHILE THEY ARE THE MEN THERE IN A CIRCLE TO KEEP THE WOMEN IN WHILE THEY ARE PROTESTING.
KEEP THE WOMEN IN WHILE THEY ARE PROTESTING.
SO THEY CAN MOVE FREELY BUT AT PROTESTING.
SO THEY CAN MOVE FREELY BUT AT THE SAME TIME BUT AT THE SAME SO THEY CAN MOVE FREELY BUT AT THE SAME TIME BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY COULD NOT BE HARASSED.
THE SAME TIME BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY COULD NOT BE HARASSED.
>> ZIADA SAYS WOMEN ARE AT THE TIME THEY COULD NOT BE HARASSED.
>> ZIADA SAYS WOMEN ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE MOVEMENT TO >> ZIADA SAYS WOMEN ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE MOVEMENT TO OUST MORI.
FOREFRONT OF THE MOVEMENT TO OUST MORI.
>> THIS TIME WE ARE REVOLTING OUST MORI.
>> THIS TIME WE ARE REVOLTING AGAINST A REGIME THAT SEES >> THIS TIME WE ARE REVOLTING AGAINST A REGIME THAT SEES WOMEN, I AM SORRY TO SAY THIS AS AGAINST A REGIME THAT SEES WOMEN, I AM SORRY TO SAY THIS AS SEXUAL OBJECT.
WOMEN, I AM SORRY TO SAY THIS AS SEXUAL OBJECT.
THEY DON'T SEE HER AS A LEADER, SEXUAL OBJECT.
THEY DON'T SEE HER AS A LEADER, THEY DON'T SEE HER AS AN THEY DON'T SEE HER AS A LEADER, THEY DON'T SEE HER AS AN ESSENTIAL PARTICIPANT IN PUBLIC THEY DON'T SEE HER AS AN ESSENTIAL PARTICIPANT IN PUBLIC LIFE.
ESSENTIAL PARTICIPANT IN PUBLIC LIFE.
AND THEY DID NOT TRY TO SAY THIS LIFE.
AND THEY DID NOT TRY TO SAY THIS OUT LOUD IN PUBLIC.
AND THEY DID NOT TRY TO SAY THIS OUT LOUD IN PUBLIC.
ALL THE TIMES THEY CLAIM MORSI OUT LOUD IN PUBLIC.
ALL THE TIMES THEY CLAIM MORSI IN PARTICULAR WHEN HE CAME TO ALL THE TIMES THEY CLAIM MORSI IN PARTICULAR WHEN HE CAME TO POWER, HE KEPT CLAIMING THAT WE IN PARTICULAR WHEN HE CAME TO POWER, HE KEPT CLAIMING THAT WE SUPPORT WOMEN'S RIGHTS BUT IN POWER, HE KEPT CLAIMING THAT WE SUPPORT WOMEN'S RIGHTS BUT IN FACT, HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING FOR SUPPORT WOMEN'S RIGHTS BUT IN FACT, HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING FOR WOMEN.
FACT, HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING FOR WOMEN.
ANYTHING.
WOMEN.
ANYTHING.
SO, BY WOMEN PARTICIPATING IN ANYTHING.
SO, BY WOMEN PARTICIPATING IN THIS RIGHT NOW THEY ARE SO, BY WOMEN PARTICIPATING IN THIS RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GUARANTEEING THEIR OWN RIGHTS AS THIS RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GUARANTEEING THEIR OWN RIGHTS AS WELL.
GUARANTEEING THEIR OWN RIGHTS AS WELL.
>> FREEDOM FROM SEXUAL ASSAULT WELL.
>> FREEDOM FROM SEXUAL ASSAULT BECOME A PRINCIPLE OF U.S. >> FREEDOM FROM SEXUAL ASSAULT BECOME A PRINCIPLE OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY?
BECOME A PRINCIPLE OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY?
>> ACTUALLY I HOPE SO.
FOREIGN POLICY?
>> ACTUALLY I HOPE SO.
BONNIE, WOMEN WERE AT THE >> ACTUALLY I HOPE SO.
BONNIE, WOMEN WERE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE EGYPTIAN BONNIE, WOMEN WERE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE EGYPTIAN REVOLUTION, I ASSUME THAT THIS FOREFRONT OF THE EGYPTIAN REVOLUTION, I ASSUME THAT THIS IS THE WORK OF COUNTER REVOLUTION, I ASSUME THAT THIS IS THE WORK OF COUNTER REVOLUTIONARIES OR PERHAPS IS THE WORK OF COUNTER REVOLUTIONARIES OR PERHAPS THUGS.
REVOLUTIONARIES OR PERHAPS THUGS.
>> GOOD FOR THOSE WOMEN STANDING THUGS.
>> GOOD FOR THOSE WOMEN STANDING UP FOR THE RIGHT TO PROTEST WHAT >> GOOD FOR THOSE WOMEN STANDING UP FOR THE RIGHT TO PROTEST WHAT HAS BEEN A TERRIBLE REGIME, NOT UP FOR THE RIGHT TO PROTEST WHAT HAS BEEN A TERRIBLE REGIME, NOT GOOD FOR WOMEN ANYWHERE BUT HAS BEEN A TERRIBLE REGIME, NOT GOOD FOR WOMEN ANYWHERE BUT MORSI HASN'T BEEN THE RIGHT GOOD FOR WOMEN ANYWHERE BUT MORSI HASN'T BEEN THE RIGHT LEADER EITHER.
MORSI HASN'T BEEN THE RIGHT LEADER EITHER.
>> THERE'S ALSO SOME ELEMENT OF LEADER EITHER.
>> THERE'S ALSO SOME ELEMENT OF GANGS IN THAT FRATERNITIES, YOU >> THERE'S ALSO SOME ELEMENT OF GANGS IN THAT FRATERNITIES, YOU SEE INDIVIDUALS WILL DO IN A GANGS IN THAT FRATERNITIES, YOU SEE INDIVIDUALS WILL DO IN A GANG THAT THEY WOULD NEVER SEE INDIVIDUALS WILL DO IN A GANG THAT THEY WOULD NEVER CONSIDER DOING ON THEIR OWN.
GANG THAT THEY WOULD NEVER CONSIDER DOING ON THEIR OWN.
BUT THERE IS SO LITTLE BYSTANDER CONSIDER DOING ON THEIR OWN.
BUT THERE IS SO LITTLE BYSTANDER INTERVENTION SAYS SOMETHING BUT THERE IS SO LITTLE BYSTANDER INTERVENTION SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE CULTURE.
INTERVENTION SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE CULTURE.
>> LET'S BE HONEST THERE IS ABOUT THE CULTURE.
>> LET'S BE HONEST THERE IS CULTURE PERVASIVE OF WOMEN BEING >> LET'S BE HONEST THERE IS CULTURE PERVASIVE OF WOMEN BEING OBJECTIFIED.
CULTURE PERVASIVE OF WOMEN BEING OBJECTIFIED.
YOU HAVE RELIGIOUS, CONSERVATIVE OBJECTIFIED.
YOU HAVE RELIGIOUS, CONSERVATIVE CLERICS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS YOU HAVE RELIGIOUS, CONSERVATIVE CLERICS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SAY THIS IS THE WOMEN'S FAULT CLERICS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SAY THIS IS THE WOMEN'S FAULT THEY SHOULD NOT BE MIXING WITH SAY THIS IS THE WOMEN'S FAULT THEY SHOULD NOT BE MIXING WITH MEN IN SOCIETY.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE MIXING WITH MEN IN SOCIETY.
THERE'S THIS UNDERLYING NATURE MEN IN SOCIETY.
THERE'S THIS UNDERLYING NATURE THERE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO THERE'S THIS UNDERLYING NATURE THERE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HELPED OVERNIGHT.
THERE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HELPED OVERNIGHT.
>> I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE BE HELPED OVERNIGHT.
>> I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE IT'S FABULOUS THAT THE WOMEN ARE >> I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE IT'S FABULOUS THAT THE WOMEN ARE STANDING UP THERE NOW AND IT'S FABULOUS THAT THE WOMEN ARE STANDING UP THERE NOW AND FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THESE STANDING UP THERE NOW AND FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THESE ASSAULTS.
FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THESE ASSAULTS.
BUT HOW -- THEY WERE ALSO VOTERS ASSAULTS.
BUT HOW -- THEY WERE ALSO VOTERS NOT JUST PROTESTERS IN THE ARAB BUT HOW -- THEY WERE ALSO VOTERS NOT JUST PROTESTERS IN THE ARAB SPRING HOW COULD THEY ELECT A NOT JUST PROTESTERS IN THE ARAB SPRING HOW COULD THEY ELECT A GUY WHO WOULD TURN OUT TO BE SO SPRING HOW COULD THEY ELECT A GUY WHO WOULD TURN OUT TO BE SO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT GUY WHO WOULD TURN OUT TO BE SO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE VOTING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE VOTING FOR.
THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE VOTING FOR.
>> WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME FOR.
>> WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME VOTERS HAVE VOTED FOR SOMEONE >> WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME VOTERS HAVE VOTED FOR SOMEONE BASED ON HOW THEY PRESENTED VOTERS HAVE VOTED FOR SOMEONE BASED ON HOW THEY PRESENTED THEMSELVES DURING AN ELECTION BASED ON HOW THEY PRESENTED THEMSELVES DURING AN ELECTION THEN TURNED OUT TO BE SOMETHING THEMSELVES DURING AN ELECTION THEN TURNED OUT TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THEN TURNED OUT TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
>> THE WOMEN DIDN'T ELECT THIS DIFFERENT.
>> THE WOMEN DIDN'T ELECT THIS LEADER.
>> THE WOMEN DIDN'T ELECT THIS LEADER.
THE ONLY ORGANIZED POLITICAL IN LEADER.
THE ONLY ORGANIZED POLITICAL IN THE SOCIETY AFTER THE ARAB THE ONLY ORGANIZED POLITICAL IN THE SOCIETY AFTER THE ARAB SPRING IN EGYPT WAS THE MUSLIM THE SOCIETY AFTER THE ARAB SPRING IN EGYPT WAS THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
SPRING IN EGYPT WAS THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND BROTHERHOOD.
THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE KIND OF PARLIAMENT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE KIND OF PARLIAMENT GOVERNMENT WHERE THE MINORITY THE KIND OF PARLIAMENT GOVERNMENT WHERE THE MINORITY HAS SOME SAY AND THEY DID A TAKE GOVERNMENT WHERE THE MINORITY HAS SOME SAY AND THEY DID A TAKE OVER.
HAS SOME SAY AND THEY DID A TAKE OVER.
THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.
OVER.
THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.
>> OBVIOUSLY MORSI HASN'T BEEN A THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.
>> OBVIOUSLY MORSI HASN'T BEEN A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW >> OBVIOUSLY MORSI HASN'T BEEN A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW EGYPTIANS SHOULD FEEL ABOUT GOOD REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW EGYPTIANS SHOULD FEEL ABOUT WOMEN'S EQUALITY.
EGYPTIANS SHOULD FEEL ABOUT WOMEN'S EQUALITY.
THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON HE'S WOMEN'S EQUALITY.
THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON HE'S BEING PROTESTED.
THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON HE'S BEING PROTESTED.
HE'S BEEN BAD FOR ECONOMIC BEING PROTESTED.
HE'S BEEN BAD FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN THE COUNTRY.
HE'S BEEN BAD FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN THE COUNTRY.
HE'S HAD NOTHING BUT DISDAIN FOR OPPORTUNITY IN THE COUNTRY.
HE'S HAD NOTHING BUT DISDAIN FOR CIVIL SOCIETY.
HE'S HAD NOTHING BUT DISDAIN FOR CIVIL SOCIETY.
NOT JUST FAILURE ON HIS BEHALF CIVIL SOCIETY.
NOT JUST FAILURE ON HIS BEHALF TO RECOGNIZE WOMEN'S RIGHTS BUT NOT JUST FAILURE ON HIS BEHALF TO RECOGNIZE WOMEN'S RIGHTS BUT A FAILURE ACROSS THE BOARD.
TO RECOGNIZE WOMEN'S RIGHTS BUT A FAILURE ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> HE'S TRYING TO BECOME A A FAILURE ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> HE'S TRYING TO BECOME A DICTATOR.
>> HE'S TRYING TO BECOME A DICTATOR.
HE -- THE CONSTITUTION, AND DICTATOR.
HE -- THE CONSTITUTION, AND TRIED TO PUT ONE IN THAT MADE HE -- THE CONSTITUTION, AND TRIED TO PUT ONE IN THAT MADE HIM -- TRIED TO PUT ONE IN THAT MADE HIM -- >> RIGHT.
HIM -- >> RIGHT.
>> COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND >> RIGHT.
>> COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND SUPREME LEADER.
>> COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND SUPREME LEADER.
>> WE MAKE A MISTAKE WHEN WE SUPREME LEADER.
>> WE MAKE A MISTAKE WHEN WE THINK THAT WOMEN'S ONLY INTEREST >> WE MAKE A MISTAKE WHEN WE THINK THAT WOMEN'S ONLY INTEREST IN POLITICS IS WOMEN'S ISSUES.
THINK THAT WOMEN'S ONLY INTEREST IN POLITICS IS WOMEN'S ISSUES.
BUT A LOT OF THESE WOMEN WHO ARE IN POLITICS IS WOMEN'S ISSUES.
BUT A LOT OF THESE WOMEN WHO ARE PROTESTING ARE SEEING THE BUT A LOT OF THESE WOMEN WHO ARE PROTESTING ARE SEEING THE BROADBAND WIDTH OF ISSUES WHERE PROTESTING ARE SEEING THE BROADBAND WIDTH OF ISSUES WHERE HE'S A FAILURE.
BROADBAND WIDTH OF ISSUES WHERE HE'S A FAILURE.
>> BUT IT'S MANIFESTING ITSELF, HE'S A FAILURE.
>> BUT IT'S MANIFESTING ITSELF, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE WOMAN WE >> BUT IT'S MANIFESTING ITSELF, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE WOMAN WE INTERVIEWED HE IS -- MORS SIX IF YOU LISTEN TO THE WOMAN WE INTERVIEWED HE IS -- MORS SIX CREATING THESE GANGS OF THUGS INTERVIEWED HE IS -- MORS SIX CREATING THESE GANGS OF THUGS WHO GO OUT AND TRY TO -- ASSAULT CREATING THESE GANGS OF THUGS WHO GO OUT AND TRY TO -- ASSAULT WOMEN SEXUALLY AS A TOOL, TALK WHO GO OUT AND TRY TO -- ASSAULT WOMEN SEXUALLY AS A TOOL, TALK ABOUT RACE BECOMING A TOOL OF WOMEN SEXUALLY AS A TOOL, TALK ABOUT RACE BECOMING A TOOL OF WAR.
ABOUT RACE BECOMING A TOOL OF WAR.
HERE IT'S A TOOL OF -- WAR.
HERE IT'S A TOOL OF -- ATTEMPTING TO BE A THEOCRACY.
HERE IT'S A TOOL OF -- ATTEMPTING TO BE A THEOCRACY.
>> HOBBSLY THE WOMEN ARE ATTEMPTING TO BE A THEOCRACY.
>> HOBBSLY THE WOMEN ARE STANDING UP AND FIGHTING IT >> HOBBSLY THE WOMEN ARE STANDING UP AND FIGHTING IT THEY'RE ENGAGING MEN TO SUPPORT STANDING UP AND FIGHTING IT THEY'RE ENGAGING MEN TO SUPPORT THAT FIGHT WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY THEY'RE ENGAGING MEN TO SUPPORT THAT FIGHT WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL YOU NEED BOTH WOMEN AND THAT FIGHT WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL YOU NEED BOTH WOMEN AND MEN TO STAND UP AGAINST SEXUAL CRITICAL YOU NEED BOTH WOMEN AND MEN TO STAND UP AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULT.
MEN TO STAND UP AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULT.
>> ELEANOR, WHEN YOU ARE ASSAULT.
>> ELEANOR, WHEN YOU ARE INVOLVED IN FOREIGN POLICY >> ELEANOR, WHEN YOU ARE INVOLVED IN FOREIGN POLICY DISCUSSIONS IN CONGRESS, DOES IT INVOLVED IN FOREIGN POLICY DISCUSSIONS IN CONGRESS, DOES IT EVER COME UP THAT -- AND DISCUSSIONS IN CONGRESS, DOES IT EVER COME UP THAT -- AND PARTICULARLY THE ARAB COUNTRIES EVER COME UP THAT -- AND PARTICULARLY THE ARAB COUNTRIES ARE SO TRICKY BECAUSE LIKE WE PARTICULARLY THE ARAB COUNTRIES ARE SO TRICKY BECAUSE LIKE WE SEE IN SYRIA OBVIOUSLY WHATASAD ARE SO TRICKY BECAUSE LIKE WE SEE IN SYRIA OBVIOUSLY WHATASAD IS DOING ASK HORRENDOUS, BUT SEE IN SYRIA OBVIOUSLY WHATASAD IS DOING ASK HORRENDOUS, BUT SOME OF HIS SO-CALLED FREEDOM IS DOING ASK HORRENDOUS, BUT SOME OF HIS SO-CALLED FREEDOM FIGHTERS FIGHTING AGAINST HIS SOME OF HIS SO-CALLED FREEDOM FIGHTERS FIGHTING AGAINST HIS REGIME ARE MEMBERS OF THE FIGHTERS FIGHTING AGAINST HIS REGIME ARE MEMBERS OF THE TALIBAN.
REGIME ARE MEMBERS OF THE TALIBAN.
YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW HOW YOU GO TALIBAN.
YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW HOW YOU GO IN AND WHO YOU HELP.
YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW HOW YOU GO IN AND WHO YOU HELP.
HOW IS THAT COMPLICATED BY THE IN AND WHO YOU HELP.
HOW IS THAT COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT SEXUAL ASSAULT IS HOW IS THAT COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT SEXUAL ASSAULT IS INVOLVED HERE IN EGYPT?
FACT THAT SEXUAL ASSAULT IS INVOLVED HERE IN EGYPT?
>> HORRIFICALLY SO.
INVOLVED HERE IN EGYPT?
>> HORRIFICALLY SO.
BECAUSE YOU WILL FIND THE WOMEN >> HORRIFICALLY SO.
BECAUSE YOU WILL FIND THE WOMEN AND CONGRESS WHO HAVE BEEN BECAUSE YOU WILL FIND THE WOMEN AND CONGRESS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPATIENT AS IT IS WITH THIS AND CONGRESS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPATIENT AS IT IS WITH THIS REVOLUTION, WITH A GROWING IMPATIENT AS IT IS WITH THIS REVOLUTION, WITH A GROWING NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE REVOLUTION, WITH A GROWING NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS WONDERING WHY WE'RE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS WONDERING WHY WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE EGYPTIAN.
CONGRESS WONDERING WHY WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE EGYPTIAN.
HERE IS WHERE POLITICS GETS -- CONTRIBUTING TO THE EGYPTIAN.
HERE IS WHERE POLITICS GETS -- >> HOW MUCH DO WE GIVE -- HERE IS WHERE POLITICS GETS -- >> HOW MUCH DO WE GIVE -- >> BILLIONS EACH YEAR.
>> HOW MUCH DO WE GIVE -- >> BILLIONS EACH YEAR.
THAT WAS A PART OF AN AGREEMENT >> BILLIONS EACH YEAR.
THAT WAS A PART OF AN AGREEMENT WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT THAT WAS A PART OF AN AGREEMENT WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT HELPED US SETTLE ANYTHING IN THE WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT HELPED US SETTLE ANYTHING IN THE MID EAST DURING THE CARTER HELPED US SETTLE ANYTHING IN THE MID EAST DURING THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION.
MID EAST DURING THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION.
EGYPT GETS THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT, ADMINISTRATION.
EGYPT GETS THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT, ISREAL GETS THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT.
EGYPT GETS THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT, ISREAL GETS THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT.
EACH ADMINISTRATION, ISREAL GETS THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT.
EACH ADMINISTRATION, PARTICULARLY WHERE THERE'S BEEN EACH ADMINISTRATION, PARTICULARLY WHERE THERE'S BEEN A RULE OF LAW AND THERE'S BEEN PARTICULARLY WHERE THERE'S BEEN A RULE OF LAW AND THERE'S BEEN AN ELECTION YEAR HAVE TENDED TO A RULE OF LAW AND THERE'S BEEN AN ELECTION YEAR HAVE TENDED TO AT LEAST WAIT AND NOT TO JUMP IN AN ELECTION YEAR HAVE TENDED TO AT LEAST WAIT AND NOT TO JUMP IN AND HERE WE HAVE A REGIME THAT AT LEAST WAIT AND NOT TO JUMP IN AND HERE WE HAVE A REGIME THAT IS BARELY A YEAR OLD.
AND HERE WE HAVE A REGIME THAT IS BARELY A YEAR OLD.
SO THIS IS TRAGIC, BECAUSE IF IS BARELY A YEAR OLD.
SO THIS IS TRAGIC, BECAUSE IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE SO THIS IS TRAGIC, BECAUSE IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE ONCE AGAIN WHO CREATED ORDER, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE ONCE AGAIN WHO CREATED ORDER, THE MILITARY.
ONCE AGAIN WHO CREATED ORDER, THE MILITARY.
FRANKLY THEY'RE THE ONES THAT THE MILITARY.
FRANKLY THEY'RE THE ONES THAT BROUGHT DEMOCRACY TO EGYPT AND FRANKLY THEY'RE THE ONES THAT BROUGHT DEMOCRACY TO EGYPT AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO INTERVENE AND BROUGHT DEMOCRACY TO EGYPT AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO INTERVENE AND DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.
THEY'RE ABOUT TO INTERVENE AND DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.
>> YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.
>> YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MILITARY AID GOING TO -- >> YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MILITARY AID GOING TO -- HUMANITARIAN AID GOING TO A MILITARY AID GOING TO -- HUMANITARIAN AID GOING TO A REGIME THAT IS SO CLEARLY HUMANITARIAN AID GOING TO A REGIME THAT IS SO CLEARLY ANTI-FEMALE?
REGIME THAT IS SO CLEARLY ANTI-FEMALE?
>> I THINK WE'VE LEARNED THAT ANTI-FEMALE?
>> I THINK WE'VE LEARNED THAT THE UNITED STATES AND FOREIGN >> I THINK WE'VE LEARNED THAT THE UNITED STATES AND FOREIGN POLICY NEEDS THAT CLEARLY THE UNITED STATES AND FOREIGN POLICY NEEDS THAT CLEARLY DEFINED GOALS, WHAT EXACTLY IS POLICY NEEDS THAT CLEARLY DEFINED GOALS, WHAT EXACTLY IS OUR NATIONAL INTEREST HERE AND DEFINED GOALS, WHAT EXACTLY IS OUR NATIONAL INTEREST HERE AND WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE INTEREST OUR NATIONAL INTEREST HERE AND WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE INTEREST OF EGYPTIANS, I THINK NOW IS NOT WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE INTEREST OF EGYPTIANS, I THINK NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR US TO BE INVOLVED OF EGYPTIANS, I THINK NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN EITHER SIDE OF THIS CONFLICT THE TIME FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN EITHER SIDE OF THIS CONFLICT IN EGYPT.
IN EITHER SIDE OF THIS CONFLICT IN EGYPT.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU FROM MANY IN EGYPT.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU FROM MANY PRACTICAL REASONS, IT'S HARD TO >> I AGREE WITH YOU FROM MANY PRACTICAL REASONS, IT'S HARD TO SIT THERE AND WATCH -- PRACTICAL REASONS, IT'S HARD TO SIT THERE AND WATCH -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
SIT THERE AND WATCH -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> -- GANG RAPES ON SUCH A >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> -- GANG RAPES ON SUCH A MASSIVE SCALE.
>> -- GANG RAPES ON SUCH A MASSIVE SCALE.
>> THEN AGAIN THE AMERICAN WAY MASSIVE SCALE.
>> THEN AGAIN THE AMERICAN WAY CAN'T FIX IT OVERNIGHT.
>> THEN AGAIN THE AMERICAN WAY CAN'T FIX IT OVERNIGHT.
WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH OVER CAN'T FIX IT OVERNIGHT.
WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH OVER THERE IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH OVER THERE IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE CULTURE WE HAVE OVER HERE.
THERE IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE CULTURE WE HAVE OVER HERE.
WE HAVE A RIGHTS HIGHWAY BASED CULTURE WE HAVE OVER HERE.
WE HAVE A RIGHTS HIGHWAY BASED DEMOCRATIC CULTURE HERE.
WE HAVE A RIGHTS HIGHWAY BASED DEMOCRATIC CULTURE HERE.
OVER THERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A DEMOCRATIC CULTURE HERE.
OVER THERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME FOR WOMEN TO RAISE OVER THERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME FOR WOMEN TO RAISE THEIR VOICES POLITICALLY JUST LONG TIME FOR WOMEN TO RAISE THEIR VOICES POLITICALLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THEIR VOICES POLITICALLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE CULTURALLY.
BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE CULTURALLY.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE THIS OVERNIGHT.
IN PLACE CULTURALLY.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE THIS OVERNIGHT.
NOR SHOULD AMERICANS TRY.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE THIS OVERNIGHT.
NOR SHOULD AMERICANS TRY.
WE SHOULD CERTAINLY TAKE A GOOD NOR SHOULD AMERICANS TRY.
WE SHOULD CERTAINLY TAKE A GOOD LOOK WHERE WE'RE THROWING OUR WE SHOULD CERTAINLY TAKE A GOOD LOOK WHERE WE'RE THROWING OUR MONEY.
LOOK WHERE WE'RE THROWING OUR MONEY.
>> DEFINITELY SO.
MONEY.
>> DEFINITELY SO.
LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
>> DEFINITELY SO.
LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
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FROM WOMEN'S RIGHTS TO WOMEN'S @BONNIEERBE.
FROM WOMEN'S RIGHTS TO WOMEN'S VISIBILITY FROM WOMEN'S RIGHTS TO WOMEN'S VISIBILITY IF YOU GO TO THE MOVIES, AS MOST VISIBILITY IF YOU GO TO THE MOVIES, AS MOST OF US DO THIS SUMMER, YOU MIGHT IF YOU GO TO THE MOVIES, AS MOST OF US DO THIS SUMMER, YOU MIGHT SEE SUPERMAN, GIANT ROBOTS, OR OF US DO THIS SUMMER, YOU MIGHT SEE SUPERMAN, GIANT ROBOTS, OR ZOMBIES.
SEE SUPERMAN, GIANT ROBOTS, OR ZOMBIES.
BUT ONE THING YOU'LL SEE LESS OF ZOMBIES.
BUT ONE THING YOU'LL SEE LESS OF ARE FEMALE CHARACTERS WITH BUT ONE THING YOU'LL SEE LESS OF ARE FEMALE CHARACTERS WITH SPEAKING ROLES.
ARE FEMALE CHARACTERS WITH SPEAKING ROLES.
ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT SPEAKING ROLES.
ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT ONLY 28% OF SPEAKING CHARACTERS ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT ONLY 28% OF SPEAKING CHARACTERS FROM LAST YEAR'S BIGGEST MOVIES ONLY 28% OF SPEAKING CHARACTERS FROM LAST YEAR'S BIGGEST MOVIES WERE FEMALE, DOWN FROM 33% FIVE FROM LAST YEAR'S BIGGEST MOVIES WERE FEMALE, DOWN FROM 33% FIVE YEARS AGO.
WERE FEMALE, DOWN FROM 33% FIVE YEARS AGO.
WHILE "THE HEAT," A BUDDY COP YEARS AGO.
WHILE "THE HEAT," A BUDDY COP MOVIE WRITTEN BY A WOMAN WITH WHILE "THE HEAT," A BUDDY COP MOVIE WRITTEN BY A WOMAN WITH TWO FEMALE LEADS, OPENED LAST MOVIE WRITTEN BY A WOMAN WITH TWO FEMALE LEADS, OPENED LAST WEEK, THAT'S AN ANOMALY.
TWO FEMALE LEADS, OPENED LAST WEEK, THAT'S AN ANOMALY.
WOMEN MAKE UP ONLY ABOUT A TENTH WEEK, THAT'S AN ANOMALY.
WOMEN MAKE UP ONLY ABOUT A TENTH OF ALL WRITERS AND DIRECTORS.
WOMEN MAKE UP ONLY ABOUT A TENTH OF ALL WRITERS AND DIRECTORS.
AND ACCORDING TO ACTOR GEENA OF ALL WRITERS AND DIRECTORS.
AND ACCORDING TO ACTOR GEENA DAVIS, WHOSE INSTITUTE TRACKS AND ACCORDING TO ACTOR GEENA DAVIS, WHOSE INSTITUTE TRACKS WOMEN IN MEDIA, AT THE CURRENT DAVIS, WHOSE INSTITUTE TRACKS WOMEN IN MEDIA, AT THE CURRENT RATE IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 700 WOMEN IN MEDIA, AT THE CURRENT RATE IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 700 YEARS FOR WOMEN TO REACH PARITY RATE IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 700 YEARS FOR WOMEN TO REACH PARITY IN HOLLYWOOD.
YEARS FOR WOMEN TO REACH PARITY IN HOLLYWOOD.
WHY, RINA ARE WE GOING IN HOLLYWOOD.
WHY, RINA ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS?
WHY, RINA ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS?
I MEAN WE SHOULD BE MOVING BACKWARDS?
I MEAN WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.
I MEAN WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.
>> WE SHOULD BE, WHAT'S GOING ON FORWARD.
>> WE SHOULD BE, WHAT'S GOING ON IS THAT THERE STREET THIS GLASS >> WE SHOULD BE, WHAT'S GOING ON IS THAT THERE STREET THIS GLASS CEILING THERE FOR WOMEN IN FILM, IS THAT THERE STREET THIS GLASS CEILING THERE FOR WOMEN IN FILM, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO THINK TO CEILING THERE FOR WOMEN IN FILM, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO THINK TO BE DIRECTORS.
PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO THINK TO BE DIRECTORS.
WHERE ARE THE WOMEN FILM BE DIRECTORS.
WHERE ARE THE WOMEN FILM DIRECTORS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
WHERE ARE THE WOMEN FILM DIRECTORS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
I WANT TO LOOK AT THE ACTRESSES, DIRECTORS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
I WANT TO LOOK AT THE ACTRESSES, THERE ARE STRONG WOMEN SUCH AS I WANT TO LOOK AT THE ACTRESSES, THERE ARE STRONG WOMEN SUCH AS HALLE BERRY ANOTHER WOMAN OF THERE ARE STRONG WOMEN SUCH AS HALLE BERRY ANOTHER WOMAN OF COLOR LIKE ME.
HALLE BERRY ANOTHER WOMAN OF COLOR LIKE ME.
LIKE JENNIFER GARNER FROM MY COLOR LIKE ME.
LIKE JENNIFER GARNER FROM MY HOME STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA.
LIKE JENNIFER GARNER FROM MY HOME STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA.
THEY HAVE COME TO STAGES HOME STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA.
THEY HAVE COME TO STAGES ACCEPTED AWARDS UPON AWARDS THEY THEY HAVE COME TO STAGES ACCEPTED AWARDS UPON AWARDS THEY SHATTERED THE HEELINGS.
ACCEPTED AWARDS UPON AWARDS THEY SHATTERED THE HEELINGS.
HERE IS WHAT'S DIFFERENT, THEY SHATTERED THE HEELINGS.
HERE IS WHAT'S DIFFERENT, THEY LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL MERIT, THEY HERE IS WHAT'S DIFFERENT, THEY LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL MERIT, THEY GET SOMEWHERE NOT BY LOOKING AT LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL MERIT, THEY GET SOMEWHERE NOT BY LOOKING AT THE COLLECTIVE THEY'RE GOING GET SOMEWHERE NOT BY LOOKING AT THE COLLECTIVE THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE BASED ON THEIR THE COLLECTIVE THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL MERIT.
SOMEWHERE BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL MERIT.
WHO ARE THE ROLE MODELS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL MERIT.
WHO ARE THE ROLE MODELS FOR THE ROLE MODELS, RIGHT?
WHO ARE THE ROLE MODELS FOR THE ROLE MODELS, RIGHT?
THESE WOMEN SEEK TO BE ROLE MODELS, RIGHT?
THESE WOMEN SEEK TO BE TRAILBLAZERS, I'M OPTIMISTIC THESE WOMEN SEEK TO BE TRAILBLAZERS, I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN.
TRAILBLAZERS, I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN.
THIS EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN.
THIS EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
BUT US FORCING ROLES AND THINGS THIS EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
BUT US FORCING ROLES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT CAN'T HAPPEN BUT US FORCING ROLES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT CAN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
OF THAT SORT CAN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
>> BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN?
OVERNIGHT.
>> BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN?
IN HEIGHT OF THE FIGURES ON >> BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN?
IN HEIGHT OF THE FIGURES ON FEMALE ROLES, WE ARE HALF OF THE IN HEIGHT OF THE FIGURES ON FEMALE ROLES, WE ARE HALF OF THE BOX OFFICE, WE'RE TAKING THIS?
FEMALE ROLES, WE ARE HALF OF THE BOX OFFICE, WE'RE TAKING THIS?
FOR GOODNESS SAKES THAT'S HOW WE BOX OFFICE, WE'RE TAKING THIS?
FOR GOODNESS SAKES THAT'S HOW WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
FOR GOODNESS SAKES THAT'S HOW WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE HELPED MAKE THIS INDUSTRY IN TO I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE HELPED MAKE THIS INDUSTRY IN TO AN INTERNATIONAL INDUSTRY SO HELPED MAKE THIS INDUSTRY IN TO AN INTERNATIONAL INDUSTRY SO PEOPLE WANT TO SEMEN DOING THESE AN INTERNATIONAL INDUSTRY SO PEOPLE WANT TO SEMEN DOING THESE GOOFY THINGS AND THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE WANT TO SEMEN DOING THESE GOOFY THINGS AND THEY ARE NOT CATERING TO THESE WOMEN WHO ARE GOOFY THINGS AND THEY ARE NOT CATERING TO THESE WOMEN WHO ARE HELPING TO CREATE THE INDUSTRY CATERING TO THESE WOMEN WHO ARE HELPING TO CREATE THE INDUSTRY HERE WHO MAKE THE INDUSTRY RUN HELPING TO CREATE THE INDUSTRY HERE WHO MAKE THE INDUSTRY RUN THEY ARE CATERING TO SOME HERE WHO MAKE THE INDUSTRY RUN THEY ARE CATERING TO SOME INTERNATIONAL WHOEVER, GROUP OF THEY ARE CATERING TO SOME INTERNATIONAL WHOEVER, GROUP OF MEN AROUND THE WORLD WHO SAY, INTERNATIONAL WHOEVER, GROUP OF MEN AROUND THE WORLD WHO SAY, WELL, LET THE AMERICANS GIVE US MEN AROUND THE WORLD WHO SAY, WELL, LET THE AMERICANS GIVE US WHAT WE WANT AND FORGET WHAT WELL, LET THE AMERICANS GIVE US WHAT WE WANT AND FORGET WHAT THEIR OWN -- WHAT THEIR OWN HALF WHAT WE WANT AND FORGET WHAT THEIR OWN -- WHAT THEIR OWN HALF OF THEIR POPULATION WANTS.
THEIR OWN -- WHAT THEIR OWN HALF OF THEIR POPULATION WANTS.
TO RISE UP AS OF THEIR POPULATION WANTS.
TO RISE UP AS CONSUMERS.
TO RISE UP AS CONSUMERS.
>> WHEN WE DECIDED TO DO THIS CONSUMERS.
>> WHEN WE DECIDED TO DO THIS TOPIC THIS WEEK I WENT ONLINE >> WHEN WE DECIDED TO DO THIS TOPIC THIS WEEK I WENT ONLINE AND I LOOKED AT LIONS GATE TOPIC THIS WEEK I WENT ONLINE AND I LOOKED AT LIONS GATE PRODUCES SOME OF THE MOST AND I LOOKED AT LIONS GATE PRODUCES SOME OF THE MOST QUALITY FILMS COMING OUT PRODUCES SOME OF THE MOST QUALITY FILMS COMING OUT HOLLYWOOD I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE QUALITY FILMS COMING OUT HOLLYWOOD I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE ON THEIR WEBSITE, ANYWAY, ALL OF HOLLYWOOD I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE ON THEIR WEBSITE, ANYWAY, ALL OF THEIR TOP MANAGERS ARE WHITE ON THEIR WEBSITE, ANYWAY, ALL OF THEIR TOP MANAGERS ARE WHITE MALES.
THEIR TOP MANAGERS ARE WHITE MALES.
ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT OF THOSE MALES.
ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT CATEGORY.
ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT CATEGORY.
THEN THEY SHOW THEIR BOARD OF PEOPLE IN THAT CATEGORY.
THEN THEY SHOW THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND TEN OR 12 BOARD OF THEN THEY SHOW THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND TEN OR 12 BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ONE WOMAN.
DIRECTORS AND TEN OR 12 BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ONE WOMAN.
NOBODY AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T SHOW DIRECTORS, ONE WOMAN.
NOBODY AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T SHOW PICTURES, DIDN'T SEEM LIKE NOBODY AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T SHOW PICTURES, DIDN'T SEEM LIKE ANYBODY OF COLOR.
PICTURES, DIDN'T SEEM LIKE ANYBODY OF COLOR.
HOW CAN THEY BE GETTING AWAY ANYBODY OF COLOR.
HOW CAN THEY BE GETTING AWAY WITH THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE?
HOW CAN THEY BE GETTING AWAY WITH THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE?
>> AGAIN, THIS IS THENG, WITH THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE?
>> AGAIN, THIS IS THENG, THIS IS LONG BEEN THE CULTURE, >> AGAIN, THIS IS THENG, THIS IS LONG BEEN THE CULTURE, MEN IN HOLLYWOOD.
THIS IS LONG BEEN THE CULTURE, MEN IN HOLLYWOOD.
AT THE HIGHER AND UPPER ECHELON.
MEN IN HOLLYWOOD.
AT THE HIGHER AND UPPER ECHELON.
IT'S SOCIETAL.
AT THE HIGHER AND UPPER ECHELON.
IT'S SOCIETAL.
THEY CAN FIX IT BY LETTING WOMEN IT'S SOCIETAL.
THEY CAN FIX IT BY LETTING WOMEN IN THE BOARD ROOM MUCH LIKE THEY CAN FIX IT BY LETTING WOMEN IN THE BOARD ROOM MUCH LIKE OUTSIDE IN BUSINESS.
IN THE BOARD ROOM MUCH LIKE OUTSIDE IN BUSINESS.
WOMEN CAN HAVE A PLACE BUT OUTSIDE IN BUSINESS.
WOMEN CAN HAVE A PLACE BUT GETTING THERE BY COLLECTIVE WOMEN CAN HAVE A PLACE BUT GETTING THERE BY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING IS NOT THE WAY.
GETTING THERE BY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING IS NOT THE WAY.
HAVE TO TAKE INDIVIDUAL BARGAINING IS NOT THE WAY.
HAVE TO TAKE INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THERE.
HAVE TO TAKE INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THERE.
>> A LOT OF POWERFUL FEMALE RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THERE.
>> A LOT OF POWERFUL FEMALE ACTORS, THEY WANT TO BE CALLED >> A LOT OF POWERFUL FEMALE ACTORS, THEY WANT TO BE CALLED ACTORS NOW NOT ACTRESSES, BUT ACTORS, THEY WANT TO BE CALLED ACTORS NOW NOT ACTRESSES, BUT FEMALE ACTORS SUCH AS ANGELINA ACTORS NOW NOT ACTRESSES, BUT FEMALE ACTORS SUCH AS ANGELINA JOLIE ARE USING THEIR POWER AND FEMALE ACTORS SUCH AS ANGELINA JOLIE ARE USING THEIR POWER AND THEIR FINANCES TO PRODUCE AND JOLIE ARE USING THEIR POWER AND THEIR FINANCES TO PRODUCE AND DIRECT THEIR OWN MOVIES.
THEIR FINANCES TO PRODUCE AND DIRECT THEIR OWN MOVIES.
JOLIE DID IT A YEAR AND A HALF DIRECT THEIR OWN MOVIES.
JOLIE DID IT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WITH A MOVIE ABOUT RACE AS A JOLIE DID IT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WITH A MOVIE ABOUT RACE AS A TOOL OF WAR, THAT SHE SHOT IN AGO WITH A MOVIE ABOUT RACE AS A TOOL OF WAR, THAT SHE SHOT IN THE FORMER BOS KNEE I CAN'T-HERS TOOL OF WAR, THAT SHE SHOT IN THE FORMER BOS KNEE I CAN'T-HERS AREA.
THE FORMER BOS KNEE I CAN'T-HERS AREA.
AND SHE BUT THAT WAS A FLOP.
AREA.
AND SHE BUT THAT WAS A FLOP.
DO WOMEN HAVE TO -- WHEN THEY DO AND SHE BUT THAT WAS A FLOP.
DO WOMEN HAVE TO -- WHEN THEY DO GO OUT ON THEIR OWN DO THEY HAVE DO WOMEN HAVE TO -- WHEN THEY DO GO OUT ON THEIR OWN DO THEY HAVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT BECOMES GO OUT ON THEIR OWN DO THEY HAVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT BECOMES COMMERCIAL SUCCESS?
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT BECOMES COMMERCIAL SUCCESS?
SO THAT THEY CAN POP OUT MOVIES COMMERCIAL SUCCESS?
SO THAT THEY CAN POP OUT MOVIES THAT ARE -- THAT GIVE WOMEN SO THAT THEY CAN POP OUT MOVIES THAT ARE -- THAT GIVE WOMEN PARITY BUT ALSO MAKE MONEY AT THAT ARE -- THAT GIVE WOMEN PARITY BUT ALSO MAKE MONEY AT THE BOX OFFICE.
PARITY BUT ALSO MAKE MONEY AT THE BOX OFFICE.
>> I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT THE BOX OFFICE.
>> I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR COMMERCIAL >> I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR COMMERCIAL SUCCESS.
SHE WAS LOOKING FOR COMMERCIAL SUCCESS.
SHE HAS MONEY AND SHE WAS USING SUCCESS.
SHE HAS MONEY AND SHE WAS USING HER MONEY TO COVER SOMETHING SHE HAS MONEY AND SHE WAS USING HER MONEY TO COVER SOMETHING THAT SHE FELT -- HER MONEY TO COVER SOMETHING THAT SHE FELT -- >> IT WAS SOLD TO THEATERS.
THAT SHE FELT -- >> IT WAS SOLD TO THEATERS.
YOU GOT TO BELIEVE THAT SHE >> IT WAS SOLD TO THEATERS.
YOU GOT TO BELIEVE THAT SHE WASN'T LOOKING FOR THAT.
YOU GOT TO BELIEVE THAT SHE WASN'T LOOKING FOR THAT.
>> NO, I'M SURE THAT SHE WAS WASN'T LOOKING FOR THAT.
>> NO, I'M SURE THAT SHE WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THAT OUTCOME.
>> NO, I'M SURE THAT SHE WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THAT OUTCOME.
BUT IT REALLY IS IN GREAT PART DISAPPOINTED IN THAT OUTCOME.
BUT IT REALLY IS IN GREAT PART ABOUT THE MONEY.
BUT IT REALLY IS IN GREAT PART ABOUT THE MONEY.
IT'S THAT ARE THE FUNDERS FUND.
ABOUT THE MONEY.
IT'S THAT ARE THE FUNDERS FUND.
NOT JUST THE DIRECTORS OR THE IT'S THAT ARE THE FUNDERS FUND.
NOT JUST THE DIRECTORS OR THE ACTORS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE NOT JUST THE DIRECTORS OR THE ACTORS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY FOR THOSE DIRECTORS TO ACTORS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY FOR THOSE DIRECTORS TO DIRECT AND ACTORS TO ACT IN MONEY FOR THOSE DIRECTORS TO DIRECT AND ACTORS TO ACT IN WOMEN-FOCUSED MOVIES.
DIRECT AND ACTORS TO ACT IN WOMEN-FOCUSED MOVIES.
THERE IS A BELIEF, I DON'T THINK WOMEN-FOCUSED MOVIES.
THERE IS A BELIEF, I DON'T THINK IT'S TRUE, BUT THERE'S A THERE IS A BELIEF, I DON'T THINK IT'S TRUE, BUT THERE'S A WIDESPREAD BELIEF THAT WOMEN IT'S TRUE, BUT THERE'S A WIDESPREAD BELIEF THAT WOMEN WILL WATCH MOVIES ABOUT MEN BUT WIDESPREAD BELIEF THAT WOMEN WILL WATCH MOVIES ABOUT MEN BUT MEN WILL NOT WATCH MOVIES ABOUT WILL WATCH MOVIES ABOUT MEN BUT MEN WILL NOT WATCH MOVIES ABOUT WOMEN.
MEN WILL NOT WATCH MOVIES ABOUT WOMEN.
IF YOU MAKE MOVIES ABOUT MEN THE WOMEN.
IF YOU MAKE MOVIES ABOUT MEN THE WHOLE POPULATION WILL WATCH IF YOU MAKE MOVIES ABOUT MEN THE WHOLE POPULATION WILL WATCH THEM.
WHOLE POPULATION WILL WATCH THEM.
WHERE AS IF YOU MAKE MOVIES THEM.
WHERE AS IF YOU MAKE MOVIES ABOUT WOMEN FOR THE MOST PART WHERE AS IF YOU MAKE MOVIES ABOUT WOMEN FOR THE MOST PART THE MEN WON'T WATCH THEM.
ABOUT WOMEN FOR THE MOST PART THE MEN WON'T WATCH THEM.
THE SAME THING THEY DO BELIEVE THE MEN WON'T WATCH THEM.
THE SAME THING THEY DO BELIEVE IT OR NOT IN CARTOONS, VAST THE SAME THING THEY DO BELIEVE IT OR NOT IN CARTOONS, VAST MAJORITY OF CARTOON MOVIES HAVE IT OR NOT IN CARTOONS, VAST MAJORITY OF CARTOON MOVIES HAVE THE MALE MOUTH IS THE LEAD.
MAJORITY OF CARTOON MOVIES HAVE THE MALE MOUTH IS THE LEAD.
THE MALE PIG, THE MALE PAIR, THE THE MALE MOUTH IS THE LEAD.
THE MALE PIG, THE MALE PAIR, THE MALE SMURF DO THIS WITH CHILDREN THE MALE PIG, THE MALE PAIR, THE MALE SMURF DO THIS WITH CHILDREN I THINK WE'VE GOT TO -- MALE SMURF DO THIS WITH CHILDREN I THINK WE'VE GOT TO -- >> NOT ALL THE DISNEY PRINCESS, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO -- >> NOT ALL THE DISNEY PRINCESS, RIGHT.
>> NOT ALL THE DISNEY PRINCESS, RIGHT.
LIKE MOULAN WAS SERIOUSLY TOUGH RIGHT.
LIKE MOULAN WAS SERIOUSLY TOUGH WOMAN SHE WAS GREAT ROLE MODEL.
LIKE MOULAN WAS SERIOUSLY TOUGH WOMAN SHE WAS GREAT ROLE MODEL.
THERE'S LOT OF EXAMPLES HERE AND WOMAN SHE WAS GREAT ROLE MODEL.
THERE'S LOT OF EXAMPLES HERE AND THEREOF WOMEN CHARACTERS WHO WE THERE'S LOT OF EXAMPLES HERE AND THEREOF WOMEN CHARACTERS WHO WE SHOULD ALL ASPIRE TO BE LIKE THE THEREOF WOMEN CHARACTERS WHO WE SHOULD ALL ASPIRE TO BE LIKE THE HEROES THAT THEY ARE.
SHOULD ALL ASPIRE TO BE LIKE THE HEROES THAT THEY ARE.
BUT HOW THE CHARACTERS ARE HEROES THAT THEY ARE.
BUT HOW THE CHARACTERS ARE REPRESENTED.
BUT HOW THE CHARACTERS ARE REPRESENTED.
SOMETIMES PLAYING TO THE BAD REPRESENTED.
SOMETIMES PLAYING TO THE BAD STEREOTYPE BUT THEY DO THIS TO SOMETIMES PLAYING TO THE BAD STEREOTYPE BUT THEY DO THIS TO MEN, TOO.
STEREOTYPE BUT THEY DO THIS TO MEN, TOO.
THERE'S A HUGE INTEREST IN HOW MEN, TOO.
THERE'S A HUGE INTEREST IN HOW WOMEN ARE REPRESENTED IN THE THERE'S A HUGE INTEREST IN HOW WOMEN ARE REPRESENTED IN THE MEDIA.
WOMEN ARE REPRESENTED IN THE MEDIA.
WE REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW MEN ARE MEDIA.
WE REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW MEN ARE REPRESENTED BECAUSE WHILE THERE WE REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW MEN ARE REPRESENTED BECAUSE WHILE THERE ARE SOME SUPER MEN CHARACTERS REPRESENTED BECAUSE WHILE THERE ARE SOME SUPER MEN CHARACTERS THERE ARE A LOT OF FUDDY-DUD ARE SOME SUPER MEN CHARACTERS THERE ARE A LOT OF FUDDY-DUD DEINCOMPETENT MEN, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FUDDY-DUD DEINCOMPETENT MEN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
DEINCOMPETENT MEN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
>> AND SUPER HEROES ARE NOT -- THAT'S FAIR.
>> AND SUPER HEROES ARE NOT -- MAYBE SOMETHING LITTLE BOYS >> AND SUPER HEROES ARE NOT -- MAYBE SOMETHING LITTLE BOYS WOULD WANT TO EMULATE BUT NOT -- MAYBE SOMETHING LITTLE BOYS WOULD WANT TO EMULATE BUT NOT -- THEY HAVE THEIR DRAWBACKS, TOO.
WOULD WANT TO EMULATE BUT NOT -- THEY HAVE THEIR DRAWBACKS, TOO.
BUT YOU MADE A GREAT POINT, THEY HAVE THEIR DRAWBACKS, TOO.
BUT YOU MADE A GREAT POINT, ELEANOR, ABOUT -- THAT THESE BUT YOU MADE A GREAT POINT, ELEANOR, ABOUT -- THAT THESE MOVIES ARE CATERING TO ELEANOR, ABOUT -- THAT THESE MOVIES ARE CATERING TO INTERNATIONAL SALES.
MOVIES ARE CATERING TO INTERNATIONAL SALES.
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT TRYING TO INTERNATIONAL SALES.
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT TRYING TO GET WOMEN MORE POWERFUL IN THEIR WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT TRYING TO GET WOMEN MORE POWERFUL IN THEIR ROLES MORE REPRESENTATIVE IN GET WOMEN MORE POWERFUL IN THEIR ROLES MORE REPRESENTATIVE IN MOVIES MADE FOR AMERICAN ROLES MORE REPRESENTATIVE IN MOVIES MADE FOR AMERICAN AUDIENCES?
MOVIES MADE FOR AMERICAN AUDIENCES?
>> THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE HAVE AUDIENCES?
>> THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK.
>> THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK.
WOMEN WANT STORIES THE DECLINE TO WORK.
WOMEN WANT STORIES THE DECLINE OF THE NOVEL, DECLINE OF WOMEN WANT STORIES THE DECLINE OF THE NOVEL, DECLINE OF STORYTELLING DOES NOT HELP OF THE NOVEL, DECLINE OF STORYTELLING DOES NOT HELP WOMEN.
STORYTELLING DOES NOT HELP WOMEN.
YOU LOOK WHERE THE GREAT MOVIES WOMEN.
YOU LOOK WHERE THE GREAT MOVIES ARE.
YOU LOOK WHERE THE GREAT MOVIES ARE.
THEY'RE NOT ACTION MOVIES, THEY ARE.
THEY'RE NOT ACTION MOVIES, THEY ARE THE -- OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT ACTION MOVIES, THEY ARE THE -- OVER AND OVER AGAIN, TCM, AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THEM ARE THE -- OVER AND OVER AGAIN, TCM, AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
TCM, AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IF WE MAKE THOSE STORIES, THEY OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IF WE MAKE THOSE STORIES, THEY MAY NOT BE ABOUT WOMEN WE TAKE IF WE MAKE THOSE STORIES, THEY MAY NOT BE ABOUT WOMEN WE TAKE THE RISK AND THIS RISK-BASED MAY NOT BE ABOUT WOMEN WE TAKE THE RISK AND THIS RISK-BASED ECONOMY OF MAKING SOME OF THOSE THE RISK AND THIS RISK-BASED ECONOMY OF MAKING SOME OF THOSE GREAT STORIES FROM THE 21st ECONOMY OF MAKING SOME OF THOSE GREAT STORIES FROM THE 21st CENTURY, WE WILL BRING -- TEAM GREAT STORIES FROM THE 21st CENTURY, WE WILL BRING -- TEAM THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT THERE CENTURY, WE WILL BRING -- TEAM THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT THERE IS MORE TO AMERICAN FILMS THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT THERE IS MORE TO AMERICAN FILMS THAN JUMPING OUT OF SKYSCRAPERS AND IS MORE TO AMERICAN FILMS THAN JUMPING OUT OF SKYSCRAPERS AND SURVIVING.
JUMPING OUT OF SKYSCRAPERS AND SURVIVING.
>> EXACTLY.
SURVIVING.
>> EXACTLY.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES.
>> EXACTLY.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES.
A VERY DIFFERENT ISSUE, POVERTY BEHIND THE HEADLINES.
A VERY DIFFERENT ISSUE, POVERTY IN THE SUBURBS.
A VERY DIFFERENT ISSUE, POVERTY IN THE SUBURBS.
POVERTY USED TO BE SEEN AS A IN THE SUBURBS.
POVERTY USED TO BE SEEN AS A PRIMARILY RURAL AND URBAN ISSUE.
POVERTY USED TO BE SEEN AS A PRIMARILY RURAL AND URBAN ISSUE.
BUT IT'S BECOMING MORE OF A PRIMARILY RURAL AND URBAN ISSUE.
BUT IT'S BECOMING MORE OF A SUBURBAN PROBLEM AND ACTUALLY BUT IT'S BECOMING MORE OF A SUBURBAN PROBLEM AND ACTUALLY ROSE IN AMERICA'S SUBURBS BY 64% SUBURBAN PROBLEM AND ACTUALLY ROSE IN AMERICA'S SUBURBS BY 64% IN THE LAST DECADE.
ROSE IN AMERICA'S SUBURBS BY 64% IN THE LAST DECADE.
ELIZABETH KNEEBONE, AUTHOR OF IN THE LAST DECADE.
ELIZABETH KNEEBONE, AUTHOR OF CONFRONTING SUBURBAN POVERTY, ELIZABETH KNEEBONE, AUTHOR OF CONFRONTING SUBURBAN POVERTY, SAYS MANY FACTORS CAUSED THIS CONFRONTING SUBURBAN POVERTY, SAYS MANY FACTORS CAUSED THIS SHIFT.
SAYS MANY FACTORS CAUSED THIS SHIFT.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS SHIFT.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WE'VE SEEN POVERTY GROWING IN >> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WE'VE SEEN POVERTY GROWING IN THE SUBURBS.
WE'VE SEEN POVERTY GROWING IN THE SUBURBS.
THINKING GENERALLY THESE NUMBERS THE SUBURBS.
THINKING GENERALLY THESE NUMBERS CAN INCREASE EITHER AS LOW THINKING GENERALLY THESE NUMBERS CAN INCREASE EITHER AS LOW INCOME PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO CAN INCREASE EITHER AS LOW INCOME PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO THESE COMMUNITIES OR AS LONG INCOME PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO THESE COMMUNITIES OR AS LONG TERM RESIDENTS ARE SLIPPING DOWN THESE COMMUNITIES OR AS LONG TERM RESIDENTS ARE SLIPPING DOWN THE ECONOMIC LADDER AND WE'VE TERM RESIDENTS ARE SLIPPING DOWN THE ECONOMIC LADDER AND WE'VE SEEN A COMBINATION OF BOTH OF THE ECONOMIC LADDER AND WE'VE SEEN A COMBINATION OF BOTH OF THOSE FACTORS IN MOST OF OUR SEEN A COMBINATION OF BOTH OF THOSE FACTORS IN MOST OF OUR MAJOR METRO AREAS ACROSS THE THOSE FACTORS IN MOST OF OUR MAJOR METRO AREAS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
MAJOR METRO AREAS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> FOREIGN-BORN PEOPLE ACCOUNT COUNTRY.
>> FOREIGN-BORN PEOPLE ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT A THIRD OF THE >> FOREIGN-BORN PEOPLE ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT A THIRD OF THE POPULATION GROWTH IN THE FOR ABOUT A THIRD OF THE POPULATION GROWTH IN THE SUBURBS.
POPULATION GROWTH IN THE SUBURBS.
>> AS SUBURBS HAVE GROWN OVER SUBURBS.
>> AS SUBURBS HAVE GROWN OVER THE YEARS THEY'VE BECOME MORE >> AS SUBURBS HAVE GROWN OVER THE YEARS THEY'VE BECOME MORE DIVERSE BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND THE YEARS THEY'VE BECOME MORE DIVERSE BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND DEMOGRAPHICALLY.
DIVERSE BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND DEMOGRAPHICALLY.
PART OF THAT IS IMMIGRATION WE DEMOGRAPHICALLY.
PART OF THAT IS IMMIGRATION WE INCREASE SEEING THE IMMIGRANT PART OF THAT IS IMMIGRATION WE INCREASE SEEING THE IMMIGRANT FAMILIES LOCATING IN THE URBAN INCREASE SEEING THE IMMIGRANT FAMILIES LOCATING IN THE URBAN COMMUNITIES.
FAMILIES LOCATING IN THE URBAN COMMUNITIES.
BUT THAT'S NOT COMMUNITIES.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE DRIVING FORCE HERE.
OVERALL, BUT THAT'S NOT THE DRIVING FORCE HERE.
OVERALL, ACROSS OUR MAJOR METRO AREAS THE THE DRIVING FORCE HERE.
OVERALL, ACROSS OUR MAJOR METRO AREAS THE FOREIGN BORN POPULATION ACROSS OUR MAJOR METRO AREAS THE FOREIGN BORN POPULATION CONTRIBUTED TO ABOUT 17% OF THE FOREIGN BORN POPULATION CONTRIBUTED TO ABOUT 17% OF THE GROWTH IN THE SUBURBAN POOR CONTRIBUTED TO ABOUT 17% OF THE GROWTH IN THE SUBURBAN POOR POPULATION.
GROWTH IN THE SUBURBAN POOR POPULATION.
SO THE BULK OF THIS INCREASE POPULATION.
SO THE BULK OF THIS INCREASE THAT WE'VE SEEN ACTUALLY SO THE BULK OF THIS INCREASE THAT WE'VE SEEN ACTUALLY HAPPENED AMONG NATIVE-BORN THAT WE'VE SEEN ACTUALLY HAPPENED AMONG NATIVE-BORN RESIDENTS.
HAPPENED AMONG NATIVE-BORN RESIDENTS.
>> THE SHIFT FROM URBAN TO RESIDENTS.
>> THE SHIFT FROM URBAN TO SUBURBAN POVERTY STARTED BEFORE >> THE SHIFT FROM URBAN TO SUBURBAN POVERTY STARTED BEFORE THE RECESSION SUBURBAN POVERTY STARTED BEFORE THE RECESSION >> THE TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME THE RECESSION >> THE TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME WAS FALLING EVEN BEFORE THE >> THE TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME WAS FALLING EVEN BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION HIT, AND IN FACT WAS FALLING EVEN BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION HIT, AND IN FACT THIS TIPPING POINT WHERE WE NOW GREAT RECESSION HIT, AND IN FACT THIS TIPPING POINT WHERE WE NOW SEE MORE POOR LIVING IN SUBURBS THIS TIPPING POINT WHERE WE NOW SEE MORE POOR LIVING IN SUBURBS THAN IN CITIES THAT HAPPENED IN SEE MORE POOR LIVING IN SUBURBS THAN IN CITIES THAT HAPPENED IN THE EARLY 2000'S.
THAN IN CITIES THAT HAPPENED IN THE EARLY 2000'S.
EVEN BEFORE THE COLLAPSE OF THE THE EARLY 2000'S.
EVEN BEFORE THE COLLAPSE OF THE HOUSING MARKET.
EVEN BEFORE THE COLLAPSE OF THE HOUSING MARKET.
>> THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS HOUSING MARKET.
>> THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS LEVELING OUT THROUGHOUT THE >> THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS LEVELING OUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, BUT KNEEBONE SAYS LEVELING OUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, BUT KNEEBONE SAYS SUBURBAN AREAS WILL CONTINUE TO COUNTRY, BUT KNEEBONE SAYS SUBURBAN AREAS WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE.
SUBURBAN AREAS WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE.
>> WE TEND TO THINK ABOUT THE STRUGGLE.
>> WE TEND TO THINK ABOUT THE RECESSION BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT >> WE TEND TO THINK ABOUT THE RECESSION BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT WAS SO SEVERE AND TOUCHED SO RECESSION BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT WAS SO SEVERE AND TOUCHED SO MANY PEOPLE AND PLACES ACROSS WAS SO SEVERE AND TOUCHED SO MANY PEOPLE AND PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, CITIES, SUBURBS, MANY PEOPLE AND PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, CITIES, SUBURBS, RURAL COMMUNITIES ALIKE.
THE COUNTRY, CITIES, SUBURBS, RURAL COMMUNITIES ALIKE.
BUT IN FACT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RURAL COMMUNITIES ALIKE.
BUT IN FACT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SHIFT OF THE MAP OF POVERTY IN BUT IN FACT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SHIFT OF THE MAP OF POVERTY IN THIS COUNTRY, THIS WAS A LONGER SHIFT OF THE MAP OF POVERTY IN THIS COUNTRY, THIS WAS A LONGER RUNNING TREND, SINCE THE '80S THIS COUNTRY, THIS WAS A LONGER RUNNING TREND, SINCE THE '80S THE POOR POPULATION HAS BEEN RUNNING TREND, SINCE THE '80S THE POOR POPULATION HAS BEEN GROWING FASTER IN SUBURBS THAN THE POOR POPULATION HAS BEEN GROWING FASTER IN SUBURBS THAN IN CITIES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING GROWING FASTER IN SUBURBS THAN IN CITIES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PICKED UP PACE OVER TIME.
IN CITIES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PICKED UP PACE OVER TIME.
>> KNEEBONE SAYS A MORE THAT'S PICKED UP PACE OVER TIME.
>> KNEEBONE SAYS A MORE STRATEGIC USE OF GOVERNMENT >> KNEEBONE SAYS A MORE STRATEGIC USE OF GOVERNMENT RESOURCES ALREADY AVAILABLE TO STRATEGIC USE OF GOVERNMENT RESOURCES ALREADY AVAILABLE TO FIGHT POVERTY WOULD HELP FIGHT RESOURCES ALREADY AVAILABLE TO FIGHT POVERTY WOULD HELP FIGHT SUBURBAN POVERTY.
FIGHT POVERTY WOULD HELP FIGHT SUBURBAN POVERTY.
>> WHAT WE PROPOSE IN THE BOOK SUBURBAN POVERTY.
>> WHAT WE PROPOSE IN THE BOOK IS LOOKING AT THE $82 BILLION WE >> WHAT WE PROPOSE IN THE BOOK IS LOOKING AT THE $82 BILLION WE ARE ALREADY SPENDING.
IS LOOKING AT THE $82 BILLION WE ARE ALREADY SPENDING.
THIS IS A VERY FRAGMENTED POOL ARE ALREADY SPENDING.
THIS IS A VERY FRAGMENTED POOL OF MONEY, IT'S -- IT'S NOT THIS IS A VERY FRAGMENTED POOL OF MONEY, IT'S -- IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ADAPTED TO THE OF MONEY, IT'S -- IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ADAPTED TO THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE OF POVERTY IN NECESSARILY ADAPTED TO THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE OF POVERTY IN THIS COUNTY.
CURRENT LANDSCAPE OF POVERTY IN THIS COUNTY.
BUT BY JUST RE-PURPOSING A SMALL THIS COUNTY.
BUT BY JUST RE-PURPOSING A SMALL PORTION OF IT, 5%, THAT WOULD BE BUT BY JUST RE-PURPOSING A SMALL PORTION OF IT, 5%, THAT WOULD BE $4 BILLION TO CREATE A PORTION OF IT, 5%, THAT WOULD BE $4 BILLION TO CREATE A COMPETITIVE PROGRAM THAT WOULD $4 BILLION TO CREATE A COMPETITIVE PROGRAM THAT WOULD THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE WAY COMPETITIVE PROGRAM THAT WOULD THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE WAY WE CHANNEL SOURCES INTO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE WAY WE CHANNEL SOURCES INTO COMMUNITIES.
WE CHANNEL SOURCES INTO COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS MONEY WOULD ALSO BE COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS MONEY WOULD ALSO BE EXPECTED TO LEVERAGE PRIVATE AND THIS MONEY WOULD ALSO BE EXPECTED TO LEVERAGE PRIVATE FUNDS, SO THAT THE IMPACT WOULD EXPECTED TO LEVERAGE PRIVATE FUNDS, SO THAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST THAT $4 FUNDS, SO THAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST THAT $4 BILLION.
BE MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST THAT $4 BILLION.
>> SOME SUBURBS HAVE ALSO COME BILLION.
>> SOME SUBURBS HAVE ALSO COME UP WITH PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD >> SOME SUBURBS HAVE ALSO COME UP WITH PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD SERVE AS NATIONAL EXAMPLES.
UP WITH PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD SERVE AS NATIONAL EXAMPLES.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REALLY SERVE AS NATIONAL EXAMPLES.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REALLY PROMISING MODELS THAT WE'VE SEEN >> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REALLY PROMISING MODELS THAT WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT PROMISING MODELS THAT WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT REGIONS.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT REGIONS.
IN TERMS OF REGIONS THAT HAVE REGIONS.
IN TERMS OF REGIONS THAT HAVE ADAPTED TO THIS REALITY, THAT IN TERMS OF REGIONS THAT HAVE ADAPTED TO THIS REALITY, THAT SEE THAT URBAN AND SUBURBAN ADAPTED TO THIS REALITY, THAT SEE THAT URBAN AND SUBURBAN POVERTY ALIKE ARE A CHALLENGE IN SEE THAT URBAN AND SUBURBAN POVERTY ALIKE ARE A CHALLENGE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, I THINK YOU POVERTY ALIKE ARE A CHALLENGE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, I THINK YOU ORGANIZATION LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD THEIR COMMUNITIES, I THINK YOU ORGANIZATION LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WHICH IS HUMAN SERVICES ORGANIZATION LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WHICH IS HUMAN SERVICES ORGANIZATION THAT REALLY WORKS CENTERS WHICH IS HUMAN SERVICES ORGANIZATION THAT REALLY WORKS AT THE RIGHT SCALE IN TERMS OF ORGANIZATION THAT REALLY WORKS AT THE RIGHT SCALE IN TERMS OF TACKLING THESE ISSUES.
AT THE RIGHT SCALE IN TERMS OF TACKLING THESE ISSUES.
>> IS THAT IT EASY TO GET THE TACKLING THESE ISSUES.
>> IS THAT IT EASY TO GET THE MONEY TO FIGHT POVERTY TOGETHER >> IS THAT IT EASY TO GET THE MONEY TO FIGHT POVERTY TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE AND TRY TO FIGHT IT MONEY TO FIGHT POVERTY TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE AND TRY TO FIGHT IT MORE IN THE SUBURBS THAN IN ONE PLACE AND TRY TO FIGHT IT MORE IN THE SUBURBS THAN CURRENTLY THE AIM IN THE CITY?
MORE IN THE SUBURBS THAN CURRENTLY THE AIM IN THE CITY?
>> I THINK THE MONEY GOT CURRENTLY THE AIM IN THE CITY?
>> I THINK THE MONEY GOT SCATTERED ACROSS A LOT OF >> I THINK THE MONEY GOT SCATTERED ACROSS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES BECAUSE SCATTERED ACROSS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES BECAUSE THERE'S AN EFFORT TO FOCUS ON DIFFERENT AGENCIES BECAUSE THERE'S AN EFFORT TO FOCUS ON ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL THERE'S AN EFFORT TO FOCUS ON ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROBLEMS.
ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROBLEMS.
NEEDS MORE COORDINATION, NO PROBLEMS.
NEEDS MORE COORDINATION, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
NEEDS MORE COORDINATION, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
BUT CREATING A SUPER BUREAUCRACY DOUBT ABOUT IT.
BUT CREATING A SUPER BUREAUCRACY TO CONSUME ALL THIS I'M NOT SURE BUT CREATING A SUPER BUREAUCRACY TO CONSUME ALL THIS I'M NOT SURE IS A GREAT ANSWER, EITHER.
TO CONSUME ALL THIS I'M NOT SURE IS A GREAT ANSWER, EITHER.
>> WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT POVERTY IS A GREAT ANSWER, EITHER.
>> WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT POVERTY IN THE SUBURBS?
>> WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT POVERTY IN THE SUBURBS?
IT'S DIFFERENT IN -- IN THE SUBURBS?
IT'S DIFFERENT IN -- >> THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL THINGS IT'S DIFFERENT IN -- >> THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL THINGS THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS.
>> THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL THINGS THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS.
OBVIOUSLY JOBS IS A HUGE ISSUE, THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS.
OBVIOUSLY JOBS IS A HUGE ISSUE, IN MY AREA WE WORK WITH DOMESTIC OBVIOUSLY JOBS IS A HUGE ISSUE, IN MY AREA WE WORK WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS WHO FOR WHOM IN MY AREA WE WORK WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS WHO FOR WHOM HAVING A JOB OR GETTING A JOB VIOLENCE VICTIMS WHO FOR WHOM HAVING A JOB OR GETTING A JOB MEANS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE THE HAVING A JOB OR GETTING A JOB MEANS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE THE ECONOMIC MEANS TO LEAVE AN MEANS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE THE ECONOMIC MEANS TO LEAVE AN ABUSIVE SITUATION AND YET CAN'T ECONOMIC MEANS TO LEAVE AN ABUSIVE SITUATION AND YET CAN'T GET TRANSPORTATION TO THAT JOB, ABUSIVE SITUATION AND YET CAN'T GET TRANSPORTATION TO THAT JOB, THEY'RE TRAPPED IN AN ABUSIVE GET TRANSPORTATION TO THAT JOB, THEY'RE TRAPPED IN AN ABUSIVE HOLD.
THEY'RE TRAPPED IN AN ABUSIVE HOLD.
CREATING TRANSPORTATION IS A HOLD.
CREATING TRANSPORTATION IS A HUGE PART OF GETTING ACCESS TO CREATING TRANSPORTATION IS A HUGE PART OF GETTING ACCESS TO JOBS, WHEN THE JOBS ARE IN THE HUGE PART OF GETTING ACCESS TO JOBS, WHEN THE JOBS ARE IN THE URBAN AREAS AND YOU'RE IN A JOBS, WHEN THE JOBS ARE IN THE URBAN AREAS AND YOU'RE IN A SUBURBAN AREA OF POVERTY.
URBAN AREAS AND YOU'RE IN A SUBURBAN AREA OF POVERTY.
>> EVEN WHEN THEY'RE IN THE SUBURBAN AREA OF POVERTY.
>> EVEN WHEN THEY'RE IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS THEY DON'T HAVE >> EVEN WHEN THEY'RE IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS THEY DON'T HAVE THE TERRIFIC MASS TRANSPORTATION SUBURBAN AREAS THEY DON'T HAVE THE TERRIFIC MASS TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS THAT CITIES HAVE.
THE TERRIFIC MASS TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS THAT CITIES HAVE.
BUT, BONNIE, THE ONLY THING SYSTEMS THAT CITIES HAVE.
BUT, BONNIE, THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN POVERTY IS POVERTY BUT, BONNIE, THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN POVERTY IS POVERTY THAT IS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED.
WORSE THAN POVERTY IS POVERTY THAT IS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED.
AS SOME SUBURBS WOULD RATHER NOT THAT IS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED.
AS SOME SUBURBS WOULD RATHER NOT EVEN SULLY THEIR REPUTATION AS AS SOME SUBURBS WOULD RATHER NOT EVEN SULLY THEIR REPUTATION AS ANYTHING BUT THE PLACE TO MOVE EVEN SULLY THEIR REPUTATION AS ANYTHING BUT THE PLACE TO MOVE AND IF YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS ANYTHING BUT THE PLACE TO MOVE AND IF YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS PLACE IS GROWING WITH A LOT OF AND IF YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS PLACE IS GROWING WITH A LOT OF POOR PEOPLE, THEY FEAR THE PLACE IS GROWING WITH A LOT OF POOR PEOPLE, THEY FEAR THE REPUTATION OF THE SUBURBAN POOR PEOPLE, THEY FEAR THE REPUTATION OF THE SUBURBAN COMMUNITY OF THEMSELVES.
REPUTATION OF THE SUBURBAN COMMUNITY OF THEMSELVES.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY COMMUNITY OF THEMSELVES.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY ALLOWED SUBURBAN POVERTY TO GROW BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY ALLOWED SUBURBAN POVERTY TO GROW SO THAT IT'S WORSE NOW THAN ALLOWED SUBURBAN POVERTY TO GROW SO THAT IT'S WORSE NOW THAN URBAN.
SO THAT IT'S WORSE NOW THAN URBAN.
SO WHAT HAPPENED TO URBAN URBAN.
SO WHAT HAPPENED TO URBAN POVERTY.
SO WHAT HAPPENED TO URBAN POVERTY.
A LOT HAPPENED IT TO.
POVERTY.
A LOT HAPPENED IT TO.
SOME OF IT BAD, SOME OF IT VERY A LOT HAPPENED IT TO.
SOME OF IT BAD, SOME OF IT VERY GOOD.
SOME OF IT BAD, SOME OF IT VERY GOOD.
BUT MOST OF IT WAS THE GOOD.
BUT MOST OF IT WAS THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THESE CITIES BUT MOST OF IT WAS THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THESE CITIES WERE FULL OF POOR PEOPLE AND LOT ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THESE CITIES WERE FULL OF POOR PEOPLE AND LOT OF THINGS HAD TO BE TARGETED WERE FULL OF POOR PEOPLE AND LOT OF THINGS HAD TO BE TARGETED SPECIFICALLY TO THEM.
OF THINGS HAD TO BE TARGETED SPECIFICALLY TO THEM.
THESE SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES HAVE SPECIFICALLY TO THEM.
THESE SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES HAVE GOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IF THEY CATCH THESE SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES HAVE GOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IF THEY CATCH IT NOW THERE MAY STILL BE GOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IF THEY CATCH IT NOW THERE MAY STILL BE CHANCE, I THINK, THEY HAVE IT NOW THERE MAY STILL BE CHANCE, I THINK, THEY HAVE ALREADY WAITED A VERY LONG TIME.
CHANCE, I THINK, THEY HAVE ALREADY WAITED A VERY LONG TIME.
>> I THINK THE GROWTH OF ALREADY WAITED A VERY LONG TIME.
>> I THINK THE GROWTH OF SUBURBAN POVERTY REALLY >> I THINK THE GROWTH OF SUBURBAN POVERTY REALLY ILLUSTRATES THAT THERE'S NO ONE SUBURBAN POVERTY REALLY ILLUSTRATES THAT THERE'S NO ONE AVERAGE POOR FAMILY IN THE ILLUSTRATES THAT THERE'S NO ONE AVERAGE POOR FAMILY IN THE UNITED STATES.
AVERAGE POOR FAMILY IN THE UNITED STATES.
THEY'RE ALL DIVERSE, THEY FACE A UNITED STATES.
THEY'RE ALL DIVERSE, THEY FACE A DIVERSE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEY'RE ALL DIVERSE, THEY FACE A DIVERSE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND HARDSHIPS.
DIVERSE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND HARDSHIPS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT DIVERSITY HARDSHIPS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT DIVERSITY AND BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS NEEDS AND BECAUSE OF THAT DIVERSITY AND BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS NEEDS THAT INDIVIDUALS MAY HAVE, I AND BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS NEEDS THAT INDIVIDUALS MAY HAVE, I BELIEVE THAT THE BEST POVERTY THAT INDIVIDUALS MAY HAVE, I BELIEVE THAT THE BEST POVERTY RELIEF IS THE MOST LOCAL POVERTY BELIEVE THAT THE BEST POVERTY RELIEF IS THE MOST LOCAL POVERTY RELIEF.
RELIEF IS THE MOST LOCAL POVERTY RELIEF.
SO WHILE THERE IS POLITICAL RELIEF.
SO WHILE THERE IS POLITICAL TREASURE FROM THE FEDERAL SO WHILE THERE IS POLITICAL TREASURE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED, TREASURE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED, BETTER TO DEINVOLVE MORE OF THE GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED, BETTER TO DEINVOLVE MORE OF THE PROGRAMS TO MORE LOCAL LEVEL BETTER TO DEINVOLVE MORE OF THE PROGRAMS TO MORE LOCAL LEVEL WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE MORE PROGRAMS TO MORE LOCAL LEVEL WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE MORE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE'S WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE MORE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE'S PERSONAL LIVES.
INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE'S PERSONAL LIVES.
>> WHAT ABOUT JOB CREATION.
PERSONAL LIVES.
>> WHAT ABOUT JOB CREATION.
TO ME THE MESS ANTIDOTE TO OFFER >> WHAT ABOUT JOB CREATION.
TO ME THE MESS ANTIDOTE TO OFFER PE IS JOB CREATION.
TO ME THE MESS ANTIDOTE TO OFFER PE IS JOB CREATION.
DO WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE PE IS JOB CREATION.
DO WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT ARE GETTING JOBS CREATED IN DO WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT ARE GETTING JOBS CREATED IN THE SUBURBS NOW THAT IT SEEMS TO THAT ARE GETTING JOBS CREATED IN THE SUBURBS NOW THAT IT SEEMS TO BE -- THEY ARE NEEDED MORE JUST THE SUBURBS NOW THAT IT SEEMS TO BE -- THEY ARE NEEDED MORE JUST AS MUCH IN THE SUBURBS -- BE -- THEY ARE NEEDED MORE JUST AS MUCH IN THE SUBURBS -- >> THAT'S WHERE JOBS ARE BEING AS MUCH IN THE SUBURBS -- >> THAT'S WHERE JOBS ARE BEING CREATED.
>> THAT'S WHERE JOBS ARE BEING CREATED.
THAT'S THE IRONY.
CREATED.
THAT'S THE IRONY.
IT MOVED TO THE SUBURBS.
THAT'S THE IRONY.
IT MOVED TO THE SUBURBS.
THE JOBS HAVE MOVED TO THE IT MOVED TO THE SUBURBS.
THE JOBS HAVE MOVED TO THE SUBURBS BUT IF YOU DON'T FOCUS THE JOBS HAVE MOVED TO THE SUBURBS BUT IF YOU DON'T FOCUS ON THIS POPULATION THEY WILL SUBURBS BUT IF YOU DON'T FOCUS ON THIS POPULATION THEY WILL MOVE ALL AROUND AND NO ONE PAYS ON THIS POPULATION THEY WILL MOVE ALL AROUND AND NO ONE PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO THEM WHEN IT MOVE ALL AROUND AND NO ONE PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO THEM WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE THAT THEY ANY ATTENTION TO THEM WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET SOME OF THOSE JOBS.
COMES TO MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET SOME OF THOSE JOBS.
>> THIS MAY NOT BE STATISTICAL GET SOME OF THOSE JOBS.
>> THIS MAY NOT BE STATISTICAL POVERTY BUT WE OUGHT TO TRACE >> THIS MAY NOT BE STATISTICAL POVERTY BUT WE OUGHT TO TRACE THIS RIGHT BACK TO THE HOUSING POVERTY BUT WE OUGHT TO TRACE THIS RIGHT BACK TO THE HOUSING BUBBLE.
THIS RIGHT BACK TO THE HOUSING BUBBLE.
PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN PLACES THAT BUBBLE.
PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN PLACES THAT THEY REALLY CAN'T AFFORD.
PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN PLACES THAT THEY REALLY CAN'T AFFORD.
AND THERE HAS BEEN A REAL LACK THEY REALLY CAN'T AFFORD.
AND THERE HAS BEEN A REAL LACK OF MORTGAGE RELIEF PROGRAMS, AND THERE HAS BEEN A REAL LACK OF MORTGAGE RELIEF PROGRAMS, THERE HAS ALSO BEEN, IF YOU OF MORTGAGE RELIEF PROGRAMS, THERE HAS ALSO BEEN, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT A NEW WAVE, THERE HAS ALSO BEEN, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT A NEW WAVE, FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING IN SUBURBS REALLY LOOK AT IT A NEW WAVE, FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING IN SUBURBS WHO MAY HAVE ONE OUT OF TWO, FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING IN SUBURBS WHO MAY HAVE ONE OUT OF TWO, COUPLE ARE UNDER EMPLOYED MAYBE WHO MAY HAVE ONE OUT OF TWO, COUPLE ARE UNDER EMPLOYED MAYBE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR AGING COUPLE ARE UNDER EMPLOYED MAYBE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR AGING PARENTS, TWO KIDS, GARAGE, A SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR AGING PARENTS, TWO KIDS, GARAGE, A MORTGAGE, THIS IS ALL REALLY THE PARENTS, TWO KIDS, GARAGE, A MORTGAGE, THIS IS ALL REALLY THE PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
MORTGAGE, THIS IS ALL REALLY THE PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
FOLKS ARE REALLY SUFFERING UNDER PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
FOLKS ARE REALLY SUFFERING UNDER ALL THIS.
FOLKS ARE REALLY SUFFERING UNDER ALL THIS.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT THERE ALL THIS.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT THERE ARE LACK OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT THERE ARE LACK OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
ARE LACK OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
I'M A BIG FAN OF THOSE.
PARTNERSHIPS.
I'M A BIG FAN OF THOSE.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M A BIG FAN OF THOSE.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY SOLVES AND HELPS THESE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY SOLVES AND HELPS THESE PROBLEMS ONLY WHEN PUBLIC AND REALLY SOLVES AND HELPS THESE PROBLEMS ONLY WHEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR COMES TOGETHER TO PROBLEMS ONLY WHEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR COMES TOGETHER TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE SOLVE LOCALLY.
PRIVATE SECTOR COMES TOGETHER TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE SOLVE LOCALLY.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S SAY, WHAT CAN WE SOLVE LOCALLY.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO BRING THE SUBURBS RIGHT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO BRING THE SUBURBS RIGHT BACK OUT OF WHERE THEY HAVE GOING TO BRING THE SUBURBS RIGHT BACK OUT OF WHERE THEY HAVE GONE.
BACK OUT OF WHERE THEY HAVE GONE.
THE SUBURBS ARE ECONOMICALLY GONE.
THE SUBURBS ARE ECONOMICALLY STABLE.
THE SUBURBS ARE ECONOMICALLY STABLE.
>> VERY GOOD THOUGHTS TO END ON.
STABLE.
>> VERY GOOD THOUGHTS TO END ON.
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