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>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE FOUNDATION.
>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, DO RADICAL FEMINIST GROUP CONTRARY" FIRST, DO RADICAL FEMINIST GROUP TARGETS ISLAM.
FIRST, DO RADICAL FEMINIST GROUP TARGETS ISLAM.
THEN, THE PASSING OF THE IRON TARGETS ISLAM.
THEN, THE PASSING OF THE IRON LADY.
THEN, THE PASSING OF THE IRON LADY.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: FEMALE LADY.
BEHIND THE HEADLINES: FEMALE VETERANS BUILDING SMALL BEHIND THE HEADLINES: FEMALE VETERANS BUILDING SMALL BUSINESSES.
>> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
>> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A >> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.
WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, SEXTREMISM.
PERSPECTIVES.
UP FIRST, SEXTREMISM.
THE GROUP, FEMEN, IS TRYING TO UP FIRST, SEXTREMISM.
THE GROUP, FEMEN, IS TRYING TO ADVANCE RIGHTS FOR ISLAMIC THE GROUP, FEMEN, IS TRYING TO ADVANCE RIGHTS FOR ISLAMIC WOMEN.
ADVANCE RIGHTS FOR ISLAMIC WOMEN.
IT IS RAISING EYEBROWS WOMEN.
IT IS RAISING EYEBROWS WORLDWIDE, AFTER FEMEN'S VIDEO IT IS RAISING EYEBROWS WORLDWIDE, AFTER FEMEN'S VIDEO AND ONLINE PROTESTS AGAINST WORLDWIDE, AFTER FEMEN'S VIDEO AND ONLINE PROTESTS AGAINST MUSLIM COUNTRIES WENT VIRAL.
AND ONLINE PROTESTS AGAINST MUSLIM COUNTRIES WENT VIRAL.
THE GROUP'S MEMBERS PAINT MUSLIM COUNTRIES WENT VIRAL.
THE GROUP'S MEMBERS PAINT MESSAGES ON THEIR CHESTS AND THE GROUP'S MEMBERS PAINT MESSAGES ON THEIR CHESTS AND EXPOSE THEIR BREASTS ONLINE AND MESSAGES ON THEIR CHESTS AND EXPOSE THEIR BREASTS ONLINE AND IN OUTDOOR PROTESTS.
EXPOSE THEIR BREASTS ONLINE AND IN OUTDOOR PROTESTS.
FEMEN RECENTLY DEMONSTRATED TO IN OUTDOOR PROTESTS.
FEMEN RECENTLY DEMONSTRATED TO SHOW SOLIDARITY WITH TUNISIAN FEMEN RECENTLY DEMONSTRATED TO SHOW SOLIDARITY WITH TUNISIAN WOMAN AMINA TYLER---SHE HAD SHOW SOLIDARITY WITH TUNISIAN WOMAN AMINA TYLER---SHE HAD POSTED A FACEBOOK PHOTO BARING WOMAN AMINA TYLER---SHE HAD POSTED A FACEBOOK PHOTO BARING HER OWN BREASTS TO PROTEST POSTED A FACEBOOK PHOTO BARING HER OWN BREASTS TO PROTEST RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION.
HER OWN BREASTS TO PROTEST RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION.
BUT NOW, THE SELF-DESCRIBED RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION.
BUT NOW, THE SELF-DESCRIBED FEMEN MEMBER THINKS THE GROUP BUT NOW, THE SELF-DESCRIBED FEMEN MEMBER THINKS THE GROUP HAS GONE TOO FAR, AFTER MEMBERS FEMEN MEMBER THINKS THE GROUP HAS GONE TOO FAR, AFTER MEMBERS BURNED A MUSLIM FLAG IN FRONT OF HAS GONE TOO FAR, AFTER MEMBERS BURNED A MUSLIM FLAG IN FRONT OF A PARIS MOSQUE.
BURNED A MUSLIM FLAG IN FRONT OF A PARIS MOSQUE.
AND OTHER MUSLIM FEMINISTS ARE A PARIS MOSQUE.
AND OTHER MUSLIM FEMINISTS ARE SPEAKING OUT AND SAYING THESE AND OTHER MUSLIM FEMINISTS ARE SPEAKING OUT AND SAYING THESE PROTESTS DO NOT HELP THEM, SPEAKING OUT AND SAYING THESE PROTESTS DO NOT HELP THEM, BECAUSE NUDITY IS NOT EMPOWERING PROTESTS DO NOT HELP THEM, BECAUSE NUDITY IS NOT EMPOWERING IN ISLAMIC CULTURE.
BECAUSE NUDITY IS NOT EMPOWERING IN ISLAMIC CULTURE.
>> THE PROBLEM WITH THE DIRECT IN ISLAMIC CULTURE.
>> THE PROBLEM WITH THE DIRECT CONFRONTATION IS THAT NOT ONLY >> THE PROBLEM WITH THE DIRECT CONFRONTATION IS THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY RAISE THE IRE OF SOCIAL CONFRONTATION IS THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY RAISE THE IRE OF SOCIAL AND RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES BUT DO THEY RAISE THE IRE OF SOCIAL AND RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES BUT THEY ALSO ALIENATE GRASS ROOTS AND RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES BUT THEY ALSO ALIENATE GRASS ROOTS WOMEN AND EVEN YOUNG WOMEN WHO THEY ALSO ALIENATE GRASS ROOTS WOMEN AND EVEN YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE PUSHING AHEAD TO TRY TO WOMEN AND EVEN YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE PUSHING AHEAD TO TRY TO ACHIEVE POLITICAL, SOCIAL, ARE PUSHING AHEAD TO TRY TO ACHIEVE POLITICAL, SOCIAL, ECONOMIC RIGHTS.
ACHIEVE POLITICAL, SOCIAL, ECONOMIC RIGHTS.
THEY THEMSELVES ARE AGAINST THE ECONOMIC RIGHTS.
THEY THEMSELVES ARE AGAINST THE MOVEMENT.
THEY THEMSELVES ARE AGAINST THE MOVEMENT.
NOW, ABSOLUTELY.
MOVEMENT.
NOW, ABSOLUTELY.
SOME YOUNG WOMEN ARE IN FAVOR NOW, ABSOLUTELY.
SOME YOUNG WOMEN ARE IN FAVOR AND FOR FOR EXAMPLE WHEN AYLA SOME YOUNG WOMEN ARE IN FAVOR AND FOR FOR EXAMPLE WHEN AYLA POSTED NAKED PICTURES OF HERSELF AND FOR FOR EXAMPLE WHEN AYLA POSTED NAKED PICTURES OF HERSELF IN 2011 AFTER SHE GOT TO EGYPT.
POSTED NAKED PICTURES OF HERSELF IN 2011 AFTER SHE GOT TO EGYPT.
WHEN SHE POSTED THOSE PICTURES IN 2011 AFTER SHE GOT TO EGYPT.
WHEN SHE POSTED THOSE PICTURES THERE SOME ARE WOMEN WHO WROTE WHEN SHE POSTED THOSE PICTURES THERE SOME ARE WOMEN WHO WROTE ON HER BLOG POST, YES, THANK YOU THERE SOME ARE WOMEN WHO WROTE ON HER BLOG POST, YES, THANK YOU FOR -- FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
ON HER BLOG POST, YES, THANK YOU FOR -- FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
BUT LARGE NUMBERS OF LIBERALS FOR -- FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
BUT LARGE NUMBERS OF LIBERALS WROTE IN AND SAID, NO, THIS IS BUT LARGE NUMBERS OF LIBERALS WROTE IN AND SAID, NO, THIS IS NOT THE REVOLUTION WE WANT OR WROTE IN AND SAID, NO, THIS IS NOT THE REVOLUTION WE WANT OR NOT THE WAY WE WANT TO ACHIEVE NOT THE REVOLUTION WE WANT OR NOT THE WAY WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THAT REVOLUTION.
NOT THE WAY WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THAT REVOLUTION.
>> CONGRESSWOMAN NORTON, IS THAT REVOLUTION.
>> CONGRESSWOMAN NORTON, IS FEMEN HURTING OR HELPING MUSLIM >> CONGRESSWOMAN NORTON, IS FEMEN HURTING OR HELPING MUSLIM WOMEN?
FEMEN HURTING OR HELPING MUSLIM WOMEN?
>> PERHAPS IT'S HURTING.
WOMEN?
>> PERHAPS IT'S HURTING.
IN THE LONG RUN, BRA BURNING >> PERHAPS IT'S HURTING.
IN THE LONG RUN, BRA BURNING DIDN'T HURT FEMINISM IN AMERICA IN THE LONG RUN, BRA BURNING DIDN'T HURT FEMINISM IN AMERICA AND FEMEN IS -- THAT HAVEN'T DIDN'T HURT FEMINISM IN AMERICA AND FEMEN IS -- THAT HAVEN'T MOVED HARDLY AT ALL.
AND FEMEN IS -- THAT HAVEN'T MOVED HARDLY AT ALL.
>> I DO THINK THAT THE MEDIA MOVED HARDLY AT ALL.
>> I DO THINK THAT THE MEDIA EXPOSURE TO THIS TREATMENT IS >> I DO THINK THAT THE MEDIA EXPOSURE TO THIS TREATMENT IS VERY HELPFUL.
EXPOSURE TO THIS TREATMENT IS VERY HELPFUL.
>> I AGREE.
VERY HELPFUL.
>> I AGREE.
THIS CAN ONLY HELP WHEN YOU'RE >> I AGREE.
THIS CAN ONLY HELP WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOCIAL CHANGE THIS CAN ONLY HELP WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOCIAL CHANGE LIKE THIS, ANYTHING THAT GETS TRYING TO MAKE SOCIAL CHANGE LIKE THIS, ANYTHING THAT GETS ATTENTION TO THE PROBLEM HELPS.
LIKE THIS, ANYTHING THAT GETS ATTENTION TO THE PROBLEM HELPS.
>> I THINK DRAWING ATTENTION TO ATTENTION TO THE PROBLEM HELPS.
>> I THINK DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN THE ARAB >> I THINK DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO.
THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN THE ARAB WORLD IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO.
BUT I QUESTION THE TACTIC, I WORLD IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO.
BUT I QUESTION THE TACTIC, I DON'T KNOW IF TOPPEST PROTESTS BUT I QUESTION THE TACTIC, I DON'T KNOW IF TOPPEST PROTESTS ARE THE BEST STRATEGY.
DON'T KNOW IF TOPPEST PROTESTS ARE THE BEST STRATEGY.
>> NOT ONLY BARING THEIR BREAST ARE THE BEST STRATEGY.
>> NOT ONLY BARING THEIR BREAST BUT BURNING AN ISLAMIC FLAG.
>> NOT ONLY BARING THEIR BREAST BUT BURNING AN ISLAMIC FLAG.
WHY -- OF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO BUT BURNING AN ISLAMIC FLAG.
WHY -- OF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO GET MEDIA ATTENTION BUT IS IT WHY -- OF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO GET MEDIA ATTENTION BUT IS IT STRATEGICALLY THE RIGHT KIND OF GET MEDIA ATTENTION BUT IS IT STRATEGICALLY THE RIGHT KIND OF ATTENTION YOU WANT TO GET OR ARE STRATEGICALLY THE RIGHT KIND OF ATTENTION YOU WANT TO GET OR ARE YOU DOING THIS MAYBE BECAUSE YOU ATTENTION YOU WANT TO GET OR ARE YOU DOING THIS MAYBE BECAUSE YOU SCREAM, AS ELEANOR SAID, ABOUT YOU DOING THIS MAYBE BECAUSE YOU SCREAM, AS ELEANOR SAID, ABOUT THE PROBLEM THEN THE ONE WHO SCREAM, AS ELEANOR SAID, ABOUT THE PROBLEM THEN THE ONE WHO COMES IN BEHIND YOU OR THE ONES THE PROBLEM THEN THE ONE WHO COMES IN BEHIND YOU OR THE ONES WHO COME IN MIND YOU THEN SIT COMES IN BEHIND YOU OR THE ONES WHO COME IN MIND YOU THEN SIT DOWN AND TRY TO CHANGE THE WHO COME IN MIND YOU THEN SIT DOWN AND TRY TO CHANGE THE CULTURE.
DOWN AND TRY TO CHANGE THE CULTURE.
>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
CULTURE.
>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WHEN YOU'RE TRYING HAVING TO A >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WHEN YOU'RE TRYING HAVING TO A SOCIAL CHANGE MOVEMENT, IT'S WHEN YOU'RE TRYING HAVING TO A SOCIAL CHANGE MOVEMENT, IT'S LIKE BIODIVERSITY, ALL OF THE SOCIAL CHANGE MOVEMENT, IT'S LIKE BIODIVERSITY, ALL OF THE ABOVE.
LIKE BIODIVERSITY, ALL OF THE ABOVE.
DIFFERENT ROLES THEY CAN PLAY ABOVE.
DIFFERENT ROLES THEY CAN PLAY BUT THE BOTTOM LINE YOU DIFFERENT ROLES THEY CAN PLAY BUT THE BOTTOM LINE YOU SHOULDN'T CLOSE DOWN ANY OF IT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE YOU SHOULDN'T CLOSE DOWN ANY OF IT, LET IT ALL MOVE ON FORWARD AND SHOULDN'T CLOSE DOWN ANY OF IT, LET IT ALL MOVE ON FORWARD AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND CAN DO THE LET IT ALL MOVE ON FORWARD AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND CAN DO THE GROUND WORK, THE TACTICAL WORK THE PEOPLE BEHIND CAN DO THE GROUND WORK, THE TACTICAL WORK TO MAKE THINGS MOVE FORWARD.
GROUND WORK, THE TACTICAL WORK TO MAKE THINGS MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THE FOLKS IN THE FRONT DOING TO MAKE THINGS MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THE FOLKS IN THE FRONT DOING THE SCREAMING ARE HELPING THE BUT THE FOLKS IN THE FRONT DOING THE SCREAMING ARE HELPING THE MOVEMENT.
THE SCREAMING ARE HELPING THE MOVEMENT.
>> I AGREE THAT PEOPLE'S MINDS MOVEMENT.
>> I AGREE THAT PEOPLE'S MINDS MAY BE CHANGED DIFFERENTLY BUT I >> I AGREE THAT PEOPLE'S MINDS MAY BE CHANGED DIFFERENTLY BUT I THINK YOU'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO MAY BE CHANGED DIFFERENTLY BUT I THINK YOU'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO CHANGE MY MIND BY SITTING DOWN, THINK YOU'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO CHANGE MY MIND BY SITTING DOWN, HAVING A REASONABLE CONVERSATION CHANGE MY MIND BY SITTING DOWN, HAVING A REASONABLE CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF WHAT COULD BE HAVING A REASONABLE CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF WHAT COULD BE OFFENSIVE, IN-YOUR-FACE TACTICS.
INSTEAD OF WHAT COULD BE OFFENSIVE, IN-YOUR-FACE TACTICS.
CHANGING THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF OFFENSIVE, IN-YOUR-FACE TACTICS.
CHANGING THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE PEOPLE WILL HAPPEN BY CHANGING THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE PEOPLE WILL HAPPEN BY SHOWING UP AT THEIR PLACE OF THE PEOPLE WILL HAPPEN BY SHOWING UP AT THEIR PLACE OF WORSHIP, BURNING YOUR FLAG OR SHOWING UP AT THEIR PLACE OF WORSHIP, BURNING YOUR FLAG OR BARING YOUR BREAST.
WORSHIP, BURNING YOUR FLAG OR BARING YOUR BREAST.
>> NOTICE WHAT WE'RE TALKING BARING YOUR BREAST.
>> NOTICE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UKRAINIAN WOMEN.
>> NOTICE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UKRAINIAN WOMEN.
THEY COME FROM DIFFERENT ABOUT, UKRAINIAN WOMEN.
THEY COME FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES THE WAY WHO ARE THEY COME FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES THE WAY WHO ARE AMERICANS AND EUROPEANS DO AND CULTURES THE WAY WHO ARE AMERICANS AND EUROPEANS DO AND I'M NOT -- NOT JUST HAPPENING IN AMERICANS AND EUROPEANS DO AND I'M NOT -- NOT JUST HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE OF E EQUIPMENT SOME I'M NOT -- NOT JUST HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE OF E EQUIPMENT SOME PLACE.
THE MIDDLE OF E EQUIPMENT SOME PLACE.
IT MAY BE FOR THAT COUNTRY WHO PLACE.
IT MAY BE FOR THAT COUNTRY WHO ARE -- EXPOSE MORE TO WESTERN IT MAY BE FOR THAT COUNTRY WHO ARE -- EXPOSE MORE TO WESTERN NOTIONS, MAY BE MORE ALL RIGHT ARE -- EXPOSE MORE TO WESTERN NOTIONS, MAY BE MORE ALL RIGHT WOULD BE SAUDI ARABIA, FOR NOTIONS, MAY BE MORE ALL RIGHT WOULD BE SAUDI ARABIA, FOR GOODNESS SAKES.
WOULD BE SAUDI ARABIA, FOR GOODNESS SAKES.
>> I THINK THAT THEY DID -- THE GOODNESS SAKES.
>> I THINK THAT THEY DID -- THE SHOCK VALUE MIGHT HAVE BEEN >> I THINK THAT THEY DID -- THE SHOCK VALUE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT IN THE UKRAINE.
SHOCK VALUE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT IN THE UKRAINE.
I THINK THEY TOOK IT A STEP TOO IMPORTANT IN THE UKRAINE.
I THINK THEY TOOK IT A STEP TOO FAR WHEN THEY STARTED BURNING I THINK THEY TOOK IT A STEP TOO FAR WHEN THEY STARTED BURNING THE FLAG AND THAT -- THEN IT FAR WHEN THEY STARTED BURNING THE FLAG AND THAT -- THEN IT BECOMES REBELLIOUS.
THE FLAG AND THAT -- THEN IT BECOMES REBELLIOUS.
>> YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE CHEST BECOMES REBELLIOUS.
>> YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE CHEST BARING?
>> YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE CHEST BARING?
>> AGAIN.
BARING?
>> AGAIN.
[ LAUGHTER ] >> AGAIN.
[ LAUGHTER ] IF THAT THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANT [ LAUGHTER ] IF THAT THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANT TO EXPRESSION, WE USED TO BURN IF THAT THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANT TO EXPRESSION, WE USED TO BURN BRAS IN MY GENERATION.
TO EXPRESSION, WE USED TO BURN BRAS IN MY GENERATION.
THEY HAVE UPGRADED THAT.
BRAS IN MY GENERATION.
THEY HAVE UPGRADED THAT.
>> EVERYTHING IS MORE OPEN THESE THEY HAVE UPGRADED THAT.
>> EVERYTHING IS MORE OPEN THESE DAYS.
>> EVERYTHING IS MORE OPEN THESE DAYS.
>> UNDERSCORES THE DIVERSITY OF DAYS.
>> UNDERSCORES THE DIVERSITY OF WOMEN'S VOICES ON THIS ISSUE AND >> UNDERSCORES THE DIVERSITY OF WOMEN'S VOICES ON THIS ISSUE AND OTHER ISSUES.
WOMEN'S VOICES ON THIS ISSUE AND OTHER ISSUES.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE OTHER ISSUES.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE WOMEN'S VOTE OR THE WAY THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE WOMEN'S VOTE OR THE WAY THAT WOMEN FEEL ABOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
WOMEN'S VOTE OR THE WAY THAT WOMEN FEEL ABOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
WOMEN NOT UNITED STATES MAY BE WOMEN FEEL ABOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
WOMEN NOT UNITED STATES MAY BE THE MOST DIVERSE POPULATION OF WOMEN NOT UNITED STATES MAY BE THE MOST DIVERSE POPULATION OF WOMEN IN THE WORLD.
THE MOST DIVERSE POPULATION OF WOMEN IN THE WORLD.
I THINK WE SHOULD CELEBRATE THAT WOMEN IN THE WORLD.
I THINK WE SHOULD CELEBRATE THAT DIFFERENT WOMEN'S GROUPS ARE I THINK WE SHOULD CELEBRATE THAT DIFFERENT WOMEN'S GROUPS ARE COMING TO THE TABLE TO HAVE THE DIFFERENT WOMEN'S GROUPS ARE COMING TO THE TABLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
COMING TO THE TABLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
>> I DO WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
>> I DO WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT HAVING A >> I DO WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION BEING BETTER.
YOU SAID ABOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION BEING BETTER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME -- CONVERSATION BEING BETTER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME -- YOU'VE SPENT TIME IN INDIA BUT I I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME -- YOU'VE SPENT TIME IN INDIA BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU YOU'VE SPENT TIME IN INDIA BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AT DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AT LEAST THOSE ISLAMIC MEN WOULDN'T SPENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AT LEAST THOSE ISLAMIC MEN WOULDN'T SIT DOWN WITH YOU.
LEAST THOSE ISLAMIC MEN WOULDN'T SIT DOWN WITH YOU.
HOW DO YOU -- SIT DOWN WITH YOU.
HOW DO YOU -- >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
HOW DO YOU -- >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
>> HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE WITH >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
>> HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE WITH THEM?
>> HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE WITH THEM?
>> YOU NOTICE SOME OF THE THEM?
>> YOU NOTICE SOME OF THE BACKLASH AGAINST FEMEN HAVE BEEN >> YOU NOTICE SOME OF THE BACKLASH AGAINST FEMEN HAVE BEEN MUSLIM WOMEN WHO WOULD SIT DOWN BACKLASH AGAINST FEMEN HAVE BEEN MUSLIM WOMEN WHO WOULD SIT DOWN TALK ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN MUSLIM WOMEN WHO WOULD SIT DOWN TALK ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
TALK ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF WOMEN IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY, IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY, MANY MUSLIM PEOPLE, WE CAN'T I THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY, MANY MUSLIM PEOPLE, WE CAN'T GROUP PEOPLE TOGETHER BY GENDER MANY MUSLIM PEOPLE, WE CAN'T GROUP PEOPLE TOGETHER BY GENDER OR RELIGION A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GROUP PEOPLE TOGETHER BY GENDER OR RELIGION A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SIT DOWN.
OR RELIGION A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SIT DOWN.
>> MANY ARE -- THEY ARE MUSLIM ARE WILLING TO SIT DOWN.
>> MANY ARE -- THEY ARE MUSLIM WOMEN WHO ARE SLEEPING THROUGH >> MANY ARE -- THEY ARE MUSLIM WOMEN WHO ARE SLEEPING THROUGH THEIR OWN OPPRESSION.
WOMEN WHO ARE SLEEPING THROUGH THEIR OWN OPPRESSION.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO WAKE THEIR OWN OPPRESSION.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO WAKE THEM UP AS MUCH AS THEY WAKE UP I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO WAKE THEM UP AS MUCH AS THEY WAKE UP THE MEN AND THE SOCIETY.
THEM UP AS MUCH AS THEY WAKE UP THE MEN AND THE SOCIETY.
>> REALLY, YOU THINK SO?
THE MEN AND THE SOCIETY.
>> REALLY, YOU THINK SO?
>> I THINK THEY NEED.
>> REALLY, YOU THINK SO?
>> I THINK THEY NEED.
TO.
>> I THINK THEY NEED.
TO.
>> THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF TO.
>> THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF DENIAL.
>> THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF DENIAL.
>> EXACTLY.
DENIAL.
>> EXACTLY.
>> LET'S SAY -- LET US BE FAIR >> EXACTLY.
>> LET'S SAY -- LET US BE FAIR TO SAY THAT WEALTHY ISLAMIC >> LET'S SAY -- LET US BE FAIR TO SAY THAT WEALTHY ISLAMIC WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS HAD ALL THE TO SAY THAT WEALTHY ISLAMIC WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS HAD ALL THE FREEDOMS PRETTY MUCH THAT WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS HAD ALL THE FREEDOMS PRETTY MUCH THAT WESTERN WOMEN HAVE.
FREEDOMS PRETTY MUCH THAT WESTERN WOMEN HAVE.
WHEN THEY'RE WEALTHY AND WESTERN WOMEN HAVE.
WHEN THEY'RE WEALTHY AND EDUCATED AND HAVE CONNECTIONS.
WHEN THEY'RE WEALTHY AND EDUCATED AND HAVE CONNECTIONS.
BUT POOR WOMEN ARE TREATED LIKE EDUCATED AND HAVE CONNECTIONS.
BUT POOR WOMEN ARE TREATED LIKE SEX SLAVES ESSENTIAL LEGAL.
BUT POOR WOMEN ARE TREATED LIKE SEX SLAVES ESSENTIAL LEGAL.
I WAS LISTENING TO THE RADIO, SEX SLAVES ESSENTIAL LEGAL.
I WAS LISTENING TO THE RADIO, AFRICAN ISLAMIC GUY WAS TALKING I WAS LISTENING TO THE RADIO, AFRICAN ISLAMIC GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT A BOOK HE HAD JUST WRITTEN AFRICAN ISLAMIC GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT A BOOK HE HAD JUST WRITTEN BECAUSE IN HIS FAMILY HE WAS ABOUT A BOOK HE HAD JUST WRITTEN BECAUSE IN HIS FAMILY HE WAS RAISED -- HIS FATHER PEAT HIS BECAUSE IN HIS FAMILY HE WAS RAISED -- HIS FATHER PEAT HIS MOTHER HE WAS ALLOWED TO BEAT RAISED -- HIS FATHER PEAT HIS MOTHER HE WAS ALLOWED TO BEAT HIS SISTERS.
MOTHER HE WAS ALLOWED TO BEAT HIS SISTERS.
THEN ONE OF THEM GOT SHIPPED OFF HIS SISTERS.
THEN ONE OF THEM GOT SHIPPED OFF TO IRAN OR AN ARRANGED MARRIAGE.
THEN ONE OF THEM GOT SHIPPED OFF TO IRAN OR AN ARRANGED MARRIAGE.
HER HUSBAND STARTED BEATING HER, TO IRAN OR AN ARRANGED MARRIAGE.
HER HUSBAND STARTED BEATING HER, SHE WANTED A DIVORCE, WHICH OF HER HUSBAND STARTED BEATING HER, SHE WANTED A DIVORCE, WHICH OF COURSE SHAMES THE FAMILY.
SHE WANTED A DIVORCE, WHICH OF COURSE SHAMES THE FAMILY.
HE STOOD UP FORKER THIS -- STOOD COURSE SHAMES THE FAMILY.
HE STOOD UP FORKER THIS -- STOOD UP FOR HER, HE REALIZED THIS IS HE STOOD UP FORKER THIS -- STOOD UP FOR HER, HE REALIZED THIS IS WRONG AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS UP FOR HER, HE REALIZED THIS IS WRONG AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS CULTURE.
WRONG AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS CULTURE.
HOW OFTEN IS THAT THE GOING TO CULTURE.
HOW OFTEN IS THAT THE GOING TO HAPPEN?
HOW OFTEN IS THAT THE GOING TO HAPPEN?
>> IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
HAPPEN?
>> IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
BE IT POLITICS, BE IT RELIGION, >> IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
BE IT POLITICS, BE IT RELIGION, WHERE WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS PLAYED BE IT POLITICS, BE IT RELIGION, WHERE WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS PLAYED THE INFERIOR ROLE.
WHERE WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS PLAYED THE INFERIOR ROLE.
IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF CONTROL THE INFERIOR ROLE.
IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF CONTROL AND AUTHORITY.
IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF CONTROL AND AUTHORITY.
WE SEE IT -- WE SEE IT IN A LOT AND AUTHORITY.
WE SEE IT -- WE SEE IT IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE STILL WE SEE IT -- WE SEE IT IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH.
OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH.
LOT OF RELIGIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, DEALING WITH.
LOT OF RELIGIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, WOMEN CAN'T BE ORDAINED LOT OF RELIGIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, WOMEN CAN'T BE ORDAINED MINISTER.
WOMEN CAN'T BE ORDAINED MINISTER.
GO BACK TO THE BIBLICAL MINISTER.
GO BACK TO THE BIBLICAL REFERENCES.
GO BACK TO THE BIBLICAL REFERENCES.
I DO THINK OFTENTIMES IT'S USED REFERENCES.
I DO THINK OFTENTIMES IT'S USED AS A WAY TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN I DO THINK OFTENTIMES IT'S USED AS A WAY TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN LEVEL OF POWER AND AUTHORITY AS A WAY TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN LEVEL OF POWER AND AUTHORITY OVER THE OTHER GENDER.
LEVEL OF POWER AND AUTHORITY OVER THE OTHER GENDER.
>> EVEN IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, THIS OVER THE OTHER GENDER.
>> EVEN IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, THIS SEXISM, IT'S IN THE GROUNDWATER.
>> EVEN IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, THIS SEXISM, IT'S IN THE GROUNDWATER.
IN THESE COUNTRIES THIS IS WHAT SEXISM, IT'S IN THE GROUNDWATER.
IN THESE COUNTRIES THIS IS WHAT IS NORMAL, PASSES FOR NORMAL.
IN THESE COUNTRIES THIS IS WHAT IS NORMAL, PASSES FOR NORMAL.
>> NORMAL IS -- ALLOWED TO -- IS NORMAL, PASSES FOR NORMAL.
>> NORMAL IS -- ALLOWED TO -- >> THE I THINK THE VALUE OF THE >> NORMAL IS -- ALLOWED TO -- >> THE I THINK THE VALUE OF THE DIVERSITY OF OUTCRY AROUND THIS, >> THE I THINK THE VALUE OF THE DIVERSITY OF OUTCRY AROUND THIS, VALUE THAT IS SAYING, IN DIVERSITY OF OUTCRY AROUND THIS, VALUE THAT IS SAYING, IN SOLIDARITY THERE ARE WOMEN IN VALUE THAT IS SAYING, IN SOLIDARITY THERE ARE WOMEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE SOLIDARITY THERE ARE WOMEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE STANDING UP SAYING WHAT IS GOING OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE STANDING UP SAYING WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT STANDING UP SAYING WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
ON IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
AGAIN, WHAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY ACCEPTABLE.
AGAIN, WHAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY YOU ATTACK ONE WOMAN THIS WAY AGAIN, WHAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY YOU ATTACK ONE WOMAN THIS WAY YOU ATTACK ALL WOMEN THIS WAY.
YOU ATTACK ONE WOMAN THIS WAY YOU ATTACK ALL WOMEN THIS WAY.
IT'S A IMPORTANT TO STAND UP FOR YOU ATTACK ALL WOMEN THIS WAY.
IT'S A IMPORTANT TO STAND UP FOR WOMEN EVERYWHERE.
IT'S A IMPORTANT TO STAND UP FOR WOMEN EVERYWHERE.
>> SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT HERE WOMEN EVERYWHERE.
>> SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT HERE IS, SOME WOMEN IN THE MUSLIM >> SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT HERE IS, SOME WOMEN IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, SPENT TO BE LIBERATED.
IS, SOME WOMEN IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, SPENT TO BE LIBERATED.
THIS IS A SCREAM AGAINST THE WORLD, SPENT TO BE LIBERATED.
THIS IS A SCREAM AGAINST THE FAILURE OF THE ARAB SPRING.
THIS IS A SCREAM AGAINST THE FAILURE OF THE ARAB SPRING.
>> LAST WORD?
FAILURE OF THE ARAB SPRING.
>> LAST WORD?
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO >> LAST WORD?
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEPARATE WHAT ARE HUMAN RIGHTS >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEPARATE WHAT ARE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, NO SHOULD WHO BE BEATEN SEPARATE WHAT ARE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, NO SHOULD WHO BE BEATEN AND ATTACKED AND WHAT ARE ABUSES, NO SHOULD WHO BE BEATEN AND ATTACKED AND WHAT ARE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
AND ATTACKED AND WHAT ARE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
SOME OF THESE DIFFERENCES ARE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
SOME OF THESE DIFFERENCES ARE CULTURAL IF A MUSLIM WOMAN WANTS SOME OF THESE DIFFERENCES ARE CULTURAL IF A MUSLIM WOMAN WANTS TO COVER HER FACE OR COVER HER CULTURAL IF A MUSLIM WOMAN WANTS TO COVER HER FACE OR COVER HER BODY, THAT'S HER EXPRESSION JUST TO COVER HER FACE OR COVER HER BODY, THAT'S HER EXPRESSION JUST LIKE THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION BODY, THAT'S HER EXPRESSION JUST LIKE THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION TO GO TOPLESS, IF YOU WANT TO.
LIKE THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION TO GO TOPLESS, IF YOU WANT TO.
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FROM CONTROVERSIAL PROTESTORS TO A POLARIZING FIGURE, MARGARET FROM CONTROVERSIAL PROTESTORS TO A POLARIZING FIGURE, MARGARET THATCHER.
A POLARIZING FIGURE, MARGARET THATCHER.
>> FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER THATCHER.
>> FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER MARGARET THATCHER PASSED AWAY >> FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER MARGARET THATCHER PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK.
MARGARET THATCHER PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK.
SHE PASSED AWAY AT 87.
THIS WEEK.
SHE PASSED AWAY AT 87.
EVEN IN DEATH THE IRON LADY SHE PASSED AWAY AT 87.
EVEN IN DEATH THE IRON LADY EVOKED STRONG REACTIONS BOTH EVEN IN DEATH THE IRON LADY EVOKED STRONG REACTIONS BOTH TRIBUTES AND CRITICISM.
EVOKED STRONG REACTIONS BOTH TRIBUTES AND CRITICISM.
NO ONE CAN DENY HER TITANIC TRIBUTES AND CRITICISM.
NO ONE CAN DENY HER TITANIC IMPACT TEACHING BRITISH GIRLS NO ONE CAN DENY HER TITANIC IMPACT TEACHING BRITISH GIRLS AND OTHER FEMALE WESTERNERS THEY IMPACT TEACHING BRITISH GIRLS AND OTHER FEMALE WESTERNERS THEY COULD GROW UP TO BE A COUNTRY AND OTHER FEMALE WESTERNERS THEY COULD GROW UP TO BE A COUNTRY LEADER INSTEAD OF A PRINCESS OR COULD GROW UP TO BE A COUNTRY LEADER INSTEAD OF A PRINCESS OR A QUEEN.
LEADER INSTEAD OF A PRINCESS OR A QUEEN.
WHILE SHE CHANGED WOMEN'S A QUEEN.
WHILE SHE CHANGED WOMEN'S HISTORY SHE WAS HARDLY A WHILE SHE CHANGED WOMEN'S HISTORY SHE WAS HARDLY A FEMINIST, AT ONE POINT SAID SHE HISTORY SHE WAS HARDLY A FEMINIST, AT ONE POINT SAID SHE HATED FEMINISM.
FEMINIST, AT ONE POINT SAID SHE HATED FEMINISM.
SHE APPOINTED ONLY ONE FEMALE TO HATED FEMINISM.
SHE APPOINTED ONLY ONE FEMALE TO CABINET-LEVEL POSITION IN ALMOST SHE APPOINTED ONLY ONE FEMALE TO CABINET-LEVEL POSITION IN ALMOST 12 YEARS IN OFFICE.
CABINET-LEVEL POSITION IN ALMOST 12 YEARS IN OFFICE.
AS SOME FEMINISTS NOTE, PULLING 12 YEARS IN OFFICE.
AS SOME FEMINISTS NOTE, PULLING UP THE LADDER BEHIND HER.
AS SOME FEMINISTS NOTE, PULLING UP THE LADDER BEHIND HER.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON MARGARET UP THE LADDER BEHIND HER.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON MARGARET THATCHER.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON MARGARET THATCHER.
>> I THINK SHE'S SOMEONE WORTHY THATCHER.
>> I THINK SHE'S SOMEONE WORTHY OF RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION.
>> I THINK SHE'S SOMEONE WORTHY OF RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION.
SHE DID SHATTER THE GLASS OF RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION.
SHE DID SHATTER THE GLASS CEILING IN ENGLAND THEN THE SHE DID SHATTER THE GLASS CEILING IN ENGLAND THEN THE UNITED KINGDOM.
CEILING IN ENGLAND THEN THE UNITED KINGDOM.
YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE BETWEEN, UNITED KINGDOM.
YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE BETWEEN, NOT THE KING, QUEEN AND PRIMINE YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE BETWEEN, NOT THE KING, QUEEN AND PRIMINE TORE BOTH WOMEN AND THE KIND OF NOT THE KING, QUEEN AND PRIMINE TORE BOTH WOMEN AND THE KIND OF THINGS THAT SHE DID.
TORE BOTH WOMEN AND THE KIND OF THINGS THAT SHE DID.
YOU HAD TO HAVE A CERTAIN THINGS THAT SHE DID.
YOU HAD TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERSONALITY ABOUT YOU.
YOU HAD TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERSONALITY ABOUT YOU.
I ALSO THINK HER HUSBAND IS PERSONALITY ABOUT YOU.
I ALSO THINK HER HUSBAND IS WORTHY OF RECOGNITION, HE'S I ALSO THINK HER HUSBAND IS WORTHY OF RECOGNITION, HE'S PORTRAYED AS SOMEONE WHO WAS WORTHY OF RECOGNITION, HE'S PORTRAYED AS SOMEONE WHO WAS MEEK AND HE WASN'T ANY OF THOSE PORTRAYED AS SOMEONE WHO WAS MEEK AND HE WASN'T ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
MEEK AND HE WASN'T ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
I DO THINK FOR THE TIME AND FOR THINGS.
I DO THINK FOR THE TIME AND FOR THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS SHE MADE I DO THINK FOR THE TIME AND FOR THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS SHE MADE THE FAUKLANDS A LOT OF THE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS SHE MADE THE FAUKLANDS A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT MADE TO PRIVATIZING THE FAUKLANDS A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT MADE TO PRIVATIZING UTILITIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT MADE TO PRIVATIZING UTILITIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
UTILITIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
SHE WAS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AT THINGS.
SHE WAS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AT THE RIGHT TIME.
SHE WAS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AT THE RIGHT TIME.
>> MOST OF THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THE RIGHT TIME.
>> MOST OF THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY >> MOST OF THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY GOOD DESPITE HERSELF WAS A GIFT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY GOOD DESPITE HERSELF WAS A GIFT TO FEMINISM.
GOOD DESPITE HERSELF WAS A GIFT TO FEMINISM.
SHE DID NOTHING FOR WOMEN, WENT TO FEMINISM.
SHE DID NOTHING FOR WOMEN, WENT OUT OF HER WAY, NOT EVEN TO SHE DID NOTHING FOR WOMEN, WENT OUT OF HER WAY, NOT EVEN TO BRING, TALENTED WOMEN IN TO HER OUT OF HER WAY, NOT EVEN TO BRING, TALENTED WOMEN IN TO HER OWN CABINET.
BRING, TALENTED WOMEN IN TO HER OWN CABINET.
BUT BY THE FORCE OF HER OWN CABINET.
BUT BY THE FORCE OF HER PERSONALITY SHE SHOWED US A BUT BY THE FORCE OF HER PERSONALITY SHE SHOWED US A WOMAN WHO IN EVERY SENSE WAS A PERSONALITY SHE SHOWED US A WOMAN WHO IN EVERY SENSE WAS A FEMININE WOMAN BY THE WOMAN WHO IN EVERY SENSE WAS A FEMININE WOMAN BY THE DEFINITION, ANY DEFINITION YOU FEMININE WOMAN BY THE DEFINITION, ANY DEFINITION YOU WANT TO USE WHO HAD THE WILL TO DEFINITION, ANY DEFINITION YOU WANT TO USE WHO HAD THE WILL TO MOVE FORWARD NO MATTER WHAT.
WANT TO USE WHO HAD THE WILL TO MOVE FORWARD NO MATTER WHAT.
IT IS THAT KIND OF WILL WOMEN MOVE FORWARD NO MATTER WHAT.
IT IS THAT KIND OF WILL WOMEN ARE GOING TO NEED IF THEY ARE IT IS THAT KIND OF WILL WOMEN ARE GOING TO NEED IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE LEADERS AT THE TOP ARE GOING TO NEED IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE LEADERS AT THE TOP END OF THIS SOCIETY.
GOING TO BE LEADERS AT THE TOP END OF THIS SOCIETY.
EVEN IN THEIR OWN WORKING PLACE.
END OF THIS SOCIETY.
EVEN IN THEIR OWN WORKING PLACE.
>> SHOULD FEMINISTS BE TAKING EVEN IN THEIR OWN WORKING PLACE.
>> SHOULD FEMINISTS BE TAKING LESSON FROM MARGARET HAMMER'S >> SHOULD FEMINISTS BE TAKING LESSON FROM MARGARET HAMMER'S LIFE.
LESSON FROM MARGARET HAMMER'S LIFE.
>> AS ONE WRITER PUT IT.
LIFE.
>> AS ONE WRITER PUT IT.
SHE COULDN'T SHATTER THE GLASS >> AS ONE WRITER PUT IT.
SHE COULDN'T SHATTER THE GLASS CEILING, WE WENT ON ABOUT HER SHE COULDN'T SHATTER THE GLASS CEILING, WE WENT ON ABOUT HER BUSINESS.
CEILING, WE WENT ON ABOUT HER BUSINESS.
SHE DIDN'T PLAY IDENTITY BUSINESS.
SHE DIDN'T PLAY IDENTITY POLITICS, SOMETHING WE CAN ALL SHE DIDN'T PLAY IDENTITY POLITICS, SOMETHING WE CAN ALL ADMIRE ABOUT HER.
POLITICS, SOMETHING WE CAN ALL ADMIRE ABOUT HER.
SHE NEVER SAID THAT SHE OWED ADMIRE ABOUT HER.
SHE NEVER SAID THAT SHE OWED ANYTHING TO WOMEN'S LIB WHICH OF SHE NEVER SAID THAT SHE OWED ANYTHING TO WOMEN'S LIB WHICH OF COURSE IS A CONTROVERSIAL ANYTHING TO WOMEN'S LIB WHICH OF COURSE IS A CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT.
COURSE IS A CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT.
BUT IN THE END, I'M AFRAID WE STATEMENT.
BUT IN THE END, I'M AFRAID WE RUN THE RISK OF REDUCING HER BUT IN THE END, I'M AFRAID WE RUN THE RISK OF REDUCING HER CONTRIBUTION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RUN THE RISK OF REDUCING HER CONTRIBUTION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HER AS A FEMALE PRIME MINISTER.
CONTRIBUTION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HER AS A FEMALE PRIME MINISTER.
BECAUSE WHAT SHE WAS, WAS THE HER AS A FEMALE PRIME MINISTER.
BECAUSE WHAT SHE WAS, WAS THE BEST PEACE TIME PRIME MINISTER BECAUSE WHAT SHE WAS, WAS THE BEST PEACE TIME PRIME MINISTER MAYBE IN BRITISH HISTORY.
BEST PEACE TIME PRIME MINISTER MAYBE IN BRITISH HISTORY.
NOT JUST THE BEST FEMALE P.M. MAYBE IN BRITISH HISTORY.
NOT JUST THE BEST FEMALE P.M. SHE WAS ONE OF THE BEST.
NOT JUST THE BEST FEMALE P.M. SHE WAS ONE OF THE BEST.
>> GREAT POINT.
SHE WAS ONE OF THE BEST.
>> GREAT POINT.
I THINK HER EVER-LASTING >> GREAT POINT.
I THINK HER EVER-LASTING CONTRIBUTION IS IN FACT THAT SHE I THINK HER EVER-LASTING CONTRIBUTION IS IN FACT THAT SHE SERVED AS A PRIME MINISTER OF CONTRIBUTION IS IN FACT THAT SHE SERVED AS A PRIME MINISTER OF ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATIONS SERVED AS A PRIME MINISTER OF ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATIONS IN THE WORLD.
ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATIONS IN THE WORLD.
WHEN WE TRY TO GET MORE WOMEN IN THE WORLD.
WHEN WE TRY TO GET MORE WOMEN ELECTED, UNITED STATES, 97th WHEN WE TRY TO GET MORE WOMEN ELECTED, UNITED STATES, 97th IN THE WORLD IN THE WOMEN IN ELECTED, UNITED STATES, 97th IN THE WORLD IN THE WOMEN IN ELECTED OFFICE.
IN THE WORLD IN THE WOMEN IN ELECTED OFFICE.
IF BEE SIMPLY HAD MORE WOMEN IN ELECTED OFFICE.
IF BEE SIMPLY HAD MORE WOMEN IN AUTO COMPLECTED OFFICE AT THE IF BEE SIMPLY HAD MORE WOMEN IN AUTO COMPLECTED OFFICE AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF OFFICE THAT AUTO COMPLECTED OFFICE AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF OFFICE THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH IT HIGHEST LEVELS OF OFFICE THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH IT AND PULLS WOMEN ALONG.
CHANGES EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH IT AND PULLS WOMEN ALONG.
WHETHER SHE HAD ARTICULATED GOOD AND PULLS WOMEN ALONG.
WHETHER SHE HAD ARTICULATED GOOD HABITS AROUND PROMOTING OTHER WHETHER SHE HAD ARTICULATED GOOD HABITS AROUND PROMOTING OTHER WOMEN OR NOT, HER IMPACT AND HER HABITS AROUND PROMOTING OTHER WOMEN OR NOT, HER IMPACT AND HER LEGACY IS IRREFUTABLE.
WOMEN OR NOT, HER IMPACT AND HER LEGACY IS IRREFUTABLE.
>> LOOK WHAT SHE DID FOR WOMEN.
LEGACY IS IRREFUTABLE.
>> LOOK WHAT SHE DID FOR WOMEN.
THE IRON LADY WAS HELP.
>> LOOK WHAT SHE DID FOR WOMEN.
THE IRON LADY WAS HELP.
WORKING WITH MIC KELP GORBACHEV.
THE IRON LADY WAS HELP.
WORKING WITH MIC KELP GORBACHEV.
HOW MANY WOMEN BENEFITED.
WORKING WITH MIC KELP GORBACHEV.
HOW MANY WOMEN BENEFITED.
SHE GOT RID OF THE COLD WAR HOW MANY WOMEN BENEFITED.
SHE GOT RID OF THE COLD WAR ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER SHE GOT RID OF THE COLD WAR ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER LEADERS.
ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER LEADERS.
>> THERE HAVE BEEN SINCE HER LEADERS.
>> THERE HAVE BEEN SINCE HER PASSING A LOT OF CRITICISM OF >> THERE HAVE BEEN SINCE HER PASSING A LOT OF CRITICISM OF HER FROM EUROPE, FROM FEMINISTS, PASSING A LOT OF CRITICISM OF HER FROM EUROPE, FROM FEMINISTS, FROM NONFEMINISTS, ET CETERA HER FROM EUROPE, FROM FEMINISTS, FROM NONFEMINISTS, ET CETERA FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HER FROM NONFEMINISTS, ET CETERA FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HER COUNTRY THAT SHE WAS UPSET THAT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HER COUNTRY THAT SHE WAS UPSET THAT SHE BUSTED UNIONS AND DID THINGS COUNTRY THAT SHE WAS UPSET THAT SHE BUSTED UNIONS AND DID THINGS TO CHANGE THE CULTURE.
SHE BUSTED UNIONS AND DID THINGS TO CHANGE THE CULTURE.
OF WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO.
TO CHANGE THE CULTURE.
OF WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO.
YOU NEVER SAW THAT RONALD OF WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO.
YOU NEVER SAW THAT RONALD REAGAN.
YOU NEVER SAW THAT RONALD REAGAN.
YOU NEVER SAW THAT WITH ANY REAGAN.
YOU NEVER SAW THAT WITH ANY NUMBER OF CONSERVATIVE -- MALE YOU NEVER SAW THAT WITH ANY NUMBER OF CONSERVATIVE -- MALE POLITICIANS HERE AND ABROAD.
NUMBER OF CONSERVATIVE -- MALE POLITICIANS HERE AND ABROAD.
>> WHY?
POLITICIANS HERE AND ABROAD.
>> WHY?
>> I TALKED TO A BRITISH FRIEND >> WHY?
>> I TALKED TO A BRITISH FRIEND ABOUT THIS THIS WEEK, HE SAID IN >> I TALKED TO A BRITISH FRIEND ABOUT THIS THIS WEEK, HE SAID IN AMERICA WE HAVE MUCH HIGHER ABOUT THIS THIS WEEK, HE SAID IN AMERICA WE HAVE MUCH HIGHER RESPECT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE AMERICA WE HAVE MUCH HIGHER RESPECT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY THAN BRITISH PEOPLE RESPECT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY THAN BRITISH PEOPLE DO FOR THE OFFICE OF PRIME PRESIDENCY THAN BRITISH PEOPLE DO FOR THE OFFICE OF PRIME MINISTER.
DO FOR THE OFFICE OF PRIME MINISTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT STREET A MINISTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT STREET A CULTURAL DIFFERENCE OR IF IT HAS I DON'T KNOW IF THAT STREET A CULTURAL DIFFERENCE OR IF IT HAS TO DO WITH HER BEING A WOMAN BUT CULTURAL DIFFERENCE OR IF IT HAS TO DO WITH HER BEING A WOMAN BUT IN THE END I THINK WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH HER BEING A WOMAN BUT IN THE END I THINK WOULD HAVE WELCOMED IT.
IN THE END I THINK WOULD HAVE WELCOMED IT.
SHE ALWAYS REAL WOMENNED -- WELCOMED IT.
SHE ALWAYS REAL WOMENNED -- WELCOMED DISAGREEMENT.
SHE ALWAYS REAL WOMENNED -- WELCOMED DISAGREEMENT.
THAT MEANT THEY HADN'T ANY WELCOMED DISAGREEMENT.
THAT MEANT THEY HADN'T ANY POLITICAL ARGUMENTS LEFT IF THEY THAT MEANT THEY HADN'T ANY POLITICAL ARGUMENTS LEFT IF THEY ATTACKED HER PERSONALLY.
POLITICAL ARGUMENTS LEFT IF THEY ATTACKED HER PERSONALLY.
>> IF I COULD, I THINK YOUR ATTACKED HER PERSONALLY.
>> IF I COULD, I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
>> IF I COULD, I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
A MAN IS CALLED A MAN OF POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
A MAN IS CALLED A MAN OF AUTHORITY A WOMAN IS CALLED AN A MAN IS CALLED A MAN OF AUTHORITY A WOMAN IS CALLED AN ICE CREAM.
AUTHORITY A WOMAN IS CALLED AN ICE CREAM.
IT'S IRREFUTABLY SEXIST.
ICE CREAM.
IT'S IRREFUTABLY SEXIST.
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT.
IT'S IRREFUTABLY SEXIST.
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT.
THOSE KIND OF ATTACKS COME RESEARCH SHOWS THAT.
THOSE KIND OF ATTACKS COME WOMEN'S WAY WHEN THEY DON'T COME THOSE KIND OF ATTACKS COME WOMEN'S WAY WHEN THEY DON'T COME MEN'S WAY.
WOMEN'S WAY WHEN THEY DON'T COME MEN'S WAY.
>> SHE'S NOW SEEN IN DEATH AS MEN'S WAY.
>> SHE'S NOW SEEN IN DEATH AS SOMEONE WHO COMPROMISED, SOMEONE >> SHE'S NOW SEEN IN DEATH AS SOMEONE WHO COMPROMISED, SOMEONE WHO WAS A GREAT LEADER AND SOMEONE WHO COMPROMISED, SOMEONE WHO WAS A GREAT LEADER AND LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES.
WHO WAS A GREAT LEADER AND LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES.
THAT WAS NEVER -- LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES.
THAT WAS NEVER -- >> SHE SAID I'M NOT A CONSENSUS THAT WAS NEVER -- >> SHE SAID I'M NOT A CONSENSUS POLITICIAN.
>> SHE SAID I'M NOT A CONSENSUS POLITICIAN.
I'M A PRINCIPLE POLITICIAN.
POLITICIAN.
I'M A PRINCIPLE POLITICIAN.
>> I WOULD NOT HAVE LIVED -- I'M A PRINCIPLE POLITICIAN.
>> I WOULD NOT HAVE LIVED -- >> SHE IS GOING TO BE JUDGED >> I WOULD NOT HAVE LIVED -- >> SHE IS GOING TO BE JUDGED EXACTLY THE WAY SHE WANTED TO BE >> SHE IS GOING TO BE JUDGED EXACTLY THE WAY SHE WANTED TO BE JUDGED.
EXACTLY THE WAY SHE WANTED TO BE JUDGED.
NOT AS A WOMAN BUT AS A PRIME JUDGED.
NOT AS A WOMAN BUT AS A PRIME MINISTER.
NOT AS A WOMAN BUT AS A PRIME MINISTER.
AND IF IT TURNS OUT THE WAY WE MINISTER.
AND IF IT TURNS OUT THE WAY WE JUDGE PRIME MINISTERS SHE IS AND IF IT TURNS OUT THE WAY WE JUDGE PRIME MINISTERS SHE IS GOING TO RANK HI.
JUDGE PRIME MINISTERS SHE IS GOING TO RANK HI.
>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES: FEMALE GOING TO RANK HI.
>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES: FEMALE VETERAN ENTREPRENEURS.
>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES: FEMALE VETERAN ENTREPRENEURS.
THERE ARE MORE WOMEN IN THE VETERAN ENTREPRENEURS.
THERE ARE MORE WOMEN IN THE MILITARY THAN EVER, AND THAT THERE ARE MORE WOMEN IN THE MILITARY THAN EVER, AND THAT MEANS A GROWING NUMBER OF FEMALE MILITARY THAN EVER, AND THAT MEANS A GROWING NUMBER OF FEMALE VETERANS COMING BACK HOME.
MEANS A GROWING NUMBER OF FEMALE VETERANS COMING BACK HOME.
COUNT ME IN, AN ORGANIZATION VETERANS COMING BACK HOME.
COUNT ME IN, AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S SPENT YEARS HELPING WOMEN COUNT ME IN, AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S SPENT YEARS HELPING WOMEN ACHIEVE ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE, THAT'S SPENT YEARS HELPING WOMEN ACHIEVE ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE, HAS LAUNCHED A PROGRAM FOR ACHIEVE ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE, HAS LAUNCHED A PROGRAM FOR FEMALE VETERANS AND MILITARY HAS LAUNCHED A PROGRAM FOR FEMALE VETERANS AND MILITARY SPOUSES.
FEMALE VETERANS AND MILITARY SPOUSES.
>> WE WENT BACK TO THE WOMEN SPOUSES.
>> WE WENT BACK TO THE WOMEN THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH AND SAID >> WE WENT BACK TO THE WOMEN THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH AND SAID "HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH AND SAID "HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
AND MORE THAN ANYTHING WHAT THEY "HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
AND MORE THAN ANYTHING WHAT THEY SAID WAS THERE WAS A REAL NEED AND MORE THAN ANYTHING WHAT THEY SAID WAS THERE WAS A REAL NEED FOR WOMEN VETS AND MILITARY SAID WAS THERE WAS A REAL NEED FOR WOMEN VETS AND MILITARY SPOUSES TO BE CONNECTED WITH THE FOR WOMEN VETS AND MILITARY SPOUSES TO BE CONNECTED WITH THE WIDER WOMEN'S BUSINESS SPOUSES TO BE CONNECTED WITH THE WIDER WOMEN'S BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
WIDER WOMEN'S BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
WE DECIDED TO DO THE WOMEN'S COMMUNITY.
WE DECIDED TO DO THE WOMEN'S VETERAN ENTREPRENEUR WE DECIDED TO DO THE WOMEN'S VETERAN ENTREPRENEUR CORPS TO REALLY REACH OUT TO VETERAN ENTREPRENEUR CORPS TO REALLY REACH OUT TO WOMEN WHO'VE SERVED OUR COUNTRY CORPS TO REALLY REACH OUT TO WOMEN WHO'VE SERVED OUR COUNTRY >> KATRINA LASOME, A 23-YEAR WOMEN WHO'VE SERVED OUR COUNTRY >> KATRINA LASOME, A 23-YEAR VETERAN OF THE ARMY NURSE CORPS, >> KATRINA LASOME, A 23-YEAR VETERAN OF THE ARMY NURSE CORPS, SHE NOW RUNS A HEALTH CONSULTING VETERAN OF THE ARMY NURSE CORPS, SHE NOW RUNS A HEALTH CONSULTING FIRM.
SHE NOW RUNS A HEALTH CONSULTING FIRM.
SHE HOPES THE WOMEN VETERAN FIRM.
SHE HOPES THE WOMEN VETERAN ENTREPRENEUR CORPS WILL HELP HER SHE HOPES THE WOMEN VETERAN ENTREPRENEUR CORPS WILL HELP HER GROW HER COMPANY, ION ENTREPRENEUR CORPS WILL HELP HER GROW HER COMPANY, ION INFORMATICS.
GROW HER COMPANY, ION INFORMATICS.
>> WHAT I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF INFORMATICS.
>> WHAT I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF THAT IS A COUPLE THINGS - THE >> WHAT I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF THAT IS A COUPLE THINGS - THE FIRST WILL BE NETWORKING WITH THAT IS A COUPLE THINGS - THE FIRST WILL BE NETWORKING WITH LIKE COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE COME FIRST WILL BE NETWORKING WITH LIKE COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE COME FROM A SIMILAR BACKGROUND SO LIKE COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE COME FROM A SIMILAR BACKGROUND SO BROADENING OUT MY NETWORK WHEN FROM A SIMILAR BACKGROUND SO BROADENING OUT MY NETWORK WHEN IT COMES TO FEMALE ENTREPRENEURS BROADENING OUT MY NETWORK WHEN IT COMES TO FEMALE ENTREPRENEURS THAT ARE VETS THAT HAVE IT COMES TO FEMALE ENTREPRENEURS THAT ARE VETS THAT HAVE ENCOUNTERED SIMILAR ISSUES OR THAT ARE VETS THAT HAVE ENCOUNTERED SIMILAR ISSUES OR BACKGROUNDS.
ENCOUNTERED SIMILAR ISSUES OR BACKGROUNDS.
I THINK THE OTHER THING IS BACKGROUNDS.
I THINK THE OTHER THING IS LEARNING HOW TO ENGAGE AS A I THINK THE OTHER THING IS LEARNING HOW TO ENGAGE AS A BUSINESS OWNER, PITCH PARTIES, LEARNING HOW TO ENGAGE AS A BUSINESS OWNER, PITCH PARTIES, LEARNING HOW TO MARKET YOURSELF, BUSINESS OWNER, PITCH PARTIES, LEARNING HOW TO MARKET YOURSELF, HOW TO PUBLICLY SPEAK.
LEARNING HOW TO MARKET YOURSELF, HOW TO PUBLICLY SPEAK.
>> LATER THIS MONTH, THE GROUP HOW TO PUBLICLY SPEAK.
>> LATER THIS MONTH, THE GROUP WILL HOLD A COMPETITION, WHERE >> LATER THIS MONTH, THE GROUP WILL HOLD A COMPETITION, WHERE FEMALE VETERANS GET TO PITCH WILL HOLD A COMPETITION, WHERE FEMALE VETERANS GET TO PITCH THEIR BUSINESS IDEAS.
FEMALE VETERANS GET TO PITCH THEIR BUSINESS IDEAS.
THE WINNER IS ENROLLED INTO A THEIR BUSINESS IDEAS.
THE WINNER IS ENROLLED INTO A TRAINING PROGRAM AND RECEIVES A THE WINNER IS ENROLLED INTO A TRAINING PROGRAM AND RECEIVES A THOUSAND DOLLAR PRIZE.
TRAINING PROGRAM AND RECEIVES A THOUSAND DOLLAR PRIZE.
WE CAUGHT UP WITH THEM AT A THOUSAND DOLLAR PRIZE.
WE CAUGHT UP WITH THEM AT A PITCH PARTY.
WE CAUGHT UP WITH THEM AT A PITCH PARTY.
>> THE NAME OF MY ORGANIZATION PITCH PARTY.
>> THE NAME OF MY ORGANIZATION IS WOMEN OF TODAY: WORKING >> THE NAME OF MY ORGANIZATION IS WOMEN OF TODAY: WORKING OPPORTUNITY NETWORK.
IS WOMEN OF TODAY: WORKING OPPORTUNITY NETWORK.
WOT-WON.
OPPORTUNITY NETWORK.
WOT-WON.
>> THE PITCH PARTY IS A PRACTICE WOT-WON.
>> THE PITCH PARTY IS A PRACTICE SESSION FOR VETERANS TO PERFECT >> THE PITCH PARTY IS A PRACTICE SESSION FOR VETERANS TO PERFECT THEIR TWO-MINUTE PITCHES.
SESSION FOR VETERANS TO PERFECT THEIR TWO-MINUTE PITCHES.
>> I WANTED TO TEST OUT MY THEIR TWO-MINUTE PITCHES.
>> I WANTED TO TEST OUT MY SKILLS GET FEEDBACK ABLE TO >> I WANTED TO TEST OUT MY SKILLS GET FEEDBACK ABLE TO CRAFT MY PITCH BETTER.
SKILLS GET FEEDBACK ABLE TO CRAFT MY PITCH BETTER.
>> YOU WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY CRAFT MY PITCH BETTER.
>> YOU WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY WITH INTEGRITY, YOU DON'T WANT >> YOU WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY WITH INTEGRITY, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE NASTY IN IT.
WITH INTEGRITY, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE NASTY IN IT.
YOU WANT TO HAVE INTEGRITY.
TO BE NASTY IN IT.
YOU WANT TO HAVE INTEGRITY.
>> THE LEADERSHIP IN THAT ROOM YOU WANT TO HAVE INTEGRITY.
>> THE LEADERSHIP IN THAT ROOM GAVE US GREAT ADVICE AND GOING >> THE LEADERSHIP IN THAT ROOM GAVE US GREAT ADVICE AND GOING TO THE PITCH PARTY AND LEARNING GAVE US GREAT ADVICE AND GOING TO THE PITCH PARTY AND LEARNING THE PRACTICE THEN TO THE PITCH PARTY AND LEARNING THE PRACTICE THEN DOING THAT TWO MINUTE SPEECH THE PRACTICE THEN DOING THAT TWO MINUTE SPEECH FROM THAT TRAINING I THINK IS DOING THAT TWO MINUTE SPEECH FROM THAT TRAINING I THINK IS GOING TO BE AWESOME.
GOING TO BE AWESOME.
>> COUNT ME IN IS ALREADY >> COUNT ME IN IS ALREADY PLANNING FOR FUTURE EVENTS TO >> COUNT ME IN IS ALREADY PLANNING FOR FUTURE EVENTS TO HELP FEMALE VETERAN PLANNING FOR FUTURE EVENTS TO HELP FEMALE VETERAN ENTREPRENEURS ENTREPRENEURS >> THIS IS THE FIRST EVENT, OUR >> THIS IS THE FIRST EVENT, OUR PLAN IS TO DO THE SECOND >> THIS IS THE FIRST EVENT, OUR PLAN IS TO DO THE SECOND ONE IN TEXAS WHERE THERE'S ALSO PLAN IS TO DO THE SECOND ONE IN TEXAS WHERE THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF VETERANS FAMILIES AND ONE IN TEXAS WHERE THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF VETERANS FAMILIES AND MILITARY BASES AND THEN TO COME A LOT OF VETERANS FAMILIES AND MILITARY BASES AND THEN TO COME BACK TO THE WASHINGTON, DC AREA MILITARY BASES AND THEN TO COME BACK TO THE WASHINGTON, DC AREA THE THIRD YEAR BACK TO THE WASHINGTON, DC AREA THE THIRD YEAR >> MERLINO SAYS THE THIRD YEAR >> MERLINO SAYS THOUGH FEMALE VETERANS FACE >> MERLINO SAYS THOUGH FEMALE VETERANS FACE DISTINCT CHALLENGES, THEY HAVE THOUGH FEMALE VETERANS FACE DISTINCT CHALLENGES, THEY HAVE SPECIAL TRAITS.
DISTINCT CHALLENGES, THEY HAVE SPECIAL TRAITS.
>> WE DID A SURVEY LATE LAST SPECIAL TRAITS.
>> WE DID A SURVEY LATE LAST YEAR OF ABOUT 800 VETERAN WOMEN >> WE DID A SURVEY LATE LAST YEAR OF ABOUT 800 VETERAN WOMEN BUSINESS OWNERS AND WHAT CAME YEAR OF ABOUT 800 VETERAN WOMEN BUSINESS OWNERS AND WHAT CAME THROUGH MORE THAN ANYTHING IS BUSINESS OWNERS AND WHAT CAME THROUGH MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THAT THEY FELT THAT THEIR THROUGH MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THAT THEY FELT THAT THEIR MILITARY TRAINING PREPARED THEM THAT THEY FELT THAT THEIR MILITARY TRAINING PREPARED THEM TO BE ENTREPRENEURS AND THAT MILITARY TRAINING PREPARED THEM TO BE ENTREPRENEURS AND THAT THEY DEMONSTRATED A LEVEL OF TO BE ENTREPRENEURS AND THAT THEY DEMONSTRATED A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY DEMONSTRATED A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT SO MANY WOMEN NEED TO WORK CONFIDENCE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT SO MANY WOMEN NEED TO WORK ON AND THESE WOMEN ALREADY HAVE THAT SO MANY WOMEN NEED TO WORK ON AND THESE WOMEN ALREADY HAVE THAT ON AND THESE WOMEN ALREADY HAVE THAT >> THROUGHOUT YOUR MILITARY THAT >> THROUGHOUT YOUR MILITARY CAREER YOU'RE CONSTANTLY ENGAGED >> THROUGHOUT YOUR MILITARY CAREER YOU'RE CONSTANTLY ENGAGED WITH DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP CAREER YOU'RE CONSTANTLY ENGAGED WITH DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP COURSES THAT HELP YOU TO ANALYZE WITH DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP COURSES THAT HELP YOU TO ANALYZE SITUATIONS QUICK, BE VERY COURSES THAT HELP YOU TO ANALYZE SITUATIONS QUICK, BE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH DECISION MAKING SITUATIONS QUICK, BE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH DECISION MAKING >> MILITARY WOMEN INSIST WHAT COMFORTABLE WITH DECISION MAKING >> MILITARY WOMEN INSIST WHAT THEY NEED MOST TO BECOME >> MILITARY WOMEN INSIST WHAT THEY NEED MOST TO BECOME BUSINESS LEADERS IS TO COUNTER THEY NEED MOST TO BECOME BUSINESS LEADERS IS TO COUNTER FEELING OF ISOLATION.
BUSINESS LEADERS IS TO COUNTER FEELING OF ISOLATION.
>> THE THING THAT WOMEN WANTED FEELING OF ISOLATION.
>> THE THING THAT WOMEN WANTED MORE THAN ANYTHING FROM US IN >> THE THING THAT WOMEN WANTED MORE THAN ANYTHING FROM US IN THIS SURVEY IS THAT THEY WANTED MORE THAN ANYTHING FROM US IN THIS SURVEY IS THAT THEY WANTED TO BE IN A COMMUNITY OF WOMEN THIS SURVEY IS THAT THEY WANTED TO BE IN A COMMUNITY OF WOMEN WHO ALL HAD THE SAME GOAL.
TO BE IN A COMMUNITY OF WOMEN WHO ALL HAD THE SAME GOAL.
>> I'M A LEADER.
WHO ALL HAD THE SAME GOAL.
>> I'M A LEADER.
I WAS TRAINED TO BE A LEADER.
>> I'M A LEADER.
I WAS TRAINED TO BE A LEADER.
AND THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY TO I WAS TRAINED TO BE A LEADER.
AND THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OTHER WOMEN BECOME LEADERS AND THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OTHER WOMEN BECOME LEADERS AS WELL.
HELP OTHER WOMEN BECOME LEADERS AS WELL.
>> SO, SAM BENNETT, HOW DOES AS WELL.
>> SO, SAM BENNETT, HOW DOES BEING IN THE MILITARY, THEY >> SO, SAM BENNETT, HOW DOES BEING IN THE MILITARY, THEY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT IN BEING IN THE MILITARY, THEY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT IN THE PIECE HOW DOES IT TRAIN TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT IN THE PIECE HOW DOES IT TRAIN WOMEN TO BECOME ENTREPRENEURS THE PIECE HOW DOES IT TRAIN WOMEN TO BECOME ENTREPRENEURS WHEN THEY GET OUT?
WOMEN TO BECOME ENTREPRENEURS WHEN THEY GET OUT?
>> HAVING BEEN A SMALL BUSINESS WHEN THEY GET OUT?
>> HAVING BEEN A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER THEN BECAME CORPORATE >> HAVING BEEN A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER THEN BECAME CORPORATE EXECUTIVE AND CAME FROM A OWNER THEN BECAME CORPORATE EXECUTIVE AND CAME FROM A MILITARY FAMILY I WAS AN ROTC EXECUTIVE AND CAME FROM A MILITARY FAMILY I WAS AN ROTC RANGER IN COLLEGE I CAN SPEAK A MILITARY FAMILY I WAS AN ROTC RANGER IN COLLEGE I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THIS.
RANGER IN COLLEGE I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THIS.
I THINK THE MAIN CHALLENGE AS LITTLE BIT TO THIS.
I THINK THE MAIN CHALLENGE AS THEY CITE THIS IDEA OF I THINK THE MAIN CHALLENGE AS THEY CITE THIS IDEA OF CONNECTEDNESS.
THEY CITE THIS IDEA OF CONNECTEDNESS.
IN TRUTH WHEN WOMEN VETS COME CONNECTEDNESS.
IN TRUTH WHEN WOMEN VETS COME OUT OF SERVICE THEY ARE IN TRUTH WHEN WOMEN VETS COME OUT OF SERVICE THEY ARE UNEMPLOYED AT RATES DOUBLE THAT OUT OF SERVICE THEY ARE UNEMPLOYED AT RATES DOUBLE THAT OF MEN.
UNEMPLOYED AT RATES DOUBLE THAT OF MEN.
SEEKING EMPLOYMENT THROUGH OF MEN.
SEEKING EMPLOYMENT THROUGH CREATING YOUR OWN BUSINESS JUST SEEKING EMPLOYMENT THROUGH CREATING YOUR OWN BUSINESS JUST MAKES GOOD SENSE.
CREATING YOUR OWN BUSINESS JUST MAKES GOOD SENSE.
THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE AS MAKES GOOD SENSE.
THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE AS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE THE THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE AS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE THE SAME AS ANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNER SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE THE SAME AS ANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNER FACES.
SAME AS ANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNER FACES.
CASH FLOW FOLLOWED BY CASH FLOW FACES.
CASH FLOW FOLLOWED BY CASH FLOW FOLLOWED BY CASH FLOW.
CASH FLOW FOLLOWED BY CASH FLOW FOLLOWED BY CASH FLOW.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE THERE'S FOLLOWED BY CASH FLOW.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE THERE'S ORGANIZATION THAT IS HELPING GET I'M HAPPY TO SEE THERE'S ORGANIZATION THAT IS HELPING GET THE TRAINING.
ORGANIZATION THAT IS HELPING GET THE TRAINING.
THE FASTEST GROWING SECTOR OF THE TRAINING.
THE FASTEST GROWING SECTOR OF SMALL BUSINESS, PERIODS WOMEN.
THE FASTEST GROWING SECTOR OF SMALL BUSINESS, PERIODS WOMEN.
THESE WOMEN VETS ARE GOING IN TO SMALL BUSINESS, PERIODS WOMEN.
THESE WOMEN VETS ARE GOING IN TO A VERY WELL-DEVELOPED SLIP THESE WOMEN VETS ARE GOING IN TO A VERY WELL-DEVELOPED SLIP SCREEN TO BE SUCCESS.
A VERY WELL-DEVELOPED SLIP SCREEN TO BE SUCCESS.
>> THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT SCREEN TO BE SUCCESS.
>> THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT SMALL BUSINESSES REALLY ARE THE >> THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT SMALL BUSINESSES REALLY ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY.
SMALL BUSINESSES REALLY ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY.
BUT CERTAINLY THE POINT IN THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY.
BUT CERTAINLY THE POINT IN THE ARTICLE AND THE STORY IS THAT BUT CERTAINLY THE POINT IN THE ARTICLE AND THE STORY IS THAT WHEN WE THINK OF VETERANS WE ARTICLE AND THE STORY IS THAT WHEN WE THINK OF VETERANS WE THINK OF MEN.
WHEN WE THINK OF VETERANS WE THINK OF MEN.
WE DON'T REALLY THINK OF WOMEN.
THINK OF MEN.
WE DON'T REALLY THINK OF WOMEN.
WOMEN ARE -- THEY DON'T HAVE WE DON'T REALLY THINK OF WOMEN.
WOMEN ARE -- THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CAPITAL THEY'RE SO FAR WOMEN ARE -- THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CAPITAL THEY'RE SO FAR BEHIND IN THE INFORMATION THAT ACCESS TO CAPITAL THEY'RE SO FAR BEHIND IN THE INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED.
BEHIND IN THE INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED.
THEY HAVE THE DISCIPLINE AND IS NEEDED.
THEY HAVE THE DISCIPLINE AND LEADERSHIP SKILLS, THE TECHNICAL THEY HAVE THE DISCIPLINE AND LEADERSHIP SKILLS, THE TECHNICAL SKILLS.
LEADERSHIP SKILLS, THE TECHNICAL SKILLS.
IT'S A PERFECT COMBINATION.
SKILLS.
IT'S A PERFECT COMBINATION.
>> DO THEY HAVE THE -- THEY ARE IT'S A PERFECT COMBINATION.
>> DO THEY HAVE THE -- THEY ARE TAUGHT TO BE LEADERS, SOMETIMES >> DO THEY HAVE THE -- THEY ARE TAUGHT TO BE LEADERS, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU RUN YOUR OWN BUSINESS, TAUGHT TO BE LEADERS, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU RUN YOUR OWN BUSINESS, MAYBE -- YOU'RE IN WITH A GROUP WHEN YOU RUN YOUR OWN BUSINESS, MAYBE -- YOU'RE IN WITH A GROUP OR PITCHING MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT MAYBE -- YOU'RE IN WITH A GROUP OR PITCHING MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SO OUT FRONT.
OR PITCHING MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SO OUT FRONT.
I DON'T KNOW.
TO BE SO OUT FRONT.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WOMEN IN THE MILITARY, START >> I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WOMEN IN THE MILITARY, START THERE.
WOMEN IN THE MILITARY, START THERE.
TAKES A CERTAIN KIND OF THERE.
TAKES A CERTAIN KIND OF INDEPENDENCE, SEPARATE YOURSELF TAKES A CERTAIN KIND OF INDEPENDENCE, SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM YOUR PEER GROUP WHEN YOU INDEPENDENCE, SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM YOUR PEER GROUP WHEN YOU THINK OF GOING IN TO THE FROM YOUR PEER GROUP WHEN YOU THINK OF GOING IN TO THE MILITARY.
THINK OF GOING IN TO THE MILITARY.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT MILITARY.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THESE WOMEN ARE ESPECIALLY AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THESE WOMEN ARE ESPECIALLY EQUIPPED TO BE BUSINESS LEADERS.
THESE WOMEN ARE ESPECIALLY EQUIPPED TO BE BUSINESS LEADERS.
I THINK THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF EQUIPPED TO BE BUSINESS LEADERS.
I THINK THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE BACKGROUND, PASTED ON MEN I THINK THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE BACKGROUND, PASTED ON MEN FROM THE TIME THEY ARE BOYS.
THE BACKGROUND, PASTED ON MEN FROM THE TIME THEY ARE BOYS.
BUT IF YOU IN FACT GIVE THEM FROM THE TIME THEY ARE BOYS.
BUT IF YOU IN FACT GIVE THEM SKILLS IN SHORT ORDER THEY HAVE BUT IF YOU IN FACT GIVE THEM SKILLS IN SHORT ORDER THEY HAVE VERY SPECIAL SKILLS TO BE SKILLS IN SHORT ORDER THEY HAVE VERY SPECIAL SKILLS TO BE BUSINESS PEOPLE.
VERY SPECIAL SKILLS TO BE BUSINESS PEOPLE.
WHAT WE HAVE TO WONDER I STILL BUSINESS PEOPLE.
WHAT WE HAVE TO WONDER I STILL HAVEN'T -- WHY ARE VETERANS, WHAT WE HAVE TO WONDER I STILL HAVEN'T -- WHY ARE VETERANS, MALE AND FEMALE HAVING SUCH HAVEN'T -- WHY ARE VETERANS, MALE AND FEMALE HAVING SUCH TROUBLE GETTING EMPLOYMENT.
MALE AND FEMALE HAVING SUCH TROUBLE GETTING EMPLOYMENT.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED TROUBLE GETTING EMPLOYMENT.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN A WAY THAT KIDS ARE NOT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN A WAY THAT KIDS ARE NOT TRAINED THE KIND OF DISCIPLINE, IN A WAY THAT KIDS ARE NOT TRAINED THE KIND OF DISCIPLINE, THIS IS A GREAT FAILING OF OUR TRAINED THE KIND OF DISCIPLINE, THIS IS A GREAT FAILING OF OUR SOCIETY.
THIS IS A GREAT FAILING OF OUR SOCIETY.
SEEMS TO BE A NATURAL ROUTE FOR SOCIETY.
SEEMS TO BE A NATURAL ROUTE FOR THEM.
SEEMS TO BE A NATURAL ROUTE FOR THEM.
>> LEADERSHIP ISN'T JUST ABOUT THEM.
>> LEADERSHIP ISN'T JUST ABOUT BEING TOUGH, RIGHT?
>> LEADERSHIP ISN'T JUST ABOUT BEING TOUGH, RIGHT?
IT'S ABOUT GAINING THE TRUST OF BEING TOUGH, RIGHT?
IT'S ABOUT GAINING THE TRUST OF OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR PLATOON, IT'S ABOUT GAINING THE TRUST OF OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR PLATOON, CERTAINLY, IF YOU'RE SERVING IN OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR PLATOON, CERTAINLY, IF YOU'RE SERVING IN IRAQ OR AVERAGE ANYWHERE AROUND CERTAINLY, IF YOU'RE SERVING IN IRAQ OR AVERAGE ANYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD THAT WOULD BE PART OF IRAQ OR AVERAGE ANYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR TRAINING THAT IS THE WORLD THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR TRAINING THAT IS TRANSFERABLE TO BUSINESS AS YOUR TRAINING THAT IS TRANSFERABLE TO BUSINESS AS WELL.
TRANSFERABLE TO BUSINESS AS WELL.
GAIN PEOPLE'S TRUST TO BE ABLE WELL.
GAIN PEOPLE'S TRUST TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE DEALS.
GAIN PEOPLE'S TRUST TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE DEALS.
I AM FILLED WITH PRIDE WATCHING TO DO THOSE DEALS.
I AM FILLED WITH PRIDE WATCHING THIS SEGMENT SEEING THESE WOMEN, I AM FILLED WITH PRIDE WATCHING THIS SEGMENT SEEING THESE WOMEN, THE PRIVATE SECTOR PROGRAM, IT'S THIS SEGMENT SEEING THESE WOMEN, THE PRIVATE SECTOR PROGRAM, IT'S WOMEN WOMEN HELPING PEOPLE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR PROGRAM, IT'S WOMEN WOMEN HELPING PEOPLE, 30,000 -- WE NEED THEM AS SAM WOMEN WOMEN HELPING PEOPLE, 30,000 -- WE NEED THEM AS SAM MENTIONED, LARGER PERCENTAGE OF 30,000 -- WE NEED THEM AS SAM MENTIONED, LARGER PERCENTAGE OF START-UP, RUN BY WOMEN BUT MENTIONED, LARGER PERCENTAGE OF START-UP, RUN BY WOMEN BUT OVERALL THE NUMBERS OF JOBS START-UP, RUN BY WOMEN BUT OVERALL THE NUMBERS OF JOBS CREATED HAS NOT RECOVERED FROM OVERALL THE NUMBERS OF JOBS CREATED HAS NOT RECOVERED FROM THE RECESSION.
CREATED HAS NOT RECOVERED FROM THE RECESSION.
>> MAYBE ANOTHER FINAL REALITY THE RECESSION.
>> MAYBE ANOTHER FINAL REALITY CHECK HERE TO BE A SUCCESSFUL >> MAYBE ANOTHER FINAL REALITY CHECK HERE TO BE A SUCCESSFUL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER YOU HAVE TO CHECK HERE TO BE A SUCCESSFUL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH LEVELS OF RISK.
BE ABLE TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH LEVELS OF RISK.
THAT'S SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT WITH LEVELS OF RISK.
THAT'S SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTIC IN A SUCCESSFUL THAT'S SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTIC IN A SUCCESSFUL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
CHARACTERISTIC IN A SUCCESSFUL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
SOMEONE THAT GOES IN TO THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
SOMEONE THAT GOES IN TO THE MILITARY I DON'T THINK BY NATURE SOMEONE THAT GOES IN TO THE MILITARY I DON'T THINK BY NATURE IS NATURALLY A RISK TAKER.
MILITARY I DON'T THINK BY NATURE IS NATURALLY A RISK TAKER.
I THINK TO THE OPPOSITE.
IS NATURALLY A RISK TAKER.
I THINK TO THE OPPOSITE.
I THINK THAT THESE WOMEN I THINK TO THE OPPOSITE.
I THINK THAT THESE WOMEN VETERANS MAY OR MAY NOT BE -- I THINK THAT THESE WOMEN VETERANS MAY OR MAY NOT BE -- ESPECIALLY SUITED FOR SMALL VETERANS MAY OR MAY NOT BE -- ESPECIALLY SUITED FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
ESPECIALLY SUITED FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
>> I THINK THERE IS -- BUSINESS.
>> I THINK THERE IS -- >> BUT THE -- >> I THINK THERE IS -- >> BUT THE -- >> NO, NO.
>> BUT THE -- >> NO, NO.
IF YOU GO -- I COME FROM A >> NO, NO.
IF YOU GO -- I COME FROM A MILITARY FAMILY MY DAD WAS IF YOU GO -- I COME FROM A MILITARY FAMILY MY DAD WAS MARINE OFFICER, MY U.N. SELL A MILITARY FAMILY MY DAD WAS MARINE OFFICER, MY U.N. SELL A NAVAL COMMANDER.
MARINE OFFICER, MY U.N. SELL A NAVAL COMMANDER.
THE PERSON THAT GOES IN TO THE NAVAL COMMANDER.
THE PERSON THAT GOES IN TO THE MILITARY, WE TALK ABOUT RISK THE PERSON THAT GOES IN TO THE MILITARY, WE TALK ABOUT RISK TAKING, SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE IS MILITARY, WE TALK ABOUT RISK TAKING, SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR A STEADY PROMOTION, TAKING, SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR A STEADY PROMOTION, IT'S A VERY -- IT'S A STRUCTURED LOOKING FOR A STEADY PROMOTION, IT'S A VERY -- IT'S A STRUCTURED SITUATION.
IT'S A VERY -- IT'S A STRUCTURED SITUATION.
HOLD ON LET ME FINISH.
SITUATION.
HOLD ON LET ME FINISH.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THESE WOMEN HOLD ON LET ME FINISH.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THESE WOMEN VETERANS ARE NO LESS CAPABLE AND BUT THAT BEING SAID, THESE WOMEN VETERANS ARE NO LESS CAPABLE AND NO LESS PREPARED BUT THEY DON'T VETERANS ARE NO LESS CAPABLE AND NO LESS PREPARED BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A NATURAL OR IMPLICIT LEG NO LESS PREPARED BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A NATURAL OR IMPLICIT LEG UP IN BUSINESS.
HAVE A NATURAL OR IMPLICIT LEG UP IN BUSINESS.
THEY HAVE TO WORK JUST ALLS HARD UP IN BUSINESS.
THEY HAVE TO WORK JUST ALLS HARD AS ANYONE ELSE GOING IN TO THEY HAVE TO WORK JUST ALLS HARD AS ANYONE ELSE GOING IN TO BUSINESS.
AS ANYONE ELSE GOING IN TO BUSINESS.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE BUSINESS.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THESE ARE NOT CAREER MILITARY.
SAYING.
THESE ARE NOT CAREER MILITARY.
THESER ENLISTED WOMEN WHO HAVE THESE ARE NOT CAREER MILITARY.
THESER ENLISTED WOMEN WHO HAVE THE GUTS TO GO IN TO THE THESER ENLISTED WOMEN WHO HAVE THE GUTS TO GO IN TO THE MILITARY AND -- THE GUTS TO GO IN TO THE MILITARY AND -- >> OR THE ECONOMIC NEED QUITE MILITARY AND -- >> OR THE ECONOMIC NEED QUITE FRANKLY.
>> OR THE ECONOMIC NEED QUITE FRANKLY.
>> A LOT OF WOMEN HAVE ECONOMIC FRANKLY.
>> A LOT OF WOMEN HAVE ECONOMIC NEED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SIGN >> A LOT OF WOMEN HAVE ECONOMIC NEED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SIGN UP TO GO IN TO A SHOOTING WAR.
NEED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SIGN UP TO GO IN TO A SHOOTING WAR.
AND WHEN ENTER THE MILITARY, UP TO GO IN TO A SHOOTING WAR.
AND WHEN ENTER THE MILITARY, THAT'S WHAT YOU RISK.
AND WHEN ENTER THE MILITARY, THAT'S WHAT YOU RISK.
THAT IS WHY MORE OF THEM ARE THAT'S WHAT YOU RISK.
THAT IS WHY MORE OF THEM ARE COMING HOME IN BODY BAGS.
THAT IS WHY MORE OF THEM ARE COMING HOME IN BODY BAGS.
I THINK IN TERMS OF RISK, THERE COMING HOME IN BODY BAGS.
I THINK IN TERMS OF RISK, THERE IS A TOP OF THE LIST WHEN IT I THINK IN TERMS OF RISK, THERE IS A TOP OF THE LIST WHEN IT COMES CERTAINLY TO WOMEN.
IS A TOP OF THE LIST WHEN IT COMES CERTAINLY TO WOMEN.
>> WHY DO YOU -- JUST AS FORMER COMES CERTAINLY TO WOMEN.
>> WHY DO YOU -- JUST AS FORMER OOEC CHAIR, WE HAVE TWO OF YOU >> WHY DO YOU -- JUST AS FORMER OOEC CHAIR, WE HAVE TWO OF YOU ON THE PANEL, WHY DO THEY FEEL OOEC CHAIR, WE HAVE TWO OF YOU ON THE PANEL, WHY DO THEY FEEL ISOLATED?
ON THE PANEL, WHY DO THEY FEEL ISOLATED?
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL VERY FEW ISOLATED?
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL VERY FEW WOMEN HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL VERY FEW WOMEN HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE SAME EXPERIENCE, THEY ARE LIVING WOMEN HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE SAME EXPERIENCE, THEY ARE LIVING THROUGH.
SAME EXPERIENCE, THEY ARE LIVING THROUGH.
SECONDLY WE KNOW A LOT OF SEXISM THROUGH.
SECONDLY WE KNOW A LOT OF SEXISM IN THE MILITARY.
SECONDLY WE KNOW A LOT OF SEXISM IN THE MILITARY.
NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO RISK IN THE MILITARY.
NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO RISK YOUR LIVES ALL THAT BUT WE READ NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO RISK YOUR LIVES ALL THAT BUT WE READ IN THE PAPERS ALL THE TIME ABOUT YOUR LIVES ALL THAT BUT WE READ IN THE PAPERS ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE THREAT OF RAPE AND ALL OTHER IN THE PAPERS ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE THREAT OF RAPE AND ALL OTHER KINDS.
THE THREAT OF RAPE AND ALL OTHER KINDS.
>> I'M GLAD THAT THIS PROGRAM KINDS.
>> I'M GLAD THAT THIS PROGRAM REACHES OUT TO MILITARY SPOUSES >> I'M GLAD THAT THIS PROGRAM REACHES OUT TO MILITARY SPOUSES THEY TAKE ON GREAT DEAL OF REACHES OUT TO MILITARY SPOUSES THEY TAKE ON GREAT DEAL OF SACRIFICE PUTTING THEIR HUSBANDS THEY TAKE ON GREAT DEAL OF SACRIFICE PUTTING THEIR HUSBANDS OR WIVES IN HARM'S WAY.
SACRIFICE PUTTING THEIR HUSBANDS OR WIVES IN HARM'S WAY.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT PART OF THE OR WIVES IN HARM'S WAY.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM.
ULTIMATELY WE OWE THEM A HUGE PROGRAM.
ULTIMATELY WE OWE THEM A HUGE DEBT OF GRATITUDE.
ULTIMATELY WE OWE THEM A HUGE DEBT OF GRATITUDE.
>> TERRIFIC.
DEBT OF GRATITUDE.
>> TERRIFIC.
WE OWE ALL OF YOU A HUGE DEBT OF >> TERRIFIC.
WE OWE ALL OF YOU A HUGE DEBT OF GRATITUDE, TOO.
WE OWE ALL OF YOU A HUGE DEBT OF GRATITUDE, TOO.
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